Predictions in bold as usual.

MEN'S SINGLES

Lin Dan vs Chen Hong -- match of the day
Kuan Beng Hong vs Peter Gade
Lee Hyun-Il vs Bao Chunlai
Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin

--expecting yet another long match between Lin and Gade on Saturday night.

WOMEN'S SINGLES

Zhang Ning vs Yao Jie
Wang Chen vs Chen Li
Susan Hughes vs Wang Yihan
Mia Audina Tjiptawan vs Xie Xingfang -- match of the day

MEN'S DOUBLES

Candra/Sigit vs Zheng Bo/Xu Chen
Paaske/Rasmussen vs Fu/Cai -- match of the day
Laybourn/Steffensen vs Luluk/Alven
Jung/Han vs Eriksen/Lundgaard Hansen

-- farewell tournament for Paaske/Rasmussen...can they go out on a high by beating Fu/Cai ?

WOMEN'S DOUBLES

Yang/Zhang vs Emms/Kellogg
Lee/Lee vs Jo/Greysia -- match of the day
Wei/Zhang vs Zhang/Zhang
Tripp/Nicholas vs Gao/Huang

-- hoping for another surprise win from the Indonesian no 1 pair.

MIXED DOUBLES

Nova/Lilyana vs Zheng/Zhao
Clark/Kellogg vs Robertson/Emms
Eriksen/Schjoldager vs Xie/Zhang -- match of the day
Shirley/Runesten-Petersen vs Lee/Lee

I must agree with your predictions, though some of the matches will be very tight!! :)

still wish for indonesian WD

Oops...left out this one :rolleyes:

Paaske/Rasmussen vs Fu/Cai -- match of the day

Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin

Wong Choong Hann Boleh ~! :p

Hahaha... exciting day tmr.. quite a no. of 50-50 matches...:D

but, wat time does the matches start tmr? :confused:

Oops...left out this one :rolleyes:

Paaske/Rasmussen vs Fu/Cai -- match of the day


another day of no sleep :o

I agree with you... but Cai/Fu will win

Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin




Well, I say this one going to be an interesting match. Chen Jin has the home crowd behind him, but WCH loves CHN Open, and can feel quite comfortable as well... :rolleyes:

Well, I say this one going to be an interesting match. Chen Jin has the home crowd behind him, but WCH loves CHN Open, and can feel quite comfortable as well... :rolleyes:

go lin dan! go choong hann! go hyun-il! :p

Im looking forward to tomorrows matches... I would love to see a rematch between lin and gade even if I think Lin will win in straight sets because of plying on homeground. Gade has proven very strongly that he is back and with his very close defeat to Lin last week and the only one troubling shoved us that he can win the big titles... Also look forward to see Bao-Lee. Lee is like day and night but lately he has been very strong.

Well, I say this one going to be an interesting match. Chen Jin has the home crowd behind him, but WCH loves CHN Open, and can feel quite comfortable as well... :rolleyes:

Sorry, it is off the topic, can WCH speak Cantonese or Mandarin?

Sorry, it is off the topic, can WCH speak Cantonese or Mandarin?

he can speak both

he can speak both

Thanks. Yannie :)

he can speak both

what language is used between Malaysia players or in their training?

I am not anti-chinese but I just hope that there are no Chinese in the semifinal other than Lin Dan/Chen Hong.. I'm kinda fed up with Chinese domination.

what language is used between Malaysia players or in their training?

I dunno, but I jsut guess depends on which player they are talking to.
For example, I guess Choong Tan Fook(fr. Ipoh) will speak Cantonese with Koo Kien Keat(fr. Ipoh), but speak Mandarin to Lee Chong Wei(fr. Penang), speak Malay to Hafiz, and English to Park Joo Bong.

I dunno, but I jsut guess depends on which player they are talking to.
For example, I guess Choong Tan Fook(fr. Ipoh) will speak Cantonese with Koo Kien Keat(fr. Ipoh), but speak Mandarin to Lee Chong Wei(fr. Penang), speak Malay to Hafiz, and English to Park Joo Bong.

wow, truly multilingual, should be a language coach also

Can someone post the MS MD schedules? I can't open the link thru worldbadminton.net . I realy dont want to miss the matches!!

wow, truly multilingual, should be a language coach also

Lots of malaysians are multi-lingual, especially the ethnic Chinese

[QUOTE=badMania]Predictions in bold as usual.

MEN'S SINGLES

Lin Dan vs Chen Hong -- match of the day
Kuan Beng Hong vs Peter Gade
Lee Hyun-Il vs Bao Chunlai
Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin

--expecting yet another long match between Lin and Gade on Saturday night.

I don't think the match of the day will be between Lin and Chen since they are comptratroits. If Chen (or Lin but not likely Lin) actually tries to play like how he did during the 05 AE then we would have a good match. If Chen takes Lin out, Peter's chance of winning the tournament is incrased substantially.

I think the match of the day is between Lee Hyun-Il and Bao Chunlai while all the others should be good to watch also.

what language is used between Malaysia players or in their training?

yeah i watched them train.. its kinda funny sometimes they speak all five langs/dialects with each other.

/.../
Paaske/Rasmussen vs Fu/Cai -- match of the day


I'm suspect this will be the last match for JR/Lars. Jonas has a neck injury, and it was obviously they were struggling badly against Logosz/Mateusiak, a pair they normally beat without hardly breaking a sweat. :(

yeah i watched them train.. its kinda funny sometimes they speak all five langs/dialects with each other.

Sounds typical... Malay/English/Mandarin/Cantonese/Hokkien?

yeah i watched them train.. its kinda funny sometimes they speak all five langs/dialects with each other.

Yea...Malaysian chinese can speak many languages.Hm....Im so proud...haha.
Lee Wan Wah can spaeks in chinese right ?? but he cant write in chinese.Same with kkk...:)

Sounds typical... Malay/English/Mandarin/Cantonese/Hokkien?

That's one heck of an accent. ;) :p :D

Very impressive though. :D

Sounds typical... Malay/English/Mandarin/Cantonese/Hokkien?

It sounds like that people from small countries are all language expert. I bet Danes can speak Danish, English, Faroese, and German. Some of them may have to speak Greenlandic also. 5 languages too, exactly same number of languages Malaysians can speak. while people from big countries, like Americans can only speak English, and most Chinese from China (not from Malaysia) can only speak Chinese. Small countries are the driving force of the world.

Small countries are the driving force of the world.

Nice quote. :) Sounds like something an economist or philosopher would say. :D

Just hope that Lin Dan vs Chen Hong match will be played in a true sportmen spirit. It will sound suspicious if anyone of them withdraw due to injury again.
Lets see.

I am not anti-chinese but I just hope that there are no Chinese in the semifinal other than Lin Dan/Chen Hong.. I'm kinda fed up with Chinese domination.


i am not agreed with you..is not Chinese players dominate the game BUT other players should self-criticism why they lost the game!

i am not agreed with you..is not Chinese players dominate the game BUT other players should self-criticism why they lost the game!

I wanna see Chen Jin win the whole enchilada! :D

Im after any pics of my old buddies .. Anthony Clark & Nathan Robertson .. who coincedentally play each other today !!

Good result for Ant beating Zhang & Gao ...

