MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan vs Peter Gade (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Chen Jin vs Kenneth Jonassen

-- I hope Peter Gade can win after several close encounters with Lin Dan. Expect another 3-setter! Meanwhile, Kenneth might spring a surprise or two after his win agaist Chen Hong. If it goes to 3 sets, no question...Chen Jin to win.

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Wang Lin vs Wang Chen
Mia Audina vs Xie Xingfang (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

-- Wang Chen should win against find the fast-improving Wang Lin, maybe in 3 sets. Meanwhile, Mia is slowly back to her best form. She has recently beaten Wang Chen and Xu Huaiwen and have shown that she can trouble Xie as well (lost in 3 sets in semi-final of All England 2006)

MEN'S DOUBLES
Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen vs Michael Logosz/Robert Mateusiak
Tony Gunawan/Howard Bach vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

-- easy win for the Danes, while Tony/Howard will face a hell of match against the attack-minded Fu/Cai. I hope to watch the match tomorrow and it should be a classic!

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen vs Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing
Du Jing/Yu Yang vs Gao Ling/Huang Sui (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

-- straight forward wins for the Chinese girls, although I won't be surprised if Du/Yu win.

MIXED DOUBLES
Zhang Jun/Gao Ling vs Robert Mateusiak/Nadiezda Kostiuczyk
Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

-- easy win for Zhang/Gao, while Xie/Zhang face a slightly tougher match against Eriksen/Schjoldager. The young Chinese should prevail in 3 sets.

Surprisingly, we don't get all-China semis, even in the ladies' events.

I think if non of the china players win in this tournament, Li Yongbo is going to have a heart attack.....:D

Finals prediction....
MS-Peter Gade
MD-Tony/Howard
WS-Mia
WD-Chien/Cheng
XD-Eriksen/Schjoldager.

Ohhhh, maybe Li Yongbo will cry instead....:eek:

anybody got some info on Robert Mateusiak and his partners? he made his way into two semi-finals of a 6* event.

anybody got some info on Robert Mateusiak and his partners? he made his way into two semi-finals of a 6* event.

MD with Michal Kostiuczyk
XD with Nadiezda Kostiuczyk

MD with Michal Kostiuczyk
XD with Nadiezda Kostiuczyk

Michael Logosz has been paired with Robert Mateusiak for quite some time. They created an upset in the Olympics 2004 when they beat Sigit Budiarto/Tri Kusharyanto and lost out to the eventual gold-medallist Ha Tae Kwon/Kim Dong Moon in the last 16. I would say that they are a quite competent European pair, currently ranked no 11.

[quote=badMania]
MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan vs Peter Gade (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Chen Jin vs Kenneth Jonassen
quote]

I think Lin Dan will come throw quite easily. Hope it will be a exciting match:D
and it could be close for Chen Jin and Kenneth Jonasse.:D :p

My PredictioN:
MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan vs Peter Gade (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Chen Jin vs Kenneth Jonassen

LD will win based on his performance this year, probably in 3 sets. CJ will had a hard fought from KJ. But its time for the youngster to proved that he can earn the second spot in China MS now.

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Wang Lin vs Wang Chen
Mia Audina vs Xie Xingfang (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

Wang Lin will win cause she is much younger than WC and she the most improving younger China WS squads. XXF will win, maybe in 3 sets.

MEN'S DOUBLES
Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen vs Michael Logosz/Robert Mateusiak
Tony Gunawan/Howard Bach vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

Jens/Martin will win but had to be alert all the time. It looks like the new scoring system prove real good for Michael/Robert.
For other match, I can’t predict who the winner is. 50:50. And yes , this match is the most interesting match tomorrow.

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen vs Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing
Du Jing/Yu Yang vs Gao Ling/Huang Sui (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

All Chinese final. Although Gao/Huang had to be extra careful for Du/Yu

MIXED DOUBLES
Zhang Jun/Gao Ling vs Robert Mateusiak/Nadiezda Kostiuczyk
Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

Again another all Chinese final. But the later match, will be a 3 sets win for Xie/Zhang.

anybody got some info on Robert Mateusiak and his partners? he made his way into two semi-finals of a 6* event.


dgdz should know something about them (he is from poland) are you there dgdz?!

I told Cai Yun: Jia You Jia You Jia You!!! Hope Cai/Fu can really Jia You and win!!!!!

Chen Jin Add Oil as well!!!!!

Robert Mateusiak (born 13 January (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_13)1976 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976)) is a male badminton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton) player from Poland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland).
Mateusiak competed in badminton at the 2000 Summer Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton_at_the_2000_Summer_Olympics) and the 2004 Summer Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton_at_the_2004_Summer_Olympics), both times in men's doubles with partner Michał Łogosz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C5%82_%C5%81ogosz).
In 2000 they defeated David Bamford (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Bamford&action=edit) and Peter Blackburn (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Blackburn&action=edit) of Australia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia) in the first round. They lost in the round of 16 to Simon Archer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Archer) and Nathan Robertson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Robertson) of United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom).
In 2004 they defeated Tri Kush Aryanto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri_Kush_Aryanto) and Sigit Budiarto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigit_Budiarto) of Indonesia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia) in the first round, then were defeated in the round of 16 by Kim Dong-moon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dong-moon) and Ha Tae-kwon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha_Tae-kwon) of Korea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea).
Łogosz and Mateusiak twice won bronze medals at the European Championships, in 2000 and 2002.

Name: Robert MATEUSIAK
NOC Code: POL
Gender: Male
Date of Birth: 13 Jan 1976
Place of Birth: Wolomin, Poland
Height: 167 cm
Weight: 66 kg


General Interests

Nickname: Zico. (NOC 13/05/04)
Hobbies: Sport, music and cars. (NOC 13/05/04)
Occupation: Badminton Player
MarStatus: Married
LangSpoken: Polish and English
Club: Polonez Warszawa, Warsaw, POL (Athlete 01/08/03)
Coach: J Szulinski, POL (Athlete 01/08/03)
Debut: for POL, against AUT, Helvetia Cup

AddInformation:

Training Regime
Trains twice a day.
When and where did you begin this sport?
Age 15, Poland.
Why this sport?
His gym teacher asked him to try it and it seemed interesting.
Most influential person in career
Chinese coach, Chu Ju Ling. (NOC 13/05/04)
Hero / Idol
Robert Panaziewicz, his first coach and Chu Liu Ling. (Athlete 11/05/00)
Toughest rival / opponent
All Asian players. (Athlete 01/08/03)
Superstitions / Rituals / Beliefs
He doesn't shave during competitions. (NOC 13/05/04)
Sporting philosophy / motto
"Work hard." (Athlete 01/08/03)
Ambitions
To win a medal at the Olympic Games. (Athlete 01/08/03)
Other Information
PARTNER
His playing partner is Michal Logosz. (Athlete 01/08/03)

