World Championships 2006 Day 4 (21/09)

[DoublesPlayer]

TH - CH, it is a mental game now, whoever is stronger mentally will win

19 - 18 TH leading

[vivian87_cty]

tie again 18-18

[jamesd20]

19-18 TH favour .... so close!

[*izzyC*]

19-all!! are they trying to give us fans a heart attack or what??:D

[wynn000]

Both of them 19 now

[madbad]

19-19, a classic!

[jamesd20]

20-19 to CH one more point!!!My heart is pounding!!

[vivian87_cty]

TH lead with 19-18 going neck-to-neck

[Bresis]

1 point more,ch..u can do it!

[madbad]

CH at match point, and.....he wins 21-19. Congrats to CH

[jiayou]

20-19 for Chen honggggggggggggg

[vivian87_cty]

CH 20-19 to Th....

[Batu Pahat]

Chen Hong wins.

[DoublesPlayer]

TH is going home :eek:

[shuzzack]

'redha' already 4 wats gonna happen to our md....

[yingcheng]

21-19!
Chen Hong won!!!

[*izzyC*]

its over 21-19 for Chen Hong

[jamesd20]

CHEN HONG DOES IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21-19 in Final, we will have a new WC!

[pramilainc]

Taufik is owned!!!
CHEN HONG RULEZ!

[Bresis]

ch won!!! taufik is out...great wall of china is becoming more n more formidable...hope MD can win this...malaysia boleh!

[wynn000]

Th lost............... sigh

[jiayou]

chennnnn honggggggggggg won

[Shiryu]

Chen Hong!!!! my Hero!!!!!

[*izzyC*]

all the Chinese MS advance to the quarter finals.. what an achievement!

[vivian87_cty]

more chinese players in the next round lo

[wynn000]

haiz.... dissapointed again..

[jiayou]

loud shouted...... both shaked hand..... smile

desperate & happy

[Darth Andrianus]

Th vs CH 18-18 now

Ai! TH has lost, this is now the beginning of the end for TH. He should now realise he is not as great as he once was. He must either sort out his attitude/long-term injury or retire. Today both INA defending world champions have lost, it's time for others to take the WC title, how sad!

[Brave_Turtle]

OMG this is a must watch video!

[Sammy]

We should import players from other countries

I read an article from a local paper saying Zhou Mi is interested in representing Malaysia.

[vivian87_cty]

MD mas lead with 10-9

[**KZ**]

malaysia MD living dangerously

[Batu Pahat]

MS line up tomorrow. Very scary. 4 China players. How wonderul if all 4 non china players were to win

BCL v LCW
CJ V LHL
CH V PG
LD V HH

[emms626]

omg taufik lost

[other]

haha...i was wrong :o
well done Chen Hong:D:D
you've beaten your nemesis, and played well overall...now i can do that gardening

[madbad]

Taufik is owned!!!
CHEN HONG RULEZ!

Haha, your loyalty for Chen Hong is rewarded :)

[jamesd20]

Chen Hongs Best performance of his career IMO even moreso than AE victories.

Only LCW can stop CHN now. All four players reach QF:eek:

Bad news for CH though, he has to play PG next, his "other" nemesis.

[2cents]

Just another unlucky day for INA

sorry for that

I made all my prediction correct except the Taufik vs Chen Hong.

Well Taufik is not as good as I thought

Chen Hong is right. He said "Taufik is so unlucky to be in his quarter"

On the other hand, it seems IBF's draw works perfectly so far

[FAST!]

With CH win today?

Does it mean that LD will seal for the WC MS champion for sure?

[Han]

At least Taufik has done a favour for Peter, dragged Chen into rubber :D

[Darth Andrianus]

Ai! TH has lost, this is now the beginning of the end for TH. He should now realise he is not as great as he once was. He must either sort out his attitude/long-term injury or retire. Today both INA defending world champions have lost, it's time for others to take the WC title, how sad!


One last thing, for those TH fans of you out there, please, no more excuses!

[other]

MS line up tomorrow. Very scary. 4 China players. How wonderul if all 4 non china players were to win

BCL v LCW
CJ V LHL
CH V PG
LD V HH

lol...that's a bit harsh. You don't want them to win because they are Chinese? It's a competition, let the best player on the day win :cool:

[Malaysianfan]

I read an article from a local paper saying Zhou Mi is interested in representing Malaysia.

Yap, but although BAM would like to accept the offer, MSN seems to be against it.

[emms626]

now malaysia md 14:10

[jamesd20]

BTW MAS MD lead 15-10 in second (lost first)

Tracey Hallam through to QF with easy Victory, well done!

