View Full Version : All England 2006 Day 1 (Wednesday, 18 Jan)


badMania
01-17-2006, 11:36 PM
Finally, the first major event of the year, the All England 2006 will begin in just a matter of hours. The matches today will cover MS Round 1 and 2 (48 matches), WS Round 1 (16 matches), MD Round 1 (16 matches), and XD Round 1 (16 matches).

As usual, here's the pick of today's matches and predicted winners from these selected matches:

Men's Singles Round 1
Arvind Bhat vs Wong Choong Hann
Aamir Ghaffar vs Zhang Yi
Kenneth Jonassen vs Sho Sasaki
Nicholas Kidd vs Wu Yunyong
Chen Jin vs Mohd Hafiz Hashim (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Park Sung Hwan vs Peter Gade
Bobby Milroy vs Kuan Beng Hong
Chetan Anand vs Lee Hyun Il
Lee Tsuen Seng vs Sony Dwi Kuncoro

Women's Singles Round 1
Eriko Hirose vs Judith Meulendijks
Hwang Hye Youn vs Salkjit Ponsana (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Jiang Yanjiao vs Camilla Sorenssen
Tine Rasmussen vs Lee Hyun Jin
Julia Mann vs Wong Mew Choo

Men's Doubles Round 1
Liu Kwok Wa/Albertus Susanto Njoto vs Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae
Hwang Ji Man/Han Sang Hoon vs Sudket Prapakamol/Patapol Ngernsrisuk (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Jung Tae Kuk/Lee Jae Jin vs Shuichi Nakao/Shuichi Sakamoto

Mixed Doubles Round 1
Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager vs Daniel Shirley/Sara Runesten-Petersen (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
David Lindley/Suzanne Rayappan vs Simon Archer/Ella Tripp
Robert Blair/Natalie Munt vs Koo Kien Keat/Wong Pei Tty

hcyong
01-18-2006, 01:01 AM
For the MS, today both the first and second rounds will be played.

Predictions of survivors after today:
1st quarter
Lin Dan (moderately irritating first-round encounter with Jang Young Soo)
Wong Choong Hann (Zhang Yi is an unknown quantity)
Kenneth Jonassen
Sairol Amar Ayob (relatively easy draw)

2nd quarter
Lee Chong Wei
Wu Yunyong (to upset Kaldau)
Chen Hong
Yeoh Kay Bin (call me stupid, but I think he can take on Druzchenko and then upset Shon Seung Mo)

3rd quarter
Boonsak Ponsana
Chen Jin (to take out Hafiz)
Ng Wei
Peter Gade (first round encounter with Park Sung Hwan, another unlucky Korean)

4th quarter
Kuan Beng Hong (he has to take out Bobby Milroy first)
Lee Hyun Il
Sony Dwi Kuncoro (to take out Lee Tsuen Seng and then Shoji Sato)
Bao Chunlai

hcyong
01-18-2006, 01:07 AM
Women's Singles Round 1
Eriko Hirose vs Judith Meulendijks
Hwang Hye Youn vs Salkjit Ponsana (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Jiang Yanjiao vs Camilla Sorenssen
Tine Rasmussen vs Lee Hyun Jin
Julia Mann vs Wong Mew Choo

Men's Doubles Round 1
Liu Kwok Wa/Albertus Susanto Njoto vs Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae
Hwang Ji Man/Han Sang Hoon vs Sudket Prapakamol/Patapol Ngernsrisuk (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Jung Tae Kuk/Lee Jae Jin vs Shuichi Nakao/Shuichi Sakamoto

Mixed Doubles Round 1
Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager vs Daniel Shirley/Sara Runesten-Petersen (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
David Lindley/Suzanne Rayappan vs Simon Archer/Ella Tripp
Robert Blair/Natalie Munt vs Koo Kien Keat/Wong Pei Tty

Agree except:
WS
Hwang beat Ponsana
Tine Rasmussen bt Lee Hyun Jin

MD
Hwang/Han bt Sudket/Patapol

XD
Archer/Tripp bt Lindley/Rayappan
Koo/Wong bt Blair/Munt

seven
01-18-2006, 02:21 AM
Competition starting by the MS this morning.

Does anyone know if there is live scoring somewhere?

Loh
01-18-2006, 02:49 AM
Agree except:
WS
Hwang beat Ponsana
Tine Rasmussen bt Lee Hyun Jin


Nice to note that Tine Rasmussen is playing. The last time I saw this impressive lady was about 2 years ago during the Singapore Open. Unfortunately she injured her ankle? and her progress was prematurely terminated. Touted as a replacement for Camilla Martin, I hope she has fully recovered and is able to demonstrate her array of strokes and footwork during this AE. All the best, Tine! :)

rwchen
01-18-2006, 03:04 AM
I have the same problem. I could not find the livescore anywhere..??



Competition starting by the MS this morning.

Does anyone know if there is live scoring somewhere?

rwchen
01-18-2006, 03:25 AM
The livescore is up now at http://www.247.tv/?men=PAGE13, just need to register as a user.

I have the same problem. I could not find the livescore anywhere..??

**KZ**
01-18-2006, 03:57 AM
wonder what way will the Hafiz..Chen Jin match go..
It really depends on Hafiz's form..he is very inconsistent..
hope he is on the form when he won it back 2 years ago..
M'sia boleh!!!
besides..the live scoring is very inefficient..

coops241180
01-18-2006, 04:21 AM
Agree except:
WS
Hwang beat Ponsana
Tine Rasmussen bt Lee Hyun Jin

MD
Hwang/Han bt Sudket/Patapol

XD
Archer/Tripp bt Lindley/Rayappan
Koo/Wong bt Blair/Munt

good corrections hcyong... you should set up a betting stand at the NIA - you could make a fortune as a bookie :)

One further addition - seeing that Michael Edge lost to Aamir Ghaffars opponent yesterday and Michael can beat Aamir i wouldn't be surprised to see Aamirs game go the full distance and Aamir lose..
nor would i be surprised to see Nick Kidd lose

the rest of the england MS look okay. Rajeev should have a good game against Boonsak, but Boonsak is improving but Rajeev is Euro Junior Champion so great things can be expected from him in the future..

Archer and Tripp vs Lindley and Rayapanne will be a good one to see.. shame the england mixed pairs appear to be takign each other out along the way :( if Archer/Tripp win today they will have taken out two of our younger and more promising mixed pairs which in my opinion is a great shame since Archer ain't coming back after this year and is also past it in my opinion.

Coops

Morten
01-18-2006, 04:42 AM
The livescore is WAY to slow :( ... Again SSM seems to have trouble defeating a lesser ranked player. Think hes a lot out of shape or even in a early ageburnout :eek:

other
01-18-2006, 04:53 AM
is there anywhere to see the results of the finished matches?

seven
01-18-2006, 04:53 AM
The live scoring sure is very crap, and the finished matches aren't updated in the results! :(
All England's website used to be much better the other years!!! :(

yannie
01-18-2006, 04:54 AM
The Livescore boards sucks...
I don't know whether the CJ vs MHH match has started? Anyone tell me...
It says 10.40 English time!?

Loh
01-18-2006, 04:55 AM
The livescore is WAY to slow :( ... Again SSM seems to have trouble defeating a lesser ranked player. Think hes a lot out of shape or even in a early ageburnout :eek:

Agree with both. Terribly disappointed with the Olympics Silver Medalist! :mad:

coops241180
01-18-2006, 04:58 AM
hmmm - the livescoring is appaling..
why not use the same system as they did for the copenhagen masters, or the same version as the world championships..

they've tried to make it look sooooo pretty -

BAofE

your choice of live scoring software sucks!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Coops

**KZ**
01-18-2006, 05:11 AM
The Livescore boards sucks...
I don't know whether the CJ vs MHH match has started? Anyone tell me...
It says 10.40 English time!?


yes the match has started yannie...but the score update is just so sucky..it's just damn slow..

yannie
01-18-2006, 05:11 AM
yes the match has started yannie...but the score update is just so sucky..it's just damn slow..

CHEN JIN 8-5 MHH

Loh
01-18-2006, 05:13 AM
CHEN JIN 8-5 MHH


You're luckier! Mine shows CJ trailing 3-5! :crying:

**KZ**
01-18-2006, 05:13 AM
CHEN JIN 8-5 MHH


wat?:eek:
mine shows MHH 5-3 Chen Jin

Loh
01-18-2006, 05:15 AM
By the way, do you know what CJ stands for here?

yannie
01-18-2006, 05:15 AM
By the way, do you know what CJ stands for here?

