View Full Version : Eriksen: No way a Malaysian pair can win the world title
TheSTar Sept 19th
MALAYSIA feel that their men's doubles pairs – Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah, Chan Chong Ming-Koo Kien Keat and Mohd Fairuzizuan Tazari-Lin Woon Fui – stand a chance to win the world title.
But veteran Dane Jens Eriksen says “no way”. The 36-year-old Eriksen, who is searching for his first world title together with Martin Lungaard Hansen, sees only two pairs who are up to the mark to claim the title.
“I feel that Martin and I stand a very good chance to go all the way. Age is not a factor and we believe that we are in top condition at the moment,” said Eriksen.
“I only see the top seeds, Cai Yun and Fu Haifeng (of China), as the pair who are capable of stopping us from winning our first world title.”
He added that similar to the Malaysians, the Indonesian pairs were also not good enough to win the title.
The Indonesian pairs in the fray are Hong Kong Open champions Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan and Luluk Hadiyanto-Alven Yulianto.
Eriksen's and Hansen's hopes of clinching their first world title are also boosted by the latter's recovery from a recent knee injury.
“Martin has recovered fully and he is no longer bothered by injury. He has been testing the knee in training and it is holding up well,” said Eriksen.
The Danes, who won the All-England and European Championships titles this year, are the third-fourth seeds and they are drawn to play against Chong Ming-Kien Keat in the quarter-finals. The Chinese top seeds are in the same half of the draw.
2cents
09-18-2006, 07:30 PM
What about if Lin Dan team up with Lee CW to play men's doubles? Or Lin Dan/Bao CL for a pure CHN pair?
Once upon a time, long time best singles players Lee Ling Wei and Han Ai Ping decided to play doubles together, then they were invincible in doubles also. So any double players should not claim they are the best, because the real best are playing singles...
Quasimodo
09-18-2006, 08:47 PM
That's a bit of a slap to all doubles players of any levels, isn't it? Basically, you're saying that they're all singles rejects and that the only reason they play doubles is because they can't make it in singles.
Anyhow, back on topic, while only time will tell whether or not Eriksen's prediction will turn out favourably or not, I think they'll do well to remember the lesson of last year's WC. IIRC, they started as the #1 seed then only to lose to the favourite home pair.
hcyong
09-18-2006, 11:16 PM
I think it's mind games. The Danes (especially Jens) are good at that.
Malaysia and Indoensia should thank Eriksen for that, his statement should inject extra enegy to his opponents, Eriksen better win else he will find his words hard to swallow. I am sure every team like to meet Malaysia in the final as we have yet to proof that we can win in that stage but meeting Malaysian pair in QF or SF is no fun.
fifteen luv
09-18-2006, 11:40 PM
I think it's mind games. The Danes (especially Jens) are good at that.
Trying to bring down the morale of Malaysian players when they meet each other.
badMania
09-18-2006, 11:41 PM
Malaysia and Indoensia should thank Eriksen for that, his statement should inject extra enegy to his opponents, Eriksen better win else he will find his words hard to swallow. I am sure every team like to meet Malaysia in the final as we have yet to proof that we can win in that stage but meeting Malaysian pair in QF or SF is no fun.
Indeed. I personally don't think the Danish pair will win it..because of the recent injury to Lundgaard-Hansen. If Choong/Lee can beat Kido/Hendra in the round of 16, they will have a very good chance.
pjswift
09-19-2006, 12:33 AM
Malaysia and Indoensia should thank Eriksen for that, his statement should inject extra enegy to his opponents, Eriksen better win else he will find his words hard to swallow. I am sure every team like to meet Malaysia in the final as we have yet to proof that we can win in that stage but meeting Malaysian pair in QF or SF is no fun.
Agree. Eriksen's using the wrong psychology. Belittling the MAS MD will only get them fired up.Malaysians are like that. They are quite happy chatting away until they hear their house is on fire! Now I wonder if CTF/LWW will play like bungling old fools......As for CCM/KKK, they won't win unless KKK let go of the XD.(Sure Rexy is confident KKK has two tanks, based on their intensive training lasting 4 hours. But training is different from competition. You have to think a lot more when competing and that burns up a lot of energy. Which means one of KKK's tanks will be leaking....And when it comes to the final stage,when winning could be by a whisker,being just a little bit fresher may be the winning edge.When fatigue sets in ,errors pile up and with the NSS, you lose a match because you make more errors.)
So ,MAS, be wise, let KKK /WPT lose the XD. Pls give your Singapore cousin a break. They need it. Fight the war that matters.
