:mad: He is not sporting AT ALL. He take off the silver MEDAL imediately and leave the cheque a side and refuse to wear the soviner cup. U ARE making a lot of Malaysia fans angry. What does this mean?? From what he does bring out the message such as " i am not lose yet, how can i lost to LCW" ...

Forumers, do u angry??

absolutely agree with you

LD is pissed off...at himself,i guess...

the lack of respect shown by LD is a cause for concern in terms of setting an example to younger players, disrespect to different cultures, and not a sign of a 'champion' he is. i do hope that some sort of disciplinary action will be taken.

LD lost it's that simple. he needed only one point to win... it's really sad to see something like this happen :(

Yes, and I wanted to fist him. Ask him to go home and start as a farmer boy.

being peeved off at ones self is not an excuse to disrespect Malaysia's culture. it was a childish act and i was :eek: when i saw what happened

I totally agree, my respect for LD has gone down a few notches now. He has acted like a spoilt kid. Peter Gade, Lee HI, KJ, Taufik... would not have acted like that if they lost fair and square...

LD, grow up!!!!

Somemore, he threw away his racket and received a red card waring from the empire. During the prize ceremony, can u see how LCW feel like don't know what to do.. From LCW face, he seem like want to invite LD to stand together with him.. But, affraid a bit... Do u all observe this??

being peeved off at ones self is not an excuse to disrespect Malaysia's culture. it was a childish act and i was :eek: when i saw what happened

i'm not saying dat his actions r excusable...i agree it's wrong to act like he did..

is ther any bad call againts lin dan ?

is ther any bad call againts lin dan ?

Nope....as far as we can see.

Somemore, he threw away his racket and received a red card waring from the empire. During the prize ceremony, can u see how LCW feel like don't know what to do.. From LCW face, he seem like want to invite LD to stand together with him.. But, affraid a bit... Do u all observe this??
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Nope....as far as we can see.

i c,

lin dan becomes arrogant, somebody has to 'knock' his head,
thanks LCW u did it.
u made a miracle, 14-20 to be 23:21 :D

Somemore, he threw away his racket and received a red card waring from the empire. During the prize ceremony, can u see how LCW feel like don't know what to do.. From LCW face, he seem like want to invite LD to stand together with him.. But, affraid a bit... Do u all observe this??

Hmm..I do notice the red card on the umpire's hands when LCW went to shake his hands at the end of the match. But, I didn't know it was for Lin Dan. I really hope IBF will take note of this. With Punch Gunalan watching the match live...and the fact that IBF's headquarter is now in Malaysia, showing such disrespect in Malaysian soil is certainly a serious matter! I hope Lin Dan gets fined!

simply put, he is a super loser dan haha

i c,

lin dan becomes arrogant, somebody has to 'knock' his head,
thanks LCW u did it.
u made a miracle, 14-20 to be 23:21 :DDon't worry,Taufik is still available for that.

I think there were a couple of very close calls...but one was to his advantage and he got another match point at 21-20. LCW eventually won the match with a close call on a long return to the back of the court. Nevertheless, LCW totally deserves his amazing comeback victory!

Ya.... he is not respecting our malaysia culture also... a great sportman can take win and lose game greatly as there is always someone lose and someone win in a game. No sportmanship shown in him at all. thank for LCW for letting him know that there is always someone can challeng him and china... I m proud of Malaysia performance this round by securing the men single and double title... finally MALAYSIA BOLEHHHHHHHHHHHH..........:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Don't worry,Taufik is still available for that.

too bad lcw lost in io 2006 :D
yeah... i've been waiting taufik vs lcw,

i think taufik stil appreciates his opponent, regardless win or lose

I watched the mtch on RTM1 in S'pore.
I have to agree with most here that LD is not a good eg or ambassadror for badmitnon. He is also extremely disrespectful of the host today. Of course he is upset- he is actually very upset. One can see that he constantly tried to wipe off the tears from his face while standing on the podium (after receiving or rather refusing the cap).
I do hope that the China Badminton Association will eprimand him for this incident or at least come out with some sort of apologies for such unbecoming behaviour.

I agree, Taufilk would never have acted like that.

Anyway, Taufik and LD never got along anyway. Also, when LD beat LCW in AE2006 after a close match, LCW never showed any disrespect to LD.

China players may be powerful and talented, but their attitude leaves a lot to be desired. Also, China will be holding the 2008 olympics. If their athletes cannot embrace the spirit of sportsmanship, and only wants to win at any cost, people will only be disgusted with them. China has to reinvent itself if it wants real respect from people, especially as it is becoming a big player in world affairs.

they feels as badminton superpower

China, despite winning 3 titles , has their fair share of embarrassment in this year Malaysia Open. Chen Hong losing to Boonsak Ponsana, Wang Lin and Xie Xingfang losing to Tracey Hallm (a big :eek: ), Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun losing to Chan Chong Ming/Koo Kien Keat and later also showed some bad sportmanship, and finally Lin Dan losing to Lee Chong Wei after having 8 match points. His complete disrespect tops it off!

