kuan beng hong to train under li mao

[yling]

so, do you all think he can be another lee chong wei? :D

Quoted from the star 2006/05/24

Shuttler told to leave Misbun and train under Li Mao

KUALA LUMPUR: Following his uninspiring performances at the Thomas Cup Finals, men’s singles back-up shuttler Kuan Beng Hong has been removed from the guidance of national coach Misbun Sidek.

The Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) coaching and training committee met at the Stadium Juara in Bukit Kiara yesterday to conduct a post-mortem on the Finals in Japan, and decided that the 23-year-old Beng Hong be placed under Chinese coach Li Mao.

Beng Hong played at third singles for Malaysia in the semi-finals tie against Denmark but froze when it mattered most. With his defeat to Joachim Persson then, Malaysia lost the tie 2-3.

Besides Beng Hong, it was also decided that two men’s singles players under Rashid Sidek’s Project 2010-12 would be put under the charge of Li Mao.

The names of the two juniors will be decided after a meeting with Li Mao, who is only expected to return from a short break in China on Saturday.

The promotion of the juniors into the national team is expected to add more depth in the men’s singles – especially with the temporary vacancy created by veteran Wong Choong Hann, who needs six months to recover from a snapped tendon rupture suffered during the Finals.

The other players currently training under the Chinese coach are world number two Lee Chong Wei, Yeoh Kay Bin, Lee Tsuen Seng, K. Yogendran and James Chua. Except for Chong Wei, the performances of all the others have stagnated.

The decision yesterday was seen as a big blow to Misbun’s credibility as a coach. He now only has Mohd Hafiz Hashim under his care until this year’s Asian Games in Doha from Dec 1-15.

But Misbun has been given permission to train Hafiz at the Kelana Jaya Hall – as he had done over the last few years.

Misbun has coached Beng Hong and Hafiz since March last year. While Hafiz had won three Open titles last year – Swiss, Thailand and Dutch, Beng Hong has not improved much.

Hafiz, however, also came under fire for his inconsistent performances during the Finals recently. In the semi-finals, he played well to beat Kenneth Jonassen in the first game but ran out of steam in the next two.

BAM president Datuk Nadzmi Mohd Salleh, who is also the chairman of the coaching and training committee, said the decision to leave Misbun with only one player was the best.

“Nusa Mahsuri’s Misbun and Hafiz are part of the AsiaComm programme and, as such, they are still part of BAM’s plan. We have decided that Hafiz should continue training under Misbun until the Asian Games,” said Nadzmi.

“But we have decided to put Beng Hong under Li Mao’s charge. We would like Beng Hong to be exposed to Li Mao’s coaching style.”

When asked whether the decision showed a lack of confidence in Misbun’s coaching style, Nadzmi said: “This is also what Misbun wanted. Sometimes, changes are needed so that we can come out with better outcome. There is room for us to make the changes now and we are doing it.”

“There should be no question of lack of sparring partners for Hafiz although he trains at a separate venue. He trains with Roslin (Hashim). There are also joint sparring sessions with those based at Kiara.

“On top of that, our chief coach (Yap Kim Hock) monitors Misbun’s programme for Hafiz. We also have a conditioning expert for Hafiz.”

On the semi-final defeat at the Thomas Cup Finals, Nadzmi said: “We are happy that Malaysia reached their semi-finals target at the Finals in Japan. We could have gone all the way to the final if not for Choong Hann’s injury.”

“That unfortunate incident put the team off balance. But we agreed that there is still room for improvement. We still need to work on all areas – coaching, training and managing – to help put Malaysian badminton on the right track,” he added.

The players will now turn their attention to the World Championships from Sept 18-24 in Madrid and the Asian Games.

[lilly_88]

I hope he'll shine in the upcoming tournaments and I really hope he'll be as good as Chong Wei!

[nelsonkong]

yup, i read this in the newspaper today...XD..erm...i hope he will improve under Li Mao training..

But i think chong wei is just talented. XD

[riz-nie]

i also read in the newspaper today.....hope that kbh can improved himself..

