German Open 2006 Quarter-Final (Friday, 13 Jan) [Archive]

badMania

01-12-2006, 01:25 PM

MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan vs Xia Xuanze
Lu Yi vs Chen Hong
Chen Jin vs Lee Hyun Il (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Simon Santoso vs Kaspar Oedum

MEN'S DOUBLES QUARTER FINAL
Hwang Ji Man/Han Sang Hoonvs Anthony Clark/Robert Blair
Robert Adcock/Robin Middleton vs Liu Kwok Wa/Albertus Susanto Njoto
Tadashi Ohtsuka/Keita Masuda advances to the semi-final --> WO against Michael Logosz/Robert Mateusiak
Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong DaevsFu Haifeng/Cai Yun (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Zhang Ning vs Lee Yun Hwa
Pi Hongyan vs Zhu Lin
Wang Lin vs Wang Chen (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Lu Lan vs Xie Xingfang

WOMEN’S DOUBLES
Gao Ling/Huang Sui vs Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing
Ha Jung Eun/Hwang Yu Mi vs Zhang Dan/Zhao Tingting
Du Jing/Yu Yang vs Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen
Zhang Yawen/Wei Yili vs Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

MIXED DOUBLES
Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung vs Guo Zhendong/Yu Yang
Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen vs Robert Blair/Natalie Munt (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
David Lindley/Suzanne Rayappan vs Daniel Shirley/Sara Runesten-Petersen
Anggun Nugroho/Yunita Tetty vs Zhang Jun/Gao Ling

hcpoirot

01-12-2006, 02:16 PM

MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan vs Xia Xuanze (Xia already book his place in China Thomas squad even if he lost to LD)
Lu Yi vs Chen Hong
Chen Jin vs Lee Hyun Il (Time for Chen Jin to prove that he earn LYB trust who send him almost of all important events last year and this year)
Simon Santoso vs Kaspar Oedum

MEN'S DOUBLES QUARTER FINAL
From 5 Korean MD pairs, the most promising ones are Jung/ Lee.
Hwang Ji Man/Han Sang Hoonvs Anthony Clark/Robert Blair
Robert Adcock/Robin Middleton vs Liu Kwok Wa/Albertus Susanto Njoto
Tadashi Ohtsuka/Keita Masuda advances to the semi-final --> WO against Michael Logosz/Robert Mateusiak
Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong DaevsFu Haifeng/Cai Yun (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

WOMEN'S SINGLES
From 5 China players, only Jiang Yian Jiao lost in second round by her own team mate, Wang Lin. With this result, the Uber Cup is 100% in China hand. No other Uber team third singles can beat China third singles now even without Zhou Mi as their third singles.

The most uprising from Chinese young players is Wang Lin. She only enter 4-5 events last year, and she managed to reach 2 QF in a row this year beating Top 10 player.
Zhang Ning vs Lee Yun Hwa
Pi Hongyan vs Zhu Lin
Wang Lin vs Wang Chen (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Lu Lan vs Xie Xingfang

WOMEN’S DOUBLES
Gao Ling/Huang Sui vs Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing
Ha Jung Eun/Hwang Yu Mi vs Zhang Dan/Zhao Tingting
Du Jing/Yu Yang vs Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen (Probably a suprise here. Beside from Gao/Huang, the other pairs thatcan beat Yang/Zhang last year are Du/Yu in China Open.)
Zhang Yawen/Wei Yili vs Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won (MATCH OF THE ROUND) Another test for ZYW/WYL if they wanted to be pick as China Uber Team third doubles.

MIXED DOUBLES
Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung vs Guo Zhendong/Yu Yang
Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen vs Robert Blair/Natalie Munt (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
David Lindley/Suzanne Rayappan vs Daniel Shirley/Sara Runesten-Petersen
Anggun Nugroho/Yunita Tetty vs Zhang Jun/Gao Ling[/QUOTE]

yannie

01-12-2006, 02:33 PM

Chen Jin vs Lee Hyun Il (Time for Chen Jin to prove that he earn LYB trust who send him almost of all important events last year and this year)

Trust me, he is a fighter... the only thing that is important for him is to improve and win win win...

Wong8Egg

01-12-2006, 03:10 PM

MEN'S SINGLES
(Xia already book his place in China Thomas squad even if he lost to LD)

where do you get this piece of information from? :eek:

Simp84

01-12-2006, 06:34 PM

xia will win this time!:D
I have the feeling he will make it hehe

ghostnhero

01-12-2006, 07:53 PM

is astro going to show it on the final day??..tq...

indra

01-13-2006, 12:43 AM

peace

01-13-2006, 02:30 AM

Semi Final:

Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Chen Jin vs Simon

Final:
Lin Dan vs Simon

Champion = SImon

:eek: Are you sure??? Simon even couldn't beat Lee Hyun-ill in the Swiss Open last week, so how come if he could beat the first ranking of the world?

