View Full Version : Lin Dan back to World No 1


hcyong
07-24-2006, 01:24 AM
According to my calculations (usually correct :D), after the Macau Open, Lin Dan will be back to Number 1. All this while, LCW was Number 1 because LD played less tournaments than him, but after Macau, LD will have his full complement of 10 tournaments to his credit.

However, LCW will not be far behind LD (less than 1000 points) and will still be the undisputed No 2, because Peter Gade is some distance away.

wynn000
07-24-2006, 01:33 AM
yaya LD wil regain his No.1. hope lcw an win Thai open can he regain No1 if he won the ThaiOpen?

X Ball
07-24-2006, 01:59 AM
It will be a ding dong between the two from onwards unless PG decides he wants to be involved with this ding donging game as well. PG is the only other player who can figure in this No.1 spot too.

tbleong
07-24-2006, 02:17 AM
Anybody know that how to calculate the points. 4* ,5* haw many points for the champoin ,and runner up?
i believe that if LCW win the TO, he will back to No1..

suetyan
07-24-2006, 06:15 AM
yeah !!! Finally LD back to No.1 !! Hope it will everlasting :D

X Ball
07-24-2006, 06:18 AM
yeah !!! Finally LD back to No.1 !! Hope it will everlasting :D

You must be the gal that LCW told me he ditched.:rolleyes:

JasonMichael
07-24-2006, 06:46 AM
good one dude! hehe :D

same thing happened to kim klijsters and hewitt where kim could not stop talking about federer...:rolleyes:

You must be the gal that LCW told me he ditched.:rolleyes:

hcyong
07-24-2006, 06:55 AM
yaya LD wil regain his No.1. hope lcw an win Thai open can he regain No1 if he won the ThaiOpen?

According to my calculations, even if LCW wins the Thai Open (which I assumed to be a 3* event), he will not catch LD. For Peter Gade, he will also not be able to catch LCW even if he wins the Thai Open. The rest are too far away to disturb the top 3. So, after the Thai Open, it will remain:
1. LD
2. LCW
3. PG

hcyong
07-24-2006, 06:58 AM
You must be the gal that LCW told me he ditched.:rolleyes:

Dude, everyone (including yourself) has his/her own favourites.

taufik-ist
07-24-2006, 06:59 AM
advise for LCW :

just stay at big of 3, don't be rush to achieve # 1
arrange the peak of performance,
Wc is closer, it's only 2 months left.

hcyong
07-24-2006, 07:01 AM
Anybody know that how to calculate the points. 4* ,5* haw many points for the champoin ,and runner up?
i believe that if LCW win the TO, he will back to No1..

This will help a lot.
http://badmintoninternational.net/newseditor/data/new_ranking_booklet.pdf

It's a bit outdated, but much of the information is correct. The ranking points must be multiplied by 10.

xijiayu
07-24-2006, 07:04 AM
I don't mind as long as LCW remains top 2 in the world. LD deserves to be number one as he is a better player. I am more interested to see LCW to beat LD outside Msia, rather than getting number 1 ranking.

hcyong
07-24-2006, 07:05 AM
advise for LCW :

just stay at big of 3, don't be rush to achieve # 1
arrange the peak of performance,
Wc is closer, it's only 2 months left.

I think the aim is to stay at top 2, not top 3. If you are seeded #1 or #2,
a. You know you cannot meet Lin Dan until final (assuming he is top 2 seed which is very likely)
b. There is half a chance you will avoid PG in the semifinal.

Taufik? Whether you are No 1 seed or unseeded, you can meet him any round, so it's up to luck of the draw.

X Ball
07-24-2006, 07:06 AM
Dude, everyone (including yourself) has his/her own favourites.

Couldn't you guess mine is LCW ?:rolleyes:

libratwins
07-24-2006, 07:10 AM
but is that true lin dan back to world no 1.can i believe you all!!!

hcyong
07-24-2006, 07:11 AM
I don't mind as long as LCW remains top 2 in the world. LD deserves to be number one as he is a better player. I am more interested to see LCW to beat LD outside Msia, rather than getting number 1 ranking.

Totally agree with you. I think mentally, it would be a fresh new world for LCW if he can string together some impressive wins to win a title outside Malaysia (Madrid maybe?). There are other big guns out there, not just Lin Dan.

hcyong
07-24-2006, 07:12 AM
Couldn't you guess mine is LCW ?:rolleyes:

Really? I wouldn't have thought...

hcyong
07-24-2006, 07:16 AM
but is that true lin dan back to world no 1.can i believe you all!!!

