My predicted winner listed to the left.

MS
Roslin v Park SH - could be close
Chen Yu v Simon - could be close too
Kenneth v Shon
Boonsak v Hwang Joon Woon
Poompat v Jang Young Soo - could be close
Bao v Dicky
Lee HI v Taufik - TH likes to award wins to the home nation players, right? also, match of the day
Sairul v Kennevic - the weakest match of the round

WS
Xu HW v Julia Wong - could give a run for the money
Saina v Soratja
Pi HY v Hwang Hye Young
Lu Lan v Cheng Shao-Chieh - could give run for money
Zhu Lin v Meemek
Hirose v Yao Jie - hard to predict, this one (match of the day)
Hallam v Kanako - another hard one
Wong MC v Salakjit

MD
He/Shen v Sakamoto/Ikeda - can't say I know any of them, prediction based on the Chinese beating the top seeds
Lindley/Langridge v Han/Kang - another soft one, also predicted based on beaten opponents
Fairuz/Lin v Yoo/Jeon
Lee/Hwang v Clark/Blair - not quite sure about this one, if it was Jung/Lee I would be quite sure; Clark/Blair are an experienced pair
Kido/Setiawan v Paaske/Rasmussen - tough one (match of the day)
Jung/Lee v Ong/Tan - Koreans looking good to win the title here
Xie/Guo v Tony/Candra - a cracker this one, I predict based on Xie/Guo being a long-established pair and not a bad pair, too while Tony/Chandra may be a wee bit rusty
Koo/Chan v Flandi/Sigit - another cracker, same logic as previous

WD
Yang/Zhang v Kimiko/Reiko - those poor things
Chin/Wong v Chou/Ku
Emms/Kellogg v Nedelcheva/Dimova
Nurlita/Poluakan v Augustyn/Kostiuczyk - can never remember the spelling
Pan/Tian v Novita/Polii - not sure about this one (match of the day)
Cheng/Chien v Suetsuna/Maeda
Saralee/Sathinee v Parker/Day
Lee/Lee v Andersen/Schjoldager

XD
Widianto/Natsir v Kindervater/Piotrowski
Sudket/Saralee v Shen/Tian
Lee/Hwang v Rasmussen/Andersen - Koreans were impressive in Thailand; Lee YD kicks some a**
Laybourn/Juhl v Mateusiak/Kostiuczyk
Clark/Kellogg v Rizal/Polii - (match of the day)
Eirksen/Schjoldager v Hwang/Jung
Blair/Munt v Paaske/Nielsen
Lee/Lee v He/Pan

My predicted winner listed to the left.

MS
Roslin v Park SH - could be close
Chen Yu v Simon - could be close too
Kenneth v Shon
Boonsak v Hwang Joon Woon
Poompat v Jang Young Soo - could be close
Bao v Dicky
Lee HI v Taufik - TH likes to award wins to the home nation players, right? also, match of the day
Sairul v Kennevic - the weakest match of the round

WS
Xu HW v Julia Wong - could give a run for the money
Saina v Soratja
Pi HY v Hwang Hye Young
Lu Lan v Cheng Shao-Chieh - could give run for money
Zhu Lin v Meemek
Hirose v Yao Jie - hard to predict, this one (match of the day)
Hallam v Kanako - another hard one
Wong MC v Salakjit

MD
He/Shen v Sakamoto/Ikeda - can't say I know any of them, prediction based on the Chinese beating the top seeds
Lindley/Langridge v Han/Kang - another soft one, also predicted based on beaten opponents
Fairuz/Lin v Yoo/Jeon
Lee/Hwang v Clark/Blair - not quite sure about this one, if it was Jung/Lee I would be quite sure; Clark/Blair are an experienced pair
Kido/Setiawan v Paaske/Rasmussen - tough one (match of the day)
Jung/Lee v Ong/Tan - Koreans looking good to win the title here
Xie/Guo v Tony/Candra - a cracker this one, I predict based on Xie/Guo being a long-established pair and not a bad pair, too while Tony/Chandra may be a wee bit rusty
Koo/Chan v Flandi/Sigit - another cracker, same logic as previous

WD
Yang/Zhang v Kimiko/Reiko - those poor things
Chin/Wong v Chou/Ku
Emms/Kellogg v Nedelcheva/Dimova
Nurlita/Poluakan v Augustyn/Kostiuczyk - can never remember the spelling
Pan/Tian v Novita/Polii - not sure about this one (match of the day)
Cheng/Chien v Suetsuna/Maeda
Saralee/Sathinee v Parker/Day
Lee/Lee v Andersen/Schjoldager

XD
Widianto/Natsir v Kindervater/Piotrowski
Sudket/Saralee v Shen/Tian
Lee/Hwang v Rasmussen/Andersen - Koreans were impressive in Thailand; Lee YD kicks some a**
Laybourn/Juhl v Mateusiak/Kostiuczyk
Clark/Kellogg v Rizal/Polii - (match of the day)
Eirksen/Schjoldager v Hwang/Jung
Blair/Munt v Paaske/Nielsen
Lee/Lee v He/Pan


i hope taufik won't get provoked by bad linesmen (if any) :D .
i think taufik will win either KO or HK open

Lets start from MS(Round of 16)
Hashim Roslin vs Park Sung Hwan-- if he can continue with his today performance, i do think he can win but beware of the opponent

Chen Yu vs Simon Santosa-- i think he can win and stand a bigger chance

PalyamaDicky vs Bao Chun Lai-- Of course he should win,if not..who???
Taufik Hidayat vs Lee Hyun ll-- i think that taufik is still powerful espiacally without a strong opponent-LCW...but this is Lee Hyun ll hometown..so...

