Who will win Men's Single in WC2006? [Archive] - Badminton Central Discussion Forums

vsdelfin

09-02-2006, 07:10 AM

t3tsubo

09-02-2006, 09:21 AM

Nice post vsdelfin.
I think Peter isnt as smart as Taufik though, hes more well rounded + fast.
Lin DAN!
2ed vote would be Taufik though.

Dreamzz

09-02-2006, 09:24 AM

got to say LD, he's just the most consistent this year ...
i hope someone else does beat him though! :p

kokcheng

09-02-2006, 10:20 AM

My choice would definitely be Chong Wei because he has the most repertoire of strokes.he is highly skilful and Lin Dan is exposing his weaknesses constantly.That's good for him because there is someone out there to improve his game.It's alright to lose but learnt to be a better player.I predict he has a good chance as lin dan,taufik and peter gade to win the championship in Spain.With a little bit of luck,Chong Wei can be the world champion.

zqloy

09-02-2006, 11:54 AM

jump_smashing

09-02-2006, 12:01 PM

Lin Dan is quite strong temporary & difficult to beat.
But of course Lee Chong Wei, Peter Gade and Taufik are there also.....

Hope the best win

ctjcad

09-02-2006, 12:22 PM

I think Peter Gade will be the World Champion.

There is realy just two things stopping PG from winning the WC: his knee and his luck. Skipping both the Korea Open and the Thailand Open, I think his knee should have gotten better already. As for luck, he has been close to winning the WC three times already, lady luck has got to smile the fourth time around.
vsdelfin, i can't believe i'm in agreement with you on this one, esp. after your take in the HK Open sub-forum...:rolleyes: :p
Anyways, yah, i think since Peter will be practically playing "in his backyard" and after getting quite a bit of time to rest his body and train more, he should be ready to go and capture this title. Add to that, with a lucky draw, he could finally get it..
Last yr in the WC Semis, he lost to LinDan in a very competitive 3 setters, as i was there to witness it also. Considering his age(as the "oldest" challenger for the title), I thought his stamina was the reason for his defeat.
Too bad though, as i thought if he would've overcame LD, he probably would give Taufik a run for his money for the title.

2cents

09-02-2006, 07:42 PM

Chen Jin, of course. He has been quiet for a while. Disappointing me once, twice, but not the 3rd time.

As he claimed himself, if he plays at the usual level in training, he should win the title (he meant HKO). I don't think any CHN player better than him, while CHN players are already the best in the world. So there is no reason for him to lose, I mean, lose again.

merlin

09-02-2006, 11:49 PM

Taufik has a grudge. Maybe it will carry him to the title.

red00ecstrat

09-02-2006, 11:50 PM

I m gonna place my bet on Taufik!:p He must has some new tricks to beat Lin Dan and just didn't want to show that at the HK Open!;)
Let's see!

chibe_K

09-03-2006, 12:19 AM

I don't like to see LD win titles all the time but have to admit in a 7 stars tournament, LD will shine. If this is 4 stars, then no doubt its LCW. Can we request IBF to downgrade WC to 4 stars just to give LCW a chance...

ctjcad

09-03-2006, 12:34 AM

I m gonna place my bet on Taufik!:p He must has some new tricks to beat Lin Dan and just didn't want to show that at the HK Open!;)
Let's see!
..hehe, "new tricks" heh??..hmm, i wonder what could that be??..hope it's not another "disappearing act"..:rolleyes: ;):p

ctjcad

09-03-2006, 12:36 AM

Jessica

09-03-2006, 12:41 AM

Well...i don't agree with if the tournaments dropped to 4* then LCW only can win...He doesn't thant lousy and i believe he can definitely be a threat of other players in WC no matter what...

z3048018

09-03-2006, 04:52 AM

LCW has been consistent in all his tournaments and believe he will break the 4* drought and win the WC this year. who'll he beat? his nemisis LD

s0lar

09-03-2006, 05:10 AM

I guess it'll be Lin Dan or Lee Chong Wei, although I voted Peter Gade, because he is a European player and I'd just like to see him win.

jasonmarc

09-03-2006, 08:10 AM

After trying so many times out side of Msia, i hope WC will be the right place for LCW to finally beat LD and to grab the title.....best of luck! LCW

Dreamzz

09-03-2006, 08:27 AM

LCW definitely has the potential, and LD has been looking slightly vulnerable recently, KJ should have beaten him ....
who knows? :rolleyes:

luyi80

09-03-2006, 10:42 AM

My money on LCW, coz he really deserves the WC title as he's not only an all-rounded player, but potray the best sportmanship... GO GO LCW!!!

jamesd20

09-03-2006, 11:51 AM

I can see only four or five at most likely winners. Gade+Chunlai both have the potential but it is likely to remain unfufilled. Taufik I don't think you can rely on deciding until you see him play. That Leaves Lin or LCW. Lin needs to win a big title having failed at OG2004 and WC2005.

I go for LCW

Han

09-03-2006, 12:09 PM

It's hard to go against Lin Dan but history has shown, more than often, player ranked other than #1 won this pretigious title. I hope this time Lee Chong Wei will come thru. My vote : Lee Chong Wei.

2cents

09-03-2006, 01:19 PM

It's hard to go against Lin Dan but history has shown, more than often, player ranked other than #1 won this pretigious title. I hope this time Lee Chong Wei will come thru. My vote : Lee Chong Wei.

Wow, what a chance. You didn't pick Lin Dan because you thought he would be the top seed. Then you chose someone else to win. What a chance! The guy you picked, Lee CW, actually will be the number 1 seed at WC. So finally you actually picked the number 1 seed to win. :eek: Your conclusion is just opposite to your assumption. ;)

martin8768

09-03-2006, 02:10 PM

Go Peter! he has the potential to beat everyone, i hope he wins! go peter!

Baderz_Jas

09-03-2006, 04:41 PM

For me I will go for Lin Dan :D He has been in good form :)
Hope he can win the WC! :p Jia You :D

Morten

09-03-2006, 07:25 PM

My heart will say Peter Gade, 1 of the best badminton players ive ever watched. Natural talent is rarely seen bigger than in this guy but unluckily he injuried hes knee so badly that he never reached that level he was on before. when he wasyounger hes mental problems was mainly the reason why he didnt win the olympics and world championship, if not believing me watch Gade-fung in 99 and Gade-Ji xinpeng where he "destroys" them 15-1 in a set but gets nervous.

But my brain says otherwise :) . If not injured before Thailand Open I would have picked Gade as main contender to Lin Dan since Gade was 2nd best in Thomas Cup and won Singapore Open. I would pick Lin Dan as a big favourite and i disagree with those saying LCW has a very good change. LCW has been beaten by LD a lot of times lately which motivates LD. Ofc LCW stands a change but I would rather pick Chen Jin as main contender, if they are allowed to "play" and not giving a W/O or only plays in 1 set as seen before

quik_silver

09-03-2006, 08:17 PM

I hope LCW can beat LD! LCW's Def is crazy!

Tatsky

09-03-2006, 08:49 PM

i will support LD !!! LD if u think u can, u can !!

Hey suetyan... so far LD has shown his unwavering technique + his sincere character thats why we continue showing support on him & whoever get the title, its his luck, however LD can make it on top.

I hope these people we are talking about in the forum will show up and make comments from thier heart.:)

kontrabando

09-03-2006, 09:11 PM

Tatsky

09-03-2006, 10:25 PM

Taufik has 2 more weeks to prepare for WC...it's obvious that he's slowly getting back to form after the injury...i hope he wins the WC title this year but I think his preparation is not enough...IMO he needs at least 2 more months of training and competitive tournaments to beat the likes of LD, LCW, PG...but who knows, right? :) we'll see, it's gonna be a tournament to watch...

:) yes its gonna be a tournament to watch and each of us have different rooster to defend for WC2006. Go LIN Dan go...:p get well soon to the injured one & good luck everyone...but congrats to LD win or loss:)

indra

09-03-2006, 11:52 PM

Taufik has 2 more weeks to prepare for WC...it's obvious that he's slowly getting back to form after the injury...i hope he wins the WC title this year but I think his preparation is not enough...IMO he needs at least 2 more months of training and competitive tournaments to beat the likes of LD, LCW, PG...but who knows, right? :) we'll see, it's gonna be a tournament to watch...

Taufik is BACK already!!!!:)

The drama will be held in a neutral ground!!!!

The two drama in the neutral grounds (Greece and USA) are overwhelming evidence:D .

Now in Spain he will repeat it.

terry

09-04-2006, 12:02 AM

I'll go for LCW, he can make it like it happen in MAS Open.

Brave_Turtle

09-04-2006, 02:19 AM

I think LD is still the most consistent ATM while LCW still lagging a bit behind.

It sad because I think LCW has a better repertoire of strokes and does almost anything better than LD but LD just play a game where he rarely do unforced errors. If I can describe LD with one word would be ''consistancy''. His game is simple, not much fancy stuff but he can play well from the beginning till the end. Some say he's a slow starter but I don't think so.

I'd like to see Peter Gade win this WC but I doubt he will reach final. He's a good well rounded player and his footwork is marvelous but alot of younger players seems to do well against him lately.

Kenneth is also another one I'd like to see win a WC but he doesn't seem to be able to cope with other top 5 players speed and consistency. It's sad for him that he got beaten by the 2 last WC champ by a very narrow margin. In fact, by watching video I really tought he woulda beat Xia and Taufik. He's so tall compared to asian player and his defence is just excellent!

By making WC every year it decreases its value. Let's hope Taufik will be motivated enough to play his best. If he reaches final I'd say he has almost 90% chance to win it. I wouldn't be surprise if he wins it but I wouldn't also be surprised if he loses early.

So for me, Taufik to win again!

iceberg

09-04-2006, 02:25 AM

i think Lin Dan has a great chance in this year WC, but i do wish TH will be in his best behaviour and give his very best.. so we get to see excellent games..

pramilainc

09-04-2006, 05:34 AM

I would say Peter Gade (I hope) or Lin Dan.

I really don't see LCW winning as he hasnt really been confident against other contenders who he will run in to around SF/QF point (LD, PG, KJ), same goes for LHI and BCL.

A lot depends on draw, especially for the likes of CJ and KJ, since they consistantly get beaten (with quite a margin) against their compatriots (LD, PG) but can stretch other opponents to the fullest.

I also think TH is a strong contender for the title, given he hasn't played a proper match for a while for us to gauge is performance. But I really hope this doesnt happen. After his HK Open fiasco he doesn't deserve a single title, much less a WC.

In the end I think a lot will depend on the draw, once that is out we should be able to make a better assesment.