Nope, Chen Jin?

yannie
01-18-2006, 05:17 AM
It says 11-11 now

Loh
01-18-2006, 05:18 AM
Nope, Chen Jin?

He's the mighty Chief Justice!!!

So opponents of CJ, please don't underestimate CJ for he can do wonders with the law - his racket! :p

**KZ**
01-18-2006, 05:20 AM
mine shows chen jin n MHH 11-all now

magical_phoenix
01-18-2006, 05:22 AM
Chen Jin 13-11 MHH

hcyong
01-18-2006, 05:24 AM
Chen Jin 13-11 MHH

Wow close match. Looks like Hafiz is not playing badly.

yannie
01-18-2006, 05:26 AM
He's the mighty Chief Justice!!!

So opponents of CJ, please don't underestimate CJ for he can do wonders with the law - his racket! :p

Haha, great!!! I know he can..... omgggggg now..... 14-14

nugroho
01-18-2006, 05:27 AM
it is sucksand alots of upsets ;)

**KZ**
01-18-2006, 05:29 AM
lin dan is really getting whipped by jang young soo...
anyway..go hafiz!!!

ants
01-18-2006, 05:29 AM
Go HafiZ! Hehehe

yannie
01-18-2006, 05:29 AM
CHEN Jin - 5/8* Muhd Hafiz HASHIM
1-0 ( 17-14, 0-2 )

yannie
01-18-2006, 05:30 AM
Go HafiZ! Hehehe

No, Ants, NO!!! :p

magical_phoenix
01-18-2006, 05:31 AM
Way to go Chen Jin!! 17-14!! Go take the second set!

belfastnole2
01-18-2006, 05:31 AM
lin dan 13-3 down in first set:eek: does he want to play 3 sets:confused:

andymcg
01-18-2006, 05:31 AM
Lin Dan 13-3 down in 1st set vs Jang Young-Soo


This live score is unbelievably bad.....I can't flick between courts. Its so unresponsive :mad:

andymcg
01-18-2006, 05:34 AM
Lin Dan lost 1st set 15-5.

Loh
01-18-2006, 05:34 AM
No, Ants, NO!!! :p

Surely it is fair for each to support his/her countryman?

But for me, I'll say: May the better player win. :D

nugroho
01-18-2006, 05:34 AM
lindan lost 1 set 5 - 15 wow:eek: what an upset!!!

yannie
01-18-2006, 05:35 AM
Lin Dan lost 1st set 15-5.

what the..... jia you super dandan!!!

yannie
01-18-2006, 05:35 AM
Surely it is fair for each to support his/her countryman?

But for me, I'll say: May the better player win. :D

haha, i was just teasing ants :p

coops241180
01-18-2006, 05:37 AM
lol.. perhaps dan is getting a feel for the courts and the atmosphere - or perhaps because taufik isn't there he's not bothering???? could it be that without his arch nemesis the world no.1 feels that he has nothing to prove?

Coops

ants
01-18-2006, 05:37 AM
I hope Hafiz will win over CJ. heheh CJ is still young.. win next time.

yannie
01-18-2006, 05:38 AM
1. Cj 17-14 Mhh
2. Cj 3-3 Mhh

Loh
01-18-2006, 05:41 AM
lindan lost 1 set 5 - 15 wow:eek: what an upset!!!

Goodness me! I wonder what it would be like if Taufik is in the same dilemma? Indra has high hopes for LD, who is in the same league as TH! :cool:

yannie
01-18-2006, 05:45 AM
1. Cj 17-14 Mhh
2. Cj 10-5 Mhh:d

meiying
01-18-2006, 05:45 AM
hopefully hafiz can win the second set..

andymcg
01-18-2006, 05:46 AM
Chen Jin 10-5 up in second set?

Loh
01-18-2006, 05:54 AM
Chen Jin 10-5 up in second set?

Would you all consider this an upset - if CJ should prevail over Hafiz? ;)

yannie
01-18-2006, 05:55 AM
Would you all consider this an unpset - if CJ should prevail over Hafiz? ;)

Loh, I won't for sure. :D

yannie
01-18-2006, 06:04 AM
ok my livescore website is now dead.... anyone knows the score between cj and mhh?

Badmincraze
01-18-2006, 06:04 AM
So watz the latest score ??? I cant get the livescore webby going!!! :mad:

ants
01-18-2006, 06:06 AM
Even the livescore is not helping yannie hehhe :P

Loh
01-18-2006, 06:08 AM
Hey, how come no more comments on the CJ-HH match? My score here still stand at 10-5, in CJ's favour! :(

magical_phoenix
01-18-2006, 06:09 AM
Mine went dead, too.. What is happening to Chen Jin?? What's happening to Lin DAn?? Aiyoo..

**KZ**
01-18-2006, 06:11 AM
it's six feet under for me too...man it sucks..
lee tsuen seng bt sony 15-5 1st game...
back on form or is it sony?

felicialim
01-18-2006, 06:11 AM
Lin Dan won the second set 15-9



Mine went dead, too.. What is happening to Chen Jin?? What's happening to Lin DAn?? Aiyoo..

Loh
01-18-2006, 06:14 AM
Mine went dead, too.. What is happening to Chen Jin?? What's happening to Lin DAn?? Aiyoo..

Well, I got here that Lin Dan won the second game 15-9. It seems to confirm that he is a slow starter. Jia You, LD! Show us you can beat the Korean again. ;)

ants
01-18-2006, 06:15 AM
CJ win already Yannie. Dont worry about it.

**KZ**
01-18-2006, 06:15 AM
well...i think hafiz lost...damn..he's not on the scoreboard no more..

yannie
01-18-2006, 06:16 AM
CJ win already Yannie. Dont worry about it.
With what score, ants? :D

magical_phoenix
01-18-2006, 06:17 AM
Well, I got here that Lin Dan won the second game 15-9. It seems to confirm that he is a slow starter. Jia You, LD! Show us you can beat the Korean again. ;)

Thx felicialim, thanks Loh! Hahaha.. Yeah.. he's a very slow starter, like a diesel engine. Jia you, LD!!!

nugroho
01-18-2006, 06:21 AM
and again.. sony can not prove him selve... what's wrong with indonesia?

yannie
01-18-2006, 06:24 AM
and again.. sony can not prove him selve... what's wrong with indonesia?

i dont know whats wrong..... magical phoenix doesnt really support indo anyway hehehe.. so nvm her location :o

Loh
01-18-2006, 06:25 AM
With what score, ants? :D

Ants already very sad
Missy, don't make him so mad
Score must be so very bad
So salt on wound, please don't add

:crying: :crying: :crying:

magical_phoenix
01-18-2006, 06:25 AM
i dont know whats wrong..... magical phoenix doesnt really support indo anyway hehehe.. so nvm her location :o

Sshhhh, yannie!!! I haven't even got the guts to tell my coach, now u tell everyone else here!! I hope my coach is not a BC member. LOL!!! :o :p

yannie
01-18-2006, 06:29 AM
Ants already very sad
Missy, don't make him so mad
Score must be so very bad
So salt on wound, please don't add

:crying: :crying: :crying:

HAHAHAHAHA, u're funny loh!!! awww poor ants, ok then i won't ask anymore :o i know ants is already heartbroken and all

ants
01-18-2006, 06:30 AM
Ants already very sad
Missy, don't make him so mad
Score must be so very bad
So salt on wound, please don't add

:crying: :crying: :crying:

Hahah this is real funny. Loh the Poet.

siyad
01-18-2006, 06:32 AM
LIN Dan
- JANG Young-Soo
1
- 1
( 15-5, 9-15, 15-9 )

Loh
01-18-2006, 06:33 AM
Hahah this is real funny. Loh the Poet.

I happy that Ants is laughing now! :D

ants
01-18-2006, 06:34 AM
So lin dan won...

yannie
01-18-2006, 06:35 AM
So lin dan won...

are you happy ants? :o

Jin_ChenFan
01-18-2006, 06:37 AM
LIN Dan

- JANG Young-Soo
1
- 1
( 15-5, 9-15, 15-9 )


Lin Dan won first set?

ants
01-18-2006, 06:37 AM
are you happy ants? :o

As long you're happy i'm happy. :p

siyad
01-18-2006, 06:37 AM
So lin dan won...

