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Welshdragon
03-06-2006, 05:42 PM
Hey everyone.

A friend of mine purchased a nano 8000 and after a more careful look i am tempted to buy 1 myself.

He played a relaxed night at his local club tonight and when playing doubles had a clash of racquets with his female partner.

Now his new racquets has broken, completely craked on the 1 side but with no hit mark. this has sort of put me off a little bit.

He had it strung to about 23/24, does this happen alot?

Thanks

Matt
03-06-2006, 05:55 PM
Do you happen to have any pictures of it? Must of hit it quite hard for it to crack, can't tell for sure.

Welshdragon
03-06-2006, 05:58 PM
Do you happen to have any pictures of it? Must of hit it quite hard for it to crack, can't tell for sure.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d123/mikey601/bat.jpg

only pic i have sorry

rsxess
03-06-2006, 06:42 PM
is it TH version? i clashed my nano8000 with my partner 2 days ago, and it was pretty hard clash, but mine is fine, there is no paint chip at all.

Matt
03-06-2006, 06:44 PM
Seems to look bad, possibly a defect.

Better if you have another picture of the close up shot of the crack itself that would be more useful. Lets see what the other members think of it the provided picture.

Welshdragon
03-06-2006, 06:46 PM
will try and get some more up tomorrow

F-Man
03-06-2006, 07:22 PM
I love the Nanospeed 8000 so much that I own 6 of them all atrung at 30lbs. Given that I play primarily doubles, there has inevitably been some racket clashes but as of yet, I haven't seen even so much as a bit of chipped paint! Some people have spoken of the fragile nature of this racket but in my experience, it is solid in both performance and structure, unless you launch it against a wall of course! :p

Welshdragon
03-06-2006, 07:23 PM
i can vouch for it never been launched at a wall...lol

F-Man
03-06-2006, 07:27 PM
i can vouch for it never been launched at a wall...lol

Therefore, it would probably be due to some kind of structural defect or it may simply have been poorly strung by whoever responsible. I have been stringing my own rackets for a while now and it never ceases to amaze me the number of subtle things to look out for especially at high tensions.

HKChua
03-06-2006, 07:45 PM
Therefore, it would probably be due to some kind of structural defect or it may simply have been poorly strung by whoever responsible. I have been stringing my own rackets for a while now and it never ceases to amaze me the number of subtle things to look out for especially at high tensions.

In the first place, has it being confirm that it is authentic?

Thanks.

Welshdragon
03-06-2006, 07:50 PM
was bought from one of the biggest badminton shops in cardiff, Wales UK.

HKChua
03-06-2006, 07:57 PM
was bought from one of the biggest badminton shops in cardiff, Wales UK.

If that is the case, most probably it may be due to manufacturing defects (internal cracks).

Bring it back to the shop, they will be able to tell if it is due to defects. It is warrantied against manufacturing defects...

Thanks.

Welshdragon
03-06-2006, 07:58 PM
Thanks mate, will pass the info on asap to my friend thanks again for the help all

Xuser
03-06-2006, 08:50 PM
I bought mine about 2 weeks ago but decided to restring it as it doesn't looked like it was strung correctly. I had a clashed but it was fine. However, this other chap who bought from the same person (eBay - Sumai03) as I do, didn't restring his racquet. He clashed his racquet but he said they were not hard clash and his racquet broke! They were both TH version. I suspect it was strung incorrectly.

Welshdragon
03-07-2006, 05:50 AM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d123/mikey601/break.jpg

stvliew
03-07-2006, 07:51 AM
Hi rsxess,
Do you think TH version has poor quality?

LazyBuddy
03-07-2006, 11:43 AM
is it TH version?

