china will send a big team, 20 players, to play in indonesia open 2006, including lin dan and chenjin :D [the news has been confirmed, u can find it at http://www.kompas.com print edition]

"Hingga Selasa, sekitar 96 pebulu tangkis dari 17 negara telah memastikan diri mengikuti Djarum Indonesia Open 2006, dengan empat atlet dari India yang terakhir memasukkan nama atlet mereka. China yang diperkuat tunggal putra terkuat Lin Dan menjadi kontingen terbesar dengan 20 pemain, diikuti Taiwan dengan 18 pemain." (www.kompas.com)

Hmm... Then it will be worth to be watched... I hope The indonesians will perform better and the youngster given opportunity to play...

china will send a big team, 20 players, to play in indonesia open 2006, including lin dan and chenjin :D [the news has been confirmed, u can find it at http://www.kompas.com print edition]

Maybe,LD is eager to realize his ambition being Indo-Open'06 winner (especially he want to defeat TH in his homeground). So far, LD never win this IO-title. But I'm not sure TH will participate in IO this year because his injured is not yet recovery. Hope TH will be back healthy soon!

I think that's good news for the rest of competition, i'm sure the organizer is quite happy..As i remember last yr., CHN's team didn't make it to IO(maybe Surabaya is a preferred city for the CHN team than Jakarta??)...In a way, it's a sign that CHN will be waiting, in return for their participation, for the INA team to show up later for the China Open..

I think that's good news for the rest of competition, i'm sure the organizer is quite happy..As i remember last yr., CHN's team didn't make it to IO(maybe Surabaya is a preferred city for the CHN team than Jakarta??)...In a way, it's a sign that CHN will be waiting, in return for their participation, for the INA team to show up later for the China Open..

It is perfect time for China to come to Ina while TH is injured. By sending its full team, Ina will have no reason later not to send its best shuttlers to China. However, it is unfortunate for TH, I don't think that he will participate in Ina open as he is now concentrating on his recovery process to ensure that he will be able to participate in the WC in Madrid to defend his title.

TH has promised LD that if he really want to "defeat" him, the ideal event is in the upcoming WC. " Let's see if he can grab the champion belt from me then" TH said.

I guess this upcoming INA open will serve as a good opportunity for young Indonesian shuttlers to test their ability.

Personally, I think it is not necessary for TH to force himself to participate in Ina open if his condition is not good. ANyway, he has won 5 times.

This Ina open will certainly belong to LD, LCW and LHI.

i think simos santoso will go further :), he has improved enough

i think simos santoso will go further :), he has improved enough

Yes It is time for Simon and Sony, ALven/Luluk, Markis/Hendra and other potential players to "show their fangs" at home ground. This will be a good opportunity for them to test not only their technical skills but also mental strengths as China, Mal, Korea and hopefully Denmark will send their elite players. We should thank them for sending their best shuttlers to Ina open. Ina should respond this positively by sending its best players to international events later.

Ina should also send its young players such as Tommy SUgiarto etc.

Yes It is time for Simon and Sony, ALven/Luluk, Markis/Hendra and other potential players to "show their fangs" at home ground. This will be a good opportunity for them to test not only their technical skills but also mental strengths as China, Mal, Korea and hopefully Denmark will send their elite players. We should thank them for sending their best shuttlers to Ina open. Ina should respond this positively by sending its best players to international events later.

Ina should also send its young players such as Tommy SUgiarto etc.

the champions of 'ADU SMASH' should participate in ina open 2006 :D

the champions of 'ADU SMASH' should participate in ina open 2006 :D
I think they will... The champions of MD are from Surabaya if I'm not mistaken... Not sure about the MS champion, but i think he's from East Java too... His dialect is very East Javanese:D ...

to do this, LYB feels confidence enough that china will NOT be get embarassed.:p

I think that's good news for the rest of competition, i'm sure the organizer is quite happy..As i remember last yr., CHN's team didn't make it to IO(maybe Surabaya is a preferred city for the CHN team than Jakarta??)...In a way, it's a sign that CHN will be waiting, in return for their participation, for the INA team to show up later for the China Open..