[madbad]

In other matches...
Hallam won 21-12, 21-7
XD CHN 16-12 THA
MD MAS 17-13 CHN

[virusvoodoo]

Taufik is owned!!!
CHEN HONG RULEZ!


Sweet! I'm glad one of my favorite players came through. Hopefully this will make it easier for Peter Gade to make it to the semi-final.

[Batu Pahat]

China v China not fun to watch

[extremenanopowe]

Weldone CH; I was hoping to see another TH LD match. Maybe next time lah...

[**KZ**]

c'mon m'sia wrap it up...their catching up

[chika]

too bad for taufik.. CHN VS CHN in the final is just sooooooo boring... haha.. Lindan must be very happy rite now..
aaaaaaaaarrrrh.. bad day for INA and MAS..

[other]

China v China not fun to watch
well they don't all have to lose tomorrow :rolleyes:
anyways, I think CH should be applauded for a fine performance

[vivian87_cty]

gambateh mas, 2 points to go to make to rubber game

[madbad]

CHN wins XD 21-12, 21-14
MAS wins 2nd set in MD 21-16

[vivian87_cty]

yeah, rubber game for MD

[Batu Pahat]

We win 2nd set. Rubber set. Die Die must win

[Morten]

looks like China is gonna dominate this event bigtime and could easily run away with 5 gold medals. Only in mix doubles and doubles i see people matching/being better than them. As a dane i have to have faith in PG and I must admit that he looked convincing today, but to overcome both CH and LD may and most likely will be to hard to overcome. I think PG will meet LD in the semi and it will be a hell of a match with LD winning in 3 sets. Winner of that match could likely be the new WC in MS

[vivian87_cty]

strive to win, malaysia boleh

[pramilainc]

I also wan Gade to make it through, but now that CH is on a roll, Gade might find it harder than TH. Then again I think CH has better chance of winning against LD than PG has, and I dun wan LD to win WC.


Sweet! I'm glad one of my favorite players came through. Hopefully this will make it easier for Peter Gade to make it to the semi-final.

[Malaysianfan]

Well didnt hear the news about MSN against it but it would be a good move to have Zhou Mi in the team. She can help to bring up the standard of MAS lady players.

MSN prefers her to be the sparing partner for MAS but not representing MAS. Anyway, it is still under consideration.

[vivian87_cty]

malaysian women player need this kind of supervision

[**KZ**]

c'mon m'sia.....pls win this....pls win this....crucial

[edwin]

At least Taufik has done a favour for Peter, dragged Chen into rubber :D
Hard to say. If it's the 15 point scoring system, Chen Hong might be tired after being dragged into the rubber, but with the 21 point scoring system, he may still be full of energy.

[jamesd20]

PG may have another chance to become Champion.

I don't think CH fitness will affect him 2mo, it will be more his nerves, gameplan, and the fact he has exited the QF stage at every Major tournment since 2003!:eek:

8-6 in MD to MAS

Gao/Huang easy against TPE pair

[**KZ**]

9-6 m'sia up...yes....u can do it

[Batu Pahat]

Pulling slightly ahead 9-6

[extremenanopowe]

potentially ms will be won by 3rd seeded above. They are more hungry. lets see the next games.

[ronk]

MSN prefers her to be the sparing partner for MAS but not representing MAS. Anyway, it is still under consideration.

Who is MSN? Malaysia is now joining the pack of buying Chinese playes? China must have too many players to spare.

[virusvoodoo]

I also wan Gade to make it through, but now that CH is on a roll, Gade might find it harder than TH. Then again I think CH has better chance of winning against LD than PG has, and I dun wan LD to win WC.

Yeah, I'm a little bit worried for Gade as well because Chen is still younger and stronger than him. However, if Gade can control the game like in their previous meetings, then Gade will win.

I want Lee Choong Wei to win, if Gade does not make it pass Chen Hong and Lin Dan. If the final is between two China men then I'd go for Chen Hong (Chen Jin vs Chen Hong).

[Batu Pahat]

MSN is Majlis Sukan Negara

[ccskaki]

Yes! Chen Hong won!
Now the only real obstacle against a China MS crown is Peter Gade.

For the China team, Peter Gade is more dangerous than LCW. LCW can be magnificent at certain times but he is less consistent than PG.

[**KZ**]

argh...c'mon m'sia....don't give up

[jamesd20]

MAS MD edging ahead 11-10

[wynn000]

CHN vs MAS 9-10

[ccskaki]

And sh!t CCTV5 is showing the less interesting game (WD) instead of the MD.

[madbad]

MAS 11-9 CHN. MAS first to the break. NO unforced errors:eek: . Amazing

[badMania]

Just my opinion, alternative player is M. Rizal or Lingga Lie, both players are 1 year younger than Lilyana.