The earlier batch of NS7k/8k are known for being fragile. I've seen almost every single one of the earlier 7k/8k broken around my local clubs. That including TH, tons of US, and even 1 JP. So, Whether which distribution code is not a main factor (as debated for 10,000 times, in 1,000 other threads already).

twomk
03-07-2006, 11:44 AM
what is the production date of this reacket? (cone and shaft numbers) Many said that the first batch of this racket is really fragile and breaks easily.


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d123/mikey601/bat.jpg

only pic i have sorry

Welshdragon
03-07-2006, 11:51 AM
Sorry guys i dont know the model numbers as its a friends, but we took the racquet back today and the shop send it back to yonex.

So a happy ending

angel tech
03-07-2006, 03:19 PM
Hi, thanks for all the help, the racquet is now being sent to yonex for their evaluation, hopefully they will respond quickly.

charzord
03-07-2006, 09:14 PM
The earlier batch of NS7k/8k are known for being fragile. I've seen almost every single one of the earlier 7k/8k broken around my local clubs. That including TH, tons of US, and even 1 JP. So, Whether which distribution code is not a main factor (as debated for 10,000 times, in 1,000 other threads already). Can you please inform us on what do you mean be "earlier" ns's?

angel tech
03-17-2006, 04:44 AM
The story so far.............


This racquet was returned to Yonex UK on the 4th of March, and today i phoned Yonex UK to check the progress of the racquet, and was told that their manager had made his decision and informed YC Sports of his decision (which i could not be informed of). I telephoned YC Sports, and they told me that Yonex UK had decided not to replace the racquet. I now have to wait for the racquet to be returned to YC Sports to find out why this decision has been made.
YC Sports are going to have a look at this racquet when it is returned to them, and evaluate it themselves. But this leaves a very sour taste in my mouth with regard to Yonex UK. I have had many racquet clashes over the twenty years that i have been playing badminton, and never had a raquet break, let alone a racquet break from such a minor clash, that left no mark on the other racquet at all.
The question is, where do i go from here. In my opinion as a player this racquet was not suitable for the purpose it was made for.

Mike89
03-17-2006, 04:55 AM
The story so far.............


This racquet was returned to Yonex UK on the 4th of March, and today i phoned Yonex UK to check the progress of the racquet, and was told that their manager had made his decision and informed YC Sports of his decision (which i could not be informed of). I telephoned YC Sports, and they told me that Yonex UK had decided not to replace the racquet. I now have to wait for the racquet to be returned to YC Sports to find out why this decision has been made.
YC Sports are going to have a look at this racquet when it is returned to them, and evaluate it themselves. But this leaves a very sour taste in my mouth with regard to Yonex UK. I have had many racquet clashes over the twenty years that i have been playing badminton, and never had a raquet break.

You have never broken a racquet in twenty years of racquet clashing??? I break 2-3 racquets a year by clashing racquets and in addition lose at least one racquet a year for unexplainable reasons. My experience is that often the damage done during a clash will not show up straight away - then suddenly my racquet can break during a minor clash.

If you haven't broken a racquet in 20 years of clashes I suggest it is because you use an older type of racquet. My father has played with the same racquet for nearly 8 years and never broken it. But I go thru on averag 4-5 racquets a year.

angel tech
03-17-2006, 05:06 AM
I can appreciate your comments regarding the strength of older racquets, my current racquet is a TI 3, which has sustained many clashes. If i was playing badminton at a very high level, and my racquets were strung in the high twenties then i would expect string breaks, and maybe the odd racquet failure. But in this case i play at club level with moderate string tensions, well within the capabilities of the racquet. This break occured within an hours use, not 6 months down the line, less than 1 hour from new.

glencomienda111
03-17-2006, 05:10 AM
maybe its from the first batch, mines TH coded strung at 26lbs, prod. date march 2005, had many clashes with my partners but its still fine.

angel tech
03-17-2006, 05:13 AM
When it's returned i'll post up the serial number, it was only bought on the 3rd of March, had it for approximately 3 hours.

Mike89
03-17-2006, 05:15 AM
Didn't know it was less than 1 hour.