Hey I dont understand the scoreboard. It said earlier that Lin lost the first set and won the second. The final score says he won the first and third. Confusing......

Loh
01-18-2006, 06:39 AM
Hey I dont understand the scoreboard. It said earlier that Lin lost the first set and won the second. The final score says he won the first and third. Confusing......

No, he lost the first and won the second and third games with identical scores of 15-9. ;)

rwchen
01-18-2006, 06:40 AM
It's confusing from the livescore, has Lin Dan won?

Badmincraze
01-18-2006, 06:42 AM
It's confusing from the livescore, has Lin Dan won?

Yup... Lin Dan has won!!

Now i'm more interested in the match between Lee Tsuen Seng n Sony... The score has been hung there for eternity............... :(

felicialim
01-18-2006, 06:43 AM
anyone knows who won? Chen Jin or Hafiz?

Loh
01-18-2006, 06:45 AM
Yup... Lin Dan has won!!

Now i'm more interested in the match between Lee Tsuen Seng n Sony... The score has been hung there for eternity............... :(

Seems like Tsuen Seng is in top form and may create another 'upset'. Frankly, there is no reason for Sony to underperform. I'm most disappointed. :(

Badmincraze
01-18-2006, 06:45 AM
anyone knows who won? Chen Jin or Hafiz?

Chen Jin.......:D

rwchen
01-18-2006, 06:46 AM
The last score I saw was Lee TS leading the second set at 10-5 after winning the first



Yup... Lin Dan has won!!

Now i'm more interested in the match between Lee Tsuen Seng n Sony... The score has been hung there for eternity............... :(

ants
01-18-2006, 06:46 AM
anyone knows who won? Chen Jin or Hafiz?

CJ menang lah. No comments from Hafiz this time.

felicialim
01-18-2006, 06:47 AM
Chen Jin.......:D

What's the score? Lately Hafiz has been performing badly

rwchen
01-18-2006, 06:47 AM
According to Ants, Chen Jin won, no score available.
anyone knows who won? Chen Jin or Hafiz?

yannie
01-18-2006, 06:47 AM
What's the score? Lately Hafiz has been performing badly
don't ask hahaha

Badmincraze
01-18-2006, 06:49 AM
What's the score? Lately Hafiz has been performing badly

Din manage to get the scores though... :o

Bao taking the 1st game n Peter leading 8-3 in his 1st game... Scores for these 2 matches are updating 'smoothly' and YET the match bet Lee n Sony is still HANGING there.... :mad: :mad:

Loh
01-18-2006, 06:49 AM
don't ask hahaha

You have that talent of learning very fast, congrats! :p

felicialim
01-18-2006, 06:51 AM
Din manage to get the scores though... :o

Bao taking the 1st game n Peter leading 8-3 in his 1st game... Scores for these 2 matches are updating 'smoothly' and YET the match bet Lee n Sony is still HANGING there.... :mad: :mad:

The score for the matches involving malaysian players alwiz hang. :crying:

yannie
01-18-2006, 06:52 AM
You have that talent of learning very fast, congrats! :p

thank you loh, i just want everyone to be joyful ;)

twdc08
01-18-2006, 06:59 AM
[QUOTE=yannie]thank you loh, i just want everyone to be joyful ;)[/QUOTE

how about the other results?

yannie
01-18-2006, 07:01 AM
[QUOTE=yannie]thank you loh, i just want everyone to be joyful ;)[/QUOTE

how about the other results?

http://www.247.tv/?men=PAGE13 here... if u cant see, then register first

keatz
01-18-2006, 07:03 AM
No, he lost the first and won the second and third games with identical scores of 15-9. ;)
I clicked on the 'live' icon next to the LinDan match - score shown is
LinDan:Jang Yong Soo - 15:5, 9:15, 15:9; maybe the initial score where LinDan lost the first game was wrong?

seven
01-18-2006, 07:04 AM
The score between Kasper Oedum and Eric Pang is interesting : 9-15 18-14 13-2 !!! :p

yannie
01-18-2006, 07:06 AM
The score between Kasper Oedum and Eric Pang is interesting : 9-15 18-14 13-2 !!! :p
i noticed that too...wacked... the german open livescore website is so much better!

nugroho
01-18-2006, 07:09 AM
sony lost 15-5 15-8:crying:

i dunno what to expect in this tournament:(

seven
01-18-2006, 07:10 AM
The real score seems to be : 9-15, 15-4, 15-2

Loh
01-18-2006, 07:11 AM
I clicked on the 'live' icon next to the LinDan match - score shown is
LinDan:Jang Yong Soo - 15:5, 9:15, 15:9; maybe the initial score where LinDan lost the first game was wrong?

Ya, I think so.

It should be LD 5-15, 15-9, 15-9. LD gave many a scare in the first game, particularly to Magic Pheonix (not Garuda) of Indonesia, who is LD's top fan! :p

PS: Don't let MP's coach know that he supports the Chinese WR 1. ;)

seven
01-18-2006, 07:13 AM
In fact it is better to look here : http://www.horizon-sport.com/wb/wb3/247/05draws/110290605105ibzz154l00001.htm
in order to get the correct end results.

Note that Lee Tsuen Seng bt Sony Dwi Kuncoro 15-5 15-8.
PBSI is "drowning" indonesian badminton... :(

nugroho
01-18-2006, 07:14 AM
take a look on the draw. it have been refill quite momment ago

yannie
01-18-2006, 07:15 AM
Ya, I think so.

It should be LD 5-15, 15-9, 15-9. LD gave many a scare in the first game, particularly to Magic Pheonix (not Garuda) of Indonesia, who is LD's top fan! :p

PS: Don't let MP's coach know that he supports the Chinese WR 1. ;)

Erm Loh, in fact MP is a girl... she is not LD's top fan hehe, she's FU HAIFENG's top fan hahahaha! But she supports all Chinese though :D

mickael yan
01-18-2006, 07:18 AM
http://www.horizon-sport.com/wb/wb3/247/05draws/110290605105ibzz155l00001.htm

1* LIN Dan 15-5, 9-15, 15-9 {81m}

Loh
01-18-2006, 07:28 AM
Erm Loh, in fact MP is a girl... she is not LD's top fan hehe, she's FU HAIFENG's top fan hahahaha! But she supports all Chinese though :D

Oh Yannie, thank you so much for the clarification. I'm so sorry to assume that MP is male as 'she' came by to watch the Singapore Open 2005 with her siblings (?). No wonder she said that her parents were not sure whether to allow her to travel to Singapore, but she managed to convince them and I was glad she enjoyed herself during her short stay here.
But, of course the Pheonix is the opposite of the Dragon and I should have known! :o Please forgive me MP. :)

With Yannie, I initially mixed her up with the great musician, Yani. But her delightful face in all those pics with the professionals all at once cleared my doubts about her gender. Btw, Yannie, why don't you tell us more about yourself. I know you're very young and perhaps studying in Denmark. How long have you been there and how's your Danish? What are your plans and when do you intend to return to China to polish up on your badminton? ;)

pauline
01-18-2006, 07:38 AM
my heart sank....sad to hear Hafiz lost:( ...

eskey
01-18-2006, 07:41 AM
sony lost 15-5 15-8:crying:

i dunno what to expect in this tournament:(

to me, i expect that PBSI will realize their mistake for not sending players regularly into the tournaments :D

let see what happen to the MD later on, see whether PBSI will learn their lesson or not :(

magical_phoenix
01-18-2006, 07:44 AM
Oh Yannie, thank you so much for the clarification. I'm so sorry to assume that MP is male as 'she' came by to watch the Singapore Open 2005 with her siblings (?). No wonder she said that her parents were not sure whether to allow her to travel to Singapore, but she managed to convince them and I was glad she enjoyed herself during her short stay here.
But, of course the Pheonix is the opposite of the Dragon and I should have known! :o Please forgive me MP. :)

With Yannie, I initially mixed her up with the great musician, Yani. But her delightful face in all those pics with the professionals all at once cleared my doubts about her gender. Btw, Yannie, why don't you tell us more about yourself. I know you're very young and perhaps studying in Denmark. How long have you been there and how's your Danish? What are your plans and when do you intend to return to China to polish up on your badminton? ;)

All as yannie said.. Hahaha. I'm a Chinese supporter, esp Fu Haifeng, but a pretentious Indon supporter at my badmin training place.. Shhhhh

You're definitely forgiven, Loh, since u made my mom convinced to let me go to SG. And I had a superb time, one of the best in my life. All thanks to u! We should have met there. Hahaha.

