Result of Asian qualifying phase

[cxytdn]

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[nugroho]

malaysia uber team lost to china taipe 3-2 :eek: WMC lost to Cheng SC in rubber set.

indonesia won easily over iran win safe play.

singapore beats pakistan 5-0

thailand lost to india 3-2

surprises in 1st day ... what a game:p
i think the new sytem work really well... one of the game was over in 7 minutes:eek: what a short program :p , surely wont be any "come back" and drama on this new system

[chemile]

Any news Indonesia vs Korea? Hope Indonesia can win! My prediction Indonesia will win 3-2 or lost 2-3. Indonesia can get WS2, WS3, WD2. If one of them lose, Indonesia will lost, but probably Jo/Polli can win.

[badMania]

malaysia uber team lost to china taipe 3-2 :eek: WMC lost to Cheng SC in rubber set.

indonesia won easily over iran win safe play.

singapore beats pakistan 5-0

thailand lost to india 3-2

surprises in 1st day ... what a game:p
i think the new sytem work really well... one of the game was over in 7 minutes:eek: what a short program :p , surely wont be any "come back" and drama on this new system

Hmmm...I expected Malaysia to win 3-2, but, the splitting of the doubles really does not pay dividends to the Malaysian. They split Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui and paired Pei Tty with Sock Ai. Unfortunately, this pair lost out to the Chinese Taipei no 1 pair of Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing.

Obviously, this result is advantageous to Team Indonesia. I predict that Indonesia will beat Malaysia 3-2 and will fight for the second spot with Chinese Taipei.

[badMania]

Thailand was unlucky to be beaten by India. Aparna Popat beat Salakjit Ponsana in 3 close games (esp the last 2, 21-19, 21-18). The India's new sensation, Saina Nehwal (not Sania Mirza though...hehe) did her country proud by beating Soratja Chansrisukot 21-17, 22-20. Thailand got 2 points from their second singles and first doubles (Meemek Monthila and Saralee/Sathinee). Unfortunately, their second doubles (which is also a strange pairing of Kulchala/Sutjitra) lost to the Indian's unheralded second doubles in 3 sets (21-13, 16-21, 15-21).

Perhaps this time, India could qualify in front of their home crowd....wow....

[chemile]

Perhaps this time, India could qualify in front of their home crowd....wow....

dont think so. Still have Singapore and Hongkong. If India can beat Hong KOng? :) For the first time I think India will go to final.. Hmmmm hope so :)

[nugroho]

Thailand was unlucky to be beaten by India. Aparna Popat beat Salakjit Ponsana in 3 close games (esp the last 2, 21-19, 21-18). The India's new sensation, Saina Nehwal (not Sania Mirza though...hehe) did her country proud by beating Soratja Chansrisukot 21-17, 22-20. Thailand got 2 points from their second singles and first doubles (Meemek Monthila and Saralee/Sathinee). Unfortunately, their second doubles (which is also a strange pairing of Kulchala/Sutjitra) lost to the Indian's unheralded second doubles in 3 sets (21-13, 16-21, 15-21).

Perhaps this time, India could qualify in front of their home crowd....wow....
but bad result from taufik. he won in close match in rubber set:eek:
un-acceptable!!!

[chemile]

Any news Indonesia vs Korea? Not patient to know the result!

[nugroho]

Any news Indonesia vs Korea? Not patient to know the result!
not yet.. blom ada:P

[badMania]

According to www.asianbadminton.org (http://www.asianbadminton.org) :
UBER CUP
Korea bt Indonesia 5-0 :mad:
Chinese Taipei bt Iran 5-0
Hong Kong bt Singapore 3-0

[badMania]

Korea bt Indonesia 5-0
Seo Yoon Hee bt Fransisca Ratnasari 21-13, 17-21, 21-17 (65 Mins)
Hwang Hye Youn bt Maria Kristin Yulianti 23-21, 21-16 (42 Mins)
Lee Yun Hwa bt Adrianti Firdasari 21-15, 21-14 (28 Mins)

Lee Hyo Jung/Hwang Yu Mi bt Jo Novita/Greysia Polii 21-9, 21-13 (30 Mins)
Ra Kyung Min/Ha Jeung Eun bt Lita Nurlita/Lilyana Natsir 21-19, 21-21 (??) (32 Mins)

Except for the third singles and first double, it's a pretty close fight.

Lets hope the Indo girls can beat Malaysia and Chinese Taipei.

[badMania]

Hong Kong bt Singapore 3-0

A small correction...HKG beat SIN 3-2. Li Li and Xing Aiying lost to Wang Chen and Yip Pui Yin. Jiang Yanmei played in 2 matches and won both (third singles and first doubles with Li Yujia). However, Wang Chen/Koon Wai Chee Louisa beat SG's second doubles pairing of Xing Aiying/Shinta Mulya Sari.

[hcpoirot]

A small correction...HKG beat SIN 3-2. Li Li and Xing Aiying lost to Wang Chen and Yip Pui Yin. Jiang Yanmei played in 2 matches and won both (third singles and first doubles with Li Yujia). However, Wang Chen/Koon Wai Chee Louisa beat SG's second doubles pairing of Xing Aiying/Shinta Mulya Sari.

Like I predict before that Wang Chen produce 2 points for HK from first single and second doubles.

And for Indonesia, Firdasari lost easily to Lee YW from Korea. Again, Firdasari show a mental weakness. After Indonesia lost 0-4 from Korea, Firdasari should play nothing to lose to secure a point from Korea cause it will probably be important when used to determined who will be the runner up of this group.

And again PBSI didn't used any strategy at all. For second doubles, Lita Nurlita/Lilyana Natsir lost real close to Korea doubles pair .

Maybe if PBSI pair Jo Novita/Lita Nurlita back they can won the second doubles. Cause with Jo/Gresiia the first doubles already lost easily to Koreans, so it will be not much worse if they pair Lilyana/Gresiaa as first double.

[badMania]

And again PBSI didn't used any strategy at all. For second doubles, Lita Nurlita/Lilyana Natsir lost real close to Korea doubles pair .

Maybe if PBSI pair Jo Novita/Lita Nurlita back they can won the second doubles. Cause with Jo/Gresiia the first doubles already lost easily to Koreans, so it will be not much worse if they pair Lilyana/Gresiaa as first double.

The lineup vs Korea is as what I predicted and its the strongest lineup that Indonesia have at the moment.

I don't think Jo Novita/Lita Nurlita is as strong as Jo/Greysia. In fact, that's the reason why they break up the old pairing and try something new. I am quite pleased with Jo/Greysia's performance so far. They have done pretty well to rise up to WR 18 with just 7-8 tournaments under their belt. With more playing hrs, they will be as good as any pairs except the top 3 pairs.

[hcyong]

A small correction...HKG beat SIN 3-2. Li Li and Xing Aiying lost to Wang Chen and Yip Pui Yin. Jiang Yanmei played in 2 matches and won both (third singles and first doubles with Li Yujia). However, Wang Chen/Koon Wai Chee Louisa beat SG's second doubles pairing of Xing Aiying/Shinta Mulya Sari.

Singapore's lineup looks pretty strong. I guess it all goes down to the second singles. This moves Yippy further up the pecking order, IMO.

[chemile]

Prediction Indonesia - Malaysia 4-1 or 3-2

Fransisca - Wong Mei Chow 50-50, If Firda could beat WMC, means Fransisca also may win!
Maria Kristin - Julia Wong 55-45, hope Maria can handled 21 poin scoring system. Yesterday, Maria played tight with Korea.
Firda - whoever 60-40, Firda must win or Indonesia will lose
Gresyia/Jo - Wong/Chin 45-55, Wong/Chin more stabil than Polii/Jo
Lita/Lilyana - whoever 60 -40

Gals, let's facing Chinese Taipei and beat them!!

[badMania]

Indonesia has decided to field Jo Novita/Lita Nurlita in the first doubles and Gresyia Polii/Lilyana Natsir in the second doubles. Hmmm....a risky tactic ?

[eddypaembonan]

Indonesia vs Malaysia Line Up :
Fransisca Ratnasari - Wong Mew Chow : 45 - 55 (Critical Point for MAS)
Jo / Lita - Wong / Chin : 40 - 60
Maria Kristin - Noorzahlisa : 55 - 45 (Critical Point for INA)
Greysia / Lyliana - Ooi Sock / Fong : 50 - 50 ( 2-2 INA Will Win)
Firda - Anita Raj : 60 - 40


Prediction Indonesia - Malaysia 4-1 or 3-2

Fransisca - Wong Mei Chow 50-50, If Firda could beat WMC, means Fransisca also may win!
Maria Kristin - Julia Wong 55-45, hope Maria can handled 21 poin scoring system. Yesterday, Maria played tight with Korea.
Firda - whoever 60-40, Firda must win or Indonesia will lose
Gresyia/Jo - Wong/Chin 45-55, Wong/Chin more stabil than Polii/Jo
Lita/Lilyana - whoever 60 -40

Gals, let's facing Chinese Taipei and beat them!!

[badMania]

Some results:
Korea beat Chinese Taipei 3-2....they have practically qualified.

Seo Yoon Hee lost to Cheng Shao-Chieh 21-15, 21-23, 15-21 (56 mins)
-- a close shave for Cheng. These 2 players should be equally matched, with only 2 places separating them in the WR table.

