2006 Commonwealth Games individual events [Archive] - Badminton Central Discussion Forums

hcyong

03-20-2006, 09:27 PM

Schedule

Tue - MS (R64), WS (R64), MD (R32), WD (R32)
Wed - MS (R32), WS (R32), XD (R64 & R32)
Thu - All events (R16)
Fri - All events (QF & SF)
Sat - All events (Bronze medal playoff)
Sun - All events (Final)

hcyong

03-20-2006, 10:15 PM

MS R64 completed

All the seeds have byes. They are:
Lee Chong Wei (Mas)
Wong Choong Han (Mas)
Kendrick Lee (Sin)
Chetan Anand (Ind)
John Moody (Nzl)
Robert Milroy (Can)
Aamir Ghaffar (Eng)
Geoffrey Bellingham (Nzl)

Stuart Brehaut (Aus) also has a bye but he takes on Wong CH next.

Notable winners in R64:
Anup Sridhar (Ind)
Aaron Tan (Sin)
Hendra Wijaya (Sin) beating Richard Vaughan (Wal) ret.
Chris Dednam (Rsa)
Andrew Dabeka (Can)
Ali Wajid (Pak) beating Martyn Lewis (Wal) 2-1

hcyong

03-20-2006, 10:29 PM

ants

03-20-2006, 11:11 PM

I dont know weather Wong Miew Choo can advance to the Finals. She has her back injured.

Maz

03-21-2006, 01:18 AM

WS R64 completed

All the seeds have byes. They are:
Tracey Hallam (Eng)
Wong Mew Choo (Mas)
Li Li (Sin)
Anna Rice (Can)
Xing Aiying (Sin)
Rachel Hindley (Nzl)
Charmaine Reid (Can)
Susan Hughes (Sco)

Notable winners in R64:
Kelly Morgan (Wal)
Aparna Popat (Ind) beating Yuan Wemyss (Sco)
Tania Luiz (Aus)
Julia Wong (Mas)
Elizabeth Cann (Eng)
Rebecca Bellingham (Nzl) beating Kellie Lucas (Aus)
Frances Liu Fan (Sin)
Saina Nehwal (Ind)

One more winner to the list is S. Pasturel (Jersey). I umpired her (the last match of the afternoon)...her opponent from Uganda retired due to an injury, poor thing, she could barely hit the shuttle properly. It was basically serve; hit out (or into the net)

hcyong

03-21-2006, 02:20 AM

MD R32 completed

Byes:
Chan/Koo (Mas)
Blair/Clark (Mas)
Beres/Milroy (Can)
Bellingham/Cooper (Nzl)

Notable winners in R32:
Hughes/Lewis (Wal)
Saputra/Susilo (Sin)
Anand/Diju (Ind)
Brehaut/Denney (Aus)
Shirley/Moody (Nzl)
Choong/Wong (Mas)

Two Fiji pairs also made it to the last 16. Their names:
Fong R/Molia B
Fong G/Molia F

hcyong

03-21-2006, 02:22 AM

I dont know weather Wong Miew Choo can advance to the Finals. She has her back injured.

She can probably make it to the QF. But after that the QF and SF are held on the same day. It may be a step too high for her. But I wish her best.

hcyong

03-21-2006, 04:43 AM

WD R32 completed

Byes:
Chin/Wong (Mas)
Emms/Kellogg (Eng)
Jiang/Li (Sin)
Nicholas/Tripp (Eng)
Pasturel/Burns (Jer)
Gutta/Kurian (Ind)

Notable winners in R32:
Bellingham/Hindley (Nzl)
Murgunde/Nehwal (Ind)
Reid/Nichol (Can)
Julia Wong/Ooi (Mas)
Gordon/Runesten Petersen (Nzl)
Lucas/Wilson Smith (Aus)

Dreamzz

03-21-2006, 04:54 AM

yup, i think mew choo deserves to keep her unbeaten run going due to her heroics yesterday.
and since the men's events are likely to be won by the malaysians (well, i'd put it at 60-70%), i'm going to be supporting the indians!
come on anup, anand and diju!
oh yeah, and saina as well, 16 year old taking on the world, well, the commonwealth at least ...

hcyong

03-21-2006, 08:37 PM

XD R64 completed

A lot of pairs has byes in this round, including:
Robertson/Emms (Eng)
Shirley/Runesten (Nzl)
Koo/Wong (Mas)
Clark/Kellogg (Eng)
Saputra/Li (Sin)
Wijaya/Liu (Sin)
Denney/Wilson Smith (Aus)
Wong CH/Ooi SA (Mas) but they face Robertson/Emms in R32

Notable R64 winners:
Cooper/Shirley (Nzl)
Smith/Lucas (Aus)
Archer/Tripp (Eng)
Susilo/Jiang (Sin)
Brehaut/Carrol (Aus)

R32 will be played tonight and interesting matches are:
Robertson/Emms (Eng) v Wong CH/Ooi SA (Mas)
Clark/Kellogg (Eng) v Wijaya/Liu (Sin)
Predicting a double English victory there...

hcyong

03-21-2006, 09:16 PM

MS R32 completed

No upsets.

R16 lineup: (Predicted winner in bold)
Lee CW (Mas) v Bourret (Can)
Bellingham (Nzl) v Sridhar (Ind)
Milroy (Canada) v N. Karunaratne (Sri)
Ghaffar (Eng) v Aaron Tan (Sin)
H. Wijaya (Sin) v Moody (Nzl)
Beeharry (Mri) v Anand (Ind)
D. Karunaratne (Sri) v Kendrick Lee (Sin)
Wong CH (Mas) v Dabeka (Can)

adelina76

03-21-2006, 09:59 PM

hcyong

03-21-2006, 10:06 PM

Interesting predictions...My predictions differ slightly in that I think Hendra might beat Moody and Aaron Tan might take out Ghaffar.

We'll see tomorrow. I admit Hendra v John Moody is a close call, but I think Aaron is just too inexperienced against someone like Aamir.

hcyong

03-22-2006, 02:52 AM

hcyong

03-22-2006, 05:44 AM

XD R32 completed

Upset:
Wijaya/Liu (Sin) bt Clark/Kellogg (Eng) 22-20, 21-19

Other Notable matches:
Robertson/Emms (Eng) bt Wong CH/Ooi SA (Mas) easily
James/Edwards (Rsa) bt Smith/Lucas (Aus) minor upset I guess

R16 lineup: (Predicted winners in bold)
Robertson/Emms (Eng) v Cooper/Shirley (Nzl)
Bowman/Miller (Sco) v Molia/Whiteside (Fij)
Saputra/Li (Sin) v Beres/Loker (Can)
Denney/Wilson-Smith (Aus) v Le Tocq/Johnson (Gur)
James/Edwards (Rsa) v Koo/Wong (Mas)
Coupidon/Ah-Wan (Sey) v Wijaya/Liu (Sin)
Archer/Tripp (Eng) v Milroy/Sun (Can)
Susilo/Jiang (Sin) v Shirley/Runesten (Nzl)

Dreamzz

03-22-2006, 06:23 AM

MD - R16 (predicted winners in bold)

MAS - CHAN/KOO vs WAL - HUGHES/LEWIS

SIN - SAPUTRA/SUSILO vs IND - ANAND/DIJU

NZL - BELLINGHAM/COOPER vs FIJ - FONG R/MOLIA B

AUS - BREHAUT/DENNEY vs MRI -BEEHARRY/CLARISSE

FIJ - FONG G/MOLIA F vs WAL - MORGAN/PHILLIPS

MAS - CHOONG/WONG vs CAN - BERES/MILROY

NZL - SHIRLEY/MOODY vs AUS - SMITH/WARFE

TRI - SEEPAUL/PANTIN vs ENG - BLAIR/CLARK

Tie of the day has to be SIN vs IND ....

badMania

03-22-2006, 09:51 AM

WS R32　completed

No upsets. Bellingham got close to beating Susan Hughes. Score was 21-19, 16-21, 21-18. In another match Aparna Popat easily disposed of Julia Wong.

