5.31 adiiiiiiiii...when will the match resume??? i want 2 watch kkk n ccm!!

5.31 adiiiiiiiii...when will the match resume??? i want 2 watch kkk n ccm!!

Why would anyone hate Lin Dan? He plays well and he never do anything really bad both on and off the court. He never act rudely arrogant against his opponents during a game, he never shout like crazy whenever he wins a point, he never blames losses on injuries, I have not heard him sign autograph with an expressionless face or refused autographs without a reason, he never tell people "see you at world championship" all the time, he didn't have a lot of girlfriends and play around with women, and hey, he didn't even marry the daughter of some rich and powerful man! :D

All he did was quietly play his game and became world number 1. He's definitely one of the last to be hated. :p

Despite that, I hope LCW win. The guy deserves more titles for his hardwork.

He never act rudely arrogant? I don't know about you but to me Lin Dan has the biggest ego and acts very agrrogant unlike the rest of the top world-class players. Tonight is one of the couples of instances where he showed his arrogant, anger, & frustration.

Taufik may be spoiled and acts childish at times (rarely anymore) but he is not arrogant and have bad sportmanship like Lin Dan. This is why I do not like Lin Dan even though he is stronger than most of my favorite players.

there is something about sports that is more than winning and money, which is sportmanship. So what he is world no.1, he should be ashamed of this kind of attitude.
He was so glory (and so showing off) everytime he won matches, and he can't show some tiny little sportmanship to be a runner up ? shame.

Well said Wildstone...., totally aggreed with u
that's sport ..sometimes u win ...sometimes u lost.
u can't win everytime...

Classic battle indeed! I hope someone will record this match and post it up. The home crowd keep LCW going. Even if LCW lose.. he deserve the applaud by the way he played in this match. Full control and he is very calm. Will give him a call later.

Can also ask him what string and tension he uses? :D

From TV, I see LD not so sporting. Refused the head dress and took off his medal immediately at medal presentation. Not so good attitude from a champion.

No respect for local culture.:crying:

CW lost to LD in AE narrowly too, but did not show this sort of attitude.

What to do! Some chinese players don't have sportmanship nowadays. I think Taufik has a better attitude. Cai Yun/FU showed their third finger and scolded the crowd at Malaysian Open last year.I was there watching the game.I think those chinese great players from previous generation are better and humble.

If Lin Dan was so furious...he could just skip the prize-presentation ceremony. He took off the medal and refused the head-band...but still accepted the cheque :cool:

His actions was beamed live on TV where thousands of eyes are watching...and it definitely reflects badly on him! Honestly, I am VERY GLAD that he lost this way....this would fit in very nicely with his humiliation at the Olympics 2004 and World Championships 2005! Congrats to LCW for keeping his composure even when the odds are stacked against him...and he fully deserves his win!

Hi Mike....just by seeing Lin Dan in today's match against Lee Chong Wei gives me and many others many reasons to dislike Lin Dan.... he threw his racket away after the final point.....walked off without shaking hands...... at prize ceremony.... din smile..... took off the medal straight off..... and then refused the other official to put on the ceremonial head dress for him..... wat a poor display of sportsmanship. :mad:Ya, i agree with you.Doesn't he knew that he is on TV and hundred thousand of peoples are watching him?All his action show that he is really disrecpectful.Before this,i think the two of them are winner,but now LD is totally a loser because of his attitude,but i don't bother with him coz LCW has won!I hope Lin Dan will be more careful next time.If he continue doing this,i think more and more people will hate him.

The crowd boo Lin Dan at one... I just thought the boo wasnt loud enough for Lin Dan to be ashamed of

MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC

at 14-20, if LCW make ONE, ONLY ONE mistake..and the MO title will be LD's..

i cant believe he didn't make any :eek: :eek: :eek:

congratulations Lee Chong Wei!!!!!!!! *hugs* *hugs* *hugs*

Well said Wildstone...., totally aggreed with u
that's sport ..sometimes u win ...sometimes u lost.
u can't win everytime...

Maybe he cannot face the embarassment of losing from a 20-13 position........ I was trying to figure out any bad call during the amazing ride by LCW which cud caused LD behaving that way but too bad ...No

is tv1 going to show the MD match live?

congrats LCW :)
u made lin dan 'KO'

anyone please upload the game lcw vs lindan to sendspace.com :D

He never act rudely arrogant? I don't know about you but to me Lin Dan has the biggest ego and acts very agrrogant unlike the rest of the top world-class players. Tonight is one of the couples of instances where he showed his arrogant, anger, & frustration.

Taufik may be spoiled and acts childish at times (rarely anymore) but he is not arrogant and have bad sportmanship like Lin Dan. This is why I do not like Lin Dan even though he is stronger than most of my favorite players.

Exactly my sentiment too! I have never liked Lin Dan...and from today's incidents...I will NEVER LIKE HIM in the future! What a sore loser....

Even Bao Chunlai never showed such temper when he lost the Indonesian Open 2006 to Taufik due to bad judgement call! I hope players like Bao and Chen Jin can rise up the ranks and replace Lin Dan as China's no 1 player. Chen Jin certainly has the potential...and I like him.

is tv1 going to show the MD match live?

Yeah, until the news is over

Wow...a dramatic finale...and as what the commentator said..."Magic!" Lin Dan was so far ahead at match point, leading 20-14. Yet, LCW picked up one point by one point until it was 20-20. The crowd was hysterical at this point! Lin Dan still managed to get one more match point when a return by LCW was called out. However, LCW was still as calm as before and he levelled it. Then, he won the match when Lin Dan misjudged a long return by LCW. Lin was furious and walked off the court without shaking hands. What a loser...

During the match presentation, Lin Dan was clearly pissed off and he took off the medal after it was placed on his neck. He was booed off subsequently. Again, a bad sportmanship by a Chinese player after yesterday's incident! This is also one of the reason I don't like players such as Taufik or Lin Dan. They are just too arrogant and sometimes display very very bad sportmanship. They simply don't want to accept the fact that they have lost. Players such as LCW, Sony, Kenneth, Peter Gade, and even Chen Hong are better in this aspect!I can't put it any better than you have.What a sore loser?I wish it's just a momentarily expression of frustration.Take my hats off for Chongwei.What a fighter,he is?Marten FRost and Peter Gade were absolutely right for their judgement of him.Here is a young Malaysianwho deserves to be applauded all the way.There's MAGIC in the air to borrow the word from Hasbullah Awang,a well-known sports commentator.

