China Open 2005 Quarter-Final

[hcyong]

The official website said 15-6, 15-8, but never mind. It's a thrashing either way.


I believe the correct score in the Eriksen/Schjoldager bt Xie/Zhang is 15/5 15/9

Regards
Johansen
www.badminton-nyt.dk (http://www.badminton-nyt.dk)




XD
Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting bt Widianto/Natsir 15-9, 17-15
Robertson/Emms bt Clark/Kellogg 15-8, 15-5
Eriksen/Schjoldager bt Xie/Zhang 15-6, 15-8
Lee/Lee bt Shirley/Runesten-Petersen 13-15, 15-4, 15-4

[Brave_Turtle]

They will lose the no 1 spot by mid of next mth after the points from last year's Singapore and Indo Open are erased, since Lee/Lee has performed better than them. Note that this tournamant will be the last in 2005.

Look at Jens Eriksen...he's 30++ yet still going on strong in both MD and XD. In fact, his performances in the past two years are improving!

I think Flandy/Yunita will be a good pairing (as we have seen in the Sudirman Cup -- they took a set from Zhang/Gao)Flandy/Eng Hian's continued presence in the MD will only hinder the progress of another upcoming MD pair (Hendra Gunawan/Joko Riyadi).

I will give Candra/Sigit a maximum of 1 more year (with next year's All England, WC, Thomas Cup, and Asian Games their outmost priority). Then, I think Candra will go to the US, while Sigit could perhaps be paired with Butet. This partnership will be very explosive and Sigit could probably stay for another 3 years to fulfil his ambition of an Olympic medal.

I hope PBSI's official do read the forum and think wisely in preparation for the Olympics in Beijing.

My preferred team for the Olympics:
MD:
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan -- at that time, should be Indo's no 1 pair (both will be 24 and very much at their prime)
Hendra Gunawan/Joko Riyadi -- has the potential to be Indo's no 2 pair (they will be 26/23 respectively)
Luluk Hadiyanto/Alven Yulianto -- last chance to get a medal from Olympics (they will be 29/28 respectively...more or less similar to Flandy/Eng Hian's situation last year)

XD:
Sigit Budiarto/Lilyana Natsir -- they will be 33/23 respectively....not that old for Sigit and could be the favorites for gold
Flandy Limpele or Eng Hian/Yunita Tetty -- they will be 34 or 31/27 respectively
Muhd Rizal/Endang Nur Sugianti -- they will be 22/25 respectively

Nice analysis, I really like to read these kind of stuff :p

Anyone can tell me if cctv5 will show the games?

[taufik-ist]

They will lose the no 1 spot by mid of next mth after the points from last year's Singapore and Indo Open are erased, since Lee/Lee has performed better than them. Note that this tournamant will be the last in 2005.

Look at Jens Eriksen...he's 30++ yet still going on strong in both MD and XD. In fact, his performances in the past two years are improving!

I think Flandy/Yunita will be a good pairing (as we have seen in the Sudirman Cup -- they took a set from Zhang/Gao)Flandy/Eng Hian's continued presence in the MD will only hinder the progress of another upcoming MD pair (Hendra Gunawan/Joko Riyadi).

I will give Candra/Sigit a maximum of 1 more year (with next year's All England, WC, Thomas Cup, and Asian Games their outmost priority). Then, I think Candra will go to the US, while Sigit could perhaps be paired with Butet. This partnership will be very explosive and Sigit could probably stay for another 3 years to fulfil his ambition of an Olympic medal.

I hope PBSI's official do read the forum and think wisely in preparation for the Olympics in Beijing.

My preferred team for the Olympics:
MD:
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan -- at that time, should be Indo's no 1 pair (both will be 24 and very much at their prime)
Hendra Gunawan/Joko Riyadi -- has the potential to be Indo's no 2 pair (they will be 26/23 respectively)
Luluk Hadiyanto/Alven Yulianto -- last chance to get a medal from Olympics (they will be 29/28 respectively...more or less similar to Flandy/Eng Hian's situation last year)

XD:
Sigit Budiarto/Lilyana Natsir -- they will be 33/23 respectively....not that old for Sigit and could be the favorites for gold
Flandy Limpele or Eng Hian/Yunita Tetty -- they will be 34 or 31/27 respectively
Muhd Rizal/Endang Nur Sugianti -- they will be 22/25 respectively

but the danes pairs are inconsistent now, and Jens Eriksen is too old, he's 36 old years... next year, he may not be able to compete again :D

hey.. badmania, you're like indon badminton journalist :).. you know alot about indons players :D

[event]

but no live webcast. if there is, i will definitely stay up...GDTV (http://www.gdtv.com.cn/newpage/sports/ttdb.asp) says they're coming back on at 19:25. CCTV-5 coverage (http://www.cctv.com/sports/schedule/01/index.shtml) starts at 22:00 but they will likely choose China's best wins of the day.

[hcpoirot]

but zheng bo is not good in md,

in china team, if a pair is not good in md, they change to play xd and become succesfull, i wonder why ?

example: zhan jun/zhan wei was the worst cina md ever :D, after zhan jun change to play xd he become successfull :D

I agree with you. Another examples : Liu Yong who pair with Ge Fei was once number 1 XD also. And not to forget, Chen Qi Qiu who pair with Zhao Ting Ting. He was asp once MD player.

BTW,where is he? Retired already? Cause since Hong Kong Open, Zhao Ting Ting already pair with Zheng Bo. And Zheng Bo is better MD players than Zhang Jun, Liu Yong or Chen Qi Qiu.

[**KZ**]

I agree with you. Another examples : Liu Yong who pair with Ge Fei was once number 1 XD also. And not to forget, Chen Qi Qiu who pair with Zhao Ting Ting. He was asp once MD player.

BTW,where is he? Retired already? Cause since Hong Kong Open, Zhao Ting Ting already pair with Zheng Bo. And Zheng Bo is better MD players than Zhang Jun, Liu Yong or Chen Qi Qiu.


yup....i heard QQ retired.
i think he's only 20+

[taufik-ist]

I agree with you. Another examples : Liu Yong who pair with Ge Fei was once number 1 XD also. And not to forget, Chen Qi Qiu who pair with Zhao Ting Ting. He was asp once MD player.

BTW,where is he? Retired already? Cause since Hong Kong Open, Zhao Ting Ting already pair with Zheng Bo. And Zheng Bo is better MD players than Zhang Jun, Liu Yong or Chen Qi Qiu.

chen qi qiu is just retired... zhang jun is very good at smashing.. much better than zheng bo

[taufik-ist]

yup....i heard QQ retired.
i think he's only 20+

he's 27 , he was born in 1978

[event]

they ALWAYS have difficulties in beating the really top pairs in XD like Lee/Lee, Robertson/Emms, Zhang/Gao and previously Chen/Zhao.This is true. I would love to see them become more consistent. With the exception of Lee/Lee, it seems to be the more experienced pairs that give them trouble.
Nova is once again the weak link in the partnership.You watched today's match? Lilyana seemed to be making mistakes and wasn't strong on defense. Nova was holding it together with brilliant flat returns of smashes and great deception, good net attacking. All the attacks were directed at Lilyana and she gave Zhao too many gift lifts. Nova is often the weak link but not today.

[badMania]

WYH born January 18, 1988
Wang Lin March 13, 1989
Lu Lan born October 17, 1987

these players stil in junior age.

Wang Rong, born April 18, 1984 too late, otherwise she will next Zhang Ning
Jiang Yanjiaou, June 26, 1986
Zhu Lin no data, I thaught she isn't junior age anymore.