Ayob Sairul Amar vs Asuncion Kennevic--What do you all think???

Kenneth Jonassan vs Shon Seung Mo-- The olympic bronze medallist should win

Boonsak Posana vs Hwang Jung Wong-- I hope Boonsak to win

Jang Young Soo vs Sapkul Chananart Poompay-- I do both of them...so...what do you think..
MD
He Han Bin/Shen Ye vs Sakamoto Shuichi/Ikeda Shintaro-- The china pair should win

Lindley David/Langridge Chris vs Kwon Yi Goo/Kim Soo Min--I can't predict this

Mohd Tazari Mohd Fairuzizuan/Lin Woon Hui vs Yoo Yeon Seong/Jeon Jun Burn-- if they perform well,they have a slight edge

Clark Anthony/Blair Robert vs Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man--Of course the korean pair should win...But anything would happened..Lets wait and see

Kido Markis/Setiawan Hendra vs Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen--Don't forget..they are the ex world champion

Ong Soon Hock/Tan Bin Shen vs Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae--The Malaysia pair can only gain experience...the korea young pair is strong..

Xie Zhong Bo/Guo Zhen Dong vs Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya--They have an equally chance but the indo/usa pair have a slight edge

Flandy Limpele/Sigit Budiarto vs Koo Kien Kiet/Chan Chong Ming--this expected to be a interesting match but i can't predict.. i hope the Mas pair can win

shon seung mo is OG silver medallist not bronze...

Oh...sorry for my mistake...Thank you KZ..

I agree with you 95%.

My predicted winner listed to the left.

MS
Poompat v Jang Young Soo - could be close


Here I would pick Jang


MD
Xie/Guo v Tony/Candra - a cracker this one, I predict based on Xie/Guo being a long-established pair and not a bad pair, too while Tony/Chandra may be a wee bit rusty


Tony/Candra should become better after training together. While Xie/Guo is a pair supposed to disfunction. They have not play as double for a while, and this time, only because they have the ticket to go WC.

Xie/Guo is not supposed to be good, not only because they will not play together in the future, but also Xie has not fully recovered from injury. Both Xie and Guo wants to play with Zheng Bo, who seems to be a very good double player, but cannot go along with Sang Yang, and failed to win anything big. Now Sang Yang seems not as valuable as Zheng Bo. There are a lot of decent players want to pair with Zheng Bo, including Xie ZB, Guo ZD, Gong WJ,... I don't think Coach has made final decision yet. In the HKO, Guo will pair with Xu Chen, while Xie will skip. A lot of people, including themselves, pointed out that Xie/Guo combination lacks chemistry, but has a lot of pitfalls and shortcomings. They may win several matches, but to win 6 matches in a row, seems to be a problem.

PalyamaDicky vs Bao Chun Lai-- Of course he should win,if not..who???This is no doubt a sound prediction; however, Palyama did beat Bao here two years ago at about the same stage in the tournament!

right, here are the predictions i disagree with for MD:

Lee/Hwang v Clark/Blair
i think the experience of the english pair will prevail ...

Kido/Setiawan v Paaske/Rasmussen - tough one (match of the day)
agreed match of the day, again would expect the danes to pull through ...

Xie/Guo v Tony/Candra
this is a close contender for match of the day as well, hmmmm, but based on past performances, i think the indonesians will be too strong ...

all in all, MD is looking to be much more interesting than the other categories, although i would love to see reiko and kumiko play the chinese in WD.
someone please record and post that match!

This is no doubt a sound prediction; however, Palyama did beat Bao here two years ago at about the same stage in the tournament!

it's prolly because BCL has improved so much over the last 2 years ... along with many of the younger CHN MS players ...

I agree with you 95%.



Here I would pick Jang



Tony/Candra should become better after training together. While Xie/Guo is a pair supposed to disfunction. They have not play as double for a while, and this time, only because they have the ticket to go WC.

Xie/Guo is not supposed to be good, not only because they will not play together in the future, but also Xie has not fully recovered from injury. Both Xie and Guo wants to play with Zheng Bo, who seems to be a very good double player, but cannot go along with Sang Yang, and failed to win anything big. Now Sang Yang seems not as valuable as Zheng Bo. There are a lot of decent players want to pair with Zheng Bo, including Xie ZB, Guo ZD, Gong WJ,... I don't think Coach has made final decision yet. In the HKO, Guo will pair with Xu Chen, while Xie will skip. A lot of people, including themselves, pointed out that Xie/Guo combination lacks chemistry, but has a lot of pitfalls and shortcomings. They may win several matches, but to win 6 matches in a row, seems to be a problem.

Very interesting about the Zheng Bo situation. I always wonder why China still do not have a consistent 2nd men doubles. Zheng Bo and XZB are both good in mixed doubles, so the logical thing would be for them to continue with Guo / Xie or pair up Guo with Zheng. You very rarely see two good mixed doubles player pairing up for the men or women doubles (except the English team)

Yes yes I second that... someone pleeeeeeeeeeeese be kind enough to record and post reiko/kumiko matches? :D Hmm... where be the "begging" emoticon...


all in all, MD is looking to be much more interesting than the other categories, although i would love to see reiko and kumiko play the chinese in WD.
someone please record and post that match!

hcyong & Jessica, first off just want to say thanks for your initiative in taking over the previews task..hope you'll continue til the Finals Day..;)
right, here are the predictions i disagree with for MD:
Kido/Setiawan v Paaske/Rasmussen - tough one (match of the day)
agreed match of the day, again would expect the danes to pull through ...