I dunno what you mean by Phoenix is the opposite to Dragon, but I call myself Phoenix Girl while yannie calls herself Dragon Girl. We're not opposite of each other. In fact, we're soulmates. :D :D

Stuart2502
01-18-2006, 07:47 AM
http://www.horizon-sport.com/wb/wb3/247/05draws/110290605105ibzz155l00001.htm

1* LIN Dan 15-5, 9-15, 15-9 {81m}

Much better website! Many thanks Mickael

jasonmarc
01-18-2006, 07:50 AM
Any more results? Pls keep posting....TQ:confused:

**KZ**
01-18-2006, 07:51 AM
All as yannie said.. Hahaha. I'm a Chinese supporter, esp Fu Haifeng, but a pretentious Indon supporter at my badmin training place.. Shhhhh

You're definitely forgiven, Loh, since u made my mom convinced to let me go to SG. And I had a superb time, one of the best in my life. All thanks to u! We should have met there. Hahaha.

I dunno what you mean by Phoenix is the opposite to Dragon, but I call myself Phoenix Girl while yannie calls herself Dragon Girl. We're not opposite of each other. In fact, we're soulmates. :D :D


there was once a mean and possibly mad..unforgiving teacher that taught my sis and they call her the "dragon lady"....:)

magical_phoenix
01-18-2006, 07:54 AM
there was once a mean and possibly mad..unforgiving teacher that taught my sis and they call her the "dragon lady"....:)
yannie is definitely not mean, mad nor unforgiving.. She is one of the nicest girls that I know.. Hahahaha.

jasonmarc
01-18-2006, 07:55 AM
there was once a mean and possibly mad..unforgiving teacher that taught my sis and they call her the "dragon lady"....:)

curios! what "Dragon Lady" means??:confused:

yannie
01-18-2006, 08:21 AM
Oh Yannie, thank you so much for the clarification. I'm so sorry to assume that MP is male as 'she' came by to watch the Singapore Open 2005 with her siblings (?). No wonder she said that her parents were not sure whether to allow her to travel to Singapore, but she managed to convince them and I was glad she enjoyed herself during her short stay here.
But, of course the Pheonix is the opposite of the Dragon and I should have known! :o Please forgive me MP. :)

With Yannie, I initially mixed her up with the great musician, Yani. But her delightful face in all those pics with the professionals all at once cleared my doubts about her gender. Btw, Yannie, why don't you tell us more about yourself. I know you're very young and perhaps studying in Denmark. How long have you been there and how's your Danish? What are your plans and when do you intend to return to China to polish up on your badminton? ;)

As magical_phoenix has said, we're soulmates! We're really close to each other!
No problem about mixing me up with Yanni, a lot of people ask me if I'm a big fan of Yanni, but yannie (with an E) is just an often used nickname of mine.
Well, I turn 18 this year (young, yes) and I'm in my last ½ year of high school. I've been in Denmark since summer 1995, so it's a long time already! Grown up in Fuzhou, Fujian. Awww I miss this city so much! (Btw if anyone is interested the Chinese players go to Fuzhou to train for 40 - 50 days in February)
My Danish is fluent, same with English and Chinese. Although Bao sometimes laugh at my Chinese :o I also speak some German and French...
Future plans? Study at a Danish Uni... maybe University of Copenhagen and then go back to China to work :D
And btw, I don't really play badminton hehe, just a great fan of the sport!

seven
01-18-2006, 08:33 AM
My Danish is fluent, same with English and Chinese. Although Bao sometimes laugh at my Chinese :o I also speak some German and French...

Well, you sure can speak a lot of languages!!
Are you planning studying languages or something?

magical_phoenix
01-18-2006, 08:37 AM
Anyway, XD

Prapakamol/Thungthongkam 12-0 Tazari/Ooi

yannie
01-18-2006, 08:38 AM
Well, you sure can speak a lot of languages!!
Are you planning studying languages or something?

It's nice to know a lot of langs, but not really, I'm planning to study odontology or medicine :)

yannie
01-18-2006, 08:40 AM
Anyway, XD

Prapakamol/Thungthongkam 12-0 Tazari/Ooi

Ops..... back to badminton.... Jia You the Thais!!! :D

hcpoirot
01-18-2006, 09:04 AM
What's the score? Lately Hafiz has been performing badly

Its not that Hafiz performing badly but he just had bad draw. In Swiss Open he had to meet Xia Xuan Ze and lost. Now even worst draw, first round against China rising star Chen Jin. Btw, judging from the score, it was a tight match.

hcpoirot
01-18-2006, 09:10 AM
sony lost 15-5 15-8:crying:

i dunno what to expect in this tournament:(

I am speechless. How can Sonny lost to Lee Tsuen Seng who never at his top form again this couple of years. And of course LTS only rank 6-7 in his country.

And Thomas Cup qualification just less than a month. PBSI official must be in despair ow. If Luluk/Alven and Markis/Hendra also got bad results, it will be a big jeopardy for us in Thomas qualification. Not to mention Thomas Cup will used new score!

belfastnole2
01-18-2006, 09:10 AM
at least it was in the first set -gave up in the second?Its not that Hafiz performing badly but he just had bad draw. In Swiss Open he had to meet Xia Xuan Ze and lost. Now even worst draw, first round against China rising star Chen Jin. Btw, judging from the score, it was a tight match.

kokcheng
01-18-2006, 09:28 AM
Its not that Hafiz performing badly but he just had bad draw. In Swiss Open he had to meet Xia Xuan Ze and lost. Now even worst draw, first round against China rising star Chen Jin. Btw, judging from the score, it was a tight match.You are absolutely right.Most probably the weather has affected his game.On the other hand,let's not take the credit away from CJ.Watch out for this guy.He's definitely going for more scalps.

kokcheng
01-18-2006, 09:33 AM
I am speechless. How can Sonny lost to Lee Tsuen Seng who never at his top form again this couple of years. And of course LTS only rank 6-7 in his country.

And Thomas Cup qualification just less than a month. PBSI official must be in despair ow. If Luluk/Alven and Markis/Hendra also got bad results, it will be a big jeopardy for us in Thomas qualification. Not to mention Thomas Cup will used new score!Hopefully this win will inspire LTS to revive his sagging career.Mind you LTS was once a formidable player.

jaclyn
01-18-2006, 10:09 AM
can anyone tell me chan chong ming's condition,i saw the star paper said that he admited to hospital n are he going to play the all england!!plssss

ye333
01-18-2006, 10:50 AM
Its not that Hafiz performing badly but he just had bad draw. In Swiss Open he had to meet Xia Xuan Ze and lost. Now even worst draw, first round against China rising star Chen Jin. Btw, judging from the score, it was a tight match.
Watched several Hafiz games recently, including the World cup loss
to Chen jin, Copenhagen loss to Gade and Denmark open loss to Lee
Choongwei.

I think he really does not know how to win a game. Hafiz has superb technique, backhand effortless yet powerful, net play delicate and accurate (when he does not do those meaningless tricks), drop-smashes disguised yet lethal, footwork a pleasure to watch. However in every game, he just kept walking around in the court, seems never know when he should accelerate to give a lethal strike or to quickly go back the center to prepare for the opponents' attack. Not to mention his many useless netplay tricks.

If he can learn anything in the above respect from the games of Gade or
Lin Dan or Taufik, I say he can beat Chen Jin easily, just like Bao Chunlai and Lin Dan.

As to Chen Jin, I really do not see much talent in him. He is not as impressive as Taufik or Lin Dan or Bao Chunlai or even Xia Xuanze when they are around 20. That said, he is young, he is fast, and his technique is not bad, he should be able to take a few titles in the following few years. But I don't think he will be as successful as Lin Dan.
did.

felicialim
01-18-2006, 11:10 AM
i watched him playing too and agree withye333. He has a powerful backhand smash and good defence but he really doesn't know how to trick the opponent. He is not deceptive and he doens't use his chances wisely, where he should be able to end the services easily.

nugroho
01-18-2006, 11:17 AM
zhang jun gao ling lost? to korean pair? :rolleyes:

ye333
01-18-2006, 11:25 AM
i watched him playing too and agree withye333. He has a powerful backhand smash and good defence but he really doesn't know how to trick the opponent. He is not deceptive and he doens't use his chances wisely, where he should be able to end the services easily.