Rizal is already paired up with Gresya and they are now in the top 25. For Lingga Lie, it's a possible alternative since he's too good now to be playing in Satelitte tournaments. He has won 3 Satelitte this year (with 2 different parters, so, definitely a very versatile player) :cool: Richard Mainaky should think about possible breaking the pair up after today's disastrous achievement!

[vivian87_cty]

MD chn/mas 9-11

[shuzzack]

so nervous rite now....

[wynn000]

CCTV got show the game now??

[madbad]

And sh!t CCTV5 is showing the less interesting game (WD) instead of the MD.
That's because CHN WD is playing

[vivian87_cty]

MD Chn/Mas 10-12

[madbad]

MAS creating a bit of a gap, 14-10

[vivian87_cty]

yeah, now into 10-14

[jamesd20]

MAS extending, 14-10 up now. Give MAS supporters some Cheer!

[Batu Pahat]

15-10 to Malaysia

[extremenanopowe]

go taiping go...!

[vivian87_cty]

so nervous bout the result ald

[Sammy]

Who is MSN? Malaysia is now joining the pack of buying Chinese playes? China must have too many players to spare.

MSN is the a government group which incharge of all sports activites. Malaysia is not yet joining the pack. According to the paper Zhou Mi was not happy with one of the Chinese National coaching staffs and she picked to join Malaysia is because of the high standard of Malaysian badminton and coaching staffs. Also she can speak Mandarin in Malaysia and Chinese food is very easy to get.

[wynn000]

16-13 now Mas come on

[vivian87_cty]

now mas 16-13 .....

[Batu Pahat]

17-13 now to Malaysia

[2cents]

I think Xie ZB and Chinese coach want them giveup, so Zie ZB can concentrate on mixed double. Guo ZD should disagree, but he cannot just fight himself.

In fact, Xie/Guo not capable winning the mens' double title, while Xie/Zhang YW could win XD.

So Lin/MM (MAS) will win for sure. Don't panic, please.

[**KZ**]

18-14 now....c'mon

[vivian87_cty]

mas now 18-14 lo

[Sammy]

That's because CHN WD is playing

They only have live cameras on court 2

[vivian87_cty]

now 19-14 , gambateh

[wynn000]

20 -14 now one more point

[extremenanopowe]

they should get tall players from basketball and volleyball and train the up.
rgds

[**KZ**]

20-14.....yes....

[vivian87_cty]

20-14 now mas, 1 point to go

[wynn000]

yeahhhhhhhh MAS MD won

[vivian87_cty]

yeah win 21-14 ...

[madbad]

MAS wins 21-14. A good win

[wynn000]

luckily if lost too don knoe how rexy will

[ants]

Msian doubles won 21-14

[Batu Pahat]

We won. Now for the Korean pair

[vivian87_cty]

my bad mood gone alittle lo, so happy now

[ccskaki]

That's because CHN WD is playing

MD also involves China team. And they only have 50% chance of winning. So exciting.

Whereas China has a 99.9% chance of winning this WD match.

[jamesd20]

21-14 now well done.

I like this pair, they have "fight", the only thing they like is the power to finish off rallies. If they had the power of CTF/LWW they would be awaesome.

[hcpoirot]

I wonder what Taufik excused this time after lost to Chen Hong in R16 despite:

1. He had better record against Chen Hong 7-1 before this match.
2. Chen Hong didn’t play so well with this new scoring system.

Will Taufik:

A. Again blame the line judgement treat him poorly like HK Open?
B. Tell another excuses that he didn’t train 100% to enter the WC?
C. Tell that he didn’t motivated enough cause he already won the WC title last year?
D. Or That he can’t concentrate cause IBF will give him punishment later after WC over?

Time for PBSI and Taufik to face the reality. If they and him want to become number one again in MS, train harder and less talk

Taufik should at least do better than QF in this WC after all his walkout action in HK Open QF. Not to mention his coach boasting that he can beat Lin Dan if they play in fair tournament. Looks like he and his coach. can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk.

[extremenanopowe]

cool.... malaysia boleh... can treat faiz cendol now. Lets go bismillah.

[junky]

who will mas pair against next match?

[madbad]

TPE 14-10 CHN XD 2nd set. WOW!
Cute JAP next in WD v Du/Yu

[jamesd20]

Whereas China has a 99.9% chance of winning this WD match.

Yes but they are down 14-9 in the second game now.

[badMania]

poor rexy !!!

tommorow mas news papers may bash him :rolleyes:

Don't worry...we'll always welcome him home.

Honestly, the first set was a non-event till the closing stages when both pairs upped the tempo. Both sides were making silly serving errors with very few rallies. I counted at least 5-6 service faults :cool: Kido/Hendra are lucky to wrap the first set up 22-20.