Michał Łogosz (born 23 November (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_23)1977 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977)) is a male badminton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton) player from Poland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland).
Łogosz competed in badminton at the 2000 Summer Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton_at_the_2000_Summer_Olympics) and in 2004 Summer Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton_at_the_2004_Summer_Olympics), both times in men's doubles with partner Robert Mateusiak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mateusiak).
In 2000 they defeated David Bamford (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Bamford&action=edit) and Peter Blackburn (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Blackburn&action=edit) of Australia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia) in the first round. They lost in the round of 16 to Simon Archer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Archer) and Nathan Robertson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Robertson) of United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom).
In 2004 they defeated Tri Kush Aryanto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri_Kush_Aryanto) and Sigit Budiarto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigit_Budiarto) of Indonesia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia) in the first round, then were defeated in the round of 16 by Kim Dong-moon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dong-moon) and Ha Tae-kwon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha_Tae-kwon) of Korea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea).
Łogosz and Mateusiak won twice bronze medals at European Championships in 2000 and 2002.

Name: Michal Logosz
NOC Code: POL
Gender: Male
Date of Birth: 23 NOV 1977
Place of Birth: Plock, Poland
Height: 190 cm
Weight: 88 kg

General Interests

Nickname: Gigi. (NOC 13/05/04)
Hobbies: Music, basketball and other sports. (Athlete 01/08/03)
Occupation: Student
Education: Academy of Physical Education: Wroclaw, POL
MarStatus: Single
LangSpoken: Polish, English and Russian
Club: SKB Litpol-Malow, Suwalki, POL (NOC 13/05/04)
Coach: Rrszard Borek, POL, since 1996 (NOC 13/05/04)
Posicion_Style: Attack (NOC 13/05/04)
Handedness: R
Debut: 1996 for POL, against CZE, Thomas Cup, Prague, CZE (Athlete 01/08/03)
Injuries: He has suffered from an elbow injury. (NOC 13/05/04)

AddInformation:

Training Regime
Trains twice a day

When and where did you begin this sport?
Age 14, Poland.
Why this sport?
"Because it's fun."
Most influential person in career
His mother. (NOC 13/05/04)
Hero / Idol
His mother. (NOC 13/05/04)
Toughest rival / opponent
All Asian players. (Athlete 01/08/03)
Superstitions / Rituals / Beliefs
He doesn't shave during a tournament. (NOC 13/05/04)
Sporting philosophy / motto
"Work hard." (Athlete 01/08/03)
Awards and honours
He was named Best Sportsman in Plock in 1995. (NOC 13/05/04) Ambitions
To win a medal at the European Championships and to finish his studies. (NOC 13/05/04) Other Information
PARTNER
His playing partner is Robert Mateusiak. (Athlete 01/08/03)

i hope the WS final will be Wang Chen VS XXF..
Wang Chen wanna prove herself in front of LYB & XXF also wanna win WC becoz she lost to WC in the 10th National Games..it should be very exciting..

I think Tony Gunuwan and Howard Bach can do as they did complete this feat during the 2005 Copanhagen Masters a few months ago. However, this is on the new scoring system so it's really anyone's game.


My PredictioN:
MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan vs Peter Gade (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
Chen Jin vs Kenneth Jonassen

LD will win based on his performance this year, probably in 3 sets. CJ will had a hard fought from KJ. But its time for the youngster to proved that he can earn the second spot in China MS now.

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Wang Lin vs Wang Chen
Mia Audina vs Xie Xingfang (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

Wang Lin will win cause she is much younger than WC and she the most improving younger China WS squads. XXF will win, maybe in 3 sets.

MEN'S DOUBLES
Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen vs Michael Logosz/Robert Mateusiak
Tony Gunawan/Howard Bach vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

Jens/Martin will win but had to be alert all the time. It looks like the new scoring system prove real good for Michael/Robert.
For other match, I can’t predict who the winner is. 50:50. And yes , this match is the most interesting match tomorrow.

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen vs Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing
Du Jing/Yu Yang vs Gao Ling/Huang Sui (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

All Chinese final. Although Gao/Huang had to be extra careful for Du/Yu

MIXED DOUBLES
Zhang Jun/Gao Ling vs Robert Mateusiak/Nadiezda Kostiuczyk
Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (MATCH OF THE ROUND)

Again another all Chinese final. But the later match, will be a 3 sets win for Xie/Zhang.

i think howard and tony can repeat another win against cai and fu.
(i repeated this post in another thread inadvertently)

Can't believe Hafiz lost to Chen Jin in straight set, I think it's about time to move Hafiz under Li Mao and see how it goes, not much time left for Thomas Cup and Hafiz is holding key position for Malaysia to advance deep into the round ...
Just look at Lee Chong Wei and Hafiz before and after the arrival of Li Mao, it's obvious LCW has excelled while Hafiz is stagnant. Coaching might not have everything to do with it but I don't see how Hafiz can contribute with his current form.
Quite dissapointed too with Yeo Kay Bin lost to Lin Dan, not becasue he lost rather he played not to win, very passive. Malaysia player need to learn from Kenneth Jonassen, dare to make changes and take risks to change the outcomes. KJ would have lost if he didn't change his strategy against Chen Hong on set 2 and 3. Chen Hong was caught by surprise of how aggressive KJ was after the lost of 1st game.
Lin Dan has yet to play his best and if he doesn't do it tonight then Peter will be in the final with the current 21 point format.
Most players take too much caution in 21-point system, afraid of making mistakes hence unable to show their true talents(except KJ in QF, Howard/Tony in MD too). The underdog should play like "no tomorrow" then there's chance to win(or loss big).
Just my thougths.