My vote goes to Peter Gade :)

Baderz_Jas

09-04-2006, 06:12 AM

I so want (and hope :D ) Lin Dan will win since he lost last year :crying: :crying: :crying:
You can do it! :)

taufik-ist

09-04-2006, 06:18 AM

I so want (and hope :D ) Lin Dan will win since he lost last year :crying: :crying: :crying:
You can do it! :)

i'm afraid lindan will meet TH in early round :D

Baderz_Jas

09-04-2006, 06:20 AM

i'm afraid lindan will meet TH in early round :D

Yes I know!:crying: But this time he will beat him! (I hope) :D ;)

taufik-ist

09-04-2006, 06:32 AM

Yes I know!:crying: But this time he will beat him! (I hope) :D ;)

lin dan often plays worse in early round :D

Baderz_Jas

09-04-2006, 06:44 AM

lin dan often plays worse in early round :D

But he will be ready to play Taufik so he will know what to do! :D :p

xbro88

09-04-2006, 07:17 AM

my head tells me it is lindan... but my heart tell me it is lcw... :D

Jessica

09-04-2006, 09:12 AM

So...you believe your head or heart...I think you should believe your heart coz heart often tell us the right things and choices...

cao ci dan

09-05-2006, 01:14 AM

So...you believe your head or heart...I think you should believe your heart coz heart often tell us the right things and choices...
:D no no...believe your head...it often make a wise decision for us:p mostly correct too..:cool:

tbleong

09-05-2006, 04:11 AM

i tell all of u, wheather u belive it or not, the WC Champion is LEE CHONG WAI.

taufik-ist

09-05-2006, 05:39 AM

taufik will likely win wc for the second time :D

Cheung

09-05-2006, 05:41 AM

taufik will likely win wc for the second time :DIf he doesn't he'll say "Oh, WC is every year now and not so important/prestigious".;)

Dreamzz

09-05-2006, 06:27 AM

If he doesn't he'll say "Oh, WC is every year now and not so important/prestigious".;)

haha, hmmm, that's a real possibility ... hopefully he'll give it his best though, i love watching taufik play when he's really serious. i'm quite surprised that the poll has LCW leading at the moment ...

hara^kazuko

09-05-2006, 06:36 AM

haha, hmmm, that's a real possibility ... hopefully he'll give it his best though, i love watching taufik play when he's really serious. i'm quite surprised that the poll has LCW leading at the moment ...

I'm not surprised! I mean, just count how many Malaysian BCers here and those who support Malaysia! :D

Jessica

09-05-2006, 06:37 AM

Juz hope what the vote can be the truth...LCW can really win the WC..Really hope...

Dreamzz

09-05-2006, 06:39 AM

I'm not surprised! I mean, just count how many Malaysian BCers here and those who support Malaysia! :D

that's true enough i guess ... hehe ... i'm a traitor though, i voted for LD. mainly because this poll is who i think will win, rather than who i want to win ...

Alaric

09-05-2006, 07:24 AM

I think Taufik could win easily if he wants to, but as people say he has trouble with his motivation and gets bored easily, so sadly I think he will flop and crash out, probably in the quarter finals.

That will leave Lin Dan to win, other than Taufik I think he is the strongest player and though LCW is a great player he struggles to win against LD.

I'm still cheering for Taufik though, he is a big game player so maybe he will surprise us all.

ye333

09-05-2006, 01:58 PM

I agree with you that Taufik could win easily if he can be as good as he was in 04 Olympics and 05 WC. And if he really could recover to that height, the only opponent he needs to worry is LCW. I will present my theory now.

- Lin Dan seems to have gone downhill a little bit. His acceleration is not as quick as before and his smashes no longer surprises his major opponents. Even KJ managed to save many in the recent HK semi-final.

- LCW has improved much. I believe his recent losses to Chen Yu (this guy is not in WC anyway) and Roslin are because he is too concentrated to beat LD. He almost did so and this HK final is the first time LD struggled through all 3 sets, there is not a single minute that LD was comfortable. Also LCW's defence against LD is just out of this world. No one has frustrated LD so much before, to the extent that LD chose not to smash when receiving high serves. LCW is really confident when facing LD now. I think LCW could get his first real win over LD in this WC.

- The one people should watch out is KJ. I was surprised by his performance in the semi-final against LD. Just recall how LD toyed him in 06 AE -- I think KJ has done much to make himself peak in the WC and I would say he has done a good job.

CJ and PG are two guys that also have chance. Since it is actually possible that all of the above: Taufik, LD and LCW got beaten before they reach the final. :-)

I think Taufik could win easily if he wants to, but as people say he has trouble with his motivation and gets bored easily, so sadly I think he will flop and crash out, probably in the quarter finals.

That will leave Lin Dan to win, other than Taufik I think he is the strongest player and though LCW is a great player he struggles to win against LD.

I'm still cheering for Taufik though, he is a big game player so maybe he will surprise us all.

Dreamzz

09-05-2006, 02:19 PM

i'm not sure i agree that TH can win easily if he wanted to. i will agree that LD has not improved as much as LCW, but i still think LCW has a bit of a LD-phobia. LD seems to be the only one who can beat him consistently, although yes, the gap is narrowing.

overall though, the guy that has impressed me the most this year in terms of growth and consistency, especially in the last 3-4 tournaments is CJ. rising to no.5 in the world is no mean feat, especially considering that the top 3 are LD, LCW and PG. i think he will be a dark horse for this championship ...

Dreamzz

09-05-2006, 02:20 PM

by the way, why is LD's name in italics in the poll above?

jamesd20

09-05-2006, 02:23 PM

by the way, why is LD's name in italics in the poll above?

It isn't LCW's name is. And it is because he is leading the poll at this time.

Dreamzz

09-05-2006, 02:25 PM

something must be wrong with my screen then, that's what i thought it should be, but i'm still seeing LD's name in italics ... :confused: :confused: :confused:

elwin81

09-05-2006, 02:43 PM

something must be wrong with my screen then, that's what i thought it should be, but i'm still seeing LD's name in italics ... :confused: :confused: :confused:

Dream, I think the player that you vote will be in ITALIC. Am I right?

Dreamzz

09-05-2006, 03:22 PM

Dream, I think the player that you vote will be in ITALIC. Am I right?

i think, my friend, that you are absolutely right! (but first let me check on my other votes .... just to be sure ... :p )

jamesd20

09-05-2006, 04:25 PM

i think, my friend, that you are absolutely right! (but first let me check on my other votes .... just to be sure ... :p )

It is Right, I just checked with my other votes.

chibe_K

09-05-2006, 07:12 PM

zqloy

09-05-2006, 09:19 PM

kennethkoc

09-05-2006, 10:55 PM

Here's my pov.

For me, anyone could win the men singles championship- Lin Dan/ Taufikit/ Chen Jin/ Peter Gade/ Lee Chong Wei/ Chen Hong/ Bao Chunlai / Hafiz Hashim / Sony Dwi Kuncoro / Kenneth Jonnasen / Lee Hyun Ill.. It's on their determination, hardwork, mental preparedness, patience, passion toward this championship..=-)

pjswift

09-06-2006, 04:37 AM

I cannot believe what I see today, more votes go to LCW. How can he possibly win the title? LCW is working hard to become a specialist in beating LD. But at WC2006, there are other top players like PG,TH and KJ and he has not mastered how to beat them yet. It will take another 3 years (one year for each) for LCW to learn how to beat them.....and by that time, they all retired already.

Actually, BAM needs two more foreign coaches, one from Denmark and the other from Indonesia in order to beat those guys.....

I understand you are rather disappointed LCW let slip his near victory over LD in their last outing but it'll be helpful if you can tone down your sarcasm.
Allow me to explain why LCW is geared to clinch the title.
One, skillwise, he's no. 1,superior to LD. Two,his incredible comebacks ,most recently against CJ, prove his mental toughness.So mentally he's rock solid. Three,his superb defence against LD's attacks has virtually reduced LD's big smash weapon to a puny , ornamental toy. It must be unnerving for LD to realise that he has no big weapon against LCW. Four, LCW 's stamina continues to improve. Five, LCW impresses most because he has shown major progress with each match against LD. In fact, on not a few occasions, his play has made LD look rather humble.

hara^kazuko

09-06-2006, 04:52 AM

yeah, LCW's got something and he's more than capable of doing it... what makes u think that LCW has simply no chance to win the WC?

Dreamzz

09-06-2006, 05:13 AM

It is Right, I just checked with my other votes.

yup, elwin got it spot on, i guess in hindsight that's a much better reason for it to be in italics, we can easily tell from the poll who's leading but sometimes we forget who we voted for ... well, some of us more than others ... :p

Jessica

09-06-2006, 09:16 AM

Actually it is hard to predict who will win the WC title...I think that everyone has the chance but the point is how you make your opponents lose and yourself win..Sometime the players lose is not just due to his skills and can also be other factors..So, i can only say who is 100% ready,he will be the winner...Things are often unpredictable right...So...juz wait and see...

Wong8Egg

09-06-2006, 09:50 AM

My vote goes to CJ by looking at his recent encounter with LCW and previous wins over CH and PG. I think he can up against any of the top four (LCW/LD/TH/PG) and win without surprising me.

Personal pick would be LHI.

ye333

09-06-2006, 10:07 AM

Totally agree with you. LCW lost to LD last week because he is not experienced enough. At the beginning of the first game he is a little bit nervous, and he basically give LD his first 6 pts by unforced errors (LD did not really "win" any point until the score is 6:6). At the beginning of the 3rd game he seems mentally tired and lost some concentration. Anyway this is the first time he beated LD so easily in one game (21:8 in the 2nd), he must be a little bit over excited and thus was kind of tired after the 2nd game. I believe LCW's next encounter with LD should be his first dominating victory. And I believe Li Mao is expecting this too. After he truly beats LD, he and Li Mao can spend more time doing research on other players like CJ, CY and PG, that's much easier anyway.

This WC will see the transition from a LD domination to a LCW domination in the badminton world, while Taufik will remain to be the one that is unbeatable only once in a while.

I understand you are rather disappointed LCW let slip his near victory over LD in their last outing but it'll be helpful if you can tone down your sarcasm.
Allow me to explain why LCW is geared to clinch the title.
One, skillwise, he's no. 1,superior to LD. Two,his incredible comebacks ,most recently against CJ, prove his mental toughness.So mentally he's rock solid. Three,his superb defence against LD's attacks has virtually reduced LD's big smash weapon to a puny , ornamental toy. It must be unnerving for LD to realise that he has no big weapon against LCW. Four, LCW 's stamina continues to improve. Five, LCW impresses most because he has shown major progress with each match against LD. In fact, on not a few occasions, his play has made LD look rather humble.