The second set was a totally different ball-game. Kido/Hendra were up for it and they were really fast! Choong/Lee simply couldn't handle their speed and ended up 3-11 behind at the interval. There was no coming back for the veteran pair as Kido/Hendra maintained their constant pressure on the Malaysians.

Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan have successfully passed their first stern test in the WC, beating Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah easily 22-20, 21-10. The next opponent is still yet to be determined as they are playing only now.
Now, they are more fired up to go all the way to the Final and win the WC...since they have beaten most pairs in their half! But...don't be overconfident...

[emms626]

Yap, but although BAM would like to accept the offer, MSN seems to be against it.


what msn ..........:)

[emms626]

yeah!malaysia md won

[vivian87_cty]

ok, im now can sleep ald, cant wait for the WS & WD for mas

[madbad]

I wonder what Taufik excused this time after lost to Chen Hong in R16 despite:

1. He had better record against Chen Hong 7-1 before this match.
2. Chen Hong didn’t play so well with this new scoring system.

Will Taufik:

A. Again blame the line judgement treat him poorly like HK Open?
B. Tell another excuses that he didn’t train 100% to enter the WC?
C. Tell that he didn’t motivated enough cause he already won the WC title last year?
D. Or That he can’t concentrate cause IBF will give him punishment later after WC over?

Time for PBSI and Taufik to face the reality. If they and him want to become number one again in MS, train harder and less talk

Taufik should at least do better than QF in this WC after all his walkout action in HK Open QF. Not to mention his coach boasting that he can beat Lin Dan if they play in fair tournament. Looks like he and his coach. can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk.

He already said earlier this week his goal was to win the Asian Games gold, so there's your excuse

[Batu Pahat]

Bye everyone. See you tomorrow. Got to work tomorrow

[shuzzack]

huh...wat a relieve!!!

[madbad]

TPE still holding the upperhand 18-14 over CHN
Cute JAP draw first blood 1-0 over CHN

[pramilainc]

Interestingly there was a marginally wrong baseline call went against Chen Hong, he complained a bit then got on with the game and finally won the set.


I wonder what Taufik excused this time after lost to Chen Hong in R16 despite:

1. He had better record against Chen Hong 7-1 before this match.
2. Chen Hong didn’t play so well with this new scoring system.

Will Taufik:

A. Again blame the line judgement treat him poorly like HK Open?
B. Tell another excuses that he didn’t train 100% to enter the WC?
C. Tell that he didn’t motivated enough cause he already won the WC title last year?
D. Or That he can’t concentrate cause IBF will give him punishment later after WC over?

Time for PBSI and Taufik to face the reality. If they and him want to become number one again in MS, train harder and less talk

Taufik should at least do better than QF in this WC after all his walkout action in HK Open QF. Not to mention his coach boasting that he can beat Lin Dan if they play in fair tournament. Looks like he and his coach. can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk.

[extremenanopowe]

good nite! brush your teeth hor friend...hehe...

[shuzzack]

ok, im now can sleep ald, cant wait for the WS & WD for mas
me too..2morrow im gonna go to kl early monen..gonna miss qf action as well:(:(:(

[emms626]

so 2molo malaysia md vs who

[2cents]

I wonder what Taufik excused this time after lost to Chen Hong in R16 despite:

1. He had better record against Chen Hong 7-1 before this match.
2. Chen Hong didn’t play so well with this new scoring system.

Will Taufik:

A. Again blame the line judgement treat him poorly like HK Open?
B. Tell another excuses that he didn’t train 100% to enter the WC?
C. Tell that he didn’t motivated enough cause he already won the WC title last year?
D. Or That he can’t concentrate cause IBF will give him punishment later after WC over?

Time for PBSI and Taufik to face the reality. If they and him want to become number one again in MS, train harder and less talk

Taufik should at least do better than QF in this WC after all his walkout action in HK Open QF. Not to mention his coach boasting that he can beat Lin Dan if they play in fair tournament. Looks like he and his coach. can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk.

Well said, I hope Taufik can keep his talk, which made things more colorful. but at the same time, he should play well and also should not boycott any matches when he's going to lose. That's not fun at all.

[ccskaki]

CCF/LWW have the best physical build among all the men doubles that Malaysia ever produced. But they also have probably the worst mental will.

Faiz/LinWF are much shorter and less powerful, but they give their best.

[xijiayu]

YKH said the target this year is to at least level the two semi-final spots last year. Hopefully, the MD could beat Korean pair tomorrow and qualify for semi-final.

[madbad]

CHN has caught up 20-20 TPE

[hcpoirot]

look at Fu/Cai, so much potential, but always lose. Chinese fans don't complain as much about them.