Xie/Guo v Tony/Candra
this is a close contender for match of the day as well, hmmmm, but based on past performances, i think the indonesians will be too strong ...
yes, i concur here with this analysis...The MD events will be quite a spectacle..Paaske and Rasmussen will be victorious because of their experience, but it's 50-50. As far as Tony/Candra goes, i think they should win and advance to the QF and await their former compatriots in Flandy/Sigit. Personally, I will be surprised if those 4 former/current Pelatnas players don't meet in the QF..;) :rolleyes:
all in all, MD is looking to be much more interesting than the other categories, although i would love to see reiko and kumiko play the chinese in WD. someone please record and post that match!
concur also, i think the match between JPN's top pair and CHN's pair will be a barn burner as well. The CHN's pair is not their strongest, so i think the JPN pair has a chance & can match them blow by blow; it could be a close affair, possible a nail-biter til the end..;):cool:

These are my predictions for the matches:

MS
Roslin v Park SH - The Korean is dangerous because he is at his home ground. It will take an extraordinary effort for Roslin to overcome him.
Chen Yu v Simon - Simon seems to be in good shape in this tournament. He should be able to win if he holds his nerve. He is technically just as good or even better than Chen Yu.
Kenneth v Shon - Kenneth's excellent court covering abilities will prevail.
Boonsak v Hwang Joon Woon - Boonsak's tricky shots will get him through to the next round.
Bao v Dicky - It is not even a question! Bao will win. He is better in every aspect.
Lee HI v Taufik - I would like TH to win, but his lack of competitive plays can be crucial.
Sairul v Kennevic - Not interesting enough to watch.

MD
He/Shen v Sakamoto/Ikeda - Not sure who the hell are they.
Lindley/Langridge v Han/Kang - Hate Lindley/Langridge for beating Luluk/Alven.
Fairuz/Lin v Yoo/Jeon - Fairuz/Lin can be the next big thing for Malaysia.
Lee/Hwang v Clark/Blair - I will root for Lee/Hwang
Kido/Setiawan v Paaske/Rasmussen - Time for Kido/Setiawan to prove that they are part of the INNER CIRCLE.
Jung/Lee v Ong/Tan - Jung's experience and Lee's talent are huge here and they will undoubtedly crush Ong/Tan.
Xie/Guo v Tony/Candra - Is it even a question? When two geniuses are reunited, they are invincible!
Koo/Chan v Flandi/Sigit - Flandi/Sigit will get the job done.

WD
Yang/Zhang v Kimiko/Reiko - those poor things
Chin/Wong v Chou/Ku
Emms/Kellogg v Nedelcheva/Dimova
Nurlita/Poluakan v Augustyn/Kostiuczyk - can never remember the spelling
Pan/Tian v Novita/Polii - Polii will save the day! I strongly believe she is the next big thing in the Lady's department in Indonesia.
Cheng/Chien v Suetsuna/Maeda
Saralee/Sathinee v Parker/Day
Lee/Lee v Andersen/Schjoldager

XD
Widianto/Natsir v Kindervater/Piotrowski - They are not World Champion for nothing.
Sudket/Saralee v Shen/Tian
Lee/Hwang v Rasmussen/Andersen
Laybourn/Juhl v Mateusiak/Kostiuczyk
Clark/Kellogg v Rizal/Polii - Interesting match. A young pairing against oldy. Aggressiveness will prevail over experience.
Eirksen/Schjoldager v Hwang/Jung
Blair/Munt v Paaske/Nielsen
Lee/Lee v He/Pan

MD
He/Shen v Sakamoto/Ikeda - Not sure who the hell are they.
Well, among other things, He/Shen are the guys who took out the defending champions and world #1 in the first round.

They took the defending champion and world #1? Wow, that is new to me. Who is the current #1 anyway? Cai/Fu? Eriksen/Lundgaard?

They took the defending champion and world #1? Wow, that is new to me. Who is the current #1 anyway? Cai/Fu? ?Eriksen/Lundgaard.

Oh I see. Thank's for the info. Well, looking forward to today's games. They will be pretty exciting.

Seems like total anarchy here since badMania left. Everyone coming up with their own predications.

I predict a KJ vs TH final & TH to win :D

This is no doubt a sound prediction; however, Palyama did beat Bao here two years ago at about the same stage in the tournament!

Wow! I didn't know Dicky Palyama ever beat a marquee player!

Wow! I didn't know Dicky Palyama ever beat a marquee player!

Unfortunately, of late Dicky hasn't been playing well, whereas Bao has been quite consistent although he did not win, but came close to it on a few occasions, I think.

MS
i predict Chen Yu win the top half and Taufik or Chunlai winning the other half.