FYI, Zhou Mi HAS RETIRED. She will be enrolled in Peking University next year, with major in management and economics. There goes another top player. Zhang Ning also surely will not last till the next Olympic. XXF will be the oldest player by then and perhaps the one with the best chance for the gold medal.

The young players are definitely catching my eyes. At last count, we have Wang Yihan, Jiang Janjiao, Lu Lan, Wang Rong, Chen Li and Wang Lin. I have seen most of them playing in the past 2 weeks (thanks to HK and China Open) and I do think Wang Yihan has the best potential to be the World no 1.

Jiang performed well in the Chinese National Games, but I am not impressed by her performance yesterday...she looked a little clumsy at times. As for the rest, time will tell if they really can replace their seniors.

[event]

he's 27 , he was born in 1978Oh. A year younger than Nova...hmm...but with far more depth on his nation's team...at least among those made available for mixed doubles.

[badMania]

This is true. I would love to see them become more consistent. With the exception of Lee/Lee, it seems to be the more experienced pairs that give them trouble.You watched today's match? Lilyana seemed to be making mistakes and wasn't strong on defense. Nova was holding it together with brilliant flat returns of smashes and great deception, good net attacking. All the attacks were directed at Lilyana and she gave Zhao too many gift lifts. Nova is often the weak link but not today.

Hmm...Nova made MANY mistakes today....and I was always shaking my head during the whole match. Butet is still young....(20 only) and she can only improve. Note that Nova/Butet was paired up last year and in a year, they are already WC and World no 1. Can you imagine if she gets a better partner than Nova? I would definitely love Sigit to pair up with her! It's a dream pairing.....

[taufik-ist]

abaina21356
Oh. A year younger than Nova...hmm...but with far more depth on his nation's team...at least among those made available for mixed doubles.
or if there's no place in china team, he can play for HK and pairing with wang chen :)

[taufik-ist]

Hmm...Nova made MANY mistakes today....and I was always shaking my head during the whole match. Butet is still young....(20 only) and she can only improve. Note that Nova/Butet was paired up last year and in a year, they are already WC and World no 1. Can you imagine if she gets a better partner than Nova? I would definitely love Sigit to pair up with her! It's a dream pairing.....

we must appreciate nova/natsir.. only one year pairing up... they become # 1 :D

i agree with u... sigit is one year yonger than flandy ...

[event]

Butet is still young....(20 only) and she can only improve. Note that Nova/Butet was paired up last year and in a year, they are already WC and World no 1. Can you imagine if she gets a better partner than Nova? I would definitely love Sigit to pair up with her! It's a dream pairing.....No argument here. She's definitely got the years ahead of her and Nova lacks the consistency to keep her at the top. Also, Nova, powerful as he is, just doesn't have the kind of forget-about-returning-it kind of smash that Sigit or the bigger guys like Fu, Kim, Ha, Eriksen or Lee have.

[Mag]

but the danes pairs are inconsistent now, and Jens Eriksen is too old, he's 36 old years... next year, he may not be able to compete again :D


Please define "inconsistent". Jens/Martin have been ranked #1 or #2 for over a year now. During this period they have not entered a tournament without reaching at least the QF stage. 5 finals (two wins), 4 semifinals, 3 quarterfinals. What's inconsistent about that? :eek:

So, in the light of the above, please define "too old".

In my opinion, it sounds like you are talking out of your hat. :p

[hcpoirot]

Chandra/Sigit or Luluk/Alven will never play XD. Not that they don't want to play XD but PBSI won't allow it. Can you see Indonesian's XD pattern?

Usually PBSI chose man player from MD players who won't be top MD players and the women from WD players who also won't be top WD players. Its kind of unofficial PBSI rules.

If they pair Chandra or Sigit or Tony Gnawan with our best WD players, probably we already had World XD champion long time ago. MD players rarely also play in XD in the same tournament. That also the rules for the WD. I don't know why.

So if Nova/Lili lost, they can't use tiredness as reason. Cause they only play XD. Compare with example : Zhao Ting Ting who also play WD and Zheng Bo who also play MD. And anyother XD players who also play in MD or WD.

That's why Korean legend, Kim D M and Ra K M can rules XD for such a long time. Both male and female player are the best players from MD and WD of KOrean pair.

[hcyong]

I agree with you. Another examples : Liu Yong who pair with Ge Fei was once number 1 XD also. And not to forget, Chen Qi Qiu who pair with Zhao Ting Ting. He was asp once MD player.

BTW,where is he? Retired already? Cause since Hong Kong Open, Zhao Ting Ting already pair with Zheng Bo. And Zheng Bo is better MD players than Zhang Jun, Liu Yong or Chen Qi Qiu.

If you look at the top 20 XD pairs, you can see a pattern where the woman is better at WD than the man at MD. Even Lee Jae Jin has dropped out of sight in MD, at least for the moment. But look at Gao Ling, Lee Hyo Jung, even Gail Emms is more successful at WD than Nathan is at MD. There are some exceptions, but the pattern is there.

Another way to look is this. See the top 10 WD pairs. How many players are successful in XD as well? Quite a number, maybe half. Now look at the top 10 MD pairs. How many of them are successful at XD? Eriksen, KKK, Lee Jae Jin (but he does not really count anymore). Just three.

My point is this. It is more difficult to participate in both MD and XD (and do well in both) than in WD and XD. The reason may be because it is the man who has to do most of the muscle work in the partnership, while the woman do most of the net guards and share the defending task (that makes sense because men are naturally stronger). So, it is exhausting to excel in both MD and WD. For some men, when they show better promise in XD, they may as well concentrate on XD.

[**KZ**]

its already 1900...someone please update the results if you're watching on TV

[taufik-ist]

Please define "inconsistent". Jens/Martin have been ranked #1 or #2 for over a year now. During this period they have not entered a tournament without reaching at least the QF stage. 5 finals (two wins), 4 semifinals, 3 quarterfinals. What's inconsistent about that? :eek:

So, in the light of the above, please define "too old".

In my opinion, it sounds like you are talking out of your hat. :p

inconsisten is they are rare to win big tournaments .... even in copenhaggen master 2005 they were fail
too old is he's not young anymore :D.. jen err is very old he's 36 years.. and and jonas ramussen's pair is also old he's 34++

[badMania]

Chandra/Sigit or Luluk/Alven will never play XD. Not that they don't want to play XD but PBSI won't allow it. Can you see Indonesian's XD pattern?


What I mean is once they have "retired" from MD. Candra will not stay for sure because he has achieved most of the top prizes in badminton (except maybe for Sudirman Cup). However, Sigit is still yearning for a last shot at the Olympics. It will be tough to bet it on MD since the competition will be very intense and Indonesia alone has upcoming pairs. On the other hand, a switch to XD will guarantee that he will participate in the next Olympics and a good chance of a medal. Sigit/Butet will definitely match any other top pair in the XD field.

[hezudao]

there aren't much opportunities to watch the few young Chinese WS players on match. often they lose in the earlier rounds and never get any TV time. this time around, however, we get to see Jiang, Wang Rong and Wang YH play. even though Jiang was the NC, out of the 3, i think WangYH has the best potential. as you said, good body build, speed, hardworking, shown good fighting spirit and kill instinct.

Jiang is also good but shuttle speed is slower. she is a more of a placement player from what i can tell. technique-wise she doesn't produce very sharp shots.