Hwang Hye Youn bt Chiu Yi-Ju 21-11, 21-13 (35 mins)
-- easy win for the Korean.

Lee Yun Hwa lost to Pai Min-Jie 21-11, 18-21, 13-21 :eek: :eek: (50 mins)
-- a surprising and morale boosting result for Chinese Taipei...especially in light of tomorrow's crucial match against Team Indonesia. Firda lost tamely yesterday to Lee Yun Hwa and lets hope she can recover and be in her best form tomorrow.

Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won bt Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing 18-21, 21-18, 21-13 (50 mins)
-- as expected, a tough and close fight in the first 2 sets....but the Korean is still superior. It's intriguing to see which pair Team Indonesia will put up tomorrow. I still fancy Jo Novita/Gresya Polii.

Ra Kyung Min/Hwang Yu Mi bt Chou Chia-Chi/Ku Pei-Ting 21-16, 21-9 (26 mins)
-- again, easy victory for the experienced Ra Kyung Min and her junior. Indonesia must exploit this weak link and win this tie tomorrow.

[badMania]

Hong Kong beat India 3-2....India has proven to be the surprise team in this year's qualifying campaign. They will qualify if they beat Singapore tomorrow.

Wang Chen bt Aparna Popat 21-10, 21-5 (22 mins)
-- easy victory for Wang

Yip Pui Yin bt Trupti Murgunde 21-18, 21-15 (31 mins)
-- slightly tighter score-line, but no problem for the HK youngster

Wong Sin Yee lost to Saina Nehwal 6-21, 4-21 (20 mins)
-- another easy victory for the Indian rising star

Louis Koon Wai Chee/Li Wing Mui lost to Jwala P. Gutta/Shrutis Kurian 24-22, 19-21, 9-21 (47 mins)
-- another surprising victory for the Indian doubles pair. Closely fought in the first 2 sets and the HK pair must have lost their stamina in the third

Yip Pui Yin/Wang Chen bt Br Meenakshi/Aparna Balan 21-10, 21-13 (19 mins)
-- no problem for Yip/Wang yet again

[peace]

Let see ho the INdonesian girls work...hope they can be better today. I don't understand why they split Jo/Greysia...hmm i hope this is not a wrong strategy. This is a very crucial match for both of the teams.

So..let see....

[hcpoirot]

Let see ho the INdonesian girls work...hope they can be better today. I don't understand why they split Jo/Greysia...hmm i hope this is not a wrong strategy. This is a very crucial match for both of the teams.

So..let see....

Its a right decision to make. Jo/Gresia had only 50:50 when they met the Malaysian pair.

Jo/Lita Nurlita once was in the Top 10 of Women Doubles, the reason they were split and Jo pair with Gresia were because this pair always lost to Chinese and Korean pair.

But I do think they had a slight chance 51:49 to win against the Malay.

Lets hope the girls mental is tough enough after a 0-5 lost from Korea.

[mirrura]

Msia bt Ina 3/2

Wong Mew Choo bt Ratnasari Fransisca 21-11, 21-6
Norshaliza Baharum bt Maria Kristin Yulianti 21-14,10-21,21-19
Anita Kaur lost to Adriyanti Firdasari 11-21,20-22
Wong PT - Chin EH bt Jo Novita - Lita Nurlita 21-17,21-17
Ooi SI - Fong CY lost to Polii - Lilyana Natsir 15-21,11-21

[qwertyu]

Bravo Malaysia. Proved all the predictions wrong. Sweet victory.

[badMania]

Msia bt Ina 3/2

Wong Mew Choo bt Ratnasari Fransisca 21-11, 21-6
Norshaliza Baharum bt Maria Kristin Yulianti 21-14,10-21,21-19
Anita Kaur lost to Adriyanti Firdasari 11-21,20-22
Wong PT - Chin EH bt Jo Novita - Lita Nurlita 21-17,21-17
Ooi SI - Fong CY lost to Polii - Lilyana Natsir 15-21,11-21

SIGH...the plan backfired. Why on earth they split the best doubles pair when the chance of winning is 50-50.

Now...Chinese Taipei has more than 50% chance of qualifying.

[mirrura]

Singapore bt Thailand 3/2

Li Li bt Salakjit Ponsana 21-16,14-21,12-21
Xing Aiying bt Meemek 21-18,21-14
Jiang Yanmei bt Chansrisukot 21-18,21-14
LiYujia - Shinta Mulya Sari lost to Saralee - Sathinee 20-22,20-22
Jian Yanmei - Fan Frances Liu lost to Kulchala - Duang Anong 22-24, 17-21

[melinda]

Indons talk too much LOL

[ronk]

It looks like Taiwan and South Korea are in unless Malaysia can beat South Korea. In that event, the scores between matches will count. South Korea is virtually in and Taiwan is in good shape. Indonesia is probably out and Iran never had a chance.

I noticed that in the Malaysia-Nepal tie, Lee Chong Wei was playing second doubles with Tan Chong Fook. I guess that having won the tie, Malaysia was able to experiment with the doubles.

[peace]

Well.....in this case, I think we could say Goodbye for Indonesian Uber Team. Though They can beat Taiwan tomorrow, I am still not sure they will qualify...maybe this is too early...but this seems what would happen tomorrow.

But the Indonesian girls do not need to be blamed. In this case, this is completely PBSI mistake. Look...they never send any woman players to many tournaments and only some challenger's. They are always talking money, money and money. No money for sending the players which could not reach semifinal....well...of course,. if the players are never played in such a big event, they will never get any experience..and PBSI forgot that in fact....to be a very good player....one needs time...it could not even 1 year. So...I think, this is the result of the system that PBSI does recently....

No regeneration is the other mistake of PBSI.

So...in my opinion, PBSI has to change their own policy, and also the committee...This time, the PBSI General Sutiyoso should be changed...definitely they are failed !!!!!

[badMania]

Norshaliza Baharum bt Maria Kristin Yulianti 21-14,10-21,21-19


A heart-breaking loss for Team Indonesia.

The second singles proved to be the decisive one....and how close it was in the deciding set :mad: Maria Kristin was expected to defeat the supposedly inferior opponent. I suppose the defeat in first singles and first doubles were kinda factored in when they decide on team formation. The key was to take the second and third singles + second doubles. Too bad....

As things stand, Chinese Taipei will qualify (unless they lost badly to Indonesia tomorrow and Malaysia beat Korea).

I wonder which team will qualify if Korea beat Malaysia 4-1 and Indonesia beat Chinese Taipei 4-1. In that case, all three teams won 2 matches and lost 2 matches. In addition, they will have similar number of ties won vs lost (11-9). If I am not wrong, then Malaysia will qualify. If Malaysia got thrashed 5-0, then Indonesia will qualify. Correct me if I am wrong.

[mirrura]

IF korea were to beat malaysia tomorrow, Korea will become the champion

IF Indonesia were to beat Taiwan tomorrow, then Taiwan, Indonesia and Malaysia will each have 2 points.

My confusion is how they're going to pick one of these to qualify to the finals??

[yingcheng]

cheers for Wang Chen & Yip PY!! but quite disappointed by Koon Wai Chee/Li Wing Mui..sigh!
go go go HK!!

btw, really cant believe KOR 5-0 INA...wot happened?

[zia.ufrida]

I notice Noraliza baharum. I think She is next badminton star. Maria kristin is the single player that have the best technic Indinesia have (compare to firda or nana). But, She bt her. Prove that malaysia will replace Indonesia as a strong woman team in south east Asia.

congratulation malaysia... I hope malaysia will qualify for final. There is no hope for indonesian uber team.



A heart-breaking loss for Team Indonesia.

The second singles proved to be the decisive one....and how close it was in the deciding set :mad: Maria Kristin was expected to defeat the supposedly inferior opponent. I suppose the defeat in first singles and first doubles were kinda factored in when they decide on team formation. The key was to take the second and third singles + second doubles. Too bad....

As things stand, Chinese Taipei will qualify (unless they lost badly to Indonesia tomorrow and Malaysia beat Korea).

I wonder which team will qualify if Korea beat Malaysia 4-1 and Indonesia beat Chinese Taipei 4-1. In that case, all three teams won 2 matches and lost 2 matches. In addition, they will have similar number of ties won vs lost (11-9). If I am not wrong, then Malaysia will qualify. If Malaysia got thrashed 5-0, then Indonesia will qualify. Correct me if I am wrong.

[Sandy]

A heart-breaking loss for Team Indonesia.

The second singles proved to be the decisive one....and how close it was in the deciding set :mad: Maria Kristin was expected to defeat the supposedly inferior opponent. I suppose the defeat in first singles and first doubles were kinda factored in when they decide on team formation. The key was to take the second and third singles + second doubles. Too bad....



Don't under estimate to some of Malaysia Junior Girl's Single players, Norshaliza Baharum, Julia Wong and especially Lidya Cheah.

Norshaliza Baharum lost in closed 3 set match from Lu Lan (CHN) in Swiss Open this year. These 3 girls who played in Asian Junior Championships in Jakarta, they beat Korea in team.
And don't forget Lidya Cheah (born in 1990) beat Pia Zebadiah stright set in Satellite tournament.

Not surprised Maria Kristin lost in here. PBSI has given unfair decision to her, Maria got important duty without play in any tournament while Firda & Nana played in Germany & Switzerland.

