View Full Version : New scoring system - for amateur players


Ian Davies
03-29-2006, 04:32 AM
All,

Out of interest, this week the crowd from work that I play badminton with decided to try and use the new points system.

We play once a week for about 1 1/2 hrs. and we all treat it as a bit of fun outside of the office.

Bearing in mind that out of the four of us that played, we ranged in abilites from moderate-low to high-intermediate, and swapped/rotated partners after every game.

In all we had mixed results. On the plus side most games went to setting (i.e. 20-20 so 2 clear points needed), however on some of the others the non-serving partner didn't get a serve in for the whole game due to a combination of unforced errors or regaining the bird from the opponents serve.

Has anybody else tried using the new scoring system in a social manner ?

CWB001
03-29-2006, 07:48 AM
All,


In all we had mixed results. On the plus side most games went to setting (i.e. 20-20 so 2 clear points needed), however on some of the others the non-serving partner didn't get a serve in for the whole game due to a combination of unforced errors or regaining the bird from the opponents serve.


In that case you weren't doing it properly. The partners essentially take turns to serve because of the way changing of sides happens. Partners changes sides whenever they win a point.

Hagane
03-29-2006, 08:05 AM
Did it on the last BC CommonWealth Games (Melbourne) get together.

Unless you lose in a shut out, everyone will get a hand in the serve.

It can get confusing, but it's not difficult to keep track.

Ian Davies
03-29-2006, 09:23 AM
In that case you weren't doing it properly. The partners essentially take turns to serve because of the way changing of sides happens. Partners changes sides whenever they win a point.

I'll have to try and watch that then :D

But it could happen in you never win a point on your own serve ?

Hagane
03-29-2006, 09:49 AM
But it could happen in you never win a point on your own serve ?

Nope,

As you never move until you win on your serve, you will get a service. See below

A B Vs C D

0-0
B (Right) start serves, fault, B stays on right
0-1
C (Left) serves, fault, C stays on Left
1-1
A (Left) serves, fault, A stays on Left
1-2
D (right), serves, fault, D stays on right.

Ian Davies
03-30-2006, 03:50 AM
Nope,

As you never move until you win on your serve, you will get a service. See below

A B Vs C D

0-0
B (Right) start serves, fault, B stays on right
0-1
C (Left) serves, fault, C stays on Left
1-1
A (Left) serves, fault, A stays on Left
1-2
D (right), serves, fault, D stays on right.

Ahhhhh - I think I've got it.

So even if you win the point on serve it'll follow the same sequence, so that once the first server has moved to the left hand court, when the service comes round to us again it'll go to the other guy now in the right ?

I'll try and make a visual of what i'm thinking.

['.' represents service]

C D 0-0
A .B B starts serve - faults

C. D 1-0
A B C faults on serve.

C D 1-1
.A B A wins serve

C D 2-1
B .A A faults on serve

C .D 2-2
B A D wins serve

.D C 3-2
B A D faults

D C 3-3
.B A etc... :confused:

david14700
03-30-2006, 07:39 AM
Sorry, I thought the rule was that the serve always starts from the right hand side? So whichever player is in that position serves. If you win, he then serves from the left hand box.

If you lose, the opponents start serving from their right hand side.

Are you saying that the box from which you start serving switches, so the first time you (win back) serve, you start from the right, then after how many points and your opponents get the serve, and then you get it back, you start from the left hand box?

CWB001
03-30-2006, 11:44 AM
Sorry, I thought the rule was that the serve always starts from the right hand side? So whichever player is in that position serves. If you win, he then serves from the left hand box.

If you lose, the opponents start serving from their right hand side.

Are you saying that the box from which you start serving switches, so the first time you (win back) serve, you start from the right, then after how many points and your opponents get the serve, and then you get it back, you start from the left hand box?

It becomes rather like the existing situationfor singles from that point of view. If uou have an even score as your side comes in the player on the right serves and vice versa if odd.

Hagane
03-30-2006, 08:14 PM
Are you saying that the box from which you start serving switches, so the first time you (win back) serve, you start from the right, then after how many points and your opponents get the serve, and then you get it back, you start from the left hand box?

You serve according to your points.
Even = serve from the right
Odd = serve from the left

Like playing singles, however, you don't change sides unless you have won a point. It can be confusing at first, but once you play it, it's not too bad.

Tsumaranai
04-01-2006, 03:49 PM
Ok, to plainly explain it, you generally start the serve on the right. In doubles, you figure out who serves first, and the partner on the right, serves it diagonally to the person on the other team, on the right side. Then, if the serving team gets a fault, then the person on the right, on the opponent's team serves it. They get a point, then they switch sides, like what was stated (even=right odd=left). If the opponent's team gets a fault, then the partner serves it, and then if they get a fault, the shuttle goes back to the initial serving team, and the shuttle starts at the right again. No, if you're on the serving team, you're partner does not get the shuttle if you get a fault. This is because it is the "first inning", where the normal rotation doesn't occur yet. This only applies to the first inning, the first service. Then the partner serves start up.

I hope that made it somewhat more clearer. And you do not get points for the other team's faults. You only get points if it's your serve.

wirre
04-01-2006, 05:22 PM
I hope that made it somewhat more clearer. And you do not get points for the other team's faults. You only get points if it's your serve.

Wrong scoringsystem.......the topic is about the *new* runningscore system.
So your "explanation" doesn't do any good.

/mats

Tsumaranai
04-01-2006, 05:44 PM
Oh, nvm then....