German Open 2006 Semifinal (Saturday, 14 Jan)

[hcpoirot]

MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong (Lin probably win in 3 sets or two tight sets)
Chen Jin vs Kaspar Oedum ( Chen had a very big chance to reach his first IBF final.)
Will Simon be punished by PBSI cause he failed to made it to SF?


MEN'S DOUBLES QUARTER FINAL

Anthony Clark/Robert Blair vs Liu Kwok Wa/Albertus Susanto Njoto
Tadashi Ohtsuka/Keita Masuda VS Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae(MATCH OF THE ROUND) Korea had a new hope in this pair.


WOMEN'S SINGLES
Zhang Ning vs Zhu Lin
Wang Chen VS Lu Lan (MATCH OF THE ROUND) Can Lu Lan made another giant killer after beating Xu Huai Wen and XXF?



WOMEN’S DOUBLES
After China WYL/ZTT and ZD/ZYW switch each other into new pairs, they successfully won again Lee/Lee from Korea which they never did before. Look like this new formation work.

Gao Ling/Huang Sui vs Zhang Dan/Zhao Tingting
Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen VS Zhang Yawen/Wei Yili



MIXED DOUBLES
Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Daniel Shirley/Sara Runesten-Petersenvs Zhang Jun/Gao Ling
So far ZJ/ GL had a very nice draw through SF.

[2cents]

MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong (Lin probably win in 3 sets or two tight sets)
Chen Jin vs Kaspar Oedum ( Chen had a very big chance to reach his first IBF final.)
Will Simon be punished by PBSI cause he failed to made it to SF?


MEN'S DOUBLES QUARTER FINAL

Anthony Clark/Robert Blair vs Liu Kwok Wa/Albertus Susanto Njoto
Tadashi Ohtsuka/Keita Masuda VS Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae(MATCH OF THE ROUND) Korea had a new hope in this pair.


WOMEN'S SINGLES
Zhang Ning vs Zhu Lin
Wang Chen VS Lu Lan (MATCH OF THE ROUND) Can Lu Lan made another giant killer after beating Xu Huai Wen and XXF?



WOMEN’S DOUBLES
After China WYL/ZTT and ZD/ZYW switch each other into new pairs, they successfully won again Lee/Lee from Korea which they never did before. Look like this new formation work.

Gao Ling/Huang Sui vs Zhang Dan/Zhao Tingting
Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen VS Zhang Yawen/Wei Yili



MIXED DOUBLES
Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Daniel Shirley/Sara Runesten-Petersenvs Zhang Jun/Gao Ling
So far ZJ/ GL had a very nice draw through SF.

just cannot find any reason to disagree. all predictions are so reasonable.

[nugroho]

just cannot find any reason to disagree. all predictions are so reasonable.
you right... and it will be damn borring... all chinese final except for MD ?
no interest :(

[badMania]

Fully agreed with the predictions.

A pity that Anggun/Yunita lost tamely to Zhang/Gao.

[eskey]

A pity that Anggun/Yunita lost tamely to Zhang/Gao.

it shows they are not at chinese pair class yet, maybe only nova/butet can challenge them.

the only field without chinese affair is MD, the rest chinese will take them all.

surprise that Fu/Cai lost to the Korean pair, now hope they can go all the way to take the title.

[Brave_Turtle]

I'm going against the odds and predict that Chen Hong wins it :p

[extremeroxr]

I'll bet on Lindan. Chen Hong seems to do well in AE. Maybe he'll focus on that.
rgds:D

[xavier felipe]

I think the most exciting match to watch is

Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen vs Lee Jae-jin/Lee Hyo-jung

Xie/Zhang has won twice against Lee/Lee, both in a very tight rubber set (the last one is in HK Open). Let's hope Zhang yawen can win again to Lee Hyo-jung just like she did in QF of WD yesterday (in a very tight game). Btw anyone has this match????

And there is any picture of German Open 2006??

Rgds

[economet]

Actually, I have been there for a while, but I was too busy to take any pictures of the players.
So I promise to all our BC members to make shots today.

By the way, I was introduced to Xia Xuanze and Lin Dan. Further I had to manage my club's players taking part in the tournament (Wu Yun Yong, Ingo Kindervater (MD, defeated Sang/(Zheng?), Birgit Overzier etc.)

