LD regrets

[sshuang90]

From a close friend of him:阿丹也知道他没控制好情绪,其实他只是怪自己怎么没把握好机会.不过,他确实觉得欠疚,以后绝不会 再犯同样的行为.我站在旁观者的立场,他一路走来跌跌撞撞的,波折、试炼许多,要不是他有过人的毅力，可能 老早坚持不下去了。他只有23岁呢！真不容易。幸好有象你、我这样的球迷一直给他鼓励、支持，这是一股很关 键的稳定力量。阿丹虽然不说，心里很感动、也很感谢的。我们继续帮他加油吧！
http://www.davidliu.cn/article.asp?id=32#comment104

[terry]

SOmeone pls translate...

[Jofianty]

Anybody translate the article please ......??

[ants]

Lindan say he blame himself for not taking the opportunity to win. He regrets that he didnt control his emotion. He is only 23 and its is not easy to handle the pressure. He thanks the fans for being there to support and encourage him which he feel touched by it. Hope he can do better next time.

[sshuang90]

Thanks a lot, Ants. But I have to add something to your transaltion.

Lindan say he blame himself for not taking the opportunity to win. He regrets that he didnt control his emotion. HE'S REGRETFUL AND HE'LL NEVER BEHAVE LIKE THAT AGAIN.

Then the friend said, he's been watching LD going though downturns. It's not easy for a 23 years old. He thanks the fans for being there to support and encourage him which he feel touched by it. Hope he can do better next time.

[ants]

Well all of us learn from Mistakes.. :) Lets move on and enjoy badminton.

[jermaine]

i told you he didnt do it on purpose... just that minute you suddenly lose out with 20-13 like that is a very big blow, no one would have expected him to lose, even lin dan himself, his just very fustrated with himself, if you guys are playing like that in a tournament, i bet you might do something worse.. for some.

[ants]

Like what i've said before.. he just lost his emotion.. dont take it too personal.

[Simp84]

From a close friend of him:阿丹也知道他没控制好情绪,其实他只是怪自己怎么没把握好机会.不过,他确实觉得欠疚,以后绝不会 再犯同样的行为.我站在旁观者的立场,他一路走来跌跌撞撞的,波折、试炼许多,要不是他有过人的毅力，可能 老早坚持不下去了。他只有23岁呢！真不容易。幸好有象你、我这样的球迷一直给他鼓励、支持，这是一股很关 键的稳定力量。阿丹虽然不说，心里很感动、也很感谢的。我们继续帮他加油吧！
http://www.davidliu.cn/article.asp?id=32#comment104
Dan also knew that he did not controlled his emotions, in fact he is only blaming himself for not grasping hold of the good opportunity. However, he really felt guilty, and will never commit such an act again. Me as a bystander, as he continues to walk along the twist and turns, gone throgh many test, if it wasn't his preseverence he wouldn't have survived. He is only 23 years old! Not easy. Lucky there are fans like you and I encouraging and supporting him, this is a very crucial stabilizing force. Although Dan did not say it, however he is touch and thannkful... We will continue to help him "jua you"!

[Simp84]

I personally think that he is not even speaking for himself...
The words are spoken by someone elses...
anyway although he regret but he has yet to apologise to anyone...
All he has to say is the word 對不起, then we will know he truely regrets it:)

[terry]

Lose or win is the part of the game. For winner of course will be happy, and loser of course will be sad. So let's look forward for another tournament.

[tehsham]

Let us forget this issue and move on with the CT Open

[maxwellian]

All he is saying is that he is sorry that he did not control the "Siyutaion", being the game to win- not that he apologise for his behaviour.