Throw racket away - I would not consider that rude at all. Is not targeted as disrespect to other people.

Without shaking hands - We didn't see it on camera so cannot be sure it didn't happen later during the 1000th replays of the same shot. Just when I wanted to see what happens right after LD brought his bag to his coach, its replay and replay again. I really hate the telecast people.

Didn't smile - Although he should smile, but its almost impossible for someone who was 2 points away from winning by a decent margin and yet lost just only minutes ago, to put on a smile right?

Take off medal - Yeah, not very nice. He's probably pissed out of his mind, but still not nice to do that.

Refuse to wear the hat - I absolutely do not blame him at all. No offense to whichever local culture, but... I wouldn't want to be caught on camera wearing that. :D But I do agree he should have declined with a smile (again hard to smile in his situation). But hey, the girl's hat doesn't look as bad!

Considering the stupid circumstances that he let himself lose, I would give him a benefit of doubt for a few days and see more reports on that. I would want to read the reports from China first.

above was snipped from a sister thread...

firstly, i'm a malaysian and i can actually feel for LD. patriotic as i am, i have to agree with most if not all the points given by eastdevil.

putting myself in LD's position,

smile - it'll be almost impossible if i've played a bad match. sportsmanship is about accepting defeat, picking yourself up and learn from it - not putting up a smile even though you're upset

head band esq - i personally don't see it as disrespectful. it's a choice. put it on or not, it should be up to the players and they shouldn't be judged on. imagine if you're a vegetarian but served meat by a delighted host. do you keep your host happy? or do you decline politely?

hand shakes - this is a tough call. do you shake an opponent's hands insincerely (if he felt that way at that time)? or do you choose not to, and stand your ground? it really depends on circumstances. weird enough, i have greater respect for the latter. doing something just because you're expected to and not exactly what you want to is weak and insincere.

i just have a hunch that there are more reasons to why LD acted like he did. and pls don't get me wrong...between the 2 of them, i've always wanted LCW to win the match, and he did it with i quote, *magic*.

Somemore, he threw away his racket and received a red card waring from the empire. During the prize ceremony, can u see how LCW feel like don't know what to do.. From LCW face, he seem like want to invite LD to stand together with him.. But, affraid a bit... Do u all observe this??
LOL MAN that is so true~ I totally agree with u hahahhaa

Hmm..I do notice the red card on the umpire's hands when LCW went to shake his hands at the end of the match. But, I didn't know it was for Lin Dan. I really hope IBF will take note of this. With Punch Gunalan watching the match live...and the fact that IBF's headquarter is now in Malaysia, showing such disrespect in Malaysian soil is certainly a serious matter! I hope Lin Dan gets fined!

Eh, where IBF's headquarters is located and disrespect on malaysian soil should not be related. Don't make these kind of things into political matters. Don't we have enough extremists in this region already?

Somemore, he threw away his racket and received a red card waring from the empire. During the prize ceremony, can u see how LCW feel like don't know what to do.. From LCW face, he seem like want to invite LD to stand together with him.. But, affraid a bit... Do u all observe this??


poor lee chong wei.lin dan just dont appreciate his good intention..

plz,Lin dan be sporting!!it doesnt surprise at all to see the world no.2 can upset the no. 1.....

Eh, where IBF's headquarters is located and disrespect on malaysian soil should not be related. Don't make these kind of things into political matters. Don't we have enough extremists in this region already?

Hey EastDevil, good luck to you on defending for LD. I think you need to stay up the whole night replying to all these hate posts. :p

I am so happy for LCW.

MALAYSIA BOLEH !!!!!! LEE CHONG WEI BOLEH !!!!!!

Good night, everyone. Time to go to sleep and wake up for Brazil/Australia WC match.

I think LD is a bit immature. Removing the medal,throwing racquets and refusing to wear a hat.I dont think it has anything to do with not respecting
people's culture, he could have refused a Yonex hat or cowboy cap.

i think he must really be unhappy to lose, he seemed to me to have given away the last few points, maybe he is protesting against something.

Anyway, let time tell, I dont think it is an issue of disrespect.I know people who flatly refuse to indulge in anything because its against thier religion or customs in Malaysia.

Eh, where IBF's headquarters is located and disrespect on malaysian soil should not be related. Don't make these kind of things into political matters. Don't we have enough extremists in this region already?


no offence,it's really annoy me to see his attitude like that.

poor lee chong wei.lin dan just dont appreciate his good intention..

plz,Lin dan be sporting!!it doesnt surprise at all to see the world no.2 can upset the no. 1.....