R16 lineup: (Predicted winner in bold)
Hallam (Eng) v Morgan (Wal)
Hindley (Nzl) v Luiz (Aus)
Li Li (Sin) v Popat (Ind) - close call
Reid (Can) v Cann (Eng) - another close call
Murgunde (Ind) v Hughes (Sco)
Liu Fan (Sin) v Rice (Can)
Xing (Sin) v Nehwal (Ind) - match of the day
Pasturel (Jer) v Wong MC (Mas)

If luck is on India's side, they could well have 3 quarter-finalist or none at all by tomorrow. 2 players will face Singaporean players and the match could go either way. I personally have the same prediction with regards to these matches: Li Li will win while Nehwal will continue her impressive form in the Commonwealth Games. She is indeed a very good prospect for Team India. With a good coach and sparring partner, she will be a top 10-20 players in time to come.

badMania

03-22-2006, 09:52 AM

Badmincraze

03-22-2006, 06:53 PM

hcyong

03-22-2006, 08:32 PM

MD R16 completed

Chan/Koo (Mas) bt Hughes/Lewis (Wal) 12, 13
Saputra/Susilo (Sin) bt Anand/Diju (Ind) 14, 8
Bellingham/Cooper (Nzl) bt Fong R/Molia B (Fij) 13, 9
Brehaut/Denney (Aus) bt Beeharry/Clarisse (Mri) 10, 11
Morgan/Phillips (Wal) bt Fong G/Molia F (Fij) 7, 9
Choong/Wong (Mas) bt Beres/Milroy (Can) 19, 20 - tough one
Smith/Moody (Nzl) bt Smith/Warfe (Aus) 15, -19, 19
Blair/Clark (Eng) bt Seepaul/Pantin (Tri) 6, 13

QF lineup: (Predicted winners in bold - all seem one-sided)
Chan/Koo (Mas) v Saputra/Susilo (Sin)
Bellingham/Cooper (Nzl) v Brehaut/Denney (Aus)
Choong/Wong (Mas) v Morgan/Phillips (Wal)
Blair/Clark (Eng) bt Smith/Moody (Nzl)

hcyong

03-22-2006, 08:44 PM

WD R16 completed

Chin/Wong (Mas) bt Bellingham/Hindley (Nzl) 8, 19
Douglas/Wemyss (Sco) bt Pasturel/Burns (Jer) 10, 9
Murgunde/Nehwal (Ind) bt Tripp/Nicholas (Eng) -7, 12, 18
Reid/Nichol (Can) bt Sawaram/Aboobakar (Mri) 7, 12
Gordon/Runesten-Petersen (Nzl) bt Julia Wong/Ooi (Mas) 20, -24, 17
Jiang/Li (Sin) bt Foo/Marquer (Mri) 6, 7
Gutta/Kuriah (Ind) bt Edwards/Harrington (Rsa) 8, 4
Emms/Kellogg (Eng) bt Lucas/Wilson-Smith (Aus) 13, 9

Another win for young Saina. The top half looks open to Chin/Wong. Good fight by young Malaysians Julia/Ooi.

QF lineup: (Predicted winners in bold)
Chin/Wong (Mas) v Douglas/Wemyss (Sco)
Reid/Nichol (Can) v Murgunde/Nehwal (Ind) - tough one to call
Jiang/Li (Sin) v Gordon/Runesten-Petersen (Nzl) - also tough to call
Emms/Kellogg (Eng) v Gutta/Kuriah (Ind)

badMania

03-22-2006, 09:31 PM

hcyong

03-22-2006, 10:22 PM

MS R16 completed

Lee CW (Mas) bt Bourret (Can) 6, 4
Sridhar (Ind) bt Bellingham (Nzl) 10, 10
N. Karunaratne (Sri) bt Milroy (Canada) 13, -14, 10
Ghaffar (Eng) bt Aaron Tan (Sin) 11, 9
H. Wijaya (Sin) bt Moody (Nzl) 15, 9
Anand (Ind) bt Beeharry (Mri) 14, 6
Kendrick Lee (Sin) v D. Karunaratne (Sri) 11, 4
Wong CH (Mas) bt Dabeka (Can) 14, 16

QF lineup: (Predicted winners in bold)
Lee CW (Mas) v Sridhar (Ind)
Ghaffar (Eng) v N. Karunaratne (Sri) - tough one to call
Anand (Ind) v H. Wijaya (Sin)
Wong CH (Mas) v Kendrick Lee (Sin)

event

03-23-2006, 01:32 AM

N. Karunaratne (Sri) bt Milroy (Canada) 13, -14, 10What a performance by world #102 Karunaratne beating World #18 in 3! Too bad for Canada but how many medals is Sri Lanka up for?

madbad

03-23-2006, 01:52 AM

Hallam (Eng) bt Morgan (Wal) - straightforward win
Hindley (Nzl) bt Luiz (Aus) :(
Li Li (Sin) lost to Popat (Ind) - 3 tough games
Reid (Can) lost to Cann (Eng) - Canada chokingl
Murgunde (Ind) lost to Hughes (Sco) - easier than expected
Liu Fan (Sin) bt Rice (Can) - another Canada choke
Xing (Sin) v Nehwal (Ind) - no result yet
Pasturel (Jer) v Wong MC (Mas) - WMC should be on her way

madbad

03-23-2006, 01:53 AM

What a performance by world #102 Karunaratne beating World #18 in 3! Too bad for Canada but how many medals is Sri Lanka up for?

What a choke job by Milroy. That #18 ranking is a mirage. Go Sri Lanka!

abedeng

03-23-2006, 02:30 AM

Wong MC beat Pasturel easily. Nehwal went down to Xing in 3 games.

Wong MC to play Xing tomorrow. Xing could possibly stop Wong MC (especially if her injury bothers her). She has more guts than Li Li, more like Wong MC herself.

hcyong

03-23-2006, 02:32 AM

WS R16　completed

Hallam (Eng) bt Morgan (Wal) 10, 13
Hindley (Nzl) bt Luiz (Aus) 7, 12
Popat (Ind) bt Li Li (Sin) -10, 21, 17 (very close except first game)
Cann (Eng) bt Reid (Can) 16, 12
Hughes (Sco) bt Murgunde (Ind) 17, 9
Liu Fan (Sin) bt Rice (Can) 16, 19
Xing (Sin) bt Nehwal (Ind) -14, 13, 6
Wong MC (Mas) bt Pasturel (Jer) 6, 11

Singapore and India share the spoils.