Oh dear! will IBF fine LD? In some sports, you can get fined or banned for this reason.

Personally, I felt that he caused frustration among Malaysians, no Malaysians will support him anymore with him not respecting Malaysian Culture..

Dont come to Malaysia anymore if it's the deal...

Malaysian Culture has always gain foreign interests, I love the hat.. And what Lin Dan doing is making me boooo -ing him for hours

What to do! Some chinese players don't have sportmanship nowadays. I think Taufik has a better attitude. Cai Yun/FU showed their third finger and scolded the crowd at Malaysian Open last year.I was there watching the game.I think those chinese great players from previous generation are better and humble.What means by chinese player don have sportmanship?this is not fair!most of them have sportmanship.Maybe you are right,the player in previous generation are more humble like Zhao Jian Hua.

Exactly my sentiment too! I have never liked Lin Dan...and from today's incidents...I will NEVER LIKE HIM in the future! What a sore loser....

Even Bao Chunlai never showed such temper when he lost the Indonesian Open 2006 to Taufik due to bad judgement call! I hope players like Bao and Chen Jin can rise up the ranks and replace Lin Dan as China's no 1 player. Chen Jin certainly has the potential...and I like him.

yea...i totally agree 2 ur statement
lin dan really dun deserve 2 be ibf num 1 as his should be ashame of his rudeness attitude

is the men double match the last match 2day???

There's MAGIC in the air to borrow the word from Hasbullah Awang,a well-known sports commentator.

He's certainly better than most Chinese commentators we have to put up with at CCTV or GDTV. He has been commentaring on various sports (esp badminton and football) since I was young in Singapore...and I immediately recognized his voice. He is very experienced and knows the sports pretty well!

poor lindan, he led 20:14 in 3rd set, but he couldn't finish it and he lost :)


i think this is the first time a miracle happen in 21 rally points system

Ya, that's why i said Lin Dan was arrogant. I really don like him now.

yea...i totally agree 2 ur statement
lin dan really dun deserve 2 be ibf num 1 as his should be ashame of his rudeness attitude

taufik is better, though he's a bad boy , he still has attitude :D

What means by chinese player don have sportmanship?this is not fair!most of them have sportmanship.Maybe you are right,the player in previous generation are more humble like Zhao Jian Hua.

U tell me is lin dan sportmanshiplike? Okay, maybe that is just him, but he ruined China's image..

Actually what he had done is far worse than being unsportsmanlike... He actually didnt want to appreciate malaysian culture... What's for coming to Malaysia then...

He humilated me

I have always been proud of Malaysian's unique culture... It's the first time I have actually seen something like dat... Look at China's women double n single.. They are just curios with the band n willing to wear it... even though du lost

is the men double match the last match 2day???
with the sensational MS..other matches will be an anti-climax

Hi Mike....just by seeing Lin Dan in today's match against Lee Chong Wei gives me and many others many reasons to dislike Lin Dan.... he threw his racket away after the final point.....walked off without shaking hands...... at prize ceremony.... din smile..... took off the medal straight off..... and then refused the other official to put on the ceremonial head dress for him..... wat a poor display of sportsmanship. :mad:

Throw racket away - I would not consider that rude at all. Is not targeted as disrespect to other people.

Without shaking hands - We didn't see it on camera so cannot be sure it didn't happen later during the 1000th replays of the same shot. Just when I wanted to see what happens right after LD brought his bag to his coach, its replay and replay again. I really hate the telecast people.

Didn't smile - Although he should smile, but its almost impossible for someone who was 2 points away from winning by a decent margin and yet lost just only minutes ago, to put on a smile right?

Take off medal - Yeah, not very nice. He's probably pissed out of his mind, but still not nice to do that.

Refuse to wear the hat - I absolutely do not blame him at all. No offense to whichever local culture, but... I wouldn't want to be caught on camera wearing that. :D But I do agree he should have declined with a smile (again hard to smile in his situation). But hey, the girl's hat doesn't look as bad!

Considering the stupid circumstances that he let himself lose, I would give him a benefit of doubt for a few days and see more reports on that. I would want to read the reports from China first.

U tell me is lin dan sportmanshiplike? Okay, maybe that is just him, but he ruined China's image..

Actually what he had done is far worse than being unsportsmanlike... He actuaaly didnt want to appreciate malaysian culture... What's for coming to Malaysia then...

He humilated me
yea...better not be seeing him taking part in any malaysian tournament in future...he s jz tat lame....

Maybe he cannot face the embarassment of losing from a 20-13 position........ I was trying to figure out any bad call during the amazing ride by LCW which cud caused LD behaving that way but too bad ...No

Damn, just got back and missed LCW's amazing fightback. :mad: If this is true (no bad line calls) it's better than last year's final comeback. :D

Remember last year's final? LD was leading 7-1 at the rubber too, after that he disintegrated due to one bad line call (giving LCW back the serve). And LCW took it home 15-9. I maintained that LD should have not allowed the line call affect him so much, he was leading by a wide margin. Plus unlike now, they were running the old 15-pt server point system.

EastDevil, everyone wears that hat during the ceremony. I dont think you have to refuse wearing that. anyway its only for few seconds or minutes. After picture taking and all.. you can do whatever u want with the hat.

yea...i totally agree 2 ur statement
lin dan really dun deserve 2 be ibf num 1 as his should be ashame of his rudeness attitudeI think is enough to critic him.Although me is very angry of his today attitude but say that he don deserve too be no1 is to serious.I think this is a two different method and i think he doesn't mean it.We better don say some serious word.This is the first time i saw him venting anger,maybe he really care about this competition.We can't hate him just because of one matter,we should forgive him.i think all his fans must be sad if we continue to critic him.