That I know, CHN's team absent in IO last year because clashed with China's National Games schedule (or PON in INA). Surabaya or 'Hero City' is one of INA's main city which citing in Java island. The organizer replace its venue from Jkt to Sby because some reason. I hear an info about GBK Senayan-Jkt still in renovation to give new-image--representative and world-class sport complex. Another reason maybe Jakarta's citizen is more exciting to watch 'Indonesian Idol' (franchising from singing-contest 'American Idol') than going to stadium to see badminton tourney...(who knows??)

That I know, CHN's team absent in IO last year because clashed with China's National Games schedule (or PON in INA). Surabaya or 'Hero City' is one of INA's main city which citing in Java island. The organizer replace its venue from Jkt to Sby because some reason. I hear an info about GBK Senayan-Jkt still in renovation to give new-image--representative and world-class sport complex. Another reason maybe Jakarta's citizen is more exciting to watch 'Indonesian Idol' (franchising from singing-contest 'American Idol') than going to stadium to see badminton tourney...(who knows??)

not becos of indonesian idol, but ABG (Ajang band gelo ) tpi :D

Yeah!!! :D It will be a interesting IO this year. Hope Lin Dan and Fu/Cai perform well and win!!! Jia You Jia You Jia You Jia You!!! :) :p :cool: :D ;)

That I know, CHN's team absent in IO last year because clashed with China's National Games schedule (or PON in INA). Surabaya or 'Hero City' is one of INA's main city which citing in Java island. The organizer replace its venue from Jkt to Sby because some reason. I hear an info about GBK Senayan-Jkt still in renovation to give new-image--representative and world-class sport complex. Another reason maybe Jakarta's citizen is more exciting to watch 'Indonesian Idol' (franchising from singing-contest 'American Idol') than going to stadium to see badminton tourney...(who knows??)
i know abt the former reason you mentioned why CHN's team skipped last yr's IO. I also know the city's nickname "Hero City"(Kota Pahlawan).;) But don't know/not sure of your latter reason for having it held in Sby instead of Jkt(ie. having Indonesian Idol as a more exciting event?!?!) ...:rolleyes:

arrrghhhhhhh

i hope i can go there.. i was so excited when i heard it's gonna be in jkt but noooooooooooooooo... :(

Latest news...LD will not be participating, BCL will play instead

Latest news...LD will not be participating, BCL will play instead

Exactly, the last info that I read in KCM (KOMPAS CyberMedia) today corfirmed CHN's Bdm Association will send BCL to repalce LD (I guess there must be serious reason that world #1 skip 6*grade tourney -- highest grade among another South-east Asia GP-series). No certain reason from that CHN's e-mail why this replacement happened.Actually,several days ago when the organizer received copy of passport from CHN's team, the weird of this case was appeared (No LD's name in copy of passport instead BCL including in it).Anyway, I don't think so CHN will crown MS title in IO-06 because LCW also will join in this event. And as we know, LCW's performance is upper than BCL (who never win any bdm tourney except Junior WChamp-2000 --> what a pity?!). Still waiting the drawing for possible meet in IO MS-final: LCW vs Sony or Simon... (Come on INA,create the reviving!)

Exactly, the last info that I read in KCM (KOMPAS CyberMedia) today corfirmed CHN's Bdm Association will send BCL to repalce LD (I guess there must be serious reason that world #1 skip 6*grade tourney -- highest grade among another South-east Asia GP-series). No certain reason from that CHN's e-mail why this replacement happened.Actually,several days ago when the organizer received copy of passport from CHN's team, the weird of this case was appeared (No LD's name in copy of passport instead BCL including in it).Anyway, I don't think so CHN will crown MS title in IO-06 because LCW also will join in this event. And as we know, LCW's performance is upper than BCL (who never win any bdm tourney except Junior WChamp-2000 --> what a pity?!). Still waiting the drawing for possible meet in IO MS-final: LCW vs Sony or Simon... (Come on INA,create the reviving!)

how about chen jin ?

how about chen jin ?