Dreamzz

09-06-2006, 11:13 AM

This WC will see the transition from a LD domination to a LCW domination in the badminton world, while Taufik will remain to be the one that is unbeatable only once in a while.

i would like to believe that's true, but i think a transition, if it happens, will be more gradual than that. i think LD still has another gear that he can go into when he's really pushed, only time will tell ...

ye333

09-06-2006, 12:09 PM

Agree with you. I should say "the beginning of a transition process ...".

LD's problem is that he is unable to save his energy when meeting "inferior" players. Whenever he wants to rest a little, the situation goes out of his control and he has to gear up to full speed. In last year's WC, he was frustrated by Shoji Sato and then could not got past LHI easily. Then of course beating an all-going-out Gade was no easy task. No wonder he was tired when facing Taufik in the final.

The difference between an common open and WC/Olympics is that everyone's going all out, many "lower level" players will perform 120%. LD has to be fully prepared for this.

i would like to believe that's true, but i think a transition, if it happens, will be more gradual than that. i think LD still has another gear that he can go into when he's really pushed, only time will tell ...

jamesd20

09-06-2006, 12:17 PM

LD's problem is that he is unable to save his energy when meeting "inferior" players. Whenever he wants to rest a little, the situation goes out of his control and he has to gear up to full speed. In last year's WC, he was frustrated by Shoji Sato and then could not got past LHI easily. Then of course beating an all-going-out Gade was no easy task. No wonder he was tired when facing Taufik in the final.

That is exactly right, Beacause LD Relies on his Mental strength and consistency under pressure, he is often pushed to rubber games needlessly. And In the two Majors (OG + WC) players are performing to their peak and trying to their full capacity, so his relative lack of skills and techniques is still present but his Mental edge is reduced relatively to other players.

Off topic:

A combination of LCW/Taufik and LD... that would be almost unbeatable.....oh yes his name was Zhao Jian Hua!

Qidong

09-06-2006, 12:47 PM

Off topic:

A combination of LCW/Taufik and LD... that would be almost unbeatable.....oh yes his name was Zhao Jian Hua!

I 100% agreed with you. I'm a diehard Zhao Jian Hua fan too. He was quicker than LCW, better skill than Taufik and more powerful than LD. :)

ye333

09-06-2006, 02:32 PM

I am a big Zhao fan too... But this seems to have gone too far... :cool:
I 100% agreed with you. I'm a diehard Zhao Jian Hua fan too. He was quicker than LCW, better skill than Taufik and more powerful than LD. :)

Morten

09-06-2006, 08:16 PM

hehe makes it sound like hes from outta space.. He was good and one of the best of all time no argue about that ;)

xymaerts

09-06-2006, 10:45 PM

No others man beside LCW/LD. I vote for LCW, as i believe LCW will bring down LD ... It really does not matter that LCW lost in Taiwan, Macau, HK Open to LD.. If he can steal and win in an important match such as WC..then the rest of the matches will be pay off..
Currently LD hold the advantage of 8-2 Win again LCW....

taufik-ist

09-07-2006, 06:17 AM

my tarot card says the forgotten one who will be 'the last man standing'

i think that's taufik hidayat, the forgotten :)

hara^kazuko

09-07-2006, 06:22 AM

my tarot card says the forgotten one who will be 'the last man standing'

i think that's taufik hidayat, the forgotten :)

lol, some of my chinese black magic here says the last man standing will be the one who is capable of speaking more than three languages

And that will be a Lee Chong Wei! :D

Tjun Tjun

09-07-2006, 06:24 AM

my tarot card says the forgotten one who will be 'the last man standing'

i think that's taufik hidayat, the forgotten :)

And don't forget the other forgotten man - Sony Kuncoro who received 1 vote so far .....:D :D :D

jamesd20

09-07-2006, 07:46 AM

And don't forget the other forgotten man - Sony Kuncoro who received 1 vote so far .....:D :D :D

Shon seung Mo has zero votes!!

Neither have I!!!:D

badMania

09-07-2006, 08:52 AM

Just a note, Taufik Hidayat's latest ranking is 31...so...I guess all the top players will want to avoid him. He's likely to meet a top player as early as the first round. Meanwhile, Sony Dwi Kuncoro is ranked even lower at 46. I will be happy if Sony can repeat last year's performance (Round of 16).

ye333

09-07-2006, 09:57 AM

Hoho. That's bad news for both Taufik/Sony and whoever will meet them in the 1st round... No one aiming at the Champion likes a tough 1st round... Last year Taufik's path is perfect. Some easy early rounds, then met Boonsak for fine tuning, then the tough guy KJ to bring the top form out, then a peaked Taufik just sweep through LCW and LD.

Just a note, Taufik Hidayat's latest ranking is 31...so...I guess all the top players will want to avoid him. He's likely to meet a top player as early as the first round. Meanwhile, Sony Dwi Kuncoro is ranked even lower at 46. I will be happy if Sony can repeat last year's performance (Round of 16).

2cents

09-07-2006, 03:35 PM

lol, some of my chinese black magic here says the last man standing will be the one who is capable of speaking more than three languages

And that will be a Lee Chong Wei! :D

The official WC web site:
http://www.06worlds.com/
provides editions in 4 languages, they are: Spanish, English, Chinese and German.

I think Lee Chong Wei must speak English and Chinese. WS number 1 Xu HW must be good at Chinese, German, and maybe English as well. :D

When Lee CW vs someone who cannot speak English, say, Lee HI, are all the spectators who speak English going to cheer for Lee CW or not? That way, Lee CW may have the biggest home advantage all the way, if there is no opponent who can speak Spanish.

jamesd20

09-07-2006, 04:22 PM

Pi Hongyan Can Speak french, Chinese (possibly cantonese+Mandarin) and English.

I would Think LCW could speak English, Malay and Cantonese

elwin81

09-07-2006, 04:25 PM

Pi Hongyan Can Speak french, Chinese (possibly cantonese+Mandarin) and English.

I would Think LCW could speak English, Malay and Cantonese

LCW can speak mandarin.

jamesd20

09-07-2006, 04:58 PM

LCW can speak mandarin.

And cantonese? If so that makes four Languages.

elwin81

09-07-2006, 05:03 PM

And cantonese? If so that makes four Languages.

I am not sure if he can speak cantonese as he is from Northern part of Malaysia.

2cents

09-07-2006, 05:07 PM

LCW can speak mandarin.

Both Mandarin and Cantonese are Chinese, right? There is no difference in writing, right?

By the way, I hate the word ending with -ese. It's kind of insulting. At first, I thought it's because of the spell or pronunciation, then I finally realize it is purely because of the nationality. -ese has only been used for people in Asia and African. For example, when Zaire became Congo, then they(who are they? I don't know) created the word Congolese! why not Congolian? not Congolish? just because they are not qualified to.

If you know English a little bit more. -ese has been used strongly for disapproving, such as officialese.

I have to stop, it's kind of off topic now. ;)

jamesd20

09-07-2006, 05:47 PM

Both Mandarin and Cantonese are Chinese, right? There is no difference in writing, right?

By the way, I hate the word ending with -ese. It's kind of insulting. At first, I thought it's because of the spell or pronunciation, then I finally realize it is purely because of the nationality. -ese has only been used for people in Asia and African. For example, when Zaire became Congo, then they(who are they? I don't know) created the word Congolese! why not Congolian? not Congolish? just because they are not qualified to.

If you know English a little bit more. -ese has been used strongly for disapproving, such as officialese.

I have to stop, it's kind of off topic now. ;)

Same for reading, but we are talking about speaking right?

any ways anyone know if LCW can speak Cantonese (or cantonglish or cantonlian).:D

I not b the rite person answer question bout english soz m8.:p

There may be a rule about how the nouns/adjectives are collectivised, but I think it is just what sounds best. I can almost certainly say it is deliberately causing offence. In any case I certainly don't mena to be.

kwun

09-07-2006, 06:48 PM

gentlemen, stay on topic, please...

jiayou

09-07-2006, 07:20 PM

for me Lin Dan still difficult to beat untill now. Maybe meet LCW again....

oh..... NOOOO.... we want see something diffirent, how about Chen Jin vs Taufik ? They both never met each other, rite ?

cindie

09-07-2006, 08:21 PM

Voted LD.. :D Just hoping that TH and LD could meet in final. :p But, I guess it will probably be the clash between LD & LCW again. Maybe LCW will be able to overcome LD this time..

Ethan

09-08-2006, 12:32 AM

For me, I think that LCW and LD has the highest chance of winning. But we still have to see where the draw throws TH to. Then TH, CJ and PG will stand the same chance winning the thing because there are not as strong as the two in terms of reaching finals. TH is still a mystery though. I guess it all depends on TH's draw to see who will have the brightest chances to win. If TH is on LCW's side, then LD just have to beat two of the the other four elite players to win the title and vice versa to LCW if TH is in LD's side. TH will definitely have to beat three of the other four to win the title so it is tougher for him to win. As for CJ and PG, they have to concentrate on beating LCW and LD respectively, their head2head record is inferior against the top 2. CJ might have a bigger chance upsetting LCW but LCW still have a slight edge on him. And LCW can easily dispose CH, LHI and esp BCL in straight games unlike LD who will most likely be engaged to rubber set games if they met each other. Then the others like CH, Hafiz, BCL, LHI are very dark horses and the rest if they manage to win, will have to be at the form of their lives and have the luck of their lives

tbleong

09-08-2006, 12:49 AM

I think there are so many Malaysian in this forum thats why LCW leading in the MS.. mysely also vote LCW.

pjswift

09-08-2006, 02:36 AM

I think there are so many Malaysian in this forum thats why LCW leading in the MS.. mysely also vote LCW.

I'm not Malaysian. I voted for LCW cos his form looks fantastic enough to trouble LD . Note his progress against LD with each successive encounter. How long more can LD hold off LCW's challenge? Of course,outcome depends on form on that day. Voting assumes good form, barring unforseen circumstances, so pls feel free to vote.

hara^kazuko

09-08-2006, 03:45 AM

Is the WC men's singles draw out yet? I hope Lee Chong Wei will get a good one

By the way, :D

Lee Chong Wei can speak English, Chinese, Malay, Cantonese and Hokkien...