QF lineup: (Predicted winners in bold)
Hallam (Eng) v Hindley (Nzl)
Popat (Ind) v Cann (Eng)
Liu Fan (Sin) v Hughes (Sco)
Wong MC (Mas) v Xing (Sin) if her back holds

madbad

03-23-2006, 02:39 AM

WS R16?completed

Hallam (Eng) bt Morgan (Wal) 10, 13
Hindley (Nzl) bt Luiz (Aus) 7, 12
Popat (Ind) bt Li Li (Sin) -10, 21, 17 (very close except first game)
Cann (Eng) bt Reid (Can) 16, 12
Hughes (Sco) bt Murgunde (Ind) 17, 9
Liu Fan (Sin) bt Rice (Can) 16, 19
Xing (Sin) bt Nehwal (Ind) -14, 13, 6
Wong MC (Mas) bt Pasturel (Jer) 6, 11

Singapore and India share the spoils.

QF lineup: (Predicted winners in bold)
Hallam (Eng) v Hindley (Nzl)
Popat (Ind) v Cann (Eng)
Liu Fan (Sin) v Hughes (Sco)
Wong MC (Mas) v Xing (Sin) if her back holds

Actually, Elizabeth Cann represents Jersey, not England. The only upset I can see is Xing beating Wong, injury or not.

abedeng

03-23-2006, 02:43 AM

Nehwal must have lost due to experience, when Xing changed tactics, Nehwal cannot respond. Classic problem of newbies.

The same thing happened to Susi Susanti when she was still a teenager playing in Stadium Negara in '88. She was leading Han Aiping one set and at matchpoint in the second (10-5). Yet she managed to lose the set and the match.

hcyong

03-23-2006, 02:44 AM

Actually, Elizabeth Cann represents Jersey, not England. The only upset I can see is Xing beating Wong, injury or not.

Oh! I took it for granted that she represents England.

madbad

03-23-2006, 02:54 AM

Oh! I took it for granted that she represents England.
Well, funnily enough, on the IBF circuit, you'll find she represents England

hcyong

03-23-2006, 02:59 AM

Well, funnily enough, on the IBF circuit, you'll find she represents England

That's because in the Commonwealth Games, you will find they really subdivide into the smallest division. So, you can find Jersey, Isle of Man etc. By itself, Jersey is way to small.

hcyong

03-23-2006, 03:46 AM

XD R16 in progress

Robertson/Emms (Eng) bt Cooper/Shirley (Nzl) 17, 7
Bowman/Miller (Sco) bt Molia/Whiteside (Fij) 10, 11
Saputra/Li (Sin) bt Beres/Loker (Can) 8, 8
Denney/Wilson-Smith (Aus) bt Le Tocq/Johnson (Gur) 5, 9
Koo/Wong (Mas) won first set James/Edwards (Rsa) 10, ?
Wijaya/Liu (Sin) bt Coupidon/Ah-Wan (Sey) 20, 15
Archer/Tripp (Eng) v Milroy/Sun (Can)
Susilo/Jiang (Sin) v Shirley/Runesten (Nzl)

QF lineup: (Predicted winners in bold)
Robertson/Emms (Eng) v Bowman/Miller (Sco)
Saputra/Li (Sin) v Denney/Wilson-Smith (Aus)
?? v Wijaya/Liu (Sin)
?? v ??

Sammy

03-23-2006, 03:53 AM

madbad

03-23-2006, 04:02 AM

Koo/Wong won 21-10,-21-9

Sammy

03-23-2006, 04:07 AM

Koo/Wong won 21-10,-21-9

Koo/Wong (Mas) vs Wijaya/Liu (Sin)
Who do you guys/gals pick?

madbad

03-23-2006, 04:13 AM

Koo/Wong (Mas) vs Wijaya/Liu (Sin)
Who do you guys/gals pick?

I think Wijaya/Liu have played over their heads. Expereince will win out in this case. No problems for Koo/Wong.

tutu_h

03-23-2006, 04:14 AM

Koo/Wong (Mas) vs Wijaya/Liu (Sin)
Who do you guys/gals pick?

Koo/Wong all the way....

madbad

03-23-2006, 04:17 AM

SHIRLEY/RUNESTEN PETERSEN v SUSILO/JIANG 28-26 first set :eek: . Must have had the fans on the edge of their collective seats.

tutu_h

03-23-2006, 04:18 AM

what a close game, hope the sin can create an upset.

tutu_h

03-23-2006, 04:20 AM

another close game bt. Archer/Tripp and Milroy/Sun
1st game ENG 21-CAN 19

madbad

03-23-2006, 04:22 AM

Wow, the underdogs are really taking a bite out of the favourites. Let's hope they can continue to push hard in the 2nd set.

tutu_h

03-23-2006, 04:22 AM

SHIRLEY/RUNESTEN PETERSEN v SUSILO/JIANG 28-26 first set :eek: . Must have had the fans on the edge of their collective seats.

2nd game 21-16 to NZL

madbad

03-23-2006, 04:23 AM

2nd game 21-16 to NZL

Close but no cigar for the Singaporeans

tutu_h

03-23-2006, 04:25 AM

Close but no cigar for the Singaporeans

save the cigar for the malaysian pair. :p :p :p

PS: I don't encourage them to smoke

madbad

03-23-2006, 04:28 AM

save the cigar for the malaysian pair. :p :p :p

PS: I don't encourage them to smoke

They have as good a shot as any of making the final because they don't have Robertson/Emms in their half. After that, I don't care what they smoke :p

madbad

03-23-2006, 04:43 AM

Wow, Milroy/Sun took the second set 25-23 v Archer/Tripp. will they have enough left for the 3rd?

terry

03-23-2006, 04:46 AM

Koo/Wong won 21-10,-21-9

koo/wong?? :confused:

tutu_h

03-23-2006, 04:51 AM

koo/wong?? :confused:

don't get it ?????????????

madbad

03-23-2006, 04:52 AM

don't get it ?????????????
:confused: me neither?????????

terry

03-23-2006, 04:55 AM

Sorry i got misunderstanding..... :)

madbad

03-23-2006, 04:55 AM

Well here's a mild upset. Milroy/Sun has just beaten Archer/Tripp 21-12 in the 3rd set

tutu_h

03-23-2006, 04:56 AM

Well here's a mild upset. Milroy/Sun has just beaten Archer/Tripp 21-12 in the 3rd set

3rd game was fast.:eek:

jamesd20

03-23-2006, 04:58 AM

Wow, Milroy/Sun took the second set 25-23 v Archer/Tripp. will they have enough left for the 3rd?

Will the ENG pair have enough for the third game you mean!

Tripp is 15 weeks pregnant, and archer 31 but looked like 52 he was so stiff at AE.

madbad

03-23-2006, 04:58 AM

3rd game was fast.:eek:

Hopefully they'll have enough gas left in their tank to give the Kiwis a run for their money tomorrow :) . They're the only Canadians left

madbad

03-23-2006, 05:00 AM

Will the ENG pair have enough for the third game you mean!

Tripp is 15 weeks pregnant, and archer 31 but looked like 52 he was so stiff at AE.

