Team Indonesia has chance to win 3 titles.

MEN'S SINGLES
Taufik Hidayat vs Bao Chunlai -- Despite Taufik's poor record against Bao and his rumoured injury, I think Taufik certainly will not waste a good chance to win another Indonesia Open title. Bao will definitely be his greatest threat in the tournament and it will be a thriller.

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Zhu Lin vs Lu Lan -- Yawn...yet another battle betwen two Chinese...this time two youngsters. They have really shown their maturity by beating more experienced opponents such as Pi Hongyan, Xu Huaiwen, and Kanako Yonekura. Should be evenly matched with Lu Lan having a slight edge.

MEN'S DOUBLES
Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya vs Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan -- I have earlier wrote that Tony/Candra will win the tournament...and by the look of it, they could do it tomorrow.Tony/Candra is a a better pair compared to Candra/Sigit. I will not be surprised if they decide to play in the WC this year. However, for the sake of youth, I hope Markis/Hendra can retain the title. They have impressed this week by beating Malaysia's and Korea's young pairs in Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari/Lin Woon Fui and Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae. At the moment, they only face some problems beating experienced pairs such as Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah, Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen and Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun.

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen vs Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen -- again, an expected clash between Chinese current no 2 and no 3 pairs. Yang/Wei to prevail.

MIXED DOUBLES
Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen -- Nova/Butet is on a roll...beating Zheng Bo/Zhao Tingting and now Lee Jae Jin/Lee Hyo Jung. It was a surprisingly fast victory yesterday but I would expect another close match against the fastly-improving Xie/Zhong. There's no doubt about it, Xie/Zhang is definitely a gold-medal potential for Beijing 2008. I hope Nova/Butet will win...possibly in 3 sets....with the help of the home crowd.

Certainly mouth watering event. I still bet on the local boys to win it. Go Pik Go!
rgds

MEN'S SINGLES

Taufik Hidayat vs Bao Chunlai -- Taufik is not fit 100% yet. Not to mention BCL had good record against Taufik and he already used to Indonesia crowd loud cheering. :D

And this is BCL best chances to win a title after always losing to his teammates in most of the tournaments he participated. (Mostly LD and CH). BCL will win in 3 sets.


WOMEN'S SINGLES
Note here: Zhu Lin and Lu Lan probably thanks LYB by not sending ZN and XXF to this tourney cause it mean they had very big chances to win their first title. And it already proven by both of them reaching final.

Zhu Lin vs Lu Lan --

I had never watch Zhu Lin play. But I watch Lu Lan play yesterday against PHY and she play very good controlling PHY. So just maybe Lu Lan will win.

MEN'S DOUBLES

Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya vs Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan -- Not that I don't wanted Markis/Hendra to won but the experience factor will be very helpful for Tony/Candra to win this title.

And if Tony/Chandra win, it will be a slap in PBSI face cause their 2 main MD fail and lost to ex Pelatnas players.

WOMEN'S DOUBLES

Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen vs Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen -- Yang/Zhang will win in 2 sets.

MIXED DOUBLES

Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen --
Their record is 1-1. Nova/Liliyana will win in 3 sets.

They have impressed this week by beating Malaysia's and Korea's young pairs in Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari/Lin Woon Fui and Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae. At the moment, they only face some problems beating experienced pairs such as Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah, Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen and Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun.

Just to add a word.. they also have much to do facing chan chong ming/koo kien keat too... lol

And if Tony/Chandra win, it will be a slap in PBSI face cause their 2 main MD fail and lost to ex Pelatnas players.
Hmm, this is an old issue and actually it was proven somewhat already last yr during the World Championship where Tony and the not-so-known Howard Bach defeated the Pelatnas *experienced* pair in Sigit/Candra...Actually if Tony/Candra win against Markis/Hendra, it won't really be a "slap in PBSI face"...I mean how can that be??..You expect PBSI to keep all their former players for ever and ever (ie. Rexy, Ricky, Halim??)...Didn't those players leave *on their own terms* for whatever reasons they have??..
Sure, if Tony and Candra win today, it won't be a good result for PBSI's current crops of MD, but remember(which i'm sure you know also) both Tony/Candra are experienced, ex-Pelatnas players who have won all the top echelon IBF tournaments and championships there are. Winning against the "inexperienced" Markis/Hendra shouldn't be a surprise. But IMO, losing against those 2 younger pairs will be somewhat of a surprise..
;) :rolleyes:

BTW, right now i'm looking at Tony/Candra winning the MD tie, just purely on their sheer talents alone...On that note, i wouldn't be surprise to see the results of this IO *similar* to the 2005 World Championships' results, which were:
MS-INA:Taufik
WS-CHN's gal
WD-CHN's gals
MD-USA/mix pair:Tony and his partner
XD-INA:Nova/Lilyana

how's that for my "boldest prediction"..;):):cool:

MEN'S DOUBLES
Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya vs Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan -- I have earlier wrote that Tony/Candra will win the tournament...and by the look of it, they could do it tomorrow.Tony/Candra is a a better pair compared to Candra/Sigit. I will not be surprised if they decide to play in the WC this year.
Hehe, no doubt...But why just play in the WC..why not continue playing together overseas as a freelance pair as long as their bodies are still able(but poor Halim though, he's going to be left out:p )...Go to all the possible tournaments and start racking up those titles...and $$...hehe:p :eek: :) ..

for those interested to watch, click on this link and see post #38 to follow the link...good luck and enjoy!;)

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33453&page=3

hi guys
can any1 tell me d arragement or schedule of the tournament?

Taufik Hidayat vs Bao Chunlai -- Taufik is not fit 100% yet. Not to mention BCL had good record against Taufik and he already used to Indonesia crowd loud cheering. :D

And this is BCL best chances to win a title after always losing to his teammates in most of the tournaments he participated. (Mostly LD and CH). BCL will win in 3 sets.

Ooh...I did forget that BCL has never won a single tournament except for a Denmark Open title some years ago. This has added further pressure for Bao to win today. I recall he was leading 1-0 when he faced Chen Hong in the China Open last year, however, he screwed up badly later on (esp in the third set) and Chen Hong ended up winning unexpectedly. Yes, it's Bao's mental attitude. If he goes to the court with the pressure of having to win, it will be Taufik's advantage. Also remember that Taufik's sole victory is in front of a home crowd in yet another Indonesia Open.


Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya vs Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan -- Not that I don't wanted Markis/Hendra to won but the experience factor will be very helpful for Tony/Candra to win this title.


It will not be a shame if Markis/Hendra lost. Again, my heart says that Tony/Candra will win because of their vast experience. However, I do hope that the youngster can prove themselves by playing a smart game. Beating Tony Gunawan at the net is going to be a hard task. I guess they should watch the video of Fu/Cai beating Tony/Howard in the semi-final of China Masters a couple of mths ago. This is exactly what they should do...catch the seniors by surprise and build a healthy early momentum quickly.

hi guys
can any1 tell me d arragement or schedule of the tournament?
zeroexz,
see the link i've given above...you should see the order of play for the Finals..;)

zeroexz,
see the link i've given above...you should see the order of play for the Finals..;)

thkz pal~:p
appreciate~~

MXD follow by WS follow by MD follow by WD follow by MS

Ooh...I did forget that BCL has never won a single tournament except for a Denmark Open title some years ago. This has added further pressure for Bao to win today. I recall he was leading 1-0 when he faced Chen Hong in the China Open last year, however, he screwed up badly later on (esp in the third set) and Chen Hong ended up winning unexpectedly. Yes, it's Bao's mental attitude. If he goes to the court with the pressure of having to win, it will be Taufik's advantage. Also remember that Taufik's sole victory is in front of a home crowd in yet another Indonesia Open.

I thought Bao won the 2nd game in China Open... Well, today could be the best time to prove that Bao is more mature than before... He beat Taufik in his homeground during Thomas Cup 2004 and he had proven that he is better mentally in Thomas Cup last month, how about today? Taufik said that it will be more difficult to beat Bao than Chen Yu yesterday... Its hard to predict who is going to win today... This will be a really interesting match to watch...

