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X Ball
06-19-2006, 12:01 AM
I think LCW is proving that he can call on his game when he wants to. To come from 8 points down to achieve success is a monumental task.

How did he do in this tournament ? Superb ! Absolutely one of the best tournaments for him - climaxing in the final with a 'come from behind' is the most satisfying for both him and the fans.

I think he must have conquered his 'fear' of playing Lin Dan. From now onwards, I think the opposite would be true -- Lin Dan would probably have apprehension playing LCW. There will be the psychological 'fear' barrier for him --- if LCW starts to play great, Lin Dan may capitulate because he may remember this day when LCW overcame him (and Admin, please do not edit !!! This is fair comment!).

Simp84
06-19-2006, 12:39 AM
I think LCW is proving that he can call on his game when he wants to. To come from 8 points down to achieve success is a monumental task.

How did he do in this tournament ? Superb ! Absolutely one of the best tournaments for him - climaxing in the final with a 'come from behind' is the most satisfying for both him and the fans.

I think he must have conquered his 'fear' of playing Lin Dan. From now onwards, I think the opposite would be true -- Lin Dan would probably have apprehension playing LCW. There will be the psychological 'fear' barrier for him --- if LCW starts to play great, Lin Dan may capitulate because he may remember this day when LCW overcame him (and Admin, please do not edit !!! This is fair comment!). yes agree.. this is his greatest triumph.. saving 8 game points to win it...
However I disagree with this "conquered his fear" of LD.. LCW never feared LD.. in fact I doubt he feared any players.. the problem with LCW's fast and high pace game is that he is prone to make simple unforced errors...
And I believe yesterday's match was not his best as he made many unforce errors.. imagine he is able to sustain the sort of performance like the last 8 points in future tournament (ie. no silly unforce errors..), he will be unstopable..
Nevertheless.. he has made us proud... with his hardworking and humble attitude.. I hope he can excel even greater and achieve his dream of world #1!! :)

hcyong
06-19-2006, 01:03 AM
But you must also factor in the fact that LCW only seems to give LD trouble when the match is played on his homeground.

zqloy
06-19-2006, 01:05 AM
But you must also factor in the fact that LCW only seems to give LD trouble when the match is played on his homeground.

They match is always close. Remember the All England semifinals match? ;)

X Ball
06-19-2006, 01:20 AM
But you must also factor in the fact that LCW only seems to give LD trouble when the match is played on his homeground.

Not really. In the All-England, they were neck to neck (3 games) and also in the TC.

It is hard to play Lin Dan of course coz he is good. But each time they play (and each time LCW wins), LCW will get to know Lin Dan's game better.

Something happened last night when LCW pulled back 8 points. As I said earlier (and ADMIN edited), Lin Dan froze ('paralysed'). I think LCW hit a purple patch (every shot was a winner). There was a lot of passion and speed put to his shots, he basically controlled the game.

You would want to know why he could not have done that before in the past tournaments. Well, as I said, he could be getting nearer to moving ahead of Lin Dan. He needs to focus and concentrate (I conjecture he is seeing a psychologist to help him do that the way he played in this MO).

This is exciting times for Malaysia if Chong Wei has now found his touch against Lin Dan. Maybe in the coming Chinese Taiwan Open, LCW will prove my comments true.

zqloy
06-19-2006, 01:34 AM
Not really. In the All-England, they were neck to neck (3 games) and also in the TC.



Its Peter Gade he actually played in TC not LD :p

X Ball
06-19-2006, 01:39 AM
Its Peter Gade he actually played in TC not LD :p

Oops....sssssshhh.

EastDevil
06-19-2006, 01:48 AM
Oops....sssssshhh.

Ah ha! :cool:

More courtside pictures please...

X Ball
06-19-2006, 01:57 AM
Whilst LCW and Malaysians come up winners, the softer side to this is KBH is down with knee problems, joining Hafiz seeking medical assistance.

Who else is in the wings to accompany LCW on the international scene ? Did we spot any players coming up (apart from doubles) ? I must say there would be a lot of LCW 'lookalikes' soon(remember Bruce Lee --- and how many people acted like they were Bruce Lee after watching his movies). Well I hope with LCW's win, it would spur a lot of young guys to emulate him too.

Attack LCWs!!!!

cooler
06-19-2006, 02:13 AM
i think LD fear the malaysian crowd and line judges more than LCW:p
LD may or may not beat lcw all the time but line judges can LOL

hcyong
06-19-2006, 02:14 AM
Actually, I prefer to have LCW perfectly healthy and both Hafiz and KBH injured, than the other way round (if we can't have all 3 in good health, that is)

hara^kazuko
06-19-2006, 06:26 AM
Well, next year WC will be held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia...

I want to see how Chinese players cope with our Malaysian crowd then..

by the way, KL is a nice place to visit, Dont miss the food here when you come here to watch WC next year... Bak Kut Teh is among the best!

Bbn
06-19-2006, 09:00 AM
i think LD fear the malaysian crowd and line judges more than LCW:p
LD may or may not beat lcw all the time but line judges can LOL

In this game there were no bad calls, in fact some went against LCW.

Maybe China players feel that they dont get a fair chance in Msia based on

2005 MO.that's why the cold behaviour.

Maybe LD being World No.1 could not accept losing when holding 7 match points.

Or maybe china players are so proud they cant stand losing to overseas Chinese,I remember how insulted and humiliated England feels if they lose to Wales or Scotland in football.

Peter5124
06-19-2006, 09:36 AM
LCW is very humble person...I like this kind of attitude. Not like LD. Too arrogant. He has been winning too much.

X Ball
06-19-2006, 08:55 PM
LCW is very humble person...I like this kind of attitude. Not like LD. Too arrogant. He has been winning too much.