You are amazing! How could we be too sure just from interpreting some facial expressions or body language on TV and conclude the exact intentions? Sometimes, TV do not give the true and complete picture. Some benefit of doubt and gathering more reports and information would help us understand why someone did what or if someone actually did what. Reading LCW's facial expression is not easy, you know?

I think LD is a bit immature. Removing the medal,throwing racquets and refusing to wear a hat.I dont think it has anything to do with not respecting
people's culture, he could have refused a Yonex hat or cowboy cap.

i think he must really be unhappy to lose, he seemed to me to have given away the last few points, maybe he is protesting against something.

Anyway, let time tell, I dont think it is an issue of disrespect.I know people who flatly refuse to indulge in anything because its against thier religion or customs in Malaysia.

At his age, he is immature. When you are at his age, are you perfectly mature?

no offence,it's really annoy me to see his attitude like that.

No, no offense. Just let us keep this as just badminton and not get to the nationalistic/etc realms.

yep.. Typical of LD who shows no respect for players nor the officials..
He was extremely cunning and disrespectful during that match.. even decided to take a towel break when leading 21-20 against LCW... which is not allowed....
This thing has been goin on for a while and I hope he change this attitude because if this continues, there wont be room for improvement.. he cannot achieve his dream of olympic or worldchamp..

All credit to LCW, but man i tell u thats one of the most hardcore and exciting 21 point badminton so far...
I thought LCW was a goner but he scored 6 consecutive points and beat LD~
True hero and champion~ CONGRATZZZ LCW~~~~~~~~

yes yes yes i know it isnt easy for me.

i'm sure of LCW's intention.

LCW should get respect from LD

actually he scored 7 points to draw level

Lin Dan ... World Number 1 ... sigh ...
IT MEANS NOTHING WITHOUT SPORTSMANSHIP !

Recently in the Asain Table tennis championships final Chen Qi lost to Wang Hao.

Chen Qi showed his diappointment by throwing away his bat and kicking a courtside chair.

The China TT association gave him ahiding and reminded him that in China's 50 year TT history this has never happened.
Subsequently Chen Qi was sent to the countryside to do one yaer hard labour and had to make several public apologies.

Let's hear it form China, I dont think Li Yong Bo was in Kuching,
I'm sure he would know better than to allow such things to happen.

EastDevil, you are trying too hard...

Recently in the Asain Table tennis championships final Chen Qi lost to Wang Hao.

Chen Qi showed his diappointment by throwing away his bat and kicking a courtside chair.

The China TT association gave him ahiding and reminded him that in China's 50 year TT history this has never happened.
Subsequently Chen Qi was sent to the countryside to do one yaer hard labour and had to make several public apologies.

Let's hear it form China, I dont think Li Yong Bo was in Kuching,
I'm sure he would know better than to allow such things to happen.

Dude, not one year!!! Just one week. After one year, his TT career is over.

Hey EastDevil, good luck to you on defending for LD. I think you need to stay up the whole night replying to all these hate posts. :p

I am so happy for LCW.

MALAYSIA BOLEH !!!!!! LEE CHONG WEI BOLEH !!!!!!

Good night, everyone. Time to go to sleep and wake up for Brazil/Australia WC match.

I am happy for LCW too as well! :D I was almost disappointed when LCW was losing the rubber set.

I defend rational thinking, not a particular player.

At his age, he is immature. When you are at his age, are you perfectly mature?

Hehe..no offence..but i think if it were Taufik today who showed such a bad sportmanship, you will be the first to criticise his attitude.

yep.. Typical of LD who shows no respect for players nor the officials..
He was extremely cunning and disrespectful during that match.. even decided to take a towel break when leading 21-20 against LCW... which is not allowed....
This thing has been goin on for a while and I hope he change this attitude because if this continues, there wont be room for improvement.. he cannot achieve his dream of olympic or worldchamp..

All credit to LCW, but man i tell u thats one of the most hardcore and exciting 21 point badminton so far...
I thought LCW was a goner but he scored 6 consecutive points and beat LD~
True hero and champion~ CONGRATZZZ LCW~~~~~~~~

I thought a lot of players do that towel trick? I notice some famous doubles pair always do that too.

Hehe..no offence..but i think if it were Taufik today who showed such a bad sportmanship, you will be the first to criticise his attitude.

I would criticise his attitude, but I wouldn't drag culture/country and other things of those kind into it. I wouldn't also make it such a big deal.

On the contrary though, I have nothing against Taufik in the first place. I actually wanted to watch him play in SO20006! Grrr... but he didn't play.:( I'm just against the irrational behaviour of Taufik's fans, that's all. :D

I would criticise his attitude, but I wouldn't drag culture/country and other things of those kind into it. I wouldn't also make it such a big deal.