Chinese, Cantonese and Hokkien are totally different languages although they come from the same root

tutu_h

09-08-2006, 04:55 AM

the draw is out, TH is drawn in the lower half with LD. they will meet only in SF after his Meeting with CH (in 1/16) and Peter Gade (in 1/8). hope he can enter Final with LCW.

tutu_h

09-08-2006, 04:58 AM

LD has a relatively easy draw. he will be meeting PARK Sung Hwan(1/16) and then Hafiz (1/8). either Peter Gade or TH will be waiting for him in SF.

hsengsping

09-08-2006, 05:15 AM

I don't think TH has it in him currently to beat CH, PG, LD then LCW if seeding turns out right.

tutu_h

09-08-2006, 05:19 AM

I don't think TH has it in him currently to beat CH, PG, LD then LCW if seeding turns out right.

Taufik has a very very very good record against CH (8:0 if i am not mistaken, someone correct me if i am wrong).

indra

09-08-2006, 05:46 AM

Taufik has a very very very good record against CH (8:0 if i am not mistaken, someone correct me if i am wrong).

TH vs Ng Wei: 80:20
TH vs CH: 75:25 [ Taufik Phobia- 6-1]
TH vs Bonsak/Peter: [Peter prefered by TH] 60:40
TH vs LD [ This is the real showdown]: 55:45
TH vs LCW : 60:40

TAUFIK CHAMPION:D

tutu_h

09-08-2006, 06:20 AM

TH vs Ng Wei: 80:20
TH vs CH: 75:25 [ Taufik Phobia- 6-1]
TH vs Bonsak/Peter: [Peter prefered by TH] 60:40
TH vs LD [ This is the real showdown]: 55:45
TH vs LCW : 60:40

TAUFIK CHAMPION:D

based on the Head-to-Head records
TH and PG r even (4:4) so it should be 50:50
TH vs LD (3:2) so it should be 60:40
TH vs LCW (2:1) - 67:33
TH vs Boonsak (4:0) - 100:0

so, the biggest hurdle should be Peter Gade.

Dreamzz

09-08-2006, 06:23 AM

based on the Head-to-Head records
TH and PG r even (4:4) so it should be 50:50

haha, we all know indra by now. TH's odds are always slightly better with him ... :D

tutu_h

09-08-2006, 06:26 AM

haha, we all know indra by now. TH's odds are always slightly better with him ... :D

too bad WCH is not playing, coz he has the best record against TH

zqloy

09-08-2006, 06:54 AM

based on the Head-to-Head records
TH and PG r even (4:4) so it should be 50:50
TH vs LD (3:2) so it should be 60:40
TH vs LCW (2:1) - 67:33
TH vs Boonsak (4:0) - 100:0

so, the biggest hurdle should be Peter Gade.

Dude, Taufik and LCW has even record against each other, 2:2.
The last time LCW beat him is during the TC qualifying round.

2cents

09-08-2006, 07:47 AM

Taufik has a very very very good record against CH (8:0 if i am not mistaken, someone correct me if i am wrong).

Not correct. CH has won sometimes before :D

2cents

09-08-2006, 07:52 AM

TH vs Ng Wei: 80:20
TH vs CH: 75:25 [ Taufik Phobia- 6-1]
TH vs Bonsak/Peter: [Peter prefered by TH] 60:40
TH vs LD [ This is the real showdown]: 55:45
TH vs LCW : 60:40

TAUFIK CHAMPION:D

Assume all your assumptions are correct, then Taufik's chance for champion is:

80% x 75% x 60% x 55% x 60% = 11%

only 11%, still a small chance event :D

2cents

09-08-2006, 07:54 AM

based on the Head-to-Head records
TH and PG r even (4:4) so it should be 50:50
TH vs LD (3:2) so it should be 60:40
TH vs LCW (2:1) - 67:33
TH vs Boonsak (4:0) - 100:0

so, the biggest hurdle should be Peter Gade.

TH vs LD should be 5:6 so it should be 45:55 against TH :D

felix929

09-08-2006, 08:39 AM

i wanna see an upset in this tournament... like CJ or BCL winnin, someone other than PG, TH, LD and LCW
Either that or i wanna see a massive thrashin from one of the players like last year WC final were TH total pwned LD...

Han

09-08-2006, 09:29 AM

Is like buying stock, the past results can not be the indictor of the future. Taufik had very good winning records during 2004/5 but he only won one title in 2006 and had lost so many matches since. Even though Taufik is the the player that most opponents would like to avoid but if it's unavoidable, then this is the best time to play against him. So it goes both way, I am sure Taufik also wondering how is he going to fight thru this mess to setup the the duel with Lin Dan ... The suspense begins ...

twdc08

09-08-2006, 10:25 AM

go Chong Wei...u can do it...win the 1st world champion for Malaysia!!!

nwy5633

09-08-2006, 10:31 AM

i am going for LCW...
he got the best defense...
his skill is improving day by day...
his attack probably can say as good compare to LD who are seem the best...
his luck is superb now as u all see the draw with no LD,PG or TH in his way to final...
he juz need to get the feel and play wat he had learn and heal his 2 main problem...
mistakes and mental...
if he can did tat , i can bet tat LD will lost to him...

Jessica

09-08-2006, 10:38 AM

Hope what you say are really true...This is my wish too..All depends on him..Jia You...

2cents

09-08-2006, 04:10 PM

wow, LCW got 73 votes, more votes than

LCW(73) > Gade(30) + Taufik(25) + CJ(12) + CH(1) + LHI(2) + Sony(1) + Hafiz(1) + SSM(0) + Other ...

or

LCW = Lin Dan + CH + BCL + Lee HI + Hafiz + Sony + SSM + Other

tbleong

09-08-2006, 08:50 PM

anybody to tell me where can i see the draw??

CLELY

09-08-2006, 11:27 PM

It's should be CHN to crown WChamp/06 in MS division.With 4 name in top 8 MS's seeding, it's unbelievable and rather embarrassing if the Great Wall must fail again this year. I guess LD will take the title (best of his compatriots currently). And LCW? Tons of burdens for him to celebrate triumphant in Madrid such as LCW doesn't have strong back-up from his team-mates to defeat his main opponents (Hafiz on rank 9th and Kuan at rank 29th) ; jinx-factor as top-seed who rare out as WChamp and realize MAS's dream being 1st people that success in this competition.TH? Wonder his magic will comeback.. (but who knows?)

tbleong

09-09-2006, 12:44 AM

the draw is out, TH is drawn in the lower half with LD. they will meet only in SF after his Meeting with CH (in 1/16) and Peter Gade (in 1/8). hope he can enter Final with LCW.

can u pls tell me where can i see the draw????

**KZ**

09-09-2006, 01:22 AM

u can c the draw at ibf's website.....

tbleong

09-09-2006, 01:37 AM

pls provide me the address, i log in to the internationalbadminton.org..
but they need password to see the draw.

tutu_h

09-09-2006, 02:16 AM

can u pls tell me where can i see the draw????

http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35989

tbleong

09-09-2006, 02:59 AM

thanksssss tutu h!

tbleong

09-09-2006, 03:11 AM

poor LCW. his draw was poor. have to face BCL and CJ.
But LD was better then him.

tbleong

09-09-2006, 03:57 AM

actually i worry abt LCW and CJ game! 'cos they last game was so hard to fight!!

**KZ**

09-09-2006, 09:10 AM

hay tbleong...you have to think tat LCW's record against BCL and CJ is 8:0 and 2:0 respectively....so it's considered a good draw for him at least until the semis against CJ....well.....i'm positive that he can make the finals

ye333

09-09-2006, 07:12 PM

After watching LCW-CJ's HK open game, I actually believe LCW will beat CJ relatively easily in WC. It seems in HK LCW underestimated CJ and didn't prepare enough. This also can be seen from his body language -- he was relieved after finally won. He came to HK to play LD, and didn't really expect CJ to give him a hard time.

hay tbleong...you have to think tat LCW's record against BCL and CJ is 8:0 and 2:0 respectively....so it's considered a good draw for him at least until the semis against CJ....well.....i'm positive that he can make the finals

chemile

09-10-2006, 01:33 AM

I do not think that LCW will win this tournament. Probably because Malaysia people really hope that he take this tournament as a winner, and it make him stress and depress. I think Lin Dan will take this tournament, and will make him really proud and prove that he also can take the title not only *6, but also *7 such WC and Olympics..

taufik-ist

09-10-2006, 05:00 AM

After watching LCW-CJ's HK open game, I actually believe LCW will beat CJ relatively easily in WC. It seems in HK LCW underestimated CJ and didn't prepare enough. This also can be seen from his body language -- he was relieved after finally won. He came to HK to play LD, and didn't really expect CJ to give him a hard time.

remember, only chenjin who can beat lin dan in china :rolleyes:

if u think LCW is only interesting to play LD, he should be in very low ranking, then he will meet lindan in early round :D

hara^kazuko

09-10-2006, 05:04 AM

remember, only chenjin who can beat lin dan in china :rolleyes:

if u think LCW is only interesting to play LD, he should be in very low ranking, then he will meet lindan in early round :D

No, that will not make LCW stay any longer in the WC, because LCW will not give up unless he meet eye to eye with LD

cao ci dan

09-10-2006, 06:07 AM

No, that will not make LCW stay any longer in the WC, because LCW will not give up unless he meet eye to eye with LD
:rolleyes: ....it's all about love!:D

badcliq

09-10-2006, 06:24 AM

Hopefully there won't be any upsets for LCW....gotta be mentally prepared...duno y m'sian players keep settling for 2nd best only....they don't do well when they are expected to....when ppl expect them to lose, they did damn well....hmm

Wildstone

09-10-2006, 06:27 AM

LCW has all the ability to take the title, but he has a weakness : He is a malaysian. :P and you know what malaysian players behave during the critical points.

hara^kazuko

09-10-2006, 07:18 AM

LCW has all the ability to take the title, but he has a weakness : He is a malaysian. :P and you know what malaysian players behave during the critical points.

Yeah, "Not living up to expectations", and it's probably the most headlines that ever popped out in our local sport magazine

Smash-Tajam

09-10-2006, 08:31 AM

I 100% agreed with you. I'm a diehard Zhao Jian Hua fan too. He was quicker than LCW, better skill than Taufik and more powerful than LD. :)

I a fan of Zhao Jian Hua too, :D but to be frank I think his net shot is crap(not even close to Taufik), dont think he has the stamina and speed of LCW and dont think his smash is as powerful as LD, I just like him for the way he play badminton.

I think the back hand skill of Taufik is truely unbelievable. :D

ye333

09-10-2006, 02:26 PM

Are you really a Zhao fan? Must be fake. :D

Taufik seems to be a natural backhand player.
I a fan of Zhao Jian Hua too, :D but to be frank I think his net shot is crap(not even close to Taufik), dont think he has the stamina and speed of LCW and dont think his smash is as powerful as LD, I just like him for the way he play badminton.