Can't believe Hafiz lost to Chen Jin in straight set, I think it's about time to move Hafiz under Li Mao and see how it goes, not much time left for Thomas Cup and Hafiz is holding key position for Malaysia to advance deep into the round ...
Just look at Lee Chong Wei and Hafiz before and after the arrival of Li Mao, it's obvious LCW has excelled while Hafiz is stagnant. Coaching might not have everything to do with it but I don't see how Hafiz can contribute with his current form.
Quite dissapointed too with Yeo Kay Bin lost to Lin Dan, not becasue he lost rather he played not to win, very passive. Malaysia player need to learn from Kenneth Jonassen, dare to make changes and take risks to change the outcomes. KJ would have lost if he didn't change his strategy against Chen Hong on set 2 and 3. Chen Hong was caught by surprise of how aggressive KJ was after the lost of 1st game.
Lin Dan has yet to play his best and if he doesn't do it tonight then Peter will be in the final with the current 21 point format.
Most players take too much caution in 21-point system, afraid of making mistakes hence unable to show their true talents(except KJ in QF, Howard/Tony in MD too). The underdog should play like "no tomorrow" then there's chance to win(or loss big).
Just my thougths.

I Havent watched enuff hafiz to comment his ability but chen jin i had and he is exciting to watch. JC seem to be faster and has more ammo on attack.

LD was toying with yeoh. Yes, yeoh should have kept on his pace but he seem to give up too soon. This of course is due to LD amazing smashing and smash retrieving.

KJ after 1st game is completely different.... way way more agressive and assertive with his shots. Even his drop shots are firm and KJ's backhand drives and smash totally surprised chen hong.

imo, howard is playing even better than he was in 05 WC.

Personally i hope Peter Gade will win his match against Lin Dan. Currently Lin Dan is still somehow struggling in the New scoring system department.

I think if non of the china players win in this tournament, Li Yongbo is going to have a heart attack.....:D

Finals prediction....
MS-Peter Gade
MD-Tony/Howard
WS-Mia
WD-Chien/Cheng
XD-Eriksen/Schjoldager.

Ohhhh, maybe Li Yongbo will cry instead....:eek:

I usually don't do the all China prediction but...

MS: LD
MD: FHF/CY
WS: XXF
WD: GL/HS
XD: XZB/ZYW

:p :D

Personally i hope Peter Gade will win his match against Lin Dan. Currently Lin Dan is still somehow struggling in the New scoring system department.

Though I usually want LD to win, I want PG this time as well. I hope Tony and Howard win too.

And DANG, mama Mia, she's something else huh? :D

If mama mia shed some pounds.. i think she can be better. Her weight is troubling her knees. At least thats what she told me.

This tournament is beginning to look like China against the rest of the world. China players are getting walk-over when they go against each other. So unfair. Also, it seems the rest of the world is trying extra hard in this tournament to eliminate the China players. Hmmm......conspiracy is happening. What do you think?

If mama mia shed some pounds.. i think she can be better. Her weight is troubling her knees. At least thats what she told me.

That's what I meant, she is so big and yet can play, can hold her own against anyone in the world. Very impressive. :D

That's what I meant, she is so big and yet can play, can hold her own against anyone in the world. Very impressive. :D
She holds a trump card that no-one else has - her ability of "hyper mobility"; she can arch her back and get any overhead shot. If you could Dink with that ability, I am sure you can also play professionally!

I told Cai Yun: Jia You Jia You Jia You!!! Hope Cai/Fu can really Jia You and win!!!!!

Chen Jin Add Oil as well!!!!!

Hey Yannie, as for me, Wang Lin Jia You Jia you Jia you~!!! Cardiff games is tomorrow as well. Hope I can do well too~! Jia you both to Wang Lin and me~! :D

Can't believe Hafiz lost to Chen Jin in straight set, I think it's about time to move Hafiz under Li Mao and see how it goes, not much time left for Thomas Cup and Hafiz is holding key position for Malaysia to advance deep into the round ...
Just look at Lee Chong Wei and Hafiz before and after the arrival of Li Mao, it's obvious LCW has excelled while Hafiz is stagnant. Coaching might not have everything to do with it but I don't see how Hafiz can contribute with his current form.
Quite dissapointed too with Yeo Kay Bin lost to Lin Dan, not becasue he lost rather he played not to win, very passive. Malaysia player need to learn from Kenneth Jonassen, dare to make changes and take risks to change the outcomes. KJ would have lost if he didn't change his strategy against Chen Hong on set 2 and 3. Chen Hong was caught by surprise of how aggressive KJ was after the lost of 1st game.
Lin Dan has yet to play his best and if he doesn't do it tonight then Peter will be in the final with the current 21 point format.
Most players take too much caution in 21-point system, afraid of making mistakes hence unable to show their true talents(except KJ in QF, Howard/Tony in MD too). The underdog should play like "no tomorrow" then there's chance to win(or loss big).
Just my thougths.


Not agree with you!!!!Li Mou stiil not show his ability as coaches.For your information, LCW has excelled before Li Mou arrived in Malaysia. Untill now, Li Mou never produce new player. For example,Yeoh Kay Bin performance still like before he arrived. If you want to campare with Misbun,Misbun have already to improve Kuan Beng Hong a lot until KBH can enter the Malaysia Thomas Cup team this year. So LCW excelled not because the coach but his tallented.Compared then Hafiz, Hafiz are Nusa Mahsuri player so he should train under Nusa Mahsuri coach.

:p Hmmm......conspiracy is happening. What do you think?

LOL! This is badminton, I really do care about conspiracies and stuff. I just enjoy the game...you want conspiracy? The XXZ vs. AHS match, on a few line calls, the shuttle was clearly on the inside of the line, yet called out. How's that for conspiracy? Either that or that line judge needs to his/her eyes checked.

:p

LOL! This is badminton, I really do care about conspiracies and stuff. I just enjoy the game...you want conspiracy? The XXZ vs. AHS match, on a few line calls, the shuttle was clearly on the inside of the line, yet called out. How's that for conspiracy? Either that or that line judge needs to his/her eyes checked.

i might even put the cork was on the green side

i might even put the cork was on the green side

Yep, if the shuttle landed inside the line, it would have to be in the green. :p

:p

LOL! This is badminton, I really do care about conspiracies and stuff. I just enjoy the game...you want conspiracy? The XXZ vs. AHS match, on a few line calls, the shuttle was clearly on the inside of the line, yet called out. How's that for conspiracy? Either that or that line judge needs to his/her eyes checked.

i might even put the cork was on the green side

on the china vs germany MD, beautiful cross court smash return but called out on the third game too, against the german team

aiyah, double posts:(

I am not saying Li Mao is better than Misbun, if Wong Choon Hann don't get good results then we should put him under different coach also(BAM hasn't done so may be because Choon Hann is about to reitire?), same thing can be said about Yeo Kay Bin. Sometime is better to change scenery if the current one doesn't work, just my opinion. LCW style has changed a lot under Li Mao, more on attacking then rallying. Again, different coach has different philosophy and Li Mao style is certainly contrast with Misbun.
We all have no doubt about Hafiz talent as he won the All England in 2003 and if under different coach can possibility take Hafiz to higher level, why not try it? And if LCW can obtain better result under Misbun then I am all for it too. Bottom line, we want to bring back the Thomas Cup trophy to Malaysia and get another big holiday after that(if you remember, we got a day off when we won the Thomas Cup in 1992) :-)
Misbun or Li Mao, Malaysia boleh

I don't think LCW excelled before Li Mao arrived. In 03, the star is Hafiz. In 03/04, when people talk about Malay MS, they would first mention WCH. It is after 05 Malay open that LCW became one of the major opponents to the China team, and it is after 05 WC that LCW was regarded as at the same level as LD, Taufik and Gade.