MD
Lee/Hwang (korean also have strong D pair, moreover they r playing at home)
or Mohd/Lin or m'sia winning the top half

Gunawan/Widjaya (my favourite 2 D players) or Koo/Chan the lower half.
My bet to the US team.

whats the difference between HK/M'sian time and korean? how many hrs?

no peter, lee chong wei n lindan ...so if taufik can beat hyun il, he will win this tournament ... but i want simon santoso to win this one ..... first he beat chen yu then park then he must beat kenneth jonassen n beat taufik in final, hehehehe

According the web : Nova/Lilyana advance to QF after beat GER's pair with straight set 21-9 ; 21-15 and face Thai's Sudket/Saralee tomorrow. Bravo INA! And Koreans pair LeeYD/HwangYM will meet TLaybourn/KRytter-Juhl in QF spot. Anyway, KOR time 1 hour ahead from MAS/HKG time -- the schedule mention today's match starting 02.00pm (KOR time) in MAS/HKG exactly 01.00pm and 12.00pm in Jakarta.

no peter, lee chong wei n lindan ...so if taufik can beat hyun il, he will win this tournament ... but i want simon santoso to win this one ..... first he beat chen yu then park then he must beat kenneth jonassen n beat taufik in final, hehehehe

what happened to lcw and peter ? did they just walkover ?

peter wo, lee cw lost already ...

XD
Widianto/Natsir v Kindervater/Piotrowski
Sudket/Saralee v Shen/Tian
Lee/Hwang v Rasmussen/Andersen - Koreans were impressive in Thailand; Lee YD kicks some a**
Laybourn/Juhl v Mateusiak/Kostiuczyk
Clark/Kellogg v Rizal/Polii - (match of the day)
Eirksen/Schjoldager v Hwang/Jung
Blair/Munt v Paaske/Nielsen
Lee/Lee v He/Pan

Spot on. Shen/Tian showed good promise stretching the Thais.

WS
Xu HW v Julia Wong - could give a run for the money
Saina v Soratja
Pi HY v Hwang Hye Young
Lu Lan v Cheng Shao-Chieh - could give run for money
Zhu Lin v Meemek
Hirose v Yao Jie - hard to predict, this one (match of the day)
Hallam v Kanako - another hard one
Wong MC v Salakjit


62.5% strike rate (5 out of 8).
Soratja defeated Mori and then Saina. Maybe she has already upstaged Salakjit. Interesting prospect. Wonder how old she is.
Hwang Hye Youn defeated Pi HY. European ex-Chinese seem to be struggling. Xu also struggled against Julia. Or maybe the also-runs have caught up.
Kanako defeated Hallam.
Also good to see a 64-draw (never mind some byes) WS event. It means the women players are getting more numerous now. And quality seems to have improved overall. Good for competition.

peter wo, lee cw lost already ...

Who did they lose to ?

Roslin win over Park Sung Hwan 12-21,21-18,21-17. Wong Mew Choo also win 19-21,21-19,21-8.The other two MS who go to another round are Shon Seung Mo and Boonsak Posana...

Jess, where do u get the lastest result?

MS
Roslin v Park SH - could be close
Chen Yu v Simon - could be close too
Kenneth v Shon
Boonsak v Hwang Joon Woon


MS top half completed. Prediction 75% strike.
Roslin took 70 mins. to beat Park SH. The old man still got it. Somehow, players who leave BAM tend to play better. Probably because all the pressure is off, no expectations also.
Chen Yu also took a hard time to beat Simon.
Surprisingly, Kenneth got thrashed by Shon.
Boonsak easy victory.

Who did they lose to ?

Peter withdrew from the tournament. LCW lost to Roslin.

Wong Mew Choo won! She's being superb these days... A great consolation for what had happened to Malaysian men's singles..

Roslin, keep it up!

Anybody knows the result of the match between Taufik and Lee Hyun Il?

Anybody knows what happaned with the match between taufik and li hyun ill?

Good stuffs from MAS ladies.

WMC in QF and CEH/WPT as well.

It will be tough for the WD pair tomorrow against CHN top seed YangWei/Zhang Jiewen. Head to head shows 0 to 4 in favour of the chinese pair.

LHI beats TH 19:21,23:21,21:16 :mad:

Anybody knows what happaned with the match between taufik and li hyun ill?

TH loss! it last 74"

LHI beats TH 19:21,23:21,21:16 :mad:

Sairul will play LHI for place in semis tomorrow. :D

LHI beats TH 19:21,23:21,21:16 :mad:

Alrite, here goes our badminton greats...

TH loss! it last 74"

wow, must be a thrilling match.

haha tat is good if got video

MS
Poompat v Jang Young Soo - could be close
Bao v Dicky
Lee HI v Taufik - TH likes to award wins to the home nation players, right? also, match of the day
Sairul v Kennevic - the weakest match of the round


MS bottom half.
Jang, Bao and Sairul won easily.
Lee HI took more than 70 mins. to beat Taufik. I think Taufik may be peaking nicely for the WC.

LHI beats TH 19:21,23:21,21:16 :mad:

:( Ah well, I'll go for Boonsak Ponsana now :cool:

please tell me someone is recording some of these great matches!
i would love to see the LHI v TH match ...

hhmmmm th lost to LHI :(

th must improve the stamina for playing 3 sets

must be one hell of a match!
good for lhi then,,

LHI beats TH 19:21,23:21,21:16 :mad:

i don't think this is much of a surprise. LHI is a quality player, and TH has been inconsistent this year. plus with home support, i think LHI will take the title this year, considering he should have a relatively easy game against Sairul and be fresher for the semis.

hhmmmm th lost to LHI :(

th must improve the stamina for playing 3 sets

Not to worry. As what hcyong has said, TH is peaking at the right time for his big event - the WC! ;)

Not to worry. As what hcyong has said, TH is peaking at the right time for his big event - the WC! ;)
hope so. 3 games seem all really close, should be a nice match.

hhmmmm th lost to LHI :(

th must improve the stamina for playing 3 sets
let's wait for hongkong open,it's very likely that he and lindan will meet in the 2nd round, it will be interesting

let's wait for hongkong open,it's very likely that he and lindan will meet in the 2nd round, it will be interesting

yes... the real final will come early :D

Hei..guys...remembet to watch the live broadcasting tomorrow...