[cxytdn]

:) :rolleyes: :cool: :p ;) :crying: :D :confused: :o :eek: :( :mad:

KOR and HKG will be sure for SF.

[badMania]

An Update:

Both Korea and HKG have qualified for Uber Cup Finals after beating Iran and Pakistan 5-0.



Malaysia have also qualified for the Thomas Cup Finals after beating Iran 5-0.



The afternoon and evening matches will determine which other country qualify for the Finals in May.

[badMania]

Lineup of Indonesia vs Chinese Taipei. Both teams have altered their lineup slightly.

First Single: Fransisca Ratnasari vs Cheng Shao-Chieh
-- first pt to Chinese Taipei

First Double: Jo Novita/Gresya Polii vs Chiu Yi-Ju/Cheng Wen-Hsing
-- is Chien Yu-Chin injured or what....advantage to Jo/Gresya.

Second Single: Adrianti Firdasari vs Huang Chia-Hsin
-- Maria Kristin is dropped after losing against both Korea and Malaysia. Firda has a slight advantage here.

Second Double: Lita Nurlita/Lilyana Natsir vs Chou Chia-Chi/Cheng Shaoh-Chieh
-- Cheng playing her second match.....still advantage to Team Indonesia with the presence of Butet.

Third Single: Wiwis Meilyana vs Chiu Yi-Ju
-- if scores are tied at 2-2, can Chiu be Chinese Taipei's trump-card? She is more experienced and holds an advantage here.

If Indonesia is to have any chance of qualifying, they have to win 4-1 or better...so...the key is to win every tie (except the first one). On paper, they should win 3....but that isn't gonna be enough.....

[Loh]

An Update:

Both Korea and HKG have qualified for Uber Cup Finals after beating Iran and Pakistan 5-0.

Malaysia have also qualified for the Thomas Cup Finals after beating Iran 5-0.

The afternoon and evening matches will determine which other country qualify for the Finals in May.

I certainly hope Singapore can qualify by beating India to avenge the men's defeat in the TC! :D

[x50926x]

I certainly hope Singapore can qualify by beating India to avenge the men's defeat in the TC! :D

The Singapore girls should be able to do so! :)

[F-Man]

Lineup of Indonesia vs Chinese Taipei. Both teams have altered their lineup slightly.

First Single: Fransisca Ratnasari vs Cheng Shao-Chieh
-- first pt to Chinese Taipei

First Double: Jo Novita/Gresya Polii vs Chiu Yi-Ju/Cheng Wen-Hsing
-- is Chien Yu-Chin injured or what....advantage to Jo/Gresya.

Second Single: Adrianti Firdasari vs Huang Chia-Hsin
-- Maria Kristin is dropped after losing against both Korea and Malaysia. Firda has a slight advantage here.

Second Double: Lita Nurlita/Lilyana Natsir vs Chou Chia-Chi/Cheng Shaoh-Chieh
-- Cheng playing her second match.....still advantage to Team Indonesia with the presence of Butet.

Third Single: Wiwis Meilyana vs Chiu Yi-Ju
-- if scores are tied at 2-2, can Chiu be Chinese Taipei's trump-card? She is more experienced and holds an advantage here.

If Indonesia is to have any chance of qualifying, they have to win 4-1 or better...so...the key is to win every tie (except the first one). On paper, they should win 3....but that isn't gonna be enough.....

CORRECTION!

Chien Yu-Chin is going to play 3rd singles and 1st doubles! I know this for sure from a reliabel source. There is a mistake on the team sheet. Not only is she NOT injured but according to Fung Permadi, the Chinese Taipei coach, she is in great form!

[kemana]

still no live scoring ??
the game between Indonesia and Thailand for TC should be playing now , right?

[badMania]

Indonesia beat Chinese Taipei 3-1 (with one more tie still not known)
First Singles: Fransisca Ratnasari bt Cheng Shao-Chieh 16-21, 21-17, 21-16
-- great start by Nana...quite unexpected frankly speaking

Second Singles: Adrianti Firdasari bt Huang Chia-Hsin 21-1, 21-14
-- easy victory for Firda...good work gal!

Third Singles: Wiwis Meilyanna lost to Chien Yu-Chin 1-21, 14-21
-- kinda expected...Chien has proven to be a good singles player

Second Doubles: Lita Nurlita/Lilyana Natsir bt Chou Chia-Chi/Cheng Shao-Chieh 21-17, 21-17
-- the victory seals the win for Team Indonesia....Cheng must be exhausted after playing a rubber game earlier

First Doubles: Jo Novita/Gresya Polii vs Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing
-- result still not out....but the Indonesian pair has to win to stand a chance of qualifying.

Now, Chinese Taipei's record is Win 2 Lost 2, 11-8 (Ties Won-Ties Lost)
Indonesia's record is Win 2 Lost 2, 10-9 (Ties Won-Ties Lost)
Malaysia's record is Win 2 Lost 1, 10-5 (Ties Won-Ties Lost)

If the Indonesian pair wins, then Chinese Taipei will definitely not qualify because they lost the match to Indonesia, with similar number of ties won vs lost. Indonesia will only qualify if they win the doubles tie and hope for Malaysia to lose 5-0. Any other result will not ensure qualification.

If the Indonesian pair loses, Chinese Taipei still has a chance of qualifying, provided Malaysia got beaten 4-1 or 5-0 by Korea.

The interesting scenario will be when all teams are tied at 11-9 for number of ties won vs lost. That is, Indonesia won 4-1, and Malaysia got beaten 4-1. I think Malaysia can still qualify....

Right now, the pendulum has swung towards Malaysia. What a roller-coaster it has been....and will still be for the next few hrs.

I am still praying for a miracle.....that is for Malaysia to lose 5-0 and Indonesia to qualify!

[kemana]

Indonesia beat Chinese Taipei 3-1 (with one more tie still not known)
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dose that mean that the game between Indonesia and Chinese Taipei is still not over yet ? any news about the Indonesia Vs Thailand game? has it begun?is it over?
thank you !

[badMania]

]
dose that mean that the game between Indonesia and Chinese Taipei is still not over yet ? any news about the Indonesia Vs Thailand game? has it begun?is it over?
thank you !

The result of the last tie is still not yet known. No news yet abt the Thomas Cup evening matches. I think Indonesia will breeze through 3-2 or better (assuming Taufik is still in honeymoon mood and Luluk/Alven got beaten by Sudket/Patapol). Sony, Simon and Markis/Hendra should have no problems beating their opponents.

[kemana]

The result of the last tie is still not yet known. No news yet abt the Thomas Cup evening matches. I think Indonesia will breeze through 3-2 or better (assuming Taufik is still in honeymoon mood and Luluk/Alven got beaten by Sudket/Patapol). Sony, Simon and Markis/Hendra should have no problems beating their opponents.
thank you , i was thinking about that too-- 'assuming Taufik is still in honeymoon mood ',haha

[badMania]

Indonesia bt Chinese Taipei 3-2. Jo Novita/Gresya Polii lost to Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing

So, Indonesia will not qualify :crying: :crying: :crying:

Chinese Taipei will qualify if Malaysia loses to Korea.

[kemana]

Indonesia bt Chinese Taipei 3-2. Jo Novita/Gresya Polii lost to Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing

So, Indonesia will not qualify :crying: :crying: :crying:

Chinese Taipei will qualify if Malaysia loses to Korea.]
cft, and , where did you get the result ?

[badMania]

]
cft, and , where did you get the result ?

A Taiwanese news source.

[kemana]

A Taiwanese news source.
oh....so I guess they won't have Indo Vs Thai TC score....:(

[wl2172]

Any news on Mal vs Kor? Is that played today?

[tremdae]

Thomas & Uber Cups Asian Preliminaries 2006
17/02/2006
SIN Bt IND 5-0
Li Li bt Aparna Popat 16-21, 21-13, 21-16
Xing Aiying bt Saina Nehwal 21-15, 19-21, 21-17
Jiang Yanmei bt Meenashi 24-22, 21-7
Aiying/Shinta bt Nehwal/Balan 21-14, 21-15
Yanmei/Yujia bt Gutta/Kurian 21-19, 21-15

[kemana]

Thomas & Uber Cups Asian Preliminaries 2006
17/02/2006
SIN Bt IND 5-0
Li Li bt Aparna Popat 16-21, 21-13, 21-16
Xing Aiying bt Saina Nehwal 21-15, 19-21, 21-17
Jiang Yanmei bt Meenashi 24-22, 21-7
Aiying/Shinta bt Nehwal/Balan 21-14, 21-15
Yanmei/Yujia bt Gutta/Kurian 21-19, 21-15
thanks for the info, the official site is not reliable...
we have to collect info from different country's media

[tremdae]

thanks for the info, the official site is not reliable...
we have to collect info from different country's media

Ya, I do hope others would help in sourcing results. Anyway, that Group's qualifier would be Hong Kong and Singapore.

[ronk]

Malaysia is in the Thomas Cup finals beating Pakistan, Nepal, and Iran 5-0, 5-0, and 5-0. Somehow that draw seemed too easy.

Now with Indonesia beating Taiwan 3-2, the Uber cup qualifying is more interesting.