He is really a very nice guy --- you can see every time he shakes hand he puts on this smile to say kind condolence to the loser. It is really magnanimous of him.

Malaysianfan
06-20-2006, 12:20 AM
yes agree.. this is his greatest triumph.. saving 8 game points to win it...
However I disagree with this "conquered his fear" of LD.. LCW never feared LD.. in fact I doubt he feared any players.. the problem with LCW's fast and high pace game is that he is prone to make simple unforced errors...
And I believe yesterday's match was not his best as he made many unforce errors.. imagine he is able to sustain the sort of performance like the last 8 points in future tournament (ie. no silly unforce errors..), he will be unstopable..
Nevertheless.. he has made us proud... with his hardworking and humble attitude.. I hope he can excel even greater and achieve his dream of world #1!! :)

Yap, agree with you. I have watched him playing in this new scoring system and i think that he tends to make more unforced errors compared to the others. This is why he lost his match against Peter Gade in TC. Before the magic thing happened in the decider game at MO 06, he made a lot of unforced errors too which saw Lin Dan leading. But he didn't make any for the last 8 points. I think he can beat anyone if he plays like this, no mistakes or just a few errors.

elwin81
06-20-2006, 05:19 AM
Well, next year WC will be held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia...

I want to see how Chinese players cope with our Malaysian crowd then..

by the way, KL is a nice place to visit, Dont miss the food here when you come here to watch WC next year... Bak Kut Teh is among the best!

Anyone from here going to WC2006 in madrid this september?

victory
06-20-2006, 08:32 AM
I think line judges and umpire in MO 2006 has done very professional job. They were vey fair through out! That should be the way in future! No reason for LD to complaint at all and yet we all see his bloody attitude! Really arrogant! Really sucks!

coolman
06-20-2006, 11:13 AM
if wong chong han did not injure, malaysia may enter final. Then malaysia may win the cup home too, as we can see that lee chong wei is able to match with lindan now.

ksooi
06-20-2006, 12:00 PM
LCW actually doesn't fear anyone....the problem when he plays the top players like TH,PG and LD is that they are reading his game....what limao is trying to improve on LCW's game is to add more variety.....

I didn't watch the MO2006 final coz i was overseas but from what i have read in the forum, it was hell of a match........ i would say it was just LCW at his best and without any pressure of winning the 3rd set......probably the pressure was more for LD to kill the 3rd set after leading 20-13.....I knw LCW plays very well without any pressure...but then who wouldn't......in fact during the TC, LCW was under so much pressure to perform even though he was carrying an injury.....and the pressure showed again in the Indonesian Open.....

I am delighted for him.....now he has to prove that he can perform consistently outside Malaysia.....get rid of the 'jaguh kampung' tag.....

Slugs
06-20-2006, 02:57 PM
An aspect I would like LCW to take up is not to be over reliance on Li Mao's instructions to the letter. Anything can happen on court i.e. whatever was planned earlier may not be appopriate by then. I think this is happening to LCW time and again. He seemed lost at times, and then he is be able to recover after an injection of fresh ideas from Li Mao.

If we take a cue from Peter Gade, the instructions from his coach is at best given at the strategic level, and I think his coach gives a lot of freedom to PG to exercise his own tactical plans. We can see clearly during the breaks that PG's coach didn't take much time as compared to LCW's.

jerby
06-20-2006, 03:28 PM
An aspect I would like LCW to take up is not to be over reliance on Li Mao's instructions to the letter. Anything can happen on court i.e. whatever was planned earlier may not be appopriate by then. I think this is happening to LCW time and again. He seemed lost at times, and then he is be able to recover after an injection of fresh ideas from Li Mao.

If we take a cue from Peter Gade, the instructions from his coach is at best given at the strategic level, and I think his coach gives a lot of freedom to PG to exercise his own tactical plans. We can see clearly during the breaks that PG's coach didn't take much time as compared to LCW's.
Maybe that's also mroe player dependent...PG is a tactical genius, i really love the way he sets up a winner...LCW might not be so 'courtsmart'
What I though was that LCW was a bit passive at the net. not really getting anything up high, not many low-lobs or pushes, LD did that more (and made mistakes at the end doign that)
also LD was goign for winners waay too soon from 13-20. some nicely-tried cross-drops, smashing out of position, etc

EastDevil
06-20-2006, 03:47 PM
An aspect I would like LCW to take up is not to be over reliance on Li Mao's instructions to the letter. Anything can happen on court i.e. whatever was planned earlier may not be appopriate by then. I think this is happening to LCW time and again. He seemed lost at times, and then he is be able to recover after an injection of fresh ideas from Li Mao.

If we take a cue from Peter Gade, the instructions from his coach is at best given at the strategic level, and I think his coach gives a lot of freedom to PG to exercise his own tactical plans. We can see clearly during the breaks that PG's coach didn't take much time as compared to LCW's.

Well, LCW is still not as experienced as Peter Gade. Gade has been around for a long time and have more or less seen it all.

Slugs
06-20-2006, 03:49 PM
Maybe that's also mroe player dependent...PG is a tactical genius, i really love the way he sets up a winner...LCW might not be so 'courtsmart'
What I though was that LCW was a bit passive at the net. not really getting anything up high, not many low-lobs or pushes, LD did that more (and made mistakes at the end doign that)
also LD was goign for winners waay too soon from 13-20. some nicely-tried cross-drops, smashing out of position, etc

Which means to say that in the case of PG he does most of the homework, but in LCW most of it is done by Li Mao.;)

Slugs
06-20-2006, 03:53 PM
Well, LCW is still not as experienced as Peter Gade. Gade has been around for a long time and have more or less seen it all.
Well, he has to do a paradigm shift if he wants to stay in contention.