[blue_apple]

i also read it...finally he is going 2 train under li mao...no more misbun ><

[Loh]

Perhaps the last chance for him to show his worth. If he is really committed and ambitious, he should do very well and this change will do him a lot of good. I look forward to seeing a new man in him! :D

[Bbn]

I dont think Misbun is a bad coach, but I think he has limited resources and technology to be able to keep up with the high tech of China or Denmark.

I think most coaches from China or Denmark eg.Frost can really

innovate and move with the times as evident in recent Thomas Cup,
they really knew how to prepare their players physically for the 21 point system.

[Loh]

The other players currently training under the Chinese coach are world number two Lee Chong Wei, Yeoh Kay Bin, Lee Tsuen Seng, K. Yogendran and James Chua. Except for Chong Wei, the performances of all the others have stagnated.

Remember Li Mao also has other young players under his charge. According to the report, they have not shown much improvement as they have stagnated.

So what differentiates Chong Wei from others? Will Beng Hong be able to benefit just like LCW or will he stagnate like others?

[elwin81]

KBH.......don't let us down.
Good luck.

[kokcheng]

It's very difficult to predict how KBH is going to fare under Li Mao.Nevertheless it is a right decision to take.Who knows,Limao may develop his potential.Wish him all the best. Hope to see his true capabilities soon.

[munyoke]

Yeah wish him all the best too... i hope that he will bring us good news soon...

[hara^kazuko]

i really hope hashim n kuan beng hong shines one day... n be another lee chong wei...

[Josh²]

I think KBH will do great under Li Mao... I have great confidence in him there. (I hope... *gulp*)

[Josh²]

But I can rest assure 98% that Hafiz Hashim will not shine anymore... His time has passed I believe. Sad to say. And just let time tell the prediction.

[jas1121]

i hope James Chua and Kuen beng Hong can make big breakthrough in thier upcoming opens. And it would be nice to see them Kuen Beng Hong beating top players under Li mao's training. As for James chua, i hope he can make a comeback after his injury.

[siaoching]

I really hope that KBH will show some improvement under the coaching of Li Mao. :)
Actually, the project had a bit problem. How come a Malaysia team practice separately and only meet once a week????:confused: There's more benefits if they train together, somemore they are team!!!

[Josh²]

Yikes!! James Chua? Is he in HELP college?? :eek:
*gulp* I might meet him in the Malaysian Association of Private Colleges (Mapco) tournament soon. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

[Josh²]

well, it's Misbun Sidek's idea which I strongly disagree base on alot alot of reasons!! grrr....

[Loh]

With the addition of Kuan Beng Hong under his wing, Li Mao now has six senior men singles to look after, seven, if you include the injured WCH. Is the big number one of the reasons why apart from LCW, the other trainees have not improved as much? How will KBH fit in? Can Li Mao give adequate attention to all his trainees? But surprisingly, even with only two trainees, Misbun was unable to uplift KBH's game to his full potential.

[jug8man]

a very good point Loh. Perhaps more players should be put under Misbun's charge. How can a national coach only coach 1 or 2 player???

Very strange situation

[fukusami16]

Remember Li Mao also has other young players under his charge. According to the report, they have not shown much improvement as they have stagnated.

Li Mao,He focus more on LEe chong wei.Its true.But u think its a good news for Kuan beng hong to train under Li mao..Hope that Li mao will develop his skills and smashing and importantly his stamina .....

[jug8man]

I don't think there's anything wrong with KBH's physical conditioning (stamina).

[chibe_K]

Just Li Mao himself cannot make magic, BAM needs to bring in other world class coaches. Not only players need to compete, coaches need to compete among themselves to show results also !

[fukusami16]

yeah..Actually Li Mao has gave his best to his players especially Lee chong wei..Look at him..He has improved from last year...ANd look at yeoh kay bin,eventhoguh he lost to lindan in the 2nd round in the china masters last year ,but he gave lin dan a tough match...

[Phydhel]

do not look look down on misbun's training, LCW once said that from misbun he boosted his fitness level and from Li Mao his hardcore attacking play, these with the hardcore "semangat" (or spirit) exploding from LCW, a very determined and hardworking player.

