View Full Version : Malaysia Open 2006 - LCW's Winning Point AVI
Gessle 06-18-2006, 07:27 AM Hi all.
No need to tell u what happened coz I can c comments have been posted for LD unsporting behaviour and disrespectful manner. He was booed by the audience.
Here is the avi - LCW's winning point I captured when I was in the stadium. And of course - the red-carded event. Sorry for the 'unstable' capture. :(
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vghpfa
Anyway feel happy for LCW. This MO2006 MS Final will be the greatest comeback in 21-point rally system for years to come.
taufik-ist 06-18-2006, 07:31 AM Hi all.
No need to tell u what happened coz I can 2 threads have been posted for LD unsporting behaviour and disrespectful manner. He was booed by the audience.
Here is the avi - LCW's winning point I captured when I was in the stadium. And of course - the red-carded event. Sorry for the 'unstable' capture. :(
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vghpfa
Anyway feel happy for LCW. This MO2006 MS Final will be the greatest comeback in 21-point rally system for years to come.
thanks... :D
i'm expecting the full match video
Gessle 06-18-2006, 07:33 AM Well do hope someone capture and share the full match video
thanks... :D
i'm expecting the full match video
Wildstone 06-18-2006, 07:38 AM thanks for that Gessie, saw the racquet kicking event loud and clear ...
LD should download the clip when he gets back to his hotel, you know , just for a record.
badMania 06-18-2006, 07:50 AM How come I can't download the clip?
hcyong 06-18-2006, 07:55 AM Lin Dan did walk towards LCW, but obviously LCW was not ready because he was still overcome by emotion over his win. So, Lin Dan just let him be, let him celebrate, no big deal.
As for Lin Dan kicking his racquet, well he was just disgusted with himself. No malice towards anyone else.
From this clip, that's what I gather. I did not watch the game (as I was and still am working), so I do not know the rest.
EastDevil 06-18-2006, 07:56 AM From the video, Lin Dan did approach the net to shake hands but LCW was busy celebrating so Lin Dan shock hands with the officials, packed up and left.
hcyong 06-18-2006, 07:56 AM How come I can't download the clip?
There's a real small link at the bottom there. Took me some time to figure it our too.
hcyong 06-18-2006, 07:58 AM After shaking hands with the umpire, LCW looked at LD, intending to shake hands I suppose, but Lin Dan was already in the process of leaving.
taufik-ist 06-18-2006, 07:59 AM How come I can't download the clip?
i have just download it :D
refresh the page to get a new video link
elwin81 06-18-2006, 08:27 AM Thanks to Gessle for providing this video clips as I missed the 3rd set just now.
Is there anyone got any off court pics after the match or any pics during the prize giving ceremony?
valen 06-18-2006, 09:22 AM This has to be the best match I have seen in years....especially in the new system which I am not quite sure yet. But Lin Dan has himself to blame. He was just 1 point from victory but he blew it away and let LCW crawl from 13-20 to 23-21. Phew...and Hasbullah Awang kept on saying magic , magic...from LCW...haha...really takes strong mental focus to come back from so far back to victory! Malaysia Boleh!
wl2172 06-18-2006, 09:37 AM Yes, LCW has shown great mentality to take this title. I just hope his spirit will be as strong in WC2006 Madrid.
LCW can be really good if he stays calm, but if he gets over excited, he will start making loads of mistakes.
zqloy 06-18-2006, 09:54 AM I think this classic match will definitely shut the mouths of the ones who say LCW has weak mental!
He hv really strong mental instead to steal 8 match points from LD!!
valen 06-18-2006, 09:56 AM i have just download it :D
refresh the page to get a new video link
I downloaded it but can hear only the sound and noise from the background. But no pictures at all. How come?
Wildstone 06-18-2006, 12:47 PM download k-lite media codec, install it and then play the video again.
go to google and search for "k-lite codec"
EastDevil 06-18-2006, 01:05 PM I think this classic match will definitely shut the mouths of the ones who say LCW has weak mental!
He hv really strong mental instead to steal 8 match points from LD!!
LCW has weak mental.
After winning the first game with convincing display, he lost his plot in the second and was almost losing the rubber set by a significant margin. It is good that he received a sudden boost and fought back to win whether it is under the home crowd urging or not.
