Since the draw is out, at the upper part, LCW and CY probably will meet at qf! later the possible men in semi maybe is Sony k, or KJ will meet LCW or CY.
hopefully LCW will beat CY this time.

At the lower part was quite clear, sf most probably are TH and BCL, 'cos PG was not in the competation...

what do u all think????

TH and BCL.....hard to predict!!!....but i think TH will make it....since BCL is well known as Mr.Quarter-Finalist!!

i think taufik will win either korea open or HK open before wc, like last year

TH and BCL.....hard to predict!!!....but i think TH will make it....since BCL is well known as Mr.Quarter-Finalist!!

i'm not agree with u.....
i think bao will win this time....
he will defeat taufik cause he lost from taufik in indonesia open......
;);)

i hope to see BCL win too....all the best then!!

i hope to see BCL win too....all the best then!!

don't forget to support taufik, too :D

don't forget to support taufik, too :D
:D not to worry...still supporting TH!!

You guys shouldnt kick LCW aside, he will either be in semifinal or final, depends mostly on luck, we may not know if a third defeat to Chen Yu is likely to be happpened

TH and BCL.....hard to predict!!!....but i think TH will make it....since BCL is well known as Mr.Quarter-Finalist!!

I thought BCL is well known as Mr. Runner-up. Probably no body else has earned more runner-ups than he.

Of course, BCL entered quarter final many times, but for each tournaments, there are 8 guys in quarter-final(4 of 8 quarter-finalists ended at quarter-final), but only 1 runner up.

So BCL is NOT Mr.Quarter-Finalist, BCL is Mr. Runner-up.

Who is Mr.Quarter-Finalist? Lee Hyun Il is the Mr.Quarter-Finalist for sure. No body else has earned more quarter-finalist than Lee YI in the past year. Lee Hyun Il has earned 6 quarter-finalists, including CHINESE TAIPEI OPEN 2006, DJARUM INDONESIA OPEN 2006, YONEX GERMAN OPEN 2006, WILSON BADMINTON SWISS OPEN 2006, PICC CHINA OPEN, and also last year's XIV WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS quarter finalist.

At this Korea open, there is a very slim chance for Lee HI stays as a quarterfinalist. If he cannot beat Taufik, then he cannot enter quarter final, if he beat Taufik, then he will be in the semi-final without any problem. Because there is no any decent player in the other quarter with Gade's withdrawal.

Since the draw is out, at the upper part, LCW and CY probably will meet at qf! later the possible men in semi maybe is Sony k, or KJ will meet LCW or CY.
hopefully LCW will beat CY this time.

At the lower part was quite clear, sf most probably are TH and BCL, 'cos PG was not in the competation...

what do u all think????

Simon will shine in this year KO....

Simon will shine in this year KO....

So Taufik will be in Simon's shadow

SIMON?? i not seen this guy in TV yet,, dun know how he look. but he gain quite ok in few international touranment..
abt TH, dun hope too much, he always said want will save energy for WC...so, this time i think he will "save" energy again....hahahah,, so, he will lose to BCL..

So Taufik will be in Simon's shadow

The " hardest" hurdle for TH in this KO is LHI....[that's it]...

Once TH can defeat LHI....no one can stop him from being the champion.

Once TH reaches the Semi Final....you will see a Taufik-in-Action match!!:)

With PG's withdrawal, no serious obstacle for TH to secure his place in SF,only KOR's LeeHI probably is hard opponent in QF scenario.And TH will meet BCL in SF round,certainly TH can overcome BCL (CHN's best hope in this tourney to grab MS crown but BCL is still lack of motivation/determination although all BCL's fans never forget wishing him to win something -- OMG).From top-half draw, maybe CY has chance making hat-trick to beat LCW again, but doubtedly CY can arrive at QF spot because CY seems getting trouble if he must face lower-rank players such as Simon or ShojiSato. Then,LCW will against KJ is last four (surely open road for current world #2 to freeze Dane's veteran without underestimate him).Move on to final scene will happen between LCW vs TH! And the winner goes to...Both of them have equal opportunities 50:50 to take the title...really difficult to predict.