Maybe your semifinal prediction is still realistic, but well, for Final, if LD vs Simon, I am sure that LD will still win.:D ...Simon is lacking of consistency I think. He should get more experience

seven

01-13-2006, 02:37 AM

Semi Final:

Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Chen Jin vs Simon

Final:
Lin Dan vs Simon

Champion = SImon

Hey, didn't you make a similar prediction for the Swiss Open? ;)

Well anyway, it would be nice to see Simon succeeding at last, as he is still far from having confirmed the high potential he was showing a few years ago...

indra

01-13-2006, 02:50 AM

Hey, didn't you make a similar prediction for the Swiss Open? ;)

Well anyway, it would be nice to see Simon succeeding at last, as he is still far from having confirmed the high potential he was showing a few years ago...
With the withdrawal of Bao, at least this will boost Simon's mental strength. Simon in the past once defeated top players unexpectedly. It is true that Simon lacks experience. Technically speaking, he is on par with other top players. His mental strength needs to be improved. Being able to reach the big 8 in the tournament in which top players participate will at least give him an extra motivation to achieve further.

It is true Lin Dan is 2 levels above SImon...yet if Simon can reach the final, LD should be very very careful....

zia.ufrida

01-13-2006, 02:51 AM

I think it can be. Lin Dan target is All England title. So maybe Lin will save his performance in german. Simon have a good playing technic. He just need good mental to face the world number 1.

Semi Final:

Lin Dan vs Chen Hong
Chen Jin vs Simon

Final:
Lin Dan vs Simon

Champion = SImon

:eek: Are you sure??? Simon even couldn't beat Lee Hyun-ill in the Swiss Open last week, so how come if he could beat the first ranking of the world?

Maybe your semifinal prediction is still realistic, but well, for Final, if LD vs Simon, I am sure that LD will still win.:D ...Simon is lacking of consistency I think. He should get more experience

madbad

01-13-2006, 03:04 AM

[QUOTE=indra]With the withdrawal of Bao, at least this will boost Simon's mental strength. /QUOTE]

Huh? How?

While he should be able to beat Oedum, I think he'll run into a wall in Chen Jin. Chen Jin's pretty hungry to break through himself and has shown great form in the last little while. Good luck to Simon all the same and I hope he can prove me wrong.

eskey

01-13-2006, 03:13 AM

I still bet for Lin Dan to win the title. As for Simon, I am happy that he can reach QF (some more beating 2 higher ranking players) and the very reasonable target for him to enter SF, if he can go to Final that is bonus. By sending him more regular to the big tournaments will make him stronger mentally and have higher chance to become top player in the world :)

sabathiel

01-13-2006, 06:41 AM

With the withdrawal of Bao, at least this will boost Simon's mental strength. Simon in the past once defeated top players unexpectedly. It is true that Simon lacks experience. Technically speaking, he is on par with other top players. His mental strength needs to be improved. Being able to reach the big 8 in the tournament in which top players participate will at least give him an extra motivation to achieve further.

It is true Lin Dan is 2 levels above SImon...yet if Simon can reach the final, LD should be very very careful....

You are serious aren't you? You are not making silly and ridiculous comments for fun. I think you will be proven wrong once again and your badminton credibility will be destroyed forever. However if you are right this time then maybe we should take more notice of your crazy predictions. After all you predicted Simon to win the Swiss Open and he got thrashed!:D

seven

01-13-2006, 07:27 AM

You are serious aren't you? You are not making silly and ridiculous comments for fun. I think you will be proven wrong once again and your badminton credibility will be destroyed forever. However if you are right this time then maybe we should take more notice of your crazy predictions. After all you predicted Simon to win the Swiss Open and he got thrashed!:D

Why don't you leave him alone?
Everyone is free to make the predictions he wants.
Everyone is free to support the players he likes.

There's nothing "silly and ridiculous" to that. You can disagree (I don't think Simon will win either tbh) but this doesn't stop you from respecting other's opinions.

sabathiel

01-13-2006, 08:10 AM

Why don't you leave him alone?
Everyone is free to make the predictions he wants.
Everyone is free to support the players he likes.

There's nothing "silly and ridiculous" to that. You can disagree (I don't think Simon will win either tbh) but this doesn't stop you from respecting other's opinions.