Didn't know Tripp was pregnant. Wow:eek: . As for Archer, ya, we all know he looks ancient.

hcyong

03-23-2006, 05:00 AM

XD R16 completed

Robertson/Emms (Eng) bt Cooper/Shirley (Nzl) 17, 7
Bowman/Miller (Sco) bt Molia/Whiteside (Fij) 10, 11
Saputra/Li (Sin) bt Beres/Loker (Can) 8, 8
Denney/Wilson-Smith (Aus) bt Le Tocq/Johnson (Gur) 5, 9
Koo/Wong (Mas) won first set James/Edwards (Rsa) 10, 9
Wijaya/Liu (Sin) bt Coupidon/Ah-Wan (Sey) 20, 15
Milroy/Sun (Can) bt Archer/Tripp (Eng) -19, 23, 12
Shirley/Runesten (Nzl) bt Susilo/Jiang (Sin) 26, 16 (close first game)

QF lineup: (Predicted winners in bold)
Robertson/Emms (Eng) v Bowman/Miller (Sco)
Saputra/Li (Sin) v Denney/Wilson-Smith (Aus)
Koo/Wong (Mas) v Wijaya/Liu (Sin)
Shirley/Runesten-Petersen (Nzl) v Milroy/Sun (Can)

tutu_h

03-23-2006, 05:02 AM

Will the ENG pair have enough for the third game you mean!

Tripp is 15 weeks pregnant, and archer 31 but looked like 52 he was so stiff at AE.

OMG! :eek: she still dares to play despite her pregnancy. hope she can put the baby as first priority. god bless

hcyong

03-23-2006, 05:03 AM

Will the ENG pair have enough for the third game you mean!

Tripp is 15 weeks pregnant, and archer 31 but looked like 52 he was so stiff at AE.

What? Archer is 31 weeks pregnant?

This explains her loss in the WD as well.

madbad

03-23-2006, 05:05 AM

What? Archer is 31 weeks pregnant?

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha:D :D :D :D

tutu_h

03-23-2006, 05:05 AM

What? Archer is 31 weeks pregnant?

This explains her loss in the WD as well.

how can ones play with 31 weeks of pregnancy?
btw. Acher is a man.

byelnats

03-23-2006, 11:24 AM

Exciting games. Go Canada!

ants

03-23-2006, 11:45 AM

I think most likely Msia will face England in the Finals of MXD.

abedeng

03-23-2006, 07:48 PM

XD q-finals:
Robertson Emms bt Bowman/Miller 2-0 (8, 6) - walk in the park
Saputra/Li bt Denney/Wilson-Smith 2-0 (21, 17)
Shirley/Runesten Petersen bt Milroy/Sun 2-0 (20, 11)
Koo/Wong bt Wijaya/Liu 2-1 (-16, 11, 11)

MS Q-finals:-
LCW bt Anup 2-0 (15, 18) - pretty good fight by Anup
Amir Ghaffar bt Niluka 2-0 (19, 19) - Amir having it tough against Sri Lankan guy
Wong CH bt Kendrick Lee 2-0 (17, 20) - tough resistance by Lee, good for S'pore badminton
Chetan Anand bt Hendra Wijaya 2-1 (16, -13, 11)

WS q-finals:-
Wong MC bt Xing 2-0 (10, 8) - Expected better fight from Xing
Elizabeth Cann bt Aparna Popat 2-0 (14, 13) - shocking result!
Tracey Hallam bt Rachel Hindley 2-0 (11, 6)

ants

03-23-2006, 08:14 PM

Good play from WMC... :)

kevin&sandy

03-23-2006, 09:37 PM

MD, qf:

Chan/Koo bt Saputra/Susilo 2-0 (17,17)
Brehaut/Denny bt Bellingham/Cooper 2-1 (-22,16,19)
Choong/Wong bt Morgan/Phillips 2-0 (14,9)
Blair/Clark bt Shirley/Moody 2-0 (11,9)

hcyong

03-23-2006, 10:04 PM

Semifinal predictions:

XD
Robertson/Emms (Eng) v Saputra/Li (Sin) - no doubt
Koo/Wong (Mas) v Shirley/Runesten (Nzl) - expect a fight

MS
Lee CW (Mas) v Ghaffar (Eng) - no doubt
Wong CH (Mas) v Anand (Ind) - expect a fight

WS
Hallam (Eng) v Cann (Jer) - not much doubt
Wong MC (Mas) v Hughes (Sco) - if her back is ok, not a problem

MD
Chan/Koo (Mas) v Brehaut/Denney (Aus) - no doubt
Blair/Clark (Eng) v Choong/Wong (Mas) - almost 50-50 this one

WD
Chin/Wong (Mas) v Murgunde/Nehwal (Ind) - not much doubt
Emms/Kellogg (Eng) v Jiang/Li (Sin) - expect a fight

Li YJ, Emms and Wong PT have 4 doubles matches to play today.
Wong CH has 2 singles and 2 doubles matches today!!!

Quite a few others have 2 or 3 matches today, and this is in the quarterfinal and semifinal stages, where the level is higher.

Saina Nehwal is still alive, but I think the bronze in the mixed team is all she will take home because the other three WD semifinalists are (supposedly) superior.

hcyong

03-23-2006, 10:06 PM

If my predictions come true then the finalists are either Malaysians or English. There is half a chance that the men's events will be all-Malaysian.

taneepak

03-23-2006, 10:07 PM

Li YJ, Emms and Wong PT have 4 doubles matches to play today.
Wong CH has 2 singles and 2 doubles matches today!!!

Quite a few others have 2 or 3 matches today, and this is in the quarterfinal and semifinal stages, where the level is higher.

They should thank their lucky stars that they are playing under the new system.

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 12:42 AM

Wong/Koo just lost in the XD event
21-15, 14-21, 15-21 :crying: :crying: :crying:

madbad

03-24-2006, 12:49 AM

Yesterday I suggested WMC was going to have it tough against Xing. How wrong I was, and I gladly eat my words. Someone pass the ketchup.

madbad

03-24-2006, 12:53 AM

WCH won 1st set 21-11 v Anand

hcyong

03-24-2006, 01:23 AM

Wong/Koo just lost in the XD event
21-15, 14-21, 15-21 :crying: :crying: :crying:

They were not going to win the gold anyway, so no big loss. For me, the big one is the gold. Silver and bronze are better than none, but way down from gold.

abedeng

03-24-2006, 01:25 AM

Yesterday I suggested WMC was going to have it tough against Xing. How wrong I was, and I gladly eat my words. Someone pass the ketchup.

I'll gladly join you in your meal, need to eat mine too, with some chilli sauce.:)

abedeng

03-24-2006, 01:28 AM

Wong/Koo just lost in the XD event
21-15, 14-21, 15-21 :crying: :crying: :crying:

Shirley/Runesten Petersen are not World Championship semifinalists for nothing, you know. The only reason they are not that visible is because they compete in very few tournaments.

abedeng

03-24-2006, 01:28 AM

WCH won 1st set 21-11 v Anand

WCH lost 2nd set 17-21. OMG :eek:

Inky2000

03-24-2006, 01:31 AM

WCH lost 2nd set 17-21. OMG :eek:

This is the 3rd game WCH plays within 10 hours ... he's probably exhausted.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 01:34 AM

Chetan Anand took a game off Wong Choon Hann, but the two games Wong won were comfortable. All-Malaysian final unless Ghaffar can somehow invoke some superhuman powers.

abedeng

03-24-2006, 01:34 AM

Wong MC goes to final, 21-7, 21-18.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 01:35 AM

Shirley/Runesten Petersen are not World Championship semifinalists for nothing, you know. The only reason they are not that visible is because they compete in very few tournaments.

Also, it's much more exciting to be fighting for the bronze with Singapore, than to (almost surely) lost the final to Robertson/Emms.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 01:37 AM

Wong MC goes to final, 21-7, 21-18.