MD
He/Shen bt Sakamoto/Ikeda 17:21,21:15,21:16

Lindley/Landgridge bt Han/Kang 22:20,21:14

Yoo/Jeon bt Tazari/Lin 21:14,19:21,24:22 (very close match)

Lee/Hwang bt Clark/Blair 18:21,21:13,21:19

Kido/Setiawan bt Paaske/Rasmussen 21:17,13:21,21:16

MD
He/Shen bt Sakamoto/Ikeda 17:21,21:15,21:16

Lindley/Landgridge bt Han/Kang 22:20,21:14

Yoo/Jeon bt Tazari/Lin 21:14,19:21,24:22 (very close match)

Lee/Hwang bt Clark/Blair 18:21,21:13,21:19

Kido/Setiawan bt Paaske/Rasmussen 21:17,13:21,21:16

yeah, the koreans are doing very well on their home soil. expect Lee/Jung to join the other 2 pairs soon.

MD
He/Shen bt Sakamoto/Ikeda 17:21,21:15,21:16

Lindley/Landgridge bt Han/Kang 22:20,21:14

Yoo/Jeon bt Tazari/Lin 21:14,19:21,24:22 (very close match)

Lee/Hwang bt Clark/Blair 18:21,21:13,21:19

Kido/Setiawan bt Paaske/Rasmussen 21:17,13:21,21:16

thanks for the update :D

aha, as expected, JUNG / LEE bt ONG / TAN - 21:13,21:10

Wouldn't it be amazing if the KO is won by an outsider like Ayob or Roslin ?

Probability is low but at the moment, there is still a possibility. Roslin may be close to capturing his old form coz he certainly works hard enough.

Beating LCW was a good surprise but maybe it is deeper than we thought, Roslin could be really playing great. If he wins this, it would really be true.

I am going to wish him the best in this -- may he win this 6-star Open.

ah, TG / CW vs CCM / KKK in the QF.
this should be a cracker!

But LCW become the world no1 again this week but isn't there are no any matches this few weeks???How come he can gain 2000++ points...???

ah, TG / CW vs CCM / KKK in the QF.
this should be a cracker!

Same scoreline for those two matches???

Same scoreline for those two matches???

haha, that is bizzare, isn't it? but not impossible. time taken also only differred by 1 minute ...

ah, TG / CW vs CCM / KKK in the QF.
this should be a cracker!


TG/CW still show their best form, i think they wil be the KO champion

But LCW become the world no1 again this week but isn't there are no any matches this few weeks???How come he can gain 2000++ points...???

LCW played in Indonesian Open this year and reached round 3 which gained him 2000++ points.:D

it seem only lindan can win the world champion in madrid ...no peter gade, no taufik n no lee chong wei .....

it seem only lindan can win the world champion in madrid ...no peter gade, no taufik n no lee chong wei .....

ha..ha

i know you are LIN dan Fan :D

Well done SSM and LHI!

Good day for Korea?

Wong Mew Choo won! She's being superb these days... A great consolation for what had happened to Malaysian men's singles..

Roslin, keep it up!What happened? Look at what is still happening. I hate all this lamenting Lee Chong Wei. Let's be glad for Roslin. He did a great job against Park today, too. Sairul hasn't been really tested much yet but we're looking forward to great things from him tomorrow. He and Roslin are both real fighters.

Wong is doing great. So sad she had to beat Salakjit so early, though. I was rooting for the latter too.

Xu had trouble again today against Julia. Even more serious than yesterday against Lee Yun-hwa. Yao was similarly in trouble against Hirose but she didn't pull herself out of it.

Chen Yu also took a hard time to beat Simon.Simon was dominating in the first game and had 3 or so match points in the second but just couldn't finish it. It looked like he lost the mental game. So close but without the proverbial cigar. Too bad. Where on earth are the Indonesian fans? None have shown up so far. Last year we had fans even in the early rounds.
Wow! I didn't know Dicky Palyama ever beat a marquee player!Palyama had the crowd behind him in 2004 when he beat Bao. I personally was cheering like crazy and a large group of Koreans were inspired by the mettle shown by the underdog against the giant Chinese seeded player. I don't think there were Korean players playing at that time, though, and today there were. Cheering is awkward for me this time around. Palyama definitely had a chance at it again, though.

WMC is going great guns in KO. Let's hope she continue her great run all the way to the finals. I believe we Malaysian would love to see a MAS woman win something this big, like a 6-star tournament. Imagine how much she has benefitted from a great sparring partner like Zhou Mi in such a short time frame of less than 3 weeks. What surprises me most is Julia Wong. Given time, she will surely nurtures into a force to be reckons with in future. Great work ladies... I am eager yet patiently awaits for good news from you gals :)

Spot on. Shen/Tian showed good promise stretching the Thais.