With PG's withdrawal, no serious obstacle for TH to secure his place in SF,only KOR's LeeHI probably is hard opponent in QF scenario.And TH will meet BCL in SF round,certainly TH can overcome BCL (CHN's best hope in this tourney to grab MS crown but BCL is still lack of motivation/determination although all BCL's fans never forget wishing him to win something -- OMG).From top-half draw, maybe CY has chance making hat-trick to beat LCW again, but doubtedly CY can arrive at QF spot because CY seems getting trouble if he must face lower-rank players such as Simon or ShojiSato. Then,LCW will against KJ is last four (surely open road for current world #2 to freeze Dane's veteran without underestimate him).Move on to final scene will happen between LCW vs TH! And the winner goes to...Both of them have equal opportunities 50:50 to take the title...really difficult to predict.

The final will be Simon vs TH and the winner is Simon:)

indra,, i really dun know why u predict simon will win.. ????

it should be a LCW vs Taufik in the final! My dream match in the year!!

it should be a LCW vs Taufik in the final! My dream match in the year!!
Yeah another of those must watch game and a break from those LCW/LD duels

indra,, i really dun know why u predict simon will win.. ????

The "toughest" challenger for SImon is LCW....

LCW was defeated by SImon in the SEA GAMES last year...I guess SImon's confidence is increasing and his physical condition is getting better...

SO I predict SImon will meet LCW in the SF and SImon will be able to "handle" LCW and TH vs BAO.

When Simon meets TH in the final...I guess SImon will "defeat" TH.
They have known each other...just like Chen Hong vs Lin Dan

...SImon will "defeat" TH...
...Simon will shine in this year KO...
...The final will be Simon vs TH and the winner is Simon...


Is that you, indra, claimed the most die hard TH fan, the number 1 supporter for TH here in this forum?

Is there any other people betting on TH? or runner up is really the limit TH can reach, since it is from his number 1 supporter. :cool:

I thought BCL is well known as Mr. Runner-up. Probably no body else has earned more runner-ups than he.

Of course, BCL entered quarter final many times, but for each tournaments, there are 8 guys in quarter-final(4 of 8 quarter-finalists ended at quarter-final), but only 1 runner up.

So BCL is NOT Mr.Quarter-Finalist, BCL is Mr. Runner-up.

Who is Mr.Quarter-Finalist? Lee Hyun Il is the Mr.Quarter-Finalist for sure. No body else has earned more quarter-finalist than Lee YI in the past year. Lee Hyun Il has earned 6 quarter-finalists, including CHINESE TAIPEI OPEN 2006, DJARUM INDONESIA OPEN 2006, YONEX GERMAN OPEN 2006, WILSON BADMINTON SWISS OPEN 2006, PICC CHINA OPEN, and also last year's XIV WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS quarter finalist.

At this Korea open, there is a very slim chance for Lee HI stays as a quarterfinalist. If he cannot beat Taufik, then he cannot enter quarter final, if he beat Taufik, then he will be in the semi-final without any problem. Because there is no any decent player in the other quarter with Gade's withdrawal.
lol I see u are anti-LHI to the max.....

lol I see u are anti-LHI to the max.....

You are totally wrong!

First, I found Lee HI just from database, I was trying to find who got most quarter finalists, then Lee HI came out undisputed, with 6, the second has only 3. So he is the Mr Quarter finalist from the database, not from my sentiment at all.

Second, I have nothing against LHI, I think he is a very good defender, of course, I don't think he is the best in the world, since he does not have any title, and only 1 four star runner up.

Third, Mr Quarter finalist is not bad at all, if some one keeps in quarter final, he should be in the top 8 in the world.;)

I found a lot of people can not view things objectively, including the IBF site. For example, IBF listed Lee HI as the top candidate and strong favourite to win WC, while Chen Jin, Chen Hong, Bao CL as only challengers to watch out. Even though all those 2nd class challengers are ranked higher than Lee HI, and Chen Jin and Chen Hong are also 6 stars title holders, while Lee HI best result was only 4 star runner up. But their reasoning is that in the recent tournaments, from Ina open, Singapore open, Malay open, Taipei Open, Macau Open, Thai open, CH, CJ, BCL showed their weakness and vulnerability, while Lee HI are still strong and stable. But if you really look at the results, things were just opposite, BCL got a 6 star runner up, CJ got a runner up, and CH got 2 semi-finalists, while LHI participated more opens, but only 1 semi-finalist. Why they keep saying LHI performed better, only because that's their wish. Fans only count their idol's win.