[munyoke]

Just hope that Li Mao really can do his best and train KBH to become the next LCW la...

[fukusami16]

Hopefully but Kuan beng hong crashed in the philippines open.

[munyoke]

Just look and see how KBH perform this time... hehe..

[lilly_88]

YEAH! KBH crashed. :crying:



On Thursday, the 23-year-old Beng Hong's challenge ended prematurely in the US$120,000 Philippines Open when he crashed out 17-21, 22-20, 22-20 to top Vietnamese shuttler Nguyen Tien Minh in the third round of the four-star tournament in Manila.

[chibe_K]

KBH, another overly rated player.....should leave him on the bench.

[Josh²]

Wong Mei Choo got all her injuries from training under Misbun. Food for thought.* Yes he pushes her and pushes LCW that's why LCW's stamina boosted but for WMC? She just K.O.ed on his training. He's still using ''old fashion training'' and really heavy stuff that's why players like WMC got all of her injuries from his training. And lots more reasons... *sigh*

[riz-nie]

hey....misbun is not that bad..he's a good coach too...you know.

[chibe_K]

hey....misbun is not that bad..he's a good coach too...you know.

No doubt Misbun is a good coach, but he no longer produces results because he is not as good as other good coaches from China, Denmark, Indonesia, ..etc.
Giving Misbun a life time recognition award for his contribution to BAM for the last 20 years and make him a legendary figure...YES.
Letting his boys and girls play in 4 stars tournaments......YES.
Letting his boys and girls play in 6 stars tournaments.......Strongly NO.

[munyoke]

So u guys think who will be better to train the Malaysia players???

[fukusami16]

Some foreign coaches..But we must thanks to phang cheh chang ...I mean he trained the malaysia doubles to have a srtong foundation/base b4 rexy took over for coaching now...

[ants]

Misbun is there for a reason.. we also cannot downplay him. I do agree he has his limitation.. but it is not our right to criticise him that way.

[Loh]

You can have the world's best coach and yet cannot deliver when it counted most!

Remember Misbun has produced Hafiz (and Roslin, I might add) who lifted the All-England trophy after such a long, dry spell for Malaysia! But thereafter, Hafiz went down the tubes rather quickly and his roller-coaster-like form is of no consolation to BAM. Although he is now slowly picking himself up, like helping Malaysia to win the SEA Games and Commonwealth Games team titles and now the 4* Philippines Open title, he was unable to lift his game in the Thomas Cup semifinals, when it counted most, against Denmark to give Malaysia a chance to challenge China in the Final. More is expected of his calibre and pedigree!

So, who is to blame for a player's poor performance despite all the training?

Please don't blame the coach, blame yourself!

I would put it largely on the shoulders of the player himself!

His poor work attitude, his lack of commitment, his lack of desire, passion and ambition to be the best, his contentment in remaining in the comfort zone, his disregard for looking after his body and allowing himself to risk injury, his lack of discipline, etc. The list can go on and on. But in the end, he blames not himself but his coach for not making him a champion!

So what good does it make to change his coach when he can't even change himself? :D

[asriwn]

Wong Mei Choo got all her injuries from training under Misbun. Food for thought.* Yes he pushes her and pushes LCW that's why LCW's stamina boosted but for WMC? She just K.O.ed on his training. He's still using ''old fashion training'' and really heavy stuff that's why players like WMC got all of her injuries from his training. And lots more reasons... *sigh*


If you want to know, China badminton training is mentioned more about weight training to strenghten the leg of their player and to boost the stamina. This method were using for long time ago like when Yang-Yang, Zhou Jianhua and other best China player.Its why the Chinese player were play more attacking game because of this training method.So, why this old fashion traing still work for the Chinese player? The answer is badminton player need a good stamina like Misbun do.He more know what he doing then you. So if the player got the injured in traing, it shows that the player stamina and strenghten is still not good.

