Can someone translate this into english?

http://www.badzine.de/news.asp?id=607

I'm afraid my german is not good enough... :(


EBU über weitere Entwicklung besorgt
veröffentlicht am 22. Februar 2006 von Redaktion (http://www.badzine.de/profile.asp?id=Redaktion). DE - Diverses (http://www.badzine.de/news.asp?cat=31)

Was in letzter Zeit so alles im Weltverband IBF vor sich gegangen ist, wird das IOC nicht gerade erfreuen. Gunalan hier, Gunalan da. Der selbsternannte Deputy-President aus Malaysia waltet und schaltet wie er will. Agiert rücksichtslos und schadet damit dem Image der olympischen Sportart. Doch der Reihe nach.

Alles begann mit dem Umzug der IBF-Administration von England nach Malaysia. Im Zuge dessen mussten alle Mitarbeiter des Weltverbandes ersetzt werden, da keiner sich bereit erklärte nach Kuala Lumpur ziehen zu wollen. Schon nach kurzer Zeit brach dann das Chaos aus. Die Weltranglisten stimmten nicht, damit auch die Setzlisten auf Turnieren nicht. So standen zum Beispiel die Wilson Swiss Open im Januar dieses Jahres gar vor der Absage. Beschwerden aber auch Hilfeleistung seitens einzelner Verbände blieben unbeantwortet.

Dann wurden fast alle bestehenden Verträge, die noch unter der IBF in Cheltenham bestanden, gekündigt. Zuerst mit dem Online-Service sportcal.com, der auch die Website worldbadminton.net entwickelte, dann mit dem TV-Vermarkter Octagon. Die Auswirkungen sind verheerend: worldbadminton.net wurde vom Netz genommen, dafür schnell eine Ersatzlösung gezimmert, die den Ansprüchen eines Weltverbandes nicht im Geringsten entspricht. Hohe Ladezeiten und das schlichte Design nimmt der User noch gerne in Kauf, aber wenn über Wochen und Monate Weltranglisten nicht abrufbar sind, ist das kein guter Service. Der neue TV-Vermarkter ist eine Agentur aus Schweden die künftig horrende Summe für Badminton-Events verlangen wird. Ob es dann noch Übertragungen wie zum Beispiel von den Weltmeisterschaften oder vom Sudirman-Cup auf Eurosport geben wird, ist mehr als fraglich.

Heimliches Meeting in Thessaloniki

Doch was letzte Woche während den Team-Europameisterschaften in Griechenland geschah, ist laut Europäischem Badminton Verband (EBU) nicht mehr tragbar. Punch Gunalan versucht klammheimlich die Kontrolle über die EBU zu übernehmen. Am Montag trafen sich von Gunalan Auserwählte, darunter auch der DBV-Präsident Professor Diether Kespohl, im Grand Hotel Palace in Saloniki. Thema des Meetings: „Die Entwicklung des Badmintonsports in Europa“. Nicht eingeladen und informiert waren der in der IBF für Europa verantwortliche Torsten Berg, alle EBU-Offiziellen und auch das europäische IBF-Council Mitglied Horst Kullnigg aus Österreich wurde nicht eingeladen. Da es ein paar Meeting-Teilnehmern wohl doch etwas unangenehm war, kamen jetzt die Inhalte des Treffens heraus. Gunalan will die EBU in sieben Bereiche aufteilen und befürwortet einen Russen als neuen EBU-Präsidenten, was nichts anderes heißt, als dass er den bisher bestehenden, Tom Bacher aus Dänemark, absägen will. Gunalan macht auch deutlich, dass das Treffen geheim bleiben solle.

Die EBU reagiert mit einem Schreiben an alle Mitgliedsverbände und benannte die Aktion als unerhört. Des weiteren bittet der europäische Verband alle Mitgliedsländer, sich von den Aktionen Punch Gunalans zu distanzieren. Schon jetzt scheint klar, dass all diese Aktionen der Sportart Badminton enorm schaden.

I understand he is criticizing Punch Gunalan's "dictatorial" way of managing IBF, and explaining how PG tried to organize a secret meeting in Thessaloniki to overthrow current EBU board to place a guy of his own instead... :rolleyes:

I found this on the EBU-website
http://www.eurobadminton.org/news_item.aspx?id=1141

This might help...

http://www.eurobadminton.org/news_item.aspx?id=1141

Copying it here :

IBF’s secret plan for Europe 22 February 2006

Rumours of the IBF Executive Deputy President, Punch Gunalan leading a hostile campaign to take over control of the EBU Council have been confirmed and verified.