The dumb ones will be overwelmed by the 8-point come back and think that mental strength is all about that moment of bells and whistles. The true picture is that LCW still suffers from the same old problem of not being able to hold onto his early focus and dominance when he started well. It is not very different from the world championships when he could not hold onto his dominance. He won this time, which I am glad, but the old problem is still not eliminated yet.
I believe his coach Li Mao is not like you at all. He will probably disregard the 8-point sensation and instead work hard with LCW on improving his concentration capability in the bigger picture.
virusvoodoo 06-18-2006, 01:13 PM LCW has weak mental.
After winning the first game with convincing display, he lost his plot in the second and was almost losing the rubber set by a significant margin. It is good that he received a sudden boost and fought back to win whether it is under the home crowd urging or not.
The dumb ones will be overwelmed by the 8-point come back and think that mental strength is all about that moment of bells and whistles. The true picture is that LCW still suffers from the same old problem of not being able to hold onto his early focus and dominance when he started well. It is not very different from the world championships when he could not hold onto his dominance. He won this time, which I am glad, but the old problem is still not eliminated yet.
See...now you are just being hostle by calling people name. 8 points may not seem to be alot during a game against the world #1 player @ 14-20 with the 21-point scoring system, it is pretty big. I mean up 19, if he had made any mistakes it would have been over so I'd say he did well.
I still think that LCW need to beat LD in other tournaments as evidence/support for claim of strong mentality but he held it together well this year. But you are on the right track with keep on improving and never be satisfied.
cooler 06-18-2006, 01:27 PM me late to this party post:D
regarding LD's behavior, one has to remember last year MO.
LD lost 2 games to LCW due to result of 2 bad line calls. Yes, a bad line call shouldn't statistically affect the outcome but emotionally it wrecked LD.
In those 2 games, LD were ahead in points while LCW was ready to give up. The bad line calls change the emotional tides from despair to energized for lcw and reverse for LD. I think LD was pissed because of memory flashback, even though this last few line calls were not as bad.
Plus that malaysian fans were cheering LCW too loud, LOL
EastDevil 06-18-2006, 01:30 PM See...now you are just being hostle by calling people name. 8 points may not seem to be alot during a game against the world #1 player @ 14-20 with the 21-point scoring system, it is pretty big. I mean up 19, if he had made any mistakes it would have been over so I'd say he did well.
I still think that LCW need to beat LD in other tournaments as evidence/support for claim of strong mentality but he held it together well this year.
I didn't say LCW did badly, I am saying he still has a very big mental issue to fix. It is easy to think of something sensational and lose the big picture. No matter how pretty that was, such sudden bursts does not happen all the time. It will not be good for LCW's game if he simply lose his grip on the match too often and hope to get saved by such last minute "mental strength". I like LCW very much but I think he would have difficulty hanging as world number 1 if he does not solve this problem. Unless he think he can do an 8-point chase while his opponents make a massive slip everytime.
Just look at his performance in the 2nd and 3rd set and you will understand. I was so disappointed in front of the TV that he keep letting it slip during the last 2 sets. I almost wanted to chew on my NS8000!
Okay, perhaps I used the wrong term to describe some people.
Oh man, picking on LCW, the one who won the title, for mentally not tough seem unreal. Isn't it Lin Dan should be one who has mental toughness problem in this case? Regardless, at least we can say Lee Chong Wei is in the same league as Lin Dan which makes the coming World Championship more interesting.(Actually the coming Taipei Open also very interesting)
No reason to find excuse for Lin Dan as he has poor sportmanship all along from refusing to change shuttles to current unpleasant events. We all know he's a great player but not very well like by many, simple as that. And this is not a popular contest, if Wong Choon Hann can win as many titles as Lin Dan then I don't mind Chonn Hann being "unsportmanship" either :-) To be arrogant, you need to win enough and Lin Dan has so he entitles(though unnecessary)
The issue is Lin Dan future after his badminton career is over, making so many enemies will not help. Why Zhao Jianhua is so pupolar even after his badminton career? Simple, Jianhua is well like by many and acted very professional, lost or won on court. So was Rexy(Malaysia MD coach hired by his rival Yap Kim Hock), Park Jobong, Morten Frost. I know Choon Hann will do well even after his badminton career as he is very well like by many, including me obviously :-)
Just my opinion.