Wang Rong, despite being slow, i felt that she is kind of laid back. often happy to just keep the rally gonig and does work as hard as others in forming the rally. that's a valid style but imho not a winning style.

all are young, however, so by the time they mature, they will be taking the places of ZN, ZM, and probably XXF as well. XXF imho will be the last to retire while i don't thikn we will see ZhangN / ZhouM for more than a couple more years. these young ladies will have to be pushed up and will get more exposure at a younger age than the other used to.

thanks for the analysis. will look out her matched in the future. looks like the future is quite rosy for the womens field.

i am also interested in chen jin, looks like he is one to watch too. but too early to tell.

[Johnny]

jen err is very old he's 36 years.. and and jonas ramussen's pair is also old he's 34++

Jonas Rasmussen is 28
Lars Paaske is 29
Jens Eriksen is 35

[rollerbuzz]

results results!! :D

[badMania]

Peter Gade on the verge of another easy victory , leading 15-4, 13-5

[**KZ**]

MS already begun...where are the results?

[DinkAlot]

MS already begun...where are the results?


Yes, please update, thanks!

[badMania]

Partial results for Friday night session:
Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen bt Gail Emms/Donna Kellogg (no scores)
Peter Gade bt Kuan Beng Hong
Chen Hong leading Lin Dan 15-5 :eek:

[rollerbuzz]

Partial results for Friday night session:
Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen bt Gail Emms/Donna Kellogg (no scores)
Peter Gade bt Kuan Beng Hong
Chen Hong leading Lin Dan 15-5 :eek:

what bout 2nd set? :confused: lin dan vs chen hong*

[event]

Nobody watching singles? Chen Jin is up 4-1. Only 8 peers on PPLive.

[rollerbuzz]

y
Nobody watching singles? Chen Jin is up 4-1. Only 8 peers on PPLive.

hey can i have the site for the singles match again? thanks! :)

[DinkAlot]

Partial results for Friday night session:
Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen bt Gail Emms/Donna Kellogg (no scores)
Peter Gade bt Kuan Beng Hong
Chen Hong leading Lin Dan 15-5 :eek:

Wow, Yang/Zhang! :eek:

CH beating LD?!??!?! :eek: :eek:

[badMania]

Nobody watching singles? Chen Jin is up 4-1. Only 8 peers on PPLive.

I gave up watching due to the lags.

[badMania]

Hmm...from the website, Chen Hong has won his match :eek:

[Phoebe_hsw]

Partial results for Friday night session:
Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen bt Gail Emms/Donna Kellogg (no scores)
Peter Gade bt Kuan Beng Hong
Chen Hong leading Lin Dan 15-5 :eek:
do you have scores for the Gade game?

[DinkAlot]

Hmm...from the website, Chen Hong has won his match :eek:

CH beat LD?! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[SmartCivet]

CHEN HONG beat LIN DAN 15-5 15-8 :crying: :crying: :crying:

[badMania]

Chen Hong bt Lin Dan 15-5, 15-8 :eek:
Team order or simply no motivation to play for Lin Dan?

[badMania]

Chen Hong bt Lin Dan 15-5, 15-8
Peter Gade bt Kuan Beng Hong 15-4, 15-8

[DinkAlot]

Chen Hong bt Lin Dan 15-5, 15-8 :eek:
Team order or simply no motivation to play for Lin Dan?

Who knows? :rolleyes: Does anyone have the DL of the match, or will have the DL of the match soon? If so, please load it.

I still hope Chen Jin wins it all. :D

[SmartCivet]

do you have scores for the Gade game?
GADE win 15:4,15:8

[rollerbuzz]

:eek::confused: how did he play?? was it that bad? or was it just a let-go match? -.^

[DinkAlot]

GADE win 15:4,15:8

How about Chen Jin's score? Thanks.

[olli]

Chen Hong bt Lin Dan 15-5, 15-8 :eek:
Team order or simply no motivation to play for Lin Dan?

If it had been a team order, Lin Dan should have won. He has won all of his recent matches vs. Gade, while Chen Hong always has trouble playing Gade - seems that his play style fits Gade better.

[Phoebe_hsw]

GADE win 15:4,15:8
thank you so much :)

[Wildstone]

can those now online go watch GDTV on pplive ?
need more people to make it smooth

[Wildstone]

It's WCH against Chen jin now

[rollerbuzz]

whats the link?


can those now online go watch GDTV on pplive ?
need more people to make it smooth

[**KZ**]

WCH vs Chen Jin results anyone?

[Wildstone]

whats the link?

www.pplive.com (http://www.pplive.com)

pre-requiste: You can read chinese

[rollerbuzz]

www.pplive.com (http://www.pplive.com)

pre-requiste: You can read chinese

what if i cant? lol

[SmartCivet]

CHEN Jin win the 1st set 15:13

[ying ying]

Watching CJ against WCH right now.. Dammit the com is really laggy.. The last time i saw CJ was leading WCH 13-12? :confused: not sure.. sorry:o

[Wildstone]

stupid choon hann hit the shuttle out in front of the net

[abedeng]

Watching CJ against WCH right now.. Dammit the com is really laggy.. The last time i saw CJ was leading WCH 13-12? :confused: not sure.. sorry:o

How to find the right channel? I only got gibberish in my screen, does not support chinese characters.

[**KZ**]

lets cheer for choong hann!

[event]

what if i cant? lolYou don't need to read Chinese. Look here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=306657&postcount=24). Get the latest PPLive version (http://www.pplive.com/download/PPLiveSetup1.0.9.7.exe). It installs in English but the first link shows you how to get the channel.

[Ahlut]

stupid choon hann hit the shuttle out in front of the net
YUP...WCH..alway made stupid mistake like that..damn it

[event]

YUP...WCH..alway made stupid mistake like that..damn itWong leading second 4-2?

[DinkAlot]

CHEN Jin win the 1st set 15:13

w00t! Go CJ! :D :D :D

[**KZ**]

w00t! Go CJ! :D :D :D



no no.....go choong hann

[event]

Wong leading second 4-2?Wong up 5-3. I keep getting re-buffering problems. Even though there are 21 peers now.

[m_poppema]

Come on people go watch PPlive!!!

Chen is leading 7-6 in the second game..

[Ahlut]

Wong leading second 4-2?
6:5*..WCH..too many unforced misstake

[DinkAlot]

Come on people go watch PPlive!!!

Chen in leading 7-6 in the second game..

CJ jia you! Jia you! Jia-jia you! :D :D :D

[event]

Wong up 5-3. I keep getting re-buffering problems. Even though there are 21 peers now.Chen up 7-6.\ now.

[m_poppema]

Serve goes over and over..
It's a close game..

[event]

I gave up watching due to the lags.by "lags", do you mean the stops due to re-buffering? They are driving me crazy.

[ying ying]

woah.. if this goes on Chen Jin will eventually get his revenge :eek:

[m_poppema]

Finally change of scores....7-7

And another unforced error by Chen Jin 8-7

serve over..and 8-8 winning clear..

11-10 Chen Jin

[DinkAlot]

11-8 Chen Jin

JYCJ!!!
JYCJ!!!
JYCJ!!!

Jia You Chen Jin! :p

[tutu_h]

go go wong, wong boleh, m'sia boleh!!!

[**KZ**]

go go wong, wong boleh, m'sia boleh!!!


c'mon wong..make us proud...

[m_poppema]

13-10 Chen Jin still serving..

[Bad_Crazy]

Come on Chen Jin!!!:D :D :D :D

[tutu_h]

c'mon wong..make us proud...

i am worrying about Wong's stamina against Chen who is much younger than him.