Well, if you are one of the guy insisting LHI is one of the best in the world, then there is no wonder you thought I am anti-LHI to the max. But for my self, I just read from data.:cool:

In my opinion, if Simon Santoso finds himself up against Lee Chong Wei, Lee will definitely have the upper hand. I'd give Simon a 15% chance of beating Chong Wei this time around, the Malaysian is playing extremely well.
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Is that you, indra, claimed the most die hard TH fan, the number 1 supporter for TH here in this forum?

Is there any other people betting on TH? or runner up is really the limit TH can reach, since it is from his number 1 supporter. :cool:

I am behind Simon in this KO tournament.

Why: Because
1. This tournament is not participated by LD, PG, CJ, CH, (players that badminton fans want to see playing TH).
2. This is a warming-up tournament prior to WC
3. When facing his fellow junior, Taufik tends to let his felow junior win.

But in the WC (where all top guns eye the title, that's a different story).

I am behind Simon in this KO tournament.

......

But in the WC (where all top guns eye the title, that's a different story).

Thanks for explainations, now I understand, this KO title is just a gift Taufik wants to give to Simon. :D

I found a lot of people can not view things objectively, including the IBF site. For example, IBF listed Lee HI as the top candidate and strong favourite to win WC, while Chen Jin, Chen Hong, Bao CL as only challengers to watch out. Even though all those 2nd class challengers are ranked higher than Lee HI, and Chen Jin and Chen Hong are also 6 stars title holders, while Lee HI best result was only 4 star runner up. But their reasoning is that in the recent tournaments, from Ina open, Singapore open, Malay open, Taipei Open, Macau Open, Thai open, CH, CJ, BCL showed their weakness and vulnerability, while Lee HI are still strong and stable. But if you really look at the results, things were just opposite, BCL got a 6 star runner up, CJ got a runner up, and CH got 2 semi-finalists, while LHI participated more opens, but only 1 semi-finalist. Why they keep saying LHI performed better, only because that's their wish. Fans only count their idol's win.

Well, if you are one of the guy insisting LHI is one of the best in the world, then there is no wonder you thought I am anti-LHI to the max. But for my self, I just read from data.:cool:

Actually, I agree with what the IBF said. I believe that at this moment, Lee HI is a stronger challenger than Chen Hong and Bao. Not so sure about Chen Jin though. Sometimes, you cannot just look at the results or rankings. Just by looking at the rankings, Taufik would not even be considered a dark horse.

Actually, I agree with what the IBF said. I believe that at this moment, Lee HI is a stronger challenger than Chen Hong and Bao. Not so sure about Chen Jin though. Sometimes, you cannot just look at the results or rankings. Just by looking at the rankings, Taufik would not even be considered a dark horse.

Taufik got WC last time, and Olympic ring, and also recent 6 star INA open title. His results are not bad at all. His ranking is low because he plays less. I still cannot dig out any LHI's achievement could be compatible to Taufik's records.

Winning a title is different from winning 2 quarter-finalists. But IBF thinks it's the same. Calculations in ranking give the same points if you either win 1 title or win 2 quarter finalists. That's the reason Taufik is under-rated, while Lee HI is overrated. IBF's points is that winning a title needs 6 matches, and 2 quarter-finalists need 6 matches (2 x 3 matches). So they are the same. But reality check: champion never lose, while 2 quarter-finalists lost twice; Champion beats runner up, while quarter-finalist lost to semi-finalists.

Champion needs special talents which not everyone has. Taufik proved it before several times, but Lee HI not yet. Lee HI's 6 quarter-finalists makes him ahead of TH in ranking, but it also indicates he lost more times than TH.