[Simp84]

Let us forget this issue and move on with the CT Open
yes agree..
Please give this a rest
What is done is done.. Dont try to give anymore explanation for his behaviouor that day, it will not change people's impression of LD

[ctjcad]

Let us forget this issue and move on with the CT Open

yes agree..
Please give this a rest
What is done is done.. Dont try to give anymore explanation for his behaviouor that day, it will not change people's impression of LD
..concur and aaaamen..:)

[DinkAlot]

..concur and aaaamen..:)

Concur, apology accepted. Amen. :)

[sweety :D]

i think many ppl will not forget what he did in Malaysia open even they don't blame his poor attitude anymore

[luyi80]

agree wf u 100% sweety, i won't n is impossible to forget coz i saw it wf my own eyes, in the stadium, i can't tell in words how i felt, is really HURT, for us who hv been supporting chinese players for so many yrs. I m a msian supporter, n i support chn team wholeheartedly as well coz i m chinese. i won't express any thought on this issue again as my only post on this was deleted, which i dun say any bad comment on LD, i juz told how hurt kch fans were, n it had been deleted!!! I m HURT for the 2nd time...... ok, lets move on to Chinese taipei open, Malaysia Boleh! n hope all the european n indonesian players can get good results as they r not only good in skills, but portray a good example as world class players as well!

[nelsonkong]

even that...that shows a very bad attitude.

I agree people can be mad at times...but you have to control yourself...no ggod saying sorry after you killed someone right?

[DinkAlot]

even that...that shows a very bad attitude.

I agree people can be mad at times...but you have to control yourself...no ggod saying sorry after you killed someone right?

Oh come now, this is not a good example. Poor sportsmanship is nothing like killing someone. :rolleyes: ...:eek: It's just badminton, just leave it at that.

[sickgal]

well..perhaps im a malaysin and yet the incident happened at home that caused me feel disappointed...and the facts that im also a fans for china's team and specifically a fan of him.. make me feel worse..

anyhow..let bygone be bygone.. but for sure its gonna take some time to forget his act.

[nelsonkong]

lol...it is bascially the same theory...hahaha..anyway. Not going to argue on this.

One of my friend, there was this one time, he was being hit by the shuttlecock...when people smashing...he got angry and took the shuttle and hit back the guy who smashed him. lmao.

And he said sorry after that and you expect people will forget about that?

[verinee@yey]

huh LD regret now??:)

[KaSoon]

even that...that shows a very bad attitude.

I agree people can be mad at times...but you have to control yourself...no ggod saying sorry after you killed someone right?


If LD can control himself at that moment then he may not done that. He is still young and not matured enough. Everyone in this world have make mistake and wrong. This is just a tournament game and MOST IMPORTANT is he/she will realise, learn from the mistake/wrong and growth.

Sometimes we have to pay the "price" for growing. Hope we can open our heart and forgive the person who has done the wrong/mistake.

[terry]

Even footballer did it some times... so time will pass. He will be forgiven someday.

[Slugs]

I personally think that he is not even speaking for himself...
The words are spoken by someone elses...
anyway although he regret but he has yet to apologise to anyone...
All he has to say is the word 對不起, then we will know he truely regrets it:)

Yes, why not apologise personally instead of through a mediator?

[Jessica]

From a close friend of him:阿丹也知道他没控制好情绪,其实他只是怪自己怎么没把握好机会.不过,他确实觉得欠疚,以后绝不会 再犯同样的行为.我站在旁观者的立场,他一路走来跌跌撞撞的,波折、试炼许多,要不是他有过人的毅力，可能 老早坚持不下去了。他只有23岁呢！真不容易。幸好有象你、我这样的球迷一直给他鼓励、支持，这是一股很关 键的稳定力量。阿丹虽然不说，心里很感动、也很感谢的。我们继续帮他加油吧！
http://www.davidliu.cn/article.asp?id=32#comment104 Ya,all the unhappy things we should forget it.All people learns from mistakes,i think he doesn't do this purposely.We should give him a chance and stop blaming him,i think he definitely can change his attitude.All of us doesn'n want to lose such a fantastic player.What i wanted to tell Lin Dan is :competition is often has loser and winner,he is already the biggest winner if he had really done his best and he no need to feel sad.:) :)