Xia is a really nice person. He told me yesterday shortly before his match against Lin Dan that he is in very good shape and confident. Unfortunately, Lin Dan knows how to play against him.

Xia will come after the Thomas Cup to Germany if his club team will free him.

The most sad thing for all badminton fans is that Bao Chunlai is injured. So he can't play further and of course, all England is over for him now. Kasper Oedum reached the semi finals after he won once again against Simon Santoso who gave up because of injury. A Lucky Guy!

But Chen Jin is my favourite now!
The MS match Lee Hyunil against Chen Jin was definitely the match of the day. I'm eager to see the finals match between Chen Jin and Lin Dan.

From Germany!


I think the most exciting match to watch is

Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen vs Lee Jae-jin/Lee Hyo-jung

Xie/Zhang has won twice against Lee/Lee, both in a very tight rubber set (the last one is in HK Open). Let's hope Zhang yawen can win again to Lee Hyo-jung just like she did in QF of WD yesterday (in a very tight game). Btw anyone has this match????

And there is any picture of German Open 2006??

Rgds

[Badmincraze]

The most sad thing for all badminton fans is that Bao Chunlai is injured. So he can't play further and of course, all England is over for him now.

But Chen Jin is my favourite now!
I'm eager to see the finals match between Chen Jin and Lin Dan.



So Bao is not taking part in AE anymore??? But from his official website, there was news that he would still go for AE... :confused: :confused: Anyway, hope he can play next week.

I am also rooting for Chen Jin !! Hope to see 2 Chens in the finals .. hee hee :D

[yannie]

Jia You Chen Jin!!! I know you can do it!!!

[Badmincraze]

1st XD semi's match over... Zhang/Xie bt Lee/Lee 15-10 15-9

Seems like the Koreans havent been doing well recently.... :( :(

and Zhu Lin took the 1st game from Zhang Ning :eek: :eek: 11-7

[SmartCivet]

zhang ning beat zhu lin 6:11 11:8 11:5

gao/huang beat zhang/zhao 15:1 15:4

[cxytdn]

CHN: CHEN, Jin DEN: OEDUM, Kaspar 15:2 15:8

[Brave_Turtle]

CHN: CHEN, Jin DEN: OEDUM, Kaspar 15:2 15:8

Woww convincing win^^

I think CJ is ready now.

[SmartCivet]

in the qulification:
lu lan beat BAHARUM Norsyahliza 2-1(11:6 9:11 11:4)
lu lun beat Firdasari, Adrianti 2-0(11:8 11:7)

1st round:
lu lan beat SEO, Yoon Hee 2-0(11:8 11:6)

2nd round:
lu lan beat xu huaiwen 2-1(11:5 6:11 11:6)

quarter final:
lu lan beat xie xingfang 2-1(6:11 11:6 11:5)

semi final:
lu lan beat wang chen 2-1(10:13 11:6 11:8)

For lulan no any easy match into the final, let's see her performance in the final.

[blckknght]

Maybe the Kiwis will pull an upset, but the odds are pretty high against them...
at the moment, Robert Blair and Anthony Clark look pretty good for the title. If they beat Njoto/Liu, they will face either Lee Yong Dae/Jung Jae Sung or Keita Matsuda/Tadashi Ohtsuka in the final

[madbad]

in the qulification:
lu lan beat BAHARUM Norsyahliza 2-1(11:6 9:11 11:4)
lu lun beat Firdasari, Adrianti 2-0(11:8 11:7)

1st round:
lu lan beat SEO, Yoon Hee 2-0(11:8 11:6)

2nd round:
lu lan beat xu huaiwen 2-1(11:5 6:11 11:6)

quarter final:
lu lan beat xie xingfang 2-1(6:11 11:6 11:5)

semi final:
lu lan beat wang chen 2-1(10:13 11:6 11:8)

For lulan no any easy match into the final, let's see her performance in the final.

With so many 3 setters so far, I wonder if she will finally run out of gas against ZN. Regardless, she is just ANOTHER in the line of upcoming Chinese WS players to shine in international competition. She 's surely thrown her hat into the ring for the 3rd WS spot for the China Uber Cup Team. The Chinese are so stacked in WS it's SICK. They could easily put out two contending Uber Cup teams.