It a bit unfair isn't it? Cai/Fu already won 2 title this year. And they at least reach QF or better this year except at All England.

I don't even know that there are any MD pair who had not lost this year. Even Jens/Martin and Chandra/Tony lost in a tournament this year.

[extremenanopowe]

may the force be with malaysia! ayuh!

[madbad]

The Chines pull it off, caoming from behind in the second game, 21-11, 22-20.
Du/Yu hammering the JAP 11-3

[madbad]

Another Chinese WD pair on court now v the MAS pair. Last chance for a non-CHN pair to advance.

[shuzzack]

gonna switch off my pc now..nunite everyone!!!!n not 4get,gud lux to wmc and wpt/ceh!!!

[doublewings]

The Japanese angels pair is going to lose again. *sigh*

[ctjcad]

where is 'kemana' ? is she still sleeping ? :)

taufik is playing now... somebody, wake her up :)
i think she was awake..but she doesn't want to watch...too tense, not for the weak of heart..;):p:)

[ye333]

But he will be banned after the WC? So no chance for the Asian games.

anyway, I think he lost because he is not fit enough. He cannot speed up at crucial moments. CH played wonderfully in the 2nd and 3rd sets.


He already said earlier this week his goal was to win the Asian Games gold, so there's your excuse

[madbad]

I think all INA fans had "heart attack" tonight:D :D

[pramilainc]

Oh no... they are starting MAS/CHN WD on TV Court... I wanna watch DEN/KOR MD instead :(

[ye333]

Du/Yu's playing style is extremely ugly. No moving opponents around or delicate placements. Just smash and smash. They have no chance to reach the level of Gao/Huang.


The Japanese angels pair is going to lose again. *sigh*

[madbad]

But he will be banned after the WC? So no chance for the Asian games.

anyway, I think he lost because he is not fit enough. He cannot speed up at crucial moments. CH played wonderfully in the 2nd and 3rd sets.

We all knew that if CH managed to drag TH into the 3rd set, a degree of parity would set in. And in the end, TH's lack of stamina was his undoing. This is the beest CH has played under the 21 point system. Mind you he could face problems against faster players.

[madbad]

Du/Yu's playing style is extremely ugly. No moving opponents around or delicate placements. Just smash and smash. They have no chance to reach the level of Gao/Huang.

I guess as long as you get the job done, style points don't count.

[madbad]

CHN 21-11 JAP (demolished)
CHN 4-5 MAS
JAP 19-19 ENG in MD, close fight

[emms626]

anybody tell me 2molo md pair vs which pair

[doublewings]

I guess as long as you get the job done, style points don't count.

Too bad points are not awarded to pretty faces either. ;)

[ctjcad]

hopeless Sony

he got too much injury :sad:
needed changed the coach, please no more "trial and error" method by inexperienced coach in Pelatnas (Joko Supriyanto, Hendrawan) :rolleyes:
..Sony, i'm afraid, IMO, has reached his peak potential...he can try a new coach again, but he seemed to just not have it in his mind..:rolleyes: :p

[2cents]

Why Zhang Ning vs Wong MC is the last one? The last one and first one should be reserved for players playing two events. Such as Xie ZB, Zhang YW, so they can get enough rest. Whie Zhang Ning is the number 1 MS, she should not play when all the spectators are already gone.

[madbad]

Too bad points are not awarded to pretty faces either. ;)
hehe, there would be a spate of new world champions :p

[ye333]

I think it depends on the goal of the players. Do you want to be a great player, or just the player grabbing many titles or something. Li/Tian have as many WC titles as Park/Kim, but people remember Park/Kim much more than Li/Tian. There is a reason.

The current Chinese system is destroying the possibility of producing great players. i don't understand why Tian Bingyi, who has produced Ge/Gu -- having beautiful playing style and can win -- satisfies in producing hammering machines like Du/Yu.


I guess as long as you get the job done, style points don't count.

[madbad]

Chn 12-8 Jap
Chn 17-14 Mas

[ccskaki]

Du/Yu's playing style is extremely ugly. No moving opponents around or delicate placements. Just smash and smash. They have no chance to reach the level of Gao/Huang.

Well, Du/Yu's style has a lot to do with their character. You watch them and you listen to them, they are just like two boys in two girls' bodies. Tomboys. That's why they play like that: smash smash smash. For delicate placements, we might have to wait until they grow more mature and smart on the court.

[madbad]

I think it depends on the goal of the players. Do you want to be a great player, or just the player grabbing many titles or something. Li/Tian have as many WC titles as Park/Kim, but people remember Park/Kim much more than Li/Tian. There is a reason.