Refuse to wear the hat - I absolutely do not blame him at all. No offense to whichever local culture, but... I wouldn't want to be caught on camera wearing that. :D But I do agree he should have declined with a smile (again hard to smile in his situation). But hey, the girl's hat doesn't look as bad!


I disagree! It's basic courtesy to accept whatever that the organizer has decided upon during the prize presentation ceremony. Refusing it certainly puts the organizer in an awkward situation. If I were Lin Dan, I would simply just storm off and didn't even bother attending the prize-presentation ceremony! Showing that kind disrespect in front of a home crowd and live TV audiences is simply disgraceful...and a sore loser....

no news abt the MD match yet?? this is becoming an anti Lin Dan thread...haha..so much reaction from every1...maybe he needs to hold a press conference later and apologize...hehehe

eventhough any other players who lost jus now, like tracy hallam, she still wore the hat n she did smile!!!

but lin dan...he was pissed but he didn't need 2 show it rite??

yeah, i also want 2 read the report from china papers...see wat they will comment on their own badminton player!!

Throw racket away - I would not consider that rude at all. Is not targeted as disrespect to other people.

Without shaking hands - We didn't see it on camera so cannot be sure it didn't happen later during the 1000th replays of the same shot. Just when I wanted to see what happens right after LD brought his bag to his coach, its replay and replay again. I really hate the telecast people.

Didn't smile - Although he should smile, but its almost impossible for someone who was 2 points away from winning by a decent margin and yet lost just only minutes ago, to put on a smile right?

Take off medal - Yeah, not very nice. He's probably pissed out of his mind, but still not nice to do that.

Refuse to wear the hat - I absolutely do not blame him at all. No offense to whichever local culture, but... I wouldn't want to be caught on camera wearing that. :D But I do agree he should have declined with a smile (again hard to smile in his situation). But hey, the girl's hat doesn't look as bad!

Considering the stupid circumstances that he let himself lose, I would give him a benefit of doubt for a few days and see more reports on that. I would want to read the reports from China first.

Even though u thought the hat looks funny, you should take it with appreciation... COZ u dun receive a hat like this in normal occasions.. It is an honour thing to be given this hat.... That hat is not just simply Malaysian Culture... It's the Orang Mulu Warrior's Hat with fighter spirit in it.. SO LIN DAN simply just doesnt have any fighter spirit...

I disagree! It's basic courtesy to accept whatever that the organizer has decided upon during the prize presentation ceremony. Refusing it certainly puts the organizer in an awkward situation. If I were Lin Dan, I would simply just storm off and didn't even bother attending the prize-presentation ceremony! Showing that kind disrespect in front of a home crowd and live TV audiences is simply disgraceful...and a sore loser....

I think it's even worse to storm off without attending the ceremony...dat's like 100% disrespect...but by refusing to wear the headgear..dat's abt 85% disrespect..:p

He never act rudely arrogant? I don't know about you but to me Lin Dan has the biggest ego and acts very agrrogant unlike the rest of the top world-class players. Tonight is one of the couples of instances where he showed his arrogant, anger, & frustration.

Taufik may be spoiled and acts childish at times (rarely anymore) but he is not arrogant and have bad sportmanship like Lin Dan. This is why I do not like Lin Dan even though he is stronger than most of my favorite players.

Mind sharing details of the other couple of instances when this happened?

no news abt the MD match yet?? this is becoming an anti Lin Dan thread...haha..so much reaction from every1...maybe he needs to hold a press conference later and apologize...hehehe

haha, i think he should really do...if not he will lose perhaps all the malaysian fans...n even the fans from other countries...

haha, i think he should really do...if not he will lose perhaps all the malaysian fans...n even the fans from other countries...

probably he should be banned from coming to Malaysia again... Well, some tournaments do with attitude like dat...

Well you can't blame him.. he played hard and lose.. he is vey dissapointed and pissed i'm sure.

Because of playing hard and dissapoinment u mean he can that?? Do u angry and u can kill peopel??
Still remember AE Semi-final where LD fough back from 8-13 behind LCW and LD wins the game. How is LCW re-act?? He leave his racket up and use it to crap to shown thanks for the crowd support and of couse mean congrate to LD.

haha, i think he should really do...if not he will lose perhaps all the malaysian fans...n even the fans from other countries...But it is too serious to open a press conference,things doesn't look so complicated.There are really many people anti him now,really feel pityful for him.I think he sure feel sad now.Hope his girlfriend XXF can calm him and support him!Now he need the support most.

Even though u thought the hat looks funny, you should take it with appreciation... COZ u dun receive a hat like this in normal occasions.. It is an honour thing to be given this hat.... That hat is not just simply Malaysian Culture... It's the Orang Mulu Warrior's Hat with fighter spirit in it.. SO LIN DAN simply just doesnt have any fighter spirit...

Does anybody has a picture of Lin Dan wearing any hat after winning a tournament?

But it is too serious to open a press conference,things doesn't look so complicated.There are really many people anti him now,really feel pityful for him.I think he sure feel sad now.Hope his girlfriend XXF can calm him and support him!Now he need the support most.

u do not need 2 feel pityful for him, cuz it's his own attitude n stupidity tat makes ppl dislike him...blame himself for tat!!

probably he should be banned from coming to Malaysia again... Well, some tournaments do with attitude like dat...

no la, if Malaysia banned him we will be seen as we do not have sportsmanship...we must be forgiveful...

What means by chinese player don have sportmanship?this is not fair!most of them have sportmanship.Maybe you are right,the player in previous generation are more humble like Zhao Jian Hua.

I mean players like Lin Dan, Chen Hong, Zhang Jun and Fu/Cai.

Because of playing hard and dissapoinment u mean he can that?? Do u angry and u can kill peopel??
Still remember AE Semi-final where LD fough back from 8-13 behind LCW and LD wins the game. How is LCW re-act?? He leave his racket up and use it to crap to shown thanks for the crowd support and of couse mean congrate to LD.