EastDevil 06-18-2006, 02:06 PM Oh man, picking on LCW, the one who won the title, for mentally not tough seem unreal. Isn't it Lin Dan should be one who has mental toughness problem in this case? Regardless, at least we can say Lee Chong Wei is in the same league as Lin Dan which makes the coming World Championship more interesting.(Actually the coming Taipei Open also very interesting)
No reason to find excuse for Lin Dan as he has poor sportmanship all along from refusing to change shuttles to current unpleasant events. We all know he's a great player but not very well like by many, simple as that. And this is not a popular contest, if Wong Choon Hann can win as many titles as Lin Dan then I don't mind Chonn Hann being "unsportmanship" either :-) To be arrogant, you need to win enough and Lin Dan has so he entitles(though unnecessary)
The issue is Lin Dan future after his badminton career is over, making so many enemies will not help. Why Zhao Jianhua is so pupolar even after his badminton career? Simple, Jianhua is well like by many and acted very professional, lost or won on court. So was Rexy(Malaysia MD coach hired by his rival Yap Kim Hock), Park Jobong, Morten Frost. I know Choon Hann will do well even after his badminton career as he is very well like by many, including me obviously :-)
Just my opinion.
Err... I think refusing to change shuttles is not poor sportsmanship.
Err... I think whether a player is well-liked or not does not mean he will do well or do badly after he retires. A very well-liked player doesn't necessarily can coach or run a business.
Err... I don't know if Lin Dan will become a coach in the future or not. But even if he does, there's enough vacancies in China for that. Afterall, the best chinese coaches would probably prefer to coach in China in the abscence of other reasons.
wl2172 06-18-2006, 02:21 PM LCW has weak mental.
After winning the first game with convincing display, he lost his plot in the second and was almost losing the rubber set by a significant margin. It is good that he received a sudden boost and fought back to win whether it is under the home crowd urging or not.
The dumb ones will be overwelmed by the 8-point come back and think that mental strength is all about that moment of bells and whistles. The true picture is that LCW still suffers from the same old problem of not being able to hold onto his early focus and dominance when he started well. It is not very different from the world championships when he could not hold onto his dominance. He won this time, which I am glad, but the old problem is still not eliminated yet.
I believe his coach Li Mao is not like you at all. He will probably disregard the 8-point sensation and instead work hard with LCW on improving his concentration capability in the bigger picture.
Actually I have to agree with East here, although LCW did show great character to hang on and win at the end, the points made above in quotes are absolutely spot on. If you plot the curve of *consistency versus time of play, you will see that CW has more peaks and troughs compared to LD in general. However, If LCW can even out that curve, he will be on par with LD or maybe even better.
However, EastDevil, you can put your points across in more diplomatic ways instead of making too many personal remarks about other people's opinion. A little bit of diplomacy on your part will certainly make discussions on this forum much more enjoyable for everyone.
*consistency = number of unforced errors/minute
EastDevil 06-18-2006, 02:57 PM Actually I have to agree with East here, although LCW did show great character to hang on and win at the end, the points made above in quotes are absolutely spot on. If you plot the curve of *consistency versus time of play, you will see that CW has more peaks and troughs compared to LD in general. However, If LCW can even out that curve, he will be on par with LD or maybe even better.
However, EastDevil, you can put your points across in more diplomatic ways instead of making too many personal remarks about other people's opinion. A little bit of diplomacy on your part will certainly make discussions on this forum much more enjoyable for everyone.
*consistency = number of unforced errors/minute
Please don't look at it using such formulaic stuff... I hate maths. :D
Regarding the remarks, I caught the Lin Dan virus of unsportsmanship behaviour. :D On a serious note, I still don't think LD bahaved that badly today to warrant those harsh reactions.
ctjcad 06-18-2006, 03:54 PM Regarding the remarks, I caught the Lin Dan virus of unsportsmanship behaviour. :D On a serious note, I still don't think LD bahaved that badly today to warrant those harsh reactions.