Hafiz is very talented. I would say he is more talented than LCW. But he did much worse than LCW in the past year. He should change his play style now since otherwise afte one year or two he would be too old to do more attack. Just look at WCH. He is doing more attack recently but the result is he has no stamina for the 2nd and 3rd games. Chen Jin's win over Boonsak and Hafiz proved that under the 21 points system, it is even harder to win playing passively. In both games, the scores are close before CJ launch his final attacks and grab the last winning points. While Hafiz and Boonsak just keep playing slowly and to me that's why they lose.


Not agree with you!!!!Li Mou stiil not show his ability as coaches.For your information, LCW has excelled before Li Mou arrived in Malaysia. Untill now, Li Mou never produce new player. For example,Yeoh Kay Bin performance still like before he arrived. If you want to campare with Misbun,Misbun have already to improve Kuan Beng Hong a lot until KBH can enter the Malaysia Thomas Cup team this year. So LCW excelled not because the coach but his tallented.Compared then Hafiz, Hafiz are Nusa Mahsuri player so he should train under Nusa Mahsuri coach.

Not agree with you!!!!Li Mou stiil not show his ability as coaches.For your information, LCW has excelled before Li Mou arrived in Malaysia. Untill now, Li Mou never produce new player. For example,Yeoh Kay Bin performance still like before he arrived. If you want to campare with Misbun,Misbun have already to improve Kuan Beng Hong a lot until KBH can enter the Malaysia Thomas Cup team this year. So LCW excelled not because the coach but his tallented.Compared then Hafiz, Hafiz are Nusa Mahsuri player so he should train under Nusa Mahsuri coach.

No way to deny that coaching is an important factor , but the talent of the player play the important roles. For LCW, no way to deny that he is a talent player and with the proper guidiance he is albe to "show" or expose out his talent. As said by WCH, LCW is now a LEVEL/class higher then all others Malaysia player currently..

Forgot to inform that Astro Super sport is showing LIVE on the FINAL.. so, don't miss it..

CHN vs DAN man singles. A good pre-show for the Thomas cup.

I don't think LCW excelled before Li Mao arrived. In 03, the star is Hafiz. In 03/04, when people talk about Malay MS, they would first mention WCH. It is after 05 Malay open that LCW became one of the major opponents to the China team, and it is after 05 WC that LCW was regarded as at the same level as LD, Taufik and Gade.

Hafiz is very talented. I would say he is more talented than LCW. But he did much worse than LCW in the past year. He should change his play style now since otherwise afte one year or two he would be too old to do more attack. Just look at WCH. He is doing more attack recently but the result is he has no stamina for the 2nd and 3rd games. Chen Jin's win over Boonsak and Hafiz proved that under the 21 points system, it is even harder to win playing passively. In both games, the scores are close before CJ launch his final attacks and grab the last winning points. While Hafiz and Boonsak just keep playing slowly and to me that's why they lose.



Li Mou just arrived in Malaysia in 2005. But LCW has proved his performance before that(2004-before Li Mao arrived). For example, he had to enter the Malaysian Open Final 2004 under Misbun coaching because LCW never have the good performance before Misbun take the job as M'sia National Coach. So, Misbun have done a good job as coach that time with produce new star in M'sia MS. I think LCW also can excelled under Misbun if he still train with him.
About Hafiz play style, it's not connected with the coach style because all coach sure teach the new style of playing that is attacking. However when they playing, they cannot expelled what he is learning.

where's the "quah, quah, quah, quah" hidayat?:rolleyes:

Now They Are On In Chengdu.....hoping For A Final Between Gade And Kenneth.......they Can Do It...go Go

Zhang Jun/Gao Ling beat Robert Mateusiak/Nadiezda Kostiuczyk 2-0(21-19 21-14)

Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager 0-1 Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (20-22)

Can Anybody Please Keep Updating On The Scores...????

2nd set Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager 0-1 Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (20-22 7-6)

2nd set Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager 0-1 Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (20-22 13-14)

hi guys..can get live score at

http://sports.163.com/special/00051QSE/result011.html

If Its The General Overview You Mean, Then Its Very Slow Updating.

Can You Go Directly To One Of The Matches?

Hi is cctv or guangdongsports showing todays matches?

Hi is cctv or guangdongsports showing todays matches?
ya, someone said 7pm local time

fyi, cctv 5 just switched to badminton right now:)

Dont Think The Livescoring Is Working, But On The Other Hand I Cant Go Directly To Any Of The Maches Caurse I Dont Understand The Chinese Words.....

Dont Think The Livescoring Is Working, But On The Other Hand I Cant Go Directly To Any Of The Maches Caurse I Dont Understand The Chinese Words.....
all i see is a list of results (updated after each game)? you can go directly to a match?

there is also english on this page as well

================
also, could however is watching this on tv/web please help update the mid-game scores?
thanks!

Zhang Jun/Gao Ling beat Robert Mateusiak/Nadiezda Kostiuczyk 2-0(21-19 21-14)

YES!!! :D Fat Boy and GL, jia you! :D :D

2nd set Jens Eriksen/Mette Schjoldager 0-1 Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (20-22 13-14)

Go, go, go XZB/ZYW! Jia you! :)

xiexingfang bt mia audina 21-15 12-21 21-10(?don't remember)

xxf won in 3 sets.... now md starting...

15 21
21 15
11 21

cj also won in the othe court !!! :D

I hope I'm reading this correctly so far:

Matches Completed:
ZJ/GL over RM/NS: 21-19, 21-14
XZB/ZYW over JE/MS: 22-20, 21-19

Matches In Progess:
Chen Jin beating KJ: 21-16...
XXF and Mia split: 21-15, 12-21...

cai and fu warmup look like they wanna win bad..

xxf won in 3 sets.... now md starting...