I think the back hand skill of Taufik is truely unbelievable. :D

ye333

09-10-2006, 04:43 PM

I don't remember CJ having ever beaten LD or BCL ... Actually the only one who has beaten LD comfortably in recent years, besides Taufik, is Chen Hong. 05 AE final shows how powerful AND accurate CH's shots can be and LD just could not answer them.

What I said is just my guess from seeing LCW's body languages after winning the 2nd game and winning the match. He seemed relieved instead of purely excited. My interpretation is that he really didn't think he may lose before the game.

remember, only chenjin who can beat lin dan in china :rolleyes:

if u think LCW is only interesting to play LD, he should be in very low ranking, then he will meet lindan in early round :D

TKG2609

09-10-2006, 08:21 PM

lee chong wei vs chen jin, peter gade vs lin dan in semi final

TKG2609

09-10-2006, 08:23 PM

lindan will beat lee chong wei in final ....

Dandirom

09-11-2006, 02:51 AM

Dude, i dont quite agree on that. PG's speed is actually the slowest among the 4 of them, the problem is he might be fast at the beginning of the match but he cannot mantain the speed throughout the match. And i dont agree LCW has no obvious strength compare to the 2 others. He is the speediest among them and has the best defence (probabaly only LD can match him on that). His excellent defense will defintely give loads of trouble to his opponent. I agree about Gade's speed. I'm a fan of his but I don't think his speed is exceptional -- he just moves smoothly and his technique is really good, great footwork.

asuncion_03

09-12-2006, 03:35 AM

lin dan 4 me....

kwun

09-12-2006, 04:04 AM

Kenneth removed from the poll as unfortunately, he is injured.

TKG2609

09-12-2006, 10:08 AM

i think lidan will win this time .... but honestly i more prefer chen jin will win this time

Dreamzz

09-12-2006, 10:59 AM

I agree about Gade's speed. I'm a fan of his but I don't think his speed is exceptional -- he just moves smoothly and his technique is really good, great footwork.

i like watching PG play, he's one of the few europeans that moves properly on court. KJ looks a bit stiff and cumbersome, though he does get the job done. however, PG has a rough ride this year, having to go through BP, TH, LD and LCW to win.
ouch!

cooler

09-12-2006, 07:11 PM

lindan will beat lee chong wei in final ....
it seem often said LD has less skills than many other players but yet often the man to beat:p Maybe he is too skillful and make it look easy

X Ball

09-12-2006, 09:05 PM

The WC commands lots of respect from the players. The hype leading to this WC is going to be great and players know it.

As such, the players will be mounting their personal best to try to win this title. A lot is at stake. Players will be rewarded handsomely by the prizemoney as well as money incentives from their own badminton associations if they win. There is no hidng of the fact that players would want to be winning the money as well as the accolades that go with it.

Players like LCW will make sure that he plays one notch higher (and of course will LD, PG, CJ, CY and TH). My bet is LCW can perform at an extra level --- he is tuning himself to go for this because of the huge incentives awaiting him should he win. For me, it would be a terrific feeling if he wins.

Good luck LCW.

kennethkoc

09-13-2006, 12:35 AM

it's already few days to go, and ms world champioship is coming to town..i hope any of these guys would crown: Bao ChunLai, Chen Jin, Peter Gade, Lin Dan, Boonsak Polsana, Lee Chong Wei, Chen Hong..wish u all the best !!

More Power to all of u guys and to all the players!! I know all of u are training so hard for this upcoming championship! i know the effort, hardwork, and uncountable numbers of training all of u must have put..

=-)

X Ball

09-13-2006, 01:55 AM

lindan will beat lee chong wei in final ....

Of course he will but not in this WC Final !:mad:

Jessica

09-13-2006, 02:28 AM

Agree with what X Ball say....LCW really deserve the tiltle...I am not saying other players not worth it but i can see that LCW really has put in a lot of effort...So, i hope he will do his best...If he win,i am sure will be the most happy person...

tbleong

09-13-2006, 02:36 AM

not only china player are strong! any thing will happen. like CJ vs LHI, LHI have changce also. and LD vs PG, same thing.PG have changce also!!
so the final not only are LCW ang LD. CJ,PG,TH have changce also..

TKG2609

09-13-2006, 03:12 AM

hehehe ... but i believe lindan will go to final to beat everyone .... not only lee chong wei .... lee chong wei must beat bao cl n chen jin first .... then he can meet lindan in final ....

TKG2609

09-13-2006, 03:20 AM

but i hope no all chinese final .... so boring ....

TKG2609

09-13-2006, 03:22 AM

maybe lindan vs lee chong wei, peter vs lcw, peter vs chen jin, taufik h vs chen jin, taufik vs lcw .... will be better ....

X Ball

09-13-2006, 03:24 AM

U can look at the positive side of things : LCW by beating Bao will get better, and then he beats CJ and gets even better. By the time he gets to LD, he will be so sharp that LD will not stand a chance.

BAO is really really unlucky to come up early against LCW; CJ will only sharpen LCW's play (LCW knows how to beat the guy now after his last win over CJ - no big deal here). That is how I read it.

TKG2609

09-13-2006, 03:24 AM

i think from all the ms players ... lindan deserve the title ... he is very consistant ....win a lot of tournaments in 2006 (min : semi/finalist) .... only lost to peter/lcw once in 2006 .... go go lindan....

TKG2609

09-13-2006, 03:25 AM

but after beat chen jin n bao ...maybe he already tired , hehehehe

TKG2609

09-13-2006, 03:28 AM

u can see from his draw .... must beat shon sm, bao, chen jin n then lindan/peter gade ..... not easy ....

tyran

09-13-2006, 03:51 AM

but i hope no all chinese final .... so boring ....
then Li Hyun Il Vs TH in final will be interesting......!

cooler

09-13-2006, 04:09 AM

i'm expecting big thing from Peter G. He skipped korean and HK opens to prepare for this WC. I doubt PG would be a threat in 2008 Olympic so this is his one big gig that he want to do well.

tbleong

09-13-2006, 04:44 AM

haha,,an idea for u all.. the final should be LHI vs PG...no mor LCW and LD..( there are so boring),,,,,

Cheung

09-13-2006, 06:00 AM

BAO is really really unlucky to come up early against LCW; CJ will only sharpen LCW's play (LCW knows how to beat the guy now after his last win over CJ - no big deal here). That is how I read it.
Maybe CJ knows how to play LCW! CJ hit LCW's forehand pretty hard a few times in HK with some success.

Dreamzz

09-13-2006, 06:29 AM

haha,,an idea for u all.. the final should be LHI vs PG...no mor LCW and LD..( there are so boring),,,,,

if LCW and LD are not there, i would bank on the final being CJ vs PG.

TKG2609

09-13-2006, 08:30 AM

i think this time peter gade will not perform well...just get injured ....also taufik, he doesnot have any motivation to win the title .... maybe he go to madrid to watch real madrid ...hehehehe.....

zqloy

09-13-2006, 08:31 AM

Maybe CJ knows how to play LCW! CJ hit LCW's forehand pretty hard a few times in HK with some success.
True. LCW is abit uncomfortable while playing CJ at the beginning of the match but he has definitely figured out sth later. He floored CJ a few times using his delicate dropshots, i think he has noticed that although CJ moves fast but his footwork is not as efficient....:rolleyes:

TKG2609

09-13-2006, 08:34 AM

i dont think lcw can go to final ....maybe lost to bao or chen jin ....

ye333

09-13-2006, 10:09 AM

zqloy

09-13-2006, 10:40 AM

Exactly! CJ moves very fast, but in fact he CANNOT cover the whole court. And CJ's style is to running around (literally!) defensing first. So if LCW can keep attacking with certain quality, CJ will have no chance to counter-attack and will fail to reach the shuttle finally.

Haha u noticed that as well! CJ is very young, got lots of energy and moves really fast, but sometimes he seems abit clumsy to me....:o He should work more on his footwork, if not he will tend to makes lots of errors during high level of play. And i noticed sth else, his backhand and overhead seems much better than his forehand, which is direct opposite to LDs. LCW cannot use the same tactic which he uses against LD to CJ, it didnt work very well.

Dreamzz

09-13-2006, 10:46 AM

if only i can be as 'clumsy' as he is ... :rolleyes:
i don't think you guys are giving him enough credit, he's a threat to everyone.

Morten

09-13-2006, 10:48 AM

Gade wont make it that far this time im afraid, he has been injured twice now since june and he didnt skip those tournaments due to training or resting but due to a knee injury. An injury in the "bad" knee where he got seriously injured in 2001. On gades speed ill agree he aint playing that fast anymore but actually Gade is very fast, maybe almost as fast as LCW and LD hes style just makes him look more smooth and more relaxed, whats the way he sometimes explodes and youll understand. But agree he aint that fast as he was before he got injured and luckily for his rivals ;) . I predict Lin Dan going all the way this year and somehow he deserves it even if hes not that great of a sportsman, as dark horse i predict Chen Jin going to the finals. What happens then between CJ and LD is unpredictable since we know how China can arrange matches

Wong8Egg

09-13-2006, 11:07 AM

True. LCW is abit uncomfortable while playing CJ at the beginning of the match but he has definitely figured out sth later. He floored CJ a few times using his delicate dropshots, i think he has noticed that although CJ moves fast but his footwork is not as efficient....:rolleyes:

CJ could have beaten LCW in HKO if he got his final net shot right. It is not like LCW had figured out sth and made him a DEFINITE winner over CJ.

It is anybody's game. I won't be surprised if CJ beat LCW in WC.

quik_silver

09-13-2006, 11:10 AM

CJ could have beaten LCW in HKO if he got his final net shot right. It is not like LCW had figured out sth and made him a DEFINITE winner over CJ.

It is anybody's game. I won't be surprised if CJ beat LCW in WC.

LCW is on a good streak right now, even though he didn't win in HKO.. LCW is just the right contender for this year's WC in Madrid.

nwy5633

09-13-2006, 11:29 AM

haha...
now i just hope that LCW will create some record...
maybe is the first malaysian who win the WC...
the first malaysian that beat 3 out of 4 CHN player to win WC...
i am looking forward to see LCW crashes CHN dream...
hopefully tat bad li yong bo won't talk something like last final...
he juz shouted at LD to kill LCW...broke his leg...let him die...show no sign of sportmanship!!