[Josh²]

Yes but the sad thing is, everything has a limit. But pushing the players beyond their limit until unnessesary injury occur is not needed. Yes, ppl like LCW benefited from it but for WMC, she can't take it and injuries occur. I mean, being a coach should know what's best for different players I think. Anyway, my bad... Shouldn't talk bad about him in such public area for the whole world to hear. :(

[Loh]

Whatever negatives you may say of KBH, he has improved. Two years ago, our Kendrick Lee beat KBH at Singapore's Satellite Championships, I think. But compare Kendrick with KBH now, Kendrick is lagging behind and has some way to catch up. Both players must re-examine themselves and try to find out what is lacking. If the mind is not focussed and refused to entertain change (perhaps to one's attitude towards training, discipline, winning, etc) then it will be of no use. Then any breakthrough will be difficult. :(

[fukusami16]

AIks i mean Now is under Li mao guidence,,,Shld be better and improve himself.

[X Ball]

Whatever negatives you may say of KBH, he has improved. Two years ago, our Kendrick Lee beat KBH at Singapore's Satellite Championships, I think. But compare Kendrick with KBH now, Kendrick is lagging behind and has some way to catch up. Both players must re-examine themselves and try to find out what is lacking. If the mind is not focussed and refused to entertain change (perhaps to one's attitude towards training, discipline, winning, etc) then it will be of no use. Then any breakthrough will be difficult. :(

In KBH's case, he needs exposure, exposure, exposure. He needs to play as many tournaments as possible. He must not be sent to the 6th star ones because he would crash out in the first or second round which means he does not get exposure. He should be sent to Taiwan, Swiss, Indian, and those kind of easy tournaments so that he progresses through with exposure as well as mustering confidence. If I recall correctly, LCW went thru the 'juvenile' circuit before winning the big ones. So maybe we are all judging KBH too fast. I think this year, he will improve.

[riz-nie]

i read in newspaper that kuan bh is going to replace wch in the world championship...

[chibe_K]

Actually, this guy is not as bad as I thought after watching his match in TC2006 semi-finals against Denmark. He has elegant moves, killing smash, and tricky shots. But he lacks the fighting spirit and he lacks the confidence.

[Malaysianfan]

Actually, this guy is not as bad as I thought after watching his match in TC2006 semi-finals against Denmark. He has elegant moves, killing smash, and tricky shots. But he lacks the fighting spirit and he lacks the confidence.

IMOP, his smashes aren't sharp and not the killing one. This is basically the problem of malaysian players. Lin Dan and Taufik can kill the shuttle off when they smash.

[chibe_K]

IMOP, his smashes aren't sharp and not the killing one. This is basically the problem of malaysian players. Lin Dan and Taufik can kill the shuttle off when they smash.

I agree one of the weaknesses that Mal singles have is top players like Lin Dan, Taufik, and Peter Gade can read their shots easily. Thats why LCW found his shots were no threat to these guys even though he was able to place it beautifully.

[fukusami16]

Yes ...agrreiable..But u cant blame Lcw becuse he is still young and he need experience to be like Taufik or PG...But i believe him in another 1 year time ..he will better than Lin dan...Hopefully...And he is also an attacking player...So he needs to thin alot when playimg against Pg or Lindan and Taufik....

[hara^kazuko]

According to the singapore open results score, kuan beng hong is out once again in the qualifying rounds.. If i wasnt wrong, he was brought down by ronald susilo or someone from singapore..

[ye333]

Just watched this game. Very disappointed. KBH is very slow and his shots are weak compared to the Chn open game against BCL. That one is the only game of KBH I watched before this thomas cup one. I was really impressed then. Maybe he is too nervous this time.


Actually, this guy is not as bad as I thought after watching his match in TC2006 semi-finals against Denmark. He has elegant moves, killing smash, and tricky shots. But he lacks the fighting spirit and he lacks the confidence.

[ye333]

I thinnk it's Susilo. So not a surprise. But not a good news for KBH either if he really wants to rise to the top.


According to the singapore open results score, kuan beng hong is out once again in the qualifying rounds.. If i wasnt wrong, he was brought down by ronald susilo or someone from singapore..