15 21
21 15
11 21

cj also won in the othe court !!! :D

Wow, China cleaning house...thanks for the update! :D

http://sportslive.sina.com.cn/lives/general/index1955.html

live scoring is available here , in chinese

cai /fu vs tony /bach 21 : 8!!!
it's quick game in 21 system

cai /fu vs tony /bach
3:6 now

cai /fu vs tony /bach 21 : 8!!!
it's quick game in 21 system

Tony is not in his usual form today... :o

cai /fu vs tony /bach

4 : 7

cai /fu vs tony /bach
6:8

in 7 minuts i might add :P
it was kind of boring hehe
*gooo bach and tony!!!*:D:D

cai /fu vs tony /bach 21 : 8!!!
it's quick game in 21 system

cai /fu vs tony /bach

8:8

in 7 minuts i might add :P
it was kind of boring hehe
*gooo bach and tony!!!*:D:D
yeah, kind of boring, my typing speed can't catch up with the
speed of the changing score
why not let them wipe sweat
10:10 now

cai /fu vs tony /bach
11 : 10
please , i want a 3rd set

cai /fu vs tony /bach
19 :14

cai /fu bt tony /bach
21:8
21:15

wow, Fu/Cai is definetly in form. very quick and powerful. They have improve since the last time I saw them played in AE. Cai smashes is getting better and better, and what reflexes.. Totally amazing.... :)

Another nice game coming up.. Gade VS Lin.

21 point scoring system is ok if the games are good, but if the players are not in top form or just playing bad, 21 point is brutally short.

wow, Fu/Cai is definetly in form. very quick and powerful. They have improve since the last time I saw them played in AE. Cai smashes is getting better and better, and what reflexes.. Totally amazing.... :)


yah, fu/cai defense look better than before too.

wow gade looks good today! great rallies amazing pace1!! in for another great game!

peter gade vs lindan
11 : 9 now

peter took the first game 21 : 18

dgdz should know something about them (he is from poland) are you there dgdz?!

Ofcourse I am here - hi All,

Special cheers to Jamesd20 – the master of the dark hall;) ,

I am proud that Robert Mateusiak (nick “Zico”) is under your interest. I will certainly pass this info to him and I am sure he will be proud too.

Robert is at his late twenties, having now the peak of his carrier. The info posted by Jannie is correct but not totally up-to-date.

Robert (together with Michał) has three bronze medals of EC (2000, 2002, 2004).

When Robert was young, he was playing a lot of football, since he was very good they called him “Zico”.

Robert was always one of the most talented players in Poland. However, for a long time he couldn’t find a right partner. There was a time when he was out from the Polish national team and his career was about to stop. Then Robert was paired with Michał Łogosz (a tall (1.9) and very strong player, Robert is about 1.70, veeery fast, superb racket skills) and they become a first Polish pair that is internationally recognizable. They won several tournament of a mid class in Europe, and they were playing in the many top tournaments across the world with mixed successes. Robert and Michał posses stable top twenty position for years and once they even were ranked 6 in the world.

Their most BF’s recognizable success come at the OG in Athens where they won against Tri/Sigit in the firs round, but they had a very bad draw and they could not pass the golden pair - KDM/HTK in the second round.

After the OG their trainer was finally changed (practically in Poland there is no trainer who has enough knowledge and experience to train them – if you know someone who is good and wants to come to Poland just let me know) and a brilliant (and obvious) decision was taken. As you are aware, Poland has the strong LD pair Kamila Augustyn/Nadia Kostiuczyk – Robert was paired with Nadia (who plays better MX than Kamila) and another strong formation was created.

They play for a something like a year and half together and I predict them to be in the top 10 in the nearest future.

As a player Robert is very fast, he plays excellent at the net, executes perfect kills and he masters in the flat play. He is also great defender and very accurate – I described in BF some time ago a training I had with Robert where I was playing drops with him – Robert’s every third (!) shuttle touched the net.

Sometimes I wonder how far Rober and his partners could go if they had a top training and sparing. I was told story that for them the best training is to go to the tournaments in Asia, where they can spare with top pair after the matches. I remember a story that couple of years ago the Malaysian trainer (Yap – I don’t recall the proper spelling) asked Rober and Michał to join the Malaysian’s training to spare and Polish pair beat all the Malaysian pairs in a row.

Now they are the pair to watch, I think that with the new scoring system it will be easier to make an upset I hope that some of them will be created by Robert Mateusiak and Michał Łogosz in doubles and Robert Mateusiak and Nadia Kostiuczyk in mixed doubles. The first test will come at the European Championships.

Regards,

dzgdz

peter took the first game 21 : 18

what`s da result, please? :eek:

Lin Dan vs Gade 17:17

17-17 on the 2nd game... very exciting!

Lin Dan vs Gade 19:18

Peter left a push in. 19-17 Lin Dan.

Lin Dan push wide. 19-18

20-18 now..... let's go into 3rd game!

Lin Dan vs Gade 21:19
Lin Dan Won the second game

what a waste. Lin dropped wide. 20-19.

21 : 19 lindan took the second now

maybe this quick reply thing is good for forumcast. very convenient.

Lin smashed and 21-19. we are moving into 3rd game.

So TYPICALLY

of course none of the programs work for me!

OF COURSE i can not watch... :crying:

hope someone will record

3rd game

Lin Dan vs Gade 1:0

3:3 now 3rd game

what was that fault? i didn't understand it, i think neither did Peter...

3rd game

Lin Dan vs Gade 2:2

peter lead 5:4 now

So TYPICALLY

of course none of the programs work for me!

OF COURSE i can not watch... :crying:

hope someone will record
don't worry , i 'm sure someone will record it

3rd game

Lin Dan vs Gade 3:3

it is 5:5... now

i wish peter to win this game

what a tight match , 6 :6 now

seems KJ is directing peter now

peter leads 8 :6

3rd game

Lin Dan vs Gade 6:7

haha , lucky point peter leads 10 :7

come on peter.....

what was that fault? i didn't understand it, i think neither did Peter...

I think umpire said he moved before serve. Very questionable call.

peter leading 11:9

thanks for the results!!

yes, the quick reply is really good, haha
but i just can't use those little faces here

oh, it's 11 :11 now

lin vs peter
11 :12

lin vs peter
11 :13

i find that the two of them r just like a repeat history of Yang Yang vs Morten Frost. always so close and exciting.

lin vs peter
13 :14

lin vs peter
13 :15

they play on same level!

lin vs peter
16:15 ....

