racquets passing over the net

[Intr3pid]

hi

I was wondering if racquets can pass a bit over the net. Because sometimes my drives requires me to move my racquet realy fast and sometimes it goes a wee bit over the net ( not touching it of course )

[tbone]

hi

I was wondering if racquets can pass a bit over the net. Because sometimes my drives requires me to move my racquet realy fast and sometimes it goes a wee bit over the net ( not touching it of course )

Yes you can do this! As long as you hit the bird on your side of the net and the racket passes over the net as part the motion, there is no problem!:D

[w3wmfhe]

i do believe anytime if ur racquet pass over the net..it is fault

[__Lam]

uhh yeah thats what i thought, isnt it a fault? its called.. a reach?

[smash_master]

i do believe anytime if ur racquet pass over the net..it is fault

nope, tbone is corect, as long as you make contact on your side of the net then cross over its ok but if your racquet touches the net then its a fault or if you dont make contact on your side of the net its a fault.

[DinkAlot]

nope, tbone is corect, as long as you make contact on your side of the net then cross over its ok but if your racquet touches the net then its a fault or if you dont make contact on your side of the net its a fault.

So to clarify:

1) OK if I make contact with the shuttle on my side and the racket crosses the net.

2) Not OK if I make contact with the shuttle on my side and the racket hits the net.

Can this be said: any time during the point, if you touch the net, you lose that point.

[DSAS6]

So to clarify:

1) OK if I make contact with the shuttle on my side and the racket crosses the net.

2) Not OK if I make contact with the shuttle on my side and the racket hits the net.

Can this be said: any time during the point, if you touch the net, you lose that point.

1) correct but dont try and pass it too much now lol
2) correct and ... correct, dont touch net. :D

[__Lam]

ok so if contact with shuttle is made on my side but i hit it and my entire arm is on the other side, its legal?

[Neil Nicholls]

ok so if contact with shuttle is made on my side but i hit it and my entire arm is on the other side, its legal?
No
only the racquet may pass over the net as part of your follow through
No part of you body is allowed to pass over the net
(under and around the net are different matters)

[DinkAlot]

(under and around the net are different matters)

What's the rulling about body parts passing under the net and around the net?

[OniMenoKyo]

13. Faults
It is a 'fault':

13.4 if, in play, a player:
13.4.2 invades an opponent's court over the net with the racket or person except as permitted in Law 13.3;

13.3 if, when in play, the initial point of contact with the shuttle is not on the striker's side of the net. (The striker may, however, follow the shuttle over the net with the racket in the course of a stroke);

So yes, it is ok to physically reach over under certain conditions.

Edit: Forgot to address under and around the net.

13.4.3 invades an opponent's court under the net with racket or person such that an opponent is obstructed or distracted;

As for around the net, the poles are usually located well outside the court so that it makes it nearly impossible to reach around...

[scchang]

Rule 13 Faults
Rule 13.4.3 Invade an opponent's court under the net with racket or person such that an opponent is obstructed or distracted.

Therefore, as long as the opponent is not obstructed or distracted, the player is entitled to pass under the net.

-SC

What's the rulling about body parts passing under the net and around the net?

[DinkAlot]

Rule 13 Faults
Rule 13.4.3 Invade an opponent's court under the net with racket or person such that an opponent is obstructed or distracted.

Therefore, as long as the opponent is not obstructed or distracted, the player is entitled to pass under the net.

-SC

OK, thanks. :D :D :D

[Neil Nicholls]

As for around the net, the poles are usually located well outside the court so that it makes it nearly impossible to reach around...

around the net rarely happens.
it is most likely to be when a players has to run from the back of the court to the front very quickly and cannot stop before touching the net, so their whole body continues forward and goes around the post

I remember Ha Tae Kwon doing this in a match between KDM/HTK and Candra/Sigit. Candra playfully aimed a kick at Ha's backside as he was returning to his own side of the net

[DinkAlot]

I remember Ha Tae Kwon doing this in a match between KDM/HTK and Candra/Sigit. Candra playfully aimed a kick at Ha's backside as he was returning to his own side of the net

LOL! This must have been a sight to see! :D

[Nephrus]

I remember Ha Tae Kwon doing this in a match between KDM/HTK and Candra/Sigit. Candra playfully aimed a kick at Ha's backside as he was returning to his own side of the net


OMG when was this match i must add it to my collection !

[charzord]

hi

I was wondering if racquets can pass a bit over the net. Because sometimes my drives requires me to move my racquet realy fast and sometimes it goes a wee bit over the net ( not touching it of course )

I FOUND THE AMAZING THREAD WITH PICTURES!!!!1 *pats myself on my back* Check out this thread with amazing pictures by Gollum. Perfect answer to your question.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23489&highlight=plane+net

[Loh]

No
only the racquet may pass over the net as part of your follow through
No part of you body is allowed to pass over the net
(under and around the net are different matters)

I have some doubts about this as the hand holding the racket should presumably form part of the racket. On a practical note, I just wonder how an entire arm can cross over without it, or other body parts, touching the net. Even if this is the case, the striker would certainly be disadvantaged somewhat in that he will be slowed down in returning to 'base' position and hitting a return shot.

Quote:

As for around the net, the poles are usually located well outside the court so that it makes it nearly impossible to reach around...

Not true for official events. The poles should be planted on the doubles line on each side. I suppose one reason for this is that if the poles are set apart otherwise, there will be a distortion to the height at the ends and in the centre of the net.

In this connection you may be interested to know that if the shuttle is hit from outside the striker's court and it travels around (or outside) the net post (not over the net) and lands on the opponent's court, it is a legal shot and a winning point if the opponent does nothing about it. :)

[Neil Nicholls]

OMG when was this match i must add it to my collection !
It might have been the All England 2002 Semi-Final
I'll try to remember to check tonight, unless someone else can confirm it before then.

[Neil Nicholls]

the hand holding the racket should presumably form part of the racket.
Why would you presume that?
If you want to consider the hand is part of the racquet, then I will say you have an illegal racquet under Law 4.3 :p

[Loh]

13. Faults

As for around the net, the poles are usually located well outside the court so that it makes it nearly impossible to reach around...

Just to followup on my earlier remarks on this rule, please refer to Law 1.5 on Court and Court Equipment which says:

"The posts shall be placed on the doubles side lines as in Diagram A irrespective of whether singles or doubles is being played."

[Loh]

Why would you presume that?
If you want to consider the hand is part of the racquet, then I will say you have an illegal racquet under Law 4.3 :p

I referred to Law 4.3 but found no direct mention of the arm as it relates to the racket.

But I think on another matter, if the opponent's shuttle touches your racket, then it is a fault against you as the racket then forms part of your body (Law 13.2.5). It is this example which prompted me to say that since the arm is part of the body and the racket in this example also forms part of the body, therefore arm and racket are synonymous (faulty argument? :D ).

However, I have to admit that if in the unlikely situation the striker allows his racket holding arm to extend way beyond the normal cross over the net as a follow through action, this may tantamount to 'invading the opponent's court over the net', which is a fault under Law 13.4.2.

On account of Law 13.4.2, I tend to agree with you on hindsight that the example given by Lam is a fault, especially if the striker was aggressive and thoroughly pumped up in his action. How the umpire perceives the situation has a bearing on his judgement. ;)