I am all for free speech and respecting other people's right to express their opinion but with free speech there are consequences. Everyone is also free to criticise other people's opinions especially when these opinions are absurd and the person expressing the opinion claims that he/she is objective. There is nothing disrepectful in my polite criticism of this individual. This dispute has a history from a long debate which I doubt you followed. The person actually claimed that his opinions are objective and credible when he argued that Taufik is the greatest badminton player in history and Taufik is greater than Rudy Hartono. So back off buddy you don't know what you are getting into! Everyone is free to express their opinions and that includes me criticising people who claim to be objective when in fact they are extremely subjective bordering silly.:p

Mag

01-13-2006, 08:18 AM

Badmincraze

01-13-2006, 08:20 AM

Ermmm.... this is getting a bit too HOT n fiery... :o :o

Relax guys n lets concentrate on the THREAD - QF for German Opens.. starting in abt 1.5hr's time.... ;)

Cheers guys !!! :D

magical_phoenix

01-13-2006, 08:42 AM

Ermmm.... this is getting a bit too HOT n fiery... :o :o

Relax guys n lets concentrate on the THREAD - QF for German Opens.. starting in abt 1.5hr's time.... ;)

Cheers guys !!! :D

Wah!! I'm so excited, esp the Chen Jin vs Lee Hyun Il match. I wish I have a teleport and can just *poof* in the stadium to watch it:D

Brave_Turtle

01-13-2006, 08:43 AM

Hey... am I the only one for Chen Hong on this one?

He has very high chance of defeating Lu Yi and he has been playing very well lately vs LD :p

magical_phoenix

01-13-2006, 08:45 AM

Hey... am I the only one for Chen Hong on this one?

He has very high chance of defeating Lu Yi and he has been playing very well lately vs LD :p

Yeah! I think Chen Hong has the chance to win this tourney.. CH and LD can beat each other at one time or another though it won't matter to me much if it's Lin Dan or Chen Hong or even Chen Jin who wins this tourney since they are all Chinese. Too bad Bao withdrew.. was he injured?

Badmincraze

01-13-2006, 08:59 AM

Yeah! I think Chen Hong has the chance to win this tourney.. CH and LD can beat each other at one time or another though it won't matter to me much if it's Lin Dan or Chen Hong or even Chen Jin who wins this tourney since they are all Chinese. Too bad Bao withdrew.. was he injured?

Yah... is Bao injured??? :confused: :confused: Hope he can make it to AE2006... Though Lin Dan has high high chance, but guess I'll place my bets on Chen Hong this time (cos i hope he can win LD).... :D :D

yingcheng

01-13-2006, 10:31 AM

Chen Jin 8-12 Lee Hyun II now...

add oil Chen Jin!

habujoji

01-13-2006, 10:38 AM

Wah!! I'm so excited, esp the Chen Jin vs Lee Hyun Il match. I wish I have a teleport and can just *poof* in the stadium to watch it:D

First game for LHI, 15-11

seven

01-13-2006, 10:43 AM

Zhang/Yang are already through to the semis.

And the only potential non-chinese WD in the semis (Lee/Lee) are in a bad position, having lost the first game 15-10 to Zhang/Wei. (though leading 6-3 now...)

badMania

01-13-2006, 11:19 AM

Its 1 set all between Wei/Zhang vs Lee/Lee as well as for Chen vs Lee.

tehsham

01-13-2006, 11:27 AM

Its 1 set all between Wei/Zhang vs Lee/Lee as well as for Chen vs Lee.

Wei/Zhang are roaming home, whilst Chen still crawling in the rubber set

tehsham

01-13-2006, 11:34 AM

Wei/Zhang are roaming home, whilst Chen still crawling in the rubber set
Chen is home first 11-15, 15-3,15-10, whilst Wei/Zhang still at 14-13

badMania

01-13-2006, 11:34 AM

Wei/Zhang are roaming home, whilst Chen still crawling in the rubber set

Chen Jin won! It's nervy moments in the women's doubles. The Chinese were leading 14-6, then the Korean got back to 14-13. Service now goes back to the Chinese.

badMania

01-13-2006, 11:36 AM

The Chinese pair seals it 15-13 in the rubber game. So, it looks like an all-Chinese affair in the semi-final.

sabathiel

01-13-2006, 11:42 AM

OK, Sabathiel (and Indra for that matter), I can see where this is going. Please be more respectful to others. The "Taufik AE" thread was more than enough.

Disagreeing is one thing, calling somebody "ridiculous" and "crazy" is another thing.

Consider this as a last warning. :mad:

Just to correct your error, I never called anybody "ridiculous" or "crazy". I said the comment is ridiculous and the prediction is crazy. I think this is different from attacking the person and is acceptable in proper debate (ie attacking the facts and arguments and not the person).

I don't remember being warned before so how can this be a last warning. You only get one warning around here?:confused:

badMania

01-13-2006, 11:47 AM

A good start by Simon, he leads Kaspar Oedum 9-4 in the first set.

badMania

01-13-2006, 11:54 AM

As predicted...Kaspar Oedum is not an easy opponent....he levels it 9-9.

badMania

01-13-2006, 11:57 AM

Simon pulls ahead 13-9 before service changes back to the German.

badMania

01-13-2006, 12:00 PM

Anthony Clark/Robert Clair finally beats Hwang Ji Man/Han Sang Hoon 15-9, 17-15.

Simon takes the first set 15-9. Hopefully, no screw-ups in the second set.

badMania

01-13-2006, 12:12 PM

Its level at 8-8 in the second set....pretty tight game. Everytime Simon pulls ahead, Oedum manages to tie it.

badMania

01-13-2006, 12:16 PM

Simon gets 3 points in a row to make it 11-8, but Oedum yet again closes it to 11-10. Still too tight to tell....

2cents

01-13-2006, 12:18 PM

Its level at 8-8 in the second set....pretty tight game. Everytime Simon pulls ahead, Oedum manages to tie it.

why so worried? :confused: Simon is way ahead of Oedum, several levels up. If Simon did fail, then he must be injured, or sick or lost his mind that time.

What I worry is that how he plays Chen Jin next round, that's a real test for Simon.

badMania

01-13-2006, 12:21 PM

why so worried? :confused: Simon is way ahead of Oedum, several levels up. If Simon did fail, then he must be injured, or sick or lost his mind that time.

What I worry is that how he plays Chen Jin next round, that's a real test for Simon.

Err...I wouldn't want to be so sure. Oedum is a hardworking, stubborn player. He took the first set against Bao yesterday. The way things go in the first set and second set, Simon certainly does not have it easy for him (compared to vs Sato or even Joppien). Everytime he leads, Oedum catches him (esp in the second set). As I am typing, Oedum wins the second set 15-12. :cool:

What can I say.....

nugroho

01-13-2006, 12:42 PM

simon WO.... i can't believe it :S
:crying:

2cents

01-13-2006, 12:47 PM

simon WO.... i can't believe it :S
:crying:

See, Oedum is really a giant killer, physically! :cool:

yamhill

01-13-2006, 01:04 PM

so , even now xia xuanze and lin dan are playing,,,I think Lin Dan wins, because at swiss open xia lost against lee chong wei 0:15

badMania

01-13-2006, 01:04 PM

See, Oedum is really a giant killer, physically! :cool:

Incredible...the best chance for Simon to reach semi-final...and yet he succumbed to injuries :mad:

At what odds will you have Oedum reaching the semi-final before the start of the tournament? 2 back to back withdrawals.....unbelievable.....

2cents

01-13-2006, 01:10 PM

Incredible...the best chance for Simon to reach semi-final...and yet he succumbed to injuries :mad:

At what odds will you have Oedum reaching the semi-final before the start of the tournament? 2 back to back withdrawals.....unbelievable.....

Don't worry. Oedum can shine only this time once while Simon has much better future. It's not that hard to reach semi, like Oedum did. The harder thing is to reach semi constantly. Simon will have his peak time, that's for sure

yingcheng

01-13-2006, 01:14 PM

XXF lost to Lu Lan (11-6, 6-11, 5-11):crying: :crying:

how come?!

2cents

01-13-2006, 01:17 PM

XXF lost to Lu Lan (11-6, 6-11, 5-11):crying: :crying:

how come?!

Becuase LL beat another X (Xu) yesterday. :rolleyes:

Everything is possible among those Chinese players. Both Xie Xingfang and Zhang Ning lost in early round in China national games.

nugroho

01-13-2006, 01:18 PM

Don't worry. Oedum can shine only this time once while Simon has much better future. It's not that hard to reach semi, like Oedum did. The harder thing is to reach semi constantly. Simon will have his peak time, that's for sure
it's defenatly to reach any next stage in any tournament of anythings!!!
but anyway.... that's luck which include our success in every step we make... ;)
so good luck!!!

nugroho

01-13-2006, 01:23 PM

it hink china will take all of clean up the title this time...

:mad:

cxytdn

01-13-2006, 01:30 PM

FRA: PI, Hongyan CHN: ZHU, Lin 5:11 0:11

peace

01-13-2006, 01:30 PM

How is the XD result between INA and CHN?

Pity that Simon WO....hmm seems true that China will do the clean sweep. In WS and WD can be all Chinese in the semifinal already...

:cool:

nugroho

01-13-2006, 01:38 PM

How is the XD result between INA and CHN?

Pity that Simon WO....hmm seems true that China will do the clean sweep. In WS and WD can be all Chinese in the semifinal already...

:cool:
yup... it's happening already i guess...
so....thomas and uber will be go to china again this year... what an achievement from chinese....
well... i hate my self to support indo

nugroho

01-13-2006, 01:39 PM

How is the XD result between INA and CHN?

Pity that Simon WO....hmm seems true that China will do the clean sweep. In WS and WD can be all Chinese in the semifinal already...

:cool:
they dont play yet... will be the last game to night

yingcheng

01-13-2006, 01:54 PM

FRA: PI, Hongyan CHN: ZHU, Lin 5:11 0:11

0-11?!?!
oh..Pi Hongyan seems not in good form after HK open...

Wang Chen VS Wang Lin will begin soon...letz see can Wang Chen stop China's domination in WS (though she is also chinese);)

cxytdn

01-13-2006, 01:54 PM

CHN: LIN, Dan CHN: XIA, Xuanze 15:8 15:8

other

01-13-2006, 01:55 PM

well... i hate my self to support indo

:confused::confused:
just because they are not always doing so great, doesn't mean that it is wrong or silly to support a team...

i mean i still support chinese football team;)

---------

back on topic,
WANG Lin 3:2 WANG Chen (first set)
LEE, LEE 7:15 7:2 GUO, YU

mmm if all goes to plan...well the chinese team plan, i wonder who will be the only chinese to be knocked out today....either CH or LY:p

Darth Andrianus

01-13-2006, 02:12 PM

other

01-13-2006, 02:13 PM

mmm maybe not everyone will go thru:p

Wang Chen leads by 1 set and 5:0 with serve in the second

Zhang, Zhao leading 8:1 Ha, Hwang

Lee, Lee and Guo, Yu tied at 1 set all (7:15 15:9) rubber game about to begin

blckknght

01-13-2006, 02:35 PM

Lee Jae Jin and Lee Hyo Jung making a great comeback in the 3rd game... they've regained the serve at 12-12, and now they lead 13-12.

blckknght

01-13-2006, 02:36 PM

Jung Jae Sung and Lee Yong Dae starting the first game against Fu Haifeng and Cai Yun, Korea leads 3-2 with the chinese serving

blckknght

01-13-2006, 02:39 PM

Robert Blair and Natalie Munt vs Xie Zhongbo and Zhang Yawen first game about to start

GUO Zhendong/YU Yang take the serve back from Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung but are not able to move their score. Lee/Lee match point!

Lee/Jung lead 6-3 over Cai/Fu but that can't last:-)

kwun

01-13-2006, 02:39 PM

Man, this is absolutely unbelievable. There are so many chinese this tournament is going to get really boring. Denmark needs a new Camilla Martin and Korea needs a new KDM/RKM, but that's another thread...:)

to be fair, part of the reason the Chinese are so dominating in the GO is that most other countries are not at full force. MAS isn't around, INA isn't fielding their top players, DEN decides to stay home. even ENG is holding back Robertson/Emms.

only KOR seems to be playing their best players but to be honest, i think KOR is at an adjustment stage right now where they are left with mainly younger and less experienced players.

everybody's true colors will be shown next week in the AE.

blckknght

01-13-2006, 02:40 PM

Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung beat Guo Zhendong/Yu Yang 7:15,15:9,15:12

Lee Yong Dae/Jung Jae Sung lead Fu/Cai 8:5

blckknght

01-13-2006, 02:43 PM

Agree with Kwun. China and Korea are taking the German Open as All England warm-up, and Indonesia, Denmark, Malaysia took the Swiss Open as a warm up for All England. We'll see what's what at the All England.

Why is Shon Seung Mo having such trouble finding form? We know he's capable of great things, but he seems not to be 100% since Athens.
G

djake

01-13-2006, 02:48 PM

by the way,
How old is Kasper Oedum ? I have seen his name around many times but can't get his profile up in the new ibf site.

blckknght

01-13-2006, 02:53 PM

Yeah, the IBF website doesn't really offer the most complete... or at all complete player database. Sorry I can't help with the info on Kasper.

incredibly, Lee Yong Dae/Jung Jae Sung take the first game off Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun with relative ease 15:7, but Fu and Cai off to a good start leading 3:0

nugroho

01-13-2006, 03:33 PM