EastDevil, i just finished reading the 2 or 3 threads which are currently being locked up...sigh, boy, you sure did kept up your resiliencies in those threads.:p I agree with Kwun locking it up for the time being, as a few of the posts were getting quite a bit emotional. I was going to make a quick respond in one of them cos i noticed you mentioned something abt your experience in trying to get KJ's autograph in the SO. Well, there were similar incidents also which were experienced by a few BCers in last yr's World Championship with a few of the players(there's a thread abt it also, but don't forgot which one).
Anyways, regarding the incident of LD's prize ceremony, for whatever unknown reason(s), unfortunately it happened but let's just move on. Yah, i agree that LD shouldn't behave like that for whatever reasons(even if it wasn't in front of the Malaysian fans or even if Mr. Gunalan was there), but i also agree that he shouldn't get those "harsh" reactions; he's human afterall. Probably the person who's "affected" the most by this is XXF.:rolleyes: :o
My point is, eventhough they're both separate/different incidents, the incident you had with KJ could be somewhat related to what happened with LD's prize ceremony incident. As we don't know what is causing him to behave like that. We, as fans, can only assume so much, thus we can't judge or assume such player(s) is such and such after such encounter..:p
But hopefully and looking fw in the upcoming Chinese Taipei Open, if and when LD and LCW meet again, win or lose, LD can "redeem" himself by showing some good sportsmanship..:) :cool:
If LinDan win in CT, definately he is going to show some sportmanship. However if he Lose to LCW.. i hope he will redeem himself. Anyway Lindan is human. I do agree with you that the person who's affected the most is XXF. I'm sure she also don't know where to put her face after seeing her bf's reaction. Anyway enuff of Lindan issues. He might not fren me after reading my responds. Heheh
yannie 06-18-2006, 06:44 PM Thank you, Gessle.
From the video, it seems like Lin Dan actually WANTS to shake hands with LCW, but LCW was still happily celebrating his victory at that time!
He actually wants to shake hands with LCW. Even at the podium and before walking to the podium, he didnt acknowledge LCW. He must be feeling sad. I think this is LinDan's worst lost.
BadFever 06-18-2006, 08:01 PM Can't fully blame LD. He is like 99.99% win for sure in the NSS and miracle just happened at that moment to LCW. LCW just played a perfect 9 points game. LCW must have the greatest feeling right now. I think this 'High' will last him at least a few days. :D
This is the result of pushing the "feeling of wanting to win" to the Extreme. If LD is there to shake hands with LCW, that's good enough. IMHO, LYB should take control of the situation right away and calm LD down. Where is he when this happened. :confused: :confused:
zqloy 06-18-2006, 08:04 PM The dumb ones will be overwelmed by the 8-point come back and think that mental strength is all about that moment of bells and whistles. The true picture is that LCW still suffers from the same old problem of not being able to hold onto his early focus and dominance when he started well. It is not very different from the world championships when he could not hold onto his dominance. He won this time, which I am glad, but the old problem is still not eliminated yet.
I believe his coach Li Mao is not like you at all. He will probably disregard the 8-point sensation and instead work hard with LCW on improving his concentration capability in the bigger picture.
Hey there is no need to be rude. Im just expressing my thoughts juz like everybody else....
The fact is it is normal in a game to be catched up 5/6 points during the game (even LD got catch up by 6/7 points by LCW in the 1st set), but 8 MATCH points??!! Come on! That really requires great mental strength to do that! Even in the old scoring its quite difficult and now in the new scoring system can say its quite impposible. LD couldnt take the game in 8 match points, he is the one with weak mental. For eg, last years World Championship and MO Final he does display bad fighting spirit and looks like he had redi gave up the game.... now this is weak mental strength.....:cool:
All4Baddy 06-18-2006, 08:09 PM I dont think Lindan has a weak mental. Just that LCW played really well. Lin Dan just lost his composure after that.
sshuang90 06-18-2006, 08:36 PM Before watching this video clip, I was almost convinced by many posts that LD was being very disrespectful in the final, however, here I just saw a depressed LD in the video. I'd agree with someone that he looked just angry with himself as he kicked the racquet. And he did approach the net to shake hands with LCW but just failed to wait for LCW finishing his celebration. LD did not behave gracefully but not disrespectfully either. He seemed even quite calm.
streamyx 06-18-2006, 08:55 PM Ok, lets said LD do have the intention to approach to shake hand with LCW and i have no offence on this.