[kemana]

Ya, I do hope others would help in sourcing results. Anyway, that Group's qualifier would be Hong Kong and Singapore.
oh,it's getting really late, have to go to sleep
hope next morning there is update on that site:)

[badMania]

India has qualified for the Thomas Cup Finals after beating Hong Kong 3-2. This will surely delight the home crowd.

First Singles: Chetan Anand bt Ng Wei 26-24, 21-19 (40 Mins)
-- wow...Chetan won in 2 hard-fought sets!

Second Singles: Agus Hariyanto bt Arvind Bhat 21-19, 21-16 (37 Mins)
-- a pretty close win by the ex-Indonesian veteran

Third Singles : Anup Sridhar bt Yohan Wiratama Hadikusumo 17-21, 21-18, 21-12 (61 Mins)
-- another shock result!

First Doubles: Rupesh Kumar/Thomas Sanave bt Albertus Susanto Njoto/Liu Kwok Wa 11-21, 21-18, 21-10 (43 Mins)
-- Indians have really been the star of the tournament

Second Doubles: Johan Wiratama Hadikusumo/Agus Hariyanto bt V. Diju/Jaseel P. Ismail 21-15, 14-21, 21-17 (33 Mins)

[peace]

As predicted before, Goodbye for the Indonesian Uber team...for the players..this is not your mistake..the biggest fault is on the PBSI side....

This is absolutely a tragedy for Indonesia, I guess.....

Now, it depends on PBSI itself, if they do not change the policy on the ladies team, like sending them to some big tournaments, etc....I think the result will be the same, though for UC 2008 Indonesia will go automatically as host....

A lot of mistakes have been made by PBSI..why didn't they send any ladies players to the WC2005 for example, though they are qualified.....Indonesia have to learn from Malaysia...they are improving a lot now....and Indonesia is just getting worst and worst.....just because of the silly mistake....

How PBSI can get good result if the players are never sent to good tournaments, since the points would be too small form a low quality tournament,and the rank will still be low...so everytime when they participate in big tournament such as AE 2006..they have to face a tough opponent in the early rounds...

So....PBSI....will you change?? Depends on you !!!

[pauline]

ermm,may i ask, when will Mas vs Korea Uber team start?

[badMania]

Indonesia bt Thailand and qualifies for the Thomas Cup Finals....but some tense moments. As expected, Taufik lost....(he can claim that he's not suited to the new system...bla bla bla); Sony also lost...which again underlies his mental weakness.

First Singles: Boonsak Ponsana bt Taufik Hidayat 22-20, 21-19 (42 Mins)

Second Singles: Poompat Sapkulchananart bt Sony Dwi Kuncoro 21-19, 13-21, 21-10 (56 Mins)

Third Singles: Simon Santoso bt Peerasak Wiriyapadungpong 21-13, 21-11 (25 Mins)

First Doubles: Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto bt Sudket Prapakamol/Patapol Ngernsrisuk 21-13, 21-19 (30 Mins)

Second Doubles: Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan bt Songpol Anukritayawan/Nitipong Saengsila 21-14, 21-15 (20 Mins)

With these kinda results, I think Malaysia will win tomorrow's semi-final matchup. I don't think the 3 singles can even get a point.

[pauline]

Indonesia bt Thailand and qualifies for the Thomas Cup Finals....but some tense moments. As expected, Taufik lost....(he can claim that he's not suited to the new system...bla bla bla); Sony also lost...which again underlies his mental weakness.

First Singles: Boonsak Ponsana bt Taufik Hidayat 22-20, 21-19 (42 Mins)

Second Singles: Poompat Sapkulchananart bt Sony Dwi Kuncoro 21-19, 13-21, 21-10 (56 Mins)

Third Singles: Simon Santoso bt Peerasak Wiriyapadungpong 21-13, 21-11 (25 Mins)

First Doubles: Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto bt Sudket Prapakamol/Patapol Ngernsrisuk 21-13, 21-19 (30 Mins)

Second Doubles: Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan bt Songpol Anukritayawan/Nitipong Saengsila 21-14, 21-15 (20 Mins)

With these kinda results, I think Malaysia will win tomorrow's semi-final matchup. I don't think the 3 singles can even get a point.
opps, kemana will be very sad about this.....
hope Malaysia team will be doing well tomorrow, malaysia boleh!:D

[wl2172]

As predicted before, Goodbye for the Indonesian Uber team...for the players..this is not your mistake..the biggest fault is on the PBSI side....

This is absolutely a tragedy for Indonesia, I guess.....

Now, it depends on PBSI itself, if they do not change the policy on the ladies team, like sending them to some big tournaments, etc....I think the result will be the same, though for UC 2008 Indonesia will go automatically as host....

A lot of mistakes have been made by PBSI..why didn't they send any ladies players to the WC2005 for example, though they are qualified.....Indonesia have to learn from Malaysia...they are improving a lot now....and Indonesia is just getting worst and worst.....just because of the silly mistake....

How PBSI can get good result if the players are never sent to good tournaments, since the points would be too small form a low quality tournament,and the rank will still be low...so everytime when they participate in big tournament such as AE 2006..they have to face a tough opponent in the early rounds...

So....PBSI....will you change?? Depends on you !!!


It is expensive to send players overseas....I guess maybe PBSI could be struggling financially as opposed to BAM? I read in the newspapers that all BAM national players have moved to high tech facility to help them with their physically and mental training, using sports science. This could help I guess.

[badMania]

I think Chinese Taipei has qualified for the Uber Cup Finals.
The website has listed Malaysia vs India for tomorrow's morning match. It's 3rd vs 3rd to determine 5th and 6th placing.

[badMania]

To round up, the qualifiers from the Asian zone are:
THOMAS CUP -- Indonesia, Malaysia, India, Korea
UBER CUP -- Korea, Chinese Taipei, Hong Kong, Singapore

I think it's the first time for India and Singapore if I am not wrong ?? So, congrats to them. I remembered Singapore narrowly missed out in 2002 despite winning 3 matches and losing 1 match. This was because at that time, 3 teams have won and lost the same number of mattches and Singapore lost out due to its inferior record in ties won vs ties lost.

[cxytdn]

There are three Chinese teams - China, Hong Kong China and Chinese Taipei in UC finals in Japan. Maybe Singapore is also 0.5 Chinese team :D

[ronk]

I just saw the score of the Korea-Malaysia Uber tie. Korea won 4-1. Now, which country makes it in -- Taiwan, Malaysia, or Indonesia -- as they all have 2 points?

[badMania]

I just saw the score of the Korea-Malaysia Uber tie. Korea won 4-1. Now, which country makes it in -- Taiwan, Malaysia, or Indonesia -- as they all have 2 points?

Chinese Taipei has qualified because they have a better record than Malaysia. Plus the fact that they have beaten Malaysia earlier.

[badMania]

Predictions for tomorrow's matches:
THOMAS CUP:
Malaysia vs Indonesia
India vs Korea

UBER CUP:
Korea vs Singapore
Chinese Taipei vs Hong Kong

[hcpoirot]

Probably for the first time our Thomas Cup win narrowly from Tahiland 3-2. It another sign taht PBSI very optimistic woth our Thomas team can win Thomas Cup again.

Lets see tommorow result first. If we were again lost to Malay in team event, probably we can kiss the cup goodbye cause practically we will use the same players/formation in Japan later.

[badMania]

Probably for the first time our Thomas Cup win narrowly from Tahiland 3-2. It another sign taht PBSI very optimistic woth our Thomas team can win Thomas Cup again.

Lets see tommorow result first. If we were again lost to Malay in team event, probably we can kiss the cup goodbye cause practically we will use the same players/formation in Japan later.

Unless our 2 doubles and Taufik are in top form, there's no way that we can win the Cup. China, Denmark, Malaysia, and Korea are going to be tough opponents.

[Darma Sucipto]

As predicted before, Goodbye for the Indonesian Uber team...for the players..this is not your mistake..the biggest fault is on the PBSI side....

This is absolutely a tragedy for Indonesia, I guess.....

Now, it depends on PBSI itself, if they do not change the policy on the ladies team, like sending them to some big tournaments, etc....I think the result will be the same, though for UC 2008 Indonesia will go automatically as host....

A lot of mistakes have been made by PBSI..why didn't they send any ladies players to the WC2005 for example, though they are qualified.....Indonesia have to learn from Malaysia...they are improving a lot now....and Indonesia is just getting worst and worst.....just because of the silly mistake....

How PBSI can get good result if the players are never sent to good tournaments, since the points would be too small form a low quality tournament,and the rank will still be low...so everytime when they participate in big tournament such as AE 2006..they have to face a tough opponent in the early rounds...

So....PBSI....will you change?? Depends on you !!!


hey...i agree with you men!!! eventhough i am indonesian supporter, but i dont think indonesia will win the cup this year. malaysia or china have a better chance to win...

[Anak Indonesia]

As predicted before, Goodbye for the Indonesian Uber team...for the players..this is not your mistake..the biggest fault is on the PBSI side....

This is absolutely a tragedy for Indonesia, I guess.....

Now, it depends on PBSI itself, if they do not change the policy on the ladies team, like sending them to some big tournaments, etc....I think the result will be the same, though for UC 2008 Indonesia will go automatically as host....

A lot of mistakes have been made by PBSI..why didn't they send any ladies players to the WC2005 for example, though they are qualified.....Indonesia have to learn from Malaysia...they are improving a lot now....and Indonesia is just getting worst and worst.....just because of the silly mistake....