Hopefully Lu Lan will put up a good effort against ZN in the final.

[cxytdn]

ENG: CLARK, Anthony/ENG: BLAIR, Robert bt HKG: LIU, Kwok Wa/HKG: NJOTO, Albertus Susant 15:0 15:5

[**KZ**]

go Kiwis.....got no M'sians to cheer for..so cheer for the Kiwis...

[Badmincraze]

go Kiwis.....got no M'sians to cheer for..so cheer for the Kiwis...

pretty tight game now .... Go Go Go !!! :D

[badMania]

With so many 3 setters so far, I wonder if she will finally run out of gas against ZN. Regardless, she is just ANOTHER in the line of upcoming Chinese WS players to shine in international competition. She 's surely thrown her hat into the ring for the 3rd WS spot for the China Uber Cup Team. The Chinese are so stacked in WS it's SICK. They could easily put out two contending Uber Cup teams.

Hopefully Lu Lan will put up a good effort against ZN in the final.

It's Firda's bad luck to face Lu Lan in the qualifiers...

[xt6666]

Lin Dan - Chen Hong: 13:15 (game 1)

I think Lin Dan was leading 13:10...

[2cents]

I'm going against the odds and predict that Chen Hong wins it :p



So Bao is not taking part in AE anymore??? But from his official website, there was news that he would still go for AE... :confused: :confused: Anyway, hope he can play next week.

I am also rooting for Chen Jin !! Hope to see 2 Chens in the finals .. hee hee :D

Chen vs Chen is good. I saw their playing last October twice in a week with split results. Hong looked more powerful but less agile than Jin. Anyway, Lin Dan looked more aggressive than both Chens.

[2cents]

Chen vs Chen is good. I saw their playing last October twice in a week with split results. Hong looked more powerful but less agile than Jin. Anyway, Lin Dan looked more aggressive than both Chens.

At the beginning of this year, Li Yongbo answered question from reporters who's going to the Thomas cup, Li said Chen Jin would be the 3rd men's single. But he did not mention who would be the 1st and the 2nd. I assume that Lin Dan should be the 1st, but not sure about the 2nd. The 2nd could be Chen Hong or Bao CL. I don't know what's in Li Yongbo's mind. I think Chen Hong is much better than Bao CL while Bao CL holds higher ranking. What you guys think?

[xt6666]

Lin Dan - Chen Hong: 13:15 (game 1)

I think Lin Dan was leading 13:10...



LIN DAN WINS GAME 2: 15:10

[hcpoirot]

At the beginning of this year, Li Yongbo answered question from reporters who's going to the Thomas cup, Li said Chen Jin would be the 3rd men's single. But he did not mention who would be the 1st and the 2nd. I assume that Lin Dan should be the 1st, but not sure about the 2nd. The 2nd could be Chen Hong or Bao CL. I don't know what's in Li Yongbo's mind. I think Chen Hong is much better than Bao CL while Bao CL holds higher ranking. What you guys think?

Its probably depend on the opponent.

Example : if China met Indonesia and the second single is Taufik, China will 100% play BCL.

China have 5 good MS now, LD, BCL, CH, CJ and XXZ. So they had lot of choices to pick for Thomas single. Even if LD and BCL didn't play and CH,CJ and XXZ play the three singles, any other countries had to fight real hard to beat the three of them.

So jealous...:p Wish Indonesia quickly find another Taufik, or it will be over for us for few years ahead.

[2cents]

LIN DAN WINS GAME 2: 15:10

but Chen Hong looks like taking control in the 3rd set at the end.

[hcpoirot]

Another thought:

Same for Uber Cup. Even if they rest ZN and XXF, it will be impossible for other countries to beat China.