[m_poppema]

Wong CH back to serve now..

11-13

[DinkAlot]

13-10 Chen Jin still serving..

WOOO-HOOO!!! Jia you CJ! :D :D :D

[event]

i am worrying about Wong's stamina against Chen who is much younger than him.Mine's been buffering for 10 minutes. Is anyone there watching it on PPLive? No luck here even though it shows 16 peers. I finally got a between-point picture and now it's frozen. Down to 14 peers.

[tutu_h]

Wong CH back to serve now..

加油啊！黄钟翰！！！！你可以的！

[m_poppema]

Chen Jin has won the serve back now...leading 13-11

MATCH POINT 14-11

[DinkAlot]

Chen Jin has won the serve back now...leading 13-11

MATCH POINT 14-11

WinnAr! :D :D :D

[m_poppema]

13-14 the Malaysian is coming back :eek:

2nd matchpoint now!

[tutu_h]

13-14 the Malaysian is coming back :eek:

go go, go into decider game

[event]

Chen Jin has won the serve back now...leading 13-11

MATCH POINT 14-11Finally didn't cut out before the end of a rally. 14-13 Chen serving.

Oh. Chen won...somehow. screen froze but I heard the triumphant cry from Chen. PPLive is a waste of time at present.

[Bad_Crazy]

Come on Chen Jin one more point only

[m_poppema]

加油啊！黄钟翰！！！！你可以的！

Wong Choon Hann

[Wildstone]

WCH lost
13:15 both set

[m_poppema]

We have a winner :D

Chen Jin won 15-13 / 15-13

Now we can make Yannie happy ;)

[DinkAlot]

We have a winner :D

Chen Jin won 15-13 / 15-13

Now we can make Yannie happy ;)

We didn't make Yannie happy, CJ and WCH made Yannie happy. :D

Oh, I'm happy too. :p

[tutu_h]

We have a winner :D

Chen Jin won 15-13 / 15-13

Now we can make Yannie happy ;)

but i'm :crying: :crying: :crying:

[ying ying]

Lol.. What a match ... I only can hear the sounds of ppl cheering..:eek:

[**KZ**]

f**k it....i dont think astro needs to air china open already.
no more m'sian players already...:crying:
if only wong can make it into a 3rd game..if only luluk/alven had'nt play that well against choong/lee:crying:
feel like trashing the pc

[rollerbuzz]

why wont it work? i've downloaded PPLive.. what do i do next? ive found the list of channels but it wont work >"<

[xijiayu]

This is expected already. Although I wanted WCH to win, but CJ is on fire now. He is rising and I think he could replace LD as Chinese no. 1 in three years.

[aussie fan]

I 'have also downloaded PPlive but can't find the channel It is all "???" Why?

[KaSoon]

f**k it....i dont think astro needs to air china open already.
no more m'sian players already...:crying:
if only wong can make it into a 3rd game..if only luluk/alven had'nt play that well against choong/lee:crying:
feel like trashing the pc

Malacca boy, is not good to use the word - f**k..Lost is lost....:(

[yingcheng]

45 peers but still very lag......:mad:

hey..wot happen to lin dan?! did GDTV broadcast it?
i just finished my dinner & found that Chen hong bt Lin dan in 2-0 easily...

[**KZ**]

Malacca boy, is not good to use the word - f**k..Lost is lost....:(


sorry....just a lil sad:(

[hcyong]

MS
Chen Hong bt Lin Dan 15-5, 15-8
Peter Gade bt Kuan Beng Hong 15-4, 15-8
Lee Hyun Il vs Bao Chunlai
Chen Jin bt Wong Choong Hann 15-13, 15-13

WS
Zhang Ning bt Yao Jie 11-4, 5-11, 11-8
Wang Chen bt Chen Li - 11-8, ... not sure of score
Wang Yihan bt Susan Hughes 11-5, 5-11, 11-9
Xie Xingfang bt Mia Audina Tjiptawan 11-4, 11-5

MD (It's Indonesia v Denmark)
Candra/Sigit bt Zheng Bo/Xu Chen 15-13, 15-6
Paaske/Rasmussen bt Fu/Cai 7-15, 15-9, 15-8
Luluk/Alven bt Laybourn/Steffensen 15-12, 15-13
Eriksen/Lundgaard Hansen bt Jung/Han 15-6, 15-8

WD
Yang/Zhang bt Emms/Kellogg 15-3, 15-4
Lee/Lee vs Novita/Polii
Zhang/Zhang bt Wei/Zhao 15-5, 15-5
Tripp/Nicholas vs Gao/Huang

XD
Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting bt Widianto/Natsir 15-9, 17-15
Robertson/Emms bt Clark/Kellogg 15-8, 15-5
Eriksen/Schjoldager bt Xie/Zhang 15-6, 15-8
Lee/Lee bt Shirley/Runesten-Petersen 13-15, 15-4, 15-4

[ying ying]

Its okay la.. People lose some and win some.. Who knows that next time maybe Choong Hann might surprise us like what he did at the HK Open..:o Its not the end of the world for him.. ;)

[badMania]

45 peers but still very lag......:mad:

hey..wot happen to lin dan?! did GDTV broadcast it?
i just finished my dinner & found that Chen hong bt Lin dan in 2-0 easily...

I am kinda beginning to suspect Lin Dan is going to become another Taufik (in terms of attitude towards winning). Both have the tendency to lose games easily as and when they like it (like today for Lin Dan), without giving much fight. This year alone, counting today's defeat, Lin Dan has had 4 bad defeats, those in which he did not really bother fighting. 2 to Taufik in the Singapore Open and WC, 1 to LCW (this is more ridiculous....losing after such a big lead), and today's toothless performance against Chen Hong. I think it all boils down to MOTIVATION!

And YES, I don't really like both players. I prefer Sony, who is more down to earth. Chen Jin is also fast becoming my favorite Chinese player after an awesome display this week.

[twobeer]

why wont it work? i've downloaded PPLive.. what do i do next? ive found the list of channels but it wont work >"<


I 'have also downloaded PPlive but can't find the channel It is all "???" Why?

try
synacast://09jN1+TK3K3nn6qbo6iem9uS1KOcy6OZo9WcltiXpdSZyq/H0qTQyqee1qXO5pzQ363hzebZqp+b1d/IpJ7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/Io57f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/Iop7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/IoZ7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoJbayuPKrSlPHyExVUNpo6iVp aKnsNrZ5p3f2eXX5OOmmqaYo+0=
/Twobeer

[Dunlop]

I 'have also downloaded PPlive but can't find the channel It is all "???" Why?


Try using an older version like 1.0.7.3. It will display the channels properly. I have the same problem (ie ???) with the later versions like 1.0.9.x

:) :) :)

[rollerbuzz]

try
synacast://09jN1+TK3K3nn6qbo6iem9uS1KOcy6OZo9WcltiXpdSZyq/H0qTQyqee1qXO5pzQ363hzebZqp+b1d/IpJ7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/Io57f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/Iop7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/IoZ7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoJbayuPKrSlPHyExVUNpo6iVp aKnsNrZ5p3f2eXX5OOmmqaYo+0=
/Twobeer

i tried but it says "synacast is not a registered protocol"..
now what channel am i suppose to select? i tried different channels but it ends up saying your "current channel has left, please reselect".. help!!:crying:

[Simp84]

I am kinda beginning to suspect Lin Dan is going to become another Taufik (in terms of attitude towards winning). Both have the tendency to lose games easily as and when they like it (like today for Lin Dan), without giving much fight. This year alone, counting today's defeat, Lin Dan has had 4 bad defeats, those in which he did not really bother fighting. 2 to Taufik in the Singapore Open and WC, 1 to LCW (this is more ridiculous....losing after such a big lead), and today's toothless performance against Chen Hong. I think it all boils down to MOTIVATION!