I'm totally agreed with you... Lee Chong Wei deserves the win... N i would say the crowd's boo to Lin Dan wasnt loud enough

Guys, have u realized how in most LD vs LCW matchups, there's always catch-ups. I think their matchups are the most exciting because you just cannot say that the guy that's leading will win.

In MO 2005, LD led 10-1 1st set, LCW caught up and won 17-15. Again LD led 8-1 3rd set, LCW caught up and won 15-9.

In AE 2006, LD won 1st set and led comfortably in midway in 2nd set, suddenly LCW ran a string of pts and won. In 3rd set, LCW held matchpoint (14-6 I think) and LD caught up and took the match 17-14.

Now in MO 2006, LCW won 1st set, LD won 2nd set with identical scores. LD led the 3rd 20-13, and somehow LCW did not make any mistakes to tie 20-20 and eventually win 23-21.

Does anybody has a picture of Lin Dan wearing any hat after winning a tournament?
He didnt even want the hat... He shoved the minister off by shaking his hand n head terribly

But it is too serious to open a press conference,things doesn't look so complicated.There are really many people anti him now,really feel pityful for him.I think he sure feel sad now.Hope his girlfriend XXF can calm him and support him!Now he need the support most.

Well, as you can see, many people here's momentary reaction is the same thing as Lin Dan's earlier. :p

He didnt even want the hat... He shoved the minister off by shaking his hand n head terribly

Sorry, I meant in the past tournaments elsewhere.

Mixed Double Match 3rd Set
Zhang/Gao leads 11:9

Lindan u should be ashame of yourself!!!
The "World No1" title is nothing without sportsmanship!!!
He juz dont deserve it!

it's so funny tat we do not show interest at the mixed double tat is playing now...hahaha

After this incident, I think Lin Dan will seriously think twice before he even want to compete in next year's Malaysia Open.

Well, as you can see, many people here's momentary reaction is the same thing as Lin Dan's earlier. :p

U shouldnt say that because Lin Dan action is insulting our culture n our country...

it's so funny tat we do not show interest at the mixed double tat is playing now...hahaha

You are true, i dont even bother to look at it now.. Frustrated with Lin Dan

Oh man he din even show a tiny bit of respect to his opponent and even our country!!! World No 1? Nah......

After this incident, I think Lin Dan will seriously think twice before he even want to compete in next year's Malaysia Open.

yeah... He will be welcomed by lots of booo-s n uuuu-s

I hope Malaysia Open will be held in Kuching again next year... see how Lin Dan reacts with our hat..

it's so funny tat we do not show interest at the mixed double tat is playing now...hahaha

he..he..he..
it's quite a good match..u guys should watch
CHN pairs still leading 16:13

The streaming got stuck again....yawn...same like yesterday's.

Oh man he din even show a tiny bit of respect to his opponent and even our country!!! World No 1? Nah......

The way he doing it is far worse than showing no respect to our country, it's insulting our culture :mad:

he..he..he..
it's quite a good match..u guys should watch
CHN pairs still leading 16:13

Can you update us? I hope the Danes win...

Match point for China

Can you update us? I hope the Danes win...

china leading 20:15

Zhang/Gao Won the Mixed Double title.
final score 21:15

anyone record the game

Wow...a dramatic finale...and as what the commentator said..."Magic!" Lin Dan was so far ahead at match point, leading 20-14. Yet, LCW picked up one point by one point until it was 20-20. The crowd was hysterical at this point! Lin Dan still managed to get one more match point when a return by LCW was called out. However, LCW was still as calm as before and he levelled it. Then, he won the match when Lin Dan misjudged a long return by LCW. Lin was furious and walked off the court without shaking hands. What a loser...

During the match presentation, Lin Dan was clearly pissed off and he took off the medal after it was placed on his neck. He was booed off subsequently. Again, a bad sportmanship by a Chinese player after yesterday's incident! This is also one of the reason I don't like players such as Taufik or Lin Dan. They are just too arrogant and sometimes display very very bad sportmanship. They simply don't want to accept the fact that they have lost. Players such as LCW, Sony, Kenneth, Peter Gade, and even Chen Hong are better in this aspect!
Yeah,totally agree with badmania!LD is really rude on that.Not showing sportmanship at all.It shocks me..I think Peter gade,Kenneth n other danish players,WCh n other players would never ever show that kind of attitude..It is so rude!"LD is upset" is not a good reason for that.:)

china won mixed double

U shouldnt say that because Lin Dan action is insulting our culture n our country...

But your current anger is similar to Lin Dan's in the way you have been saying all the irrational harsh things filled with hatred. Now it has become an issue of insulting your culture and even your entire country.

Do you always behave this way or just this moment? So look at it this way, Lin Dan is similar in that he reacted badly during that moment.

taufik is better, though he's a bad boy , he still has attitude :DTaufik is a gentleman.When he lost to Chongwei,though injured,he still credits CW with the win.Though many might feel TH has an attitude,he is still much better than many.Well I like your frankness.

Can you update us? I hope the Danes win...

I hope Jonas would win... but they are not fighting hard today.

Does anybody has a picture of Lin Dan wearing any hat after winning a tournament?
Are you saying that LD never wears any hat given to him at any tournament? now that's truly arrogant. But I believe he or the officials got an explaination to his behaviour today, just wait for tomorrow's news.

Taufik is a gentleman.When he lost to Chongwei,though injured,he still credits CW with the win.Though many might feel TH has an attitude,he is still much better than many.Well I like your frankness.

In this respect, I agree that Taufik has far more sportsmanship than his hardcore fans. :D :D :D

Are you saying that LD never wears any hat given to him at any tournament? now that's truly arrogant. But I believe he or the officials got an explaination to his behaviour today, just wait for tomorrow's news.

I'm not saying, I just want to find out if he has this habit.

Hey, we should learn to put wide-angled lens in our eyes sometimes.

But your current anger is similar to Lin Dan's in the way you have been saying all the irrational harsh things filled with hatred. Now it has become an issue of insulting your culture and even your entire country.

Do you always behave this way or just this moment? So look at it this way, Lin Dan is similar in that he reacted badly during that moment.