Dreamzz

09-13-2006, 12:56 PM

is that what he said?
wow, that's vicious ...

elwin81

09-13-2006, 01:18 PM

hopefully tat bad li yong bo won't talk something like last final...
he juz shouted at LD to kill LCW...broke his leg...let him die...show no sign of sportmanship!!

Is it true that Li Yongbo said that?
Gosh..............

ye333

09-13-2006, 01:44 PM

LYB said that in HK open final? Do you remember the exact words?

LYB would take advantage of anything possible though... I heard him shouting "out!" before the shuttle fell in some videos.

haha...
now i just hope that LCW will create some record...
maybe is the first malaysian who win the WC...
the first malaysian that beat 3 out of 4 CHN player to win WC...
i am looking forward to see LCW crashes CHN dream...
hopefully tat bad li yong bo won't talk something like last final...
he juz shouted at LD to kill LCW...broke his leg...let him die...show no sign of sportmanship!!

X Ball

09-13-2006, 09:54 PM

LCW is on a good streak right now, even though he didn't win in HKO.. LCW is just the right contender for this year's WC in Madrid.
I cannot agree with you more that LCW is the right contender for the WC. Coming off with two close games against LD in the buildup to the WC and beating CJ in the last torunament suggests LCW is about to hit big time.

He had matched LD in the last two games --- LD on both occasions took LCW to 3 games and winning on account of his better strength. On the two occasions, LCW was not able to rise against LD when it counted BECAUSE LD knows how to play the big points.

However, I think LCW would have learned his mistakes in letting LD take control in the 3rd game. LD varied his game (he lulled LCW in the 2nd and then suddenly exploded in the 3rd and caught LCW clearly on the wrong foot a lot of times). LCW will change his style, if there is a 3rd game, he will be the one on the attack now (he will not LD command and control the 3rd game as he did without realising it before).

CJ does not match LCW, if LCW plays to expectation. LCW now knows how to beat CJ. Forget about BAO, he is not in the same league as LD or LCW. I watched BAO played enough to know he will not get past LCW in the WC. Even though he will fight well against LCW, he will only sharpen LCW's game for LCW's fight with CJ.

As I said before CJ will lose to LCW because he lacks LD's great stamina and big play skills. 'Big play' skills come from playing the points cleverly (e.g. LD in the 3rd set against LCW). To do that, it takes a lot out of the player. CJ does not match LD in that department. LCW, however, has learned enough of LD's game - by losing so many 3rd sets to LD, he is beginning to work out a strategy to catch LD. The last two matches against LD indicates a narrowing of skills beween the two. I think '3rd time lucky' will be true for LCW in the WC. BAO and CJ are going to sharpen LCW well for the meeting with LD in the final of the WC --- that is how I see it and the outcome would be a spectacular win by LCW. Q.E.D.

TKG2609

09-13-2006, 10:11 PM

if lcw can learn from lindan game, why lindan, bao n chen jin cannot learn from lcw game, hihihi ....

Ningtyas

09-14-2006, 01:52 AM

taufik will likely win wc for the second time :D

I also vote for him, but now I've changed my mind. Anyone but taufik. There are hints that makes me believe, he won't retain his title. I hope I was wrong, though.

You write : "We know you can do it."
Ya, but we do not know whether he really wants to do it. Be prepared for another disappointing result.

pjswift

09-14-2006, 02:40 AM

After watching LCW-CJ's HK open game, I actually believe LCW will beat CJ relatively easily in WC. It seems in HK LCW underestimated CJ and didn't prepare enough. This also can be seen from his body language -- he was relieved after finally won. He came to HK to play LD, and didn't really expect CJ to give him a hard time.

Spot on! Good thing he had one match experience with CJ before WC to update him on CJ's progress. This will teach him not to underestimate CJ. LCW will have a better idea now how to play him.

pjswift

09-14-2006, 02:56 AM

CJ could have beaten LCW in HKO if he got his final net shot right. It is not like LCW had figured out sth and made him a DEFINITE winner over CJ.

It is anybody's game. I won't be surprised if CJ beat LCW in WC.

I don't think CJ will get past LHI, not because of his ability ;rather he may suffer from first- time - on- the- big-stage nerves. Every player goes through it for the first time. If he doesn't, I'll be impressed. CJ comes across as very intelligent but he still has some way to go: better movement, better netplay-these are world no. 1 trademarks. You are not there until you are first class in these two aspects.

zqloy

09-14-2006, 03:05 AM

CJ could have beaten LCW in HKO if he got his final net shot right. It is not like LCW had figured out sth and made him a DEFINITE winner over CJ.

It is anybody's game. I won't be surprised if CJ beat LCW in WC.

CJ lose because he always fell at the final few crucial points. Either he is mentally weak or lack of experience. The score of his recent lost to LCW, ChenYu and LCW shows that. His year is not this one but will be most probably next year!

taufik-ist

09-14-2006, 06:12 AM

I also vote for him, but now I've changed my mind. Anyone but taufik. There are hints that makes me believe, he won't retain his title. I hope I was wrong, though.

You write : "We know you can do it."
Ya, but we do not know whether he really wants to do it. Be prepared for another disappointing result.

remember in last TC 2006, taufik has callenged any player (specially Lin dan) to beat him in WC 2006, taufik will pay 'seriously' and will be 'hungry' for a winning

Ningtyas

09-14-2006, 06:32 AM

remember in last TC 2006, taufik has callenged any player (specially Lin dan) to beat him in WC 2006, taufik will pay 'seriously' and will be 'hungry' for a winning

Yes I remember, that's why I voted for him. But having read the article in Jawa Pos, I change my mind. Taufik is not so serious this time.
These words are often said by badminton commentator to describe Taufik, "kalau mau menang ya menang, kalau mau kalah ya kalah. Tinggal gimana Taufik."

This time it's not Taufik who wants to win to play there. His laziness to practice etc, is a clear sign. Forget Taufik, better support nova/butet and markis/hendra. heheh

taufik-ist

09-14-2006, 06:43 AM

Yes I remember, that's why I voted for him. But having read the article in Jawa Pos, I change my mind. Taufik is not so serious this time.
These words are often said by badminton commentator to describe Taufik, "kalau mau menang ya menang, kalau mau kalah ya kalah. Tinggal gimana Taufik."

This time it's not Taufik who wants to win to play there. His laziness to practice etc, is a clear sign. Forget Taufik, better support nova/butet and markis/hendra. heheh

he.. he don't trust 100% the news from jawa pos, read 'bola' or 'kompas'

it seems that taufik is still disputing with PBSI,he may feel 'uncomfortable' in Pelatnas, so TH become 'lazy' to train in cipayung. i believe he has been training hard by himself or with Mulyo somewhere , specially for The WC.

X Ball

09-14-2006, 06:53 AM

if lcw can learn from lindan game, why lindan, bao n chen jin cannot learn from lcw game, hihihi ....

Good point but because you have selected reading habits, you didn't pick up what I said about Bao and CJ. Here it is again in simpler terms : BAO is not class enough. CJ is really not that unbeatable now that LCW has figured him out. Kapish ?

indra

09-14-2006, 08:39 PM

he.. he don't trust 100% the news from jawa pos, read 'bola' or 'kompas'

it seems that taufik is still disputing with PBSI,he may feel 'uncomfortable' in Pelatnas, so TH become 'lazy' to train in cipayung. i believe he has been training hard by himself or with Mulyo somewhere , specially for The WC.

AGree...with you Taufik-ist,

Promises are promises. Taufik will keep his promises:) ....

Taufik is very determined, Mulyo is very sure that TH can defeat LD.
This is the highest grandprix series. Highly prestigious....
His family will be there to support him....

cindie

09-14-2006, 11:02 PM

AGree...with you Taufik-ist,

Promises are promises. Taufik will keep his promises:) ....

Taufik is very determined, Mulyo is very sure that TH can defeat LD.
This is the highest grandprix series. Highly prestigious....
His family will be there to support him....

I hope TH can play his best in WC. I really want to see his skills.. I know he is a good player.

TKG2609

09-15-2006, 01:47 AM

but in hongkong open, he said that he is not interested in wc madrid .... he said that wc jus like other regular tournament ... he is more interested in sea games .... so this time i think he will not win wc .....

TKG2609

09-15-2006, 01:47 AM

i prefer lindan/chenjin win this wc ....

Ningtyas

09-15-2006, 01:54 AM

milolo

09-15-2006, 02:19 AM

I would put LD as my 1st pick as he is at the moment a notch above the rest (only TH can beat him in his top form) and consistent in his form. u seldom see him losing to a non-top-rank player in tournament.
Next will be LCW and Peter.

Ai Mei

09-15-2006, 03:50 AM

I will go for Bao ChunLai........i hope he will get this title........Jia you bao......
i don't think taufik will win this world championship....i read Indonesian newspaper (jawa pos) that he didn't want to take any practices with his teammate......
jia you bao.....jia you bao.....jia you bao.....

BlaZe

09-15-2006, 06:13 AM

I really hope PG clinches the title this year. He has already shown he can beat any of the top players and I think he will be highly motivated as he still lacks a major title before he retires. Along with CJ, they are the only two who can overcome LD & CWL.

As far as LD and CWL are concerned, I'd say LD is better than CWL. I think LD has a better vision of the game. This allows him to anticipate the shots and that's how he can surprise his opponent very often. Talking about skills in each area of the game, CWL may be higher rated than LD, but when you add everything up and look at the final score, LD is still ahead. Now CWL has improved a lot recently, but he may have developped a style that works against LD, but not other top players..

In my opinion LD, PG and TH are the ones who have the best science of the game. For PG it's hard to compete with LD and CWL's power and for TH, he may simply just not be ready. Though he often proves wrong people who underestimate him..

Anyway, go Peter!!

TKG2609

09-15-2006, 06:27 AM

Interesting.
Did he say sea games or Asian Games? Can you give me a link, please?

sorry, i forget the link :( but he said that because of now the wc tournament just like other reguler tournament .... nothing special ...now every year we have wc ...:cool:

taufik-ist

09-15-2006, 07:08 AM

taufik never denies his promise :), he will give his best for The WC, he has challenged Lin dan to beat him, but that will only happen in the semi final :(

Jessica

09-15-2006, 07:21 AM

No matter who will beat who...This WC is definitely the most interesting and thrilling competition...Be careful with your heart...Ha..ha...

taufik-ist

09-15-2006, 07:28 AM

No matter who will beat who...This WC is definitely the most interesting and thrilling competition...Be careful with your heart...Ha..ha...

yeah.. you'd better go to toilet first before the game begin, don't go to toilet in the middle of the game, if you don't want to miss it, specially while the MD is playing, it's 'a fast lane' :)

Wong8Egg

09-15-2006, 09:29 AM

Good point but because you have selected reading habits, you didn't pick up what I said about Bao and CJ. Here it is again in simpler terms : BAO is not class enough. CJ is really not that unbeatable now that LCW has figured him out. Kapish ?