Jessica
09-19-2006, 01:38 AM
I think Eriksen should not be too objective towards this matter...He is simply too confidence to himself and his partner...Don't forget this,there are no sure win or lose in the competition..I personally think that the level of MD is very near and any pair has the chance to win...So,just wait and see if the Danes pair will become the winner...But my heart tell me the winner is not them...Ha..ha...
cao ci dan
09-19-2006, 01:41 AM
What about if Lin Dan team up with Lee CW to play men's double...
:D :D :D must be unbeatable then...:cool:
ctjcad
09-19-2006, 01:58 AM
That's a bit of a slap to all doubles players of any levels, isn't it? Basically, you're saying that they're all singles rejects and that the only reason they play doubles is because they can't make it in singles.
Anyhow, back on topic, while only time will tell whether or not Eriksen's prediction will turn out favourably or not, I think they'll do well to remember the lesson of last year's WC. IIRC, they started as the #1 seed then only to lose to the favourite home pair.
hmm, just want to make a comment as you brought some memories to last yr's WC...IMO, eventhough it takes 2 to tango in Men's Doubles, i think whichever pair(s) has/have the "best" remaining doubles player(s), to be specific Men's Doubles, that pair(s) will have a very high chance of going far & winning the title this yr...Just like last yr and in 2003 or even earlier..
So, on that note, can anyone possibly single or filter out that 1 or 2 or 3 "best" current doubles players in the tourney??..:confused: ;)
kobe77sg
09-19-2006, 01:59 AM
Eriksen is too arogan . maybe he forgot that luluk/alven has beaten them before. And he also underestimate the malaysian and indonesian pair. Maybe he forgot the head to head below
vs luluk/alven 2-3
vs markis/hendra 1-1
It is true that he has better head to head agains malaysian MD
vs lee/chong 4-2
vs chan/koo 2-0
**KZ**
09-19-2006, 02:11 AM
erm...the last meeting between CCM/KKK and eriksen/lungaard ended in malaysian's favour....T/U Cup....
Jessica
09-19-2006, 03:07 AM
Ya..KKK/CCM did win over them what...
Ethan
09-19-2006, 03:14 AM
And not forgetting two of their wins against choong & lee are during the all-england finals when they blew a huge lead away when they should have win it !
Wildstone
09-19-2006, 03:30 AM
Malaysia and Indoensia should thank Eriksen for that, his statement should inject extra enegy to his opponents, Eriksen better win else he will find his words hard to swallow. I am sure every team like to meet Malaysia in the final as we have yet to proof that we can win in that stage but meeting Malaysian pair in QF or SF is no fun.
So true, meeting malaysian in all stages other than final will be scary. As for malaysians in the final, oh well they will end up in silver medal, even the opponent is relatively weaker.
milolo
09-19-2006, 03:36 AM
malaysian pairs tend to falter at the final of big tournament. they need to improve their mental toughness, thou they showed great improvemnt under rexy now. not surprise if they fail at the SF stage.
Eriksen had a point here.
chehsi
09-19-2006, 03:45 AM
:D :D :D must be unbeatable then...:cool:
ahahah.. LCW+LD=unbeatable? .. or they'll be beating each other!? :p
arice_MAS
09-19-2006, 04:23 AM
i think they'll be beating each other..haha
Cheung
09-19-2006, 05:50 AM
Once upon a time, long time best singles players Lee Ling Wei and Han Ai Ping decided to play doubles together, then they were invincible in doubles also. So any double players should not claim they are the best, because the real best are playing singles...
That was twenty years ago!!!:eek:
The last player to really have played singles and doubles competitvely was Park Joo Bong. Even then, he didn't play both at the same time. Zhang Ning did so a little bit. She played with Ge Fei when Gu Jun was inhured.
Cheung
09-19-2006, 05:53 AM
The Malaysians had better do something. They can't take a statement like that from Eriksen lying down!!:)
2cents
09-19-2006, 06:45 AM
That was twenty years ago!!!:eek:
The last player to really have played singles and doubles competitvely was Park Joo Bong. Even then, he didn't play both at the same time. Zhang Ning did so a little bit. She played with Ge Fei when Gu Jun was inhured.