OMG level now 16:16

lin vs peter
17 :18

yes gade is leading back again 16:17

lin vs peter
18 : 18
omg!

just three more point to victory

Can't wait to see this.
Go peter!

please keep on putting the results! thank you!

lin vs peter
18 : 20 !!

I am getting a serious lag problem with PPLive today ... :crying:

lin vs peter
19 : 20

gade gade gade gade gade

lin vs peter
19 :21!!!!

yes congrats to peter gade.

after so many defeats to Lin Dan, he has finally managed to win him. kudos to gade

Great! Go Denmark!!!

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :d

yes congrats to peter gade.

after so many defeats to Lin Dan, he has finally managed to win him. kudos to gade


so, he must like the 21 pt system now:D

awesome match! now i am starting to understand 21pts. when there is such a tight match with just a 2 pts differential, it is quite exciting.

very nice to see Peter win against Lin Dan. i wonder what Peter said to Lin Dan after they shoke hands? he put up a finger signifying "1". was he trying to say "at last i win ONE match from you" ?

how do u guys watch the matches? PPLIVE???:confused:

wow
impressive match

nonetheless, nice to see that this edition of china master doesn't have all-china ms final :o

so, he must like the 21 pt system now:D

LOL! :p

Congrats to PG, he deserves it. Sorry but I want CJ in the final...

Congrats to FHF/CY for spanking Tony and Howard. They have definitely improved all aspects of their game. Now they are not just all offense, they have good defense too. :)

congratulations to peter !!!

next: Du Jing / Yu Yang vs. Gao Ling / Huang Sui. it will be interesting to see how the young pair have matured.

how do u guys watch the matches? PPLIVE???:confused:

yeah. pplive. there are 4 CCTV5 listed. only one of them works for me.

awesome match! now i am starting to understand 21pts. when there is such a tight match with just a 2 pts differential, it is quite exciting.

very nice to see Peter win against Lin Dan. i wonder what Peter said to Lin Dan after they shoke hands? he put up a finger signifying "1". was he trying to say "at last i win ONE match from you" ?

Or maybe he was saying even though he beat LD, LD is still # 1. Regardless, PG is all class. :)

how do u guys watch the matches? PPLIVE???:confused:

sopcast here but it was a bit spotty on the 3rd game:(

so, he must like the 21 pt system now:D
yeah, i guess so too:D

next: Du Jing / Yu Yang vs. Gao Ling / Huang Sui. it will be interesting to see how the young pair have matured.

I still say the "lao jiang" win. GL/HS are oLD sKooL and have what it takes.

yeah. pplive. there are 4 CCTV5 listed. only one of them works for me.

Wich one is that? cause I can't get it to work

Peter Gade played a very good game. Awesome smashes , with power and angle. On the other hand, I am not sure why lin dan doesn't smashes as much as he used to. He has a great smash. He plays with alot more deception now than he used to. I am thinking it is hurting his game. I think players has more problem with his speed and power than his deception. Anyways, hopeful some recorded this.. It's definitely a exciting match.

thanks Kwun ... i'll try all 4 then :rolleyes:

awesome match! now i am starting to understand 21pts. when there is such a tight match with just a 2 pts differential, it is quite exciting.

very nice to see Peter win against Lin Dan. i wonder what Peter said to Lin Dan after they shoke hands? he put up a finger signifying "1". was he trying to say "at last i win ONE match from you" ?

i wonder if Lin Dan can understand? anyone close to him, care to clarify if he speaks english? excluding the badminton Terminologies of course.

ha ha ... Kwun is right, i finally found one that is working =)

thanks !!!!! Heeee

Wich one is that? cause I can't get it to work

one of the slower ones (not the 800k). i cannot remember which one exactly.

awesome match! now i am starting to understand 21pts. when there is such a tight match with just a 2 pts differential, it is quite exciting.

very nice to see Peter win against Lin Dan. i wonder what Peter said to Lin Dan after they shoke hands? he put up a finger signifying "1". was he trying to say "at last i win ONE match from you" ?
I don't know what Peter said, but it was bad attitude from LD when he walked away.
all times I saw Peter lost to LD even in the WC he did not show bad attitude like that.
too bad.
anyway, Congrats to Peter Gade !!!! so well deserved it.
funny that he said he is not focusing on this tournament and then beats Lin Dan.

I don't know what Peter said, but it was bad attitude from LD when he walked away.
all times I saw Peter lost to LD even in the WC he did not show bad attitude like that.
too bad.
anyway, Congrats to Peter Gade !!!! so well deserved it.
funny that he said he is not focusing on this tournament and then beats Lin Dan.

Like I said before, PG is all class. LD should learn to be humble, classy and being a "people's" winner like PG. :)

Peter Gade played a very good game. Awesome smashes , with power and angle. On the other hand, I am not sure why lin dan doesn't smashes as much as he used to. He has a great smash. He plays with alot more deception now than he used to. I am thinking it is hurting his game. I think players has more problem with his speed and power than his deception. Anyways, hopeful some recorded this.. It's definitely a exciting match.

i started watching in the middle of the 2nd game. what i have saw in the last set and a half was really high quality badminton. it is obvious that Peter is very in form. he has been up and down for the past year, this time he is playing very sharp badminton. Lin Dan also appears to be less lazy / laid back as he is normally. although i didn't watch the first game.

it seems to be attack attack all the time though, hopefully that won't get boring.

Du Jing / Yu Yang still a class and a half from their seniors Gao/Huang... i did see some improvement in both offense/defense and consistency.

i started watching in the middle of the 2nd game. what i have saw in the last set and a half was really high quality badminton. it is obvious that Peter is very in form. he has been up and down for the past year, this time he is playing very sharp badminton. Lin Dan also appears to be less lazy / laid back as he is normally. although i didn't watch the first game.

it seems to be attack attack all the time though, hopefully that won't get boring.

Attacking all the time is never boring for me. :p

I don't know what Peter said, but it was bad attitude from LD when he walked away.
all times I saw Peter lost to LD even in the WC he did not show bad attitude like that.
too bad.
anyway, Congrats to Peter Gade !!!! so well deserved it.
funny that he said he is not focusing on this tournament and then beats Lin Dan.

this is the reason y i like other players over Lin Dan. i used to like him, but after seeing all his bad attitude when his is being defeated (e.g. M'sia open, S'pore Open.....), I started to prefer peter, LCW, Taufik, WCH, and etc. especially LCW and Peter. remember LCW was even clapping after his lost in the All England SF while Lin Dan was showing off his great body? should Peter shows his body this time?

Du Jing / Yu Yang still a class and a half from their seniors Gao/Huang... i did see some improvement in both offense/defense and consistency.
Du Jing / Yu Yang seems to be lacking some firepower when playingn against Gao/Huang. they do have pretty good defense, some nice variations. movement around court seems to be slower and less coordinated as Gao/Huang though.

Du Jing / Yu Yang seems to be lacking some firepower when playingn against Gao/Huang. they do have pretty good defense, some nice variations. movement around court seems to be slower and less coordinated as Gao/Huang though.
score now is 21-9 / 10-7. Gao/Huang leads.

So I connect to CCTV-5, buffer is 100% but still get "connecting to media"
same on the other CCTV5 :(

Congrats to Peter!!!

So happy that he won, FINALLY, Lin Dan!

Hope he can beat CJ tmr also...... (sorry Yannie:p )

score now is 21-9 / 10-7. Gao/Huang leads.
15-11 G/H .

16-11 now. if no surprises, G/H will advance into finals

Wei Yili / Zhang Yawen took first game from Taiwan pair. heard from the commentator. no mention of the score.

15-11 G/H .

16-11 now. if no surprises, G/H will advance into finals
they already won, hehe

Huang Sui / Gao Ling won. 21-9 / 21-16

anybody understand what the commentator said at the end? did they say Li Yongbo will be commentating?

or was he commentating today? one of the commentator was fairly knowledgeable, or at least, not clueless like most of the other ones i have seen.

I agree with you Kwun.. the last set and a half was high quality badminton. Both are really agressive. But the first set and half for lin dan was really defensive. And he hardly smashes.

CCTV5 LIVE is over!

Any more game left?
Busy with fixing PPlive and yet still need to rely on forum report:D

Any more game left?
Busy with fixing PPlive and yet still need to rely on forum report:D

ya, Chen Jin vs Kenneth.J

I agree with you Kwun.. the last set and a half was high quality badminton. Both are really agressive. But the first set and half for lin dan was really defensive. And he hardly smashes.
oh i see. so it appears that 21pt hasn't really changed Lin Dan's game then.

yes, li yong bo was comentating today , for ms

kyiyu, the broad cast is over...

Alright! Thanks.
kyiyu, the broad cast is over...

ya, Chen Jin vs Kenneth.J
i heard that CJ already won the game:p

i heard that CJ already won the game:p

what was the score??

How about tomorrow game at PPLive?
Would it be on CCTV-5 and staring 19:00 China time?

yes, li yong bo was comentating today , for ms

oh i see... no wonder i felt that the commentator was quite knowledgeable...... :P

i heard that CJ already won the game:p

yeah. i heard the same.. the only match left for the day was Wei/Zhang vs the TPE pair.

what lin dan my man lost!!!!!!?????? oh well, he beats gade too many times, he was due for a loss. time for chen jin and team china to step up.


if you're chinese, shout "jia you, zhong guo!!!!"

what was the score??
it's 21:16 , 21 : 18 :)

How about tomorrow game at PPLive?
Would it be on CCTV-5 and staring 19:00 China time?
i think it will start at 13:00 china time:)

you know what ? i think this 21 system is not so good for defensive players,
so i am a little worried for Taufik.but, anyway, still believe he can get use to it,hehe, can't wait to see TC game

Good MS Final... Everything is better than an All - Chinese final

Good MS Final... Everything is better than an All - Chinese final
so i am not the only chinese to think so,hehehe:p ;)

I find Taufik to be an attacking player, dont you? I think his smashes are some of the most accurate I've seen. Especially when watching him in Athens.

you know what ? i think this 21 system is not so good for defensive players,
so i am a little worried for Taufik.but, anyway, still believe he can get use to it,hehe, can't wait to see TC game

The men's doubles match proved to be anti-climax. It was over in merely 21 mins....8 mins in the first set and 13 mins in the second set. I have said it before, the pair which is most likely to benefit from the 21 points system is Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun. They are extremely fast and unrelenting in their attack! They also show the other opponents that the only way to win is to attack from the start of the match. Tony/Howard was clearly caught by surprise in the first set, which was over before they had even warmed up. They tried to fight-back in the beginning of the second set until the break, trailing at 10-11. Then, Fu/Cai increased their tempo and finished the game off 21-15.

I personally think that they will triumph over any pair, including Candra/Sigit. The only other pair which is likely to benefit from the change in system is Indonesia's current no 3 pair, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan. They have shown their attacking prowess in the Indonesian Open 2005. Although they are still a little bit inconsistent at the moment, time is on their side. Both are still 21, going on 22...even younger than Fu/Cai or even China's other rising pair, Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo. I hope Markis/Hendra will mature in this 1-2 years time. By the time they are 23-24 (in 2008), I think they will be one of the contenders for the All England, World Championships, and the Olympics crown!

One other pair which will probably become better because of this change in point system is Korean's no 1 pair: Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae.

As for the men's singles match, it was a classic as I predicted...3 close sets and plenty of nervous moments, esp when the scores are 18-18 in first and rubber set.

The first set was tight, until a point when Peter had some good points and stretched his lead to 16-11. However, it was not over as Lin Dan managed to level the score at 18-18. It was at this point that Peter increased his tempo and finished off the set with 3 quick points.

The second set was even tighter, with not more than 3 points separating the players. Peter led 17-16 at the closing stage, only to see Lin overturning that lead into 19-17 advantage. After that, Peter can only manage 1 more point. Lin levelled the match 21-19 in the second set.

The same trend continued in the rubber set. Peter led 10-7, again only to see that lead evaporate. There were a few lucky shots here and there for both players and the scores were tight until it went to 18-18 once more. At this moment, Peter managed to yet again increase his tempo just at the right time and scored 2 crucial points. Lin got another point, but Peter finally won 21-19. Phew...a real close game and u can see how delighted the Dane was!

Congrats to Peter....I predicted that he will win and he did! This victory will certainly be important for him, with the Thomas Cup in mind. He would have gained the mental edge when these 2 great players probably meet again in the Thomas Cup Finals. Lin Dan will be extremely pressurized to deliver the first point, esp when he had lost to Peter in the 21-points system tonight.

With both Lin Dan and Chen Hong losing to Peter Gade and Kenneth Jonassen, things have become slightly better for Denmark. They will need to rely on these 2 singles + Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen to be in top form. Incidentally, Eriksen/Hansen will play their likely opponent in the Thomas Cup Finals tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully, it's gonna be another great match!

Finally, gade beat dan..happy for him

21-point system can be exciting if the score is close, once it's more than 5 points apart then basically is over, simply, there's no come back story for this system like Poul Erik Larsen vs Dong Jiong in Thomas Cup.
Very happy to see Peter finally won one from Lin Dan, that makes the future tournaments more interesting as now we have Lin Dan, Peter Gade, Taufik, Lee Chong Wei all capable of winning any title. I am sure the surge of Chen Jin will further complicate the mix ...
21-point will not work on doubles, the scores advance too fast.
It's still almost the ALL Chinese-affair in the final, lets hope Danish can take 2 titles away from China.

am i the only person who thinks lin dan wasnt playing like his usual self in the SF against gade???

he seemed lethargic, like he didnt care or was ill!!:eek:

he is usualy so much faster - he was sluggish today...
and his usualy he is far more attacking - granted gade was returning alot of lin's smashes but LD's overall demeanour today was far too casual..
althou gade played really consistently today LD's poor form is IMO the main reason why gade won :mad:

and finally, at what time do the Finals start?!

thank you verymuch

NONONONONONONO!!! LIN DAN!!!! LOST!!!!:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
My favorite player!!! :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

I thought Gade was going to lose it after the second set, but he held it together at the end! I think they both played well, the score indicates that, it's just that Gade attacks were more intelligent today, often not giving the angle for Lin Dan to counter attack.

I think the 21 point system has changed the way Lin Dan played today. Especially the way he served. Because as commented by Li Yong Bo, Peter has an excellent return of service, Lin Dan was under pressure to play really tight short serves some of which produced errors, and giving an instant point to Peter. In the last few services, Lin Dan served an almost flick serve/high serve every time, which Gade seized to take the final point.

Because play was almost continuous, one was able to see a lot of sudden/constant changes in tactics and play, which I don't usually notice because players tend to regain their composure and think about the next point before they serve and then execute it, as opposed to do it 'live' and 'uninterrupted'. You can see how well players like Lin Dan and Peter Gade can do this, as opposed to Chen Hong. (i.e. better at thinking spontaneously, ability to adapt). Instead of trying to think of his way out, Chen tried to power his way out, which suits a player like Jonassen fine. In the end, Chen tried to force it too much, predictably attacking every shot making too many errors (in reference to yesterday's match)

I would say Lin Dan's emotions during recent play, is a bit more subdued compared to the past, and he doesn't seem to employ so much time wasting tactics, I guess it's because he is more confident and mature now? (coolheaded, calm). In contrast, Chen Hong seems have gotten a lot more vocal on court. Sometimes to the point of annoying! In his case, before he was blamed for being too inanimate and robotic, but now you can't stop him, even if you win the point, he'll shout! :D

I thought Gade was going to lose it after the second set, but he held it together at the end! I think they both played well, the score indicates that, it's just that Gade attacks were more intelligent today, often not giving the angle for Lin Dan to counter attack.

I think the 21 point system has changed the way Lin Dan played today. Especially the way he served. Because as commented by Li Yong Bo, Peter has an excellent return of service, Lin Dan was under pressure to play really tight short serves some of which produced errors, and giving an instant point to Peter. In the last few services, Lin Dan served an almost flick serve/high serve every time, which Gade seized to take the final point.

Because play was almost continuous, one was able to see a lot of sudden/constant changes in tactics and play, which I don't usually notice because players tend to regain their composure and think about the next point before they serve and then execute it, as opposed to do it 'live' and 'uninterrupted'. You can see how well players like Lin Dan and Peter Gade can do this, as opposed to Chen Hong. (i.e. better at thinking spontaneously, ability to adapt). Instead of trying to think of his way out, Chen tried to power his way out, which suits a player like Jonassen fine. In the end, Chen tried to force it too much, predictably attacking every shot making too many errors (in reference to yesterday's match)

I would say Lin Dan's emotions during recent play, is a bit more subdued compared to the past, and he doesn't seem to employ so much time wasting tactics, I guess it's because he is more confident and mature now? (coolheaded, calm). In contrast, Chen Hong seems have gotten a lot more vocal on court. Sometimes to the point of annoying! In his case, before he was blamed for being too inanimate and robotic, but now you can't stop him, even if you win the point, he'll shout! :D



Oh Li Yong Bo has commented this match!!! Could you please tell a little bit more what he has told about? I find this very interesting.

I find Taufik to be an attacking player, dont you? I think his smashes are some of the most accurate I've seen. Especially when watching him in Athens.
kind of agree, believe he can play as well as in the 15 points system.

The men's doubles match proved to be anti-climax. It was over in merely 21 mins....8 mins in the first set and 13 mins in the second set. I have said it before, the pair which is most likely to benefit from the 21 points system is Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun. They are extremely fast and unrelenting in their attack! They also show the other opponents that the only way to win is to attack from the start of the match. Tony/Howard was clearly caught by surprise in the first set, which was over before they had even warmed up. They tried to fight-back in the beginning of the second set until the break, trailing at 10-11. Then, Fu/Cai increased their tempo and finished the game off 21-15.

I personally think that they will triumph over any pair, including Candra/Sigit. The only other pair which is likely to benefit from the change in system is Indonesia's current no 3 pair, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan. They have shown their attacking prowess in the Indonesian Open 2005. Although they are still a little bit inconsistent at the moment, time is on their side. Both are still 21, going on 22...even younger than Fu/Cai or even China's other rising pair, Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo. I hope Markis/Hendra will mature in this 1-2 years time. By the time they are 23-24 (in 2008), I think they will be one of the contenders for the All England, World Championships, and the Olympics crown!

One other pair which will probably become better because of this change in point system is Korean's no 1 pair: Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae.

i wouldn't put howard B and Tony G as slow starter. In 2005 WC, they seem to have great head start in all their games. Yesterday, it is result of cai and fu improvement and in sync while tony and howard not quite sharp. Tony fed lotta floaters which were bbq buns for the chinese team. This the first time i had seen cai and fu played so fast. Another handicap for team USA is they dont have a coach or assistant to scout out the key opponents before their games which i think explain their slow start this time. On the 2nd game, US team had a great start. Of course too many unforced errors did them in. It all started when service judge slapped a fault on howard flick serve which result a lost of a point instead gaining a point. USA picked up 2 to 3 easy points from howard's flick serves earlier on. Is this another conspiracy?;) A bad/questionable call coming at critical moment.