Stringing Set Up.

[Quasimodo]

Since Dink's kindly posted his set up on this post: http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=364150&postcount=3, anyone else want to post pictures of their machines and set up? :)

[malayali]

will do it as soon as I reach home;

[malayali]

My baby Ti-10 goes under the "knife" !!!
String is Yonex BG80

[Quasimodo]

Thanks, malayali. If you don't mind mine asking, is it just me or is the tool tray set a bit low? Is that intentional?

Also, since the machine's sitting on carpet, have you had any issues with it tipping over?

Thanks again for sharing your set up. Anyone else? :)

[Alexccs]

Hi Quasimodo, Please, post a pic of the tension head with the scale.

[fishmilk]

http://i2.tinypic.com/vhf8r6.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/vhf8tk.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/vhf8xv.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/vhf91x.jpg

[malayali]

he he; i never thought about the tray being too low; I dont know why its sitting too low but surely its not intentional; :)
If you notice the picture one of the legs is longer than the other three & that actually brings the stability to the machine standing up.



Thanks, malayali. If you don't mind mine asking, is it just me or is the tool tray set a bit low? Is that intentional?

Also, since the machine's sitting on carpet, have you had any issues with it tipping over?

Thanks again for sharing your set up. Anyone else? :)

[Quasimodo]

Fishmilk, thank you very much. I've always wanted to see how badminton racquets fit on a Laserfibre/Stringway mounting system. So, the racquet fits on top of the rollerguides? I guess that makes sense because they're too big to fit in between holes as they do with tennis racquets. I thought they provide a different set of rollers for badminton. Do you feel that the mounting system gives you adequate support during stringing?

Thanks again. Keep it coming everyone, please. :)

[jerby]

malayali, what kdin fo free-stringing is that? how in gods name do you do that?

[malayali]

ha ha ha; actually i use the same method Dan uses.
I prestring all my rackets which saves me a lot of time (except for the Yonex AT800's & Nanos).


malayali, what kdin fo free-stringing is that? how in gods name do you do that?

[jerby]

yes I saw teh resemblance, but i just can't figrue out hwo to start such a weaving. and then tensioning it...

[malayali]

Prestring the whole racket but leaving enough in the middle 2 mains just enough for start tensioning .
& Then I start from the middle main once I am done tensioning the mains, i cut the string that starts the crosses.
I start the crosses from the top of the racket head & finish tying off the final forth knot at the bottom of the head.
I'll try to attach some pictures of the whole process.


yes I saw teh resemblance, but i just can't figrue out hwo to start such a weaving. and then tensioning it...

[fishmilk]

Fishmilk, thank you very much. I've always wanted to see how badminton racquets fit on a Laserfibre/Stringway mounting system. So, the racquet fits on top of the rollerguides? I guess that makes sense because they're too big to fit in between holes as they do with tennis racquets. I thought they provide a different set of rollers for badminton. Do you feel that the mounting system gives you adequate support during stringing?

Thanks again. Keep it coming everyone, please. :)

The rollers are smaller for badminton, so it's a good fit. They have different ones for tennis.

The mounting system is adequate except that since everything is palstic, there isn't enough traction to stop the racquet from moving when being pulled. This can be fixed with the help of some supergrap in the right places (thanks to Pete_LSD for the tip)

[Pete LSD]

I see where the problem is. The T bars aren't doing any work in pressing against the throat area of the frame!!!

[Pete LSD]

BTW, your tensioning unit is from the TT model without the switch.

[Pete LSD]

The upgrade involves getting an extra head plate to replace the throat plate. The original throat plate works well for tennis and squash racquets but not badminton.

[Pete LSD]

You might also consider upgrading to the double-action fixed clamps in the future.

check out www.stringway.com/en/index.htm

[Pete LSD]

I was told from Stringway that badminton fixed clamps are available but Laserfibre didn't tell me. It's essentially the same fixed clamps for tennis minus the two outer teeth.

[fishmilk]

Yeah I want to get my head and throat plates replaced as well. My headplate only has 2 supports, and my throat is the cheaper one.

I think flying clamps are much faster for badminton though... although I'm considering getting fixed ones for tennis and it'd also be useful for newer racquets where the last few main strings are really hard for a flying clamp to string.

[Quasimodo]

Pete, can you post some pictures of your set up, especially with a racquet mounted on it?

Anyone else? Anyone with a Sensor Expert, Technifibre or ES5Pro. :)

[LazyBuddy]

I was told from Stringway that badminton fixed clamps are available but Laserfibre didn't tell me. It's essentially the same fixed clamps for tennis minus the two outer teeth.