When it comes to adding and subtracting, I am an expert. If the new ranking proves (out every Thursday) otherwise, blame my desktop calculator.

wynn000
07-24-2006, 07:30 AM
The Men's Singles event was a much awaited match at the Tap Seac Multisport Pavillion yesterday, as bitter rivals Lin Dan (CHN) and Lee Chong Wei (MAS) once again battled for not only the title of Macau Open champion but also the determinant for the position as world no. 1. Lin Dan started well by taking the first game at 21-18. But Lee Chong Wei's resilient fighting spirit and skillful play leveled-up in the second game, 21-18. Despite that both players showed imminence level of skill, it was Lin who had a slight edge over Lee, won the third game and emerged as champion. It was a double joy for Lin Dan as he not only won the title in the inaugural Macau Badminton Open 2006 but also regained his spot as world no. 1 in the IBF ranking.

Chu Liuxiang
07-24-2006, 07:59 AM
According to my calculations (usually correct :D), after the Macau Open, Lin Dan will be back to Number 1. All this while, LCW was Number 1 because LD played less tournaments than him, but after Macau, LD will have his full complement of 10 tournaments to his credit.

However, LCW will not be far behind LD (less than 1000 points) and will still be the undisputed No 2, because Peter Gade is some distance away.

My calculation, after Macau Open, Lin Dan's points is 40,903 while Lee Chong wei's points is 39,993:D . So, Lin Dan No1 and Lee Chong Wei No2. Correct me if I am wrong.

hcyong
07-24-2006, 08:15 AM
My calculation, after Macau Open, Lin Dan's points is 40,903 while Lee Chong wei's points is 39,993:D . So, Lin Dan No1 and Lee Chong Wei No2. Correct me if I am wrong.

Hey, you stole my calculations. Give them back.

ants
07-24-2006, 12:03 PM
Actually it make not much difference in the draws for both LD and LCW. But its easier to make it in the Finals when ur the 1st seed.

Han
07-24-2006, 12:27 PM
As long as LCW can keep his work ethics then he will succeed one day. I can see his improvement on each of his recent tournament, good sign! Beating Bao Chun Lai and Chen Hong in straight set is a great achievement and being world #2 is as good as #1 as he will avoid Lin Dan until the end, if both of them get that far. Lin Dan has been very consistent and I am glad to see LCW is heading to that direction too. Now lets hope the other amogos Hafiz and Kuan Beng Hong can step up and assist LCW to clear some of the hurdles in future tournaments.
I can feel Chen Hong and Bao Chunlai are on the downword slide, this is the great opportunity for other players to capitalize.

TKG2609
07-24-2006, 01:08 PM
hopefully no one get injured .... especially lindan, taufik, chongwei n peter gade ...

wynn000
07-24-2006, 10:30 PM
Since Lin Dan skipped the Thailand Open ,if LCW won the title can he cme back No 1??

tehsham
07-24-2006, 10:38 PM
Since Lin Dan skipped the Thailand Open ,if LCW won the title can he cme back No 1??
I dont think he need to win to be the No. 1 anyway I will leave it to the sifu mathematician hcyong to give the scenario for LCW to go back to No. 1

cklee
07-24-2006, 10:42 PM
Hey hcyong,

Does LCW need to win the thai Open to retain No.1? How much pts does players earn for entering the last 16, Quarters/Semis/Final berth?

Carbonex_21
07-25-2006, 12:52 AM
This will help a lot.
http://badmintoninternational.net/newseditor/data/new_ranking_booklet.pdf

It's a bit outdated, but much of the information is correct. The ranking points must be multiplied by 10.

Is it same with Formula 1 calculations?:eek:

Jessica
07-25-2006, 01:51 AM
Very complicated calculation...I can't understand...

khelben
07-25-2006, 02:09 AM
Hey hcyong,

Does LCW need to win the thai Open to retain No.1? How much pts does players earn for entering the last 16, Quarters/Semis/Final berth?

actually winning the thai open which is a 3 star event will only provide 3600 points, which will not be enough to displace lin dan from the top since the lowest score lcw can replace is 2940.

tehsham
07-25-2006, 02:30 AM
actually winning the thai open which is a 3 star event will only provide 3600 points, which will not be enough to displace lin dan from the top since the lowest score lcw can replace is 2940.
Shudn't it be enough since LCW and LD is only differentiate by 10 pts in their position

hcyong
07-25-2006, 02:37 AM
Yes, khelben is right. I have said before in this thread that even if LCW wins the Thai, he will not get back his Number 1, but he will be very close to Lin Dan. So, no matter what happens (who wins, who pulls out, etc), it will remain LD, LCW, PG after the Thai Open.