But,how do u explain that he take away his silver medal and cheque imediately and refuse to wear warror hat??
zqloy 06-18-2006, 09:05 PM Ok, lets said LD do have the intention to approach to shake hand with LCW and i have no offence on this.
But,how do u explain that he take away his silver medal and cheque imediately and refuse to wear warror hat??
I think some even saw him threw the cheque plate on the floor afterwards.. :mad:
hcyong 06-18-2006, 09:12 PM LCW has weak mental.
After winning the first game with convincing display, he lost his plot in the second and was almost losing the rubber set by a significant margin. It is good that he received a sudden boost and fought back to win whether it is under the home crowd urging or not.
The dumb ones will be overwelmed by the 8-point come back and think that mental strength is all about that moment of bells and whistles. The true picture is that LCW still suffers from the same old problem of not being able to hold onto his early focus and dominance when he started well. It is not very different from the world championships when he could not hold onto his dominance. He won this time, which I am glad, but the old problem is still not eliminated yet.
I believe his coach Li Mao is not like you at all. He will probably disregard the 8-point sensation and instead work hard with LCW on improving his concentration capability in the bigger picture.
Dude, are you a lawyer? You sure can spin things. LCW's fans looked at the positive (coming back from far behind to win) while neglecting the negative (letting the opponent get such a huge lead). Meanwhile, you turned 180 degrees and looked only on the negative.
If this match turned out exactly opposite, ie. it was Lin Dan who did the coming back, I think people will say that Lin Dan played it cool and had great mental strength while LCW fans will lament his (LCW) weak mental strength.
For me, both Lin Dan and LCW showed frailty and both also showed good mental toughness and fighting spirit.
All4Baddy 06-18-2006, 09:14 PM Poor Lindan... never ending criticism. Give him a break. Not everyone is perfect.
streamyx 06-18-2006, 09:41 PM LCW has weak mental.
After winning the first game with convincing display, he lost his plot in the second and was almost losing the rubber set by a significant margin. It is good that he received a sudden boost and fought back to win whether it is under the home crowd urging or not.
The dumb ones will be overwelmed by the 8-point come back and think that mental strength is all about that moment of bells and whistles. The true picture is that LCW still suffers from the same old problem of not being able to hold onto his early focus and dominance when he started well. It is not very different from the world championships when he could not hold onto his dominance. He won this time, which I am glad, but the old problem is still not eliminated yet.
I believe his coach Li Mao is not like you at all. He will probably disregard the 8-point sensation and instead work hard with LCW on improving his concentration capability in the bigger picture.
I think u had wrongly place the "WEAK MENTAL" & "THE DUMB ONES" on the wrong player. LD should entitle for this instead of LCW. A weak mental huh in such a deciding game and drop 8 points behind can COME BACK thus winning the match??? Why i said LD is entitle for what u claim a WEAK & THE DUMB, because he feel nervous and panic when he see LCW craw back...
LD should go and learn how to handle presure and mental strenght !!!!
zqloy 06-18-2006, 09:55 PM I think u had wrongly place the "WEAK MENTAL" & "THE DUMB ONES" on the wrong player. LD should entitle for this instead of LCW. A weak mental huh in such a deciding game and drop 8 points behind can COME BACK thus winning the match??? Why i said LD is entitle for what u claim a WEAK & THE DUMB, because he feel nervous and panic when he see LCW craw back...
LD should go and learn how to handle presure and mental strenght !!!!
Agree. Moreover during that time its LCW who got the massive pressure in 8 match points of LD. One mistake and its gone.... but he can still bear the pressure and still chase point by point....he should get all the priase for tat... :cool:
dropshot 06-18-2006, 10:09 PM Stole 8 match points from the world no.1 is almost godlike. Only the not so smart ones would deny that. Well, we all have our moments, incl CW & LD. We are only human. Just enjoy the game....;)
EastDevil 06-19-2006, 01:24 AM EastDevil, i just finished reading the 2 or 3 threads which are currently being locked up...sigh, boy, you sure did kept up your resiliencies in those threads.:p I agree with Kwun locking it up for the time being, as a few of the posts were getting quite a bit emotional. I was going to make a quick respond in one of them cos i noticed you mentioned something abt your experience in trying to get KJ's autograph in the SO. Well, there were similar incidents also which were experienced by a few BCers in last yr's World Championship with a few of the players(there's a thread abt it also, but don't forgot which one).