[KaSoon]

我想说的是，网友们的责备是----爱之深，责之切。
没有人愿意输球，更不会有人愿意，在胜利的边缘，一分、一分又一分的被对手追上，然后，反超， 然后，折挂。
我们在现场的人，是疯了---为了球坛一哥、二哥联手呈现的球艺、过人的耐力和韧力，为之折服。我们现场的观众，都站了起来，大家鼓掌、 欢呼、喝彩。这原本是很美丽的一幅图画。说真的，比赛打成这样，不管是谁胜谁负，已然不重要---谁敢说，林丹和宗伟没有尽全力，没有坚持到最后一分钟？这场比赛，双方都是赢家。
只是，接下来的事情，没有人会想到。林丹狠狠地把自己的球拍往上踢，然后走去和宗伟握手。那时候，宗伟胜利 的激情还没平复，所以林丹就收拾自己的用具。在领奖的时候，林丹把我们部长挂在他身上的奖牌摘下，同时拒绝 戴上网上球友所讲的‘帽子’--我们特别的纪念品。尔后，他很快的从领奖台上下来，一位部长级的人趋前要求他留下，也不得要领。。。这些事 情，发生在我的眼前。
网友们所谓的‘帽子’，其实是砂拉越土族的英雄帽，是给与战士们佩戴的。那个时候，如果林丹愿意戴上，和宗 伟一起在领奖台上，接受观众的欢呼，会不会是很美丽的一幕？他们都是英雄啊！他们都战斗到最后 一刻啊！
球员们的压力，是非常人所能承受的，但是，没有人是永远的常胜军，也没有人会永远失败。我们在学习享受胜利 的时刻，也应该学习，接受失败的苦涩。我想，大姐张宁最能够给与林丹劝告，宁姐不也是卧薪尝胆10年之后， 才登上巅峰吗？球员在场上要有霸气，在场下更应该要有大气。
我知道，很多马来西亚的球迷很生气，那是因为，除开马来西亚的球员不说，中国的球员是马来西亚最受欢迎和崇 拜的。在大马公开赛的时候，观众们的欢呼声、海报、布条是最好的证据。
林丹，歉疚不是别人说了算，而是，你自己应该表现出来，应该，有所行动。23岁，不是年少气盛的少年人了， 应该懂得克制自己。尊重他人，就是尊重自己最好的体现。
从错误中学习吧！我们希望看到球技一流、球品一流的林丹。
林丹，我们会为你加油的。你不仅是13亿中国人民的骄傲，也是我们华侨们的骄傲。

Anyone can help to translate?

[tamages]

Yes, why not apologise personally instead of through a mediator?

agree! LD should apologize personally n openly!
he has shown bad sportsmanship n he knows it well. i can't believe a world no.1 in any sports would behave like that! it's sad to see that LD, while representing China, failed to show the virtues of Chinese people.

as a Malaysian Chinese i'm saddened by both LD's behavior n how he failed to react to criticisms afterwards.

he should show that he's willing to change, because like it or not, he represents the country and that responsibility will be with him through out his playing career.

right now, he just shows that his only quality is his badminton skill...

:(

[CanuckBur]

From what I read, Lin Dan only blame himself for not taking the chance to end the game quickly, nothing more. I wish him well and continue to support him and other great players alike.

[Loh]

well..perhaps im a malaysin and yet the incident happened at home that caused me feel disappointed...and the facts that im also a fans for china's team and specifically a fan of him.. make me feel worse..

anyhow..let bygone be bygone.. but for sure its gonna take some time to forget his act.

It is only natural for Sarawak fans to feel disappointed at LD's totally uncalled-for behaviour. I hope LD learns fast and never repeats such an ugly side of him again in full glare of the mass media, especially the TV. He was too emotional, unsportsmanlike and showed that he has not really matured and learned to respect the culture of the host country

I must compliment the European players, including JR of course, for being such good sports. But to condemn all China players who participated at the MO may be going too far. I recalled seeing Gao Ling and Zhang Jun smiling and being amused at the prize ceremony. They were enjoying and laughing at themselves. :D

[EastDevil]

even that...that shows a very bad attitude.