Exactly. Usually he tries to be deceptive just when no deception should be used. This gives a fast and young player like Chen Jin many many chances of
easy kills.

I don't know what Misbun is thinking. If Hafiz keeps playing like this, he will
not get any big title and his talent would be totally wasted. If he does not
like running in the court, he should watch some Zhao Jianhua games and
learn how one can keep the game pace kind of slow but still grasp every
chance of scoring.

Simp84
01-18-2006, 11:48 AM
Exactly. Usually he tries to be deceptive just when no deception should be used. This gives a fast and young player like Chen Jin many many chances of
easy kills.

I don't know what Misbun is thinking. If Hafiz keeps playing like this, he will
not get any big title and his talent would be totally wasted. If he does not
like running in the court, he should watch some Zhao Jianhua games and
learn how one can keep the game pace kind of slow but still grasp every
chance of scoring.
I think the problem is not with Misbun...
The problem is hafiz... He has no motivation and dicipline on court I think...
Or another more possible reason will be his knee... I think he is worried about recurring injury of his knee.. thats why he didn't go all out

cooler
01-18-2006, 11:53 AM
Watched several Hafiz games recently, including the World cup loss
to Chen jin, Copenhagen loss to Gade and Denmark open loss to Lee
Choongwei.

If he can learn anything in the above respect from the games of Gade or
Lin Dan or Taufik, I say he can beat Chen Jin easily, just like Bao Chunlai and Lin Dan.

As to Chen Jin, I really do not see much talent in him. He is not as impressive as Taufik or Lin Dan or Bao Chunlai or even Xia Xuanze when they are around 20. That said, he is young, he is fast, and his technique is not bad, he should be able to take a few titles in the following few years. But I don't think he will be as successful as Lin Dan.
did.

u do sound weird. CJ has not much talent but he had beaten peter G, Kenneth J and now beats the 'talented' Hafiz LOL

Come on, are u saying Hafiz has great skill and cant win while CJ has poor skill and can win is due to luck or astrology :confused:

Simp84
01-18-2006, 11:59 AM
u do sound weird. CJ has not much talent but he had beaten peter G, Kenneth J and now beats the 'talented' Hafiz LOL

Come on, are u saying Hafiz has great skill and cant win while CJ has poor skill and can win is due to luck or astrology :confused:
lol I think what hes trying to say is that he doesn't have a unique style of play...

djake
01-18-2006, 12:03 PM
zhang jun gao ling lost? to korean pair? :rolleyes:
Is that true ? What's the score

madbad
01-18-2006, 12:10 PM
u do sound weird. CJ has not much talent but he had beaten peter G, Kenneth J and now beats the 'talented' Hafiz LOL

Come on, are u saying Hafiz has great skill and cant win while CJ has poor skill and can win is due to luck or astrology :confused:

You can have all the skill and talent in the world but if you can't put it together in your head or have the heart and will, you won't win. Simple as that. That is the scourge of Malaysian players. As they say in golf, "drive for show, putt for dough".

ye333
01-18-2006, 12:15 PM
u do sound weird. CJ has not much talent but he had beaten peter G, Kenneth J and now beats the 'talented' Hafiz LOL

Come on, are u saying Hafiz has great skill and cant win while CJ has poor skill and can win is due to luck or astrology :confused:

Well, firstly, people with great skills often lose to people with less skill. Examples abound. Say all Zhao Jianhua's losses, many of Taufik's losses,
Sun Jun lost to Rasmussen, Chen Hong lost to Chen Jin, Chen Hong lost to Shon. Skill is by far not the only factor in winning a game. For example, techniquewise Lin Dan is inferior to Bao Chunlai, however Lin Dan can beat Bao easily.

I am not saying Chen Jin has poor skill. I am just saying his skill is not as impressive as Chen Hong, Bao Chunlai, Hafiz or Taufik; And his speed is not as impressive as Lin Dan or Lee Choongwei, or Xia Xuanze in 1999/2000. My impression after watching his recent winnings (last year over Wong Choonghann, Hafiz, and this year over Chen Hong) is that, he won because he is younger and faster. I also watched his 2004 (?) loss to Lin Dan. Even several years younger, he cannot catch up with Lin Dan's speed, and his technique does not seem to be better. I watched Lin Dan vs. Luo Yigang
recently, Lin Dan is 18 or something then, and he is much more impressive than today's Chen Jin.

I think Chen Jin has good skill, but not great skill. My prediction is that he will grab some titles in the following few years, but will not be a very important figure after 2010 (unless no new stars appear).

ye333
01-18-2006, 12:16 PM
lol I think what hes trying to say is that he doesn't have a unique style of play...
Ya... kind of. Maybe that is why I don't find him impressive.

cooler
01-18-2006, 12:22 PM
You can have all the skill and talent in the world but if you can't put it together in your head or have the heart and will, you won't win. Simple as that. That is the scourge of Malaysian players. As they say in golf, "drive for show, putt for dough".

I guess everybody have their own view on talent but saying like
"As to Chen Jin, I really do not see much talent in him." is pretty harsh considered that JC just came out Jr circuit last year. Real winners makes
winning look easy and/or unexciting. I have asked about hartono with another older badminton fan and he said he had watched hartono before and said hartono has no weakness and play consistently but not exciting to watch.

ye333
01-18-2006, 12:28 PM
I guess everybody have their own view on talent but saying like
"As to Chen Jin, I really do not see much talent in him." is pretty harsh considered that JC just came out Jr circuit last year. Real winners makes
winning look easy and/or unexciting. I have asked about hartono with another older badminton fan and he said he had watched hartono before and said hartono has no weakness and play consistently but not exciting to watch.

Ya... I may be too harsh. I am just trying to say that I don't think Chen Jin will be as good as Lin Dan (so fast!) or Taufik (so talented!) or Peter Gade/Sun Jun (so smart!)

btw, "no weakness" may not be exciting to watch, but should be really impressive. I think Joko kind of plays like that. He made mistakes at a constant rate, while his opponents usually have increasing curves. :-)

2cents
01-18-2006, 12:30 PM
u do sound weird. CJ has not much talent but he had beaten peter G, Kenneth J and now beats the 'talented' Hafiz LOL

Come on, are u saying Hafiz has great skill and cant win while CJ has poor skill and can win is due to luck or astrology :confused

Originally Posted by ye333
Watched several Hafiz games recently, including the World cup loss
to Chen jin, Copenhagen loss to Gade and Denmark open loss to Lee
Choongwei.

If he can learn anything in the above respect from the games of Gade or
Lin Dan or Taufik, I say he can beat Chen Jin easily, just like Bao Chunlai and Lin Dan.

As to Chen Jin, I really do not see much talent in him. He is not as impressive as Taufik or Lin Dan or Bao Chunlai or even Xia Xuanze when they are around 20. That said, he is young, he is fast, and his technique is not bad, he should be able to take a few titles in the following few years. But I don't think he will be as successful as Lin Dan.
did.:

Very interesting points.

From what Chen Jin himself told reporters after the match, he said he won the first set because of mental toughness, and he won the second set because he's young and full of energy while Hafiz ran out of gas in the 2nd.

He didn't mention anything about skills or talent. Does this imply that he lacks skills and talent? :rolleyes: I think talent is some kind of unusual ability to win the match or title, not the way to lose it. There are two elements in talent, one is unusual, the other is "to win". Anyhow, some people just forget the 2nd element, in their dictionary, talent=unusual, no matter it's a win or lose.

cooler
01-18-2006, 12:33 PM
Ya... I may be too harsh. I am just trying to say that I don't think Chen Jin will be as good as Lin Dan (so fast!) or Taufik (so talented!) or Peter Gade/Sun Jun (so smart!)

btw, "no weakness" may not be exciting to watch, but should be really impressive. I think Joko kind of plays like that. He made mistakes at a constant rate, while his opponents usually have increasing curves. :-)

then i would slot joko in the 'so smart' box of your as he is INA's head coach now.

djake
01-18-2006, 12:33 PM
Just noticed on the schedule for tomorrow that Shoji Sato is already through to the 3rd round. Did he receive a walkover from Lee Tsuen tseng ? Anyone know ?

cooler
01-18-2006, 12:35 PM
Very interesting points.