Indonesia BISA!

hmmm is it aired today in any station? cuz i dont see it on today's sctv schedule. i wanna watch it badly..

hmmm is it aired today in any station? cuz i dont see it on today's sctv schedule. i wanna watch it badly..

today 12.30 wib, sctv will broadcast live the final (confirmed)

http://www.sctv.co.id/view/126,13760,,1149354000,1149395401.html

today 12.30 wib, sctv will broadcast live the final (confirmed)

http://www.sctv.co.id/view/126,13760,,1149354000,1149395401.html
taufik-ist, SCTV is not showing any live web broadcast are they??just on reg. TV..cos i can't find any link with the link you gave me...

anyways, abt 1/2 hr. to go til the Finals begin..:)

MEN'S SINGLES
Taufik Hidayat vs Bao Chunlai -- Taufik is not fit 100% yet. Not to mention BCL had good record against Taufik and he already used to Indonesia crowd loud cheering. :D


he could beat chen yu :D eventough he's not fit 100% (as you said)

i think taufik wants to win indonesia open 2006

taufik-ist, SCTV is not showing any live web broadcast are they??just on TV..cos i can't find any link...

anyways, abt 1/2 hr. to go til the Finals begin..:)

under info program there's video link, but it seems dead :D

under info program there's video link, but it seems dead :D
hehe, tell me abt it...:p :D ..ever since May 31st, none of the video link has worked on their website..:p :D

...has started..as i'm watching and listening....
see post #7 for link to watch it..:)

Please post latest scores and results :)

Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen

CHN 1-0

1-1 smash Xie long
2-1 wide placing LN
3-1
4-1 eide ret smash LN, CHN lead

3-1 CHN
2-3 INA serve

4-2
5-2 wide ret. LN
6-2 failed net NW
6-3 smash LN

7-3 smash ZYW
7-4 smash LN
8-4 wide ret. NW

9-4 smash ZYW
9-5 net ue XZB
10-5 smash XZB

11-5 good placing ZYW

11-5 CHN 20 sec. timeout by both teams...(gosh, the scoreboard on GDTV is not clear)..:p

11-6 placing NW
11-7 smash NW
11-8 net ZYW

12-8 net ret. smash LN
12-9 smash NW

9-11 LN serve
9-12 LN net
CHN serve 12-9

12-10 smash LN
13-10
13-11 smash long XZB

14-11 failed netting LN
14-12 good defense LN

13-10 CHN serve
11-13 INA serve LN net
14-11 CHN serve XZB net
12-14 INA serve

15-12 crossed placing XZB

16-12 net bh ue LN

Thanks so much for the updates!
Go ZYW and XZB!!

16-13 net fe XZB
16-14 very good long smash & rally, XZB can't reach the ball

13-16 INA serve
14-16 INA serve after a wonderful backhand crosscourt drop shot by NW...:)
15-16 INA serve net by ZYW
17-15 CHN serve
16-17 INA serve after net by XZB
17-17 INA serve after net by ZYW
18-17 CHN serve after net by LN
19-17 CHN serve after smash by XZB
18-19 INA serve after long return by XZB
20-18 set point for CHN after net return
19-20 INA serve after net by ZYW
21-19 game CHN wins 1st set....
wuih, that was fast..:)

16-15 let serve in
17-15 weak ret, NW and smash
17-16 net XZB

17-17 net ue ZYW

18-17 CHN lead, net serve LN

17 - 18 China is leading

19-17 smash XZB

19-18 long lob CHN

20-18 misunderstanding INA
20-19 good drop shot NW

21-19 net ue NW

CHN lead 1st set 21-19

Why do they go to 21? is this special tournament rules? Aren't they supposed to go to 15. sorry i am a noob.

2nd set about to begin..

ZYW to serve...

Why do they go to 21? is this special tournament rules? Aren't they supposed to go to 15. sorry i am a noob.
yes, it's the new scoring system in IBF..and welcome to BF/BC..:)

2-2 CHN serve after net by LN

2-3 CHN serve
3-3 INA serve
4-3 CHN serve after net

4-4 INA serve
5-4 CHN serve

5-5 INA serve after u.e. by ZYW
6-5 CHN serve short serve

6-6 INA serve after net by XZB
towel break...boy, this is gonna be a long night for me if i'm updating the score...:p

7-6 INA serve afer smash by NW
7-7 CHN serve after net by NW
8-7 CHN serve after net return by NW
9-7 CHN serve after net return by LN
8-9 INA serve after short smash by NW

10-8 CHN serve after net smash by ZYW
9-10 INA serve after net smash by XZB
10-10 INA serve after smash into ZYW

11-10 CHN serve after net by NW....20 sec. timeout break
12-10 CHN serve after net by LN
11-12 INA serve after smash into XZB...very good rally..:)..towel break..

CHN lead 11-10, break time

12-10 weak crossed NW
12-11 smash LN

boy, this is gonna be a long night for me if i'm updating the score...:p

your kindness is very much appreciated :D am i the only person following the final thru ur updates?....:confused:

12-12 net ue ZYW
13-12 good ret. XZB

12-12 INA serve after u.e. by ZYW
13-12 CHN serve after smash by XZB

you're not alone :) thanks for the updates!

your kindness is very much appreciated :D am i the only person following the final thru ur updates?....:confused:

yeah man.. thanks in advance.. no Bresis, u're not the only one.. me too!! juz that i'm more anxious bout MS.. haha

your kindness is very much appreciated :D am i the only person following the final thru ur updates?....:confused:
probably, plus it's sunday afternoon/saturday night..:p

14-12 good bh drive XZB
14-13 net ret. ZYW

14-14 net smash XZB
15-14 net serve NW
16-14 smash XZB

17-14 smash XZB, net ret. LN

18-14 wide ret. smash LN

13-14 INA serve after net return...hmm, Nova made a couple or son mental mistakes in the match so far..
14-14 INA serve after u.e. by XZB
15-14 CHN serve after u.e. serve into net by NW
16-14 CHN serve after smash by XZB
17-14 CHN serve after net return by LN....a lot of bad shot selections by NW..

18-15 failed netting XZB

19-15 weak ret. NW, smash XZB

18-14 CHN serve..
15-18 INA serve after net return by XZB..
19-15 CHN serve after net by LN....well, it's essentially over folkz..

20-15 weak ret LN
21-15 weak ret, smash ZYW

CHN win 21-19 21-15

Xie/Zhang sooooooo good.....so fun to watch the match!!!

20-15 CHN serve for the match and title..
21-15 game set...CHN wins, straight set...XZB and ZYW get their semi-revenge....as usual, the old Nova showed up-with a few brain freeze...and LN wasn't a factor much, almost none, in the whole entire match..overall i think INA pair made more errors..

Yay!! ZYW/XZB won!! Can't wait for MS too...still a long time to go before we can get to Taufik vs Bao match

Good morning, all! :)

I woke up just in time to miss the MX final! :p
Thanks for the reports!

What's up next? WD?

award ceremony...each pair gets a hat and flower....$10,000 for 2nd place and $15,250 for 1st place..:)
looks like CHN will be the big winner in this yr's IO...already secured XD, and 2 more are coming..;):)

Good morning, all! :)

I woke up just in time to miss the MX final! :p
Thanks for the reports!

What's up next? WD?
next up is WS....Lu Lan vs. Zhu Lin...see http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33453&page=3
for order of play..:)
and you should find a link also to watch it live on the web(GDTV)..:)

Thanks. Too early to find the "search" button, ahem. :o

Just enough time to get some brekkie before the MD!