Fact: I am not a Malaysian. But still, when I watched how Lin Dan refused to be given the head-band...I was like..."what the...." It was a total disrespect of the culture and the organizer! Imagine if the scene was happening in Singapore and he refused to be given the flower (or other symbolic item) during the prize presentation ceremony. What would you feel?? He made LCW and the VIP giving the prizes some awkward moments! Other losers don't display such disrespect...

Are you saying that LD never wears any hat given to him at any tournament? now that's truly arrogant. But I believe he or the officials got an explaination to his behaviour today, just wait for tomorrow's news.

he may only wear LYB's hat :D

Taufik is a gentleman.When he lost to Chongwei,though injured,he still credits CW with the win.Though many might feel TH has an attitude,he is still much better than many.Well I like your frankness.

When he lost to Sato and Lin Dan during the Thomas Cup, he still shook their hands...he accepted his defeat. Unlike Lin Dan today....what a shame...

When he lost to Sato and Lin Dan during the Thomas Cup, he still shook their hands...he accepted his defeat. Unlike Lin Dan today....what a shame...
To lose 2 years in arow when he thought he had the title in the bag maybe tooooooooo much for him

At least the Dane and China XD pairs enjoy wearing the hats.....
taking part in tournaments around the world allowed you to learn more about the cultures of people surviving in this wide world....

Fact: I am not a Malaysian. But still, when I watched how Lin Dan refused to be given the head-band...I was like..."what the...." It was a total disrespect of the culture and the organizer! Imagine if the scene was happening in Singapore and he refused to be given the flower (or other symbolic item) during the prize presentation ceremony. What would you feel?? He made LCW and the VIP giving the prizes some awkward moments! Other losers don't display such disrespect...

You cannot ask me that question as I do not represent a typical Singaporean. :D I'm a far too liberal kind of person. I simply do not bother at all whether people are comfortable with donning symbols of my country or not and I don't take it as an insult because its their choice. I'm a weirdo I have to admit. :D

But I do believe Lin Dan should have declined politely if he do not wish to wear the hat.

At least the Dane and China XD pairs enjoy wearing the hats.....
taking part in tournaments around the world allowed you to learn more about the cultures of people surviving in this wide world....

But this time they asked the participants first before offering it. :D

Mind sharing details of the other couple of instances when this happened?

I don't know...like taking off his shirts and the finger-pointing salute. If I remember correctly, when he lost last year to LCW in the 2005 Malaysian Open, I don't think he shook hand with LCW either. I think it was Lee who made the extra effort to walk to over to where Lin was packing his stuff to congratulate him for an excellent game.

I don't know...to me it does seems like he's a sore loser. Of course losing isn't fun but if you noticed other players' expression after they lost a match, it is not NEARLY as anything like Lin Dan's. Other players will acknowledge their opponent's superiority that day by shaking hand with their opponents whole-heartedly. Some goes further by patting on the other player's back and there are others that even friendly "hug."

I believe if you do a search for the pictures from the 2005 Singapore Open you will see that Peter GADE truly did acknowledge great game play of Taufik through these actions even though Peter lost (he had lost in 3 very very close sets). I think Kenneth Jonassen genuinely gave Taufik friendly hug after their game during the 2006 Indonesian Open. Same thing with Taufik, even if he loses, he would clap & applaud after every match.

I am not saying people should go to this extremity but something near the other end of the sprectrum such as Lin Dan's action, attitude, and expressions aren't what we need because it is unsportmanship-like. Lin Dan is the worst player I've seen with sportmanship.

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I've also noticed that for some reason generally Chinese players do not have good sportmanship as whole even when the opponents are Chinese. I have rarely ever see Chinese women's singles/doubles or even men's singles really congratulate each other after a match which makes me think they might not really be happy for their winning teammate(s). Dannish (eg. Peter GADE, Kenneth, Jonas) and Indonesian players (eg. Sigit, Candra, Tony, Halim, Taufik) are very close to each other and are always sincere when shaking hands with their own teammates.

maybe the hat doesn't fit lindan's head, offcourse he's a big head :)

Can Mohd Fairuzizuan/Lin Woon Fui able to beat CCM/KKK ? I hope they can put up a good fight.

wow, kkk nv wear hair band 2day

I'm not saying, I just want to find out if he has this habit.

Hey, we should learn to put wide-angled lens in our eyes sometimes.

EastDevil, If Ronald had beaten and LD in such a manner in SO, and LD refused in such a manner, I think you will be singing a different song.

Wide=angled lens? This is basic human courtesy we are talking about. LD does not even have that, he is a machine trained for badminton. I am sorry but u cannot understand our disappointment now, this is becos MAS fans always held LD so highly, and now he does this :crying:

It is not only about disrespect, LD has disappointed and let down the badminton world by acting like such a child. I will not support LD again, and I think a lot of ppl will agree with me unless LD changes his attitude.

Dont ask us to look at the big picture if you yourself missed the main and basic fact about human decency.

okay we can get back to "how could lin dan" comments later, now let's enjoy the MD

But this time they asked the participants first before offering it. :D
Well with the 'slap in the face' by LD no suprising they ask first and the pairs do not object

Well with the 'slap in the face' by LD no suprising they ask first and the pairs do not object

Lets see whether KKK will refuse the hat if he lost later...hehehe :D That guy is also very temperemental.

maybe the hat doesn't fit lindan's head, offcourse he's a big head :)
A good one !!!!

okay we can get back to "how could lin dan" comments later, now let's enjoy the MD

Not interesting...all-Malaysian final :D

maybe the hat doesn't fit lindan's head, offcourse he's a big head :)


he..he..he...
:D :D :D

Can Mohd Fairuzizuan/Lin Woon Fui able to beat CCM/KKK ? I hope they can put up a good fight.

Mohd Tazari/Lin have beaten CCM/KKK last year. They are in fact Malaysia's National Champion. However, they are still relatively inconsistent...losing to Hendra Gunawan/Joko Riyadi and Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan in the past month. However, they are one of the few pairs for the future...and Rexy has in fact given his approval to this pair to compete in the World Championships.