It's not clear yet because KCM didn't mention CJ in CHN's MS squad name who will play in IO-06. But KCM wrote that BCL is the only one MS who included in CHN's Thomas Team member will participate in Surabaya.

Exactly, the last info that I read in KCM (KOMPAS CyberMedia) today corfirmed CHN's Bdm Association will send BCL to repalce LD (I guess there must be serious reason that world #1 skip 6*grade tourney -- highest grade among another South-east Asia GP-series). No certain reason from that CHN's e-mail why this replacement happened.Actually,several days ago when the organizer received copy of passport from CHN's team, the weird of this case was appeared (No LD's name in copy of passport instead BCL including in it).Anyway, I don't think so CHN will crown MS title in IO-06 because LCW also will join in this event. And as we know, LCW's performance is upper than BCL (who never win any bdm tourney except Junior WChamp-2000 --> what a pity?!). Still waiting the drawing for possible meet in IO MS-final: LCW vs Sony or Simon... (Come on INA,create the reviving!)

I think the reason why they send BCL instead of LD in this tournament is to raised BCL's world ranking... He's down to #6 after his injury in German Open and All England, and he wasn't able to compete in China Masters... If he's not competing in Indo Open, his position in the world rankings will be dropped again... At least by reaching QF or SF in a 6* tournament, a player could gain more points than 4* or 5* tournaments:D ... Maybe by sending BCL (and maybe Chen Jin too) China are able to send 4 MS players to World Championship in Madrid... LD is already world #1, Bao #6, Chen Hong #7, Chen Jin #8... However, Li Yongbo is a really ambitious man, he would be very happy to send 4 MS to WC 2006:cool: ...

LD is already world #1, Bao #6, Chen Hong #7, Chen Jin #8... However, Li Yongbo is a really ambitious man, he would be very happy to send 4 MS to WC 2006:cool: ...

sony, taufik and simon must get into top ten :D

I don't know what you guys think, I have this strange feeling the chinese team doesn't really like coming to Indonesia depite the IO being a 6* tournament. They never go all out...or maybe I am just imaging things. But I agree, this is a good chance for Sony, Simon and others like Tommy Sugiarto and Pia Zebadiah to shine. Of course, for Pia, there is Wang Lin to deal with...

Good news from Indo open, the comitee said that Candra and Tony are definitely gonna join the tournament... The only things that isn't definite is their country... It could be all USA or mixed between USA-Indonesia (why not Indonesia-Indonesia?)... The list will be given by IBF tomorrow and draw will be on 16th...

If LD and CJ didnot enter this tourney, BCL had the best chance ever to win a title since Denmark 2001.

BCL always lost to his teammates in SF or F in the past year tournament. The biggest hurdles will be the stong LCW.

It will be a very good final if BCL can meet LCW in final.

If LD and CJ didnot enter this tourney, BCL had the best chance ever to win a title since Denmark 2001.

BCL always lost to his teammates in SF or F in the past year tournament. The biggest hurdles will be the stong LCW.

It will be a very good final if BCL can meet LCW in final.

The ideal final of IO 2006 is Chen Jin vs Simon:)

And the winner is SImon:D . The peak for BCL and LCW has passed....
It is time for SImon to go up.....

I guess without TH and LD participating in this year IO, the prestige has declined and it's just like a 4* tourney....If BCL, LCW or LHI fail to qualify to the final, I guess, it is too much

China are able to send 4 MS players to World Championship in Madrid... LD is already world #1, Bao #6, Chen Hong #7, Chen Jin #8... However, Li Yongbo is a really ambitious man, he would be very happy to send 4 MS to WC 2006:cool: ...

Absolutely,LYB never wants 'the nightmare in '90's' repeatedly again (the period that CHN's MS squad was very lacking of achievements--they didn't 'talk' too much in AE-WorldChamp-OG even annual GP-series).Remember, CHN needs 14 years to bring-back the 'TC' to Beijing so no wonder LYB to send many many young shuttlers in a tourney because he wants to keep regeneration in bdm to be continuing.

The peak for BCL and LCW has passed....