Sandy, do you mind doing the WS scoreboard...i'm taking a break first-hehe...will do the MD if you don't mind...sharing the load..:p;)

oh well...
2-0 LL serve
3-0 LL serve
1-3 ZL serve after net return by LL

5-4 ZL serve
6-4 ZL serve
7-4 ZL serve...
oi is anyone else following this match??..hehe:p
5-7 LL serve..boy, both gals are perspiring..
8-5 ZL serve
9-5 ZL serve

oi...LL just took a bad step and fell...must be the wet floor...close to turning her ankle..
11-8 ZL leads....
12-8 ZL serve...LL seemed to be out of energy already..
13-8 ZL serve..hmm, just worried there could be an injury..
14-8 ZL serve..
15-8 ZL serve...she's running away...LL seemed to be out of gas..
11-17 LL serve..
18-11 ZL serve..
19-11 ZL serve..
20-11 ZL serve..
21-11 ZL wins 1st set....sigh...ok, 1 more set to go before MD, let's finish it in straight sets..:p

uh huh..hope LL did not injure herself...ZL should be able 2 win easily if LL is out of gas already in the 1st game

It's a pity that once again, Nova/Butet lost to the upcoming Chinese pair. It's not going to be easy for any senior pair to beat Xie/Zhang now.....

2nd set abt to begin..sigh...i think everyone in the area must be wishing for the match to be over soon..

1-0 LL serve..

uh huh..hope LL did not injure herself...ZL should be able 2 win easily if LL is out of gas already in the 1st game
no, LL is fine, but seemed to be not as fit as ZL..boring match, actually...looked like a practice session, not much competition..:p plus everyone is waiting for the MD and MS..:)

It's a pity that once again, Nova/Butet lost to the upcoming Chinese pair. It's not going to be easy for any senior pair to beat Xie/Zhang now.....

i blame the new scoring system =P.

It's a pity that once again, Nova/Butet lost to the upcoming Chinese pair. It's not going to be easy for any senior pair to beat Xie/Zhang now.....
hmm, well, they were very lucky last yr winning vs. XZB/ZYW and winning the WC..i think the scoring system is a bit of a factor as well..IMO, NW/LN's game is a bit defensive, esp. NW, can't believe he wasn't able to consistently control the shuttle so LN can play her game-couple or so bad shot selections by him also...i think they have reached their max *as a pair*, time to partner up LN with another partner...

anyways, back to the game..

7-9 ZL serve...LL's footstep is not as quick as ZL's, esp. for single player..i think she gets an advantage with her height...she's probably better playing doubles??..
8-9 ZL serve
10-8 LL serve
9-10 ZL serve
10-10 ZL serve
11-10 ZL serve
11-11 LL serve

does the new pplive suck or am I just incompetent? I can't get it to work at all. My WMP (windows media playeR) has always been a little whacked. I had the new year edition of pplive and it was awesome. In recent weeks tho I haven't been able to select channels from that version so I got the new one. I can't get anything to work anymore on the new one. It sucks!~

does the new pplive suck or am I just incompetent? I can't get it to work at all. My WMP (windows media playeR) has always been a little whacked. I had the new year edition of pplive and it was awesome. In recent weeks tho I haven't been able to select channels from that version so I got the new one. I can't get anything to work anymore on the new one. It sucks!~
Eurasian =--(O), no need to use pplive or ppstream...go to post #7 in this thread and follow the link to find the GDTV link to see the match live...hope it works and your WMP can play it..:)

back to the game..

ok, it's almost over...:p
13-20 LL serve
14-20 LL serve
15-20 LL serve
16-20 LL serve..LL hanging tough..
21-16 ZL wins...ZL won in straight sets....thank goodness for the rally scoring system..hehehe:p:)

ok, MD is up next....hope it goes to rubber sets..:)

Match pt to Zhu Lin, 20-14.
15-20 -- LL gets her fourth consecutive pts.
16-20 -- nice placement by LL give her another pt
21-16 -- net return by LL gives the title to Zhu Lin.

Next match, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan vs Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya.
Time for the youngsters to prove a pt.

back to the game..

ok, it's almost over...:p
13-20 LL serve
14-20 LL serve
15-20 LL serve
16-20 LL serve..LL hanging tough..
21-16 ZL wins...ZL won in straight sets....thank goodness for the rally scoring system..hehehe:p:)

ok, MD is up next....hope it goes to rubber sets..:)

Wow... u are still awake at this hr? What time is it in the States?
I just came back from church in time for the third and also my most awaited match. It should go into rubber sets....

http://wwitv.com/t_tv/7675.asx paste that url to ur WMP, winamp or real player and it should work.
low quality but it works ^_^

award ceremony is next...both players got a hat and flowers..2nd place gets $16,250..1st place gets $17,250...not bad for a week pay!:)...

Wow... u are still awake at this hr? What time is it in the States?
I just came back from church in time for the third and also my most awaited match. It should go into rubber sets....
hehe, yup still awake, can't miss it, esp. if there's live telecast...it'll be like this for the rest of the month of June, esp. with the upcoming World Cup starting next week..hehe;)
almost 12:30am here in the states...church is tomorrow, fortunately...;)...enjoy the rest of the matches badMania..btw, you're in S'pore already aren't you??..:)

hehe, almost 12:30am here in the states...church is tomorrow, fortunately...:)...enjoy the rest of the matches badMania..btw, you're in S'pore already aren't you??..:)

Yup...I am back in S'pore now till next week. Home alone right now since my other family members also went back to Jkt the day I returned back from HKG. Hehe..so I can enjoy the whole house to myself :D

ok, MD is coming up next....the ex greats vs. the fresh faced juniors..if Tony/Candra play smart and efficient, it should be over in 2 sets...too much experience and skill..:eek:

Yup...I am back in S'pore now till next week. Home alone right now since my other family members also went back to Jkt the day I returned back from HKG. Hehe..so I can enjoy the whole house to myself :D
haha, lucky you..:)..hehe, i guess your other family members are avoiding you??..;)

ok, here it goes..

0-1
1-1 M/H serve
2-1 M/H serve
2-2 T/C serve
3-2 T/C serve
3-3 M/H serve...Markis and Hendra are fast..
4-3 T/C serve

5-4 T/C serve
6-4 T/C serve...Tony still fast...still controlling the net
5-6 M/H serve
6-6 M/H serve
7-6 M/H serve
7-7 T/C serve
8-7 T/C serve
8-8 M/H serve
9-8 T/C serve
10-8 T/C serve...Tony is all over the front...Candra is almost like a spectator..:)
9-10 M/H serve
break...wow, fast game...Markis and Hendra are keeping up with their seniors..
10-10 T/C serve
10-11 M/H serve
10-12 T/C serve
11-12 M/H serve
11-13 T/C serve
12-13 M/H serve
12-14 T/C serve
12-15 T/C serve
13-15 M/H serve
13-16 T/C serve, good rally..
14-16 M/H serve
14-17 T/C serve
14-18 T/C serve
15-18 M/H serve
16-19 T/C serve
16-20 T/C serve
17-20 M/H serve
18-20 M/H serve...good rally...attacking Candra...towel break..
18-21 game set...Tony/Candra wins 1st set...wuh, too fast for me to type all the actions...:p

Tony is the master of net control. The senior pair wins the first set 21-17. The young pairs need to step up their attack...but with Tony patroling the net, its going to be difficult for them to win.

2nd set..

2-1 T/C serve
2-2 M/H serve
3-2 T/C serve
3-3 M/H serve
4-3 T/C serve
5-3 T/C serve
5-4 M/H serve
6-4 T/C serve
7-4 T/C serve
7-5 M/H serve
7-6 M/H serve
8-6 T/C serve
9-6 T/C serve
10-6 T/C serve..Tony and Candra running away..
10-7 M/H serve
11-7 T/C serve
12-7 T/C serve...Markis and Kidho keeps on smashing & attacking but to no avail..
13-7 T/C serve
woh, Tony took a funny step backwards..
13-8 M/H serve
14-8 T/C serve
15-8 T/C serve
16-8 T/C serve
16-9 M/H serve
17-9 T/C serve...after good rally...
17-10 M/H serve
18-10 T/C serve
18-11 M/H serve
18-12 M/H serve
19-12 T/C serve
19-13 M/H serve
20-13 T/C serve for the match and title
20-14 M/H serve
20-15 M/H serve
20-16 M/H serve...Candra laxing a bit..
21-16 Tony and Candra win....Tony and Candra won in straight sets...Tony still fast as he can be..
Tony, keep playing until your body gives up, just coach part-time..you'll probably get more $$ if you are to play more..hehe:)

Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya won in 2 quick sets 21-17, 21-16.
The youngsters do not have any clues against the quick-witted Tony Gunawan in front of the net.