Malaysia's MD is in for a very good decade. They have Mohd Tazari/Lin, Gan/Abdul Latif, Hoon/Tan, and Tan/Ong (finally see them in action again after a long absence).

Lin/Mohd tazari won the 1st game

You are true, i dont even bother to look at it now.. Frustrated with Lin Dan


i am too late to join the forum, i saw it, and i give my strongest boooooooooo to LD ...... boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo panjang !!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

Lin/Mohd tazari won the 1st game

It could be a ploy by Rexy to boost their ranking...with the WC seeding in mind. He wants all his 3 pairs to be in the top 8. Looking at current rankings, they might make it. Mohd Tazari/Lin have yet to win an open title...so..the maiden win might just boost their confidence.

Looking at the ranking, it's likely that CCM/KKK and Choong/Lee will be the top 4, while Mohd Tazari/Lin be no 6 or 7th seed.

Mohd Tazari/Lin have beaten CCM/KKK last year. They are in fact Malaysia's National Champion. However, they are still relatively inconsistent...losing to Hendra Gunawan/Joko Riyadi and Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan in the past month. However, they are one of the few pairs for the future...and Rexy has in fact given his approval to this pair to compete in the World Championships.

Malaysia's MD is in for a very good decade. They have Mohd Tazari/Lin, Gan/Abdul Latif, Hoon/Tan, and Tan/Ong (finally see them in action again after a long absence).

They won the first set and I hope they will become the champion and to strengthen their confidence in international circuits.

i'm surprised
there's no lindan's fan to stand behind him, making a reason why LD did that :)

EastDevil, If Ronald had beaten and LD in such a manner in SO, and LD refused in such a manner, I think you will be singing a different song.

Wide=angled lens? This is basic human courtesy we are talking about. LD does not even have that, he is a machine trained for badminton. I am sorry but u cannot understand our disappointment now, this is becos MAS fans always held LD so highly, and now he does this :crying:

It is not only about disrespect, LD has disappointed and let down the badminton world by acting like such a child. I will not support LD again, and I think a lot of ppl will agree with me unless LD changes his attitude.

Dont ask us to look at the big picture if you yourself missed the main and basic fact about human decency.

wl2172, its a big mistake to ask me about those Ronald-LD scenarios. I simply don't bother about such things enough to react so aggressively to. So don't tell me what song I would be singing.

Lin Dan can get childish sometimes, but who doesn't? Don't you think its also very childish to look at one badminton player's bad reaction and put it in line to insult of culture and a country, facts of human decency, bans, fines, etc? These kind of over-the-top reactions already contributed to a lot of confrontation between races/religions/etc these days especially those groups of people that are very prone to such reactions. If you don't like LD's attitude, just don't support him or watch his games. I am very sure he will be devastated to know that you will not support him in future. :p

It could be a ploy by Rexy to boost their ranking...with the WC seeding in mind. He wants all his 3 pairs to be in the top 8. Looking at current rankings, they might make it. Mohd Tazari/Lin have yet to win an open title...so..the maiden win might just boost their confidence.

During AE06, they defeated Cai / Fu easily, much easier than CCM/KKK beating Cai/Fu yesterday.:D

i'm surprised
there's no lindan's fan to stand behind him, making a reason why LD did that :)

I'm both of their's fan actually and I was supporting LCW today because I think he deserve another title this time round. I was scolding him over the Tv earlier for slacking after winning the first set and on the brink of losing the rubber set. Luckily he "heard" me scolding him and started chasing. :D :D :D

ccm/kkk won the 2nd game 21-11

It could be a ploy by Rexy to boost their ranking...with the WC seeding in mind. He wants all his 3 pairs to be in the top 8. Looking at current rankings, they might make it. Mohd Tazari/Lin have yet to win an open title...so..the maiden win might just boost their confidence.

Looking at the ranking, it's likely that CCM/KKK and Choong/Lee will be the top 4, while Mohd Tazari/Lin be no 6 or 7th seed.

I thought the world cup seeding was already fixed based on the earlier ranking list?

During AE06, they defeated Cai / Fu easily, much easier than CCM/KKK beating Cai/Fu yesterday.:D

It seems that Fu/Cai have a phobia when playing against Malaysian pairs. Yet, when the Malaysian pairs are playing against Indonesian pairs, they tend to lose.

I thought the world cup seeding was already fixed based on the earlier ranking list?

I don't think so...that was the provisional list.

Lets see whether KKK will refuse the hat if he lost later...hehehe :D That guy is also very temperemental.

Hey, he's malaysian! You want him to get murdered on the streets of kuching? :D

With hopes of titles in MS and MD virtually zero for Team Indonesia in the upcoming WC, I will become a Malaysian supporter for once...hehe :D

wl2172, its a big mistake to ask me about those Ronald-LD scenarios. I simply don't bother about such things enough to react so aggressively to. So don't tell me what song I would be singing.

Lin Dan can get childish sometimes, but who doesn't? Don't you think its also very childish to look at one badminton player's bad reaction and put it in line to insult of culture and a country, facts of human decency, bans, fines, etc? These kind of over-the-top reactions already contributed to a lot of confrontation between races/religions/etc these days especially those groups of people that are very prone to such reactions. If you don't like LD's attitude, just don't support him or watch his games. I am very sure he will be devastated to know that you will not support him in future. :p


It's great that you are not so judgemental but some criticsm especially with bad behaviors and attitudes is okay because that's how we learn and improve not just with badminton but also with our conducts in front of others. If we allow ourselves to be surrounded by these types of bad behaviors, the younger generation will use that as a model and they'll grow up becoming just as bad or even worse since "great" role-models like Lin Dan are doing that.

I don't think so...that was the provisional list.

Its already phase 2 still provisional? When will the final list be?

i'm surprised
there's no lindan's fan to stand behind him, making a reason why LD did that :)

yannie is probably still asleep right now....and you can say that most of us are anti Lin-Dan (with the exception of EastDevil..hehe) :D

What's with KKK and that white cloth on his head? Did he write Bi Shen on it or something?

ok..tv1 has ended the live telecast since the title is already in Malaysia's hand (according to hasbullah awang)..sigh..

Its already phase 2 still provisional? When will the final list be?