And YES, I don't really like both players. I prefer Sony, who is more down to earth. Chen Jin is also fast becoming my favorite Chinese player after an awesome display this week.
I have a feeling LD wants to avoid Gade, because Gade is slowly figuring his game out.... I think it might be LYB's little nasty advice, telling him to avoid him since they have met each other so many times this past 2 years, and Gade is slowly surpassing him.. who knows:D:D LYB IS EVIL! lol

[qwertyu]

Someone just mentioned about players who play XD and MD do not do well as they are the main players that got to go extra miles, what about a player that play MS and MD like Choong Hann??? I think BAM should quickly decide the role that they want Choong Hann to play. No player had ever achieve great height in being a single and double player at the same time in today's competitive badminton world.

[SmartCivet]

WS
Wang Chen bt Chen Li - 11-8, ... not sure of score


wang chen beat chen li 11-8 11-3

[aussie fan]

Thanks twobeer. Managed to get GDTV_spo... onto the play list but the buffering could not get above 40%

[Phoebe_hsw]

wang chen beat chen li 11-8 11-3
but in the website,it becomes 11-8,11-13:rolleyes:

[Slugs]

Against CH, LD always have unfathomnable complexes!

[m_poppema]

Gao/Huang bt Tripp/Nicholas

[event]

Thanks twobeer. Managed to get GDTV_spo... onto the play list but the buffering could not get above 40%Did you end up knocking the version down? I don't think that bodes well for your connection prospects. I connect okay but buffering did take a while a couple of times.

I don't know what Synacast is. That's just what you get when you copy the shortcut URL from the link on the PPLive channel list. On Windows XP SP2 running IE6 and with PPLive 1.0.9.7 installed, using that Synacast URL fires up PPLive and connects me to GDTV.

Do you have (simplified characters) Chinese language support installed on your browser? If not, try installing it. Then you should be able to do a text search after doing a cut and paste from one of the many posts with Guangdong Sports written in Chinese.

Oh well, another Chinese women's doubles blowout and the match of the day - Lee Hyun-il vs. Bao Chunlai - is on Court 2: ie. not televised.

[m_poppema]

Check this if your PPlive doesn't work.. (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=306657&postcount=24)

It works for me..

[Mag]

inconsisten is they are rare to win big tournaments .... even in copenhaggen master 2005 they were fail
too old is he's not young anymore :D.. jen err is very old he's 36 years.. and and jonas ramussen's pair is also old he's 34++

I think you are guilty of making very sweeping statements! :D

I could have accepted "old", but not "too old". "Too old" and "not young" are not synonyms, you know. I will agree that Jens is "too old" when his performance starts to decline, but the fact is that he's never been better than now.

I still don't understand what you mean by "inconsistent". Consistency is not winning every tournament. Nobody does that these days. To me, consistency is winning the matches you are supposed to win, not losing in early stages of tournaments against "lesser" opponents, etc.

I would also be very careful about using an invitational tournament, such as the Copenhagen Masters, as a performance ruler. I was there, so I saw first hand that the participating players took it very lightly! For the Danes, it's something they do for fun between X-mas and New Year.

And you might want to check up on those ages, and who actually plays with who, as Johnny has already pointed out. :D

[event]

why wont it work? i've downloaded PPLive.. what do i do next? ive found the list of channels but it wont work >"<What do you mean the list of channels won't work?

[yingcheng]

Oh well, another Chinese women's doubles blowout and the match of the day - Lee Hyun-il vs. Bao Chunlai - is on Court 2: ie. not televised.

i can't think of any reason why they stop the livecast & showing tons of advertisment now!!!:mad:

[aussie fan]

No still has the latest version. However the buffering keeps dropping down when it reached a peak of 40%!!!




Did you end up knocking the version down? I don't think that bodes well for your connection prospects. I connect okay but buffering did take a while a couple of times.

I don't know what Synacast is. That's just what you get when you copy the shortcut URL from the link on the PPLive channel list. On Windows XP SP2 running IE6 and with PPLive 1.0.9.7 installed, using that Synacast URL fires up PPLive and connects me to GDTV.

Do you have (simplified characters) Chinese language support installed on your browser? If not, try installing it. Then you should be able to do a text search after doing a cut and paste from one of the many posts with Guangdong Sports written in Chinese.

Oh well, another Chinese women's doubles blowout and the match of the day - Lee Hyun-il vs. Bao Chunlai - is on Court 2: ie. not televised.

[Wildstone]

i can't think of any reason why they stop the livecast & showing tons of advertisment now!!!:mad:

yeah ... no offence but comparison with other TVs china's TV management sucks ...

why keep showing ads and they are all repeatly the same, like the audience will keep on that channel watching the same ads for 30 minutes

[Mag]

I have a feeling LD wants to avoid Gade, because Gade is slowly figuring his game out.... I think it might be LYB's little nasty advice, telling him to avoid him since they have met each other so many times this past 2 years, and Gade is slowly surpassing him.. who knows:D:D LYB IS EVIL! lol

So, you're saying that Lin Dan lost to Chen Hong, so that Gade wouldn't get a chance to beat him? :D :D *rofl*

The capacity for consipracy theories is impressive here at BF, but this one really takes the prize!

[event]

i tried but it says "synacast is not a registered protocol"..
now what channel am i suppose to select? i tried different channels but it ends up saying your "current channel has left, please reselect".. help!!:crying:Are you not using IE version 6?

Another way I get GDTV is to get PPLive running in the system tray, then right click on the system tray icon then choose channels, then the fourth arrow and then the first channel on that 3rd-level menu that finally pops up.

Anyway, GDTV badminton coverage is done for the day but you should familiarize yourself now so that you won't have a problem if you want to watch the semis tomorrow.

The good news is that in another half hour you can just click on the CCTV-5 option with confidence to see their delayed broadcast.

[m_poppema]

yeah ... no offence but comparison with other TVs china's TV management sucks ...

why keep showing ads and they are all repeatly the same, like the audience will keep on that channel watching the same ads for 30 minutes

I thought we had long commercial brakes here in Holland..
But this is even worse :crying::eek:

[weeyet]

That's one heck of an accent. ;) :p :D

Very impressive though. :D

Yup, but we couldn't master all of the languages well :(

[event]

No still has the latest version. However the buffering keeps dropping down when it reached a peak of 40%!!!Ah, when you said your channel list showed you all "???", you meant the channel list that comes up when you right-click on the system tray icon, right?

Did you try http://www.pplive.com/source.shtml in a simplified-Chinese-enabled browser?

[weeyet]

My almight Choong Hann lose :(
But maybe he is sadder than me

[tony rules]

hyun il vs bao chunlai????????? no results?

[2cents]

hyun il vs bao chunlai????????? no results?
15-4;0-15
they are tied at 1:1
Lee lost 2nd set 0:15

[weeyet]

15-4;0-15
they are tied at 1:1
Lee lost 2nd set 0:15

Lee must had given up that match when Bao leads too much
I saw him do that before
din wan to return shuttlecock at all

[event]

I thought we had long commercial brakes here in Holland..
But this is even worse :crying::eek:Yes, GDTV can be pretty bad. They do that here in Korea too but mainly between programs. It makes it nice as a viewer because if you have a proper schedule, you can get a lot done during the adds and then watch largely unbroken programs when they come back. We don't know the system here. This China Open coverage is a LOT better than GDTV was during the WC when they were showing 5-10 minutes of adds and chopping a few points off the game coverage to accomodate it! I haven't seen much of that here. Maybe just a few points at the beginnings of each game while the commercials are going on.