:D Singles can play doubles when they have extra time and energy. Have you seen any double player play singles when they have extra energy? actually they always have extra energy, but never play singles, because they will lose for sure.:D
Dreamzz
09-19-2006, 07:09 AM
:D Singles can play doubles when they have extra time and energy. Have you seen any double player play singles when they have extra energy? actually they always have extra energy, but never play singles, because they will lose for sure.:D
hahaha, this is funny. the tactics and judgement and everything else is so different, and with such a competitive environment these days, i don't think anyone can be the best at both singles and doubles anymore.
weeyet
09-19-2006, 07:39 AM
So true, meeting malaysian in all stages other than final will be scary. As for malaysians in the final, oh well they will end up in silver medal, even the opponent is relatively weaker.
totally agree with you, cheah/yap, choong/lee have proved to us
weeyet
09-19-2006, 07:41 AM
:D Singles can play doubles when they have extra time and energy. Have you seen any double player play singles when they have extra energy? actually they always have extra energy, but never play singles, because they will lose for sure.:D
i've seen choong tan fook playing singles in a local tournament but lose to an unknown player very quickly in the first round. :p
Jessica
09-19-2006, 08:33 AM
Why the MD players will lose easily when they play single???Is it they are not used to it...
Tjun Tjun
09-19-2006, 09:05 AM
Why the MD players will lose easily when they play single???Is it they are not used to it...
Wong Choon Han is the only Malaysian player who can play both singles and doubles ......
Jessica
09-19-2006, 09:10 AM
Is it???Ya...i remembered now...He play as single as well as double in the Melbourne Commonwealth game...He is really a good player..Miss him a lot...
rudy6713
09-19-2006, 09:10 AM
I wont be surprised if one of Indonesian pairs arise and beat the danes...it happens many times...over confident can not be too good either.
Chu Liuxiang
09-19-2006, 09:23 AM
I wont be surprised if one of Indonesian pairs arise and beat the danes...it happens many times...over confident can not be too good either.
CCM/KKK will beat the danes in QF. A repeat match when both pairs met up during Thomas Cup this year where the Malaysian pair defeated the danish pair. Well, age does matter to the dnes and Martin L Hansen is also having injury which I think difficult to match the Malaysian pair.:D
Chu Liuxiang
09-19-2006, 09:34 AM
I think the most dangerous MD pair for Wc2006 could be Korean pair Jung/Lee.:D
blessing
09-19-2006, 10:08 AM
Eriksen is too over... over confident... toooo much over confident.. too much confident usually will end up wif a mess.. he shouldn't says like dat s a shuttler... Malaysian veteran pair is a very good example.. Choong/Lee played confidently n thought that that was a sure-win-game.. but wat they reserved....?? jux ended da game with jux a runner up title.. n even worse.. scolded from rexy mainaky by a long-distance call.. that is one of the thing i dun like in a sportsman's attitude.. too over confident.. i agree wif Han.. "Eriksen better win else he will find his words hard to swallow...." he better wins or else...will be very shamful and vry difficult to answer in front of the media n his fans...another quote by Han "....but meeting Malaysian pair in QF or SF is no fun." not only Malaysian pair..other countries pairs also is no fun as NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE.... the competition has not started yet...all da teams should... in malay call.."Berdiri sama tinggi..duduk sama rendah" do any1 can translate dis into english...thx~
They are just being confident. I don't blame Eriksen for being cocky.
terry
09-19-2006, 10:59 AM
If they are just confident also should not use "NO WAY" lor.
Well.. sometimes it might not be their own words. Media can do many things u know? heheh
... in malay call.."Berdiri sama tinggi..duduk sama rendah" do any1 can translate dis into english...
Meaning in English 'Stand same high..sit same low'
LOL !!
No live TV telecast here......:crying: :crying:
SteveStanley
09-19-2006, 12:02 PM
Eriksen/Lundgaard were the 1st seed in the 2005 Worlds, I'm sure they were also confident to win the trophy last year, but they lost in the quarterfinal to Tony/Howard badly 15-9, 15-10. It's good to be confident, but don't tell others that they don't have a chance or they don't deserve to win. Who are you to judge? :rolleyes:
pramilainc
09-20-2006, 12:29 AM
I don't really think Eriksen really meant that. It's just part of psychological warfare, hoping that KKK will take the bait and be charged up for the game and make too many mistakes. Eriksen is too experienced to undermine anyone...
Jessica
09-20-2006, 02:27 AM
Well...This is just his opinion and we can ignore it..Remember this..Anyone has a chance to win over the other players...This is just see you how to make use of the chance wisely...So..just ignore this comment...And i think the Dane pair shouldn't make this kind of comment no matter how confidence they are...
deROSE
09-20-2006, 03:05 AM
one word :WADEVER.Even tho he might be the one of the best players now and ok,he might emerge the champ this time around but, i dun think it was really wise of him to make such a statement.Pride comes before a fall.
