Can anyone confirm the system (SSSDD or SDSDS)?

[weeyet]

is it confirmed already that the SSSDD system will be used in Thomas Cup 2006?

S - singles
D - doubles

[alloh]

A confirmation from Mr Gunalan, The TUC will use the previous format; which is SDSDS but not SSSDD.

Confirmation format as below:
1) 1st Singles
2) 1st Doubles
3) 2nd Singles
4) 2nd Doubles
5) 3rd Singles

Cheer.... I like this format. :cool:

[ctjcad]

A confirmation from Mr Gunalan, The TUC will use the previous format; which is SDSDS but not SSSDD.

Confirmation format as below:
1) 1st Singles
2) 1st Doubles
3) 2nd Singles
4) 2nd Doubles
5) 3rd Singles

Cheer.... I like this format. :cool:
What??another change??..boy, the play format sure is getting it too close for comfort there..Hope they'll stick with this until the tournament starts..:confused: :rolleyes:

[hcyong]

As far as I know the Thomas Cup will use SDSDS while the Uber Cup will follow the traditional SSSDD.

[chris-ccc]

What??another change??..boy, the play format sure is getting it too close for comfort there..Hope they'll stick with this until the tournament starts..:confused: :rolleyes:
I think SDSDS is so much better.

Because the championship can be finished in 3 matches, ie 3-0, in SDSDS, at least, we are allowed to first compare each nation's best Singles Player and best Doubles Pair.

SSSDD is too excessively devoted to Singles strength.

But the best is to finish at 2-2, so that we can compare each nation's 3rd best Singles Player.

[terry]

I also prefer to watch SDSDS... which is more interesting.

[iso300]

I think SDSDS is so much better.

Because the championship can be finished in 3 matches, ie 3-0, in SDSDS, at least, we are allowed to first compare each nation's best Singles Player and best Doubles Pair.

SSSDD is too excessively devoted to Singles strength.

But the best is to finish at 2-2, so that we can compare each nation's 3rd best Singles Player.


I agree that the SDSDS format is better and more fun to watch.

Maybe the organizers for the Uber Cup hopes for 3-0 wins to make it go faster since ladies' singles is played up to 11 points only. :) just kidding... A reasonable guess is that more Uber Cup participants tend to play both singles and doubles. i.e. Mia Audina. She's #1 in singles and doubles for her country, if the SDSDS format is followed then I'm sure she won't be too pleased about it. Also Lee Yun Hwa played 3rd singles and 2nd doubles in 2004.

[alloh]

I agree that the SDSDS format is better and more fun to watch.

Maybe the organizers for the Uber Cup hopes for 3-0 wins to make it go faster since ladies' singles is played up to 11 points only. :) just kidding... A reasonable guess is that more Uber Cup participants tend to play both singles and doubles. i.e. Mia Audina. She's #1 in singles and doubles for her country, if the SDSDS format is followed then I'm sure she won't be too pleased about it. Also Lee Yun Hwa played 3rd singles and 2nd doubles in 2004.

Errrr..... I don't think the 11 scoring system still in used in WS.
And if the case as you mentioned, a player play for singles event & doubles event then they will use the format of SSSDD.
The rest, all will use SDSDS.

[iso300]

Errrr..... I don't think the 11 scoring system still in used in WS.
And if the case as you mentioned, a player play for singles event & doubles event then they will use the format of SSSDD.
The rest, all will use SDSDS.

Sorry about that! This is what you get for doing message postings late at night. :o

[taufik-ist]

A confirmation from Mr Gunalan, The TUC will use the previous format; which is SDSDS but not SSSDD.

Confirmation format as below:
1) 1st Singles
2) 1st Doubles
3) 2nd Singles
4) 2nd Doubles
5) 3rd Singles

Cheer.... I like this format. :cool:



disaster for chin tc team :D

[chris-ccc]

disaster for chin tc team :D
Not really taufik-ist,

Because there are 3 Singles and 2 Doubles, TC is still biased, favouring Singles over Doubles.

The strength in Singles is still very much in China. The strength in Doubles now belongs to Indonesia, Denmark and Malaysia.

So, if China can win all their Singles each time, then China should win by 3-0, 3-1 or 3-2.

[taufik-ist]

Not really taufik-ist,

Because there are 3 Singles and 2 Doubles, TC is still biased, favouring Singles over Doubles.

The strength in Singles is still very much in China. The strength in Doubles now belongs to Indonesia, Denmark and Malaysia.

So, if China can win all their Singles each time, then China should win by 3-0, 3-1 or 3-2.

the key is "lindan must win", if he lose that will surely be a disaster :D

[alloh]

the key is "lindan must win", if he lose that will surely be a disaster :D


Not really ...... I still confident with Fu/Cai.
And Lin Dan is not the only KEY, if LD is sick or injured then CHN still have CH, BCL, CJ & XXZ. Do you think any team MS can really beat them easily even without LD?