On the contrary though, I have nothing against Taufik in the first place. I actually wanted to watch him play in SO20006! Grrr... but he didn't play.:( I'm just against the irrational behaviour of Taufik's fans, that's all. :D

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

lin dan, is just too fustrated with himself.. lcw does miracles everything he play with LD. alittle of luck here and there.. happy for lcw but disappointed with lin dan's attitude..

LCW eventually won the match with a close call on a long return to the back of the court. Nevertheless, LCW totally d`eserves his amazing comeback victory!

The match point, LD was closely watching the shuttle land... from his expression, I think it was a good call, otherwise he would have protested....

lin dan, is just too fustrated with himself.. lcw does miracles everything he play with LD. alittle of luck here and there.. happy for lcw but disappointed with lin dan's attitude..

i think no one (even taufik) can do a miracle like lcw in 21 rally points system :D

i cant blame lin dan for being angry.. but he shouldn't have acted the way he did.. i mean it was 7 match points for him and he just blew it like that?? i would be angry if i were him.. but he should have controlled himself.. it's not like it was the end of the world or anything.. i pity lcw.. lindan made him feel so bad by doing that.. i dont think it was in his wildest dreams that lcw wld have won it.. lcw didnt believe it either.. and i salute lcw for keeping his cool throughout the last few points.. i would have panicked and it isnt easy to get 7 points in a row against world no.1 ..

but i think lcw and lindan were ok friends.. lindan was saying smth to lcw after lcw missed a tight netball..

lindan shouldnt have done what he did today.. his gesture, taking of the medal and refusing the hat or wadever it was offended the people in the stadium.. the first thing that came into my mind was that he was a sore loser.. and him walking out on the photo taking and throwing his raquet to the wall confirmed it..

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

Oops... didn't know you would notice. ha ha :D

I think PG and KJ have the best sportmanship. I remember PG even congratulated LD and smiled to him once when he lost to LD in a very tight and close match.

Back in 2004 in Olympics TT prize giving, losers Wang Hao & Wang LiQin

refused to smile and flash their medals with Ryu Seung Min.I think they could not accept losing.

No wonder LD never won the IBF player of the year award, its for people

who know how to win and how to lose.

Maybe LD is learning from his overseas Fukien brethen-Kiasu.

I think China has to educate their players to accept defeat sometimes.

lin dan, is just too fustrated with himself.. lcw does miracles everything he play with LD. alittle of luck here and there.. happy for lcw but disappointed with lin dan's attitude..

Yeah, somebody got to give me a lecture on controlling his emotions. I am pretty sure he does not mean to insult anyone but it seems his mind was pretty screwed. I think the coaches should play a larger responsibility in calming their players and reminding them of what they should do during such moments of vulnerability.

Oops... didn't know you would notice. ha ha :D

yeah... i sometimes become irrational :D

I think PG and KJ have the best sportmanship. I remember PG even congratulated LD and smiled to him once when he lost to LD in a very tight and close match.

One incident I encountered with KJ recently at Singapore Open 2006 was that after his match, he was walking past the front row. I requested for his autograph and he said he got to rush for something (I think its to the reporters waiting for him). But a few metres forward, he signed for someone else.

However, after the finals, I approached him again and he signed.

Even when he declined the first time, I didn't suddenly dislike him or hate him or something even though I would have wondered why he declines my request but signs for someone else a few metres away. Sometimes, we should not take things too badly because things might not always be exactly what we think it is.

One incident I encountered with KJ recently at Singapore Open 2006 was that after his match, he was walking past the front row. I requested for his autograph and he said he got to rush for something (I think its to the reporters waiting for him). But a few metres forward, he signed for someone else.

However, after the finals, I approached him again and he signed.

Even when he declined the first time, I didn't suddenly dislike him or hate him or something even though I would have wondered why he declines my request but signs for someone else a few metres away. Sometimes, we should not take things too badly because things might not always be exactly what we think it is.

KJ's face expression is horrible :D

i remember when KJ lost to taufik badly in wc 2005, he shook taufik hands with a hostile face :D

I thought a lot of players do that towel trick? I notice some famous doubles pair always do that too.
ya especially chan chong ming too....
but LD particullarly really abuse it at the right time.. especially the tightest points.. and this time he did it when he is leading and 1 point away from match point.. how unfair it is for LCW
Anyway I can understand racket throwing thing which is common, but refusing to accept gift from the host and takin off his silver medal thats a sign of sore loser who cannot accept defeat, I was shocked and felt kinda awkward watching that shameful moment
He hope he humble himself down in the future and become like Taufik:o

alright, i read through this and the other thread. while i agree that Lin Dan's behavior is rather unsportsman-like. i also think members here have already expressed their opinion. i want to avoid emotional driven over-reactions. so to let everybody calm down a bit, i am going to temporarily close these two threads.