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2006, 03:43 AM
I'm starting to feel nervous of the match between KKK/Chan CM and Hwang Ji/Han Sang Hoon at 10pm tonite. I want KKK to win badly but my fear is that KKK likes to play to the gallery ... that is perhaps his weakness and the Koreans cannot be taken lightly .... Can somebody tell me how good is this Korean pair? I'm more familiar with other Korean pairs.
I think this is a case of "creative translation" that we have seen several times from The Star in the past, especially when it comes to "quoting" Danish players and making them look very arrogant. It's happened to Gade, Kenneth, and now (my guess) to Eriksen. He might well have named Cai/Fu as his top contenders, but I really don't think he phrased it like the journalist put it.
**KZ**
09-20-2006, 04:37 AM
I'm starting to feel nervous of the match between KKK/Chan CM and Hwang Ji/Han Sang Hoon at 10pm tonite. I want KKK to win badly but my fear is that KKK likes to play to the gallery ... that is perhaps his weakness and the Koreans cannot be taken lightly .... Can somebody tell me how good is this Korean pair? I'm more familiar with other Korean pairs.
they'll be playing at 7 pm malaysian time....it'll be the 1st match televised on astro for today
xijiayu
09-20-2006, 04:47 AM
KKK/CCM withdraw from the championship, Msia first MD title may goes in smoke now!
khwong
09-20-2006, 04:54 AM
KKK/CCM withdraw from the championship, Msia first MD title may goes in smoke now!
What!:confused: Are you sure about this?
xijiayu
09-20-2006, 04:57 AM
Yes, look at other thread.
khwong
09-20-2006, 04:57 AM
Mark my words "Eriksen/Lundgaard won't win the champioinship":mad: I think the Koreans and Chinese are the top contenders.:D
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2006, 04:59 AM
KKK/CCM withdraw from the championship, Msia first MD title may goes in smoke now!
Are you serious? KKK/CCM injured? :crying: :crying: :crying:
xijiayu
09-20-2006, 05:01 AM
Are you serious? KKK/CCM injured? :crying: :crying: :crying:
Still waiting for the news, but yes, they withdraw.
Jessica
09-20-2006, 05:23 AM
I think is CCM who injured coz the XD for KKK didn't withdraw...So..
fukusami16
09-20-2006, 05:31 AM
Chan chong ming confirmed injured...
Simp84
09-20-2006, 09:45 AM
I think this is a case of "creative translation" that we have seen several times from The Star in the past, especially when it comes to "quoting" Danish players and making them look very arrogant. It's happened to Gade, Kenneth, and now (my guess) to Eriksen. He might well have named Cai/Fu as his top contenders, but I really don't think he phrased it like the journalist put it. yep... the word "no way" is definatly made up by the STARS....
Its a way to summarise everything they say in short...
So Malaysian fans please dun go too fanatic :D
ye333
09-20-2006, 10:11 AM
Ya... I think what Eriksen really meant is that they are kind of afraid of Cai/Fu's speed and power now but feel confident facing any other pairs. That's kind of a fair comment.
yep... the word "no way" is definatly made up by the STARS....
Its a way to summarise everything they say in short...
So Malaysian fans please dun go too fanatic :D
Malaysianfan
09-20-2006, 11:26 AM
yep... the word "no way" is definatly made up by the STARS....
No, New Straits times had the same word too.
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2006, 11:34 AM
All Chinese players are thru' to the next round ...... No defeats so far .....Ominous sign for the rest of the world ......
extremenanopowe
09-20-2006, 11:38 AM
well, we'll just have to show him the way in order to make the way. boleh kah?:D so far so good for malaysia boleh.... keep up the good work.
rgds
khwong
09-23-2006, 02:29 PM
Eriksen, no way a Danish pair can win the world title!:D :D :D
dreamloverhsy
09-23-2006, 04:29 PM
Eriksen..... if Malaysian pair have no chance with the title i don't think you can dream about it....
TrunkZ69
09-23-2006, 05:35 PM
A danish pair has won the WC lately. Jonas and Lars :)
ye333
09-23-2006, 06:46 PM
It seems Eriksen did good prediction. He mentioned Cai/Fu as the only real opponent and he got beaten exactly by Cai/Fu. :cool:
A danish pair has won the WC lately. Jonas and Lars :)
A danish pair has won the WC lately. Jonas and Lars :)
that is very true. i don't think a Malaysian pair has ever won a WC before, in fact, no Malaysian has ever won any badminton WC in any of the 5 events. got to work harder, guys.