I agree people can be mad at times...but you have to control yourself...no ggod saying sorry after you killed someone right?

I am very curious how many times you have lost control and did something wrong. And I hope no one forgives you since there's no good if you apologize.

[hcyong]

I am very curious how many times you have lost control and did something wrong. And I hope no one forgives you since there's no good if you apologize.

Unfortunately, if what you did wrong is deemed a slur on a nation, it takes time to be forgiven. If what Lin Dan did was natural (and I agree it is human nature), then how the Malaysians (particularly Sarawakians) feel is natural as well. Lin Dan is one person and if that one person controlled himself it would be ok. Unfortunately, it's hard to quell this mob mentality because it's a lot of people. Just have to wait it out ...

[Josh²]

GO Lee Chong Wei!! HEhehe :D Me Malaysian Supporter!! He did well with some luck to win that! Amazing!

-The End-

[cooler]

I personally think that he is not even speaking for himself...
The words are spoken by someone elses...
anyway although he regret but he has yet to apologise to anyone...
All he has to say is the word 對不起, then we will know he truely regrets it:)

hey, even the president of the USA has press secretary and speech writers.
If he behave like that again, then u know he lied;) Until then, u can't doubt his regrets.

[mirrura]

Soon he'll learn because he is simply used to success after success and this defeat which I assume is the worst "defeat" he has tasted because of the many, many match point he held. I guess to him, it was the "stupid-est mistake" he has ever made, and that was why he couldn't control himself after losing the title which was once seemed to be his. Look at Taufik who has grown a lot.

Forgiven but not forgotten :D

[taufik-ist]

somebody must have printed out BC discussion of LIndan attitude and sent to
LIn dan :)

[kurama]

hopefully this won't happen again.

[hara^kazuko]

Boy, this is good... Everyone definitely feel much better with that...

And it's better than argueing whether his act should be forgiven or not...

Because what all we need is just a simple statement like this.. I dont need ppl to tell me LD was sad and it was hard for him... You shouldnt say so and that... Because I believe every person is responsible for what he did, but nevertheless, he made a statement so nothing more to argue about and I'm satisfied

[Simp84]

hey, even the president of the USA has press secretary and speech writers.
If he behave like that again, then u know he lied;) Until then, u can't doubt his regrets.
Honestly if I was Lin Dan, I would have apologise to those I have offended during press conference or whatever.. (by the way US president is u know.. cough cough:D)
The chinese articles are all written by ambitious fans.. like I say it can no longer change people's perspective towards Lin Dan..
To win some of his fans back i think it would be great if he apologises for his action first... Because regret and apology is total different thing..
If you refuse to apologise it may mean that you have no regret with the action u made.. do u get what I mean?
Anyway theres still time for him to change his attitude.. I hope he learn from this and becomes a better player:) Peace everyone.. now lets all start discussing in Taiwan Open thanks!

[jason_tiger]

Hi guys,

Lin Dan has expressed his sincere apology through his friend &
he will ensure he won't make the similiar mistake again when he returns to Malaysia next year.

http://www.davidliu.cn/article.asp?id=32 (http://www.davidliu.cn/article.asp?id=32)

Shall we move on:)

Cheers!

[X Ball]

Hi guys,

Lin Dan has expressed his sincere apology through his friend &
he will ensure he won't make the similiar mistake again when he returns to Malaysia next year.

http://www.davidliu.cn/article.asp?id=32 (http://www.davidliu.cn/article.asp?id=32)

Shall we move on:)

Cheers!


As an active member of this forum, I am glad he has come to his senses. It is certainly not worth the commotion he made. Owning up to this bad behaviour saves us a lot of further bashing.