Well, let's see, imho, players like Lee HI, and Bao CL, have problems to really win something.

You are totally wrong!

First, I found Lee HI just from database, I was trying to find who got most quarter finalists, then Lee HI came out undisputed, with 6, the second has only 3. So he is the Mr Quarter finalist from the database, not from my sentiment at all.

Second, I have nothing against LHI, I think he is a very good defender, of course, I don't think he is the best in the world, since he does not have any title, and only 1 four star runner up.

Third, Mr Quarter finalist is not bad at all, if some one keeps in quarter final, he should be in the top 8 in the world.;)

I found a lot of people can not view things objectively, including the IBF site. For example, IBF listed Lee HI as the top candidate and strong favourite to win WC, while Chen Jin, Chen Hong, Bao CL as only challengers to watch out. Even though all those 2nd class challengers are ranked higher than Lee HI, and Chen Jin and Chen Hong are also 6 stars title holders, while Lee HI best result was only 4 star runner up. But their reasoning is that in the recent tournaments, from Ina open, Singapore open, Malay open, Taipei Open, Macau Open, Thai open, CH, CJ, BCL showed their weakness and vulnerability, while Lee HI are still strong and stable. But if you really look at the results, things were just opposite, BCL got a 6 star runner up, CJ got a runner up, and CH got 2 semi-finalists, while LHI participated more opens, but only 1 semi-finalist. Why they keep saying LHI performed better, only because that's their wish. Fans only count their idol's win.

Well, if you are one of the guy insisting LHI is one of the best in the world, then there is no wonder you thought I am anti-LHI to the max. But for my self, I just read from data.:cool:
You just sounded very angry and upset before lol...
Defending Bao with LHI :p
And no, I am a full surporter for Taufik and LCW haha~ But LHI is quite enjoyable to watch! And hes won a few international title ok.... more than Bao ok..:rolleyes:

You just sounded very angry and upset before lol...
Defending Bao with LHI :p
And no, I am a full surporter for Taufik and LCW haha~ But LHI is quite enjoyable to watch! And hes won a few international title ok.... more than Bao ok..:rolleyes:

You are wrong again;)

I am not angry at all. I felt good after I found the answer from the database. I don't support Bao CL at all. Like Lee HI, both of them have problems to win title, that's my finding. Further investigation shows that Bao CL ended up with runner up more often, while Lee HI ended up with quarter-finalist in most case.

... I am a full surporter for Taufik and LCW haha~ But .....:rolleyes:

But LCW lost again, you know that :D :D :D :crying: :crying: :crying:

Simon will shine in this year KO....
maybe..but I doubt he can defeat Chen Yu.
ermm.....Hafiz, where are you??

But LCW lost again, you know that :D :D :D :crying: :crying: :crying: wow really? must go check out result!
if true I will just wheep quietly :D

oh yes u are right LCW lost~
But not surprised afterall.. Losing to a senior teammate..
well I can put my full support on Taufik now! yay:D

oh yes u are right LCW lost~
But not surprised afterall.. Losing to a senior teammate..
well I can put my full support on Taufik now! yay:D

TH is waiting for LHI in the round 3 beating Mirloy straight-sets.

oh yes u are right LCW lost~
But not surprised afterall.. Losing to a senior teammate..
well I can put my full support on Taufik now! yay:D

I hope LCW is not presenting Roslin with a departure gift for his trip to Denmark, but Roslin will have the best gift if he wins the Korea Open! :D

so sad to know LCW lose. Now Roslin have no choice, he have to take the responbility to win the KO.'cos LCW pass the "ball" to him..
another, Hafiz also lose to unknown player,, this guy always like that, so dissapointed to him..

WHat on the earth is going on??

LCW lost to Roslin??? Hafiz lost to no-name????

The world is mad

*fainted*

WHat on the earth is going on??

LCW lost to Roslin??? Hafiz lost to no-name????