How PBSI can get good result if the players are never sent to good tournaments, since the points would be too small form a low quality tournament,and the rank will still be low...so everytime when they participate in big tournament such as AE 2006..they have to face a tough opponent in the early rounds...

So....PBSI....will you change?? Depends on you !!!


Absolutely agree. PBSI is to blame for this nightmare.

[xijiayu]

I have a feeling that Indonesia will bounce back in semi-final. remember that the matches between MAS and INDO were always very tense and interesting. TH has a better record against LCW and their two doubles are strong. Sony could beat Hafiz if he is on the top form and Hafiz has not yet impressed me this year.

Anyway, I hope MAS will win.

[SmartCivet]

who knows the detailed score of Hong Kong beat Singarpore(Thoms Cup)?

[taufik-ist]

Probably for the first time our Thomas Cup win narrowly from Tahiland 3-2. It another sign taht PBSI very optimistic woth our Thomas team can win Thomas Cup again.

Lets see tommorow result first. If we were again lost to Malay in team event, probably we can kiss the cup goodbye cause practically we will use the same players/formation in Japan later.


taufik is still adjusting with new score, i hope he learn quick :D

[Tommy Susanto]

Probably for the first time our Thomas Cup win narrowly from Tahiland 3-2. It another sign taht PBSI very optimistic woth our Thomas team can win Thomas Cup again.

Lets see tommorow result first. If we were again lost to Malay in team event, probably we can kiss the cup goodbye cause practically we will use the same players/formation in Japan later.Why don't you kiss me instead:p

[Tommy Susanto]

taufik is still adjusting with new score, i hope he learn quick :DHe should go to honeymoon:D

[jasonmarc]

There are three Chinese teams - China, Hong Kong China and Chinese Taipei in UC finals in Japan. Maybe Singapore is also 0.5 Chinese team :D

i think spore team is more than 0.5 chinese team, all of their members in team
are imported from china, if i am not mistaken. A total of 4 china team will play in
Uber Cup this year, not yet included those from Europe, if any?:D

[taufik-ist]

He should go to honeymoon:D

maybe taufik hasn't had the honemoon.. that will make him dizzy :)

[Tommy Susanto]

i think spore team is more than 0.5 chinese team, all of their members in team
are imported from china, if i am not mistaken. A total of 4 china team will play in
Uber Cup this year, not yet included those from Europe, if any?:DNo another 0.5 are from indo, therefore singapor is the 2nd indon team hehe:D

[**KZ**]

hope there is live score for the finals....hate to wait for the score

[alloh]

any update of MAS vs Indon? :(

[qwertyu]

Malaysia vs Indon should be over by now, as the 21 point format means faster games. But still no results on the net.

[kemana]

Malaysia vs Indon should be over by now, as the 21 point format means faster games. But still no results on the net.
still no news? anyone in Malaysia can get any information about this ?

[**KZ**]

haiz...the website is really slow in updating the results...

[alloh]

Malaysia Won 3-2 over Indonesia.
Malaysia won 3 singles, lost 2 doubles.
Why Wong Chong Hann was not playing in 3rd single player?

LCW beat Taufik 21-13, 21-9
Hafiz beat Sony 21-10, 21-9
KBH beat Simon 24-22, 12-21, 21-17
CCM/KKK lost Luluk/Alvin 16-21,21-14,16-21
LWF/Tazari lost Markis/Hendra 13-21,17-21

[kemana]

Malaysia Won 3-2 over Indonesia.
Malaysia won 3 singles, lost 2 doubles.
Why Wong Chong Hann was not playing in 3rd single player?

LCW beat Taufik 21-13, 21-9
Hafiz beat Sony 21-10, 21-9
KBH beat Simon 24-22, 12-21, 21-17
CCM/KKK lost Luluk/Alvin 16-21,21-14,16-21
LWF/Tazari lost Markis/Hendra 13-21,17-21
ok, got it, thanks

[Scorpio]

Malaysia Won 3-2 over Indonesia.
Malaysia won 3 singles, lost 2 doubles.
Why Wong Chong Hann was not playing in 3rd single player?

LCW beat Taufik 21-13, 21-9
Hafiz beat Sony 21-10, 21-9
KBH beat Simon 24-22, 12-21, 21-17
CCM/KKK lost Luluk/Alvin 16-21,21-14,16-21
LWF/Tazari lost Markis/Hendra 13-21,17-21

I think this is a very good strategy. Since Malaysia already qualified into Thomas Cup Final, should give some tense team match exposure to Kuan Beng Hong especially the score might be 3-2 or 2-3, and the 3rd single will be the decider. Also, Simon is not that outstanding as well. Well done Malaysia coaches, KBH really need to inject extra confidence to become a better player.

[kemana]

I think this is a very good strategy. Since Malaysia already qualified into Thomas Cup Final, should give some tense team match exposure to Kuan Beng Hong especially the score might be 3-2 or 2-3, and the 3rd single will be the decider. Also, Simon is not that outstanding as well. Well done Malaysia coaches, KBH really need to inject extra confidence to become a better player.
yeah, i guess that's a good start for KBH
but , must be a misserable experience for Simon...
and this is not the first time....

[wl2172]

yeah, i guess that's a good start for KBH
but , must be a misserable experience for Simon...
and this is not the first time....

Simon's confidence is gone for team event, Indonesia got to replace him for teams. Anway, scoreline is lopsided between LCW and TH, seems TH dont care. Also Sony got a trashing from Hafiz.

[mtakako]

Wow, too bad none of the Qualifying match is shown. There seems to be some really exciting matchup. Would like to see the match between LCW and Taufik, and Taufik and Boonsak. Anyone know if Taufik is playing bad or did he just got outplayed by those 2 players?





Malaysia Won 3-2 over Indonesia.
Malaysia won 3 singles, lost 2 doubles.
Why Wong Chong Hann was not playing in 3rd single player?

LCW beat Taufik 21-13, 21-9
Hafiz beat Sony 21-10, 21-9
KBH beat Simon 24-22, 12-21, 21-17
CCM/KKK lost Luluk/Alvin 16-21,21-14,16-21
LWF/Tazari lost Markis/Hendra 13-21,17-21

[kemana]

Simon's confidence is gone for team event, Indonesia got to replace him for teams.
replace him with who? they have any choice?

[Darth Andrianus]

Wow, too bad none of the Qualifying match is shown. There seems to be some really exciting matchup. Would like to see the match between LCW and Taufik, and Taufik and Boonsak. Anyone know if Taufik is playing bad or did he just got outplayed by those 2 players?

While I didn't watch the match, I suspect Taufik is just very indifferent. We all know he is perfectly capable of beating Boonsak and LCW if he puts his mind to it. In fact, TH beat LCW as recently as SEA Games in December. Maybe he was thinking 'Indonesia has already qualified, why do I need to work so hard?' or alternatively, maybe he was still in honeymoon mood. Oh well, we will just have to wait for the real TC to see if he can really play well.

[hcpoirot]

Simon's confidence is gone for team event, Indonesia got to replace him for teams. Anway, scoreline is lopsided between LCW and TH, seems TH dont care. Also Sony got a trashing from Hafiz.

The question is who will replace Simon? For this 2 years, PBSI only send Taufik to major events, Sonny and Simon to 3-4 star events. Because of their "want to had profit as much as possible" they only sent players or pairs that can produce money for them.

Look at Malay who send all of their olds and youngers players and pairs. At least KBH is better than Simon in team event. Chinese produce Chen Jin cause they sent him to all major events to gain experiences. Not to mention Korea and Denmark who had hopeful players now. But Indonesia still count on Taufik and Sony. And now we even cannot count on Sonny. Lost to Hafiz still acceptable but lost to Thailand second singles?????????

I can assure you, the PBSI officials will said that its not important we lost to Malay today cause Indonesia already get the ticket to Japan. And we will win the Thomas Cup in May later and another sweet lies will go out of their mouth.

But deep down every one know, we are in deep deep trouble. We already used our best players minus Chandra/Sigit.

But Malaysia haven't play Wong Choong Han and CTF/LWW still they win over us.

So I hope PBSI officials stop your lame excuse and lies. Just state the fact that you will do your best and if Indonesia team failed to win Thomas Cup, all the officials should quit their job cause after 2 years ago failure in Jakarta, the officials haven't produce any good results yet.

Except keep counting on Taufik H, Chandra/Sigit and Nova/Liliy to save their faces in international events.

PBSI officials, shame on you.

[badMania]

Wow, too bad none of the Qualifying match is shown. There seems to be some really exciting matchup. Would like to see the match between LCW and Taufik, and Taufik and Boonsak. Anyone know if Taufik is playing bad or did he just got outplayed by those 2 players?

The fact that Taufik will lose to LCW and Boonsak is pretty expected because Indionesia has already qualified for the final of the Thomas Cup...the sign is pretty obvious from his earlier struggle in beating the Vietnamese player. I have already predicted that Indonesia will lose to Malaysia..and that is the eventual result!

[hcpoirot]

A little review of Indonesia Uber team:

I can't blame Maria Kristin who lost twice to Korea and Malay second singles. The reason is obvious, PBSI didn't send her to any of this year events even they know the qualification is in Feb 2006. But the officials will probably use her as scpaegoat cause she lost twice.