More pocket money for Candra n Tony..:) I wonder since they r not playing for PBSI anymore..so do they keep all the earnings to themselves now??

MS now?
woot go candra/gunawan... they rock...

yay! go candra! go tony! good job!

Seems to me they are inferior to Tony/Candra in techniques too.

Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya won in 2 quick sets 21-17, 21-16.
The youngsters do not have any clues against the quick-witted Tony Gunawan in front of the net.

Well Done Chandra and Tony!

award ceremony..presented by Taufik's father in law, Mr. Gumelar...both pairs get hats and flowers-hehe:)..btw, they announced Tony from U.S. and Candra from Indo...2nd place gets $15,000??(couldn't see it) and 1st place gets $18,000....haha, lucky Candra, out from PBSI & he's all smiles now...:D

Seems to me they are inferior to Tony/Candra in techniques too.
as expected...they're almost like Tony's pupils'/students' age @ OCBC..:)

Do send my regards to those YY stringer boys down at the court. Its Bapak Bambang's staff.

MS now?
woot go candra/gunawan... they rock...
WD first and then the match we're waiting for...:)..let's hope for another straight setter from WD..oh, noticed all the matches so far have ended in straight sets??..:rolleyes:

Markis/Hendra still have problems playing against senior pairs like Tony/Candra, Eriksen/Hansen, Chong/Lee as I have mentioned earlier. When attacks failed as we have seen today, they don't have any other weapons to get pts. Playing against Tony patroling the net is another big problem.

However, they are very very young at 22 years old only. Time will mould them into a pair that could be as good as Tony/Candra.

I am wondering, how about tony/candra/sigit 10 years ago? Was their technique level the same as Kidho/Setiawan? My impression is that the former should be better.

So what happened to Indo MD? From tony/candra/sigit to Alven/luluk to K/S, seems the level of technique is going downhill...
as expected...they're almost like Tony's pupils' age @ OCBC..:)

USA will have the best pairs of MD.

OK, WD has started...huh, for this one, i will not post any livescore...taking a break..will post after the match has ended...sorry, but anyone else, feel free to contribute..:)

I am wondering, how about tony/candra/sigit 10 years ago? Was their technique level the same as Kidho/Setiawan? My impression is that the former should be better.

So what happened to Indo MD? From tony/candra/sigit to Alven/luluk to K/S, seems the level of technique is going downhill...
to answer your 1st question, yes, they were that good even 10 yrs ago...that's why the domination by INA MD from mid 90s to 2000/2001..
but time changes and they all grow older..

I won't say level is going down, but it's just not the same, for whatever reason..:confused:...possibly the newer MD pairs lack quality sparring partners(ie. during Tony/Candra's time, they have Ricky, Rexy, Trikus, Halim, Flandy, Eng Hian to name a few to spar and train with, world elite players, unlike now)..could be also just simply, the lack of new talents..not only in MD but MS, WS, WD and XD..guess PBSI will just wait and see what their new players have to show..:rolleyes:

The younger pair of Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen takes the lead 11-7.

I think in indonesia, the population of badminton players is so big that they should be able to maintain their standards. There a many poor and hungry players there who would like to have a chance to get out of the ghetto. Same like China.
rgds

to answer you 1st question, yes, they were that good even 10 yrs ago...that's why the domination by INA MD from mid 90s to 2000/2001..

I won't say level is going down, but it's just not the same, for whatever reason..:confused:

I don't quite understand :-) Anyway, to me, Ricky/Rexy/Candra/tony/Sigit (even Halim, Trikush) are real pleasure to watch, Alven/Luluk (esp. Alven) are sometimes pleasure to watch, but K/S's game seems a bit too simple...

Are all these people coached by C. Hadinato?

Yang/Zhang played badly.

I don't quite understand :-) Anyway, to me, Ricky/Rexy/Candra/tony/Sigit (even Halim, Trikush) are real pleasure to watch, Alven/Luluk (esp. Alven) are sometimes pleasure to watch, but K/S's game seems a bit too simple...

Are all these people coached by C. Hadinato?
sorry, which part don't you understand??..Hmm, as far as i know, all of them were coached by coach Christian Hadinata..:)

Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen take the first set.

It looks like ZJW and YW are just playing around, not being serious in the 1st set, i mean you can tell by the body language, just cruizin thru....probably going to give the match to their counterpart...hmm, ZYW could be a double winner in this tourney..:rolleyes: :)

Even the Chinese commentators mention that the senior pair made too much mistakes....they don't look to be in the mood of winning today.

come on...
these 2 teams prob vs each other like a few times a week...
they must be bored and lack motivation

oh my,
ZYW is a double winner in this tourney...winning with her partner in straight sets over ZJW and YW..
ZJW and YW are purely playing around, the match was almost unwatchable...CTF must be waiting somewhere in the crowd for ZJW to finish her match..hehe;):)

ok, award ceremony time..ZYW was all smiles on the podium, she must be very happy today...both pairs got hats and flowers..1st place gets $15,250, couldn't see what 2nd place got..

ok, the match we're waiting for is up next folkz...enjoy-:)

ok, 1st set is up...looks like all the people in the stadium are up and awake...

1-0 BCL serve
1-1 TH serve
2-1 BCL serve, after smash into TH by BCL
3-1 BCL serve
4-1 BCL serve after net by TH
4-2 TH serve...Taufik need to keep the shuttle close to the net, that's his bread and butter, play net more force BCL play close to net..whilst creating offense..BCL is too tall and has longer reach..
4-3 TH serve, wide out by BCL
5-3 BCL serve, drop shot by BCL
6-3 BCL serve
7-3 BCL serve
7-4 TH serve, short smash
7-5 TH serve
8-5 BCL serve
8-6 TH serve
8-7 TH serve
8-8 TH serve after a beautiful cross court backhand dropshot, BCL out of reach
9-8 TH serve
10-8 TH serve, BCL wide long
11-8 TH serve, BCL smash wide.. 20 sec. break..
11-9 BCL serve, after smash in
11-10 BCL serve, wide out by TH
11-11 BCL serve, backhand try wide out by TH
12-11 BCL serve
12-12 TH serve, short drop by TH
13-12 BCL serve, net shot short by TH
14-12 BCL serve, net by TH
15-12 BCL serve, long out by TH
16-12 BCL serve, smash in
16-13 TH serve, tight net by TH
16-14 TH serve another tight net by TH
16-15 TH serve, TH doing lots of drops and tight nets....
16-16 TH serve, another tight net by TH....and BCL hit into net
17-16 BCL serve
18-16 BCL serve, TH hit into the net
18-17 TH serve, another tight net by TH, BCL hits into net
18-18 TH serve, smash wide out..very2 close after TH did a very difficult backhand..
18-19 TH serve, another tight net by TH and BCL hit into net
18-20 TH serve, smash by TH
18-21 TH wins first set, after a smash to BCL forehand...phew, what a match.....2nd set coming up...:)

thank god TH won e first set...

keep updating will ya.. thanks...

2nd set is up...

1-0 BCL serve, TH smash hits into net..
2-0 BCL serve, TH hit into net
2-1 TH serve, another tight net and BCL hit into net
2-2 TH serve, another tight net and BCL hit into net...break..i'm telling you guys, TH needs to keep doing that...for some reason CHN's MS player just couldn't keep up with his tight net shots..ie. LD, BCL...
3-2 BCL serve, smash in by BCL
4-2 BCL serve, TH hits into net...
4-3 TH serve, short smash in by TH
5-3 BCL serve, TH hits into net
5-4 TH serve, smash in by TH
6-4 BCL serve, TH was trying to do the late-shuttle hit..
7-4 BCL serve, smash wide out by TH
7-5 TH serve, smash wide in by TH..break
7-6 TH serve, half smash and BCL hits wide
7-7 TH serve, BCL hits into net
7-8 TH serve, smash wide by BCL
7-9 TH serve, lob in to BCL's backhand side by TH
8-9 BCL serve, smash in by BCL
8-10 TH serve, another tight net by TH, BCL hits into net
9-10 BCL serve, BCL smash in
9-11 TH serve, after smash by TH and BCL hits wide...20 sec. break BCL and TH get some coaching help..:)
10-11 BCL serve, TH hits into net
11-11 BCL serve, TH hits out
12-11 BCL serve, TH hits out
12-12 TH serve, BCL low return shot hits net
12-13 TH serve, BCL smash return hits net

Man, what a nice first set to watch, many ups and downs. TH was making a lot of mistakes and BCL was playing it safe, essentially just waiting for TH to make mistakes. But towards the end Bao looked completely helpless against the Indonesian's net-play.

well done taufik!!! ayoh!!!