The teeth look very big. How can they fit when there's small caps in between strings, namely, the corner area at the very top and bottom of crosses? :rolleyes:

[Pete LSD]

I will at a later time. Maybe when LB is here!!! LB, please bring your digital camera along :D. Mine sucks in the resolution department.

For Babolat Sensor, we can go to Tad and ask Gary to borrow his machine when he is not busy stringing (I doubt he isn't busy most of the time).


Pete, can you post some pictures of your set up, especially with a racquet mounted on it?

Anyone else? Anyone with a Sensor Expert, Technifibre or ES5Pro. :)

[Pete LSD]

The tennis fixed clamps don't fit well at all. I use Yonex and Gamma flying clamps for every cross string.


The teeth look very big. How can they fit when there's small caps in between strings, namely, the corner area at the very top and bottom of crosses? :rolleyes:

[fishmilk]

They can hold the stirng fine, but they're just so chunky they get in the way. It's useful though, when doing the mains, and you have to clamp the 9th and 12th main string.

[orfel]

malayali,

what EAGNAS machine model is that ?

[malayali]

http://www.eagnas.com/flash930.html#6004
Flash 930


malayali,
what EAGNAS machine model is that ?

[zasboy]

Hi,

This is my ATS Super Stringer 2. It currently has the following:
- dropweight(10lb to 90lb)
- 2pt mounting
- 2 badminton clamps, 2 tennis clamps
- 4 different spacers
- Basic tools(awl, pliers, wire cutter, etc)
- Lazybuddy Starting Pin <---Favorite :cool:

Top View:
http://gallery.danpham.net/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2422&g2_serialNumber=1

Posts with Spacers:
http://gallery.danpham.net/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2426&g2_serialNumber=1

Racket Mounted:
http://gallery.danpham.net/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2428&g2_serialNumber=1

Offtopic: Tennis Rackets
http://gallery.danpham.net/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2416&g2_serialNumber=1

-Thanks for looking

[silentheart]

Very nice setup. One question, as you can see from the picture "racquet mounted" the tide off hole is blocked by the plate. How do you tide the last knot?

[zasboy]

Good question. If I'm starting the crosses, I would use an anchor knot to start the process. This knot can be slid down easily onto the grommet with the top plate on. When I am finished with the crosses and need to tie the last string off with a double half-hitch knot, I slightly remove the top plate and turn it 90 degrees and re-tighten. According to the engineer at ATS, he said that if the racket is completely strung and cannot loose tension, it would be fine removing the top plate because the next step would be removing the racket once it's finished.

[LazyBuddy]

Good setup. Maybe also keep a nail cutter handy (but keep away from strings), it works much better than razor blade or wire cutter. ;)

[wlum]

http://www.eagnas.com/flash930.html#6004
Flash 930

Hi Malayali,

I just purchased a Flash 930. Was wondering if the badminton racquet being strung rests flatly on all four K brackets and on the black pads on the head and throat. Seems on my machine, if the rackets lays on the K brackets, it doesn't touch the black pads -- it is maybe 3/8" too high..

Thanks,

Wayne

[malayali]

Sorry,
didnt see the post until now...
On my machine, racket head rests perfectly on the black pads and the k brackets; I will take some pictures and post it soon.....


Hi Malayali,

I just purchased a Flash 930. Was wondering if the badminton racquet being strung rests flatly on all four K brackets and on the black pads on the head and throat. Seems on my machine, if the rackets lays on the K brackets, it doesn't touch the black pads -- it is maybe 3/8" too high..

Thanks,

Wayne

[wlum]

Sorry,
didnt see the post until now...
On my machine, racket head rests perfectly on the black pads and the k brackets; I will take some pictures and post it soon.....

Hi Malayali -- Thanks for responding. Here's a couple of views of what my "problem" is. When the racket is placed on the K brackets -- it doesn't touch the head/throat black pads. Is it supposed to?

When Eagnas states suspension mounting system and 10 point support -- do they mean side and bottom support for the 4 K brackets (8 total) and then side support for the head/throat (2 total) for 10 points?

I'm wondering if there is some adjustment to make the black pads higher. As a work around, I might find something to place on the black pads so the head and throat touch and rest on it...

Thanks,

Wayne

[malayali]

It is not supposed to touch the black pads; It is supposed to be slightly higher and thats fine; You have to be very careful to give extra padding at the head to avoid "high-noon" disease.
That is correct(10 point system)
As far as I know there is no way to make the black pads higher;
But then again, the 'key" to give lots of padding at the 12 O' clock position.