Bring back Full Carbon Graphite?

glencomienda111
03-17-2006, 05:18 AM
i bought mine january2006, but the production date is march2005.

blinan8088
03-17-2006, 07:03 AM
The story so far.............


This racquet was returned to Yonex UK on the 4th of March, and today i phoned Yonex UK to check the progress of the racquet, and was told that their manager had made his decision and informed YC Sports of his decision (which i could not be informed of). I telephoned YC Sports, and they told me that Yonex UK had decided not to replace the racquet. I now have to wait for the racquet to be returned to YC Sports to find out why this decision has been made.
YC Sports are going to have a look at this racquet when it is returned to them, and evaluate it themselves. But this leaves a very sour taste in my mouth with regard to Yonex UK. I have had many racquet clashes over the twenty years that i have been playing badminton, and never had a raquet break, let alone a racquet break from such a minor clash, that left no mark on the other racquet at all.
The question is, where do i go from here. In my opinion as a player this racquet was not suitable for the purpose it was made for.

I am sorry to hear that. May I ask how you string your NS8000? Is it strung with 4-knot or 2-knot system?

From what I heard, Yonex can cancel the warranty if your racket is not strung correctly as recommended.

Welshdragon
03-17-2006, 07:05 AM
was strung at the shop it was bought from, i believe with the 4knot

jerby
03-17-2006, 07:11 AM
Bring back Full Carbon Graphite?
good lord no!:p

Mike89
03-17-2006, 07:25 AM
good lord no!:p

Oops - somebody doesn't appreciate my sense of humour... but it would keep my parents off my back about how many racquets I've broken this year. "What again??" "You just hit it how..?"

Is it just peer pressure that makes us feel we have to have the latest and greatest? Yes I would love a nano series - but right now it makes more sense that my sister and I each have AT 700s so we don't run out of raquets when theyre off to re-stringing.

But I guess this (peer pressure) is another Thread?

jerby
03-17-2006, 07:31 AM
Oops - somebody doesn't appreciate my sense of humour... but it would keep my parents off my back about how many racquets I've broken this year. "What again??" "You just hit it how..?"

Is it just peer pressure that makes us feel we have to have the latest and greatest? Yes I would love a nano series - but right now it makes more sense that my sister and I each have AT 700s so we don't run out of raquets when theyre off to re-stringing.

But I guess this (peer pressure) is another Thread?
actually, I do apreciate the humor note the smiley xD.

I'm not raking through rackets like you are, but my mom was reasonably puzzeled with my strings breaking more often then ever.

as for the "latest tech" it might be peer-presurre, it might be confidence, it might be fashion, for me it's the feeling the ns8k gives me, feels só muich better than my at500.(...but my game hasn't improved though..seems some people expect that...i sure don't)

angel tech
03-17-2006, 07:37 AM
In the short time i had to play with this racquet, it felt far stiffer and much more responsive than the TI 3, which is strung to 22lbs.

Mike89
03-17-2006, 07:48 AM
Now I'm depressed. I don't enjoy hearing how great the NS8 feels as I'm obviously not going to get one this side of the summer holidays:(

glencomienda111
03-17-2006, 08:12 AM
get the ns8000 from the latest batch, they are more durable.

Welshdragon
03-17-2006, 09:41 AM
get the ns8000 from the latest batch, they are more durable.

surely any ns8000 from any batch should be made the the equal standards.