Easier than I thought. I think I tip her for another win against Hallam in the final. She would have a one-day rest in between to soothe her back.

abedeng

03-24-2006, 01:37 AM

Chetan Anand took a game off Wong Choon Hann, but the two games Wong won were comfortable. All-Malaysian final unless Ghaffar can somehow invoke some superhuman powers.

Time for LCW to join his gf in final. Oh, and for Tracey Hallam to set up another explosive final encounter in WS.

Inky2000

03-24-2006, 01:38 AM

Chetan Anand took a game off Wong Choon Hann, but the two games Wong won were comfortable. All-Malaysian final unless Ghaffar can somehow invoke some superhuman powers.

What a relief! But he will be up to play MD semi-final in 2 hours time. Wonder whether his "overplaying" situation will affect his performance. Of course, if there are all-Malaysian affairs for MS & MD finals on tomorrow, then it won't be matter for Malaysian supporters.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 01:41 AM

What a relief! But he will be up to play MD semi-final in 2 hours time. Wonder whether his "overplaying" situation will affect his performance. Of course, if there are all-Malaysian affairs for MS & MD finals on tomorrow, then it won't be matter.

The finals will be the day after tomorrow. For Malaysians, I don't see any problems for Chan/Koo, Lee CW and Chin/Wong to advance to the finals. So, the exciting match will be Choong/Wong against Blair/Clark.

Netasia

03-24-2006, 01:43 AM

who is LCW's gf? WMC? seem like the alphabet W & C is a popular character in Malaysia badminton team. Wong CH, also W & C...

Netasia

03-24-2006, 01:50 AM

LCW won 1st game 21-8

hcyong

03-24-2006, 01:53 AM

LCW won 1st game 21-8

It's three sets in a row now that LCW has beaten Ghaffar 21-8.

SeraphTT

03-24-2006, 02:01 AM

Ash Brehaut and Travis Denney won their QF.

This is awesome for australian badminton though the possibility of a bronze medal won't mean much compared to the bloody race walking or lawn bowls.

Any fellow aussies annoyed at how little badminton has been shown on TV or is it just me?

hcyong

03-24-2006, 02:07 AM

It's three sets in a row now that LCW has beaten Ghaffar 21-8.

21-8, 21-9 Very consistent performance for both LCW and Aamir. Gold for Malaysia in MS.

abedeng

03-24-2006, 02:08 AM

It's three sets in a row now that LCW has beaten Ghaffar 21-8.

Well, at least Ghaffar got it up to 9 in the 2nd set. All-MAS MS final!!!:D

Netasia

03-24-2006, 02:08 AM

21-8, 21-9 Very consistent performance for both LCW and Aamir. Gold for Malaysia in MS.

he improve by 1 point...

Netasia

03-24-2006, 02:08 AM

most likely LCW will win over WCH

abedeng

03-24-2006, 02:09 AM

1 pt is also an improvement. Maybe he'll catch up after 12-13 more matches with LCW.

abedeng

03-24-2006, 02:14 AM

MAS girls win 1st set 21-8.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 02:15 AM

Chin/Wong won first set 21-8 against Murgunde/Nehwal

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 02:16 AM

he improve by 1 point...

wau! i think he should be greatful with 1/21 (almost 5%) improvement.:p :p :p

hcyong

03-24-2006, 02:23 AM

Come on, I think we should stop laughing at Aamir. If I get one point off him, I would be happy.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 02:24 AM

Easy win for Chin/Wong 8, 3

hcyong

03-24-2006, 02:25 AM

4 individual gold for Malaysia? It's a possibility. But 3 gold would be a surer bet.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 02:37 AM

Blair/Clark has the advantage over Choong/Wong because Wong CH has already played 2 singles matches and a doubles match. But Choong TF is a solid player and is able to cause the English lots of trouble.

(I shudder to think what will happen if Wong/Ooi made it to the XD quarterfinals.)

hcyong

03-24-2006, 02:38 AM

Hallam not exactly having an easy time with Cann. She is a game up 21-17.

Inky2000

03-24-2006, 02:49 AM

But Hallam got an easier second set with 21-8.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 02:56 AM

Hallam and Wong prove to be the best two in the Commonwealth. Hopefully, the final will be as exciting as in the mixed team final.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 02:58 AM

Jiang/Li easily won the first set 21-8 against Emms/Kellogg

Inky2000

03-24-2006, 02:59 AM

WD - Jiang/Li took the first set 21-8 over Emms/Kellogg. Surprised?

Inky2000

03-24-2006, 03:10 AM

Jiang Li won the second set 21-14. Respectable opponents for W & C?

hcyong

03-24-2006, 03:15 AM

Jiang/Li are not a bad pair, but Chin/Wong have the upperhand. Emms/Kellogg would have been more dangerous. We shall see on Sunday.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 03:18 AM

Chan/Koo should cruise against Brehaut/Denney. They are a set up 21-11.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 03:25 AM

Chan/Koo won easily.

Now for the crunch match: Clark/Blair v Choong/Wong.

Malaysia has already confirmed one gold medal. Can Choong/Wong confirm another one? Half a chance. Keeping my fingers crossed.

wl2172

03-24-2006, 03:32 AM

I hope Wong/CTF wins, but Wong could be tired from his previous matches. It is up to CTF to work his magic at the front court.

I think at the moment, Malaysia already have presence in 4/5 finals, with the MS being all Malaysian affair :) .

Sammy

03-24-2006, 03:33 AM

Come on, I think we should stop laughing at Aamir. If I get one point off him, I would be happy.

Just dont think he is a player in this league. I strongly believe there are many better players in England. I for sure wont have problem getting one point off him.

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 03:40 AM

Just dont think he is a player in this league. I strongly believe there are many better players in England. I for sure wont have problem getting one point off him.

me too, especially under 21 rally point system. he for sure will make mistakesssssssssss.:p :p :p

Dreamzz

03-24-2006, 03:40 AM

What time does the last MD start? GMT please ... :D

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 03:40 AM

What time does the last MD start? GMT please ... :D

should be in progress now.

Sammy

03-24-2006, 03:42 AM

me too, especially under 21 rally point system. he for sure will make mistakesssssssssss.:p :p :p

Hahaha....cheeky... Even taking a match/game from him wont be that difficult ;)

abedeng

03-24-2006, 03:44 AM

Jiang Li won the second set 21-14. Respectable opponents for W & C?

Very respectable opponents to Wong/Chin, they've been able to match the best SEA pairs from Thailand and Indonesia as well. Even got the upperhand against the Thais in Uber Cup qualifiers.

A hard and interesting matchup is on the cards.:)

hcyong

03-24-2006, 03:45 AM

Choong/Wong won first set quite easily 21-12.

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 03:45 AM

M'sia MD just took the 1st game

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 03:46 AM

Choong/Wong won first set quite easily 21-12.

:mad: :mad: looks like u r faster than me :mad: :mad: . anyway, keep it up Malaysia.:o

hcyong

03-24-2006, 03:49 AM

Just dont think he is a player in this league. I strongly believe there are many better players in England. I for sure wont have problem getting one point off him.

Well, the sad thing for England is that he is the best MS player there. Anyway, we shouldn't laugh at him just because he is not in the same league.

I know we (the Malaysians) are slightly pissed off because he ignored Malaysia's strength in the mixed team, but I think we have thrown enough bad comments about him already.