2cents
09-23-2006, 07:17 PM
that is very true. i don't think a Malaysian pair has ever won a WC before, in fact, no Malaysian has ever won any badminton WC in any of the 5 events. got to work harder, guys.
I remember that China got half of the total gold medals. So now China team will use this to evaluate their performance, i.e. if they got 2 gold medals, it's below average, not good; if they got 3 gold medals, they felt that they got the job done; if they got 4 medals, they would be very satisfied. Sometimes, they even got 5 gold medals. They also won gold medals at every WC, this is also extra-ordinary. While Malaysia, as a compatible competitor in badminton, has never won any gold for decades.
hara^kazuko
09-24-2006, 12:49 AM
I remember KKK and CCM winning a match against Jens Eriksen, why would he say that?
Felicia_txh
09-30-2006, 04:01 AM
Eriksen,don forget Malaysian pair beat u n ur partner during the Thomas Cup...
BMcentral
09-30-2006, 11:00 PM
They were right, the only group who is capable to beat them is Cai/Fu.
I was wondering how does Eriksen see the future. That's exactly what happened.
That's a good lesson about not get hot headed before the game. I don't care if you are LD, LCW, PG, or TH, (or LYB) if you get cocky, you r going down.
franxon
10-01-2006, 06:31 AM
i've seen choong tan fook playing singles in a local tournament but lose to an unknown player very quickly in the first round. :p
are you sure? from what i know, the chinese players, singles or doubles, all start with singles skills as these are the fundamentals. they are streamed later into singles or doubles with different emphasis on skills and tactics. Cai Yun was a singles player before he was transferred to MD to pair up with Fu HF. i don't know much about the malaysian players but it's still hard to imagine choong tan fook loses a singles first round if he plays seriously (he was seeded i guess?).
Singles can play doubles when they have extra time and energy. Have you seen any double player play singles when they have extra energy? actually they always have extra energy, but never play singles, because they will lose for sure.
you are either kidding or don't know what you are talking about my friend. both can play each other's game but neither can play each other's game well. unlike tennis or badminton 20 years ago, skills and tactics of singles and doubles are so specialized today, one can't even master his own job well, not to say both.
What about if Lin Dan team up with Lee CW to play men's doubles? Or Lin Dan/Bao CL for a pure CHN pair?
....So any double players should not claim they are the best, because the real best are playing singles...
even LD teams up LCW or BCL (how more impossible could it be?), they need a good deal of serious training to be a valuable pair.
"the real best are playing singles" simply suggests that you're either mis-informed or biased or both.
DoublesPlayer
10-13-2006, 08:24 AM
Eriksen/Lundgaard just lost to KKK/TBH 21-18, 17-21, 21-14 in Japan Open.
I'm glad, hopefully this will teach Eriksen something ...
blessing
10-21-2006, 10:44 AM
Eriksen/Lundgaard just lost to KKK/TBH 21-18, 17-21, 21-14 in Japan Open.
I'm glad, hopefully this will teach Eriksen something ...yayaya..good good... good... perfect pair...
jgao_net
10-27-2006, 05:49 PM
Eriksen/Lundgaard just lost to KKK/TBH 21-18, 17-21, 21-14 in Japan Open.
I'm glad, hopefully this will teach Eriksen something ...
jens didnt say that they werent ever going to lose to a malaysian team, he just said that the malaysians arent going to win the WC (for 2006), regardless of who beats the malaysians
kokcheng
10-27-2006, 09:15 PM
What a good way to prove Eriksen wrong in future?He is absolutely right.We still do not have the depth and quality to win a world title.But this is going to change soon as Rexy has the integrity to choose the best pairs to represent Malaysia.To capture the world title is not easy.We need a pool of world class double pairs to make our dream a reality.Right now we have strong pairs in KKK/TBH,Lin/TAzari,GAn/Zakry and TBS/OSH.Rexy has develop them into strong contenders.Now,to go into high gears to be world champions.This option is better than depending on one pair to win the world title.KL 2007 is approaching fast.Practise until you drop.Overcome your weaknesses and stengthten your mental approach towards the game.Be passionate.Love badminton and you all will be on your way to success.Last but not least,there is always room for LWW/CTF and CCM to make a comeback.Happy hunting!
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