From what Chen Jin himself told reporters after the match, he said he won the first set because of mental toughness, and he won the second set because he's young and full of energy while Hafiz ran out of gas in the 2nd.

He didn't mention anything about skills or talent. Does this imply that he lacks skills and talent? :rolleyes: I think talent is some kind of unusual ability to win the match or title, not the way to lose it. There are two elements in talent, one is unusual, the other is "to win". Anyhow, some people just forget the 2nd element, in their dictionary, talent=unusual, no matter it's a win or lose.

LOL, thanks for another support to my 'speed beat technique' principle :D :) (if u dunno, i had this long and continuing debate here (BC)about speed vs technique). Go check my pyramid :D It will be around longer than the egyptian pyramids :eek: :p

madbad
01-18-2006, 12:36 PM
Just noticed on the schedule for tomorrow that Shoji Sato is already through to the 3rd round. Did he receive a walkover from Lee Tsuen tseng ? Anyone know ?

They've already played and Sho won. Don't know score as the live scoring is so f****d up.

fast3r
01-18-2006, 12:37 PM
Just noticed on the schedule for tomorrow that Shoji Sato is already through to the 3rd round. Did he receive a walkover from Lee Tsuen tseng ? Anyone know ?

The draw said Sato beat Lee 15-12 15-5 so I'm guessing thats what happened

ye333
01-18-2006, 12:38 PM
Just noticed on the schedule for tomorrow that Shoji Sato is already through to the 3rd round. Did he receive a walkover from Lee Tsuen tseng ? Anyone know ?

According to the live score, he won 15:12, 15:5. Lee must be too excited
or something? But anyway, watched Shoji Sato in the WC, good player, very fast. So may not be that surprising.

2cents
01-18-2006, 12:39 PM
Very interesting points.

From what Chen Jin himself told reporters after the match, he said he won the first set because of mental toughness, and he won the second set because he's young and full of energy while Hafiz ran out of gas in the 2nd.

He didn't mention anything about skills or talent. Does this imply that he lacks skills and talent? :rolleyes: I think talent is some kind of unusual ability to win the match or title, not the way to lose it. There are two elements in talent, one is unusual, the other is "to win". Anyhow, some people just forget the 2nd element, in their dictionary, talent=unusual, no matter it's a win or lose.

Back to Chen Jin vs Hafiz, Chen Jin might have won in a usual way, while Hafiz might have lost in an unusual way? So you might draw the conclusion that Hafiz is more talented than Chen Jin. :D :D

ye333
01-18-2006, 12:41 PM
Well. You are using "talent" in a wider sense. I am just using it to denote
the fine touch when playing, in a pure physical sense.
Very interesting points.

From what Chen Jin himself told reporters after the match, he said he won the first set because of mental toughness, and he won the second set because he's young and full of energy while Hafiz ran out of gas in the 2nd.

He didn't mention anything about skills or talent. Does this imply that he lacks skills and talent? :rolleyes: I think talent is some kind of unusual ability to win the match or title, not the way to lose it. There are two elements in talent, one is unusual, the other is "to win". Anyhow, some people just forget the 2nd element, in their dictionary, talent=unusual, no matter it's a win or lose.

madbad
01-18-2006, 12:43 PM
Back to Chen Jin vs Hafiz, Chen Jin might have won in a usual way, while Hafiz might have lost in an unusual way? So you might draw the conclusion that Hafiz is more talented than Chen Jin. :D :D

What is usually usual with Hafiz's unusual talent is that he doesn't use it usually enough resulting in an unusual number of defeats against players of usual quality. Say that quickly 10 times :p

ye333
01-18-2006, 12:44 PM
Back to Chen Jin vs Hafiz, Chen Jin might have won in a usual way, while Hafiz might have lost in an unusual way? So you might draw the conclusion that Hafiz is more talented than Chen Jin. :D :D

I am just saying that my impression from watching their games is that, Hafiz
seems to control the birdy better, but he is unwilling to run or change the pace of the game. In contrast, Chen Jin runs so fast and therefore can
return many shots quite surprisingly. That is why Hafiz lost. Same seems to be true for his Denmark open loss to Lee Choongwei.

ye333
01-18-2006, 12:45 PM
Man you are an English guru. I admire you. :D

What is usually usual with Hafiz's unusual talent is that he doesn't use it usually enough resulting in an unusual number of defeats against players of usual quality. Say that quickly 10 times :p

cooler
01-18-2006, 12:48 PM
I am just saying that my impression from watching their games is that, Hafiz
seems to control the birdy better, but he is unwilling to run or change the pace of the game. In contrast, Chen Jin runs so fast and therefore can
return many shots quite surprisingly. That is why Hafiz lost. Same seems to be true for his Denmark open loss to Lee Choongwei.


again, u had illustrated the importance of speed vs techniques

madbad
01-18-2006, 12:49 PM
Man you are an English guru. I admire you. :D

Ha ha, all in fun :)

madbad
01-18-2006, 12:53 PM
Just noticed how easily Hirose demolished Judith (11-1, 11-2) whom I thought was doing quite well lately. Which of the kawai Japanese girls stand to make it the furthest?

2cents
01-18-2006, 12:57 PM
Ha ha, all in fun :)

wow, you are a living proof of the telented. But telent must be an unusual gift from God, right? God cannot send telent to everyone as a Xmas gift.

cooler
01-18-2006, 01:01 PM
wow, you are a living proof of the telented. But telent must be an unusual gift from God, right? God cannot send telent to everyone as a Xmas gift.
Not usually :D :)

djake
01-18-2006, 01:06 PM
Just noticed how easily Hirose demolished Judith (11-1, 11-2) whom I thought was doing quite well lately. Which of the kawai Japanese girls stand to make it the furthest?
The Japanese girls have improved so much over the last 18 months. I think they will be favourites to finish 2nd in the uber cup (ahead of south korea and holland). Hirose need to learn how to beat the 'big' players (ZN,XXF etc) and I'm sure she will soon.

belfastnole2
01-18-2006, 01:31 PM
LCW lost 2nd set 7-15 against joppien but 6-1 up in the rubber set

Darth Andrianus
01-18-2006, 01:57 PM
Stupid www.247.tv! I tried watching one of the matches live and even paid £3.00 for it and when the time comes for me to watch it, RealPlayer just gave an error message saying that 'the requested file cannot be found'. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::c rying:

fast3r
01-18-2006, 01:59 PM
Lin Dan losing 12-5 to Kasper Oedum

fast3r
01-18-2006, 01:59 PM
Lin Dan losing 12-5 to Kasper Oedum

13-5 now.

Chen jin just started

hcpoirot
01-18-2006, 02:00 PM
A little correction:

Zhang/Gao won from Korean pair Yoo/Ha 15-1 15-10. So there is no suprise at all in XD for the first day. ;)

madbad
01-18-2006, 02:05 PM
15-5 to Oedum! Wow!

fast3r
01-18-2006, 02:06 PM
13-5 now.

Chen jin just started

Kasper Oedum won 1st set 15-5, Lin has a slow start again

cooler
01-18-2006, 02:07 PM
u do sound weird. CJ has not much talent but he had beaten peter G, Kenneth J, and Lee Hyun Il and now beats the 'talented' Hafiz LOL

Come on, are u saying Hafiz has great skill and cant win while CJ has poor skill and can win is due to luck or astrology :confused:

added one more to chen jin list

fast3r
01-18-2006, 02:14 PM
Kasper Oedum won 1st set 15-5, Lin has a slow start again

Lin Dan goes 4-1 down in 2nd game

hcpoirot
01-18-2006, 02:21 PM
Can anyone tell me the result between LCW and Joppien?

Very interesting match is between Christian (denmark) a qualifier and Kuan beng Hong . 8-10 for now.

Lin Dan trailing one set and lead 7-5 in second set.

Chen Jin aready won first set 15-5

fast3r
01-18-2006, 02:22 PM
Lin Dan goes 4-1 down in 2nd game

Lin now 7-5 up...

djake
01-18-2006, 02:23 PM
Can anyone tell me the result between LCW and Joppien?