The Hellenic Badminton Federation invited specific EBU Member Associations to what was called a Special Meeting on Development in Europe. This meeting took place on Monday 13 February 2006 at the Grand Palace Hotel in Thessaloniki, Greece.

The meeting was chaired by Punch Gunalan, who had earlier declared to a Danish newspaper that he was not interfering with badminton politics in Europe. Also present were several European IBF Council Members: Roger Johansson (SWE), Anne Smillie (SCO), Emilia Fountas (GRE), Puzant Kassabian (BUL) and Dieter Kespohl (GER).

The EBU Office, EBU Council Officers or the IBF Vice-President responsible for Europe, Torsten Berg had not been invited, or even informed that this meeting was taking place. Also IBF Council Member, Horst Kullnigg who has a seat in the EBU Council was not informed.

Some EBU Councillors arrived early in Greece to prepare for the 2006 European Men’s & Women’s Team Championships and were surprised to see the above mentioned European IBF Council Members present in Thessaloniki. Some of the European IBF Council Members were prompted to discuss what was going on and therefore some information came out of what was discussed before and during the meeting.

Punch Gunalan was suggesting dividing Europe into seven regions, but had difficulties in explaining how this should improve badminton in Europe or make the EBU Council more efficient.

Punch Gunalan was promoting the President of the National Badminton Federation of Russia, a federation which is not even a Member of the IBF.

It is very clear that what happened in Greece was supposed to take place in secret. The kind of ideas presented and the arguments against the current EBU Council has never been discussed with the EBU Council.

This therefore implies that an article published on this website on 23 January 2006 suggesting that several European IBF Council Members were being “kept in the dark” may not now be accurate, as some IBF Council Members are now fully aware of actions being taken to effect a “take over” of the EBU. (See the link below to view this article).

The EBU Council strongly protests against such actions from the IBF Executive Deputy President. It is unheard of that a campaign is being led by IBF in Europe to take political control.

We strongly appeal to all EBU Member Associations to distance themselves from such actions.

This is absolutely disgraceful, Punch Gunalan must resign immediately, now that this has been made public!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

this can only harm badminton....

this can only harm badminton....

Of course!!!!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Punch Gunalan should be fired, all he can do is harm badminton more and more! :(:(:(

There is a saying in Chinese:

以大事小，仁；
以小事大，智。

:)

There is a saying in Chinese:

以大事小，仁；
以小事大，智。

:)


Mind translating? ;)
(for ignorants like me who can read nor talk chinese! :p )

PUNISH PUNSH !

Time for him to go

Mind translating? ;)
(for ignorants like me who can't read nor talk chinese! :p )

Correction !! :p

I was expecting taneepak to jump into this thread to defend his long time friend Punch Gunalan...
And was wondering what he could invent this time to defend the undefendable! :p

Anyway if this isn't the end of Punch Gunalan, it would mean IBF is in an even worse state than I thought ... :(

I was expecting taneepak to jump into this thread to defend his long time friend Punch Gunalan...
And was wondering what he could invent this time to defend the undefendable! :p


:p LOL! ...I didn't know Eepak and Puncho were friends.

:p LOL! ...I didn't know Eepak and Puncho were friends.

Don't know if they really are, but they must be somehow, as Taneepak always blindly defends him... :p:D

Mind translating? ;)
(for ignorants like me who can read nor talk chinese! :p )


google translate =
Is small by the important matter, Is big by the minor matter.

google translate =
Is small by the important matter, Is big by the minor matter.

Still didn't get it... :o :confused:

Don't know if they really are, but they must be somehow, as Taneepak always blindly defends him... :p:D

This is true. Eepak does defend Puncho. :p

This is true. Eepak does defend Puncho. :p

Maybe he is Punch Gunalan himself? who knows... ;)

Maybe he is Punch Gunalan himself? who knows... ;)

how about this? punch gunalan and the "russian issue" today on the ebu site:

http://www.eurobadminton.org/news_item.aspx?id=1147

Punch Gunalan has really gone too far!!!
He must be FIRED !!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Copying the article here :


European Team Championships almost cancelled

23 February 2006

The Russian Issue
The 2006 European Men’s & Women’s Team Championships 2006 were at risk of being cancelled due to IBF interference. IBF worked very hard to prevent the team from the IBF Member Association, the Russian Badminton Federation, from playing in the tournament. Had the team not been allowed to participate, and this later ruled in court to be a false decision, the results from the tournament could have been at risk of being declared not valid.