MusclePower100
03-17-2006, 11:15 AM
I have no problems with mine, both my NS8000 are still fine and they have been in a lot of clashes, dropped on the floor (didnt' mean to drop it just slip) and hitting the floor when i dive for the shuttle. well actually i broke one and it was defective according to Yonex Canada so i got another one.

quik_silver
03-17-2006, 11:50 AM
Luckily NS8000 isn't in my list for shopping for racquets. :P
Ti-10 all the way for me! :)

glencomienda111
03-17-2006, 12:02 PM
surely any ns8000 from any batch should be made the the equal standards.

yup they should, but from what ive learned here, the first batches of ns8000 where brittle, they break even at the lowest tension and some from mishits not racket clash. the new batches are better.

quik_silver
03-17-2006, 12:19 PM
Haven't Yonex tested out the racquets first before selling them? They are making us players paying racquets that brittles after 1 hours of playing???!!!

bighitter
03-21-2006, 06:35 PM
I have had my NS8000 since December of last year. During february a crack a appeared along the line wear the racket head is welded during the manufacturing process. It then expanded and eventually has now caused the racket head to bend. I am sending an email to centralsports.co.uk in regards to this. I can vouch for the racket when I say I have treated it with the utmost care, my parents can't afford to replace it so I have treated it like it was a new macbook pro! Anyway Below are some pictures of my racket and the crack, sorry for the poor lighting and blurring. :confused:

http://www.geocities.com/tbluca/t104_0975.JPG







http://www.geocities.com/tbluca/t104_0976.JPG


http://www.geocities.com/tbluca/t104_0977.JPG

jerby
03-22-2006, 04:35 AM
that looks a lot liek in-propper stringing...ask your stringer if he had used a plastic-piece in ebtween..like this http://shuttle-house.com/page_top_ENGLISH/Service/String_guidance.html
it devides the force when your stretch(if not over-stretch) the racket head on the head-support...

we Got such a piece form our dealer to string with...but I've heard story's of other people at my club who got it badly-strung withotu such a piece...the poor guy thrashed 3 ti-x's dunno wich number...I think 8...

tk009
03-22-2006, 07:08 PM
Hmm Ive heard alot of stories about the nano's being fragile, I myself own a nanospeed8000 and have had it for a year and a half and at one stage was playing 6 days a week! Being a moderate to crap player Ive framed it alot, miss hit it, and the rare racquet clashes. To date it has several chips and scratches some rather large too, but still works good for me. I suspect it might be the strining the guy who I get to string my racquet does a really good job, and he also owns his own nano so he knows what he's doing (too bad I cant say the same for his assistant). So far at the places I play I havent heard or seen any nano's break but not alot of people use them and my stringer tells me I gotta be careful cause it will break easily.

My advice is if you cant afford replacing a $200+ racquet dont get the nano, and if you do treat it with utmost care and have it strung properly. Ill be getting my second soon xD btw anyone know how the ns9000 compares with the 8000?

tecdecs
03-24-2006, 02:09 PM
I had a Nano 8000 and it lasted about 1 year than i was playing doubles and it cracked...i sent it back to yonex US hopefully they ll send it back it cracked at the 2 o'clock area. sorry i dont have pics.

i now own a Nano 9000 X now and its alot different than 8000.
9000
-frame is thicker (hopefully last longer)
-elastic ti (eh cant prove there really is any though)
-nano scale (cant prove)
-better def. and drives
-doesnt seem head light to me (i like head heavy kinda)

8000
-i can just snap my wrist and make the bird go down easier than 9000
-has more feel (touch)
-better color scheme

conclusion i like 8k more than 9kX because i like just snapping my wrist and making the bird go anywhere i want

angel tech
03-28-2006, 06:32 AM
Tecdecs, good luck getting any joy out of Yonex, the best they'll offer me is 30% off a new racquet, and my racquet had less than an hours use.
Last night i spoke to the other player involved with the minor clash and witnesses to it, and have decided to take this matter through the small claims courts.
I find it amazing that a reputable company such as yonex have made such a decision, in light of the facts. It seems profit far out weighs customer satisfaction, and as a life long yonex brand user, maybe a change is on the cards.

tecdecs
12-30-2006, 08:15 PM
sorry to reply soo late i love yonex they sent me another nanospeed 8000 free of charge kinda i just had to pay the $5 to send in my racket =]