Dreamzz

03-24-2006, 03:49 AM

haha, actually, a small part of me wants CTF/WCH to lose, because otherwise they won't show the badminton finals on the BBC. I don't have digital TV you see. But only a very small part .... :cool:

hcyong

03-24-2006, 03:50 AM

:mad: :mad: looks like u r faster than me :mad: :mad: . anyway, keep it up Malaysia.:o

Don't be angry. I'll let you be faster next time.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 03:52 AM

haha, actually, a small part of me wants CTF/WCH to lose, because otherwise they won't show the badminton finals on the BBC. I don't have digital TV you see. But only a very small part .... :cool:

Traitor. A small part is still a part :mad:

ps: Just joking ok?

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 03:53 AM

Don't be angry. I'll let you be faster next time.

:p :p :p i can't be faster, i am working still.:D :D :D

wl2172

03-24-2006, 03:54 AM

Hmmm, a little unfair to comment on Aamir Ghaffar on his performance. He did exceed expectations as he is only seeded 7th here.

Also, don't forget he was up against one of the world's very top elite player. Lee CW is head and shoulders above the field here (maybe apart from WCH, but Wong is getting old and playing too many matches), and he hasn't even been pushed passed 4th gear yet as far as I can tell. Anup Sridhar did try to challenge Lee CW for a while, but Lee just upped the tempo by a bit and Anup cracked. If anyone watched the All England semi final between Lee Cw and Lin Dan, I think people would agree that Lee CW is just too strong here, plain and simple.

So I think Aamir was very brave and did try his best (though a bit naive in his comments:)). We can only wish him best of luck from here.

Dreamzz

03-24-2006, 03:54 AM

Traitor. A small part is still a part :mad:

ps: Just joking ok?

hahaha, calm down, it's only the commonwealth games. plus, won't it be more exciting if it weren't an all-malaysian final? WCH might not even play seriously if he has other events to worry about, i'm sure he'll concentrate more on the XD since gold and silver are guaranteed for MS and MD.

Dreamzz

03-24-2006, 03:58 AM

so, what happened to our running commentary?

abedeng

03-24-2006, 03:59 AM

That's it, all-M'sian MD final. 21-11 second set.

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 03:59 AM

Hmmm, a little unfair to comment on Aamir Ghaffar on his performance. He did exceed expectations as he is only seeded 7th here.

Also, don't forget he was up against one of the world's very top elite player. Lee CW is head and shoulders above the field here (maybe apart from WCH, but Wong is getting old and playing too many matches), and he hasn't even been pushed passed 4th gear yet as far as I can tell. Anup Sridhar did try to challenge Lee CW for a while, but Lee just upped the tempo by a bit and Anup cracked. If anyone watched the All England semi final between Lee Cw and Lin Dan, I think people would agree that Lee CW is just too strong here, plain and simple.

So I think Aamir was very brave and did try his best. We can only wish him best of luck from here.

agree, from now on, i will stop commenting on him.
i would also wish him the best if he learned to be more humble. we will wait and see.

hcyong

03-24-2006, 04:00 AM

That's it, all-M'sian MD final. 21-11 second set.

Oh! Tutu will be pissed off. He so wanted to post it first :)

jcl49

03-24-2006, 04:02 AM

Impressive, WCH in both the mens singles and doubles finals!!

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 04:03 AM

That's it, all-M'sian MD final. 21-11 second set.

wau, the result is even better than KKK/CCM despite the Exhaustion

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 04:04 AM

Oh! Tutu will be pissed off. He so wanted to post it first :)

:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

hcyong

03-24-2006, 04:04 AM

Those wily veterans Choong/Wong have a good chance of upsetting Chan/Koo.

abedeng

03-24-2006, 04:04 AM

terry

03-24-2006, 04:10 AM

Yesterday I suggested WMC was going to have it tough against Xing. How wrong I was, and I gladly eat my words. Someone pass the ketchup.

Maybe WMC want to hang her gold medal with LCW gold medal in their future house lol :):D

Dreamzz

03-24-2006, 04:11 AM

Finals
MS - LCW vs WCH (LCW to win)
MD - Chan/Koo vs CTF/WCH (close to call, Koo's frontcourt antics vs Choong's attacking power and experience)
WS - WMC vs Tracey Hallam (close to call, WMC slight advantage if not injured. Tracey with better court skills)
WD - Wong/Chin vs Jiang/Li (Wong/Chin, could be a 3-game hard match or a 2-game very easy one as in last year's SEA games)
XD - Emm/Robertson vs Shirley/Runesten Petersen (close to call, Emms/Robertson has advantage).

i think WCH will be concentrating on the XD, so might not perform to his best in the MS and MD. also, i think emms and robertson are going to walk the gold, they haven't even been pushed at all so far, so whatever score they've conceded in the past is pretty much meaningless. i would say, and i don't normally say this, but WS is going to be very exciting if they play like they played in the mixed team event ...

hcyong

03-24-2006, 04:14 AM

My predictions:

MS
Gold - Lee Chong Wei (very confident)
Silver - Wong Choon Hann
Bronze - Chetan Anand (very confident)

WS
Gold - Wong Mew Choo (51% confidence)
Silver - Tracey Hallam
Bronze - Susan Hughes (60% confidence)

MD
Gold - Chan/Koo (60% confidence)
Silver - Choong/Wong
Bronze - Blair/Clark (very confident)

WD
Gold - Chin/Wong (75% confidence)
Silver - Jiang/Li
Bronze - Emms/Kellogg (very confident)

XD
Gold - Robertson/Emms (very confident)
Silver - Shirley/Runesten-Petersen
Bronze - Koo/Wong (60% confidence)

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 04:17 AM

Maybe WMC want to hang her gold medal with LCW gold medal in their future house lol :):D

to make it complete, their sons and daughters will win the rest of the doubles events (MD, WD, XD).

Sammy

03-24-2006, 04:21 AM

i think WCH will be concentrating on the XD, so might not perform to his best in the MS and MD. also, i think emms and robertson are going to walk the gold, they haven't even been pushed at all so far, so whatever score they've conceded in the past is pretty much meaningless. i would say, and i don't normally say this, but WS is going to be very exciting if they play like they played in the mixed team event ...

Is WCH still in XD? I thougt its KKK/WMC to compete for XD bronze medal

terry

03-24-2006, 04:25 AM

to make it complete, their sons and daughters will win the rest of the doubles events (MD, WD, XD).

Good idea....hope they will think about it :p

Dreamzz

03-24-2006, 04:30 AM

Is WCH still in XD? I thougt its KKK/WMC to compete for XD bronze medal

oh yes, of course, haha, how silly of me. my mistake ...

wl2172

03-24-2006, 04:37 AM

Good idea....hope they will think about it :p

Why not, top badminton players in Malaysia earn a very good living. Lee CW will get about RM80,000 + bonus on top of his basic salary if he takes the MS title, and he also has the mixed team cahs bonus in the bag as well.

Malaysian national players take a basic salary (about RM6000 I think but this may vary) + a percentile bonus which is calculated based on their current world ranking each month. So if you stay among the top 15 in the world, you are guaranteed to have a huge monthly salary. I won't be surprised if you are among the top 5, you will be raking in more than 10K a month.

So, the monetary breakdown is such as far as I know:
1. Basic pay (fixed),
2. Bonus percentile based on current world rankings,
3. Cash incentives for winning prestigious tournaments,
4. All players keep 100% of prize winnings,
5. Guaranteed RM3500 a month after retirement until death.