62.5% strike rate (5 out of 8).
Soratja defeated Mori and then Saina. Maybe she has already upstaged Salakjit. Interesting prospect. Wonder how old she is.
Hwang Hye Youn defeated Pi HY. European ex-Chinese seem to be struggling. Xu also struggled against Julia. Or maybe the also-runs have caught up.
Kanako defeated Hallam.
Also good to see a 64-draw (never mind some byes) WS event. It means the women players are getting more numerous now. And quality seems to have improved overall. Good for competition.


Soratja is 21 years old this year.
A year 3 political science major in Kasesart University.
I think the 1st 3 WS in the Thai team are quite similar in standards now.
In addition,Soratja,Salakjitr and Monthila(WS) have participated in Thailand Satellite in April but Soratja won the women's singles title eventually.

Sairul hasn't been really tested much yet but we're looking forward to great things from him tomorrow. He and Roslin are both real fighters.


Sairul a fighter? I must have caught him on a bad day, because in the all england 2006 he was lethargic and disinterested, good racket skills, but not much fight.

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What happened? Look at what is still happening. I hate all this lamenting Lee Chong Wei. Let's be glad for Roslin. He did a great job against Park today, too. Sairul hasn't been really tested much yet but we're looking forward to great things from him tomorrow. He and Roslin are both real fighters.

Wong is doing great. So sad she had to beat Salakjit so early, though. I was rooting for the latter too.

Xu had trouble again today against Julia. Even more serious than yesterday against Lee Yun-hwa. Yao was similarly in trouble against Hirose but she didn't pull herself out of it.

Oh, really? :rolleyes: I didn't quite see any fans get really pissed off because Lee Chong Wei was lack of form...

By the way, we love Wong Mew Choo in action and I hope she does well to appear maybe in the final

And Roslin, we wished him good luck but I'm not quite convinced that he can actually march into the final

MS bottom half.
Jang, Bao and Sairul won easily.
Lee HI took more than 70 mins. to beat Taufik. I think Taufik may be peaking nicely for the WC.
hmm, not surprise either by this result, congrats to LeeHI..;)
wow, 70+ min(must be the "match of the day", excellent!) And looking at the scoreboard, seemed to be a lot of rallies for it to last that long..:cool:..hmm, on that note, this is probably the longest workout TH has gone through since his win at the recent Indonesian Open Final(against BCL) or maybe even the Thomas Cup(against Shoji Sato)?!?!..;) :p :D

It has been a 3 strike out for Taufik to LYI. Thomas cup, Thailand, and now Korea. I hope he's not following LCW's path of only winning in home country.:p

ah, TG / CW vs CCM / KKK in the QF.
this should be a cracker!
hmm, a bit surprised(i have to see the scoreboard of the match between SB/FL vs. KKK/CCM...Nevertheless, the upcoming QF, between TG/CW vs. CCM/KKK, should be quite fun also..;) :cool:

It has been a 3 strike out for Taufik to LYI. Thomas cup, Thailand, and now Korea. I hope he's not following LCW's path of only winning in home country.:p
hmm, it's not that difficult to beat TH. His weakness is that he tends to "laze-off" during a match or is not know for his stamina..On that note, if you get him to play against a player who is eager and diligent in chasing all the shuttles, that player can give a lot of trouble to Taufik..Also, actually TH has been having quite a bit of trouble esp. against southpaws(left-handers)-ie. BCL(went winless or only 1 win against BCL) and now LHI..It took him a few times but he was able to overcome his hard time against BCL until recently in the Indonesian Open..

hmm, it's not that difficult to beat TH. His weakness is that he tends to "laze-off" during a match or is not know for his stamina..On that note, if you get him to play against a player who is eager and diligent in chasing all the shuttles, that player can give a lot of trouble to Taufik

I Agree.

If you have good enough speed to cope with Taufik at first and good enough defence to extend the rallies and play accurate well placed shots then he is easier to beat.

Bao is Very quick and accurate with his placement, and LHI is very good defensively and controlling the shuttle and pace of the game.

I think proabably the left handed thing is coincidence.

hmm, not surprise either by this result, congrats to LeeHI..;)
wow, 70+ min(must be the "match of the day", excellent!) And looking at the scoreboard, seemed to be a lot of rallies for it to last that long


as an aside is this the longest MS match under new scoring system?

It has been a 3 strike out for Taufik to LYI. Thomas cup, Thailand, and now Korea. I hope he's not following LCW's path of only winning in home country.:p

I have followed badminton for quite a few years. Except OG and WC, Taufik could only win at home. Mostly at INA, one or two, at neighbouring country Singapore. He never win any open tournaments in Europe, Greater China (including China mainland, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan), Japan, Korea, or west of the world. :p :p :p

LCW should have won something outside Malaysia :)

I have followed badminton for quite a few years. Except OG and WC, Taufik could only win at home. Mostly at INA, one or two, at neighbouring country Singapore. He never win any open tournaments in Europe, Greater China (including China mainland, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan), Japan, Korea, or west of the world. :p :p :p

LCW should have won something outside Malaysia :)

Yes, LCW has won Denmark open and Swiss open ! Great job! :D :D :D

I always think the so call Olympic game is the lowest level and also the most un-predictable. Because 1st, fewer players; 2nd, most of them are representors from under-developed countries in badminton; 3rd, many decent players, like Chen Yu(never), Chen Hong(2000), not there; 4th, no prize for the winner.