2nd set is up...

1-0 BCL serve, TH smash hit into net..
2-0 BCL serve, TH hit into net
2-1 TH serve, another tight net and BCL hit into net
2-2 TH serve, another tight net and BCL hit into net...break..i'm telling you guys, TH needs to keep doing that...for some reason CHN's MS player just couldn't keep up with his tight net shots..LD, BCL...
3-2 BCL serve, smash in by BCL
4-2 BCL serve, TH hits into net...
4-3 TH serve, short smash in by TH

wait a minute which is TH's score???? the left or the right???

7-9 TH serve, lob in by TH


Beautiful hold & lob I should say

7-9 TH serve, lob in by TH


Beautiful hold & lob I should say


11-9 Taufik

Mid break!

13-14 BCL serve
13-15 TH serve...
14-15 BCL serve, TH hits into net after tight net
15-15 BCL, TH hits into net
15-16 TH serve, BCL served into net...break
16-16 BCL serve, long out by TH
16-17 TH serve, short hard smash by TH which BCL couldn't return, after a wonderful rally...
17-17 BCL serve, BCL smash wide TH couldn't return
18-17 BCL serve, TH hits into net
18-18 TH serve, BCL half smash wide out
18-19 TH serve, TH smash in to BCL backhand side...
19-19 BCL serve, BCL net smash after another wonderful rally..this time BCL read TH's tight net shot...phew, what a barn burner..:)
19-20 TH serve, smash from net in, looks long but very2 close to the line...BCL tried to raised his hand and argue butmatch point...
19-21 TH wins...BCL hits TH smash into net...and what da, they brought out a small patrol vehicle across the court...:p

TH wins his 6th IO title...

wait a minute which is TH's score???? the left or the right???
sorry, i just keep on 1 side of scoring...BCL is left and TH is right...sorry..:p

taufik won the match... congret ya..

wow just witness 40minutes of godmode Taufik!!
Hes awesome... that was close to olympic form!!
tough luck with the line call though, GDTV commentator are damn annoying..
But the last call was good~
Anyway if anyone can get a better quality match please upload!!:D

wow just witness 40minutes of godmode Taufik!!
Hes awesome... that was close to olympic form!!
tough luck with the line call though, GDTV commentator are damn annoying..
But the last call was good~
Anyway if anyone can get a better quality match please upload!!:D
i'm sure someone has a better recording out there...not really spectacular, a few moments, but both players darn played their hearts out, one bounce either way and it could go to either one...very good match-:)

i'm sure someone has a better recording out there...not spectacular, but both players darn played their hearts out, once bounce either way and it could go to either one...very good match-:)

Bao looks very unhappy (kinda almost angry) with the result. I wonder if this is because of that one line call near the end of the 2nd set.

wow just witness 40minutes of godmode Taufik!!
Hes awesome... that was close to olympic form!!
tough luck with the line call though, GDTV commentator are damn annoying..
But the last call was good~
Anyway if anyone can get a better quality match please upload!!:D

My only regret was the dubious linecall. I congratulate TH, but I don't want him to win because there were dodgy linecalls in his favour. But this is sports I suppose, sometimes you just accept the decision and move on. Congratulations, TH! Who says he will not do well in the new scoring system?

i'm sure someone has a better recording out there...not spectacular, but both players darn played their hearts out, once bounce either way and it could go to either one...very good match-:)
true but gota admit I lost count how many times Taufik did a tumbling netshot..
and the commentator keep saying its luck, its really annoying
and keep saying the linejudge is bias and all, look @ china open and everything they never say anything

award ceremony time...both players got their hats and flowers...2nd place gets $10,000 and TH gets a hefty $.....;):D

Bao looks very unhappy (kinda almost angry) with the result. I wonder if this is because of that one line call near the end of the 2nd set.
i totally understand, if i was him, i will also feel the same...the score was close and tight and he was fighting like mad to win the set...oh well..

Taufik wins in 2 close sets 21-18, 21-19. There was one controversial call when the score was 19-19 in the second set. I thought it was an out ball to Taufik and a game pt to Bao Chunlai, however, the decision was made against Bao and it was match pt to Taufik. At that pt, it was game over to Bao.

One note I want to make is that Taufik was full of confidence throughout the entire match and looked determined to win. That was the first time I watch such a performance from Taufik since last year's World Championships Final against Lin Dan. He deserves his win. Once again, I reiterate....if Taufik wants to win...he will win. He does not show that kind of mood in the Thomas Cup. Let's see which side of him shows up in the Singapore Open next week. I personally don't think he will win next week.

Anyway, congrats to Taufik for his 6th Indonesia Open title. Too bad the other Pelatnas pairs such as Nova/Butet and Markis/Hendra could not win today. They will face tougher opponents in the Singapore Open, esp Markis/Hendra. They could go out as early as in the second round as they are once again paired against the Malaysian veteran pair of Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah. Nova/Butet will also face another match-up with Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen in the quarter-final. Expect another close match!

true but gota admit I lost count how many times Taufik did a tumbling netshot..
and the commentator keep saying its luck, its really annoying
and keep saying the linejudge is bias and all, look @ china open and everything they never say anything

Both players were exceptional today but I think overall Taufik played better (by a small margin) with his powerful smashes and superb net drops.

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Bao really tried his best though, especially at the end giving all that he got. He should have been a bit more agressive because I noticed that he didn't smash very often.

My only regret was the dubious linecall. I congratulate TH, but I don't want him to win because there were dodgy linecalls in his favour. But this is sports I suppose, sometimes you just accept the decision and move on. Congratulations, TH! Who says he will not do well in the new scoring system?
it happens, in almost all sport, even if one tries to avoid it...in that instance, i would like to see a side camera shot from the baseline, cos the camera angle used didn't give a good angle thus it wasn't that clear...for me it looked like it made the 1st bounced barely on the line, it was very2 close and too fast..for sure it's too darn close..:rolleyes:

Too bad the other Pelatnas pairs such as Nova/Butet and Markis/Hendra could not win today. They will face tougher opponents in the Singapore Open, esp Markis/Hendra. They could go out as early as in the second round as they are once again paired against the Malaysian veteran pair of Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah. Nova/Butet will also face another match-up with Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen in the quarter-final. Expect another close match!
badMania,
i will wait for all your reports from S'pore, if you have time to write in here...whilst i stay online to watch..:p
don't forget to take lots of pics, during tournament as well as going out socializing with the other BFers.>>and take lots of food pics!!..hehe;):D

The fact that Agum Gumelar (father-in-law and KONI head), Sutiyoso (PBSI head), Djarum bosses, his wife, and all the crazy Indonesian fans are in the stadium is one motivation for Taufik to win today. I can't imagine what will happen if he lost....

As a reminder, this is Taufik's first Grand Prix since the HK Open last fall (when he lost to WCH).

From the Singapore Open draw, if things go according to plan, Taufik should meet Bao yet again in the quarter-final. This time, I think Bao will win.

Magnificent net play from Taufik.. with the capital M!!:eek:

I indeed think TH is not worthy with this championship. BCL is more worthy. :rolleyes: The referee had an unfair behaviour with BCL. This maybe happen to all player's host country.
The IO should have an clear environment in order to protect Indo's images.

taufik won the match... congret ya..