In any case, I think the reason here is that the badminton coverage is finished. The Korea vs. Indonesia game finished on Court 2 and Lee vs. Bao was in progress when Gao/Huang won so there was nothing left for them to show on the televised court. They had the commentators assembled on the set and I'm sure they closed it out. If we were from Guangdong, we'd have understood them when they said "Good night" to the audience and we'd be used to this happening half an hour before the next scheduled program and would use that time accordingly.

[Simp84]

So, you're saying that Lin Dan lost to Chen Hong, so that Gade wouldn't get a chance to beat him? :D :D *rofl*

The capacity for consipracy theories is impressive here at BF, but this one really takes the prize!
well ya since LD is loaded with $$$ he doens't have to win lol~
The match could be fixed so that LD avoid Gade, and Gade will never figure out how to beat him lol, and that will add on to psychological advantage to LD :p

[hcyong]

Someone just mentioned about players who play XD and MD do not do well as they are the main players that got to go extra miles, what about a player that play MS and MD like Choong Hann??? I think BAM should quickly decide the role that they want Choong Hann to play. No player had ever achieve great height in being a single and double player at the same time in today's competitive badminton world.

As far as I know, WCH is not being MD at the moment. In both HK and China, Chew CE was partnered with some other player I don't recognise.

[Badmincraze]

Go ! Bao !!! If he makes it thru Lee, he MIGHT clitch his 1st Men's Singles since Lin Dan oredi out of the game...:D

Go Bao!!!

[2cents]

WS
Zhang Ning bt Yao Jie 11-4, 5-11, 11-8
Wang Chen bt Chen Li - 11-8, 11:13... not sure of score
Wang Yihan bt Susan Hughes 11-5, 5-11, 11-9
Xie Xingfang bt Mia Audina Tjiptawan 11-4, 11-5 <-- match of the day ???



Most people here labeled Xie vs Mia as the match of day. But it turns out to be the easiest slaughter . I remember Xie cruised Mia before with eggs.

[event]

Go ! Bao !!! If he makes it thru Lee, he MIGHT clitch his 1st Men's Singles since Lin Dan oredi out of the game...:D

Go Bao!!!Good night all. Enjoy CCTV. I hope Lee Hyun-il will have beaten Bao by then!

[Badmincraze]

Good night all. Enjoy CCTV. I hope Lee Hyun-il will have beaten Bao by then!

Haha... all the best to BOTH of us !! ;)

[hcyong]

Most people here labeled Xie vs Mia as the match of day. But it turns out to be the easiest slaughter . I remember Xie cruised Mia before with eggs.

It is easy to say that in retrospect. But at the beginning of the day, it was indeed, for me at least, the most promising match (despite recognising that Mia's form is not that great at the moment).

[m_poppema]

Will CCTV5 show any full matches?
Or was this everything we are getting to see?!

[2cents]

It is easy to say that in retrospect. But at the beginning of the day, it was indeed, for me at least, the most promising match (despite recognising that Mia's form is not that great at the moment).

Actually, I did say that before yesterday, I disagreed that match would be a match. I thought Zhang Ning and Wang Chen would have more difficult tasks to overcome than Xie. I didn't think Mia had any response to the power, quickness and agility of Xie. :D Sorry for indicating this, Mia is good at her toughness, but it only works when she can resist the first attack.

[tony rules]

update pls for bao chunlai's game

[manabu]

BCL won!! an egg for LCI 2nd game
6-15
15-0
15-8

[sugar_free]

BCL won!! an egg for LCI 2nd game
You gotta be kidding me!!! 15-0 for Bao? :eek: Is he on fire? :D

[event]

Will CCTV5 show any full matches?
Or was this everything we are getting to see?!Well, they are showing Chen Jin and Wong Choong Han warming up so my guess is that they will show a whole match or two.
The quality kicks compared to GDTV earlier. Even with only 10 peers.

[Badmincraze]

You gotta be kidding me!!! 15-0 for Bao? :eek: Is he on fire? :D

Its true.. Bao won 15-0 in the 2nd game... but the 3rd game's result has yet to be released....

[manabu]

exact scores posted :)

[Phoebe_hsw]

exact scores posted :)
do you have the score for the women doubles between korean and indon pairs?

[yingcheng]

You gotta be kidding me!!! 15-0 for Bao? :eek: Is he on fire? :D

i think Lee gave up the 2nd set in order to save energy..

anyway..WELL DONE for BAO BAO!!!
hope he can get this china open champion!! (gd chance as LD is out!)

[badMania]

Who won the women's doubles match between Lee/Lee and Jo/Greysia? I have waiting for ages for the result to be shown. I went to gym for more than 1.5 hr and its still not there yet...grr....:mad:

[2cents]

it is really out of my expectation that Lin Dan lost to Chen Hong. Now Pete Gade has a clear path to the final, maybe the title.

[manabu]

I think itz about time for BCL to excel~~

hope he will do well tomorrow
GO BAO CL!

[rollerbuzz]

go CHEN HONG, PETER GADE, CHEN JIN!!! :rolleyes:

[red00ecstrat]

what?? lin dan lost to chen hong!

[event]

it is really out of my expectation that Lin Dan lost to Chen Hong. Now Pete Gade has a clear path to the final, maybe the title.Since when does a SF match against the All England champion constitute "a clear path to the final"? I mean, granted, Gade leads the head-to-head race 7-1 but they've only played once in the past year.

[red00ecstrat]

Since when does a SF match against the All England champion constitute "a clear path to the final"? I mean, granted, Gade leads the head-to-head race 7-1 but they've only played once in the past year.

i do hope gade can take the title this time!

[sugar_free]

I think itz about time for BCL to excel~~

hope he will do well tomorrow
GO BAO CL!

I agree with you!!! 4 yrs waiting to be a champion is definitely too long...

[badMania]

i do hope gade can take the title this time!

I also hope that Peter Gade can end the year with a title...

[Melmel]

Yessss, i also soooo eager to know the result, any kind soul out there willing to inform us?




Who won the women's doubles match between Lee/Lee and Jo/Greysia? I have waiting for ages for the result to be shown. I went to gym for more than 1.5 hr and its still not there yet...grr....:mad:

[red00ecstrat]

i m watching cctv 5 at the moment. anyone knows they are live boradcasting or reboardcasting the match between wong choong hann and chen jin?

[nugroho]

Yessss, i also soooo eager to know the result, any kind soul out there willing to inform us?



we would like to know the result between the korean and indonesian....;)

[yingcheng]

i m watching cctv 5 at the moment. anyone knows they are live boradcasting or reboardcasting the match between wong choong hann and chen jin?

itz re-boardcasting..
this is a great match! enjoy!

[newjazz]

I also hope that Peter Gade can end the year with a title...

Yeah! I hope so!

Gade jia you! :D:D:D

[red00ecstrat]

itz re-boardcasting..
this is a great match! enjoy!

thx but don't tell me anything about that match! :D

[Wong8Egg]

Why I just found the re-boardcasting after knowing the result on BC, feel bad for WCH

[yingcheng]

we would like to know the result between the korean and indonesian....;)

Lee/Lee won by 15:11,15:11

[fishnet wen*yi]

go CHEN HONG, PETER GADE, CHEN JIN!!! :rolleyes:

:p bet u 100 plus bao chunlai will reach finals! bet u apollo he will win! hahahaha.. :p ur fave player lose to chen hong oredi liau :D

[red00ecstrat]

infact it should be 50/50 but wong himself made so many mistakes.