Internal Russian battle for power
In August 2005 rumours started that the Executive Deputy President of the International Badminton Federation (IBF), Punch Gunalan had found a wealthy Russian politician who should replace the current EBU President.

It was soon understood that the Russian gentleman was the President of a new organisation in Russia called the National Badminton Federation of Russia (NBFR) who was seeking to replace the existing Federation in Russia called the Russian Badminton Federation (RBF).

Two Russian teams entered for the 2005 European U17 Team Championships
In September 2005 the European U17 Team Championships were to be played in Brno, Czech Republic. The European Badminton Union (EBU) had received team nominations from the two Federations claiming that they were both eligible to represent Russia.

The EBU was very clear that this was a Membership issue. According to IBF and EBU regulations federations are first members of the IBF and by this membership they become members of the relevant Continental Confederation. Therefore IBF was asked for advice on which team to accept for the tournament. The IBF Executive Deputy President took a decision only 36 hours before the tournament would start. The decision was to allow the team from the new federation (NBFR) to play.

The EBU had no other choice than to follow this decision. Unfortunately the decision came so late that both teams had travelled to Brno. It was a very unpleasant experience to inform a group of young players that they were not allowed to play, but the IBF decision left the EBU with no other option.

IBF are taken to the Court of Arbitration in Sport
The old federation (RBF) felt strongly violated by being denied the chance to compete. Therefore they decided to take the IBF to the Court of Arbitration in Sport (CAS) in Lausanne, Switzerland to have the case decided on.

Meanwhile the IBF decision meant that for individual tournaments the NBFR was also responsible for entering Russian players.

The CAS reached its decision at the end of January 2006 in favour of the RBF. The IBF and specifically the Executive Deputy President, Punch Gunalan was ruled to have acted negligent and without respect for natural justice. He was also accused for having violated the Olympic Charter. Punch Gunalan was ruled to have taken the decision without hearing the situation explained by the current IBF Member, RBF. He was also ruled to have made the decision without sufficient involvement of the IBF Executive Board or IBF Council.

Following the CAS ruling, the IBF was instructed to reinstate the RBF in good standing as the authorised affiliated Member of the IBF.

Two Russian teams entered for the 2006 European Men’s & Women’s Team Championships
The two Russian Federations had also entered teams for the 2006 European Men’s & Women’s Team Championships which are also the European Preliminary competition for the Thomas & Uber Cup finals, This tournaments has been outsourced and contracted by IBF to the EBU to organise. The EBU had contracted the Hellenic Badminton Federation to organise the event from 14-19 February 2006 in Thessaloniki, Greece.

The EBU had since the deadline for entering the tournament asked the IBF to advise which federation to accept, knowing that there was a CAS case pending. The IBF failed to advise EBU on this matter despite several reminders.

The EBU received the news of the CAS decision 14 days before the start of the Thomas & Uber Cup understanding that the RBF was the IBF Member and that the NBFR at no time had been a member of the IBF. Therefore the RBF was informed that their entry was accepted and the NBFR was informed that their entry was declined.

IBF extends pressure on EBU
In the days before the tournament several IBF Council Members were trying to influence EBU staff and officers to take a decision in favour of the NBFR, so that this organisation could participate in the tournament. Of course the EBU could not take such a decision, as participation was subject to an IBF decision on Membership and the CAS case had ruled differently less than two weeks before.

On the 13 February, IBF Councillors and staff were spreading rumours that the RBF would not be allowed to play. No official decision was however conveyed to the EBU.

The Russian team were due to be on court at 13.00 hours on 14 February 2006. At around 11.00 hours, EBU received a letter signed by IBF Councillors, Roger Johansson and Emilia Fountas informing the EBU that the RBF should not be allowed to play. They claimed to be making this decision on behalf of the IBF Executive Board.

In order to be sure that the right authority was given, the EBU requested proof that such an authority was given by the IBF Executive Board. At 12.30 hours the EBU received a letter signed by the Executive Deputy President of the IBF authorising Roger Johansson and Emilia Fountas to make a decision regarding the Russian situation on behalf of the IBF Executive Board.