From the IBF website, here's the schedule:

Monday 17 July 2006
Final deadline for Members to confirm entries
Thursday 7 September 2006
World Ranking to determine seeds
Friday 8 September 2006
Draw date

It seems that Fu/Cai have a phobia when playing against Malaysian pairs. Yet, when the Malaysian pairs are playing against Indonesian pairs, they tend to lose.

Only LWW/CTF showing good results against Indonesian pairs.:D

So, there are 5 more opens with ranking points up for grabs before final seeding takes place in September. 2 Six-Star tournaments (Korea and HK Opens), 1 Five-Star tournaments (Chinese Taipei Open next week), 2 Four and Three-Star tournaments (Macau and Thailand Open next month).

ok..tv1 has ended the live telecast since the title is already in Malaysia's hand (according to hasbullah awang)..sigh..
No it is still showing the rubber set MD

yannie is probably still asleep right now....and you can say that most of us are anti Lin-Dan (with the exception of EastDevil..hehe) :D

yeah u're right!!LCW deserve the title against the snob lin d:cool:

yannie is probably still asleep right now....and you can say that most of us are anti Lin-Dan (with the exception of EastDevil..hehe) :D

i think YANNIE will cry to read all anti-lindan comments

Any updates from those still watching ?

No it is still showing the rubber set MD

really? oops..dat's what i heard he was saying ...i'll retune back to tv1 now..thanks!

With hopes of titles in MS and MD virtually zero for Team Indonesia in the upcoming WC, I will become a Malaysian supporter for once...hehe :D

how can you say that?? Isn't Taufik playing? Also our MDs aren't that bad either, just need to be "polished" leading up to september.

i think YANNIE will cry to read all anti-lindan comments


I certainly hope that Yannie & other Lin Dan's fans do not approve of his action here tonight as it is just unacceptable.

Just because you are good does not justify these kind of behaviors as acceptable when you lose.

ccm/kkk won the MD final

Yo, guys, enough of the anti LD stuffs. I am trying to find out who won the MD. Can someone please post 3rd sets result.

how can you say that?? Isn't Taufik playing? Also our MDs aren't that bad either, just need to be "polished" leading up to september.

I personally don't think Taufik still has the fire in him to win the WC, after he clinched the title himself last year. As for MD, I am still harboring some hopes, but, PBSI might just send only Luluk/Alvent and deny Kido/Hendra and Hendra/Joko yet again with the same old reason of wanting at least a semi-final place. Till now, they have yet to confirm who will be competing...while other countries have more or less done so.

As I can see it, the only players who are definitely going there are Taufik, Luluk/Alvent, and Nova/Butet. The other eligible players such as Sony, Simon, Kido/Hendra, and Jo/Greysia have 50% chance to be denied. WS players, Nitya/Nadya, and Anggun/Yunita are definitely not going to Madrid for various reasons.

This is similar to last year's policy of sending 2 MS, 3 MD, and 1 XD.

Yo, guys, enough of the anti LD stuffs. I am trying to find out who won the MD. Can someone please post 3rd sets result.


21-17 KKK/CCM won, the hat drop out from KKK, ha ha ha

21-17 KKK/CCM won, the hat drop out from KKK, ha ha ha
His head is too big for the hat.....:) :) :)

21-17 KKK/CCM won, the hat drop out from KKK, ha ha haYa, so funny his head is too big for the hat.

did u guys realize when the umpire having trouble to pronounce fairuzizuan's name?then,he was smile..so funny;)

It's great that you are not so judgemental but some criticsm especially with bad behaviors and attitudes is okay because that's how we learn and improve not just with badminton but also with our conducts in front of others. If we allow ourselves to be surrounded by these types of bad behaviors, the younger generation will use that as a model and they'll grow up becoming just as bad or even worse since "great" role-models like Lin Dan are doing that.

Some sports stars are definitely not "great" role-models but let's not credit sportsman's behaviour with that much influence on children. Badly-bahaved kids are products of their parents.

One thing is, we put too much attention to sportsmen to be role-models. These people are isolated young people who does nothing much but train for their sports and they are definitely not qualified to be role-models for our children.

They can be good or bad case studies, but definitely not role-models.

yannie is probably still asleep right now....and you can say that most of us are anti Lin-Dan (with the exception of EastDevil..hehe) :D

Eh... I just don't go anti anyone that's all. Okay, I am anti those players that do not work hard. :D

okay since MD is ended I guess we could go back to the whole lin dan being an ass discussion.

Some sports stars are definitely not "great" role-models but let's not credit sportsman's behaviour with that much influence on children. Badly-bahaved kids are products of their parents.

One thing is, we put too much attention to sportsmen to be role-models. These people are isolated young people who does nothing much but train for their sports and they are definitely not qualified to be role-models for our children.

They can be good or bad case studies, but definitely not role-models.

All popular people (even fictional ones like Superman) are role models whether they like it or not.

lCW vs Lin dan part 2 in taipei open 2006 will be a interesting match
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korea vs france....
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well..... on second thought, LD isn't really that impolite. Instead of saying it out, I think he's giving a hint to the future organisers that all he cares is the cheque. No flowers, hat, medal etc etc for him except the cheque. :p

well..... on second thought, LD isn't really that impolite. Instead of saying it out, I think he's giving a hint to the future organisers that all he cares is the cheque. No flowers, hat, medal etc etc for him except the cheque. :p

On a more serious note, I would suggest that the organisers do not host the award ceremony immediately after a match because sometimes, emotions run high and these players who psyche themselves alot to play the game might not have cooled down and think straight yet.

On a more serious note, I would suggest that the organisers do not host the award ceremony immediately after a match because sometimes, emotions run high and these players who psyche themselves alot to play the game might not have cooled down and think straight yet.

This has been the tradition in almost every sport...badminton, tennis, table tennis, even football finals. If the award presentation ceremony is after the finals have been concluded, when is the more appropriate time?

This has been the tradition in almost every sport...badminton, tennis, table tennis, even football finals. If the award presentation ceremony is after the finals have been concluded, when is the more appropriate time?