What makes you say that, esp with LCW? What's your evidence?

What makes you say that, esp with LCW? What's your evidence?

BCL and LCW are good players but they lack a mentality of a champion:D .

They often lost in major and important tournaments in which top players participate:D. I guess as long as LD and TH are still playing, I guess, it is hard for them to rise. Worse, BCL's era is almost over... he has been playing for a long time...but never won major tournaments.

BCL and LCW are good players but they lack a mentality of a champion:D .

They often lost in major and important tournaments in which top players participate:D. I guess as long as LD and TH are still playing, I guess, it is hard for them to rise. Worse, BCL's era is almost over... he has been playing for a long time...but never won major tournaments.

It is true that Bao hasn't won any major tournaments for quite a while, but it is still a little harsh to say that his time is over. There is a reason why he is ranked no. 6 in the world (with a tournament to go) and LCW is world no. 2, this is because not only are they good, they are consistently good, even more consistent than TH!

It is true that Bao hasn't won any major tournaments for quite a while, but it is still a little harsh to say that his time is over. There is a reason why he is ranked no. 6 in the world (with a tournament to go) and LCW is world no. 2, this is because not only are they good, they are consistently good, even more consistent than TH!

Yes, I agree with you. I am sure BCL can go further.
For LCW, I think this is just the start and he is truly a potential player.

I think Bao is one of the most consistent player in the world... He always manage to reach SF and Final (before his injury this year), but he always failed to be the champion... Based on his performance in TC, i'm pretty sure he's better mentally now... LCW? He's #2 in the world, and he will be the world #1 if he become IO champion if i'm not mistaken... He's really a good player...

I think the reason why they send BCL instead of LD in this tournament is to raised BCL's world ranking... He's down to #6 after his injury in German Open and All England, and he wasn't able to compete in China Masters... If he's not competing in Indo Open, his position in the world rankings will be dropped again... At least by reaching QF or SF in a 6* tournament, a player could gain more points than 4* or 5* tournaments:D ... Maybe by sending BCL (and maybe Chen Jin too) China are able to send 4 MS players to World Championship in Madrid... LD is already world #1, Bao #6, Chen Hong #7, Chen Jin #8... However, Li Yongbo is a really ambitious man, he would be very happy to send 4 MS to WC 2006:cool: ...

Understand that the qualifying criteria for WC is based on the ranking as at 25-May-2006

I think Bao is one of the most consistent player in the world... He always manage to reach SF and Final (before his injury this year), but he always failed to be the champion... Based on his performance in TC, i'm pretty sure he's better mentally now... LCW? He's #2 in the world, and he will be the world #1 if he become IO champion if i'm not mistaken... He's really a good player...

No I think BAO's era will come to an end soon!!! He is always good at Group Competition, not individual....

LCW...he might come out as a winner at this year IO...but it does not indicate his true quality....LD, TH, CH, PG are not in...

I guess...grand prix series such as INA, Mal, SIng, etc Open are only training sessions for world players...the real test for all world individual players are WC and Olympics....

LCW...he might come out as a winner at this year IO...but it does not indicate his true quality....LD, TH, CH, PG are not in...
Unless the news is not accurate, according to a recent news (see post #10 in this link http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33087), Taufik will come and play in IO. Since it mentioned Mulyo Handoyo will resign after the Indonesian Open, it means that, if for no other reason, most likely Taufik will participate and play. Mulyo also said that "Taufik has recovered from his injury"....how fully recovered, who knows.. :p :rolleyes:

Check this out... I found it in www.bolanews.com (http://www.bolanews.com)

“Koh Mulyo sudah bilang ke saya dia akan mundur. Kariernya sebagai pelatih bisa lebih panjang dari karier saya. Sebagai pemain, waktu saya tinggal sebentar lagi. Saya sudah dapat puncaknya, sekarang saya tinggal mempertahankan. Pokoknya tenang saja deh, saya masih berlatih di Cipayung, masih ikut Indonesia Terbuka. Saya juga tahu akan melakukan apa. Lagipula tidak selamanya saya di bulutangkis,” papar suami Amy Gumelar itu tenang.