Is it true score?

badMania,
i will wait for all your reports from S'pore, if you have time to write in here...whilst i stay online to watch..:p
don't forget to take lots of pics, during tournament as well as going out socializing with the other BFers.>>and take lots of food pics!!..hehe;):D

I will write some reports...but no photos as my digicam is broken :crying:
Loh and ants will take those nice pics....hehe :D

I indeed think TH is not worthy with this championship. BCL is more worthy. The referee had an unfair behaviour with BCL. This maybe happen to all player's host country.
The IO should have an clear environment in order to protect Indo's images.
well, other than that 1 close call, how do you know the result will differ??...it was a close call and a fairly fought match...try putting yourself in that linesperson who made the call...:rolleyes:
it always comes down to blaming the linesmen and putting excuse on home cooking etc., which i've highlighted the comment i put in bold..sigh..:p
BTW, mind explaining your last sentence?? how is that feasible to have IO in a "clear environment"??...:rolleyes:
Is it true score?
yeeees, it is the true score...;)

Nah... let's quote the usual BCL was injured, tired, etc... afterall, Taufik fans always use it.

From the Singapore Open draw, if things go according to plan, Taufik should meet Bao yet again in the quarter-final. This time, I think Bao will win.
No more stupid line calls against Bao in singapore (i hope so). This is the 2nd time he got a line call against him. The first one is when he played against Simon in QF. I'm afraid there won't be Chinese player in Indonesia Open. Just like what they do every Korea Open. 3 line calls against Chinese players when facing Indonesians. It is really dissapointing for a 6* tournaments. One of the linesman even changed his decision (during Taufik vs Chen Yu). It was really dissapointing, no wonder Bao looked like that after the final match. Anyway, two thumbs up for Taufik, he played well today.

I indeed think TH is not worthy with this championship. BCL is more worthy. :rolleyes: The referee had an unfair behaviour with BCL. This maybe happen to all player's host country.
The IO should have an clear environment in order to protect Indo's images.

come one don't be a sore loser..:) you win some you lose some.. i think both players play very good today..

come one don't be a sore loser..:) you win some you lose some.. i think both players play very good today..

yea... i agree with u... both of them play well...

come one don't be a sore loser..:) you win some you lose some.. i think both players play very good today..
I agree with you... Bao could return most of taufik's powerful smashes, which most player couldn't... And taufik's nettings were almost perfect... It was a really great match...

Bao could return most of taufik's powerful smashes, which most player couldn't
yes, i can see that he has a good feel of Taufik's smashes..add to that his lanky physique, which really helps him a lot to cover the court..which leads to your comment below for Taufik's counter-answer..
And taufik's nettings were almost perfect...
IMO, that was *the difference* today..It's gotta be "perfect" and his ability to do it consistently and effectively...For example, in many instances, esp. in the 1st set, when Taufik was trailing, he used that shot quite a few times in a row to bring himself back in the match after trailing...and it was Taufik's netplay which threw off BCL's rhythm a bit in the latter half of the 1st set and in the 2nd half...
You complement that tight-net shot technique with his smashes and that's a deadly combo, because both shots complement each other..:rolleyes:

I watched the match, Bao really has a killer smash and a very good defence, but a bit sucky in netting. I thought the last call scould be out and they could go for the rubber. That way the game would be more exciting you know. Hearth killer... Fiuh... Good jobs for both players

poor bao. was hoping he could win a big one.. but then again he's up against taufik in his favorite tourney. congrats taufik. nice to see you win again.

No more stupid line calls against Bao in singapore (i hope so). This is the 2nd time he got a line call against him. The first one is when he played against Simon in QF. I'm afraid there won't be Chinese player in Indonesia Open. Just like what they do every Korea Open. 3 line calls against Chinese players when facing Indonesians. It is really dissapointing for a 6* tournaments. One of the linesman even changed his decision (during Taufik vs Chen Yu). It was really dissapointing, no wonder Bao looked like that after the final match. Anyway, two thumbs up for Taufik, he played well today.

The tournament official looked unproffesionally, I little disagree IO 2006 held in this place.
Some years ago, The stadium was dark when Taufik & Chen Hong played in Final.
Bad line calls, cancelling of umpire decision also court moving (Lu Lan match in Quarter Final) was happened in this year.
PBSI must find other place beside Jakarta, maybe in new Djarum Hall ??

Well done Taufik. In general, it is not easy to beat the local tournament due to the local support available. Singapore open should be more even sided, however, the top players are not in this tournament. What a shame. See you guys in singapore!
rgds

The tournament official looked unproffesionally, I little disagree IO 2006 held in this place.
Some years ago, The stadium was dark when Taufik & Chen Hong played in Final.
Bad line calls, cancelling of umpire decision also court moving (Lu Lan match in Quarter Final) was happened in this year.
PBSI must find other place beside Jakarta, maybe in new Djarum Hall ??
The umpire is fine, but the linesmen sux:mad: ... how come they changed their decision... Should be in Jakarta. The new Djarum Hall is really huge. But i prefer in Jakarta, so I could watch every single match in istora...:D

The tournament official looked unproffesionally, I little disagree IO 2006 held in this place.
Some years ago, The stadium was dark when Taufik & Chen Hong played in Final.
Bad line calls, cancelling of umpire decision also court moving (Lu Lan match in Quarter Final) was happened in this year.
PBSI must find other place beside Jakarta, maybe in new Djarum Hall ??
Hmm, they said the same thing abt last yr's WC in Anaheim(eventhough it's a "neutral" court for most of the top competitors>>>TOO MUCH A/C draft coming out into the court etc.2
New Djarum Hall sounds nice(cos it's brand new), but it's still in Indonesia and they will still have home cooking...

please,
respect taufik ! :)
he has played well today and will continue to singapore open 2006, anyone who saw the match should agree with me :)

please,
respect taufik ! :)
he has played well today and will continue to singapore open 2006, anyone who saw the match should agree with me :)
I respect taufik, but don't you think singapore open will be different with indo open? This is Indonesia, but next week it will be in Singapore with more players competing, it will be a bit harder for Taufik... Besides, Bao would want a revenge:D ... Lets just hope his wife will support him in singapore, he always do his best everytime she's there:D , except in Thomas Cup...

please,
respect taufik ! :)
he has played well today and will continue to singapore open 2006, anyone who saw the match should agree with me :)

which one we should respect taufik or taufik-ist, sounds similar....just kidding....Congrats to TH !!! Bao was just unlucky.
Regarding the bad call, it also happened in China (Sudirman Cup) when TH played against LD, I still remember that. TH should have closed the 1st set but the linesman blew it out. I think God returns his luck.

I respect taufik, but don't you think singapore open will be different with indo open? This is Indonesia, but next week it will be in Singapore with more players competing, it will be a bit harder for Taufik... Besides, Bao would want a revenge:D ... Lets just hope his wife will support him in singapore, he always do his best everytime she's there:D , except in Thomas Cup...

Not only his wife. He'll (TH) do his best when lots of pretty girls support him..... hehehehe....

which one we should respect taufik or taufik-ist, sounds similar....just kidding....Congrats to TH !!! Bao was just unlucky.
Regarding the bad call, it also happened in China (Sudirman Cup) when TH played against LD, I still remember that. TH should have closed the 1st set but the linesman blew it out. I think God returns his luck.
Well, life is not fair for Bao... It should be Lin Dan who got that bad call:D ...

Well, life is not fair for Bao... It should be Lin Dan who got that bad call:D ...

LD is the luckiest shuttler ever except the important competition (WC and Oly). :cool:

which one we should respect taufik or taufik-ist, sounds similar....just kidding....Congrats to TH !!! Bao was just unlucky.
Regarding the bad call, it also happened in China (Sudirman Cup) when TH played against LD, I still remember that. TH should have closed the 1st set but the linesman blew it out. I think God returns his luck.

he..he :D

yeah... linesman is also a human , he has an error

yes.. i remember too, in china (sudirman cup ), taufik got bad call :D

Hmm, they said the same thing abt last yr's WC in Anaheim(eventhough it's a "neutral" court for most of the top competitors>>>TOO MUCH A/C draft coming out into the court etc.2
New Djarum Hall sounds nice(cos it's brand new), but it's still in Indonesia and they will still have home cooking...