Taufik did win olympic, but that is not that difficult, because he didn't meet Lin Dan (the #1), Chen Hong (#2, and rule the whole year of 2003), and Bao CL (#3, beat Taufic many times). I think the strongest points for Taufik are his mental toughness, and his experience. I just studied the vedio, (by calculating frame by frame), then I found that his smash is not as powerful, not as speedy as Lin Dan and Chen Hong. ;)

hmm, it's not that difficult to beat TH. His weakness is that he tends to "laze-off" during a match or is not know for his stamina..On that note, if you get him to play against a player who is eager and diligent in chasing all the shuttles, that player can give a lot of trouble to Taufik..Also, actually TH has been having quite a bit of trouble esp. against southpaws(left-handers)-ie. BCL(went winless or only 1 win against BCL) and now LHI..It took him a few times but he was able to overcome his hard time against BCL until recently in the Indonesian Open..

Yes, TH also have problems against Wong CH (left hander ) and he even lost to Lee Tsuen Seng (left hander) during 2002 Guangzhou Thomas Cup.:D

I think proabably the left handed thing is coincidence.
possibly, but the trend has been and is still there for TH..of course, the opponent must be a "worthy" one also..
Yes, TH also have problems against Wong CH (left hander ) and he even lost to Lee Tsuen Seng (left hander) during 2002 Guangzhou Thomas Cup.
oh yeah, skipped in my mind, those players also..And don't forget his *current* #1 nemesis, LinDan, another southpaw..;)TH actually had difficulties competing with/beating him, until last yr at the Singapore Open & then the WC...On that note, i'm sure he'll figure out & beat LHI one of these days, if he's able to meet him again..:p :rolleyes: ;)

Taufik did win olympic, but that is not that difficult, because he didn't meet Lin Dan (the #1), Chen Hong (#2, and rule the whole year of 2003), and Bao CL (#3, beat Taufic many times). I think the strongest points for Taufik are his mental toughness, and his experience. I just studied the vedio, (by calculating frame by frame), then I found that his smash is not as powerful, not as speedy as Lin Dan and Chen Hong. ;)

Guys, let's not downplay Taufik's Olympic victory. He took on in-form players (WongCH, Gade and Boonsak) on the way in. Where was Lin Dan, came unstuck against Susilo (who lost to Boonsak) .... :mad: Chen Hong, barely passed LCW (who had not yet shown his full potential) and got blasted by SSM ...

Taufik's smash may not be most powerful, but the angle is difficult to counteract, as WongCH found out in Athens ...

I have followed badminton for quite a few years. Except OG and WC, Taufik could only win at home. Mostly at INA, one or two, at neighbouring country Singapore. He never win any open tournaments in Europe, Greater China (including China mainland, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan), Japan, Korea, or west of the world. :p :p :p

LCW should have won something outside Malaysia :)
mm... now that is just a bias statement:rolleyes:.. Taufik can only win on home soil?
Who says he never won in Korea? He beat LHI in his homegroudn in asian game 2002 didn't he? I think to win in Athens and Anaheim, which is like a once off event is good enough.. not even LD world #1 can claim he has won in these locations..

Those with weaker backhands may find southpaws more difficult to handle. But not for Taufik who can inflict a great deal of problems even with his backhand!

Those with weaker backhands may find southpaws more difficult to handle. But not for Taufik who can inflict a great deal of problems even with his backhand!
hmm, sorry Loh, but do you mind explaining the logic of this one, at least to me??..:p ;)

I have followed badminton for quite a few years. Except OG and WC....
i happen to think these are the most important 2 events in badminton:)

hmm, sorry Loh, but do you mind explaining the logic of this one, at least to me??..:p ;)

OK, it is not very glaring and it is only my own observation. And I'm a right hander, unfortunately.

If you can draw a chart or just visualize/picture it: At the start of a singles game, with both players standing in their respective right courts diagonally opposite, the left handed player can capitalize by attacking his right handed opponent's backhand with his left forehand much easier.

Additionally, if his opponent could not cover his left court fast enough, he is at a greater disadvantage of being attacked on his backhand. But if his opponent has a strong backhand (like Taufik's), it will not be as effective for the southpaw.

Conversely the righthanded player can attack his left handed opponent in the reverse, when they play on their respective Left courts. In the LHI versus TH match, it would appear that both players' backhands were not found wanting or that they were able to limit the number of attacks to their BH.

I don't think I could make it clearer and as I said, this is my personal observation. :p

OK, it is not very glaring and it is only my own observation. And I'm a right hander, unfortunately.

Conversely the righthanded player can attack his left handed opponent in the reverse, when they play on their respective Left courts. In the LHI versus TH match, it would appear that both players' backhands were not found wanting or that they were able to limit the number of attacks to their BH.

I don't think I could make it clearer and as I said, this is my personal observation. :p
OK, I see, thanks for your clarification Loh...;) So, in that case, you were specifically referring to:
1. A righty vs. lefty players situation, not a righty vs. righty or lefty vs. lefty players situations..
2. And more in the initial serving/receiving mode...
3. And most likely in a Single game mode..
Just like your example which i've highlighted in bold, it can also go the other way for "northpaws"(right-handed) vs. southpaws, correct??..:)

Right on, Chris!