The current Chinese system is destroying the possibility of producing great players. i don't understand why Tian Bingyi, who has produced Ge/Gu -- having beautiful playing style and can win -- satisfies in producing hammering machines like Du/Yu.

I guess with the new scoring system, which does not allow for mistakes, chokes the creativity of the game. Stronger and faster seems to be the name of the game in order to win, especially in doubles. Shame really, but the rule changes seem to have dictated a shift in style.

[ctjcad]

If taufik bothers to move faster, he will win. Chen is playing ok but Taufik is getting winners from the backline while Chen isn't.

anyways back to match
..saw the match...Taufik was just too slow; seemed like 2 steps slow, esp. in the 3rd set...well, that's the result of him not preparing and training hard for this WC...But after his title last yr, i can understand...:rolleyes: :p ;)

[yannie]

quite surprised taufik lost, kemana must be heartbroken! =/

never thought chen jin would fight so hard to beat kuan beng hong. kbh has improved? anyway, good job by kbh... i can't watch on tv =(

fairuz/lin won! faint! fairuz/lin and kkk/wpt will probably make ccm proud, since lww/ctf are out... (so early)

[madbad]

Well, Du/Yu's style has a lot to do with their character. You watch them and you listen to them, they are just like two boys in two girls' bodies. Tomboys. That's why they play like that: smash smash smash. For delicate placements, we might have to wait until they grow more mature and smart on the court.

That's a good observation, the pair are very boy-ish

[ye333]

Well, I think even Ha Taekwon's or Cheah Soonkit's style looks better than Du/Yu's... Ha and Cheah are boys, right? :D


Well, Du/Yu's style has a lot to do with their character. You watch them and you listen to them, they are just like two boys in two girls' bodies. Tomboys. That's why they play like that: smash smash smash. For delicate placements, we might have to wait until they grow more mature and smart on the court.

[madbad]

Du/Yu wrap it up 21-13
MAS up 6-2 v CHN

[ye333]

Du/Yu played like that long before the 21 points system. Hehe. :)

I guess with the new scoring system, which does not allow for mistakes, chokes the creativity of the game. Stronger and faster seems to be the name of the game in order to win, especially in doubles. Shame really, but the rule changes seem to have dictated a shift in style.

[madbad]

quite surprised taufik lost, kemana must be heartbroken! =/

never thought chen jin would fight so hard to beat kuan beng hong. kbh has improved? anyway, good job by kbh... i can't watch on tv =(

fairuz/lin won! faint! fairuz/lin and kkk/wpt will probably make ccm proud, since lww/ctf are out... (so early)
Hehe, you must have had a few nervous moments with your beloved CJ coming so close with being shown the exit. I know you like KBH too so you were in a win-win situation :)

[madbad]

Du/Yu played like that long before the 21 points system. Hehe. :)
Can they request a transfer to MD:p :p :p

[madbad]

Our JR in on court! JR/LP 4-2 KOR
MAS 12-6 CHN WD 2nd game

[hcpoirot]

To sum it quickly.

Lots of suprises or nearly a suprise in R16 today considering not all player or pairs participate in WC 2006.

In WS, Petra beat Wang Chen in 3 games. WC seem under performed lately. Is age catching up to her now? Losing to Tine in HK Open and now even Petra?

Susan Hughes almost upasetting Petya after yesterday good performance eliminated Hwang Hwe Youn.

From MD, not a big suprise when Hendra/Markis won over Choong/Lee. But CTF/LWW lost tamely in second set.

Sofar not any suprise from WD.

From MS.

KBH almost so closed eliminated CJ who favour to roll at least into SF. At least malaysia fans can smile knowing that at least KBH still had it.

And of course a heart break for all Taufik hardcore fans when he lost to CH.

The most upsetting result is when Nova/Lily lost to KKK, WPT in 3 very very closed sets.

[ccskaki]

Speaking of boyish looking girls, I'm sorry to say this: why are Malaysian women doubles players always so...i mean...they don't look like girls. They walk like boys, hair not properly kept, not feminine body. I don't know how to describe. Especially their fluffy hair and fluffy shirts. I mean, hey you're on camera and you're supposed to be a lady...

[ye333]

Wang Chen is too old. I think she just can't keep the form training in HK. She was already sooooo slow in last years' ABC.


To sum it quickly.

Lots of suprises or nearly a suprise in R16 today considering not all player or pairs participate in WC 2006.

In WS, Petra beat Wang Chen in 3 games. WC seem under performed lately. Is age catching up to her now? Losing to Tine in HK Open and now even Petra?

Susan Hughes almost upasetting Petya after yesterday good performance eliminated Hwang Hwe Youn.