Fransisca and Firdasari only produce one win. (I dont count the match against Iran, cause it was too easy match) And Firda also lost to Malay third singles who I believe if they met in usual event and not team event, Firda will beat her easily.

Suprisingly Lita Nurlita/Lilyana Natsir play eally well together but PBSI never gave them any chance in international events.

The biggest upset I had is for Jo/Gresiia. Cause they can't produce any win at all. I had to said that their good results last year because of their good draw not of their good skill. They met easy pair or mostly European pair first in first or second round.

I can't blame them if they lost (quite easy) to Korea pair Lee/Hwang. But lost to Taiwan pair after CYC had play third singles and only had a moment of rest (cause the matches with new score only last 25 minutes - 1 hour top)

PBSI had to sent more WD pairs to the next events. If Lilyana Natsir had the stamina to play XD and also WD, why not try her? She is the best of ladies double we had right now and funnily they wont let her to play women doubles.

If PBSI still had profit oriented in their mind, I canprobably said that the Uber team will never qualify again to the final except when we are the host. PBSI cannot hope that we will had another Susi or Mia who had incredible talents. They had only play few events before they started become one of top 10 players.

But only a few of players had that talent. Look at Zhang Ning who had to play years and years of badminton before she become the Olympic and World champion. Or lets say Kenneth Jonassen, who cause years of hard works become one of the top players.

If PBSI still didn't realise their mistake, probably 5 years from now our Uber Team will lost when we met Iran team. And that is not a joke. Who would had dream five years ago that Singapore, Thailand and Malay girls can beat our girls? Or that India girls in the steps of qualify to final by beating Thai girls 3-2 in qualify and lost to Hkg 2-3?

And today they lost to Malay girls 2-3 in 5 and 6 placement. Meanwhile Indonesia will fight Thailand for 7 and 8 ranking. How sad :crying: Both for our team and Thai girls who won the Sea Games gold for team event. What a suprise!!!!

[hcpoirot]

The fact that Taufik will lose to LCW and Boonsak is pretty expected because Indionesia has already qualified for the final of the Thomas Cup...the sign is pretty obvious from his earlier struggle in beating the Vietnamese player. I have already predicted that Indonesia will lose to Malaysia..and that is the eventual result!

No, when Taufik lost to Boonsak, Indo and Thai teams were competing to win one ticket to the final. If Thai had another good player for third singles, they will had a chance to win the ticket. How humiliating that will be.

[hcpoirot]

And if our Thomas players didn't bounce back quick enough specially from the mental side, trust me when I said that our team will probably did not reach semifinal in Japan.

Why?

Cause other teams did not fear us as they used to several years ago. Now they had confidence they can beat us if they had the believe in their mind.

Specially the Malay team who already won over us twice in a row. The Malay teams already had this confidence, no matter how tight the games is, they will win. No matter if their players lost to us in individual events which lately they already won a lot against us.

Not to mention China or Denmark who also won over us two years ago.

I really hope that our Thomas team will prepare the best they probably can. And PBSI send all of the team players including the fourth singles to all of the events left before the Final begin in Japan.

If they still money oriented and only send Taufik and doubles pairs to the remaining events, our doom is sealed.

[alloh]

Taufick just got married. So it's expected that he in not in the fighting mood. Also maybe he having "fun game" with his wife too hard until can't play badminton well? :D
I believe when in Japan, he could play very very well.
And for me.... Indonesia Team still the best in Thomas Cup event. Indonesia Team really have high spirit on winning Thomas Cup. And probably Candra/Sigit will play the final stage in Japan.
Indonesia has a very high chances to win this TC in Japan, let's see it .... Believe me. :cool:
As Malaysia, I still remeber we had had many times won the Asia qualifying round as the winner, but then when in the final stage we alwyas lost :(

[abedeng]

Alloh,

Yeah, what u said is true. Malaysian players are prone to "over-ratings".

Then again, what our Indon friends are saying about their team are true also, even us outsiders can see that PBSI have lost its way. And to think that for the past decade, they dominated Thomas Cup (until 2004).

As for Uber squad, actually now Malaysia, Indon, Thai and S'pore are about same level. None are particularly outstanding enough to be a force (though congrats to S'pore for reaching finals).

[Inky2000]

I really hope that our Thomas team will prepare the best they probably can. And PBSI send all of the team players including the fourth singles to all of the events left before the Final begin in Japan.

In reality, sending players to ALL events may do more harm than good.

(1) Frequent competitions may wear the players out, and risk picking up injury;

(2) The players might reach the peak prematurely at a couple of the events and then decline at the Finals (players need to reach the peak at the right event!).

[shawn30_k]

hey not fair ok.we did train this players since they were young.
i think spore team is more than 0.5 chinese team, all of their members in team
are imported from china, if i am not mistaken. A total of 4 china team will play in
Uber Cup this year, not yet included those from Europe, if any?:D

[Scorpio]

The fact that Taufik will lose to LCW and Boonsak is pretty expected because Indionesia has already qualified for the final of the Thomas Cup...the sign is pretty obvious from his earlier struggle in beating the Vietnamese player. I have already predicted that Indonesia will lose to Malaysia..and that is the eventual result!

It is also pretty expected Taufik will not do well in this qualifying round. He might be playing 'mixed double' too much with the newly-wed wife, and always sleep late at night. Energy for badminton might be at 50% or less. :p :p :p

Wait and you will see a very different Taufik in the Final round, especially if his wife carries a small taufik by then. He will be very energetic, because wife's focus will be on small taufik, and his energy will be at his peak. :D :D :D

[Simp84]

as expected TH is a slow starter...
Dont think the score system will suit him:(

[alloh]

Yes .... I think 21 scoring system not good for slow player such as TH & LD.
I think it's good for LCW as he is poor in stamina. So with this 21 scoring system, LCW could go straight to fight hard in the game.

Hope Malaysia could take this opportunity bring back the TC then ~!

[alloh]

MAS vs KOR is starting now....
Lee choong Wei 21 - 10 Lee Hyun Ill

Malaysia Boleh ~!

[alloh]

Lee Choong Wei wins over Lee Hyun Ill with
1st Game: 21-10
2nd Game: 21- 17

MAS 1 - 0 KOR

:o Seem like no one interested in this Asian Qualifying Round Final huh?

[Scorpio]

Lee Choong Wei wins over Lee Hyun Ill with
1st Game: 21-10
2nd Game: 21- 17

MAS 1 - 0 KOR

:o Seem like no one interested in this Asian Qualifying Round Final huh?

Where you get this result?

[alloh]

Where you get this result?

http://www.badmintonindia.org/home.html
Now it has live score ...

Now the 1st Doubles score as below:
1st game Lee/Han 21-20 CCM/KKK

[ants]

Funny thing with the Real time is Korea vs Chinese Taipei? heheh

[mirrura]

http://www.badmintonindia.org/home.html
Now it has live score ...

Now the 1st Doubles score as below:
1st game Lee/Han 21-20 CCM/KKK

alloh, do you know the meaning of the "19" under "lee" and "Koo" column?

[xijiayu]

any score update?

[seven]

Park vs Hashim => first game to Park 23-21

[alloh]

alloh, do you know the meaning of the "19" under "lee" and "Koo" column?

No idea.......... :confused:

[candra W]

wht the overall score beweet korea and malay now?

[xijiayu]

who won the 1st MD?

[alloh]

Hafiz must win his match in order to make Malaysia Team wins the title more comfort.
2nd game 4:4

[**KZ**]

finally....some live scoring...m'sia boleh everyone!!!!
Hafiz lost the 1st game..hope he makes a comeback..eh..what's the results of the 1st doubles ah?

[alloh]

wht the overall score beweet korea and malay now?


MAS 1 -1 KOR

CCM/KKK lost to Lee/Han.
What a upset game ~!!! :(

[**KZ**]

whats the score of 1st doubles?

[alloh]

finally....some live scoring...m'sia boleh everyone!!!!
Hafiz lost the 1st game..hope he makes a comeback..eh..what's the results of the 1st doubles ah?

The 1st Doubles result:
Han/Lee vs CCM/KKK
1st set: 21 - 20 (I wonder why no duece in this game?:confused: )
2nd set: 21 - 19 (should be 19 as the live score hang at 19 before 2nd Single starts)

[badMania]

Indonesia has beaten India 3-1 to seal third-place.

First Singles: Sony Dwi Kuncoro bt Chetan Anand 21-13, 21-18 (29 Mins)

First Doubles: Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto bt Rupesh Kumar/Thomas Sanave 21-12, 21-11 (19 Mins)

Second Singles: Arvind Bhat bt Simon Santoso 21-13, 21-15 (32 Mins)

Second Doubles: Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan bt V. Diju/Jaseel P. Ismail 21-6, 22-20 (20 Mins).


I don't think Indonesia will bring back the Thomas Cup in May, unless, of course there's a miracle or big improvement in the performances of the players (especially the singles). None of the singles players perform convincingly. This is not helped by the lack of match experiences in adjusting to the new system. Sony lost to the Thai singles player and again to Mohd Hafiz Hashim easily. Meanwhile, Simon also lost to Kuang Beng Hong and Arvind Bhat. Taufik's performance has been unimpressive since the start of the campaign, nearly losing to Nguyen Tien Minh. LCW also beat him easily yesterday. I dare not think of possible matches in the Finals against Lin Dan or Peter Gade under the new system.