Very interesting match is between Christian (denmark) a qualifier and Kuan beng Hong . 8-10 for now.

Lin Dan railingone set and lead 7-5 in second set.

Chen Jin aready won first set 15-5
LCW won in three sets.

hcpoirot
01-18-2006, 02:23 PM
CLT VS KBH 10 all. KBH is Malaysian fourth player now. Meanwhile CLT probably rank 6-7 in Denmark.

Jin_ChenFan
01-18-2006, 02:24 PM
LCW won in three sets.

15-6, 7-15, 15-3

fast3r
01-18-2006, 02:26 PM
Lin 9-5 up

Chen Jin 4-0 down in 2nd set

hcpoirot
01-18-2006, 02:29 PM
LD rushing foward. 14-5 now.

CLT VS KBH 12:14

fast3r
01-18-2006, 02:29 PM
Lin 9-5 up

Chen Jin 4-0 down in 2nd set

Lin 14-6 up in 2nd set, it must go to a decider...

Jin_ChenFan
01-18-2006, 02:31 PM
Lin 14-6 up in 2nd set, it must go to a decider...

Lin Dan won second set.. 15-6

yannie
01-18-2006, 02:32 PM
Jia You Chen Jin!!! All the best! :D

madbad
01-18-2006, 02:36 PM
All these 3 setters Lin Dan is playing early on is going to catch up with him when he takes on the tougher players. Maybe Chen Hong knew what he was doing when he "lost" (read: rested) in the German Open final.

2cents
01-18-2006, 02:37 PM
CLT VS KBH 10 all. KBH is Malaysian fourth player now. Meanwhile CLT probably rank 6-7 in Denmark.

I think there are quite a few good players from Malaysia. For example, Lee TS, Yeoh KB, Chua James, ..., they are capable of beating top 10 players at any time. The question is their consistency.

madbad
01-18-2006, 02:39 PM
I think there are quite a few good players from Malaysia. For example, Lee TS, Yeoh KB, Chua James, ..., they are capable of beating top 10 players at any time. The question is their consistency.

Speaking of which, YKB is demolishing SSM. A surprise? Maybe not. SSM has not shown good form lately.

hcpoirot
01-18-2006, 02:41 PM
SSM is really in his worst times ever. after losing to Roman Spitko in German Open. Now look lke he will lost to Yeoh Kay Bin. He lost first set 8-15 and trailing 0-6 in second set.

So its not only PBSI had headache due to Thomas qualification, Korean coaches had the same problem with us.

Go Gade
01-18-2006, 02:43 PM
I think there are quite a few good players from Malaysia. For example, Lee TS, Yeoh KB, Chua James, ..., they are capable of beating top 10 players at any time. The question is their consistency.
Much lower... Like 15 or something

coops241180
01-18-2006, 02:45 PM
All these 3 setters Lin Dan is playing early on is going to catch up with him when he takes on the tougher players. Maybe Chen Hong knew what he was doing when he "lost" (read: rested) in the German Open final.

agree - especially when we've seen him suffer this way before when he lost to taufik after the marathon game against peter gade.. while these may not be the same they are still long games which will take their toll towards the end of the week..

lin hasn't played any of the europe tournaments has he? so he hasn't played since before xmas - could he tournament sharpness be a little off????

Coops

yannie
01-18-2006, 02:47 PM
Chen Jin won 15-5, 15-8 :p

djake
01-18-2006, 02:48 PM
agree - especially when we've seen him suffer this way before when he lost to taufik after the marathon game against peter gade.. while these may not be the same they are still long games which will take their toll towards the end of the week..

lin hasn't played any of the europe tournaments has he? so he hasn't played since before xmas - could he tournament sharpness be a little off????

Coops
Maybe everyone has got wiser with Lin Dan style of play. It is difficult to dominate in men singles like the way he did. Time for him to adapt new tricks perhaps ?

coops241180
01-18-2006, 02:49 PM
SSM is really in his worst times ever. after losing to Roman Spitko in German Open. Now look lke he will lost to Yeoh Kay Bin. He lost first set 8-15 and trailing 0-6 in second set.

So its not only PBSI had headache due to Thomas qualification, Korean coaches had the same problem with us.

lol - welcome to the BAofE's world :) no MS players in the top 20 let alone the top 10 :(

Coops

hcpoirot
01-18-2006, 02:49 PM
I think there are quite a few good players from Malaysia. For example, Lee TS, Yeoh KB, Chua James, ..., they are capable of beating top 10 players at any time. The question is their consistency.

I havent seen Lee TS, Yeoh KB and James Chua beat any Top 10 lately. Lee TS and James Chua play really well at start of their career and then stuck . For James, he had injuries. Yeoh KB, never show any challenge to Top 10 players.


The good players from Malaysia and really dangerous ones are Lee Chong Wei, Wong Choong Han, Hafiz and Hashim. Thats why I predict Malaysia beside China had a good chance to grab Thomas this year.

But Lee Wan Wah had to be in good shape and didn't had any injury.

jamesd20
01-18-2006, 02:49 PM
SSM is really in his worst times ever. after losing to Roman Spitko in German Open. Now look lke he will lost to Yeoh Kay Bin

Any one notice this decline has coincided with Li Mao leaving to join Malaysian team coaching staff?

Lin too confident to be a great player IMO, he needs to apply himself.

madbad
01-18-2006, 02:50 PM
agree - especially when we've seen him suffer this way before when he lost to taufik after the marathon game against peter gade.. while these may not be the same they are still long games which will take their toll towards the end of the week..

lin hasn't played any of the europe tournaments has he? so he hasn't played since before xmas - could he tournament sharpness be a little off????

Coops

Lin Dan lost to Chen Hong in a marathon in the semis of the German Open.

I wonder how much losing a set to the lower lights will affect his confidence. Right now, he looks likely to be ousted of all the favourites.

_muse
01-18-2006, 02:50 PM
lin dan had actually played the german open where he lost to chen hong in the semis in three sets.

Go Gade
01-18-2006, 02:52 PM
Much lower... Like 15 or something
Actually he is number 38 in denmark... but don't think that's the true picture!

Jin_ChenFan
01-18-2006, 02:56 PM
agree - especially when we've seen him suffer this way before when he lost to taufik after the marathon game against peter gade.. while these may not be the same they are still long games which will take their toll towards the end of the week..

lin hasn't played any of the europe tournaments has he? so he hasn't played since before xmas - could he tournament sharpness be a little off????

Coops He played in Germany!

coops241180
01-18-2006, 02:59 PM
He played in Germany!

oops..

so he did..i just didn't notice because he wasn't in the final.. can you tell i'm not a lin dan fan? :D:eek::D

Coops

Jin_ChenFan
01-18-2006, 03:02 PM
oops..

so he did..i just didn't notice because he wasn't in the final.. can you tell i'm not a lin dan fan? :D:eek::D

CoopsHe lost to Chen Hong in the semi final.:p

hcpoirot
01-18-2006, 03:05 PM
Hmm SSM didn't give up yet. Second set 14-15. Can he make it into rubber set?

Jin_ChenFan
01-18-2006, 03:11 PM
Hmm SSM didn't give up yet. Second set 14-15. Can he make it into rubber set?in a rubber set he Win:crying:

jamesd20
01-18-2006, 03:17 PM
in a rubber set he Win:crying:

With no disrespect to MAL supporters intended that is a typical MAL performance, dominate the game until match point, then lose. :(

Better to have loved and lost however than never loved at all in ENG case!

2cents
01-18-2006, 03:21 PM
Joachim PERSSON got 5 points in a row in a rally from 11:14 :eek: :eek:

madbad
01-18-2006, 03:21 PM
With no disrespect to MAL supporters intended that is a typical MAL performance, dominate the game until match point, then lose. :(

Better to have loved and lost however than never loved at all in ENG case!