Anyways, regarding the incident of LD's prize ceremony, for whatever unknown reason(s), unfortunately it happened but let's just move on. Yah, i agree that LD shouldn't behave like that for whatever reasons(even if it wasn't in front of the Malaysian fans or even if Mr. Gunalan was there), but i also agree that he shouldn't get those "harsh" reactions; he's human afterall. Probably the person who's "affected" the most by this is XXF.:rolleyes: :o
My point is, eventhough they're both separate/different incidents, the incident you had with KJ could be somewhat related to what happened with LD's prize ceremony incident. As we don't know what is causing him to behave like that. We, as fans, can only assume so much, thus we can't judge or assume such player(s) is such and such after such encounter..:p
But hopefully and looking fw in the upcoming Chinese Taipei Open, if and when LD and LCW meet again, win or lose, LD can "redeem" himself by showing some good sportsmanship..:) :cool:
That's why when I quoted KJ's incident, I said I don't blame him or something. I am sure he has valid reasons and furthermore, they can get a little disoriented right after a match as well. All we fans need to do is to try to approach them again for the autograph at a better time. :D
EastDevil 06-19-2006, 01:35 AM I think some even saw him threw the cheque plate on the floor afterwards.. :mad:
You think? So its a fact now? :(
Before this video, people THOUGHT Lin Dan didn't want to shake hands.
EastDevil 06-19-2006, 01:41 AM Hey there is no need to be rude. Im just expressing my thoughts juz like everybody else....
The fact is it is normal in a game to be catched up 5/6 points during the game (even LD got catch up by 6/7 points by LCW in the 1st set), but 8 MATCH points??!! Come on! That really requires great mental strength to do that! Even in the old scoring its quite difficult and now in the new scoring system can say its quite impposible. LD couldnt take the game in 8 match points, he is the one with weak mental. For eg, last years World Championship and MO Final he does display bad fighting spirit and looks like he had redi gave up the game.... now this is weak mental strength.....:cool:
There, you still don't get the picture. Cheering over a short burst of mental strength does not solve the important problem LCW has and that is holding on to his lead and dominance early. I believe LCW will work towards solving that and he probably will not let himself get carried away by a short sensation and forget the important flaws that needs fixing like some of his fans.
zqloy 06-19-2006, 01:43 AM You think? So its a fact now? :(
Before this video, people THOUGHT Lin Dan didn't want to shake hands.
Did i say i saw it with my own eyes? Some fans in other forums which was actually in the stadium saw tat. So, satisfied? :cool:
And there is another thing, its the fact tat he doesnt really wanna shake hand and acknowledge his opponent after the match. Do u remember LCW doing the anything like him during AE? LD was celebrating away with his coach after winning, LCW din walk away but wait there patiently for a hand shake. Now this is wat called sportsmanship.
EastDevil 06-19-2006, 01:44 AM Dude, are you a lawyer? You sure can spin things. LCW's fans looked at the positive (coming back from far behind to win) while neglecting the negative (letting the opponent get such a huge lead). Meanwhile, you turned 180 degrees and looked only on the negative.
If this match turned out exactly opposite, ie. it was Lin Dan who did the coming back, I think people will say that Lin Dan played it cool and had great mental strength while LCW fans will lament his (LCW) weak mental strength.
For me, both Lin Dan and LCW showed frailty and both also showed good mental toughness and fighting spirit.
You think I can be a lawyer? :D
I think Lin Dan made a massive slip and he tend to have a fluctuating form. And I'm a LCW fan.
ctjcad 06-19-2006, 02:16 AM ..sigh, almost wanting to say pffftt to this whole banter...hehe:p :) C'mon guys, the MO is over...Next tournament, Chinese Taipei, is coming up and currently playing. Let's not ruin the new tournament over the recently ended MO and its controversies..