The world is mad

*fainted*

yeah the world is mad, alven/luluk lost to 'unknown' md :rolleyes:

hurra.... taufik won and will meet LHI...

keep supporting Taufik :)

so sad to know LCW lose. Now Roslin have no choice, he have to take the responbility to win the KO.'cos LCW pass the "ball" to him..
another, Hafiz also lose to unknown player,, this guy always like that, so dissapointed to him..
haha ya hes a goner for sure
I think misbun spoiled him... Misbun should threaten him more...
but turns out hes not doin that lately..
he really needs to clean out his act

You never no, it could be team orders to go after some ranking loopholes. LCW probably has a strangle hold on the #2 spot and maybe Roslin could benefit a rankings boost.

Also LCW may be saving his push for HK open to take on Lin Dan for the #1 spot and psychological boost to beat him. If so it makes sense to pull out of KO and stay fresh for the real battle in HK open.

Interesting to see if this happens as the boost could go either way if LCW wins he will have the edge going to WC else Lin Dan strengthens current.

Hmm, wonder if Team Malaysia has come up w/ some team tactics to counter Lin Dan counter move at Thai Open. They need bigger talent pool to get some lefty jump smashing sparring partners for LCW.

Derek

hollywood. hope what you said is true. if LCW lose is 'cos team order, i think he should not participate in KO, why he want to spoil his name...there is no choice now, hopefully when he playing in HO, no more excuse to saying that saving energy to WC...

Looks like there have been some theories about why LCW lost on the match against Roslin. I think it was just because Roslin played better than him, that's it. If there is a team order to lose, he might as well opt out of the KO and concentrate on HO. It is just like tbleong said, it is better for LCW to just stay home and go to HO afterwards instead of going to KO and lost.

it can be chen yu vs kenneth n taufik vs bao cl in semifinal .... then taufik will beat chen yu in final .......

LATEST RESULT!!! Roslin vs CY in qf...
SHON, Seung Mo vs posana

Roslin bt PARK, Sung Hwan and CY bt Simon
SHON, Seung Mo bt KJ
Posana bt HWANG, Jung Woon

Korea MS only left LHI

taufik?
wat about him?

taufik?
wat about him?

Well LHI defeated TH in a marathon rubber. So no Indonesians in SF . Only 3 Koreans, 2 Malaysians, 2 Chinese and 1 Thai will fight for a place in the Semi Final!

So it seems homeground favours the Koreans. But watch out for 31 year old Roslin who wants to become World no.1 again before the 2008 Beijing Olympics. But of course, he has to contend with TH! :D

Well LHI defeated TH in a marathon rubber. So no Indonesians in SF . Only 3 Koreans, 2 Malaysians, 2 Chinese and 1 Thai will fight for a place in the Semi Final!

So it seems homeground favours the Koreans. But watch out for 31 year old Roslin who wants to become World no.1 again before the 2008 Beijing Olympics. But of course, he has to contend with TH! :D

OMG is it true that roslin wants to become world #1 again :p ?

OMG is it true that roslin wants to become world #1 again :p ?
It would be quite unlikely that Roslin to become world No 1 again.
BAM will be glad if Roslin could become world #10, this will solve their trouble in selecting Malaysian third singles for Doha Asian Games. :D

hehehe ... lindan beat lee chong wei, lee chong wei beat lee hyun il, lee hyun il beat taufik, taufik beat lindan ... hehehehe

Latest result!!!
Roslin bt CY,, WOWWWWW!!!!
SSM bt Ponsak,,,,

LHI bt ayob, to SF

WMC enter SF

final = roslin vs lee hyun il ...

I think Roslin vs BCL

Ya..no matter what...as long as Roslin can enter to final and win the tournament...Remember to let our flag fly in Korea...This is the best Merdeka present

Any New Result For Ms And Ws????

roslin in final...hahah!!!!!!

Oh..really..that good...How about WMC???

:p Any more good news? plsssssss.......just good news....plsssss....:p

Ya...we are still waiting...there are still no news in WS...

No one would have predicted Roslin in the final... It's just shocking, somehow great to see

haizz..I'm in a dilemma.In one hand,I hope Roslin will win this title but on the other hand,I don't want Bao to be tagged forever as Mr.Runner up.....haizz....