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sabathiel
11-27-2005, 01:29 AM
I am new here and I just want to share this with the forum. In 1989 when I was 19 I went to Indonesia to undergo badminton training. In Australia I was a member of my State's Under 21 badminton team. When I first arrived in Indonesia I had to play Mia Audina when she was 9 years old. Her father was coaching me and he told me that Mia was the under 12 Jakarta Girl's singles champion and that she could have played in the Under 10s but that would be too easy for her. Needless to say she beat me in three sets and I was a male 19 year old who made it to my State's Under 21 team in Australia and she beat me in few more three set games after that. However after training in Indonesia for 2 months I beat Mia in straight sets but still losing to a 9 year old girl was an experience I could not forget. I thought at the time this whiz kid was going to be a World Champion one day but it is a pity Mia never grew to a favourable height and this is what is causing her problems in winning the major tournaments on the world stage.

wood_22_chuck
11-27-2005, 10:32 AM
Remarkable story! :D ... what was the difference in your game against Mia, before training and after?

Thanks for sharing, and Welcome to BadmintonForum :D

-dave

sabathiel
11-27-2005, 10:03 PM
Remarkable story! :D ... what was the difference in your game against Mia, before training and after?

Thanks for sharing, and Welcome to BadmintonForum :D

-dave

I lost a few three tight straight games before and during training and I think the scores were close (ie above 10) but after 2 months training I beat her under 10. The training was like hell especially in the tropical heat with I think aluminium rooftops which absorbs the heat. The training was conducted in the middle of the day and I think the heat inisde the badminton hall would be in the top 30's Celcius. In the same hall you can see Ardy B. Wiranata training playing singles against 4 player(one in each corner of the court). I thought I had it bad when I had to play singles and play one corner at a time only when the Coach on the other side can hit the shuttle anywhere he likes.

What amazes me with Mia was that it was like playing against a brick wall as she returns everything with precision shots. I can never tell if she was going to do a clear, drop shot or a smash and I had to make my decision as to where to anticpate her shots in the split second after she hit the shuttle. Her back was so elastic and she had great flexibility and I often thought I hit a winner but she did things like the splits on the court to return what I consider a winning shot. She was like a magician and gymnast on court with a never say die attitude but she wasn't a good doubles player.

seven
12-01-2005, 05:01 AM
Nice and interesting experience Sabathiel! :D

DinkAlot
12-01-2005, 06:03 AM
Thanks for sharing, very interesting. :D

Winex West Can
12-01-2005, 06:37 PM
I thought at the time this whiz kid was going to be a World Champion one day but it is a pity Mia never grew to a favourable height and this is what is causing her problems in winning the major tournaments on the world stage.

Thanks for sharing but I don't think it's a lack of height that is causing her problems but rather her fitness/stamina. You will notice that a lot of her matches with the Chinese all seems to go basically with Audina winning the first and then losing the second and finally the third (by a wide margin).

DinkAlot
12-01-2005, 06:40 PM
Thanks for sharing but I don't think it's a lack of height that is causing her problems but rather her fitness/stamina. You will notice that a lot of her matches with the Chinese all seems to go basically with Audina winning the first and then losing the second and finally the third (by a wide margin).

Agree, most of the time Mia's out of gas in the 3rd set.

ants
12-01-2005, 06:43 PM
Thats a nice experience. I definately will not last beyond 10 points yet alone 3 sets! ehhehe... kudos.

madbad
12-01-2005, 07:10 PM
Thanks for sharing but I don't think it's a lack of height that is causing her problems but rather her fitness/stamina. You will notice that a lot of her matches with the Chinese all seems to go basically with Audina winning the first and then losing the second and finally the third (by a wide margin).

Ya, great story. Just to add to the above, it's not necessarily the height or just the fitness level but also her weight, which has been mentioned several times in other threads. Yes, I suppose her weight would affect her stamina resulting in many 3rd set losses.

sabathiel
12-01-2005, 09:02 PM
When I was playing her Mia was tiny and skinny. I still have the photos from back then. I suppose with her weight and a little extra height she wouldn't have a weight problem. Another way of looking at it is that she is not fat just not tall enough.:rolleyes:

DinkAlot
12-02-2005, 06:39 AM
When I was playing her Mia was tiny and skinny. I still have the photos from back then.

Please post those pictures. :D



I suppose with her weight and a little extra height she wouldn't have a weight problem. Another way of looking at it is that she is not fat just not tall enough.:rolleyes:

I hope you're not serious, that's just not logical. :p

BoboTheBadder
12-02-2005, 07:26 PM
I hope you're not serious, that's just not logical. :p

Of course it's logical! My weight would be perfect if I grew another foot or so. ;)

DinkAlot
12-02-2005, 07:30 PM
Of course it's logical! My weight would be perfect if I grew another foot or so. ;)

LMAO! :p :p :p :p :p

madbad
12-02-2005, 07:35 PM
When I was playing her Mia was tiny and skinny. I still have the photos from back then. I suppose with her weight and a little extra height she wouldn't have a weight problem. Another way of looking at it is that she is not fat just not tall enough.:rolleyes:

Pics please. This I have to see :p :D

badmad
12-02-2005, 07:44 PM
sure... those pics will be just cool... do post those pics...

cooler
12-02-2005, 07:45 PM
Thanks for sharing but I don't think it's a lack of height that is causing her problems but rather her fitness/stamina. You will notice that a lot of her matches with the Chinese all seems to go basically with Audina winning the first and then losing the second and finally the third (by a wide margin).

agree.
i personally believe the mia could had taken the athen gold WS if she had the stamina. That match turned around in midway 2nd game when mia was gassing out. Mia was reading most of Zhang ning strokes.

http://www.badmintonsalon.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17725&page=2

sabathiel
12-02-2005, 09:15 PM
I'll find those pictures and I'll try and figure out how to attach picture files to my post.

sabathiel
12-02-2005, 09:46 PM
I hope I scanned the pictures okay I don't know how they will turn up on this post. The other guy is Mia's dad who was my coach.

cooler
12-02-2005, 09:52 PM
Please post those pictures. :D




I hope you're not serious, that's just not logical. :p

improper grammer, it's unlogical :p

sabathiel
12-02-2005, 10:09 PM
I don't know how this might turn out but I think the pictures might be to small.

badmad
12-02-2005, 10:30 PM
I don't know how this might turn out but I think the pictures might be to small.

well, it sure is a small photo. but it serves the purpose... ;)

she is really too young in this one. i'm not sure how would it feel to be losing to such a young girl. ;) Once I lost to an under-13 state champ and I felt terrible. My friends laughed at me pretty bad though. :p

sabathiel
12-02-2005, 11:33 PM
She was 9 and the under 12 Jakarta Single's champion. She could have played in the Under 10s but chose to go up to the next level. I heard she won the Under 10s when she was 6 years old. I was representing my State in the Under 21s in Australia. That goes to show the difference between the badminton standard in Australia and Indonesia.

madbad
12-02-2005, 11:58 PM
improper grammer, it's unlogical :p

Would proper grammar then make it not illogical? :p ;)

madbad
12-02-2005, 11:59 PM
She was 9 and the under 12 Jakarta Single's champion. She could have played in the Under 10s but chose to go up to the next level. I heard she won the Under 10s when she was 6 years old. I was representing my State in the Under 21s in Australia. That goes to show the difference between the badminton standard in Australia and Indonesia.

How tall was she in this pic? Looked like she had a good build then for a badminton player

sabathiel
12-03-2005, 12:02 AM
I was 172 cm and Mia was about my shoulder height. She was really skinny back then though compared to the weight she put on now.

s1nn3r
12-03-2005, 12:05 AM
she seems quite tall for a 9yrs old. maybe she grow a bit early than others. :confused:

madbad
12-03-2005, 12:21 AM
I was 172 cm and Mia was about my shoulder height. She was really skinny back then though compared to the weight she put on now.

I think you must be mistaken. 172 cm is 5 ft 8 ins and she sure isn't that now! Is Mia Indo-Chinese BTW?

My bad, misread the beginning :p

sabathiel
12-03-2005, 12:31 AM
I was 172 cm Mia was about my shoulder height.

Yes, Mia is Indonesian Chinese.

DinkAlot
12-03-2005, 04:40 AM
improper grammer, it's unlogical :p

KICK! KICK! KICK!

Is the pot calling the kettle black? You didn't even spell "grammar" correctly, nor did you start your sentence with a capital letter. KICK! :p




P.S. Badminton content, thanks for the pictures Sab. :)

xavier felipe
12-03-2005, 08:55 AM
Yes right Mia is indonesian chinese

Chinese newspapers mentioned her name "Zhang Haili" same surname with Zhang Ning =P

And Susi Susanti is mentioned "Wang Lianxiang" in Chinese

Rgds

DinkAlot
12-03-2005, 10:48 AM
Xavier: thanks for the info, learn something new every day. :D

cooler
12-23-2005, 03:08 AM
KICK! KICK! KICK!

Is the pot calling the kettle black? You didn't even spell "grammar" correctly, nor did you start your sentence with a capital letter. KICK! :p


Me fail english? That's unpossible!

DinkAlot
12-23-2005, 06:40 AM
Me fail english? That's unpossible!

Are you speaks to me? Are you fighting? KICK! Unpossible is possible only in fidelity of undeniable effervescent duality.

Dill
12-24-2005, 09:50 AM
Are you speaks to me? Are you fighting? KICK! Unpossible is possible only in fidelity of undeniable effervescent duality.

Pardon? :p

Glaswegian - You what?