Indonesia can forget about getting points from Sony or Simon against China and other main contenders like Malaysia, Korea and Denmark. So, unless Taufik and the 2 doubles are in top form, there's absolutely no chance of winning back the Thomas Cup.

[**KZ**]

go hafiz!!!m'sia boleh.....park seems to be out of steam....however i think he'll be the next great korean player...improved alot...

[alloh]

Hafiz Hashim won the 2nd singles over Park Sung Hwan
1st set: 21-23
2nd set: 23-21
3rd set: 21- 7
What a come back from Hafiz.... good fight ~! :p

MAS 2 - 1 KOR

Malaysia go go go .... one more point to be the winner of Asian Qualifying Phase.

[abedeng]

Yeah, Hafiz won. Always believed his mental strength in team events!!!

[Scorpio]

MAS 1 -1 KOR

CCM/KKK lost to Lee/Han.
What a upset game ~!!! :(

I don't agree this is an upset here. The Korea is quite good, plus they have a coach in Tan Kim Her, who knows CCM/KKK well.

Korea have 2 to 3 pairs which are almost same par with CCM/KKK.

[kaihing]

malaysia 2nd men double not so strong dont know they can make it or not

[alloh]

I hope Lin/Tazari could win the match to make them more confidence in big tournament. I don't hope Malaysian Team only depend on Singles. At least we must have one good doubles pair.

Lin/Tazari win the 1st set over Jung/Lee with 21 - 17. Good fight as well Lin/Tazari~!

[alloh]

Jung/Lee wins over Lin/Tazari
1st set: 17 - 21
2nd set: 21 - 13
3rd set: 21 - 15

MAS 2 -2 KOR


Now is the time for Kuang Beng Hong. Hope he could make it for Malaysia ;)
:( Poor performance for Malaysian Doubles pairs in this qualifying round. Yesterday both pairs lost to Indonesia, and today both lost to Korea.

[kaihing]

how come is kuan play why not wong choong han?

[sugar_free]

Which Lee was playing as Korea's 1st double against Malaysia? Lee Jae Jin or Lee Yong Dae? The live score only said Lee, and I got confused....

[alloh]

Which Lee was playing as Korea's 1st double against Malaysia? Lee Jae Jin or Lee Yong Dae? The live score only said Lee, and I got confused....

Should be Lee Jae Jin
http://www.badmintonindia.org/tournament/2005-06/TIE%2047%20-%20T%20MAS-KOR.pdf

[abedeng]

KBH won. Yeyy, looks like MAS will depend more on him than WCH for 3rd singles.

[kaihing]

yes malaysia boleh!!!!

[alloh]

how come is kuan play why not wong choong han?

I think it's a great strategy from Yap Kim Hock, to let the youngster get experince in big tournament especially in Semi-Final & Final.

Kuang Beng Hong wins !!! 21-15, 21-12.
Outstanding performance from Kuang! Yesterday he beat Simon, and today in the final he beat Lee Cheol Ho. He gets the winner point for Malaysia in Semi-Final & Final! New hero for Malaysian badminton team :p

So Malaysia is the champion of Asian Phase. ;)

MAS 3 -2 KOR

:cool: Finally, hope all of them can have great performance in Japan!

[eling]

yeah malaysia is da champion of asian thomas cup qualifying...hope they do well in finals later in april!!!at least become the runner up also very good already...it will be better if they become the champion!!!:D :D :D :D :) :) :p :p :p

[eling]

alloh do u have msn messenger?wats da email add?

[alloh]

eling .... I did PM you. Please check your private message.

[Malaysianfan]

The performance of both malaysian doubles was so disappointing. CCM/KKK is ranked top ten, but they are still not on par with other top double pairs, lost to Korean and Indonesian. It seems like Malaysia still needs to depend on LWW/CTF.What a disappointment! We can't just depend on the singles to contribute the point, or else we won't have any advantage against China with strong singles.

[wl2172]

It is also pretty expected Taufik will not do well in this qualifying round. He might be playing 'mixed double' too much with the newly-wed wife, and always sleep late at night. Energy for badminton might be at 50% or less. :p :p :p

Wait and you will see a very different Taufik in the Final round, especially if his wife carries a small taufik by then. He will be very energetic, because wife's focus will be on small taufik, and his energy will be at his peak. :D :D :D


LOL................

[terry]

I think it's a great strategy from Yap Kim Hock, to let the youngster get experince in big tournament especially in Semi-Final & Final.

Kuang Beng Hong wins !!! 21-15, 21-12.
Outstanding performance from Kuang! Yesterday he beat Simon, and today in the final he beat Lee Cheol Ho. He gets the winner point for Malaysia in Semi-Final & Final! New hero for Malaysian badminton team :p

So Malaysia is the champion of Asian Phase. ;)

MAS 3 -2 KOR

:cool: Finally, hope all of them can have great performance in Japan!

Well done!...wish them good luck in Japan and pls bring back Thomas Cup!!:D

[Sammy]

i think spore team is more than 0.5 chinese team, all of their members in team
are imported from china, if i am not mistaken. A total of 4 china team will play in
Uber Cup this year, not yet included those from Europe, if any?:D

Hahaha.....wont be surprise to see Spore in FIFA World Cup in future with "imported" players either. Well, been seeing many comments on Indonesia players not playing well lately, why dont they "import" players. Its a good move. :D

[badMania]

The performance of both malaysian doubles was so disappointing. CCM/KKK is ranked top ten, but they are still not on par with other top double pairs, lost to Korean and Indonesian. It seems like Malaysia still needs to depend on LWW/CTF.What a disappointment! We can't just depend on the singles to contribute the point, or else we won't have any advantage against China with strong singles.

China and Denmark appear to have the most balanced teams. Malaysia is the 3rd strongest. Korea and Indonesia are the weakest among these 5 countries.

[alloh]

China and Denmark appear to have the most balanced teams. Malaysia is the 3rd strongest. Korea and Indonesia are the weakest among these 5 countries.

I think all depend on the luck & form of players. Malaysia could lose in semi when against Indon; which we expected Taufik could take one point from LCW. If so, then Malaysia already lose to Indonesia right?
And also in the Final, Lee Hyun Ill could also beat Lee Choong wei (LHI beat LCW last year in Indon Open). If so again, Korea could win the title right?
For me, it's hard to say which team sure win or lose before competition.
China, Denmark, Indonesia, Korean & Malaysia all of them have the opportunity to bring back TC.
Of coz I hope Malaysia could bring back TC again :p

[tehsham]

Well, been seeing many comments on Indonesia players not playing well lately, why dont they "import" players. Its a good move. :D
I think they 'exported' to many....they need to stop the exodus

[ronk]

Does the ranking in the preliminary round decide the seeding for the finals? If so, winning the finals will be helpful in earning a higher seeding. As is, the top seed for the Thomas cup should be either China, Malaysia, or Denmark? China is the holder. Malaysia is the Asian Zone winner, and Denmark as 2004 runners-up and probably European zone winner.

[Sammy]

I think they 'exported' to many....they need to stop the exodus

Yeah...hahaha....it's time to import now. Anyway cant blame those run-away players. They'll go where attractive offers are.

[hcpoirot]

In reality, sending players to ALL events may do more harm than good.

(1) Frequent competitions may wear the players out, and risk picking up injury;

(2) The players might reach the peak prematurely at a couple of the events and then decline at the Finals (players need to reach the peak at the right event!).

If you look at the schedule, from now until the Final Thomas and Uber match, there are only 3 events.

In March there are Phillipines and China Open. And in April, Asian championship.

So it will be okay to play all this events cause they will have enough rest before Thomas and Uber in Japan. Beside, its good for Indonesia players to adjust to the new scoring specially for our singles players who had worst results in the qualification.

If PBSI again only sending Taufik and the doubles to 2 events in March and Sonny & Simon in Asian championship, they will made another huge mistakes.

[hcpoirot]

Does the ranking in the preliminary round decide the seeding for the finals? If so, winning the finals will be helpful in earning a higher seeding. As is, the top seed for the Thomas cup should be either China, Malaysia, or Denmark? China is the holder. Malaysia is the Asian Zone winner, and Denmark as 2004 runners-up and probably European zone winner.

No.

However playing in the qualification rounds earn the players some ranking points.

Cause the draw for the final will be make in March 2006. This is probably the last time for any players to gain extra point to boost their team ranking.

With this lousy results from Indonesia, probably Indonesia will be seeded 5 after China, Malaysia, Denmark and Korea.

I hope I am wrong. Cause if we seeded fifth, we had a 3 : 1 chances to meet super tough team in quarter final.

My only hope that we only meet Korea in QF. But what if we had bad luck and had to meet China or Malay or Denmark first in QF?

Another history probably in the making, maybe for the first time ever, Indonesia will not made it to semifinal.

And of course in order to win Thomas cup, we probably had to meet Denmark in QF, Malay in SF and China in final.

Can we do it? Based on current condition and only less than 2 months to prepare, I had to said No.

I will be sastify if we can made it to final in Thomas Cup this year.