The EBU in return presented a written reply stating that the decision would of course be adhered to, but that it would be under protest. The reason for the protest was that the EBU was of the opinion that IBF was breaking its own rules and was violating the CAS decision on RBF Membership Status. This had been told to the two IBF Councillors already, but despite this they decided to maintain their decision.

In the written reply the EBU pointed to the possible consequences of the decision. The consequences could be that IBF would lose another CAS case and that the RBF, after being deprived the chance to compete, would ask CAS not to accept the results of the 2006 Thomas & Uber Cup. This would then mean that no European teams would have qualified for the finals of the competition to be played in May 2006 in Japan.

After receiving the letter and finally understanding the consequences of their decision, Roger Johansson and Emilia Fountas decided to withdraw their decision and allow the RBF team to play. This counter decision was given only five minutes before the match was supposed to start.

IBF actions unacceptable
The EBU finds the IBF handling of the Russian issue totally unacceptable. Criticism is especially directed at the involvement of the IBF Executive Deputy President, Punch Gunalan who acts without proper involvement of the IBF Executive Board or the IBF Council.

The motives for Punch Gunalan working so strongly in favour of the new federation, NBFR can only be explained with political motives. It is difficult to understand why normal procedures are not being followed with an IBF Annual General Meeting coming up in May 2006. This would be the ideal forum to discuss situations and opinions on IBF Membership.

rotflmao! So it turns out that our dear little Punch is actually a devious dictator... like any of the actions he had taken the past year was any different than this?

hmmmm.... if he would do this to the EBU, then really the voting that is coming up for the 21 point will likely be rigged in his favor too... someone better look into this guy a bit further, and be ready to check the ballot boxes for vote tampering!

Maybe he is Punch Gunalan himself? who knows... ;)reading the article how Punch would be able to convince and influence the weak minded to do his bidding, likely EEpak was just another victim of the Punch Gunalan gaze....

----( O O )---- look into my eyes
----( O O )---- you will spread my message
----( O O )---- you will believe and defend every word I say!!!!

Starting to look more and more like Sepp Blatter of FIFA vs UEFA. Surprised they left Octagon which is way bigger than the one they're going with now for marketing. Maybe it's time for a new federation not uncommon in other sports like karate & boxing to rival IBF for olympic status ;)
Also, from the german text, they are complaining about the new website and rightly so as most of it is either out of date or doesn't work :D Furthermore the new marketing company is from Sweden and wants to ask alot more money for TV rights which probably means eurosport won't or won't be able to broadcast stuff like the Sudirman and World Championships ... then creating a new scoring system and asking more money for it before it has even proven itself is pretty stupid imho :rolleyes:

New names already starting to come to mind: exactly the same ones as in boxing: WBO, WBC, etc. That sounds pretty authoritive: World Badminton Council :cool:

The European continental federation calls members to prevent an assumption by the IBF:
http://www.badminton.de/EBU.521.0.html

EBU mobilize

(23.2.06) already during the EBU meeting, that took place at the beginning of January in Muelheim, the Gunalan plan employed the officials. Now the EBU makes mobile for the defensive battle. In a circular, which was dispatched yesterday to the members..., the EBU reveals the intention of the IBF of to taking over the EBU.
...
According to representation of the EBU the IBF plan plans to select during the next EBU meeting of the members in April in Eindhoven in place of the Dane Tom Bacher a new president: a in the badminton far away unknown Russian named Shakhrai Sergey Mikhailovich.
Gunalan is on organizing for such things really good. In order to win the majority of the 48 EBU federations for such a logging-off, already times accumulated debts could be settled for example.
...
The EBU protested in its circular of yesterday anyhow first of all energetically against Gunalans actions and appealed to their members to dissociate itself from such procedure to. On the counter measures one may be strained.
...


(excuse please the bad translation)

I think they should cry out "All European united!" instead of "EBU mobilize". :D

But, in fact, according to Asian power in the world badminton, I don't think it's clever of EBU to confront IBF in this way. :cool:

I think all IBF countries - not only the european ones - must get mobilized against Punch Gunalan and his dictatorial and illegal manners.