Let's not continue and get this thread locked up again-Time to move on and end this banter...cool?!?!...;) :) :cool:
X Ball 06-19-2006, 02:30 AM ..sigh, almost wanting to say pffftt to this whole banter...hehe:p :) C'mon guys, the MO is over...Next tournament, Chinese Taipei, is coming up and currently playing. Let's not ruin the new tournament over the recently ended MO and its controversies..
Let's not continue and get this thread locked up again-Time to move on and end this banter...cool?!?!...;) :) :cool:
Hey man, it is like the flu. After you have conquered it, there is still the little complaints, e.g. the coughing, the recovery of the muscles, etc. We need the time to get over it.:mad:
badMania 06-19-2006, 04:42 AM Wow...kinda unexpected that the incidents in the Malaysia Open Final are bringing a lot of reactions from the BC members here...even those "passive" members. Now, to quote the official match report from the IBF website, written by Raphael Sachetat:
"Lin Dan got a double booing after he kicked his racket in frustration right after match point, and then refused to wear the traditional hat, resembling Sarawakians cultural headdress, worn by the players at the Podium.......In spite of Lin Dan's bad temper -- which had been added to Cai Yun's reprehensive behavior when he didn't shake hand with Chan and Koo the previous evening...."
virusvoodoo 06-19-2006, 04:45 AM Wow...kinda unexpected that the incidents in the Malaysia Open Final are bringing a lot of reactions from the BC members here...even those "passive" members. Now, to quote the official match report from the IBF website, written by Raphael Sachetat:
"Lin Dan got a double booing after he kicked his racket in frustration right after match point, and then refused to wear the traditional hat, resembling Sarawakians cultural headdress, worn by the players at the Podium.......In spite of Lin Dan's bad temper -- which had been added to Cai Yun's reprehensive behavior when he didn't shake hand with Chan and Koo the previous evening...."
Wow, now Cai Yun as well. Hmm, maybe the Chinese despite the Malaysians more so than other players?
hara^kazuko 06-19-2006, 05:13 AM Please don't look at it using such formulaic stuff... I hate maths. :D
Regarding the remarks, I caught the Lin Dan virus of unsportsmanship behaviour. :D On a serious note, I still don't think LD bahaved that badly today to warrant those harsh reactions.
I still dont think you get the point that refusing the ceremonial hat was a very very rude thing to do
I know it has been real hard for LD, but something has to be done after tossing the cheque n refusing the hat, Make a statement that u werent to mean like dat is enough for me...
With our Sarawakians ladies and all those cultural stuff.... Those are amazing cultures... Refusing the hat means u do not accept Malaysian culture..
It has insulted the Malaysians... terribly... I feel disgusted.. Probably u wont feel that way, but im telling you.. it's an disgusting action...
I saw today's newspaper... Lin Dan had actually thrown the mock cheque... SO it was a fact..
And so the unwilling handshake from LD, it was also stated in today's newspaper..
Are these not bad behaviours? U always try to turn things up ...
The 8 points turning back needs A LOT of mental strength... I dont even think LD can do dat.. So it's unfair to refer LCW as WEAK MENTAL...
Wow...kinda unexpected that the incidents in the Malaysia Open Final are bringing a lot of reactions from the BC members here...even those "passive" members. Now, to quote the official match report from the IBF website, written by Raphael Sachetat:
"Lin Dan got a double booing after he kicked his racket in frustration right after match point, and then refused to wear the traditional hat, resembling Sarawakians cultural headdress, worn by the players at the Podium.......In spite of Lin Dan's bad temper -- which had been added to Cai Yun's reprehensive behavior when he didn't shake hand with Chan and Koo the previous evening...."
interesting. as i know Raphy is not in MAS, he told me on IM that he went home after Singapore. MO was covered by someone else. so either this someone else wrote the report, or Raphy heard the incident from others.
yannie 06-19-2006, 10:13 AM interesting. as i know Raphy is not in MAS. MO was covered by someone else. so either this someone else wrote the report, or Raphy heard the incident from others.
He sent a photographer to MO only, but the article is written by him.
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