From MD, not a big suprise when Hendra/Markis won over Choong/Lee. But CTF/LWW lost tamely in second set.

Sofar not any suprise from WD.

From MS.

KBH almost so closed eliminated CJ who favour to roll at least into SF. At least malaysia fans can smile knowing that at least KBH still had it.

And of course a heart break for all Taufik hardcore fans when he lost to CH.

The most upsetting result is when Nova/Lily lost to KKK, WPT in 3 very very closed sets.

[ctjcad]

TH edges ahead 13-12. Unforced errors TH 21, CH 24 :eek:

Taufik-Chen Hong's match is a slow counting machine which works perfectly now.

OMG, even he passes CH today...

It doesn't seem he will be able to take others as the the tournament goes, there will be harder opponnent.
..unforced errors, esp. that many, indicate player(s) is/are usually losing awareness and most likely getting tired...They were basically taking their time esp. towards nearing the end of the 3rd set..
The stats, at least to me, indicate that both are abt in the same "fitness" level...And like i mentioned earlier in my other posts, i'm afraid even if either TH wins, he will not have much left gas in the tank for tomorrow's or later match(es)..And i'm afraid it could be also true for CH..:rolleyes: :p

[kemana]

quite surprised taufik lost, kemana must be heartbroken! =/

haha,yes,kinda:) But this is an opportunity for him to realize his problem,hope he will learn some lesson :) and come back like after 05 Sudiman Cup:)

[ronk]

hehe, there would be a spate of new world champions :p


As long as XXF defends her WS successfully, new champions are good.

[badMania]

The Malaysian WD pair is hanging on...and seems determined to win the second set, currently on a set point, 20-19.

Zhang Yawen might as well give this game up :cool:

[madbad]

..unforced errors, esp. that many, indicate player(s) is/are usually losing awareness and most likely getting tired...They were basically taking their time esp. towards nearing the end of the 3rd set..
The stats, at least to me, indicate that both are abt in the same "fitness" level...But i'm afraid even if either CH or TH wins, they will not have much left gas in the tank for tomorrow's match..:rolleyes: :p
Could be a draft problem too?
I bet CH is totally exhausted; you're right might not have much left for tomorrow

[madbad]

MAS girls win 21-19. Will they have enough left for 3rd game?
First game lost by CHN WD pair this round. All others were straight set wins

[badMania]

Wong/Chin push the Chinese pair to a rubber-set...very good. Can they actually beat Wei/Zhang...who is probably the weakest of the four?

[badMania]

The Jap pair is also fighting hard, currently leading 13-12.
Paaske/Rasmussen edge ahead in the closing stage of the first set, leading 17-16.

[**KZ**]

i really hope they beat zhang/wei...or else CHN gonna take all 4 spots on the podium

[madbad]

Meanwhile...
DEN 18-17 KOR
JAP 13-13 ENG (rubber)
CHN 5-2 MAS
JR/LP won 21-18

[badMania]

I would prefer Kido/Hendra to meet the Jap pair since INA MD pairs have lost several times to English pair this year :cool: In fact, Clark/Blair have beaten Kido/Hendra in the opening round of the All England this year. So, I am lending my support to the Jap pair in the closing stage....gambate....

[junky]

Speaking of boyish looking girls, I'm sorry to say this: why are Malaysian women doubles players always so...i mean...they don't look like girls. They walk like boys, hair not properly kept, not feminine body. I don't know how to describe. Especially their fluffy hair and fluffy shirts. I mean, hey you're on camera and you're supposed to be a lady...

i think WMC is the only malaysian players who is much more good looking...she's quite cute i feel...

[Han]

I think it will be hard for Wong, she will be too tire after playing rubber set on both XD and now WD.

[ronk]

How are the cutie Japanese WD pair doing?

[ye333]

Cheah Soonkit has done great job. Suddenly MAS WD becomes a real opponent of Chinese WD. Big surprise! btw, Wong/Chin has fabulous defense, great placements. Really enjoyable to watch.


Wong/Chin push the Chinese pair to a rubber-set...very
good. Can they actually beat Wei/Zhang...who is probably the weakest of the four?

[ye333]

Relentlessly beaten to death by Du/Yu. :D

How are the cutie Japanese WD pair doing?

[badMania]

Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen take the first set 21-18.
The Chinese pair is taking the initiative in the third set, leading 9-4.

Clark/Blair also nudge in front, leading 17-14.