Example:

First WS : Zhu Lin
First double : Yang/Zhang
Second WS : Lu Lan
Second double : Gao/Huang
Three WS : WangLin, Jiang YJ or Wang YH

[hcpoirot]

The two Chen will meet in tomorrow final! Chen Hong VS Chen Jin! Who will won? Prediction: 50:50

[edwin]

At the beginning of this year, Li Yongbo answered question from reporters who's going to the Thomas cup, Li said Chen Jin would be the 3rd men's single. But he did not mention who would be the 1st and the 2nd. I assume that Lin Dan should be the 1st, but not sure about the 2nd. The 2nd could be Chen Hong or Bao CL. I don't know what's in Li Yongbo's mind. I think Chen Hong is much better than Bao CL while Bao CL holds higher ranking. What you guys think?
If Sony's ranking goes ahead of Taufik's ranking prior to Thomas Cup (due to the lack of touranment that Taufik is playing), Bao Chunlai will more likely be China's second single when China plays against Indonesia. Bao has a much better record against Taufik than Chen Hong.

But so many things may have been changed since the beginning of this year. Maybe Li will change his mind about Chen Jin being the 3rd singles when Thomas Cup finals arrive.

[felicialim]

I think Chen Hong is much better than Bao CL while Bao CL holds higher ranking. What you guys think?

agree with you. Chen Hong has beaten Lin Dan a few times alr. He is better than Bao Chun Lai. The malaysian players have a harder time and tougher match playing against Chen Hong compared to playing against Chun Lai.

[yuval_ba]

LIN Dan - CHEN Hong: 13:15 15:10 8:15 !!!
it is very impressive how CH can keep beating LD while he usually have problems against Peter Gade who has very hard time with LD.
I hope someone can share a video of the match soon ...

a bit off topic, but does anyone knows where to check players Head-to-Head now with the new IBF website ?

[felicialim]

a bit off topic, but does anyone knows where to check players Head-to-Head now with the new IBF website ?

i couldn't find it too.

[2cents]

MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan vs Chen Hong (Lin probably win in 3 sets or two tight sets)
Chen Jin vs Kaspar Oedum ( Chen had a very big chance to reach his first IBF final.)
Will Simon be punished by PBSI cause he failed to made it to SF?


MEN'S DOUBLES QUARTER FINAL

Anthony Clark/Robert Blair vs Liu Kwok Wa/Albertus Susanto Njoto
Tadashi Ohtsuka/Keita Masuda VS Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae(MATCH OF THE ROUND) Korea had a new hope in this pair.


WOMEN'S SINGLES
Zhang Ning vs Zhu Lin
Wang Chen VS Lu Lan (MATCH OF THE ROUND) Can Lu Lan made another giant killer after beating Xu Huai Wen and XXF?



WOMEN’S DOUBLES
After China WYL/ZTT and ZD/ZYW switch each other into new pairs, they successfully won again Lee/Lee from Korea which they never did before. Look like this new formation work.

Gao Ling/Huang Sui vs Zhang Dan/Zhao Tingting
Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen VS Zhang Yawen/Wei Yili



MIXED DOUBLES
Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Daniel Shirley/Sara Runesten-Petersenvs Zhang Jun/Gao Ling
So far ZJ/ GL had a very nice draw through SF.

Pretty good prediction. You got all doubles correct, half singles correctly which result in 80% correct overall. Even the two predicatons went the other way, you also indicated that they were tought calls.

[hcpoirot]

Pretty good prediction. You got all doubles correct, half singles correctly which result in 80% correct overall. Even the two predicatons went the other way, you also indicated that they were tought calls.

The suprise here is Lu Lan. :cool:

Cause she realy had a tough draw since qualification. Then she won XHW, XXF and WC in 3 tough sets. She really had a lot of stamina. Hope she still got it tomorrow or ZN will steam roll her.

[fast3r]

LIN Dan - CHEN Hong: 13:15 15:10 8:15 !!!
it is very impressive how CH can keep beating LD while he usually have problems against Peter Gade who has very hard time with LD.
I hope someone can share a video of the match soon ...

a bit off topic, but does anyone knows where to check players Head-to-Head now with the new IBF website ?

Don't forget that Chen and Lin train together so they know each other's game inside out, so Chen will know exactly how to beat Lin

[virusvoodoo]

Don't forget that Chen and Lin train together so they know each other's game inside out, so Chen will know exactly how to beat Lin

Well the same advantage goes to Lin also but I guess this time Chen pulls through due to his stronger determination.