Your point is totaly subjective. I think TKG2609 is trying to refer as if LCW can figure/learn/improve from other players, why can't other players figure/learn/improve over LCW???

TKG2609

09-15-2006, 10:24 AM

hopefully taufik will go to wc with high motivation ....

jgao_net

09-15-2006, 02:21 PM

Now CWL has improved a lot recently, but he may have developped a style that works against LD, but not other top players..
i totally agree with you here. that's what i have also noticed. im not saying LWC can't beat top players (eg. PG, TH or CJ etc.) im saying he's always going to have to change his style against those players whenever he plays them. A good example of this is when he played CJ in the HK Open. LWC hadn't ever played him before and was totally suprised through the first and game and half of the second game. Even in the 3rd game, it came down to the wire because LWC still hadnt completely coped with CJ, but ultimately prevailed only because of experience.

This is different from LD where as he doesnt change his style from player to player. he always plays really consistantly.

im putting my $$$$ on Lin Dan. i wouldnt at all be suprised if LWC lost to CJ.

Bao

09-15-2006, 10:47 PM

TKG2609

09-16-2006, 12:12 AM

Jessica

09-16-2006, 12:21 AM

Actually everybody stand a chance but must see who know how to use it...So,just support the player you think is worth it...We can't say impossible in the match...Many things will happen..

cooler

09-16-2006, 02:48 AM

Badminton: Hafiz fired up to break jinx
16 Sep 2006
K.M. Boopathy

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IT doesn’t matter if he trains under his long-term coach Misbun Sidek or Chinese coach Li Mao. Whatever it is, Hafiz Hashim is all fired up to script his best outing in the World Badminton Championships in Madrid which begin on Monday.

Misbun, who was unable to travel with the national squad on Sept 6 because of chicken pox, only arrived in Madrid yesterday. Hafiz has been training under Li Mao for the last nine days.

However, Hafiz said he has no problem with Li Mao’s training, as he managed to adapt to the latter’s system.

His main focus now is to break the preliminary round jinx in the World Championships, and reach the quarterfinals at least.

Hafiz, seeded joint fifth, begins with an easy first round match against Scott Evans of Wales. He is expected to play Slovakia’s Michal Matejka and should secure his quarter-final berth by beating Dicky Palyama of the Netherlands.

In the last eight, he is likely to face favourite Lin Dan of China.

"I have been preparing well for the tournament and although my form has not been consistent this year, I’m looking forward to reach at least the last eight," said the 24-year-old Hafiz in a telephone interview from Madrid yesterday.

"I also managed to get adapted to Li Mao’s training, and I can start training with Misbun tomorrow (today). It has been a good experience for me to train under Li Mao.

"My hope is that whatever effort I’ve put in for this tournament, will come good and hopefully I can produce my normal game."

"The only thing I must avoid now is injury. Otherwise, I’m ready for the tournament."

Jessica

09-16-2006, 03:24 AM

Hafiz....prove yourself...Support you too...

**KZ**

09-16-2006, 04:31 AM

:D:D:D:D:D see the draws its so eazy for Bao Chun Lai to take the tittle the restriction may come from Lee Chong Wei in Quarter Final after that I thing Bao can beat all, Hopefully he will meet Taufik In Final. BCL Vs TH in Final, NIce:D

erm...:rolleyes: ...i don't think it's possible...CJ beatin LCW is urm 40% possible but not BCL....
his record agaisnt chong wei is erm...6-0 ?
so it's not gonna happen....LCW all the way !!!!:)

Han

09-17-2006, 12:40 AM

jumpjump

09-17-2006, 02:55 AM

LD will win. The first reason is because he needs it, lastly he is simply the best at this time.

Jessica

09-17-2006, 03:01 AM

Every player need the WC...You can't say like this...

pjswift

09-17-2006, 03:16 AM

I rather see Hafiz cotinue to be tutor under Li Mao, not too much on techniques rather more on concept and strategy on the whole duration of WC. Why making thing so complicated by switching back to Misbun again few days before the event? Not a wise move. Anyway, if anyone who's capable of creating upset is still Hafiz and as long as he can sustain his attack and minimise his unnecessary fancy trick shots then he has chance to beat Lin Dan. It's very diffuclt to beat Lin Dan once he advance deep into the round, gets him before QF is quite possible.

Agree Hafiz is dangerous to LD. Nice to hear he is comfortable with Li Mao's guidance.
BTW, former Thomas Cupper Tan Yee Khan didn't rate TH highly ,citing unimpressive buildup to WC. Can anyone confirm whether TH needed an impressive buildup before winning both the OC2004 and WC2005 other than the IO title? TH, to me, is uniquely talented but what I would call ,'a minimum effort person'.In other words, most of the time, showing very little but fantastic in rising to the occasion when critical and delivering.
However,for LD, I think atmosphere is very important, whether it's LD country. Madrid is not Macao, it's more like Athens. LD froze facing TH in SO2005 and WC2005.

2cents

09-17-2006, 11:36 AM

pjswift

09-17-2006, 09:33 PM

LD's popularity is catching up... Any good news from him? or bad news from Lee CW ? Lee's popularity just dropped 4%. Taufik was third, ahead of Gade when last time I saw it. He created bad news again?

Good for LD. Guess he needs some propping up.Heard TH 's out of WC cos of IBF ban. Then we 'll likely have a LCW vs LD final. Terrific!

cabfan

09-18-2006, 02:41 AM

Why Kenneth Jonassen is out? What has happened?

pramilainc

09-18-2006, 03:16 AM

He slipped. .

Why Kenneth Jonassen is out? What has happened?

cabfan

09-18-2006, 03:37 AM

Why he slipped?

pramilainc

09-18-2006, 03:44 AM

Because the floor was wet.

Why he slipped?

pramilainc

09-18-2006, 03:47 AM

I could have got my post count a little higher by explaining one sentence at a time, then again forum admin might have some problem with that.. Here 's a press release you might find more informative..

http://www.badmintonsite.com/news/showsinglenews.aspx?id=127

Why he slipped?

arice_MAS

09-18-2006, 06:50 AM

Really Hope Lee Chong Wei Will Win Wc This Year...malaysia Boleh

Calvenng

09-18-2006, 09:52 PM

2cents

09-18-2006, 10:27 PM

Boonsak could be the darkhorse. If he overcome Peter in Round of 16 he will meet Taufik or Chen Hong in 1/4. Now he has a good chance to win. Then he will meet Lin Dan in 1/2 final. Very tough but he still can upset on his day. Final vs LCW or Chen Jin, cannot rule Boonsak out..

What you said is absolutely correct, but the final chance is:

1/2 (against PG) x 1/2 (against TH or CH) x 1/3 (against LD) x 1/3 (against LCW or CJ) = 1/36 = 2.7%

So if not rule Boonsak out, his chance is just 2.7 % according to your assumption. :)

extremenanopowe

09-18-2006, 11:38 PM

I'll go for LCW this time. So, LCW supporter, dun just play play, but must pray pray hard hard ok? can use bomoh also this time...
rgds

Calvenng

09-19-2006, 12:44 AM

What you said is absolutely correct, but the final chance is:

1/2 (against PG) x 1/2 (against TH or CH) x 1/3 (against LD) x 1/3 (against LCW or CJ) = 1/36 = 2.7%

So if not rule Boonsak out, his chance is just 2.7 % according to your assumption. :)

You are very close. Bookmaker has quote of 1 to 30 for Boonsak to win.:D

ctjcad

09-19-2006, 02:36 AM

..alright, in just a few hrs, his journey will commence..And after some thoughts on this, i would say:
If Taufik is able to go all the way & win the title again..And if he's able to overcome all his opponents and go all the way to repeat as champion again, then i must say, he's almost definitely and deservedly, be considered the "best" or possibly "the greatest" MS player in the current generation(last 8-10 yrs). Esp. looking at what's going on around him since beginning of the yr:
1. Getting hitched(married) earlier this yr..skipped All-England..
2. Haven't been competing(or maybe even trained or practiced) much or at all this yr, except for 3 tourneys(winning in 1 of them) and a couple of exhibition matches..
3. Haven't played much with the current scoring system..which doesn't fit his style at all..
4. Being sent packing home after arriving for the SO because of his recent report of him having a son born out of wedlock..
5. Most likely losing interest/motivation to win the WC again, as reported in various medias/news..
6. His recent unstable emotional outbursts in the Korea Open and HK Open..
7. Displayed some uneasiness and complained with the way PBSI is handling the finance/money contract to the players..
8. Reports that he didn't practice much in preparation for the WC..
9. Being ranked very low, unprecedented in his previous championship-title run..and will have to go through possibly 3 CHN top MS player in order to win the title, unlike last yr and 2 yrs ago..
10. And now facing a possible "ban"(for who knows how long) from IBF for his recent actions..
11. And last, being the man with the biggest "spotlight" on stage this yr, having the most pressure as the current defending champion..
and who knows what other issues...of course, some if not most of them are out of his own doing...but..

could this be the "toughest" and arguably the "greatest" championship for him, career-wise, ever??..Can anyone name another player(male or female), currently playing in the WC, that is close to being in his spotlight??..:rolleyes: ;)

All the odds are against him, will he wilt under pressure or step up to the challenge & proof otherwise??..my money is not on him to repeat, but we shall wait and see..:cool:

kontrabando

09-19-2006, 04:07 AM

arice_MAS

09-19-2006, 04:18 AM

I'll go for LCW this time. So, LCW supporter, dun just play play, but must pray pray hard hard ok? can use bomoh also this time...
rgds

i will pray and always pray to lcw...that funny but i think i don't want to use bomoh lar this time..

indra

09-19-2006, 04:20 AM

[quote=ctjcad]..alright, in just a few hrs, his journey will commence..And after some thoughts on this, i would say:
If Taufik is able to go all the way & win the title again..And if he's able to overcome all his opponents and go all the way to repeat as champion again, then i must say, he's almost definitely and deservedly, be considered the "best" or possibly "the greatest" MS player in the current generation(last 8-10 yrs). Esp. looking at what's going on around him since beginning of the yr:
1. Getting hitched(married) earlier this yr..skipped All-England..
2. Haven't been competing(or maybe even trained or practiced) much or at all this yr, except for 3 tourneys(winning in 1 of them) and a couple of exhibition matches..
3. Haven't played much with the current scoring system..which doesn't fit his style at all..
4. Being sent packing home after arriving for the SO because of his recent report of him having a son born out of wedlock..
5. Most likely losing interest/motivation to win the WC again, as reported in various medias/news..
6. His recent unstable emotional outbursts in the Korea Open and HK Open..
7. Displayed some uneasiness and complained with the way PBSI is handling the finance/money contract to the players..
8. Reports that he didn't practice much in preparation for the WC..
9. Being ranked very low, unprecedented in his previous championship-title run..and will have to go through possibly 3 CHN top MS player in order to win the title, unlike last yr and 2 yrs ago..
10. And now facing a possible "ban"(for who knows how long) from IBF for his recent actions..
11. And last, being the man with the biggest "spotlight" on stage this yr, having the most pressure as the current defending champion..
and who knows what other issues...of course, some if not most of them are out of his own doing...but..

could this be the "toughest" and arguably the "greatest" championship for him, career-wise, ever??..Can anyone name another player(male or female), currently playing in the WC, that is close to being in his spotlight??..:rolleyes: ;)

Taufik will rule in this WC....