No wonder Lee CW looks so relaxed, all he needs to do is play the game he loves and win for the country :)

P.S. Business class flights for all overseas tournaments as well lol.

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 04:38 AM

Is WCH still in XD? I thougt its KKK/WMC to compete for XD bronze medal

its kkk/wpt not wmc

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 04:41 AM

Why not, top badminton players in Malaysia earn a very good living. Lee CW will get about RM80,000 + bonus on top of his basic salary if he takes the MS title, and he also has the mixed team cahs bonus in the bag as well.

Malaysian national players take a basic salary (about RM6000 I think but this may vary) + a percentile bonus which is calculated based on their current world ranking each month. So if you stay among the top 15 in the world, you are guaranteed to have a huge monthly salary. I won't be surprised if you are among the top 5, you will be raking in more than 10K a month.

So, the monetary breakdown is such as far as I know:
1. Basic pay (fixed),
2. Bonus percentile based on current world rankings,
3. Cash incentives for winning tournaments,
4. All players keep 100% of prize winnings,
5. Guaranteed RM3500 a month after retirement until death.

No wonder Lee CW looks so relaxed, all he needs to do is play the game he loves and win for the country :)

4. the coach and club will take certain % of it.

wl2172

03-24-2006, 04:45 AM

4. the coach and club will take certain % of it.

That's not what I heard, but even if it is, the % is not much, player still keeps more than 80% I think. Besides, the coach gets loads of money already. Morten Frost and Park Joo Bong were reported to be having RM30000 per month or something like that

Dreamzz

03-24-2006, 05:05 AM

damn it, should have joined the academy at a younger age!

Sammy

03-24-2006, 05:17 AM

damn it, should have joined the academy at a younger age!

One can earn more by being a professional football player in Europe and dont have to be a top rated player (eg: Ronaldinho, Beckham, Zidane, Owen & etc) to do that :)

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 05:28 AM

That's not what I heard, but even if it is, the % is not much, player still keeps more than 80% I think. Besides, the coach gets loads of money already. Morten Frost and Park Joo Bong were reported to be having RM30000 per month or something like that

ppl closed to the Chinese National team told me that the coach and the Club take 40% of the price money leaving only 60% for the Player.

whether it is true or not, this remains unclear.

wl2172

03-24-2006, 05:45 AM

One can earn more by being a professional football player in Europe and dont have to be a top rated player (eg: Ronaldinho, Beckham, Zidane, Owen & etc) to do that :)

In terms of badminton, I dont think any other nation are paying their players like that, not even China. Malaysian players are very fortunate. Lets not compare apples with oranges :)

wl2172

03-24-2006, 05:46 AM

ppl closed to the Chinese National team told me that the coach and the Club take 40% of the price money leaving only 60% for the Player.

whether it is true or not, this remains unclear.

I wasn't referring to the Chinese Team lol, i was talking about Malaysian National players. As far as I know, Malaysia players get to keep all their prize winnings.

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 05:48 AM

I wasn't referring to the Chinese Team lol, i was talking about Malaysian National players. As far as I know, they keep all their prize winnings.

if this is the case, then we r fortunate.
i always tot that it is the same everywhere in the world.

abedeng

03-24-2006, 06:14 AM

if this is the case, then we r fortunate.
i always tot that it is the same everywhere in the world.

That's becos BAM has other funding/sponsorship sources and complete support from Malaysian Govt. Funding of their Chinese/Indonesian counterparts may be different.

Actually, I sometimes feel that the players are too pampered. It was worse in the early 90s, esp. after we won Thomas Cup, the players were basically millionaires. None of them stayed as millionaires now, some having opened up businesses that failed.

Having said that, without pampering players too much, China is mass-producing world class players in many disciplines. Eg. in CG table tennis, many Chinese players turn up for different countries.

Dreamzz

03-24-2006, 06:18 AM

One can earn more by being a professional football player in Europe and dont have to be a top rated player (eg: Ronaldinho, Beckham, Zidane, Owen & etc) to do that :)

yup, no doubt.
becks is on what, £120k a week?
so, if LCW earns RM20k a month (including winnings), that'll mean he'll need to play for 3 1/2 years to make just as much.
plus, becks earns much more in advertising than his basic salary, so it's just unfair!

Dreamzz

03-24-2006, 06:21 AM

That's becos BAM has other funding/sponsorship sources and complete support from Malaysian Govt. Funding of their Chinese/Indonesian counterparts may be different.

Actually, I sometimes feel that the players are too pampered. It was worse in the early 90s, esp. after we won Thomas Cup, the players were basically millionaires. None of them stayed as millionaires now, some having opened up businesses that failed.

Having said that, without pampering players too much, China is mass-producing world class players in many disciplines. Eg. in CG table tennis, many Chinese players turn up for different countries.

again, a major factor has to be the pool of people that they have to choose from. 1.2bn citizens, even if only 1% play the sport, that's 12m people, which is half malaysia's population.

tutu_h

03-24-2006, 06:30 AM

again, a major factor has to be the pool of people that they have to choose from. 1.2bn citizens, even if only 1% play the sport, that's 12m people, which is half malaysia's population.

that also explains y their coaches and Clubs can claim so much of money from the players.

for us is players market
for them is Coach/club market (so to say)

"if u don't want to take the job, we have plenty more to choose" is what they r practicing.

ants

03-24-2006, 07:45 AM

Big payday for the Msian players. :) All of them will sleep smiling.

wl2172

03-24-2006, 08:15 AM

yup, no doubt.
becks is on what, £120k a week?
so, if LCW earns RM20k a month (including winnings), that'll mean he'll need to play for 3 1/2 years to make just as much.
plus, becks earns much more in advertising than his basic salary, so it's just unfair!

This sort of pay just makes me sick, it is not as if Lee CW trains less harder. In fact, I won't be surprised if Lee is 3 times more hard working than Becks to keep up his precision-play condition :crying: .

mcchooi

03-24-2006, 11:44 AM

it's all about demand. beckham is watched by billions all over the world whereas LCW by significantly less viewers...

alloh

03-24-2006, 12:10 PM

people gamble on football.... but do you see any gamble on badminton?
That makes football stars rich!

madbad

03-24-2006, 12:58 PM

Getting back on topic. I was occupied last night so missed following the action. I think MAS will sweep all the golds, with the only threat being Hallam of ENG. If her first encounter with WMC is anything to go by, that'll be the match of the evening. WMC, on the other hand, has proven to be quite resilient despite her bad back. The day off will do her a world of good. I feel for WCH as he's probably exhausted from his QF & SF matches. Says a lot about his fitness at his age to get through to both finals. Alas, he starts both as a prohibitive underdog and it would be a shame if he did not return home with a gold medal. Anyone knows if MAS management plays team orders? Looking forward to all the finals.

ants

03-24-2006, 02:08 PM

The Msian Team will not have any team orders. Once both team are fighting for GOLD... you are on your own. May the best player/s win.

madbad

03-24-2006, 02:31 PM

The Msian Team will not have any team orders. Once both team are fighting for GOLD... you are on your own. May the best player/s win.

I'm glad to hear that. Makes it much better for the paying public too. Good luck to all the finalists.

badcliq

03-24-2006, 08:31 PM

women doubles for m'sia might not win...s'pore team looks strong..the gals looks like from china!

madbad

03-24-2006, 09:49 PM

women doubles for m'sia might not win...s'pore team looks strong..the gals looks like from china!