For those questioning the bashing being unfair, you now witness the man confessing his error. I am now willing to drop further comments. I am sure the other people would too to show we are not about rubbishing the man unnecessarily.

[EastDevil]

As an active member of this forum, I am glad he has come to his senses. It is certainly not worth the commotion he made. Owning up to this bad behaviour saves us a lot of further bashing.

For those questioning the bashing being unfair, you now witness the man confessing his error. I am now willing to drop further comments. I am sure the other people would too to show we are not about rubbishing the man unnecessarily.

What he own up to has nothing to do with your bashing or comments. If he realized that he did something wrong, he should come up to his senses and learn from it and work on it. Who cares about whether you are willing to drop your comments or not?

[X Ball]

What he own up to has nothing to do with your bashing or comments. If he realized that he did something wrong, he should come up to his senses and learn from it and work on it. Who cares about whether you are willing to drop your comments or not?

Sorry, now you make no sense here so I would not pick an argument with you.

[All4Baddy]

somebody must have printed out BC discussion of LIndan attitude and sent to
LIn dan :)

Hahaha no need. I chatted with Lindan a day after his lost. From our conversation... he indeed lost control of his emotion and don't know what to do. Anyway he sounded apologetic about his actions.

[EastDevil]

Sorry, now you make no sense here so I would not pick an argument with you.

You can always challenge me to satay-eating contest to settle our differences when you drop by Singapore like you mentioned a while ago?

[X Ball]

You can always challenge me to satay-eating contest to settle our differences when you drop by Singapore like you mentioned a while ago?


Since I am such a good character, I accept. Send me your HP.

[ants]

AHahha.. cannot finish.. just Ta pau some for me.

[X Ball]

AHahha.. cannot finish.. just Ta pau some for me.

Now we know why you call yourself ANTS.

[EastDevil]

Now we know why you call yourself ANTS.

He already ate something before we went for dinner that evening during SO2006. If not, maybe 30 sticks just barely enough for Ants alone.

[block306]

Hi guys,

Lin Dan has expressed his sincere apology through his friend &
he will ensure he won't make the similiar mistake again when he returns to Malaysia next year.

http://www.davidliu.cn/article.asp?id=32 (http://www.davidliu.cn/article.asp?id=32)

Shall we move on:)

Cheers!

Can someone kindly help to translate what sort of apologies did he make in the blog? Thanks

[ants]

He already ate something before we went for dinner that evening during SO2006. If not, maybe 30 sticks just barely enough for Ants alone.

I think 20 sticks is good enough. 30 is too much. Anyway out of topic.

Lin Dan learned his lesson. I'm sure he will keep this in mind to not over react. He said that this was his first time to react like that and he felt guilty about it.

[EastDevil]

Can someone kindly help to translate what sort of apologies did he make in the blog? Thanks

Did you read the other posts in this thread?

[takumi007]

Yes that's true. i agreed with luyi80. i've been supporting chinese players too. But Lin dan case i dont think he really means it whether the article above is real or fake. lin dan's mood just bad on that day. We youngsters usually lose patience during young age and the audience most of them are sarawakien malaysian supporters. Probably lin dan lose because he couldnt control his emotions because of the sound they made that no difference from those coming out from jungles. What i seen from the video was lindan did wanna shake LCW's hand at first but LCW's head was bowed down while his coach Li Mao approached him. Did you guys noticed it? After that Lin dan feel he does not acknowledged LCW's victory, so he didnt shake hands with him. He just too upset i guess. We still going to support Lin dan aren't we??? And we hope LCW will make it this time for another Chinese taipei open 2006. Malaysia boleh! I've heard few remarks in the forum that chinese players does not want to sign their audience autograph. There's one case when a malaysian chinese approached to one of the chinese players with her mandarin for autograph. Usually even hongkong, taiwan, china some people thought of malaysian chinese do not speak their mother tonque and it's true unless they come here and really chat with the malaysian chinese here!.

[Cheung]

This thread is now going nowhere. The last post is particularly irrelevant. Thread closed