I don't know if the news is right, but just imagine Taufik in Indonesia Open... This will be a better competition for sure...

Check this out... I found it in www.bolanews.com (http://www.bolanews.com)

“Koh Mulyo sudah bilang ke saya dia akan mundur. Kariernya sebagai pelatih bisa lebih panjang dari karier saya. Sebagai pemain, waktu saya tinggal sebentar lagi. Saya sudah dapat puncaknya, sekarang saya tinggal mempertahankan. Pokoknya tenang saja deh, saya masih berlatih di Cipayung, masih ikut Indonesia Terbuka. Saya juga tahu akan melakukan apa. Lagipula tidak selamanya saya di bulutangkis,” papar suami Amy Gumelar itu tenang.

I don't know if the news is right, but just imagine Taufik in Indonesia Open... This will be a better competition for sure...

taufik is 'ikhlas' to let mulyo go :D

tong shi fu shoud be his next coach

According to JawaPos website, it's still uncertainty about LD's attendance to compete in IO-06. The secretary of IO-organizer said the chance is 70% that LD will play or not depends on his last condition after TC, meanwhile his team-mates BCL is not substitute player to replace him (at the former news) but BCL is lately to register.So far, the participants in IO-06 are totally 386 shuttlers from 25 countries.Almost top-players will crowding Surabaya including defending champ' Korea's LHI and HK's Wang Chen ; Denmark's KJ - PG (still waiting confirmation) and Malaysia's LCW. INA as host country will show their best with full-team (senior + junior) lead by Olympic and World Champion 'the unlimited' TH. Anyway,it's very exciting to wait if LD absent in this 6* tourney and LCW win IO-06 then we see the 'new world #1' in MS (LCW will dump LD to 2nd rank) so very risky for LD if he cancel his trip in IO-06 referring his effort to retain his top-notch world rank.

tong shi fu shoud be his next coach.IS it true??

LCW...he might come out as a winner at this year IO...but it does not indicate his true quality....LD, TH, CH, PG are not in...

I guess...grand prix series such as INA, Mal, SIng, etc Open are only training sessions for world players...the real test for all world individual players are WC and Olympics....

Come on, folks, it is meaningless to talk about 'true quality'. We all know the world rankings don't exactly mean what they mean. They just mean certain excellent players attend more tournaments than other excellent players. If TH plays more tournaments fully fit, he would probably be in the top 3. Same for BCL as well. Although personally I would prefer one Olympic Gold than one hundred Grand Prix victories, the Grand Prix events still mean something and I think it is a little harsh to just call them 'training sessions'. They are still opportunities for players to go out there and do something for their countries.

Come on, folks, it is meaningless to talk about 'true quality'. We all know the world rankings don't exactly mean what they mean. They just mean certain excellent players attend more tournaments than other excellent players. If TH plays more tournaments fully fit, he would probably be in the top 3. Same for BCL as well. Although personally I would prefer one Olympic Gold than one hundred Grand Prix victories, the Grand Prix events still mean something and I think it is a little harsh to just call them 'training sessions'. They are still opportunities for players to go out there and do something for their countries.

it's so sad, there's no china ms who won olympic gold

china ms almost got one , don jiong lost to paul eric hoyer in olympic 1996 :D

it's so sad, there's no china ms who won olympic gold

china ms almost got one , don jiong lost to paul eric hoyer in olympic 1996 :D

The time will come :) two years left before Olympics 2008. Surely the ms winner will be a chinese, although I would much prefer another Indonesian. :p

it's so sad, there's no china ms who won olympic gold

china ms almost got one , don jiong lost to paul eric hoyer in olympic 1996 :D

In Sydney 2000, Ji Xinpeng won the gold after beating our countryman, Hendrawan, remember?

In Sydney 2000, Ji Xinpeng won the gold after beating our countryman, Hendrawan, remember?

And he beat TH as well...:mad:

In Sydney 2000, Ji Xinpeng won the gold after beating our countryman, Hendrawan, remember?

yess... i forgot :)

the sinken star , ji xinpeng