[fishnet wen*yi]

Why I just found the re-boardcasting after knowing the result on BC, feel bad for WCH

yala... must be a really close and tough one... but chen jin's got the upperhand in fan support after all... what to do.. hav a strong feeling he will rise to world no.1 sumday.

[badMania]

Lee/Lee won by 15:11,15:11

An expected win...but definitely the Indo pair is closing the gap with the top pairs now. With the quarter-final placing, they should be in the top 20s with a possibility of breaking into the top 10 by mid next year. Except the top 5 pair, they should be on pair with the other top 10 players like Saralee/Satinee, Emms/Kellogg, Wong/Chin, and Jiang/Li.

[nugroho]

An expected win...but definitely the Indo pair is closing the gap with the top pairs now. With the quarter-final placing, they should be in the top 20s with a possibility of breaking into the top 10 by mid next year. Except the top 5 pair, they should be on pair with the other top 10 players like Saralee/Satinee, Emms/Kellogg, Wong/Chin, and Jiang/Li.

i gues the last result will palce them on 20 something... and yeah ... they will be top 10 they keep this performance by next year

[Han]

It's very heart-broken to see how Choon Hann managed to lost the games to Chen Jin. There were plenty of opportunities for Choon Hann but he did not capitalize it, way too many unforce errors even with the wide open court when Chen Jin was out of position yet Choon Hann managed to hit to the net or hit the bird wide. All came at the crucial moment. Choon Hann also dug himself into a deep hole in early game 1 by trailing big margin then gradually crawled back to made the game close but lost 13-15.
No doubt Chen Jin will be very good in years to come but Choon Hann should have upper hand at this stage of his career against him ... I still like Choon Hann because he has good sportmanship as the Chinese commentators mentioned during the games, the only funny thing was these two commentators were trying hard to name European players that have poor sportmanship but failed to produce one. Why even go that far? Local hero Lin Dan is one vivid example of that :-)

[Morten]

headcoach for mens single thomas stuer lauridsen metioned last monday that the danish and malaysian shuttlers only were given one court to train on each, where the chinese shuttlers had a lot of courts. one court for 20-25 players :( thats not fair and only further gives an indication that the chinese not always are known for having great sportmanship. to much patriosm doesnt go the right way

[hcpoirot]

LD lost probably of 2 causes:

1. If it was team order to lost, he lost not because he is afraid to meet Peter Gade or afraid Gade will know his style. Come on, they had play for so many times, both of them already memorize each style.

Team order him to loose for Chen Hong to get more ranking points. If Chen Hong can make it to Top 4 with LD and BCL, the Chinese will onlymeet each other minimal in Semifinal and not QF like now or BCL VS CH in Hong Kong QF recently. And also they will not meet each other in one group at World Cup 2005, Dec later.

2. If it was not team order, LD simply is exhausted. In one month or so, he enter National Games where he is the winner. Hong Kong Open where he is also the winner and now China Open. He play too many times.

But my guess is it is team order for CH to gain more ranking points.

[hcpoirot]

Here goes my theory about team order for LD to lost to gain points for CH.



Now Kenneth at rank 4 with 34708. Taufik no 6 with 33373 points. CH number 6 with 32790 and Peter G no 7 with 31693 points.



After end of Nov 2005, Kenneth will got reduced point to 30340.(From China Open and Singapore Open last year) Taufik will also got reduced point from last year China Open to 29593.



Now if Peter Gade lost in SF, he will got 32593 points and CH will at least got 32670 if he reach final. So the ranking will be CH no 4, Peter Gade no 5, Kenneth no 6 and Taufik no 7.



But of course CH had to beat PG in SF which I much doubt,cause the record is 7-1 for PG.

[wwcbro]

Maybe Lin Dan lost, becuase Chen Hong beat him?

[virusvoodoo]

Maybe Lin Dan lost, becuase Chen Hong beat him?

Agree!

Why would LI Yongbo order LIN Dan to lose to CHEN Hong so that CHEN can play against Peter GADE? CHEN has been known to have problem against GADE while LIN is still ahead of GADE. I don't think Li Yongbo would risk the China Open title just to bring CHEN Hong's stats?

[kwun]

Agree!

Why would LI Yongbo order LIN Dan to lose to CHEN Hong so that CHEN can play against Peter GADE? CHEN has been known to have problem against GADE while LIN is still ahead of GADE. I don't think Li Yongbo would risk the China Open title just to bring CHEN Hong's stats?

i agree with this analysis. it makes more sense than a consipiracy theory which only involves tweaking the ranking. esp since there are no upcoming major tournaments (ie. WC, Olympics)

[Morten]

no way he lost the match for such a purpose. Lin Dan is exhausted which is naturally for a player who has played in a lot of tournaments since WC. ChenHong is also known for being able to trouble LD. BTW I dont think he either lost the AE because of ranking points or because he would like CH to win. Neither did he lose the 1st set in the AE final to Gade, for wanting him to be tired, if he really wanted to fatigue gade he should have done it from the first point in the game. As someone already have mentioned in here players loose and win and even the worlds best ms player loose sometime, but please stop these excuses for your countrymen or idols. Would be the same as if I said Chen Jin only won yesterday against KJ because KJ just had been a father and he rather wanted to see his child than playing in China Open, bu he did not, he lost because of fantastic play from the chinese youngster.

[2cents]

i agree with this analysis. it makes more sense than a consipiracy theory which only involves tweaking the ranking. esp since there are no upcoming major tournaments (ie. WC, Olympics)

That theory sounds weird to me also. If there were a conspiracy theory, i would believe that Chen Hong let Lin have some sleepy drinks, because Lin Dan looked very sleepy during the game. :cool:

[2cents]

That theory sounds weird to me also. If there were a conspiracy theory, i would believe that Chen Hong let Lin have some sleepy drinks, because Lin Dan looked very sleepy during the game. :cool:

Besides, I don't think Chen Hong, Lin Dan or Li Yongbo are good at mathematics. At least, the analysts here are far beyond what Chen Hong people can understand in Mathematics. But I believe those players are good at Chinese medicine, they must have all kinds of recipe to make a sleepy drink. :rolleyes:

[peace]

:crying: LD losttt.....

By the way, double thumbs for Indonesian WD Polii/Novita....they only lost to the best pairs in the world, like Yang/Zhang, Lee/Lee, Gao/Huang....if they can maintain this, probably someday they will get 10 top...good for Indonesia especially when they have to face the UC qualification next year. Let's hope other WS and WD can do the progress as well...

Well, not a good performance for Indo MS, since SOny and SImon cannot perform well..It's not good for Indonesian team, they cannot only count on Taufik....

Maybe Indo has to learn a lot from China who has very good regeneration.

[rhkjcfp]

itz re-boardcasting..
this is a great match! enjoy!

where can I find the CCTV broadcasting schedule ?
When these matches re-broadcast?

Thanks

[kwun]

where can I find the CCTV broadcasting schedule ?
When these matches re-broadcast?

Thanks

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=123

at the top.

[DinkAlot]

but chen jin's got the upperhand in fan support after all... what to do.. hav a strong feeling he will rise to world no.1 sumday.

Yes Sir, I bet Chen Jin will be # 1 within 2 years. :D

[DinkAlot]

Maybe Lin Dan lost, becuase Chen Hong beat him?