I sense that LCW, LD, CJ, Bonsaak, CH are beginning to get nervous enough to meet TH.

I like this current situation in which TH has been under strong attacks and many people have doubted his competence....TH will prove otherwise....

indra

09-19-2006, 04:21 AM

jane_my

09-19-2006, 04:34 AM

wish chong wei could win the title!
it is tough but wish him all the best!

Jessica

09-19-2006, 05:41 AM

Indra...I know you love Taufik but must not be too certain..

taufik-ist

09-19-2006, 05:45 AM

Indra...I know you love Taufik but must not be too certain..

it's OK, jess... there are also many LCW fans like INDRA :D

Bao

09-19-2006, 09:04 AM

it's OK, jess... there are also many LCW fans like INDRA :D
absolutely Taufik-ist theres so many LCW fans like Indra. and I'm fans of Taufik too. SO--............
Finally Congratz to Taufik:D goes thru 2nd Round. Poor NG Wei:crying:

Jessica

09-19-2006, 09:08 AM

You are very strange...Happy for taufik and sad for Ng Wei...Who are you support actually???

hong li ling

09-19-2006, 09:15 AM

LeE cHonG wEi.. hE iS pLaYinG wELL... i Am he Fan..

jumpjump

09-19-2006, 09:16 AM

let us just wait for the closing stages...this tournament is full of surprises.{:

jumpjump

09-19-2006, 09:20 AM

I can't wait till the weekend...semi finals and finals day...hahaha{:

cao ci dan

09-19-2006, 10:27 AM

absolutely Taufik-ist theres so many LCW fans like Indra. and I'm fans of Taufik too. SO--............
Finally Congratz to Taufik:D goes thru 2nd Round. Poor NG Wei:crying:
:crying: :crying: but there're less lin dan fans like indra here...:D :D
indra,you're popular as taufik...:cool: :cool:

ctjcad

09-19-2006, 02:27 PM

black_knight006

09-19-2006, 04:07 PM

I think Peter Gade will be the World Champion.

There are really just four players that are far superior players than the rest: Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei, Peter Gade and Taufik Hidayat. Lin Dan is physically the strongest of the four. Lee Chong Wei is a very well-rounded player. Taufik is the most explosive. Peter is very fast and probably the smartest of the four.

Lin Dan's weak point is his net play. Taufik and Peter are the masters of net play. If Lin Dan meets either of the two, he could be in trouble. Of course, both Taufik and Peter would have to deal with their own weaknesses: Peter's stamina and Taufik's focus (he tends to get bored).

Taufik is undoubtedly the most gifted badminton player on the planet, he hasn't been playing his best recently though. He apparently has motivation problems too. He has already won the World Championship, maybe this time LD, LCW and PG wants to win more than him.

LCW, compared to the other three, does not excel in any particular area. He is very good at everything but he's not the best at anything. Peter is a bit faster than him. Lin Dan smashes just a tad stronger. Taufik's net play is just a millimeter tighter than LCW's. I don't think he'll be able to take control of the game at the critical moments.

There is realy just two things stopping PG from winning the WC: his knee and his luck. Skipping both the Korea Open and the Thailand Open, I think his knee should have gotten better already. As for luck, he has been close to winning the WC three times already, lady luck has got to smile the fourth time around.

Well it has turned out to be quite the draw. I should probably just start off by saying who I think the winner will be. And I have to say that it will most likely be a chinese player. The draw seems unusually tipped in their favour. Now lets not have everybody jump on me and say that I'm accusing someone of making the draw unfair. Its called the luck of the draw. And thats exactly what it is...and China lucked out this year.

The reason that I say that is because they seem to be relatively unopposed until the semi-finals for 3 of their fourentries. It is highly doubtful that Chen Jin will not be in the semi-finals against LCW. Although an upset is possible and Chen Jin could end up facing off against Bao Chunlai. We all know that Bao has the ability to take some of the best off their podium. But most likely LCW will be taking on the the chinese Chen Jin in the semi. (I am constantly surprised at how underrated Chen Jin is. Nobody ever thinks he will win squat...when he has the potential to upset the worlds best players. C'mon people...hes ranked 4th in the world for a reason!!)

Lin Dan is not going to be bothered until the semi-finals where he will face either Peter Gade, Taufik or his countrymate Chen Hong. (Although I really hope that Bobby Milroy of Canada knocks him out like Susilo did last year!! I really don't like Lin Dan after the Malaysian Open final).

Of all the chinese it would appear that Chen Hong is the worst off. To even make it to the semi-finals he'll have to take out both Taufik and Gade, which we all know is no small feat. Should he be able to beat Taufik in the round of 16 he'll have to take on Gade in the quarterfinals..and then Lin Dan in the semi-finals. So he's probably not going to make it to the finals:P (Personally if I was him I'd rather take on Taufik. He's already taken the World Championship title and as much as he'd like to win, I'm sure he could care less in the long run. If he looses he's not going to think back on it and say "man I wish I won that 2006 WC". Now next years All England Open I could see him really wanting considering its the only major title that he hasn't won. That tournament I am really interested in...and will most likely be watching live :) But back to what I was saying).

So I see at least 2 Chinese players in the semi-finals, and that is where it gets interesting, and from there on out we can only guess what happens. There is potentially room for all 4 Chinese entries to be in the semi-finals. It is highly highly unlikely....but remotely possible. Chen Jin was placed in the 1-16, Bao in the 17-32, Chen Hong in the 33-48, and Lin Dan in the 49-64. Funny how that works eh? Like I said...China really lucked out this year. Best possible draw I've ever seen for one country.

Personally I think the bottom half of the draw is much more interesting. Most of the heavy hitters are in the bottom.

Serious threats in the top half:
- LCW
- Bao Chunlai (highly doubtful)
- Chen Jin

Serious threats in the bottom half:
- Taufik Hidiyat
- Peter Gade
- Lin Dan
- Chen Hong
- Muh'd Hafiz Hashim
- Boonsak Ponsana (doubtful)

The match that I am looking forward to the most is going to be the semi-final match between either Chen Hong, Taufik or Peter Gade vs Lin Dan. Personally I hope its Taufik vs Lin Dan. So much history between the two. I really hope that Taufik has the ability to serve a large heaping of whoop-@$$ to Lin Dan. Lin Dan is waay too cocky and needs to be taken down a peg. Altho I would like to see another match between LD and LCW. I wanna see how badly Lin Dan wants it. However if Taufik overcomes Chen Hong in the round of 16, Peter Gade in the quarterfinals and Lin Dan in the semis, I think he deserves the finals agaist LCW or whoever else makes it that far. If he is able to win this tournament he will in my eyes be the greatest player to have ever played the sport. Better than Yang Yang or Morten Frost or anyone else that you can think of.

But finally I want to put out my guesses for the quarter finals. So from the top down my four quarterfinals are:

Lee Chong Wei
Lee Chong Wei
Bao Chunlai
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Chen Jin
Chen Jin
Hyun Ii Lee*
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Taufik Hidiyat
Peter Gade
Peter Gade
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Muh'd Hafiz Hashim
Lin Dan
Lin Dan
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* - I am not sure about Hyun Ii Lee...I think that he might fall to the Japanese Yousuke Nakanishi. I saw him play at the US Open (which he eventually won), and he was very impressive. He has been training hard for this tournament and he easily dispatched of his competition at the US Open. His semi-final against Stephen Wojckiwiecz and final against Andrew Dabeka, (both Canadians!!), were relatively unexciting. The Japanese could take it!

And that's all for now! I'll have more when the weekend hits!

ctjcad

09-19-2006, 04:39 PM

thanks for the input, black_knight006...rest of post snipped for brevity, going to comment on the comments below..
So I see at least 2 Chinese players in the semi-finals, and that is where it gets interesting, and from there on out we can only guess what happens. There is potentially room for all 4 Chinese entries to be in the semi-finals. It is highly highly unlikely....but remotely possible. Chen Jin was placed in the 1-16, Bao in the 17-32, Chen Hong in the 33-48, and Lin Dan in the 49-64. Funny how that works eh? Like I said...China really lucked out this year. Best possible draw I've ever seen for one country.
hmm, if i'm not mistaken, last yr's WC's MS draw is quite similar to this yr's as well. With 3 of CHN's top MS players spread out in each quarter. The only difference this yr and last yr's is the inclusion of the young Chen Jin in the mix. You can see this link for last yr's WC's MS draw:
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=8350&draw=2
The match that I am looking forward to the most is going to be the semi-final match between either Chen Hong, Taufik or Peter Gade vs Lin Dan. Personally I hope its Taufik vs Lin Dan. So much history between the two. I really hope that Taufik has the ability to serve a large heaping of whoop-@$$ to Lin Dan. Lin Dan is waay too cocky and needs to be taken down a peg. Altho I would like to see another match between LD and LCW. I wanna see how badly Lin Dan wants it. However if Taufik overcomes Chen Hong in the round of 16, Peter Gade in the quarterfinals and Lin Dan in the semis, I think he deserves the finals agaist LCW or whoever else makes it that far. If he is able to win this tournament he will in my eyes be the greatest player to have ever played the sport. Better than Yang Yang or Morten Frost or anyone else that you can think of.
hehe, actually another one of our BC member mentioned something similar in his post, see :
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=429119#post429119 (post #16)
Oh, BTW, re the comment i've highlighted in bold, i know that's "in your eyes", but I think it's more reasonable to say if Taufik wins again, his achievements is arguably the "greatest" for the *current generation* of players..Cos different times and eras, different types of players..Each one has its own "greatness"..;)