He has really gone too far, he must leave now! :mad:

Hi ,
Sepp Blatter kick from the bottom, whereas Punch Gunalan smash from the top!!!!:p Different strokes,man:p
Matrix:D
Starting to look more and more like Sepp Blatter of FIFA vs UEFA. Surprised they left Octagon which is way bigger than the one they're going with now for marketing. Maybe it's time for a new federation not uncommon in other sports like karate & boxing to rival IBF for olympic status ;)
Also, from the german text, they are complaining about the new website and rightly so as most of it is either out of date or doesn't work :D Furthermore the new marketing company is from Sweden and wants to ask alot more money for TV rights which probably means eurosport won't or won't be able to broadcast stuff like the Sudirman and World Championships ... then creating a new scoring system and asking more money for it before it has even proven itself is pretty stupid imho :rolleyes:

New names already starting to come to mind: exactly the same ones as in boxing: WBO, WBC, etc. That sounds pretty authoritive: World Badminton Council :cool:

Seems like both are trying to win votes with the smaller nations (probably with some fake promises) to gather a majority but you are right: Blatter hasn't attempted to take over UEFA :D

Maybe he is Punch Gunalan himself? who knows... ;)

No way, Eepak's much more intelligent than Puncho. :D

No way, Eepak's much more intelligent than Puncho. :D

So maybe he is the one pulling the strings behind Puncho... ;)
(I remember him saying something about the "smart" guys pulling the strings behind the powerful ones)

I believe that Scotland have offered to come over to Ireland and explain their reasons for taking the stance that they seemingly have taken.

It had been wondered why Yonex had taken up such a position with so many of the International tournaments. Now, maybe, it makes a little more sense. Is it a form of financial blackmail. Yonex would seem to be onside with Punch and if they, Yonex, were to 'threaten' to withdraw sponsorship from events then many countries, Ireland included, could simply not afford to hold them.

Every countries vote counts in the final shake-up, no matter how small they are so Ireland + Scotland = England + Denmark.

If this is the case then I think that the fight is lost before it starts. This might explain also why the EBU are doing all the shouting and the IBF have not even bothered to reply. The EBU, being Denamrk, can shout all it likes but the votes are in the bag already.

Too far fetched, what do you think?

So, does anyone know how the votes are stacking up?

Mr. F

Who makes decision in corporate Manchester United,

shareholders, coach, manager or players?

Is football better of without Manchester United?

there is a glut of Tv coverage, and a lot of high wages and sponsorship.

Who makes decision in corporate Manchester United,

shareholders, coach, manager or players?

Is football better of without Manchester United?

there is a glut of Tv coverage, and a lot of high wages and sponsorship.

- David G and Malcolm G
- guess not there always has to be a team to "hardly dislike" ;)
- okay

I believe that Scotland have offered to come over to Ireland and explain their reasons for taking the stance that they seemingly have taken.

It had been wondered why Yonex had taken up such a position with so many of the International tournaments. Now, maybe, it makes a little more sense. Is it a form of financial blackmail. Yonex would seem to be onside with Punch and if they, Yonex, were to 'threaten' to withdraw sponsorship from events then many countries, Ireland included, could simply not afford to hold them.

Every countries vote counts in the final shake-up, no matter how small they are so Ireland + Scotland = England + Denmark.

If this is the case then I think that the fight is lost before it starts. This might explain also why the EBU are doing all the shouting and the IBF have not even bothered to reply. The EBU, being Denamrk, can shout all it likes but the votes are in the bag already.

Too far fetched, what do you think?

So, does anyone know how the votes are stacking up?

Mr. F

About the votes, yes this is how things work and this is why the vote is not democratical. You just need to reunite votes of lots of minor federations to have a large majority.
It is easy to get the votes of tiny federations against money, sponsorship, easy promises, or even simple political pressure!

Punch Gunalan know this and uses it!

The only hope is that all federations realize Gunalan has really gone too far and unite themselves to get rid of him...

I believe that Scotland have offered to come over to Ireland and explain their reasons for taking the stance that they seemingly have taken.

It had been wondered why Yonex had taken up such a position with so many of the International tournaments.
Mr. F

Hey Mr. F,

could you tell a little bit more about that, some details or sources?
thanks

Hey Mr. F,

could you tell a little bit more about that, some details or sources?
thanks

Hi,

Sources? Best one really - nose close to the ground!

As for more details - all I know is what I have written but there was a meeting of those in the Punch Camp at the All England. Drinks afterwards in a well known hotel.

Guess the troops were being briefed before being sent out.

Mr. F