[yingcheng]

wow!! Lu Lan is really a giant killer in German Open!!

i remember Lu Lan won ZN in China National Games(in the ladeis' group), letz see can she give us surprise again!

in my memory(lazy to find the records as the IBF website is not user-friendly now, pls correct me if i am wrong), only XXF can beat Zhang Ning in all 2005 international tournaments..is ZN really unbeatable? i hope Lu Lan can do that..

[Brave_Turtle]

CH wins it!!! My prediction was good :p

But I'd rather not do any prediction for tomorrow as I haven't seen CJ enough

[badMania]

Its probably depend on the opponent.

Example : if China met Indonesia and the second single is Taufik, China will 100% play BCL.

China have 5 good MS now, LD, BCL, CH, CJ and XXZ. So they had lot of choices to pick for Thomas single. Even if LD and BCL didn't play and CH,CJ and XXZ play the three singles, any other countries had to fight real hard to beat the three of them.

So jealous...:p Wish Indonesia quickly find another Taufik, or it will be over for us for few years ahead.

Are you kidding? Indonesia will never play Taufik as second singles because the team formation is based on ranking. So, unless Sony rises up the ranking tables before the Thomas Cup final, its nearly impossible to see them fielding Sony as first singles.

Team Indonesia is really having a hard time finding a good singles player. But that's partly due to their own unwillingness to field the young players in overseas tournaments. Chen Jin's meteoric rise is one further testament that no matter how much trainings one have, it's important to have the match experience against top pairs. Chen Jin is used to losing in the early rounds. But once his moments come, eg: in Denmark Open and China Open, he really shows he's a star for the future. Unfortunately for Team Indonesia's case, Simon doesn't even come close.....what a pity.....

[Badmincraze]

Yeah !!! So it's really 2 Chens in the finals !!!

Great exposure for Chen Jin !!! Go Go Go!!!:D

[Wildstone]

LIN Dan - CHEN Hong: 13:15 15:10 8:15 !!!
it is very impressive how CH can keep beating LD while he usually have problems against Peter Gade who has very hard time with LD.

another typical example of how badminton is not like math ...

"A" might beat "B" with no problems but will have hard time with "C" while B can beat "C" easily with no problems.

it all depends on the style of playing and how good you can look through your opponent.

[Ben Beckman]

peter gade might not have beaten lin dan but the last encounter was a really close encounter and could of gone either way.


it is just like wildstone said, depends on the style of your opponent and how that suits your game.

[jamesd20]

Ch struggles against gade because Gade is attacking and accurate so gives little chance to CH.

LD is not really suited to CH game as he is very accurate and Attacking like gade, but CH is very very fit and LD likes to rally and defend too much, and not take control of the game. LD stamina also not as good as CH.


CH is getting better with age. I keep saying this over again, but when CH more patient not smash smash all the time, he is almost a complete player (just needs to improve his defence.)

Maybe Gao ling is a good influence on Him. He is a tremendous athlete with near perfect technique and should be able to play for many more years (longer than LD IMHO)

IF CH reaches Final in AE2006, it will be his 5th Final appearance in 6 years! a tremendous record, maybe only Hartono can match it.

[nugroho]

IF CH reaches Final in AE2006, it will be his 5th Final appearance in 6 years! a tremendous record, maybe only Hartono can match it.[/QUOTE]
hartono won AE for 6 times.. not only reached the final:)

[jamesd20]

I meant Only hartono, can beat it, not match it. Sorry.

CH can only dream of reaching Hartonos' record at the AE.

[eskey]

hartono won AE for 6 times.. not only reached the final:)

not 6 but 8 times

[2cents]

not 6 but 8 times

Though Hartono got many AE titles, there were no Chinese playing, so those titles were not as difficult as today. Many people thought that Hou JiaChang and Tang Xianhu were better than Hartono. Are there any head 2 head records available between Hartono with Hou and Tang?

[jamesd20]

Though Hartono got many AE titles, there were no Chinese playing, so those titles were not as difficult as today. Many people thought that Hou JiaChang and Tang Xianhu were better than Hartono. Are there any head 2 head records available between Hartono with Hou and Tang?

Try a search for this query. There are many threads comparing these players

(Only a premptive post, not in any way malicious)Remember the title of the thread is German open. I deviated to look forward to AE (sorry Kwun!), and now we are in danger of starting a new topic completely unrelated.