[ctjcad]

I don't think Indonesia will bring back the Thomas Cup in May, unless, of course there's a miracle or big improvement in the performances of the players (especially the singles). None of the singles players perform convincingly. This is not helped by the lack of match experiences in adjusting to the new system. Sony lost to the Thai singles player and again to Mohd Hafiz Hashim easily. Meanwhile, Simon also lost to Kuang Beng Hong and Arvind Bhat. Taufik's performance has been unimpressive since the start of the campaign, nearly losing to Nguyen Tien Minh. LCW also beat him easily yesterday. I dare not think of possible matches in the Finals against Lin Dan or Peter Gade under the new system.

Indonesia can forget about getting points from Sony or Simon against China and other main contenders like Malaysia, Korea and Denmark. So, unless Taufik and the 2 doubles are in top form, there's absolutely no chance of winning back the Thomas Cup.
Concur with you there, and as i've mentioned the same remark also earlier in another post. But what i would do, though, *if* i were the Indonesian coaches is, I will match up Taufik *NOT WITH* the other countries' top MS player(s), ie. LinDan, PGade, LCW, LHI. But match him up with their 2nd or 3rd best MS player. Why? Because most likely Sony and Simon will not win anyway, so why bother. But by matching up Taufik with the 2nd or 3rd MS player could be a bit different. Same thing with the MD. Matching up Candra/Sigit with the other team's 2nd or 3rd pair is best. That will leave it up to Indo's 2nd MD pair. Who will it be and who will the coach choose?...
But, still, it all depends on Taufik, as he's the main cog. How he will do, if he fail to win, i think it's safe to say Indonesia can say bye-bye to the TC this year.
But perhaps, maybe perhaps, the Indonesian contingent's mindset have already set this in advance, deciding they will take the 4th or 5th seed and it won't be a problem, as long as they already qualified. And kind of use this event to try out the new scoring system, which of course Taufik already had stated that he and some other people will "bring forth" to the organizing committee in the T & U Cup tourney. Thus they won't feel any pressure later when competing. That they can go in there with a "no-lose attitude" and can play "freely" and "loosely"... :rolleyes: :p

[ronk]

Concur with you there, and as i've mentioned the same remark also earlier in another post. But what i would do, though, *if* i were the Indonesian coaches is, I will match up Taufik *NOT WITH* the other countries' top MS player(s), ie. LinDan, PGade, LCW, LHI. But match him up with their 2nd or 3rd best MS player. Why? Because most likely Sony and Simon will not win anyway, so why bother. But by matching up Taufik with the 2nd or 3rd MS player could be a bit different. Same thing with the MD. Matching up Candra/Sigit with the other team's 2nd or 3rd pair is best. That will leave it up to Indo's 2nd MD pair. Who will it be and who will the coach choose?...
But, still, it all depends on Taufik, as he's the main cog. How he will do, if he fail to win, i think it's safe to say Indonesia can say bye-bye to the TC this year.
But perhaps, maybe perhaps, the Indonesian contingent's mindset have already set this in advance, deciding they will take the 4th or 5th seed and it won't be a problem, as long as they already qualified. And kind of use this event to try out the new scoring system, which of course Taufik already had stated that he and some other people will "bring forth" to the organizing committee in the T & U Cup tourney. Thus they won't feel any pressure later when competing. That they can go in there with a "no-lose attitude" and can play "freely" and "loosely"... :rolleyes: :p

I don't believe that the Thomas cup rules allow a team to play a lower ranking player in first singles and have a higher ranking player play second singles. The only way to get a lower ranking player play first singles is for the higher ranking player sit out the match. So unless Indonesia develops a strategy of increasing the ranking of Simon or Sony ahead of Taufik, Taufik has to play first singles or not play singles at all. If there are few events between now and the Thomas cup final, the rankings will not change much.

[badMania]

Concur with you there, and as i've mentioned the same remark also earlier in another post. But what i would do, though, *if* i were the Indonesian coaches is, I will match up Taufik *NOT WITH* the other countries' top MS player(s), ie. LinDan, PGade, LCW, LHI. But match him up with their 2nd or 3rd best MS player. Why? Because most likely Sony and Simon will not win anyway, so why bother. But by matching up Taufik with the 2nd or 3rd MS player could be a bit different. Same thing with the MD. Matching up Candra/Sigit with the other team's 2nd or 3rd pair is best. That will leave it up to Indo's 2nd MD pair. Who will it be and who will the coach choose?...

Unfortunately, the ordering of singles and doubles are to be based on rankings. Unless Sony's ranking points improve a lot in the next 3 events, we are definitely going to see the same order in the Finals. The same applies for the doubles. Candra/Sigit is ranked 1st in the world and will probably remain that way till the Finals. So, there's no way they will play second doubles in May.

[ctjcad]

Oh ok, i see-Thanks for the explanation ronk and badmania...:)
Hmm, in that case, i wish them the best and good luck to the rest of the TC team and train hard the next 2 months or so if they want to at least give a good result if not win the TC..

[chikkubhai]

http://www.badmintonindia.org/home.html

shows the results showing india lost to indo and hongkong

whose playin best in the indian team.. any comment would be great..

regards
krishna - india
usa - alaska

[Titan]

I'm a Malaysian fan and hope Malaysia will win TC...but I also like to see Denmark win the TC because they never won before and have been close to win it few times before...they have good 2 singles and 2 double players...
and btw, what happen to Indonesia? Come on Indonesia! You and China are badminton giant....wake up hehehe...personally, I still think Taufik Hidayat is the best single player currently....

[taufik-ist]

I'm a Malaysian fan and hope Malaysia will win TC...but I also like to see Denmark win the TC because they never won before and have been close to win it few times before...they have good 2 singles and 2 double players...
and btw, what happen to Indonesia? Come on Indonesia! You and China are badminton giant....wake up hehehe...personally, I still think Taufik Hidayat is the best single player currently....

i hope so... 3rd single will be the key

[hcpoirot]

Concur with you there, and as i've mentioned the same remark also earlier in another post. But what i would do, though, *if* i were the Indonesian coaches is, I will match up Taufik *NOT WITH* the other countries' top MS player(s), ie. LinDan, PGade, LCW, LHI. But match him up with their 2nd or 3rd best MS player. Why? Because most likely Sony and Simon will not win anyway, so why bother. But by matching up Taufik with the 2nd or 3rd MS player could be a bit different. Same thing with the MD. Matching up Candra/Sigit with the other team's 2nd or 3rd pair is best. That will leave it up to Indo's 2nd MD pair. Who will it be and who will the coach choose?...
But, still, it all depends on Taufik, as he's the main cog. How he will do, if he fail to win, i think it's safe to say Indonesia can say bye-bye to the TC this year.
But perhaps, maybe perhaps, the Indonesian contingent's mindset have already set this in advance, deciding they will take the 4th or 5th seed and it won't be a problem, as long as they already qualified. And kind of use this event to try out the new scoring system, which of course Taufik already had stated that he and some other people will "bring forth" to the organizing committee in the T & U Cup tourney. Thus they won't feel any pressure later when competing. That they can go in there with a "no-lose attitude" and can play "freely" and "loosely"... :rolleyes: :p

In order for Sonny to become first rank than Taufik, he had to do real good in the last 3 events. But in his current condition , I doubt he will get good results.

Although Taufik playing the second singles, it will not guarantee a Thomas Cup for Indonesia team either.

2 years ago in Thomas Cup, Sonny play first single and Taufik play second single. The result, we lost to Denmark in semifinal. Denmark won 2 doubles and third singles.

[Syaoran_Style]

Indons talk too much LOL

Is that a rascist comment ?!
Everytime you wrote en BF you showed us (as you said in the swiss open thread) a "silly comment by an under-developed mentality"
It will be better for you and above all for us !! if you don't come back here =)
we don't need you melinda =) and i'm sure some people here hate you

BYE BYE MELINDA !!

[ctjcad]

2 years ago in Thomas Cup, Sonny play first single and Taufik play second single. The result, we lost to Denmark in semifinal. Denmark won 2 doubles and third singles.
Well, we all know what happened in that "strange and weird MD lineup". How in the world did the coaching staff put together that MD lineup?? And not to underestimate the coaching staff's decision nor the players themselves, but did they play Candra/Sigit at all against the Danes?? Who knows??..Hmm, i thought Sigit was still in suspension??..

[badMania]

Well, we all know what happened in that "strange and weird MD lineup". How in the world did the coaching staff put together that MD lineup?? And not to underestimate the coaching staff's decision nor the players themselves, but did they play Candra/Sigit at all against the Danes?? Who knows??..Hmm, i thought Sigit was still in suspension??..

At that time, Candra/Sigit was not even playing together. They were split after the WC in 2003 and were reunited only after the 2004 Olympics.

[ctjcad]

At that time, Candra/Sigit was not even playing together. They were split after the WC in 2003 and were reunited only after the 2004 Olympics.
There ya go....
I'm not saying or discounting the Danes big victory over the Indonesians 2 yrs. ago, they deserved it for sure, nor it's a guarantee the Indos will go to the Final even if Candra & Sigit were playing, but imagine if Candra and Sigit were playing together as the #1 pair 2 yrs. ago instead of the scratch, mix and match pairs...Who knows, maybe history will be different..... :rolleyes:
That's why i mentioned also, that experience play a "big" factor. Sometimes, when a team needs 1 more pt to clinch, sometimes it's better to take a veteran player(s) who's been there, done that, seen it before to finish the job....It's always that "nervous" time.. :p :rolleyes:
Anyways, what's done is done, just gotta accept what it is and move on and hope for better in this year's TC edition.. :cool: