The last one point in MS finals

[cxytdn]

Who can say it's out or in?

[hcyong]

If the shuttle lands at the fourth picture, then it is in.

[ants]

It was clearly in when i watched it on tv.

[alloh]

The shuttle was very clear "in", and you can see the face of CJ was very fed up at the moment (cause he reliased the shuttle was in). But when the cheating china line judge calls "out" CJ suddenly changed his face and went to his pack immediately for court changing.

If you see the reaction of CJ, Even CJ also had seen the shttler was out.

[layala]

So we all watch "cctv5". It's so stupid of them not to show the slow motion or from another angle. But I think it's in.

[cxytdn]

Next some pics.............

[alloh]

Dear Peter Gade,
You are not losing the match. You are always the Champion for me~!
Support you ~!

[Bbn]

I've also tried but could not capture the frame and there was no replay.

But I think it was actually out the back line.Opponents on the other side

cannot see and always think its in, happens all the time.

Shuttle is clearly out but not incase of Mia's matches against Xie.

I think there is sth about Mia that makes people want to conspire against her and I think I understand it.

[Hugo]

The 8th screen during cxydn's last post appears to be right when shuttle lands. From that shot, it is really not clear cut whether in or out. And I agree with Bbn that it actually looks closer to being out than in. So maybe everyone's all on a wild goosehunt?

[Viper2005]

ya, I agree, the bird was out----LONG----.

I remember there was a call that favored Gade when the shuttle clearly landed IN on the back line and the line judge called it out. Instant replay shows the shuttle hit the outside of the back line. So I didn't see any favorites, the line judge is clearly incompetent. It's obvious that they were watching the match and not the line.

[byelnats]

Well, you can't help to watch the game when it was a final :p

[cxytdn]

The linejudge call it out. No replay. Compare it with the last one point in 1st game.

[kemana]

in my oppion it's really hard for players to tell wether his own shuttle is out or in, if you play you will agree, most of the time you just can't see it,expecially the back line. i do agree what candra did (anouced that his shuttle was out) was very very respectable, but not everyone can be sure it's out or in at everytime, thus it's not always possible for them to correct the linejudge. as to tell wether your opponent's shuttle is out or in , much easier,but not always easy too, sometimes the shuttle lands behind you(which is almost always true to me because of my poor footwork)

[Baderz_Jas]

I think both of the line calls were out. But as kemana said, it's hard for the linejudges and the players and the referee to know wheather it's in or out because it's soo close that you can only decide if they saw it on the big screen (only if they to play it, or have an electronic machine thingy:confused: ):)

[ricksakti]

Dudes, the linesmen are not robot or something. They are human like the players whom sometimes hit the shuttle out or net. From the slow motion hardly i could decide the shuttlle was out or not. So come on, it was enjoyable game so dont worry about that mistake.

[segis]

Dudes, the linesmen are not robot or something.

No, but they should be :D
it was little sad that alot of misscalls (my opinion) was favoured to the chinese players throu this tournament.
hope they will make line robets or something :p;)
a very good idea ricksakti

[Natrificial]

I have to say from these angles you can only judge from the slow motion if the bird was WIDE.

It is impossible to judge a whether the shot is LONG unless you view it from the other angle (down the line, where the other line judge is sitting).

[dpc1l]

From the photos, it's really hard to see, but unless there's REALLY clear evidence that a call is wrong, I'm with the linesman.
I've been a linesman at some pretty high level tennis tournaments and the view from your position on court is far better than anyone elses. If it was a close call, one side of the crowd would agree with you, while the other side would be baying for your blood.

[Han]

I had reivewed few times on the internet video streaming that I recorded and it was in, CCTV5 did not want to show the baseline reply for obvious reason. The initial reaction from Chen Jin also indicated the ball was in ...
Not much for the umpire to overule as it was at the far end.
Chen Jin was still the better player on that day though.

[Slugs]

CCTV-5 has a consistent policy of non-replay of the video when the line calls are controversial, and they tend to be very efficient in this department.

I'm questioning the wisdom of doing this as it gives the impression to the Tv viewers that CCTV-5 is "trying to hide" something. It might have been a small error of judgement on the part of the lines-person (which is the case as the errors are usually in millimeters and hence understandable), but the mere fact that you're not showing a repaly will surely make the TV viewers think that the CCTV-5 is trying to cover up a big line-call anomaly.

[demolidor]

That wasn't even close to being out. It's more about the sideline than the backline. The pics were it looks like it's long is the 2nd bounce. Here is where it lands on the sideline:
(:o same pic as the 3rd in the first post :p , so hcyong was right about it landing between pic3 and 4; the 2nd post with pictures has got the cap where it looks long) And as can be clearly seen the umpire has a perfect view :rolleyes:

[kemana]

I'm questioning the wisdom of doing this as it gives the impression to the Tv viewers that CCTV-5 is "trying to hide" something. It might have been a small error of judgement on the part of the lines-person (which is the case as the errors are usually in millimeters and hence understandable), but the mere fact that you're not showing a repaly will surely make the TV viewers think that the CCTV-5 is trying to cover up a big line-call anomaly. can't agree more.

[alloh]

No more argument. The match is end.
You can't claim the justice from certain China ppl.
As I have written my point in some of the China badmiton forum, but some of them seem really can't accept it. And they attacking me in the forum and try to disreputable me....

No use argue with those people, so I just left the forum and "have to" appologise to them ....
This is some of the China people attitute ~!

[cxytdn]

Many of your points were rejected not only in Chinese forum but also in here. Think it about carefully: "mistakes" are different from "fake or cheating", several bad line-judges of a certain country are different from this whole country. No one want to disgrace you, on the contrary, you had disgraced whole China just for several bad calls - these bad calls in anywhere and any country, and majority of them are not intentional.

[kokotea]

Somehow, it is your attitute problem, IMHO.
First of all, it should be Chinese or Chinese ppl, not China ppl. I don;t think it is polite to call somebody China ppl or America ppl or Malaysia ppl.
Second, you are the only one who blamed CJ for the victory, claimed him as "a Fake Champion, and CJ has not gentlement enough, not a sporting and as a top/high level player style." All the statements are not only flase, but offensing lots of ppls too.

[Brave_Turtle]

That was a very good game IMHO.

Wheter this bird was out or in, there was another moment where CCTV-5 showed Chen Jin bird was clearly in and called out by linejudge.

Human make errors and I don't think that's an excuse for PG lost. He played well, but CJ just did better.

[Slugs]

I don't think we can make an objective assessment on the landing of the shuttle from the replays or for that matter the stills presented in this thread as the camera angle is not the right one.

[Bbn]

This is result I got from capturing shuttle at frame when it hit ground,

b4 bouncing long (not wide).

Looks on the line but hard to tell from this angle, maybe ref or linesman has better view.

Just for record and comparison, its all well past

[layala]

You'd better get over it. Don't even group attack any fans from any certain area. You made your point but you don't have to let everybody agree with you.


No more argument. The match is end.
You can't claim the justice from certain China ppl.
As I have written my point in some of the China badmiton forum, but some of them seem really can't accept it. And they attacking me in the forum and try to disreputable me....

No use argue with those people, so I just left the forum and "have to" appologise to them ....
This is some of the China people attitute ~!