Nathan Robertson

You mean the pirate? "Arrrrrrgh matey!" ;) :p :D

Nat can play, he's awesome! :D

I wanna see Chen Jin win the whole enchilada! :D

Chen Jin is very good, young & matured player. You can see this when he played with Jonassen, even he is lag behind 0:8 but he pursued to 10:10 & win 15:10 in 1st game.

For me, I wanna see Bao Chun Lai overcome any opponents in final game & win the championship. He is a very good player, only he lack of confident & not be firm enough especially when he meet Lin Dan. If he can accelerate his speed & strengthen his psychology, i think he can win the championship in this tournament.

If both Bao & Chen Jin win in the quarter final, they will meet in semi final !!!

My predictions:

MS
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Kuan Beng Hong vs Peter Gade
Lee Hyun-Il vs Bao Chunlai -- match of the day
Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin

WS
Zhang Ning vs Yao Jie
Wang Chen vs Chen Li
Susan Hughes vs Wang Yihan
Mia Audina Tjiptawan vs Xie Xingfang -- match of the day

MD
Candra/Sigit vs Zheng Bo/Xu Chen
Paaske/Rasmussen vs Fu/Cai -- match of the day
Laybourn/Steffensen vs Luluk/Alven
Jung/Han vs Eriksen/Lundgaard Hansen

WD
Yang/Zhang vs Emms/Kellogg
Lee/Lee vs Jo/Greysia
Wei/Zhao vs Zhang/Zhang -- match of the day
Tripp/Nicholas vs Gao/Huang

XD
Nova/Lilyana vs Zheng/Zhao
Clark/Kellogg vs Robertson/Emms
Eriksen/Schjoldager vs Xie/Zhang -- match of the day
Shirley/Runesten-Petersen vs Lee/Lee

My predictions:

MS
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Kuan Beng Hong vs Peter Gade
Lee Hyun-Il vs Bao Chunlai -- match of the day
Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin

WS
Zhang Ning vs Yao Jie
Wang Chen vs Chen Li
Susan Hughes vs Wang Yihan
Mia Audina Tjiptawan vs Xie Xingfang -- match of the day

MD
Candra/Sigit vs Zheng Bo/Xu Chen
Paaske/Rasmussen vs Fu/Cai -- match of the day
Laybourn/Steffensen vs Luluk/Alven
Jung/Han vs Eriksen/Lundgaard Hansen

WD
Yang/Zhang vs Emms/Kellogg
Lee/Lee vs Jo/Greysia
Wei/Zhao vs Zhang/Zhang -- match of the day
Tripp/Nicholas vs Gao/Huang

XD
Nova/Lilyana vs Zheng/Zhao
Clark/Kellogg vs Robertson/Emms
Eriksen/Schjoldager vs Xie/Zhang -- match of the day
Shirley/Runesten-Petersen vs Lee/Lee


I have same prediction with you EXCEPT Lee Hyun Iii vs Bao Chun Lai, I predict Bao will win.
I think Wong Chong Hann vs Chen Jin also match of the day.

My predictions:

MS
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Kuan Beng Hong vs Peter Gade
Lee Hyun-Il vs Bao Chunlai
Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin-- match of the day

WS
Zhang Ning vs Yao Jie
Wang Chen vs Chen Li-- match of the day
Susan Hughes vs Wang Yihan
Mia Audina Tjiptawan vs Xie Xingfang

MD
Candra/Sigit vs Zheng Bo/Xu Chen -- match of the day
Paaske/Rasmussen vs Fu/Cai
Laybourn/Steffensen vs Luluk/Alven
Jung/Han vs Eriksen/Lundgaard Hansen

WD
Yang/Zhang vs Emms/Kellogg
Lee/Lee vs Jo/Greysia
Wei/Zhao vs Zhang/Zhang -- match of the day
Tripp/Nicholas vs Gao/Huang

XD
Nova/Lilyana vs Zheng/Zhao-- match of the day
Clark/Kellogg vs Robertson/Emms
Eriksen/Schjoldager vs Xie/Zhang
Shirley/Runesten-Petersen vs Lee/Lee

WCH vs Chen Jin will be very close match if both are on their best form.
however....sorry yannie....but i hope choong hann will win or else m'sia will not have any more representatives in this event.
go!go!go! choong hann.
you can repeat what you did in denmark open.

Aku pun setuju Choong Hann can beat Chen Jin. Street set. MALAYSIA B O L E H ! ! !! ! ! !....:p



WCH vs Chen Jin will be very close match if both are on their best form.
however....sorry yannie....but i hope choong hann will win or else m'sia will not have any more representatives in this event.
go!go!go! choong hann.
you can repeat what you did in denmark open.

Mia will beating Xie....

Hoping Jo/Greysia win the match

MEN SINGLE FINAL : Lin Dan Vs Wong Choong Hann



[QUOTE=2cents]My predictions:

MS
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Kuan Beng Hong vs Peter Gade
Lee Hyun-Il vs Bao Chunlai
Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin-- match of the day

No one updating the results?

The results of the two 1pm matches,

Eriksen/Lungaard Hansen bt Jin/Han - 15-6, 15-8
Zhang Ning bt Yao Jie - 11-4, 5-11, 11-8

No one updating the results?Zheng/Zhao 10, Nova/Lilyana 8

mm, would u plz keep post the update... for nova/liliana. Is their match broadcasting?





Zheng/Zhao 10, Nova/Lilyana 8

Zheng/Zhao 10, Nova/Lilyana 8First game to Zheng/Zhao 15-9. It's on GDTV (synacast://09jN1+TK3K3nn6qbo6iem9uS1KOcy6OZo9WcltiXpdSZyq/H0qTQyqee1qXO5pzQ363hzebZqp+b1d/IpJ7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/Io57f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/Iop7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/IoZ7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoJbayuPKrSlPHyExVUNpo6iVp aKnsNrZ5p3f2eXX5OOmmqaYo+0=) now. Get PPLive version 1.0.9.7 (http://pplive.com/download/PPLiveSetup1.0.9.7.exe)

First game to Zheng/Zhao 15-9. It's on GDTV (synacast://09jN1+TK3K3nn6qbo6iem9uS1KOcy6OZo9WcltiXpdSZyq/H0qTQyqee1qXO5pzQ363hzebZqp+b1d/IpJ7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/Io57f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/Iop7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoKvhzebZqp+b1d/IoZ7f4uTG09Hf3aTI392moaaVoJbayuPKrSlPHyExVUNpo6iVp aKnsNrZ5p3f2eXX5OOmmqaYo+0=) now. Get PPLive version 1.0.9.7 (http://pplive.com/download/PPLiveSetup1.0.9.7.exe)ZB/ZTT leading 2-1 in 2nd

ZB/ZTT leading 2-1 in 2ndlooks like Xie/Audina game finished in adjacent court. Don't know who won. Lee/Lee getting ready to beat NZ pair in mixed in that court.

looks like Xie/Audina game finished in adjacent court. Don't know who won. Lee/Lee getting ready to beat NZ pair in mixed in that court.Indonesia up 4-3

Indonesia up 4-35-5. Live score website doesn't have results of Xie vs. Mia yet but since it was so quick, I'm guessing Xie took it easily.

Anybody know who won this one & what the score was ??

5-5. Live score website doesn't have results of Xie vs. Mia yet but since it was so quick, I'm guessing Xie took it easily.Zheng/Zhao up 8-5

Anybody know who won this one & what the score was ??I think I see them playing now in the adjacent court.
CHN vs. INA tied at 8:8

Go Zheng/Zhao!

Whew, good thing I didn't go back to the books..... :)

I think I see them playing now in the adjacent court.
CHN vs. INA tied at 8:8China 11:9 over Indonesia

5-5. Live score website doesn't have results of Xie vs. Mia yet but since it was so quick, I'm guessing Xie took it easily.Yeah. Results (http://sports.163.com/special/y/00051M79/ymqzggkbf.html) finally up Xie took it 11-4,11-5.

Indonesia back on top 12-11.

Indonesia back on top 12-11.Lilyana serving for the game at 14-11
No luck

Can somebody kindly re-enlighten me as to which of the channels is GD-TV on the PPstream list? It's been a while since I've used it.

Lilyana serving for the game at 14-11
No luck14 all second service

14 all second serviceNZL took one game from Korea in XD. Dont' know score.

Come on Indo!!!! GOGOGO!!!

NZL took one game from Korea in XD. Dont' know score.Back to INA at 15-14. Now second serve.

Back to INA at 15-14. Now second serve.4 lost serves in a row. Back to INA at 15-14.

4 lost serves in a row. Back to INA at 15-14.15-all finally.

15-all finally.China wins 15-9,17-15.

Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting. New force to be reckoned with or flash in the pan?

More importantly, how dare they screw up my predictions? :)

Anybody know who won this one & what the score was ?? Looks like Robertson/Emms won 15:8, 15:5.

clark/kellogg lost 8-15, 5-15

China wins 15-9,17-15.

:eek::eek:..cctv5 is 2-3 mins slower than GDTV..and even GDTV not really real time:eek::eek:..it is 1 or 2 mins slower:rolleyes: than the real time

China wins 15-9,17-15.

OMG....... Nova/Lilyana LOST !!! :crying: :crying: :crying:

Can somebody kindly re-enlighten me as to which of the channels is GD-TV on the PPstream list? It's been a while since I've used it.3 ways to access here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=306657&postcount=24)

:eek::eek:..cctv5 is 2-3 mins slower than GDTV..and even GDTV not really real time:eek::eek:..it is 1 or 2 mins slower:rolleyes: than the real time

Hmmm, how come I only see golf on CCTV-5 right now, LOL??

what bout the kiwis?
i really want them to win just like they did at WC

:eek::eek:..cctv5 is 2-3 mins slower than GDTV..and even GDTV not really real time:eek::eek:..it is 1 or 2 mins slower:rolleyes: than the real timeIt's closer to real time than the supposed live score (http://sports.163.com/special/y/00051M79/ymqzggkbf.html) site.

3 ways to access here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=306657&postcount=24)

Only prob is I only see weird characters, not the actual chinese characters. I was able to guess the right one before but now it's.....!

Hmmm, how come I only see golf on CCTV-5 right now, LOL??

cctv 5 isn't broadcasting badminton for the afternoon match

what bout the kiwis?
i really want them to win just like they did at WCWell last glimpse I got of the Court 2 scoreboard, the Kiwis were up 1-0(game score).

Only prob is I only see weird characters, not the actual chinese characters. I was able to guess the right one before but now it's.....!Then change your browser encoding or click on the SYnacast link.

Right now, I see it 5 below the CCTV-5(800K) link and 2 above the CCTV-1 link on the http://pplive.com/source.shtml page.

Then change your browser encoding or click on the SYnacast link.Fu/Cai up 5-2 in first game.

MS
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Kuan Beng Hong vs Peter Gade
Lee Hyun Il vs Bao Chunlai
Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin

WS
Zhang Ning bt Yao Jie 11-4, 5-11, 11-8
Wang Chen vs Chen Li
Susan Hughes vs Wang Yihan
Xie Xingfang bt Mia Audina Tjiptawan 11-4, 11-5

MD
Candra/Sigit vs Zheng Bo/Xu Chen
Paaske/Rasmussen vs Fu/Cai
Laybourn/Steffensen vs Luluk/Alven
Eriksen/Lundgaard Hansen bt Jung/Han 15-6, 15-8

WD
Yang/Zhang vs Emms/Kellogg
Lee/Lee vs Novita/Polii
Wei/Zhao vs Zhang/Zhang
Tripp/Nicholas vs Gao/Huang

XD
Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting bt Widianto/Natsir 15-9, 17-15
Robertson/Emms bt Clark/Kellogg 15-8, 15-5
Eriksen/Schjoldager vs Xie/Zhang
Shirley/Runesten-Petersen vs Lee/Lee

www.tvsou.com/nettv.asp (http://www.tvsou.com/nettv.asp)
if u can't read chinese ..click 3rd choice from the top for GDTV

Fu/Cai up 12-2!

Well last glimpse I got of the Court 2 scoreboard, the Kiwis were up 1-0(game score).Tied at 1 game apiece. Don't know scores of games, though.

Gah, no wonder. I had PPstream installed and those links were for PPlive!!

Fu/Cai up 12-2!Fu/Cai up 14-3. game point

Gah, no wonder. I had PPstream installed and those links were for PPlive!!If it's been a while, make sure you get 1.0.9.7 of PPLive (http://pplive.com/download/PPLiveSetup1.0.9.7.exe)from teh Chinese download page.

Fu/Cai up 14-3. game pointANOTHER GAME POINT AT 14-6

ANOTHER GAME POINT AT 14-6Game Fu/Cai 15-7.

Later folks. Time to get some acupuncture. Someone else will have to keep these updates going.

Thanks for ur updates and help with streaming.

Let's go JR!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's go JR!!!!!!!!!!!4-2 Denmark in the second. Okay, I'm really going now.

denmark 4: 2 lead in the 2nd set

4-2 Denmark in the second. Okay, I'm really going now.

are you sure?? ;)

JR/LP have lost that fighting spirit. let's go guys. you can win your last tournametn together!

5 : 2 second server to denmark

4 : 6 second serve ..china

china 4 : 6 denmark ..first server china

Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting. New force to be reckoned with or flash in the pan?

More importantly, how dare they screw up my predictions? :)

well, no wonder Zheng Bo/ ZhaoTingting colud win, they speciality are pair, so in future other countries should be careful if China have a new pair MD,even they a new one.....never look down on new player from China:)

sorry folks, i am new to pplive. i heard that if you tuned into the channel where most people are viewing, you will have clearer pics. I am now tuned into GDTV. Is GDTV the right channel? The reason i asked is becos the pics on GDTV is lagging..pls help.

china 6 : 6 denmark 2nd server china

what bout kiwis?

sorry folks, i am new to pplive. i heard that if you tuned into the channel where most people are viewing, you will have clearer pics. I am now tuned into GDTV. Is GDTV the right channel? The reason i asked is becos the pics on GDTV is lagging..pls help.

cctv5 has better quality pic than GDTV..but cctv5 doesn' broadcast badminton this afternoon..yup GDTV is right channel

denmark 7 : 6 china ..2nd server

May I know when is the match between Chen Jin and Choong Hann? :confused: ;)

denmark 9 : 6 china ..2nd server

May I know when is the match between Chen Jin and Choong Hann? :confused: ;)

19 :50 on court 2

anyone knows who won between Shirley/Runesten-Petersen vs Lee/Lee???

denmark 9 : 7 china first server

10-7 Danmark. that's more like it! Go JONAS!

cctv5 has better quality pic than GDTV..but cctv5 doesn' broadcast badminton this afternoon..yup GDTV is right channel

Thanks!:)...................

china 7 : 9 denmark 2nd server

denmark 11 : 7 china first server

anyone knows who won between Shirley/Runesten-Petersen vs Lee/Lee???

that really depends on how Lee Hyo Jung feel that day.

anyone knows who won between Shirley/Runesten-Petersen vs Lee/Lee???


i wanna know too

that really depends on how Lee Hyo Jung feel that day.

huh? I think the game is already finished is it?

denmark 12 : 7 china 2nd server..

go go go denmark

huh? I think the game is already finished is it?

the game is over..but don't know the score :cool: candra and sigit are playing now

china 9 : 12 denmark 2nd server

Danmark won 2nd set...

huh? I think the game is already finished is it?

ops. yes. i should've used past tense... :P

MS
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Kuan Beng Hong vs Peter Gade
Lee Hyun Il vs Bao Chunlai
Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin

WS
Zhang Ning bt Yao Jie 11-4, 5-11, 11-8
Wang Chen vs Chen Li
Susan Hughes vs Wang Yihan
Xie Xingfang bt Mia Audina Tjiptawan 11-4, 11-5

MD
Candra/Sigit vs Zheng Bo/Xu Chen
Paaske/Rasmussen vs Fu/Cai
Laybourn/Steffensen vs Luluk/Alven
Eriksen/Lundgaard Hansen bt Jung/Han 15-6, 15-8

WD
Yang/Zhang vs Emms/Kellogg
Lee/Lee vs Novita/Polii
Wei/Zhao vs Zhang/Zhang
Tripp/Nicholas vs Gao/Huang

XD
Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting bt Widianto/Natsir 15-9, 17-15
Robertson/Emms bt Clark/Kellogg 15-8, 15-5
Eriksen/Schjoldager vs Xie/Zhang
Lee/Lee bt Shirley/Runesten-Petersen 13-15, 15-4, 15-4

denmark 15 : 9 china

koreans won.....

Yucks.

Cai/Fu's defense just kept deteriorating in the 2nd set that it became atrocious at the end.

They've gotta get on the offensive to win the third.

i managed to see the score on the Candra/Sigit vs. ZhengBo/?? match. 6-11

denmark scored first 2 points

Yucks.

Cai/Fu's defense just kept deteriorating in the 2nd set that it became atrocious at the end.

so is my connection speed.... :crying:

denmark 3 : 1 china 2nd server

candra /sigit 8 : 12 zeng/sun

Go Chinese MD pairs!

candra / sigit lead 13 : 12

denmark 7 : 3 china 2nd server

candra / sigit won the first game

what if JR and lars do well in china open, would they think about separating?

candra /sigit lead 2 :0 in the 2nd set

wow...luluk and alven are certainly on form..
they beat tan fook/wan wah yesterday and today they beat thomas/peter
both in straight games

now that's a funny coach. JR/LP's coach was wearing team jacket, a camouflage pair of shorts, and sandals. looks like he just came back from the beach...

denmark 8 : 7 china ..denmark scored 8 points first

11-7 Denmark. JR/LP are quite hot right now.

denmark 11 : 7 china 2nd server

go denmark!!!! 4 more pts to win!

12-8 Denmark 2nd server.

JR/LP are making all the right shots right now. can they pull it off in Cai/Fu's homeground??

12 : 8 denmark ...go go go denmark

a smash by JR nad match point!

14 : 8 2nd server denmark

they made it!!

a back hand drive went out by Fu.

JR/LP hugs and shakes hand with Cai/Fu.

denmark won 2-1 against china

denmark won cai/fu 15-8!!

Yeah~~ Good job JR!!!!

Time to bed, good night everybody :)

12 : 8 denmark ...go go go denmark


go JR/LP!!!!!
you'll win this

That was a terrible 2nd and 3rd game for the chinese. Fu was making way too many errors. JR was awesome infront of the net. Very fast reactions.

The Dane's experience and composure prevailed! Good job!

Now, any updates on the other MD match?

ALRIGHT!!!!

they are showing the Wang Yihan match... ;)

the young angel wang yihan is on the camera court now:rolleyes:

ALRIGHT!!!!

they are showing the Wang Yihan match... ;)

imho, this is the girl to watch for 2012, or maybe even 2008.

Nooo Cai/Fu!!!:crying:

candra / sigit won 2nd set 15 : 8

imho, this is the girl to watch for 2012, or maybe even 2008.

a bit of a wobbly start of the first game.

eh? isn't the British WS coach, coach Luo? how come Hughes is watched by a caucasian guy? not sure who he is.

Fu HF made too many unforced errors today...sigh...

Wang Yihan is on the court now...let's cheer for her!

anyone know result of Wang Chen vs Chen Li's match?

eh? isn't the British WS coach, coach Luo? how come Hughes is watched by a caucasian guy? not sure who he is.

ops. she is from Scotland. my sincere apologies...

MS
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Kuan Beng Hong vs Peter Gade
Lee Hyun Il vs Bao Chunlai
Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin

WS
Zhang Ning bt Yao Jie 11-4, 5-11, 11-8
Wang Chen vs Chen Li
Susan Hughes vs Wang Yihan
Xie Xingfang bt Mia Audina Tjiptawan 11-4, 11-5

MD
Candra/Sigit vs Zheng Bo/Xu Chen
Paaske/Rasmussen bt Fu/Cai 7-15, 15-9, 15-8
Luluk/Alven bt Laybourn/Steffensen 15-12, 15-13
Eriksen/Lundgaard Hansen bt Jung/Han 15-6, 15-8

WD
Yang/Zhang vs Emms/Kellogg
Lee/Lee vs Novita/Polii
Wei/Zhao vs Zhang/Zhang
Tripp/Nicholas vs Gao/Huang

XD
Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting bt Widianto/Natsir 15-9, 17-15
Robertson/Emms bt Clark/Kellogg 15-8, 15-5
Eriksen/Schjoldager vs Xie/Zhang
Lee/Lee bt Shirley/Runesten-Petersen 13-15, 15-4, 15-4

WYH has found her rhythm now. a slow starter. 6-3 WYH.

wang lead first game 6 : 3

Wang YH took the 1st set 11:5

wang yihan won first game 11 : 5

give this girl 3 more years. 3 more well groomed and hard working years, she will be replacing XXF. and they will have the same body build and the same playing style.

give this girl 3 more years. 3 more well groomed and hard working years, she will be replacing XXF. and they will have the same body build and the same playing style.

yup...3 yrs later XXF replacing ZN to be world #1 & then Wang YH become world #2....:p

yup...3 yrs later XXF replacing ZN to be world #1 & then Wang YH become world #2....:p

i believe wang yihan is world # 1 instead xxf

ok ok people.......
whats the score now?

england lead in 2nd set 8 : 3 wang yihan

MS
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Kuan Beng Hong vs Peter Gade
Lee Hyun Il vs Bao Chunlai
Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin

WS
Zhang Ning bt Yao Jie 11-4, 5-11, 11-8
Wang Chen bt Chen Li - not sure of score
Susan Hughes vs Wang Yihan
Xie Xingfang bt Mia Audina Tjiptawan 11-4, 11-5

MD (It's Indonesia v Denmark)
Candra/Sigit bt Zheng Bo/Xu Chen 15-13, 15-6
Paaske/Rasmussen bt Fu/Cai 7-15, 15-9, 15-8
Luluk/Alven bt Laybourn/Steffensen 15-12, 15-13
Eriksen/Lundgaard Hansen bt Jung/Han 15-6, 15-8

WD
Yang/Zhang vs Emms/Kellogg
Lee/Lee vs Novita/Polii
Wei/Zhao vs Zhang/Zhang
Tripp/Nicholas vs Gao/Huang

XD
Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting bt Widianto/Natsir 15-9, 17-15
Robertson/Emms bt Clark/Kellogg 15-8, 15-5
Eriksen/Schjoldager vs Xie/Zhang
Lee/Lee bt Shirley/Runesten-Petersen 13-15, 15-4, 15-4

saw Xie/Zhang warming up in the other court. so no live broadcast of the XD game... :(

WYH lost the first 1/2 of teh 2nd set coz she didn't make use of the full extend of teh court.

in the 2nd 1/2. she started to hit shot closers to the lines and making hughes move more, and now she is gaining back the 2nd game.

9-5 hughes service

Susan Hughes took the 2nd set..11:5

hey! this scotland girl playing quite gd...quite surprise abt this

i believe wang yihan is world # 1 instead xxf

I prefer Wang Lin as future world #1 after watched them play in Final AJBC 2005 (Wang Lin beat Wang Yihan), and semi Final match, Wang Lin def. Yip Pui Yin (HKG), why she lost to Yip in here ?

Wang Lin didn't play well in Denmark Open also, is she still tired after play in National Games ?

Another name who posible to be world#1 is Lu lan, also didn't play well in Denmark & China Open. :confused:

I thaught Wang Lin or Lu lan aren't in good form to play in China Open.

11 - 5 hughes won the 2nd set

WYH stop hitting to your opponent, make her run! the badminton gods gave you such a large area, so make the full use of it!

denmark lead 7-4 china xie/zhang

174 online users on BC right now... :eek:

hi all !

4-4 Hughes service.

WYH hairpin catches the net, WYH service

Fu and Cai lost!:crying:

Looks like China can only win 4 of 5.

I was hoping for a repeat of HK Open. All China Final winners.:D

Looks like Li Yongbo will lecture Fu/Cai and make them train harder, not to disappoint the team and be the weak link and setting a bad example losing in front of home crowd.:eek:

Hughes has good shots when she has the time to prepare and react. WYH shouldn't lift to the center and give her time.

on the other hand, WYH is faster, so Hughes shouldn't give her the opportunity to outspeed her.

Yeah~~ Good job JR!!!!Wow! That first game was a blowout. I did see a lot more life (and control and confidence) in the Danish pair at the beginning of the second but the win still surprises me.

denmark lead 11 : 5 over xie /zhang
i wish this one is on the camera court:o

hughes must be like double the weight of WYH. make use of that...

yeah. i was hoping to see the XD match also... ah well...

WYH leading 7-6 now. but she is showing a bit of fatigue.

hughes must be like double the weight of WYH. make use of that...7-6 for Wang. Beautiful crosscourt net shot by Hughes earlier.

I'm watching the match of Susan Hughes and it amazes me that she can get so far in China Open. I recall that she lost to Lili Zhou in 2004 U.S. Open 11-2, 11-2. Susan must either improved alot or just got a very lucky draw.

Wang YH should be kicking Susan's butt 11-0, 11-0.

hughes is a smart and efficient player. she often knows where to position herself.

denmark won the first set over xie/zhang 15 : 9

denmark won the first set over xie/zhang 15 : 9Hughes serves 7:9

Hughes serves 7:99:9. Hughes could take this.

9:9. Hughes could take this.Great net play by Hughes but match point.

hughes 9:9

Long rally and hughes misses a net drop.

Wang YH wins 11:9

hughes 9:9

Long rally and hughes misses a net drop.Wang wins 11:9.

wang yihan won 11 : 9:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

anyone know score for Xie/Zhang match?

Fu and Cai lost!:crying:

Looks like China can only win 4 of 5.

I was hoping for a repeat of HK Open. All China Final winners.:D

Looks like Li Yongbo will lecture Fu/Cai and make them train harder, not to disappoint the team and be the weak link and setting a bad example losing in front of home crowd.:eek:

i think china will only win 3 0f 5 (ms,ws,wd) :D

MD (It's Indonesia v Denmark)
Candra/Sigit bt Zheng Bo/Xu Chen 15-13, 15-6
Paaske/Rasmussen bt Fu/Cai 7-15, 15-9, 15-8
Luluk/Alven bt Laybourn/Steffensen 15-12, 15-13
Eriksen/Lundgaard Hansen bt Jung/Han 15-6, 15-8


Indonesia vs. Denmark - the least expected situation on China's own home soil after the fine run of the Chinese pairs in HK Open less than a week ago.

WYH needs to learn how to place the shuttle even when she is under pressure. she is fast and tall and have a few killer shots. but when the opponent isn't allowing her the time to make those shots, ie. when she is under pressure, she tend to make predictable safe placements, often lift to the center or drive to the center, which the opponent can easily manipulate.

she needs to stay calm and play smart. maybe take some risks. great players like Gong Zhichao is a master on playing smart and awesome placement even when she is under a lot of pressure.

i hope WYH will learn that as she gain more international experience. a year or two ago, XXF was a bit like her, she has all the skills but she doesn't know how to use them. but later when she matures a bit more, she become smarter and now look at where she is. WYH may be a bit less experienced than XXF then, but give her 2-3 years. she will be one of the top.

China still has two mixed doubles team, right? Xie/Zhang playing right now.



i think china will only win 3 0f 5 (ms,ws,wd) :D

anyone know score for Xie/Zhang match?

xie/zhang lost first set 9 : 15

So far, predictions for WS and MD are 100% :D

Semi-Final lineup:

WS:
Zhang Ning vs Wang Chen
Wang Yihan vs Xie Xingfang

MD:
Candra Wijaya/Sigit Budiarto vs Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen
Luluk Hadiyanto/Alven Yulianto vs Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen

-- both are 50-50 matches....it could be an all-Indo or all-Denmark final.
LP/JR could bid farewell with a much-anticipated match against arch-rival Candra/Sigit.

i think both of them deserve to win this match...though hughes lost this time but i wanna give a big clap to her!

no more badminton on GDTV:(

time to sleep

I'm watching the match of Susan Hughes and it amazes me that she can get so far in China Open. I recall that she lost to Lili Zhou in 2004 U.S. Open 11-2, 11-2. Susan must either improved alot or just got a very lucky draw.

Wang YH should be kicking Susan's butt 11-0, 11-0.

not so quick. Hughes is a decent player too. a bit slow, but she makes up with it by reading the game well. by the 2nd game, she was able to learn WYH's playing pattern and often knows where to position herself for the return. this is partly due to WYH's lack of experience and shot variation.

Hughes managed to keep up with the young and fast WYH throughout the match without showing much sign of fatigue. technique-wish she is decent but not silky smooth like some of the Chinese.

but in the end, WYH kept her fast pace and edges out in winning the match. frankly, until the last part of the 3rd game, it wasn't very clear to me who would be the winner.

China still has two mixed doubles team, right? Xie/Zhang playing right now.Right. There is no live scoring. The sports.163.com site is putting the results up about an hour after the end of the match. I think GDTV will be off the air soon, too, so no way of knowing what happens in that match until later. It was supposed to be on the centre court but they started playing it on Court 2: perhaps because the men's doubles and women's singles took so long.

:crying:

What is the score on the second game?

Xie/Zhang...go go go...win win win....

go world champs....:)

xie/zhang lost first set 9 : 15

would someone please update score?

Anyone from china?

WYH needs to learn how to place the shuttle even when she is under pressure. she is fast and tall and have a few killer shots. but when the opponent isn't allowing her the time to make those shots, ie. when she is under pressure, she tend to make predictable safe placements, often lift to the center or drive to the center, which the opponent can easily manipulate.

she needs to stay calm and play smart. maybe take some risks. great players like Gong Zhichao is a master on playing smart and awesome placement even when she is under a lot of pressure.

i hope WYH will learn that as she gain more international experience. a year or two ago, XXF was a bit like her, she has all the skills but she doesn't know how to use them. but later when she matures a bit more, she become smarter and now look at where she is. WYH may be a bit less experienced than XXF then, but give her 2-3 years. she will be one of the top.

wow u seem to place alot of hope on her. what about the other chinese female juniors, how do they compare to her?

i looked at her pic in the other thread. yeah i agree, she has the xxf body built. slim (almost too skinny) and tall (for ladies standard).

China still has two mixed doubles team, right? Xie/Zhang playing right now.

xie/zhang is about to lose to danes pair :D

i think it's hard for zheng/zhao to beat nathan/g.. :D

xie/zhang is about to lose to danes pair :D

i think it's hard for zheng/zhao to beat nathan/g.. :D

zheng /zhao won the game in 2 set 15 : 9 17 : 15

GDTV is showing food network.....:crying:

Where's badminton!!!!

Hmmmm......food looks really good.....me hungry too.

The lady is wearing plastic gloves while eating a chicken leg.....:eek:

Right. There is no live scoring. The sports.163.com site is putting the results up about an hour after the end of the match. I think GDTV will be off the air soon, too, so no way of knowing what happens in that match until later. It was supposed to be on the centre court but they started playing it on Court 2: perhaps because the men's doubles and women's singles took so long.My mistake. Tournament website says China already lost 6:15;8:15

GDTV is showing food network....The lady is wearing plastic gloves while eating a chicken legThanks for the update.

not so quick. Hughes is a decent player too. a bit slow, but she makes up with it by reading the game well. by the 2nd game, she was able to learn WYH's playing pattern and often knows where to position herself for the return. this is partly due to WYH's lack of experience and shot variation.

Hughes managed to keep up with the young and fast WYH throughout the match without showing much sign of fatigue. technique-wish she is decent but not silky smooth like some of the Chinese.

but in the end, WYH kept her fast pace and edges out in winning the match. frankly, until the last part of the 3rd game, it wasn't very clear to me who would be the winner.

Good to see Susan starting to get some good results on the world stage. She does quite well on the European circuit but never seems to get past the 2nd round of 'big' tournaments. She's always been amazingly talented - I played on the same county team as her when she was 15 and she would win most matches without conceding more than 2 or 3 points, against adults. Hopefully this result will get her into the top 20.

Xie/Zhang lost!!!!!!! so so sad.

All up to Zheng/Zhao. Hope they can win for China.

xie/zhang is about to lose to danes pair :D

i think it's hard for zheng/zhao to beat nathan/g.. :D
haha...i sense some anti-vibes there....

i think most people thought it would be hard for zheng/zhao to beat widianto/natsir but hey they did 2-0:p

but yes, nathan/emms will be big favourites.

wow u seem to place alot of hope on her. what about the other chinese female juniors, how do they compare to her?

i looked at her pic in the other thread. yeah i agree, she has the xxf body built. slim (almost too skinny) and tall (for ladies standard).

there aren't much opportunities to watch the few young Chinese WS players on match. often they lose in the earlier rounds and never get any TV time. this time around, however, we get to see Jiang, Wang Rong and Wang YH play. even though Jiang was the NC, out of the 3, i think WangYH has the best potential. as you said, good body build, speed, hardworking, shown good fighting spirit and kill instinct.

Jiang is also good but shuttle speed is slower. she is a more of a placement player from what i can tell. technique-wise she doesn't produce very sharp shots.

Wang Rong, despite being slow, i felt that she is kind of laid back. often happy to just keep the rally gonig and does work as hard as others in forming the rally. that's a valid style but imho not a winning style.

all are young, however, so by the time they mature, they will be taking the places of ZN, ZM, and probably XXF as well. XXF imho will be the last to retire while i don't thikn we will see ZhangN / ZhouM for more than a couple more years. these young ladies will have to be pushed up and will get more exposure at a younger age than the other used to.

zheng /zhao won the game in 2 set 15 : 9 17 : 15

nova/natsir always find a problem if they meet a new pair,

i believe if they meet zheng/zhao again, the result will be different :D

MS
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Kuan Beng Hong vs Peter Gade
Lee Hyun Il vs Bao Chunlai
Wong Choong Hann vs Chen Jin

WS
Zhang Ning bt Yao Jie 11-4, 5-11, 11-8
Wang Chen bt Chen Li - 11-8, ... not sure of score
Wang Yihan bt Susan Hughes 11-5, 5-11, 11-9
Xie Xingfang bt Mia Audina Tjiptawan 11-4, 11-5

MD (It's Indonesia v Denmark)
Candra/Sigit bt Zheng Bo/Xu Chen 15-13, 15-6
Paaske/Rasmussen bt Fu/Cai 7-15, 15-9, 15-8
Luluk/Alven bt Laybourn/Steffensen 15-12, 15-13
Eriksen/Lundgaard Hansen bt Jung/Han 15-6, 15-8

WD
Yang/Zhang vs Emms/Kellogg
Lee/Lee vs Novita/Polii
Wei/Zhao vs Zhang/Zhang
Tripp/Nicholas vs Gao/Huang

XD
Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting bt Widianto/Natsir 15-9, 17-15
Robertson/Emms bt Clark/Kellogg 15-8, 15-5
Eriksen/Schjoldager bt Xie/Zhang 15-6, 15-8
Lee/Lee bt Shirley/Runesten-Petersen 13-15, 15-4, 15-4

haha...i sense some anti-vibes there....

i think most people thought it would be hard for zheng/zhao to beat widianto/natsir but hey they did 2-0:p

but yes, nathan/emms will be big favourites.

sigh, i wish i had watched the ZB/ZTT vs. Widianto/Natsir match.

ZB/ZTT will be an interesting combination. ZB is a more offensive and also more tricky player than CQQ, ZTT's ex-partner. this may well be the boost that ZTT needs to make a mark in the XD circuit.

haha...i sense some anti-vibes there....

i think most people thought it would be hard for zheng/zhao to beat widianto/natsir but hey they did 2-0:p

but yes, nathan/emms will be big favourites.

no, i'm not spreading anti-vibes :D

nova/natsir always find a problem if they meet a new pair,

if they meet zheng/zhao again, the result will be different :D

I know Zheng/Zhao will win easily......new partners usually play together with new energy and lots of heart. They play very well together and compliments each others shots very well. Look for them in the first place.:)

They did just beat the world champs in two sets too.....:eek:


haha...i sense some anti-vibes there....

i think most people thought it would be hard for zheng/zhao to beat widianto/natsir but hey they did 2-0:p

but yes, nathan/emms will be big favourites.

Good to see Susan starting to get some good results on the world stage. She does quite well on the European circuit but never seems to get past the 2nd round of 'big' tournaments. She's always been amazingly talented - I played on the same county team as her when she was 15 and she would win most matches without conceding more than 2 or 3 points, against adults. Hopefully this result will get her into the top 20.

probably always get bad draw. it will be difficult not to run into one of the seeds on big tourneys. and while she can play a good tight against youngsters like WYH, she will have a much harder time against the seeds.

sigh, i wish i had watched the ZB/ZTT vs. Widianto/Natsir match.

ZB/ZTT will be an interesting combination. ZB is a more offensive and also more tricky player than CQQ, ZTT's ex-partner. this may well be the boost that ZTT needs to make a mark in the XD circuit.

but zheng bo is not good in md,

in china team, if a pair is not good in md, they change to play xd and become succesfull, i wonder why ?

example: zhan jun/zhan wei was the worst cina md ever :D, after zhan jun change to play xd he become successfull :D

XD
Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting bt Widianto/Natsir 15-9, 17-15
Robertson/Emms bt Clark/Kellogg 15-8, 15-5
Eriksen/Schjoldager bt Xie/Zhang 15-6, 15-8
Lee/Lee bt Shirley/Runesten-Petersen 13-15, 15-4, 15-4

a interesting result , both wc finalists are lost

but zheng bo is not good in md,

in china team, if a pair is not good in md, they change to play xd and become succesfull, i wonder why ?

example: zhan jun/zhan wei was the worst cina md ever :D, after zhan jun change to play xd he become successfull :D

If you play with a woman, you have more motivation.

nova/natsir always find a problem if they meet a new pair,

if they meet zheng/zhao again, the result will be different :D

Nova is once again the weak link in the partnership. In fact, they ALWAYS have difficulties in beating the really top pairs in XD like Lee/Lee, Robertson/Emms, Zhang/Gao and previously Chen/Zhao. This year alone, they have lost twice to each of the pair, except Zhang/Gao. Therefore, its not surprising to see them losing to Zheng/Zhao.

Although I am an Indonesian, I do think that they owe their WC victory mostly to the luck of the draw. Butet (Lilyana Natsir) needs a better partner to reinforce her position in the XD hierachy. Nova is definitely not going to be a long-term partner. Unfortunately, I can not think of any young player that can partner her in the long run.

Similarly, Anggun is also the weak link in the Anggun/Yunita partnership. He appears to be a little bit lazy and lack the aura of a top double player. On the other hand, Yunita is more hardworking and covers the ground better (despite her "chubby" appearance"). Either Flandy or Eng Hian could partner her and I am sure the result will be much better than the current pairing.

I believe the correct score in the Eriksen/Schjoldager bt Xie/Zhang is 15/5 15/9

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XD
Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting bt Widianto/Natsir 15-9, 17-15
Robertson/Emms bt Clark/Kellogg 15-8, 15-5
Eriksen/Schjoldager bt Xie/Zhang 15-6, 15-8
Lee/Lee bt Shirley/Runesten-Petersen 13-15, 15-4, 15-4

desparately waiting for MS to begin....well people...
i guess we'll have to wait for 55 more minutes
be patient people

a interesting result , both wc finalists are lost

not just that. the NZ'ers was 3rd. so 1st/2nd/3rd are out.

did the Thai's come to China Open?

Nova is once again the weak link in the partnership. In fact, they ALWAYS have difficulties in beating the really top pairs in XD like Lee/Lee, Robertson/Emms, Zhang/Gao and previously Chen/Zhao. This year alone, they have lost twice to each of the pair, except Zhang/Gao. Therefore, its not surprising to see them losing to Zheng/Zhao.

Although I am an Indonesian, I do think that they owe their WC victory mostly to the luck of the draw. Butet (Lilyana Natsir) needs a better partner to reinforce her position in the XD hierachy. Nova is definitely not going to be a long-term partner. Unfortunately, I can not think of any young player that can partner her in the long run.

Similarly, Anggun is also the weak link in the Anggun/Yunita partnership. He appears to be a little bit lazy and lack the aura of a top double player. On the other hand, Yunita is more hardworking and covers the ground better (despite her "chubby" appearance"). Either Flandy or Eng Hian could partner her and I am sure the result will be much better than the current pairing.

yes... but to be # 1 is not just lucky :D

nova is a weak link.... i think the best candidate is flany, he's good to paly xd, but he's too old

not just that. the NZ'ers was 3rd. so 1st/2nd/3rd are out.

did the Thai's come to China Open?

no, they are preparing to play in sea games

Nova is once again the weak link in the partnership. In fact, they ALWAYS have difficulties in beating the really top pairs in XD like Lee/Lee, Robertson/Emms, Zhang/Gao and previously Chen/Zhao. This year alone, they have lost twice to each of the pair, except Zhang/Gao. Therefore, its not surprising to see them losing to Zheng/Zhao.

Although I am an Indonesian, I do think that they owe their WC victory mostly to the luck of the draw. Butet (Lilyana Natsir) needs a better partner to reinforce her position in the XD hierachy. Nova is definitely not going to be a long-term partner. Unfortunately, I can not think of any young player that can partner her in the long run.

Similarly, Anggun is also the weak link in the Anggun/Yunita partnership. He appears to be a little bit lazy and lack the aura of a top double player. On the other hand, Yunita is more hardworking and covers the ground better (despite her "chubby" appearance"). Either Flandy or Eng Hian could partner her and I am sure the result will be much better than the current pairing.

100% agree!!! Natsir needs a new partner. I've been watchign a lot of their games and Natsir seems to be even more dominant than Nova.

I wish Candra could pair with her, that would be insane... Alright, its getting late, i'll go sleep and dream for real... :p

Nova is once again the weak link in the partnership. In fact, they ALWAYS have difficulties in beating the really top pairs in XD like Lee/Lee, Robertson/Emms, Zhang/Gao and previously Chen/Zhao. This year alone, they have lost twice to each of the pair, except Zhang/Gao. Therefore, its not surprising to see them losing to Zheng/Zhao.

Although I am an Indonesian, I do think that they owe their WC victory mostly to the luck of the draw. Butet (Lilyana Natsir) needs a better partner to reinforce her position in the XD hierachy. Nova is definitely not going to be a long-term partner. Unfortunately, I can not think of any young player that can partner her in the long run.

Similarly, Anggun is also the weak link in the Anggun/Yunita partnership. He appears to be a little bit lazy and lack the aura of a top double player. On the other hand, Yunita is more hardworking and covers the ground better (despite her "chubby" appearance"). Either Flandy or Eng Hian could partner her and I am sure the result will be much better than the current pairing.

agree, Lilyana is definitely much better player than Nova. she is the brain of the pair and as strong if not stronger than Nova on defense. Nova is just the cannon after Lilyana sets up the shuttle. she is always calm and he makes all the nervous errors.

why is she call butet?

desparately waiting for MS to begin....well people...
i guess we'll have to wait for 55 more minutes
be patient people

is there any cheerleaders showing in tv to wait the games like in nba or wc event.. some hot sexy cheerleaders :D

Yes... I agree with you badmania. I never see Flandi/eng hian as a winner in any tournament.