So what's the score now. Live scoring is stuck

madbad
01-18-2006, 03:22 PM
Joachim PERSSON got 5 points in a row in a rally from 11:14 :eek: :eek:

... and he won the first set 17-15!

segis
01-18-2006, 03:22 PM
Bao Chunlai lost first game agaist Joachim Persson DEN 17-15
a little surprice but joachim has his moments :) good for him
GOOO!!:D:D

madbad
01-18-2006, 03:32 PM
Lin Dan took 81 mins to complete his first match and a further 82 mins in his second. We'll see how he responds tomorrow.

tutu_h
01-18-2006, 03:32 PM
OMG!:eek: Bao is having a hard time against Persson

Bao is 7-4 behind

cooler
01-18-2006, 03:32 PM
who won the rubber set between LD and kasper :confused:

chewybar1986
01-18-2006, 03:34 PM
Bao has givin up!!!!!! still injured it seems



OMG!:eek: Bao is having a hard time against Persson

Bao is 7-4 behind

segis
01-18-2006, 03:35 PM
10-4 to Persson :eek::D

Wai Shing
01-18-2006, 03:39 PM
Lin Dan vs Kasper. 5-15 15-6 15-4

coops241180
01-18-2006, 03:40 PM
Bao has givin up!!!!!! still injured it seems

think ur right - the live score just vanished and went to the mens doubles game next..

what it bao's injury??

Coops

2cents
01-18-2006, 03:41 PM
Bao has givin up!!!!!! still injured it seems

he might need to quit

madbad
01-18-2006, 03:41 PM
who won the rubber set between LD and kasper :confused:

LD 15-4 but he took a loooooong 82 mins to finish Oedum off

madbad
01-18-2006, 03:46 PM
he might need to quit

Injured or not, with him out the lower half of the draw opens up nicely for Gade. Bye bye Bao Bao. Who is this Joachim Pers(s)on anyway (pun intended)? Where is he ranked in Denmark?

chewybar1986
01-18-2006, 03:46 PM
no!! I mean he has called it a day and left the court because hes still injured!!!!

he might need to quit

segis
01-18-2006, 03:48 PM
Bao gave up at 10-5 to Persson
Hope Bao will comeback soon..


he got such a cool name :D:D:D

segis
01-18-2006, 03:50 PM
Madbad the only thing i know about him is that he won FIC2005 (finnish international cup)
and i have seen that final and he can play quite good but i dont think he will go far, but we'll see :p

Injured or not, with him out the lower half of the draw opens up nicely for Gade. Bye bye Bao Bao. Who is this Joachim Pers(s)on anyway (pun intended)? Where is he ranked in Denmark?

coops241180
01-18-2006, 03:53 PM
yeah.. quite an open bottom half.. altho i would say reaslistically it's either Chen Jin (based on current form) or Peter Gade's bottom half - Chen Jin has taken out Hafiz for Gade (since they've always had long battles)
With the rest of the chinese continigent in the top half (well.. Hong and Dan) and the likes of WCH, LCW and KJ in the top half the bottom half could very well have a comparitively easy ride bar one match..

It could all be falling into place for PG..

on a side note..

Archer is out of the Mixed doubled - Hurrah (personally can't stand the guy.. i mean- would you like a guy who gave you a mouthful because of a line call??? )

Coops

felicialim
01-18-2006, 04:22 PM
With no disrespect to MAL supporters intended that is a typical MAL performance, dominate the game until match point, then lose. :(

Better to have loved and lost however than never loved at all in ENG case!

Yalor, it's alwiz our problem,especially with the doubles,losing the match after leading.

ponda
01-18-2006, 04:31 PM
I agree agree with the sentiments about CJ - however can't help but feel that the lower half of the draw is opening up for HIM. He could have a smooth ride to the final with bags of energy left over. There could be some tired guys in the top half!

madbad
01-18-2006, 04:38 PM
yeah.. quite an open bottom half.. altho i would say reaslistically it's either Chen Jin (based on current form) or Peter Gade's bottom half - Chen Jin has taken out Hafiz for Gade (since they've always had long battles)
With the rest of the chinese continigent in the top half (well.. Hong and Dan) and the likes of WCH, LCW and KJ in the top half the bottom half could very well have a comparitively easy ride bar one match..

It could all be falling into place for PG..

on a side note..

Archer is out of the Mixed doubled - Hurrah (personally can't stand the guy.. i mean- would you like a guy who gave you a mouthful because of a line call??? )

Coops

In a sense, it's working out better and better for Gade. The top half is LOADED. Those guys are going to beat each other up and the effort is going to wear them down physically and mentally. By the time they get to Gade (or whoever from the bottom half), they could be suitable softened.

What's the deal with Archer? When did this happen? care to detail?

kwun
01-18-2006, 04:39 PM
I agree agree with the sentiments about CJ - however can't help but feel that the lower half of the draw is opening up for HIM. He could have a smooth ride to the final with bags of energy left over. There could be some tired guys in the top half!

every once in a while, somebody do get lucky. :)

but don't forget about Peter Gade. he is not going to be an easy opponent for ChenJ.

in the worse case, this will be a valuable opportunity for ChenJ to gain more experience, he is still very young afterall. from the look of it, the MS world will be lead by him and/or Lee Chong Wei after the current batch of older players retire.

felicialim
01-18-2006, 05:11 PM
Hmm SSM didn't give up yet. Second set 14-15. Can he make it into rubber set?

YKB won the match with 15-8,17-16

Loh
01-18-2006, 06:31 PM
u do sound weird. CJ has not much talent but he had beaten peter G, Kenneth J and now beats the 'talented' Hafiz LOL

Come on, are u saying Hafiz has great skill and cant win while CJ has poor skill and can win is due to luck or astrology :confused:

In addition he has recently beaten Lee Hyun Ill and Chen Hong. Maybe he must beat both Lin Dan and Taufik to be considered talented. :D

virusvoodoo
01-18-2006, 07:08 PM
In addition he has recently beaten Lee Hyun Ill and Chen Hong. Maybe he must beat both Lin Dan and Taufik to be considered talented. :D

After watching Chen Jin's last few videos, I am afraid that he is playing like he's in the top 5 rank. His style is somewhat of Chen Hong's smooth & consistent strokes and Lin Dan's speed combined and he seems to even have a stronger mental mind than Lin Dan. I'm sure by the end of this year, Chen Jin will be in the top-5 rank and may even challenge Lin Dan for top spot.

That's why I think Chen Jin may trouble Peter Gade than even Hafiz or Boonsak could. I hope everything will go well for Peter Gade as he is one of Europe few hopes for the Men's Singles Title.

Loh
01-18-2006, 07:11 PM
As magical_phoenix has said, we're soulmates! We're really close to each other!
No problem about mixing me up with Yanni, a lot of people ask me if I'm a big fan of Yanni, but yannie (with an E) is just an often used nickname of mine.
Well, I turn 18 this year (young, yes) and I'm in my last ½ year of high school. I've been in Denmark since summer 1995, so it's a long time already! Grown up in Fuzhou, Fujian. Awww I miss this city so much! (Btw if anyone is interested the Chinese players go to Fuzhou to train for 40 - 50 days in February)
My Danish is fluent, same with English and Chinese. Although Bao sometimes laugh at my Chinese :o I also speak some German and French...
Future plans? Study at a Danish Uni... maybe University of Copenhagen and then go back to China to work :D
And btw, I don't really play badminton hehe, just a great fan of the sport!

So you've been in Denmark for 10 years already! That's a very long time indeed and you went there when you were just 8 years' old? Did you stay in a boarding school then? And if you're going to be trained as a doctor, it may take you another 10 years! Will you not lose touch with your own country by staying away for so long. No wonder every time the Chinese players play in the Danish Open you will welcome them with open arms. :D

Have you ever considered being trained for the diplomatic corps? Your knowledge of foreign languages and your extensive overseas experience, particularly in Denmark, will put you in very good stead, I think. This, coupled with your pleasant personality and a desire to help others may just be the right recipe for doing very well in foreign relations and the foreign service. Of course not forgetting your 'diplomatic gestures' as displayed so many times in this Forum. ;)

The Phoenix and the Dragon, though opposite in gender and nature, are a very close bond and their pictures are often depicted on happy occasions like a Chinese marriage. I doubt you have met MP personally, yet you two seem to enjoy a common telepathy to the extent that both of you can claim yourselves as 'soulmates'. That this BC Forum is the matchmaker is indeed a very nice thought. :D

Keep up with your posts, on CJ particularly, and I hope you will continue to enjoy your Danish delights! :)

yannie
01-19-2006, 10:03 AM
Hey Loh, I will reply to you as pm, as I'm afraid that people are tired of off-top subjects hehe :o