LOL! Unpossible, how could Super Dan lose? ;) :p :D ;) ;) ;)

[viver]

Yes Sir, I bet Chen Jin will be # 1 within 2 years. :D

There still a Gong Weijie. Even though he lost to Chen Jin in the World Junior finals last year, Gong was more impressive of the two. He has a wide variety of shots and his cross court attacks had CJ always scrambling for the shuttle. After his energy levels went down, CJ was able to recover.

The interesting thing during that game, in my opinion I think CJ for many times tried to change the pace/tactics but was prevented by Gong better shuttle placement. In 2 years time GWJ will also be more mature and stronger. It will be interesting to watch then who will be better.

[doublewings]

There still a Gong Weijie. Even though he lost to Chen Jin in the World Junior finals last year, Gong was more impressive of the two. He has a wide variety of shots and his cross court attacks had CJ always scrambling for the shuttle. After his energy levels went down, CJ was able to recover.

The interesting thing during that game, in my opinion I think CJ for many times tried to change the pace/tactics but was prevented by Gong better shuttle placement. In 2 years time GWJ will also be more mature and stronger. It will be interesting to watch then who will be better.

They both will be at the top rankings in a couple years time and are going to win many many tournaments among them, as long as they stay healthy. Who's better remains to be seen, there are so many other factors.

[viver]

Hughes has good shots when she has the time to prepare and react. WYH shouldn't lift to the center and give her time.

on the other hand, WYH is faster, so Hughes shouldn't give her the opportunity to outspeed her.

Watched WYHan play here last year, again the World Juniors. She is fast and aggressive. Her cross court drop with a straight smash is an awesome weapon. What I felt at that time, she did not vary much her game, and too many unforced errors.

From the juniors present here last year, I like Wang Lin better. Though she is the youngest (15), she appears to have more patience and also a wide variety of strokes. She is also tall - Wang Yihan, Lu Lan and Wang Lin appear to be about same height at that time, and handles the pressure well, but seem to get distracted during the matches.

Will see in a year or two their progress.

[viver]

They both will be at the top rankings in a couple years time and are going to win many many tournaments among them, as long as they stay healthy. Who's better remains to be seen, there are so many other factors.

Of course, I do not have a crystal ball and everything said here is just a guess. :)

As of last year final, my opinion is Gong has better skills - dominated most of the rallies, often had CJ running around to retrieve the shots, but physically and experience wise not as good as CJ. But CJ on the other hand, had superb composure and fighting spirit. He kept going until Gong ran out of gas and he won the match. :D

To reach the top, technique alone is not enough. There is a combination of many components to make a champion. ;)

[yannie]

S4MadMan (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/member.php?u=8430) and all thank YOU for supporting Chen Jin!!! Again, I'm very proud of him. Jia You! :)

[DinkAlot]

S4MadMan (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/member.php?u=8430) and all thank YOU for supporting Chen Jin!!! Again, I'm very proud of him. Jia You! :)

You're welcome Yannie. After watching CJ play a few times, how can one not support him? :p :D

I predict CJ will be # 1 in 2 years. :p

[yannie]

You're welcome Yannie. After watching CJ play a few times, how can one not support him? :p :D

I predict CJ will be # 1 in 2 years. :p

Hahaha no, in 2 days :p

[DinkAlot]

Hahaha no, in 2 days :p

LOL! We have to be realistic, he's # 20ish right now, will take about a year of winning (2007) to get to the top plus a cushion of another year of playing on the circuit to get up to his full potential (2006). So I say 2008 is the Year of The Chen Jin. :p

And it'll probably be Year of the Chen Jin for at least 4-5 years. At least I hope. :D

[yannie]

LOL! We have to be realistic, he's # 20ish right now, will take about a year of winning (2007) to get to the top plus a cushion of another year of playing on the circuit to get up to his full potential (2006). So I say 2008 is the Year of The Chen Jin. :p

And it'll probably be Year of the Chen Jin for at least 4-5 years. At least I hope. :D

Ok la, I'm realistic now! But I strongly believe that he'll be #1 soon :D You say 2008? Olympic Champion.. weeeee!

[DinkAlot]

Ok la, I'm realistic now! But I strongly believe that he'll be #1 soon :D You say 2008? Olympic Champion.. weeeee!

Olympic Champion? But of course; please pass the Grey Poupon. :p :D

[KaSoon]

I have a feeling LD wants to avoid Gade, because Gade is slowly figuring his game out.... I think it might be LYB's little nasty advice, telling him to avoid him since they have met each other so many times this past 2 years, and Gade is slowly surpassing him.. who knows:D:D LYB IS EVIL! lol


To prove they are No.1 or one of the best players, I think they shall dare to face any of their opponents no matter they are in the good or bad condition.
They should try their best in the match UNLESS they are really INJURED or SICK!!!

[KaSoon]

I am kinda beginning to suspect Lin Dan is going to become another Taufik (in terms of attitude towards winning). Both have the tendency to lose games easily as and when they like it (like today for Lin Dan), without giving much fight. This year alone, counting today's defeat, Lin Dan has had 4 bad defeats, those in which he did not really bother fighting. 2 to Taufik in the Singapore Open and WC, 1 to LCW (this is more ridiculous....losing after such a big lead), and today's toothless performance against Chen Hong. I think it all boils down to MOTIVATION!

And YES, I don't really like both players. I prefer Sony, who is more down to earth. Chen Jin is also fast becoming my favorite Chinese player after an awesome display this week.

My personal observation : Lin Dan and Taufik is a bit arrogant especially Lin Dan is a bit tyrant. I only admire their game skills. I think a good player should learn to be humble & polite.
I prefer Bao Chun Lai & Chen Jin. Both of them are cordial

[2cents]

So many people like Chen Jin, amazing! :eek:

Chen Jin came from the same town as Yang yang, Zhao Jianhua, Sun Jun...
I lived in that city when I was a little kid. But from my close observation, I don't like Chen Jin that much. There is nothing wrong with Chen Jin, if there is anything wrong, that could be my prejudices.

Chen Jin is a nice guy, but he does not have the charisma of a superstar. Further, he looks not that healthy, at least looks much older than his age. What you guys think? I do think Lin Dan and Taufic are two natural born stars.

[kwun]

deleted a bunch of inappropriate posts. i hope in the future member can post with more maturity and respect to players.

[event]

Hi all, I've been looking high and low for a schedule of tonight's matches. No luck but I did stumble across a bunch of highlight clips from yesterday's games. They include matches that weren't on Court 3 (ie not televised).

Check them out:

http://sports.163.com/special/z/00051M7D/zggksspft.html

I used this handy tool to interpret some of the titles I couldn't guess at:

http://babelfish.altavista.com

For example, this (http://sports.163.com/05/1112/02/22AU9RK000051M97.html) is the Bao/Lee match and this (http://sports.163.com/05/1112/03/22B21S1S00051M97.html) is Mia vs. Xie.

[DinkAlot]

So many people like Chen Jin, amazing! :eek:

Chen Jin is a nice guy, but he does not have the charisma of a superstar.

Exactly! :D CJ is a nice guy. I for one don't want a charismatic "superstar". I want a humble, unassuming, nice guy to be # 1.

CJ is my guy. At least I'm betting on him. I hope and pray he stays true to the path. :)

[DinkAlot]

deleted a bunch of inappropriate posts. i hope in the future member can post with more maturity and respect to players.

I'm glad I was playing badminton and missed it. :p :D