I still remember the match Flandi/teti vs Zhang/gao in Sudirman cup 2005. They can take the first set, but finally lost in 2nd and third due to lack experience.

Nova is once again the weak link in the partnership. In fact, they ALWAYS have difficulties in beating the really top pairs in XD like Lee/Lee, Robertson/Emms, Zhang/Gao and previously Chen/Zhao. This year alone, they have lost twice to each of the pair, except Zhang/Gao. Therefore, its not surprising to see them losing to Zheng/Zhao.

Although I am an Indonesian, I do think that they owe their WC victory mostly to the luck of the draw. Butet (Lilyana Natsir) needs a better partner to reinforce her position in the XD hierachy. Nova is definitely not going to be a long-term partner. Unfortunately, I can not think of any young player that can partner her in the long run.

Similarly, Anggun is also the weak link in the Anggun/Yunita partnership. He appears to be a little bit lazy and lack the aura of a top double player. On the other hand, Yunita is more hardworking and covers the ground better (despite her "chubby" appearance"). Either Flandy or Eng Hian could partner her and I am sure the result will be much better than the current pairing.

there aren't much opportunities to watch the few young Chinese WS players on match. often they lose in the earlier rounds and never get any TV time. this time around, however, we get to see Jiang, Wang Rong and Wang YH play. even though Jiang was the NC, out of the 3, i think WangYH has the best potential. as you said, good body build, speed, hardworking, shown good fighting spirit and kill instinct.

Jiang is also good but shuttle speed is slower. she is a more of a placement player from what i can tell. technique-wise she doesn't produce very sharp shots.

Wang Rong, despite being slow, i felt that she is kind of laid back. often happy to just keep the rally gonig and does work as hard as others in forming the rally. that's a valid style but imho not a winning style.

all are young, however, so by the time they mature, they will be taking the places of ZN, ZM, and probably XXF as well. XXF imho will be the last to retire while i don't thikn we will see ZhangN / ZhouM for more than a couple more years. these young ladies will have to be pushed up and will get more exposure at a younger age than the other used to.


Don't compare with Jiang & Wang Rong only, both players not younger than WYH.

How is Zhu Lin, Lu Lan (World Junior Champion), they played well in Malaysia Open 2005, Final & Quarter Final. Also Wang Lin Asian Junior Chmpion 2005, she younger than WYH.

For comparation,

WYH born January 18, 1988
Wang Lin March 13, 1989
Lu Lan born October 17, 1987

these players stil in junior age.

Wang Rong, born April 18, 1984 too late, otherwise she will next Zhang Ning
Jiang Yanjiaou, June 26, 1986
Zhu Lin no data, I thaught she isn't junior age anymore.

desparately waiting for MS to begin....well people...
i guess we'll have to wait for 55 more minutes
be patient people

but no live webcast. if there is, i will definitely stay up...

agree, Lilyana is definitely much better player than Nova. she is the brain of the pair and as strong if not stronger than Nova on defense. Nova is just the cannon after Lilyana sets up the shuttle. she is always calm and he makes all the nervous errors.

why is she call butet?

butet is a woman calling in batak, northern sumatera, and natsir's face is like a batak woman face :D

no livecast? oooh. plz anyone have another livecast. I ever saw that cctv5 will broadcast tonight at 22.?? pm.

just look at "china open telecast" thread in page 1. yannie posted


but no live webcast. if there is, i will definitely stay up...

nova/natsir always find a problem if they meet a new pairI'm not so sure about that. I watched them make pretty quick work of Xie/Zhang (http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopmodules/pair_head.asp?pairid_2=55745&firstname1_1=Nova&lastname1_1=WIDIANTO&firstname1_2=Lilyana&lastname1_2=NATSIR&pairid_1=57408)in the QF of the Korea Open. Xie looked really dangerous in his men's doubles match but Nova/Lilyana just took them in 2 games. Not so in the WC first game. No trouble with Prapakamol and Thungthongkam in first (and only) two meetings, either. Against Zhang/Gao (http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopmodules/pair_head.asp?pairid_2=51008&firstname1_1=Nova&lastname1_1=WIDIANTO&firstname1_2=Lilyana&lastname1_2=NATSIR&pairid_1=57408), they won their first match in the 2004 China Open and dropped two since. Same pattern with Robertson/Emms (http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopmodules/pair_head.asp?pairid_2=14297&firstname1_1=Nova&lastname1_1=WIDIANTO&firstname1_2=Lilyana&lastname1_2=NATSIR&pairid_1=57408). Laybourn/Rytter Juhl took only one match: 3rd of 4 altogether. They took (only) their first of three against Chen/Zhao.

In fact, out of all the pairs they've lost to, the only pairs other than Zheng/Zhao that fit your pattern are Lee/Lee (http://www.worldbadminton.net/Portal/desktopmodules/pair_head.asp?pairid_2=25888&firstname1_1=Nova&lastname1_1=WIDIANTO&firstname1_2=Lilyana&lastname1_2=NATSIR&pairid_1=57408) and Eriksen/Schjoldager.

but no live webcast. if there is, i will definitely stay up...

CCTV5 wont show it?

CCTV5 wont show it?
try btv6 (beijing tv)

yes... but to be # 1 is not just lucky :D

nova is a weak link.... i think the best candidate is flany, he's good to paly xd, but he's too old

They will lose the no 1 spot by mid of next mth after the points from last year's Singapore and Indo Open are erased, since Lee/Lee has performed better than them. Note that this tournamant will be the last in 2005.

Look at Jens Eriksen...he's 30++ yet still going on strong in both MD and XD. In fact, his performances in the past two years are improving!

I think Flandy/Yunita will be a good pairing (as we have seen in the Sudirman Cup -- they took a set from Zhang/Gao)Flandy/Eng Hian's continued presence in the MD will only hinder the progress of another upcoming MD pair (Hendra Gunawan/Joko Riyadi).

I will give Candra/Sigit a maximum of 1 more year (with next year's All England, WC, Thomas Cup, and Asian Games their outmost priority). Then, I think Candra will go to the US, while Sigit could perhaps be paired with Butet. This partnership will be very explosive and Sigit could probably stay for another 3 years to fulfil his ambition of an Olympic medal.

I hope PBSI's official do read the forum and think wisely in preparation for the Olympics in Beijing.

My preferred team for the Olympics:
MD:
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan -- at that time, should be Indo's no 1 pair (both will be 24 and very much at their prime)
Hendra Gunawan/Joko Riyadi -- has the potential to be Indo's no 2 pair (they will be 26/23 respectively)
Luluk Hadiyanto/Alven Yulianto -- last chance to get a medal from Olympics (they will be 29/28 respectively...more or less similar to Flandy/Eng Hian's situation last year)

XD:
Sigit Budiarto/Lilyana Natsir -- they will be 33/23 respectively....not that old for Sigit and could be the favorites for gold
Flandy Limpele or Eng Hian/Yunita Tetty -- they will be 34 or 31/27 respectively
Muhd Rizal/Endang Nur Sugianti -- they will be 22/25 respectively