74 minutes and TH lost. What a failure, the problem must be TH's stamina was left behind LHI. But try to pisitive thinking : maybe TH is only hunger about WChamp title not others. I feel LHI is very well understand now how to beat TH, good improve!

from another post, different thread..
Let's hope the Korean officials will not be carried away and become partisan in their line calls. Let's hope they have learned from their past experience and that neutral officials will be used during the crucial stages of the tournament to avoid unnecessary incidents.
74 minutes and TH lost. What a failure, the problem must be TH's stamina was left behind LHI. But try to pisitive thinking : maybe TH is only hunger about WChamp title not others. I feel LHI is very well understand now how to beat TH, good improve!
Well, don't know if anyone read it already, but there's a new article at the IBF's official website which mentioned abt TH's R16 match against LHI (http://www.internationalbadminton.org/newscontent.asp?pageid={82954C7F-5E83-43CE-AD2E-ABEF7A3637B0}). Perhaps event can elaborate or tell us more abt the incident. In it, it's deja vu all over again as Taufik cited the "unfair" line calls during the 2nd set which he also got angry. After the match ended, he said "he'll probably not come to the Korea Open anymore"...hmm..:rolleyes: :p

I Have no first hand experience of the line calls here, but I imagine it is well known from past experiences that line calls possibly may not be as impartial at other tournaments, so there may be a small case of the reputation adding to the calls. Unfair calls happen in all tournaments after all.

Can you think of any other world class sporting event where members of the public can take such an active part in the game and potentially affect the result?

It makes it even more farsical that previously the umpires could not overule line judges!

I wasn't right near the court where Lee and Taufik were playing so I didn't actually see the line calls. Taufik was complaining and he made the same vow not to come back after the Asian Games in 2004. I saw those replays on TV and the calls he complained about were terrible. A good one or two inches out and the line judge called them in.

Pi had similar complaints when she was playing against Hwang Hye-youn but she was getting very frustrated because she was, in fact, putting an incredible number of shots out.

Sairul was the worst. He literally gave up in his match against Lee yesterday. He got yellow carded for throwing his racquet and then intentionally drove the shuttle into the net to lose on game point (he was several points behind anyway). Then he didn't seem to be trying in the second game at all, which was too bad because his reputation is as a fighter.

Roslin felt he was under the gun against Park but he was much smarter about it. He had a similar complaint that Jonassen had against Shon Seung-mo, which was that the Korean players were celebrating about shots going out before the line judges had made the call. Roslin picked up on that and started doing it at least as much as Park. He also played better than Park and did a whole lot more running than Sairul did in his match. Both Chen and Roslin had complaints about the line judges in their match yesterday and in that cases you wouldn't expect the partisanship accusation.

Umpires have made corrections in several matches, including one at a crucial point in a match involving a Korean pair and going against them. I have seen cases of bad line calls by judges and ones that I am sure were correct but still brought complaints by the players. Since a lot of players complain here, we might say that where there's smoke, there's fire. On the other hand, I wonder whether the players are seeing more smoke than there really is. After all, to extend the analogy, I could say that where there's smoke, people are more likely to listen when you yell "fire". In other words, with all the complaints in the past, people seem ready to believe that Korea line judges are biased.

I think they are doing a good job on the whole. The hardest to call are cross-court shots, especially smashes. A player inside the court has, I think a better view when the shuttle is out than a line judge looking directly down the line because the player can see that patch of green between the white line and the white cork of the shuttle. The line judge can't see that at all and can't guess well because of the angle the shuttle is leaning at. Chen Yu did a lot of those shots and had a lot of complaints about the calls made on them. He was playing Roslin at the time.

Well Event,

They say 1 past wrong takes 10 rights to fix.

Korea seems to have the worst line judging reputation, while china has the team match fixing rep, Malaysia the Village Champ tag, more Asian countries on cheating in Jrs Age reputation, and etc..........

Only time and good showing can cure past wounds eh???

Well Event,

They say 1 past wrong takes 10 rights to fix.

Korea seems to have the worst line judging reputation, while china has the team match fixing rep, Malaysia the Village Champ tag, more Asian countries on cheating in Jrs Age reputation, and etc..........

Only time and good showing can cure past wounds eh???

Usually, if both Chinese players to meet up and the winner will face the next opponent whom is a non China player, they will play the first game and the loser will loose out easily in the second game to save some energy for his/her countryman.:D

I wasn't right near the court where Lee and Taufik were playing so I didn't actually see the line calls. Taufik was complaining and he made the same vow not to come back after the Asian Games in 2004. I saw those replays on TV and the calls he complained about were terrible. A good one or two inches out and the line judge called them in.
event, thanks for the recap of what you saw...sorry again to ask, maybe i couldn't really follow, but when you said "I saw those replays on TV and the calls he complained about were terrible. A good 1 or 2 inches out and the line judge called them in", are you referring to the 2004 Asian Games where Taufik played in Korea??..or are you referring to this year's KO??..:confused:

event, thanks for the recap of what you saw...sorry again to ask, maybe i couldn't really follow, but when you said "I saw those replays on TV and the calls he complained about were terrible. A good 1 or 2 inches out and the line judge called them in", are you referring to the 2004 Asian Games where Taufik played in Korea??..or are you referring to this year's KO??..:confused:I'm talking about the 2004 Asian Games.
Korea seems to have the worst line judging reputationThis may be true but I think China has a pretty bad reputation too. I remember some awful calls at the Sudirman Cup in 2005.

Sairul was the worst. He literally gave up in his match against Lee yesterday. He got yellow carded for throwing his racquet and then intentionally drove the shuttle into the net to lose on game point (he was several points behind anyway). Then he didn't seem to be trying in the second game at all

That sounds like the sairul I saw.