CTJCAD,
your 'opinion' is alway neutral and make a sense :D

The umpire is fine, but the linesmen sux:mad: ... how come they changed their decision... Should be in Jakarta. The new Djarum Hall is really huge. But i prefer in Jakarta, so I could watch every single match in istora...:D

I mean the umpire when Taufik vs Chen Yu match.
I also prefer the tournament to be held in Jakarta, but Indonesia Open has been held in many location, Batam, Medan, Surabaya, Semarang, Yogyakarta Pontianak and other cities.


Hmm, they said the same thing abt last yr's WC in Anaheim(eventhough it's a "neutral" court for most of the top competitors>>>TOO MUCH A/C draft coming out into the court etc.2
New Djarum Hall sounds nice(cos it's brand new), but it's still in Indonesia and they will still have home cooking...

I saw some tournament in Jakarta, complaining because of human error wasn't tend to give advantage to host players. Many INA players also got bad call and made complaining in here.

taufik said
" winning indonesia open 2006 is a good start for me to continue to play better and better, after 8 months without any tournament title. i dedicate this winning to my coach mulyo handoyo, and also thank you, my father in law, who's willing to come here from jakarta ,specially to support me"

Well, life is not fair for Bao... It should be Lin Dan who got that bad call:D ...

i knew you predicted BCL would win :D
taufik played better :p

taufik said
" winning indonesia open 2006 is a good start for me to continue to play better and better, after 8 months without any tournament title. i dedicate this winning to my coach mulyo handoyo, and also thank you, my father in law, who's willing to come here from jakarta ,specially to support me"
Will mulyo be his coach after this?

Will mulyo be his coach after this?

he may still be taufik's coach,
if pbasi fire him, his rich father in law will hire him :D

i knew you predicted BCL would win :D
taufik played better :p
How do you know? hehe, actually i didn't predict who will win:D . The chance was 50:50 for both players... Both of them are still recovering from injury... But i have to admit that I would like to see Bao win:rolleyes: , 5 years without winning any tournaments, doesn't sound good...

How do you know? hehe, actually i didn't predict who will win:D . The chance was 50:50 for both players... Both of them are still recovering from injury... But i have to admit that I would like to see Bao win:rolleyes: , 5 years without winning any tournaments, doesn't sound good...

good reason, :D

i will support him if he doesn't meet TH :p

good reason, :D

i will support him if he doesn't meet TH :p


and i really hope that TH will win a match against BCL in any of their future meetings except IO.... which it never happened before... ;) so that it could proved me wrong that TH who won the IO, twice against BCL... we could deny that home crowd had played some part in helping him to win the IO titles...:p

and i really hope that TH will win a match against BCL in any of their future meetings except IO.... which it never happened before... ;) so that it could proved me wrong that TH who won the IO, twice against BCL... we could deny that home crowd had played some part in helping him to win the IO titles...:p

well , TH will get home crowd again from his singaporean fans in SO 2006

and i really hope that TH will win a match against BCL in any of their future meetings except IO.... which it never happened before... ;) so that it could proved me wrong that TH who won the IO, twice against BCL... we could deny that home crowd had played some part in helping him to win the IO titles...:p

pls tell me when TH won against BCL on the previous match?. Thanks.

pls tell me when TH won against BCL on the previous match?. Thanks.

first win:
sudirman 2001, taufik bt BCL in rubber sets

second win:
??? i forget :D

pls tell me when TH won against BCL on the previous match?. Thanks. Sudirman Cup 2003, in semifinal, TH won by 3 games, but Indonesia still lost to China...

Sudirman Cup 2003, in semifinal, TH won by 3 games, but Indonesia still lost to China...

yeah.. thank for the correction, sudirman 2003

indonesia lost to china 1:3.
chandra/sigit lost to cai/fu, it shocked indonesia team becos chandra/sigit lost to unknow china md :D, and that was the beginning of chandra-sigit dispute

first win:
sudirman 2001, taufik bt BCL in rubber sets

second win:
??? i forget :D
1st win in Indo Open 2002, 2nd win in Sudirman Cup 2003, 3rd win Indo Open 2006

1st win in Indo Open 2002, 2nd win in Sudirman Cup 2003, 3rd win Indo Open 2006

heh .... taufik lost to BCL in sudirman 2003, not win :D

yeah.. thank for the correction, sudirman 2003

indonesia lost to china 1:3.
chandra/sigit lost to cai/fu, it shocked indonesia team becos chandra/sigit lost to unknow china md :D, and that was the beginning of chandra-sigit dispute
I don't think its fu, its chen qiqiu or zhang jun, i forget that one... But the other one is cai yun, it was shocking... I wouldn't believe it if i didn't watch it... They are like 'emergency' pair, and candra/sigit was the # 1 pair... Unbelievable...

I don't think its fu, its chen qiqiu or zhang jun, i forget that one... But the other one is cai yun, it was shocking... I wouldn't believe it if i didn't watch it... They are like 'emergency' pair, and candra/sigit was the # 1 pair... Unbelievable...

i was shocking, too :D
chandra-sigit dispute seed had began since that

heh .... taufik lost to BCL in sudirman 2003, not win :D No he win, he lost to Bao in World Championship 2003... :D

No he win, he lost to Bao in World Championship 2003... :D

oh...yes , ur correct
and chen hong won wc 2003

oh...yes , ur correct
and chen hong won wc 2003
Its xia xuanze... Hehehehe... (BTW, Ini sich cm gw sama loe doank yg ngobrol...)

yes bad stadium in surabaya. surabaya is 2nd metropolitan in indonesia, doesnt have represented stadium for international tournament. I hope in next few year, surabaya has it. Please dont make indonesia looked bad :(

well , TH will get home crowd again from his singaporean fans in SO 2006

definately every players will have their own supporters.... what i'd mentioned about is playing at their home's soil or oversea.. esp in SO or MO... we always see there is supporters for ina...no doubt.. time will tell of what i'd said earlier..:p

pls tell me when TH won against BCL on the previous match?. Thanks.


TH won against BCL was twice... both also on the IO occasion..others when they met,, the matches was in Bao's side.

well , TH will get home crowd again from his singaporean fans in SO 2006

Not so sure about that... :D

I mean the umpire when Taufik vs Chen Yu match.
I also prefer the tournament to be held in Jakarta, but Indonesia Open has been held in many location, Batam, Medan, Surabaya, Semarang, Yogyakarta Pontianak and other cities.
they held it in Bali a few yrs. ago, but heard it didn't attract too many spectators...I believe this yr's IO is the 2nd one held in Surabaya..
I saw some tournament in Jakarta, complaining because of human error wasn't tend to give advantage to host players. Many INA players also got bad call and made complaining in here.
Human errors will always be there, no matter what sporting events and where...And in these instances, *linesmen, referees and umpires often times become the scapegoat*..if a certain player(s) play at his/her own home soil and gets a bad call, he/she will complain etc.; but if another outside player say comes to Indonesia to play and receive bad calls, then they all say, "it's 1-sided" or "it's home cooking, and must be some special treatment to home player" etc2 and so on and so on...:p :rolleyes:

yes bad stadium in surabaya. surabaya is 2nd metropolitan in indonesia, doesnt have represented stadium for international tournament. I hope in next few year, surabaya has it. Please dont make indonesia looked bad :(
well, "having standard to hold international tournament", maybe not, but i won't call it "bad stadium". I mean according to PBSI's and Surabaya's badminton organization's standard, CLS Hall is probably the "best and biggest available" sport hall in the city of Surabaya, which also hold games for the Surabaya's pro basketball team. So basically that's what they can provide. Heard also, eventhough they had air condition in the CLS hall, it wasn't strong enough, as the players were also soaking like crazy..
But i heard next yr's(2007) IO will be held in the city of Solo(near the area of the new Djarum Sport Hall in Kudus)...:rolleyes:

I watched the match, Bao really has a killer smash and a very good defence, but a bit sucky in netting. I thought the last call scould be out and they could go for the rubber. That way the game would be more exciting you know. Hearth killer... Fiuh... Good jobs for both players
i thought Bao played very well also, he controlled most of the 1st set, until Taufik started to "force" and keep BCL honest by doing the tight-net shots to set-up his smashes..A rubber set would be wonderful, no doubt, as the people who came to watch will really get their money's worth..hehe;) :)
Beside, BCL is not the only CHN player who fell "victim" to Taufik's tight net shots, ask LinDan and probably Chen Hong also...hehe:p :rolleyes: ;)

The umpire is fine, but the linesmen sux ... how come they changed their decision... Should be in Jakarta. The new Djarum Hall is really huge. But i prefer in Jakarta, so I could watch every single match in istora...
Doing it in a different place/city will not diminish or eliminate the chances of "bad line calls, cancelling of umpire decision and court moving"..
Regarding the change of city, i heard from a source from Indo that the reason they moved the IO to Surabaya from Jakarta this yr was because there was somekind of demonstrations going on in and around Jakarta. Another reason i heard was that they were doing some renovation work in the Senayan complex..?!?!..
I think the atmosphere is also different, as the crowd and supporters in Senayan were a bit more raucous and loud. This yr's tournament, seemed like the crowd was a bit more "subdued" and "organized"...
As for a new place to hold IO, heard they will hold next yr's tournament in Solo. Possibly in the new Djarum Sport Hall in Kudus..?!?!..:rolleyes: :cool:

can someone clarify what is Djarum? Is it a city or what? :p
And how do you pronounce Djarum? (D-jar-room or Ja-room??)
I thought the tournament was great!
With perverted cameramen keep shooting and hot chicks
And I thought the stadium look awesome... and the crowds were just amazing...
And people can come in so freely and shake hands with players, especially the weirdow that came out and hug taufik in the end and the random guy on the little car haha:D

can someone clarify what is Djarum? Is it a city or what? :p
And how do you pronounce Djarum? (D-jar-room or Ja-room??)
I thought the tournament was great!


Djarum is a large conglomerate group in Indonesia, with businesses in cigarettes production and distribution. It also sponsors one of the most famous badminton club in Indonesia (apart from Tangkas and Jaya Raya).

finally, got to see wijaya and gunawan on thier superb game. It is a pity that this is their last game..*cries...but i do enjoy watching them playing...they are real good.

And how do you pronounce Djarum? (D-jar-room or Ja-room?
Djarum is a large conglomerate group in Indonesia, with businesses in cigarettes production and distribution. It also sponsors one of the most famous badminton club in Indonesia (apart from Tangkas and Jaya Raya).
that's right...To add, Djarum has 2 clubs, one in Jakarta which develops Men Doubles or doubles players. While their main club headquarter is in Kudus, Central Java, where they just opened a new sport hall...see for their latest news..http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33491
as far as the pronounciation of it goes, the latter is the sound..

i thought Bao played very well also, he controlled most of the 1st set, until Taufik started to "force" and keep BCL honest by doing the tight-net shots to set-up his smashes..A rubber set would be wonderful, no doubt, as the people who came to watch will really get their money's worth..hehe;) :)
Beside, BCL is not the only CHN player who fell "victim" to Taufik's tight net shots, ask LinDan and probably Chen Hong also...hehe:p :rolleyes: ;)

Yeah, the tight net plays killed BCL for sure. Every time BCL lobbed it back it either went into the net or got smashed by Taufik (Taufik seemed to use this to score at the most critical time).

Taufik was also good in varying the speed of his returns (pushing the shuttlecock to the back of the court fast, and catching his opponents on the wrong footing --- even though they went long a few times).

When watching Taufik play, one gets this feeling he had control and will win even though he was behind BCL a couple of times. He seemed to be able to snap a few winners when he was down --- a sign of a person who knows he can control the game if he wants to. LCW from Malaysia needs to learn from Taufik --- Taufik is a real Champion !

Yeah, the tight net plays killed BCL for sure. Every time BCL lobbed it back it either went into the net or got smashed by Taufik (Taufik seemed to use this to score at the most critical time).
well, it didn't "killed" BCL, hehe, but it sure threw off his rhythm quite a bit...throughout the match, BCL seemed to be the one who is "reacting" instead of the "initiator"..
Taufik was also good in varying the speed of his returns (pushing the shuttlecock to the back of the court fast, and catching his opponents on the wrong footing --- even though they went long a few times).
well, Taufik was able to do that because of 2 things:
1. Strong wrist..For example, a few times, i noticed he was caught in a wrong position by BCL, and had to go back and execute a very difficult shot(either by backhand or forehand) and still got it to go over the net..
2. He was the one controlling the tempo/action, which you mentioned below..Eventhough there are times which BCL also caught Taufik wrong-guessing and on a wrong footing..
When watching Taufik play, one gets this feeling he had control and will win even though he was behind BCL a couple of times. He seemed to be able to snap a few winners when he was down --- a sign of a person who knows he can control the game if he wants to. LCW from Malaysia needs to learn from Taufik --- Taufik is a real Champion !
Absolutely..And he was motivated, for whatever reason..:rolleyes: ;) i mean you can tell the difference between his body language and BCL's-from the beginning during warm ups til the end..And a person who knows that *he is in control*. That's what i saw last yr(live) when Taufik played in the Singapore Open and World Championship..I think with him slowly getting used to and adjusting to the new scoring system, i think he will be hard to beat...:rolleyes: ;)

Absolutely..And a person who knows that *he is in control*. That's what i saw last yr(live) when Taufik played in the Singapore Open and World Championship..I think with him slowly getting used to and adjusting to the new scoring system, i think he will be hard to beat...:rolleyes: ;)

U may want to ask how I know you are a great Taufik fan. :eek:

U may want to ask how I know you are a great Taufik fan. :eek:
hehe, i am not a "great" Taufik fan, just a fan of great badminton player(s); and Taufik is just one of them. ;) I just happen to follow mostly Indonesian players, as i'm able to follow the going-ons from Indonesia...But i am a fan of all great player(s) from any countries..:rolleyes: :)

that's right...To add, Djarum has 2 clubs, one in Jakarta which develops Men Doubles or doubles players. While their main club headquarter is in Kudus, Central Java, where they just opened a new sport hall...see for their latest news..http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33491
as far as the pronounciation of it goes, the latter is the sound..

Hopefully, they'll devote the lavish new training center for the development of the women's team...don't we all miss the days of Susi Susanti & Mia :rolleyes: It's been a while since Indonesia competed in the elite women's events (esp singles)

I don't think its fu, its chen qiqiu or zhang jun, i forget that one... But the other one is cai yun, it was shocking... I wouldn't believe it if i didn't watch it... They are like 'emergency' pair, and candra/sigit was the # 1 pair... Unbelievable...
Cai partnered with Zhang Wei

Cai partnered with Zhang Wei

Just heard of that since over here no badminton channel available (pitty). It was quite shocking. Perhaps somebody can give me the video of that Sudirman2003 (MS and MD = INA vs CHN). Thanks.

i dunno what i want 2 say. i was very dissapointed about indonesia's linesman who made BCL lost to Taufik.......T.T although i got sorethroat because i shouted to support BCL in Ina Open, bao still lost by Taufik bcause of that linesman... i felt so angry to that linesman....so sad....

i want to singapore to support bao T.T

i dunno what i want 2 say. i was very dissapointed about indonesia's linesman who made BCL lost to Taufik.......T.T although i got sorethroat because i shouted to support BCL in Ina Open, bao still lost by Taufik bcause of that linesman... i felt so angry to that linesman....so sad....

i want to singapore to support bao T.T

take it easy.. these things do happen

i dunno what i want 2 say. i was very dissapointed about indonesia's linesman who made BCL lost to Taufik.......T.T although i got sorethroat because i shouted to support BCL in Ina Open, bao still lost by Taufik bcause of that linesman... i felt so angry to that linesman....so sad....

i want to singapore to support bao T.T

I am also a BCL fan.:D