Hi Malayali -- Thanks for responding. Here's a couple of views of what my "problem" is. When the racket is placed on the K brackets -- it doesn't touch the head/throat black pads. Is it supposed to?

When Eagnas states suspension mounting system and 10 point support -- do they mean side and bottom support for the 4 K brackets (8 total) and then side support for the head/throat (2 total) for 10 points?

I'm wondering if there is some adjustment to make the black pads higher. As a work around, I might find something to place on the black pads so the head and throat touch and rest on it...

Thanks,

Wayne

[Neil Nicholls]

When the racket is placed on the K brackets
Do you have some interchangeable coverings for the K supports ?

Yours are set up for tennis, so the bottom part of the K can make it harder to clamp near the frame.

This is the sort of thing you are looking for

[wlum]

Hi Malayali,

I'm not sure how good this stringing machine is for badminton if the racket doesn't touch the black pads at the head/throat. Since the Flash 930 seems to be built more for tennis, the side K brackets meet too close to the middle of the badminton racket (rather than the shoulder), and of course, there is NO adjustment. Without bottom support at the head/throat, and the lack of "shoulder" support, I'm sure the badminton racket will "flex" under tension if the Flash 930 isn't modified.

I guess the easiest is to add additional padding to the black pads. It would also be nice to drill new holes in the side support arms to move the k brackets closer to the shoulder. If you look at the Flash 960 -- there is an extra hole to move the k bracket closer to the shoulder, but not on our Flash 930's :(

I havn't strung a racket yet on the Flash 930 yet, but will let you know how it went...

Thanks,

Wayne




It is not supposed to touch the black pads; It is supposed to be slightly higher and thats fine; You have to be very careful to give extra padding at the head to avoid "high-noon" disease.
That is correct(10 point system)
As far as I know there is no way to make the black pads higher;
But then again, the 'key" to give lots of padding at the 12 O' clock position.

[wlum]

Hi Neil,

As far as I know, Eagnas doesn't have interchangeable coverings for the K bracket -- wish they had :) I'll look around some more.

What machine is that pictured in your post?

Thanks,

Wayne


Do you have some interchangeable coverings for the K supports ?

Yours are set up for tennis, so the bottom part of the K can make it harder to clamp near the frame.

This is the sort of thing you are looking for

[Pete LSD]

It's a Gamma drop weight.


Hi Neil,

As far as I know, Eagnas doesn't have interchangeable coverings for the K bracket -- wish they had :) I'll look around some more.

What machine is that pictured in your post?

Thanks,

Wayne

[Neil Nicholls]

Gamma Progression II 602
http://www.atssports.com/tennis.cfm?prodid=267

[jerby]

partially homemade, it used to be a ferry force (http://www.coacheric.nl/cms/uploads/images/ferry_force_600.gif) huge dropweight, blocking sidesupport, mountingplates right beneath the racket, slow-ass-gripper, no clamps

now it's this:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9986/dsc00561ic0.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00561ic0.jpg)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6232/dsc00562mp6.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00562mp6.jpg)
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1417/dsc00563kd0.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00563kd0.jpg)
tensionrange up to 18kgs, free suspension, supports not blocking anymore (done with shrinksleeve btw)

[Pete LSD]

Master Jerby's rig is out of this world! :D

[fishmilk]

It's extremely neat! Good work!

[jerby]

thanks, it was a lot of work...but my dad's a handy man ;)

actually, all the home-made stuff works great, the bought stuff a little less (I need to back up my fixed clamps, and the gripper needs a peice of cardboard)

works like a charm though :D

[fishmilk]

So where did you end up getting the clamps and rail?

[jerby]

So where did you end up getting the clamps and rail?
I got a package deal for the clamps/rails/linear gripper at www.powertennis.nl

it's the dutch retailer for pro's pro, and I'm contemplating getting some good fixed clamps...Either they slip, or crush the string (no breakage at those points yet, but it looks nasty at the start)
and I'm constantly re-adjusting them because the adjustment screw slowely back out the clamp...

[fishmilk]

Ohh I see. So they're pretty much Eagnas clamps. Yes I'm in the market for some good badminton clamps myself. I really like the rounded ones that Eangas copied from Babolat, but I've heard enough consistently bad stories to keep me away. I can't seem to find any information on where to obtain genuine Babolat ones or the price (I'm sure it'll be a hefty one).