The Thai Open is only 3*. The coming 6* Korean and Hong Kong Opens will matter a great deal.

Anyone, with a snap of a finger, can tell me which week's ranking is used for WC seedings? I am too lazy to search.

hcyong
07-25-2006, 02:39 AM
Shudn't it be enough since LCW and LD is only differentiate by 10 pts in their position

According to my never-fail Desktop Calculator (can even count with 2, 8 or 16 fingers), 40,903 - 39,993 is not 10.

hcyong
07-25-2006, 02:54 AM
Is it same with Formula 1 calculations?:eek:

F1 rankings are way too simple. You get 10 pts for a win, 8 for second, followed by 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1, and you just keep totalling them and see who has the biggest number.

In badminton, you get points for a win, runner-up, semi-finalist, etc but the points you get depends on the level of the tournament as well (from 7* all the way to 1*, then A and B). Secondly, we don't just total everything up. For each player/pair, we only total up his/her/their 10 best tournaments (including maximum of 1 team tournament) and see who has the most points. This is presumably to prevent me from taking part in a thousand kiddie B tournaments a year and end up as world no 1.

cklee
07-25-2006, 03:02 AM
F1 rankings are way too simple. You get 10 pts for a win, 8 for second, followed by 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1, and you just keep totalling them and see who has the biggest number.

In badminton, you get points for a win, runner-up, semi-finalist, etc but the points you get depends on the level of the tournament as well (from 7* all the way to 1*, then A and B). Secondly, we don't just total everything up. For each player/pair, we only total up his/her/their 10 best tournaments (including maximum of 1 team tournament) and see who has the most points. This is presumably to prevent me from taking part in a thousand kiddie B tournaments a year and end up as world no 1.

Oh i see. Thank you MR. hcyong. Your explanation very clear. :D:D:D

tehsham
07-25-2006, 03:09 AM
According to my never-fail Desktop Calculator (can even count with 2, 8 or 16 fingers), 40,903 - 39,993 is not 10.
Sori hcyong I admit I overlook the 9 on LD points.

hara^kazuko
07-25-2006, 05:09 AM
ohwhh.... I remember reading some articles that Lee Chong Wei would remain number one at least he got into the final...

But it's okay though, being number one is just something on the surface, and I'm pretty sure that Lee Chong Wei can smudge it off soon... His performance has just never gone down

Chu Liuxiang
07-25-2006, 11:06 AM
Hey, you stole my calculations. Give them back.

Well, you know I didn't although I wanted to but that prove that we have the same answer:D.

tehsham
07-25-2006, 12:35 PM
ohwhh.... I remember reading some articles that Lee Chong Wei would remain number one at least he got into the final...

But it's okay though, being number one is just something on the surface, and I'm pretty sure that Lee Chong Wei can smudge it off soon... His performance has just never gone down
Me too but maybe the reporter is another poor in mathematic unlike the sifu we have in BC

Syaoran_Style
07-25-2006, 12:43 PM
That's greaat for Lin dan =)
I'm going to go at the worldchampionship in madrid, and i'll be looking for himm firstly =p LIN DAN JIA YOU !!!

TKG2609
07-25-2006, 12:53 PM
no need rank#1 ... just give us the world champ winner ... go go lindan ...

asuncion_03
07-28-2006, 08:37 PM
Lin Dan in no. 1!!! absolutely!!

libratwins
07-28-2006, 11:53 PM
cogratulation to LD coz back to world no 1 also cograts to LCW coz back to no 2...i know LCW can get it back one day..careful LD!!!

cao ci dan
07-29-2006, 04:40 AM
:D :D :D :D good jod Lin Dan....:D :D :D :D all the best...:cool: :cool: how can i miss out this page!!*careless*:p :p

TKG2609
07-29-2006, 04:42 AM
in dan #1 ... n chen jin #3 next week, hehehe