[taufik-ist]

Not really ...... I still confident with Fu/Cai.
And Lin Dan is not the only KEY, if LD is sick or injured then CHN still have CH, BCL, CJ & XXZ. Do you think any team MS can really beat them easily even without LD?

bcl and chen hong are not in his best form lately, for chen jin this is his first tc, and china olnly bring 2 1/2 md, what if cai or fu get injured ? :)

[kenvly]

i just check the T & U cup official website, how come they said both man and lady play SSSDD. Here is the link check it out: http://www.yonex-tuc.com/english/whattu/index.html. Any comment :confused: :confused: :confused:

[kenvly]

Me again. Anyone know how the team setup cho # 1-3 in S and 1-2 for D. Do they follow the IBF ranking:confused: :confused: :confused: or they setup the way they want :confused: :confused: :confused:

[ploppers]

what if cai or fu get injured ? :)
lol you sound like your hoping for that to happen ;). Well to be totally honest, I think that China wont have much trouble because they're team is so stable. Remember, Lin Dan is awsome in team matches:).

[taufik-ist]

lol you sound like your hoping for that to happen ;). Well to be totally honest, I think that China wont have much trouble because they're team is so stable. Remember, Lin Dan is awsome in team matches:).

no !!! :p, i'm just curious why LYB only bring 2 1/2 md :D

[other]

no !!! :p, i'm just curious why LYB only bring 2 1/2 md :D
becuase we dont have anymore good doubles players :o and its not like we'll be rotating our doubles too much ;)

[weeyet]

becuase we dont have anymore good doubles players :o and its not like we'll be rotating our doubles too much ;)
that's true. Xia Xuanze is more valuable than Sang Yang :)

I think situation where BCL's injury and CH's off-form is more likely to occur than Cai/Fu's probability to get injured, that's why you need one more single player. :D

[kenvly]

that's true. Xia Xuanze is more valuable than Sang Yang :)

I think situation where BCL's injury and CH's off-form is more likely to occur than Cai/Fu's probability to get injured, that's why you need one more single player. :D


Hey guys! I thinks you guys out of the topic. This topic is all about the system that will play. ok!!! :mad:

[hcpoirot]

The SSSDD systen that the Thomas & Uber site said refer back to the eighties and earlier 90's.

After that IBF always use the SDSDS system unless a team player play both singles and doubles, they can change the system into SSSDD or S1 D2 S2 D1 S3.

Look at the peliminary at feb 06. IBF still use the SDSDS so it will be unlikely they will changed it into SSSDD now in the final.

[taufik-ist]

The SSSDD systen that the Thomas & Uber site said refer back to the eighties and earlier 90's.

After that IBF always use the SDSDS system unless a team player play both singles and doubles, they can change the system into SSSDD or S1 D2 S2 D1 S3.

Look at the peliminary at feb 06. IBF still use the SDSDS so it will be unlikely they will changed it into SSSDD now in the final.

no SSSDD, but SSDDS

[alloh]

no SSSDD, but SSDDS


:eek: Oh? Really? I read many articles, all stated it is SDSDS.
Where did you get this SSDDS information?

[taufik-ist]

:eek: Oh? Really? I read many articles, all stated it is SDSDS.
Where did you get this SSDDS information?


i've heard from a pbsi official, the implementation is not in tc 2006 :D

[kenvly]

i've heard from a pbsi official, the implementation is not in tc 2006 :D


SO confuse now. Anyway, i think should wait until game start. Haha. Thx guys :cool:

[2wheels04]

SO confuse now. Anyway, i think should wait until game start. Haha. Thx guys :cool:

The competition rules state that the order is S1 S2 S3 D1 and D2.
In the group ties all five matches are played. In the knockouts, the ties are not played when one team gains an unassailable 3-n lead. The top seed from Country1 shall play against top seed from Country2, and so on.

You may also check out the official rules (http://www.yonex-tuc.com/english/whattu/index.html):

Comp. Rules . . . The following applies to both the men's and the women's matches.
Each national team consists of 4 to 10 players.
Three teams form one group and play in a round robin competition.
One match consists of three singles and two doubles matches.
The order of the matches is: Singles 1, Singles 2, Singles 3, Doubles 1, and Doubles 2.
The order of the players is decided in accordance with the IBF's official rankings.
The standings in each group dictate the seeding and matchups of the final round.
Comp. RegsAll matches shall observe the regulations defined by the IBF, as well as regulations defined for the event.

[alloh]

No... 2wheels04, that website not updated.
The updated information is SDSDS .... and it's confirmed by Mr.Gunalan.

[Gaintkiller]

Just notice that in the livescore they are playing SSSDD in the TUC first round...

Why?? Can anyone explain....:confused:

[weeyet]

Just notice that in the livescore they are playing SSSDD in the TUC first round...

Why?? Can anyone explain....:confused:

You mean the Korea vs NZ match?
Notice that NZ single players are playing for doubles as well?? The players need time to rest, that's why all the single matches are played first.

[Gaintkiller]

You mean the Korea vs NZ match?
Notice that NZ single players are playing for doubles as well?? The players need time to rest, that's why all the single matches are played first.


Not only Korea vs NZ match....but all matches...

You can find out more from the link below. Denmark had won 3-0 from their
3 mens single. Now their first double are playing...
http://tuc.u-netsurf.ne.jp/thomas/en/live/live-score.html

[hcyong]

For Thomas Cup, the default format is SDSDS.
For Uber Cup, the default format is SSSDD.

In cases where a player is down to play both singles and doubles, then the order is changed to accomodate the player.

If you notice that NZ singles players also play doubles, you should notice the same for South African players.