Agreed, and somemore it is not the organiser's fault that the player could not control his emotions. A fully trained and best players should have high EQ as well as skills. Obviously LD has not learnt this and he does not deserve to be "No.1".

Looking at the draw of the Chinese Taipei Open, Lin Dan's "affairs" with Malaysian affairs will begin yet again with Roslin as early as in Round 1/32, and Hafiz in the Quarter-Final (if he has recovered).

Interestingly, the unlucky Kuan Beng Hong must face Kendrick Lee in Round 1/32 and then possibly Eric Pang in Round 1/16. He needs to win to build up his already low confidence.

The newly crowned Malaysia Open champion, LCW should have relatively easy times till quarter-final, where Boonsak yet again is scheduled to meet him. After that, its possibly Chen Hong and Lin Dan.

So, next week is still going to be interesting.

taufik isnt that bad.. at least as long as i've seen him he's been relatively polite

Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun are also going to meet Malaysians from Round 1/16 onwards, starting from possibly Tan Bin Shen/Ong Soon Hock, Chew Choon Eng/Hong Chieng Hun, and Gan Teik Chai/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif if they are to reach the final to meet Chan Chong Ming/Koo Kien Keat. Choong/Lee and Mohd Tazari/Lin will not be in Taipei.

LCW vs Lin Dan again? I hope he beat the hell out of him again....

hope zakry n gan gain their revenge on fu n cai

On a more serious note, I would suggest that the organisers do not host the award ceremony immediately after a match because sometimes, emotions run high and these players who psyche themselves alot to play the game might not have cooled down and think straight yet.


Dear Eastdevil,congrats to all ur effort contributing in defending lin dan!!
u might getting tired of defending-defending-defending all anti LD's post...

PEACE!!i'm harmless!!:D :D

Agreed, and somemore it is not the organiser's fault that the player could not control his emotions. A fully trained and best players should have high EQ as well as skills. Obviously LD has not learnt this and he does not deserve to be "No.1".

Do you have high EQ? If you have, how come you are not the number 1 sportsman? What kind of clown would expect a very young man who is very good with badminton to be a saint as well?

If you equate EQ with being deserving of world number 1, sorry that you would be one of the last to deserve it.

He is number 1 because he won more badminton games not because he won more popularity contests. He seems to have bad behaviour today and he must try to improve it but by any accounts, he deserve to be number 1 in badminton.

Popularity and skill are two seperate thing. what kind fo clown would expect popularity to count in world ranking? :D

actually, i'm a LD fan but after what happened today he has dropped a number of places. i'm sure if Yannie saw what happened today she would have felt disappointed by his 'over reaction'

LCW vs Lin Dan again? I hope he beat the hell out of him again....

lcw vs lin dan part 2 in taipei open, i hope lcw will beat lin dan again :D


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Dear Eastdevil,congrats to all ur effort contributing in defending lin dan!!
u might getting tired of defending-defending-defending all anti LD's post...

PEACE!!i'm harmless!!:D :D

If you read carefully my posts, I am not exactly "defending" Lin Dan at all. I just find the mob rage mentality absolutely moronic and will simply make asian badminton fans look stupid.

Let's not forget that recently when one silly danish newspaper published some silly cartoons, a whole big bunch of brainless people demanded death to danes, burn danish flags, boycott danish economy, etc...

Emotional people do not react rationally... Same thing as an emotional sportsman didn't react rationally during some prize ceremony.

lcw vs lin dan part 2 in taipei open, i hope lcw will beat lin dan again :D


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Are the 2 pictures some kind of Spot-The-Difference game? :D

Do you have high EQ? If you have, how come you are not the number 1 sportsman? What kind of clown would expect a very young man who is very good with badminton to be a saint as well?

If you equate EQ with being deserving of world number 1, sorry that you would be one of the last to deserve it.

He is number 1 because he won more badminton games not because he won more popularity contests. He seems to have bad behaviour today and he must try to improve it but by any accounts, he deserve to be number 1 in badminton.

Popularity and skill are two seperate thing. what kind fo clown would expect popularity to count in world ranking? :D

All i am saying is that the world number one should have the best skills AS WELL AS high EQ. That means, having good attitude is equally important as having good skills. Your argument seems to deduce that the games (or generally known as sports) do not care much about attitudes, but just the matter or winning or losing. I agree with you at some point that since this world has become more materialistic, but that's why the sports have to stress more on how the player behaves. Yes popularity and skill are two separate thing, but they are always related, aren't they ?

Are the 2 pictures some kind of Spot-The-Difference game? :D

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no.. sorry my mistake , :D

if u like another fifaworldcup 2006 dekstopwallpaper, this the url: http://www.mota.ru/images.php?path=fifa_world_cup_2006

Cool down guys! we all dont want this thread is locked. After all, the match is over and let us concentrate on the coming matches.

All i am saying is that the world number one should have the best skills AS WELL AS high EQ. That means, having good attitude is equally important as having good skills. Your argument seems to deduce that the games (or generally known as sports) do not care much about attitudes, but just the matter or winning or losing. I agree with you at some point that since this world has become more materialistic, but that's why the sports have to stress more on how the player behaves. Yes popularity and skill are two separate thing, but they are always related, aren't they ?

I am not saying that sportsman should not be nice people. But ultimately, being number 1 in badminton ranking is still purely a badminton matter and whoever can become number 1 deserves it irregardless of his attitude of which we could still criticise. We could condemn his behaviour, but not saying he does not deserve to be number 1 because afterall, he didn't walkover all his matches. :D

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no.. sorry my mistake , :D

if u like another fifaworldcup 2006 dekstopwallpaper, this the url: http://www.mota.ru/images.php?path=fifa_world_cup_2006

Its your fault! You made me stare at the 2 pics for 15 seconds to spot any differnece! Just joking. :D Thanks for sharing.

alright, i read through this and the other thread. while i agree that Lin Dan's behavior is rather unsportsman-like. i also think members here have already expressed their opinion. i want to avoid emotional driven over-reactions. so to let everybody calm down a bit, i am going to temporarily close these two threads.

i hope everybody can understand.