Looks like? They are from China (!).

It'll be close because the MAS girls always make it interesting by allowing their opponents to keep up. But in the end, I think the MAS pair will prevail

tze yang

03-24-2006, 09:50 PM

Guys its more for the love of the sport...
I basically play for the love of it more than anything else in the world, that explains why i still play badminton competitively despite crashing out in first rounds in every tournament i play in...lol...im not exagerating...i am that bad, but what to do?i love it way too much to quit it...money doesnt drive me on in badminton

Btw i'd like to add, if players have their own sponsor, they ussually get another stash of bonus from there, i think yonex pay big players bout RM50k for a 5 star win...and korea is reportedly being the biggest takers from their players, bout 70% then indon 50%(which explains taufik's unhappiness) and then China 30-40% and m'sia 0...and i think denmark should be 0 too...

Inky2000

03-24-2006, 09:52 PM

women doubles for m'sia might not win...s'pore team looks strong..the gals looks like from china!

They ARE from China, albeit second- or third-rated ones by China's standard. Singapore imported such Chinese players at their teen-age (some of them were from provincial sports schools) and groomed them as national players. Still, their achievements couldn't match their table tennis counterparts like Li Jiawei and Zhang Xueling (who followed a similar path to become Singapore players). Their teammate Li Li's Gold Medal at CWG'02 has been the only high note so far (but she then lost to WMC at Southeast Asian Games WS final). We shouldn't write off Jiang/Li's chance but don't overestimate them either. I guess the only way they could win is that Wong/Chin aren't their usual self.

Sammy

03-24-2006, 11:13 PM

women doubles for m'sia might not win...s'pore team looks strong..the gals looks like from china!

They ARE "made" in China and imported to Singapore. Need those imported players to win medals (else medals are very hard to come) like what we did in table tennis.

Sammy

03-24-2006, 11:20 PM

if this is the case, then we r fortunate.
i always tot that it is the same everywhere in the world.

Thats why we call "Professional" player. I think in term of pay BAM is doing a great job. Encourage youngster to involve in badminton and let them know their future are "secure" if they can make it to the national/international level. In today's society not many people would like to involve "full time" with full commitment in a sport that dont have some kind of "secure" future financial.

Sammy

03-24-2006, 11:27 PM

This sort of pay just makes me sick, it is not as if Lee CW trains less harder. In fact, I won't be surprised if Lee is 3 times more hard working than Becks to keep up his precision-play condition :crying: .

That's the fact of life that we have to learn to deal with it. Global popularity is very important even in sport. Football is the so called the most popular game in the whole world bringing millions of broadcasting rights, sponsor rights, expensive tickets, clubs souvenior/products and etc. That bring in money. The key word is POPULARITY. If badminton can over take football to become the most popular game in the world Im very sure badminton players gonna make as much money as the football players if not better no matter which country the players come from.

Inky2000

03-25-2006, 02:31 AM

That's the fact of life that we have to learn to deal with it. Global popularity is very important even in sport. Football is the so called the most popular game in the whole world bringing millions of broadcasting rights, sponsor rights, expensive tickets, clubs souvenior/products and etc. That bring in money. The key word is POPULARITY. If badminton can over take football to become the most popular game in the world Im very sure badminton players gonna make as much money as the football players if not better no matter which country the players come from.

Absolutely! One's so-called "value" doesn't depend on how hardworking (s)he is, but how much money that one could generate. That's the way capitalism is.

Back to the competition ... Koo/Wong lost the 1st set 14-21 to Singaporeans in XD bronze-medal final.

madbad

03-25-2006, 02:50 AM

Koo/Wong won 2nd game 23-21

Inky2000

03-25-2006, 02:50 AM

Koo/Wong won the second set 23-21.

badcliq

03-25-2006, 02:53 AM

Based on what i see yesterday, i dun think the m'sian pair stands a chance..i mean the mixed double...unless Koo steps up and be more pro active...just so passive yesterday in the loss...

maybe preserving energy for the doubles match later in the day yesterday...hmm

xijiayu

03-25-2006, 02:59 AM

I am worried about Msian WD in the final. WPT made a lot of errors today and LYJ was playing better technically. KKK was out of form today and committed so many errors too. Msia need to work hard for WD tomorrow.

Inky2000

03-25-2006, 03:08 AM

It's over for Malaysian XD! Lost tamely in the 3rd set - 6-21.

badcliq

03-25-2006, 03:29 AM

kinda expected already

twdc08

03-25-2006, 07:38 AM

very disappointed....hope m`sia`s players do ur best tomorrow and get the gold medal...

tutu_h

03-25-2006, 06:12 PM

WMC just lost 1st game to Tracey. come on Wong.

where r the malaysia supporters?

tuanminhvn

03-25-2006, 06:22 PM

England won the gold in the final.2 straight sets.what a terriffic performance from Tracey.Well done England!!!

tutu_h

03-25-2006, 06:25 PM

congrats. to Tracey
pay my tribute to WMC on her fighting spirit despite her back injury.

terry

03-25-2006, 06:30 PM

Tracey won Gold Medal already.

dlp

03-25-2006, 06:49 PM

More annoying umpiring in the WD final! Players may need a drink / towel/ court mop when playing a final in australia!

xijiayu

03-25-2006, 07:32 PM

Just watched the WS replay in BBC. Poor WMC! today was not her day. LiMao was not happy and even refused to give advice during 2nd games interval.

Inky2000

03-25-2006, 08:03 PM

Chin/Wong won the Gold Medal already! 21-17, 21-19

That means the Malaysian contigent has reached its gold medal target of 7.

Inky2000

03-25-2006, 08:40 PM

Chin/Wong won the Gold Medal already! 21-17, 21-19

That means the Malaysian contigent has reached its gold medal target of 7.

Watching the RTM replay of the game. Jiang/Li is still young and it's certainly a pair to watch ... may break into world top-10 in 2 years' time.

x50926x

03-25-2006, 09:21 PM

Watching the RTM replay of the game. Jiang/Li is still young and it's certainly a pair to watch ... may break into world top-10 in 2 years' time.

They already broke into the World's Top 10..:p

alloh

03-25-2006, 09:54 PM

Malaysia is the Champion of Badminton event.
Winning 4 gold medals totally.

Syabas Malaysia ~!

Inky2000

03-25-2006, 10:26 PM

Malaysia is the Champion of Badminton event.
Winning 4 gold medals totally.

Syabas Malaysia ~!

Of course ... as the overall standard of the Badminton event of CWG is even lower than Southeast Asian Games (the latter have Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and Singapore).

byelnats

03-26-2006, 04:57 AM

Yeah, if Malaysia did not dominate this CWG, they have to start thingking of practicing harder. But well, they should celebrate now. This year Thomas and Uber Cup will be exciting.

abedeng

03-26-2006, 04:58 AM

Of course ... as the overall standard of the Badminton event of CWG is even lower than Southeast Asian Games (the latter have Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and Singapore).

Quite true, but gold is still gold. Even the table tennis field is not as strong as Asian Games, but no one is making fun of Singapore dominating the women's competition.

The important thing is to meet or exceed targets, given the strength of the opposition. Malaysia in general did not meet all their targets, but the badminton squad did. Still, we lost women's singles gold, too bad but we accept that the better player won.