[madbad]

CHN comfortably ahead 10-4
ENG 17-14 JAP

[ctjcad]

MS line up tomorrow. Very scary. 4 China players. How wonderul if all 4 non china players were to win

BCL v LCW
CJ V LHL
CH V PG
LD V HH
..from the looks of things, i have a sense it will be:
LCW(wouldn't be surprised also if BCL makes it-50-50) vs. LHL in the Semis and
PG vs. LD in the other Semis...Gade will win because CH has used up most of his gas..

and my early sense says LCW or BCL vs. PG in the Final...wow, what a classic that will be...:p ;) :) :cool:

[madbad]

Close one JAP 16-18 ENG
DEN 4-4 KOR
CHN 11-6 MAS at the interval. MAS girls out of gas?

[badMania]

11-6 to the Chinese pair at the interval and it's still nail-biting between the English and Jap pair. The Jap pair trails 17-18.

[kwun]

two reigning world champions fell today. both are from indonesia. this is a sad day for Indonesia badminton. i had pretty high hopes for Nova/Lilyana. :(

[madbad]

match point for ENG 20-18
MAS still fighting 10-13

... ENG wins 21-18

[ctjcad]

With CH win today?

Does it mean that LD will seal for the WC MS champion for sure?
...i'll say NO...unless there's some unfortunate mishaps/injuries to the remaining players(hopefully there won't be)...;)

[jgao_net]

england's not doing so bad this year.

they just beat the japanese pair in MD

[EastDevil]

I wonder what Taufik excused this time after lost to Chen Hong in R16 despite:

1. He had better record against Chen Hong 7-1 before this match.
2. Chen Hong didn’t play so well with this new scoring system.

Will Taufik:

A. Again blame the line judgement treat him poorly like HK Open?
B. Tell another excuses that he didn’t train 100% to enter the WC?
C. Tell that he didn’t motivated enough cause he already won the WC title last year?
D. Or That he can’t concentrate cause IBF will give him punishment later after WC over?

Time for PBSI and Taufik to face the reality. If they and him want to become number one again in MS, train harder and less talk

Taufik should at least do better than QF in this WC after all his walkout action in HK Open QF. Not to mention his coach boasting that he can beat Lin Dan if they play in fair tournament. Looks like he and his coach. can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk.

Don't worry, Taufik is very experienced in coming up with some lame excuses. If not, his diehard fans will make some up for him. There's always the "See you in the NEXT world championshps!" and the next and the next.
:D

[badMania]

The English pair Anthony Clark/Robert Blair finally won the match 19-21, 21-13, 21-18. Let's hope Kido/Hendra can do the job tomorrow.

The Chinese pair is running away with the match, leading 18-11.

[madbad]

End of the road for the MAS pair 21-13. WD... BORING!
JR/LP up 13-7

[ccskaki]

The Koreans MD are loosing too quickly. Damn I'm hoping that they'll at least take 1 set from the Danes. The Danes are already quite old, stretching them to 3 sets will be good for their next opponent. Damn.

[ye333]

I wonder whether Taufik will retire if he is banned 6 month? What's the point staying in the circuit anyway. He is not motivated anymore.


Don't worry, Taufik is very experienced in coming up with some lame excuses. If not, his diehard fans will make some up for him. There's always the "See you in the NEXT world championshps!" and the next and the next.
:D

[hcpoirot]

Wow JR/LP are back! They are leading now against LYD/JJS with 21-18,13-7. Could there be another fall seeded pair?

I think so. :)

[kwun]

End of the road for the MAS pair 21-13. WD... BORING!
JR/LP up 13-7

go JR/LP!!!!!!!!

i am entertaining the possibility of 2 Danish WC this year. MD and MS... ;)

[badMania]

two reigning world champions fell today. both are from indonesia. this is a sad day for Indonesia badminton. i had pretty high hopes for Nova/Lilyana. :(

I am disappointed with Nova/Butet's loss...but not so for Taufik as I don't have much expectation in him.

However, Kido/Hendra have given some hopes for INA. Let's hope they continue to do so in the next 3 matches. They should be the favorite in tomorrow's match against Anthony Clark/Robert Blair, esp after the English was pushed to rubber-sets today. From semi-final onwards, it will have to depend on mental attitude and some kinda luck (like today :D)

[ye333]

Anyone watching this game? Is JR/LP back in their 2003 form?


The Koreans MD are loosing too quickly. Damn I'm hoping that they'll at least take 1 set from the Danes. The Danes are already quite old, stretching them to 3 sets will be good for their next opponent. Damn.

[Han]

Is Miew Choo now, ... NOt sure what to expect :confused:

[kwun]

I wonder whether Taufik will retire if he is banned 6 month? What's the point staying in the circuit anyway. He is not motivated anymore.
you know they say things goes downhill once you get married... ;)

[**KZ**]

CEH/WPT were so close....yet they blew it with tons of mistakes in the last game

[kwun]

Is Miew Choo now, ... NOt sure what to expect :confused:

with all due respects, don't expect too much... it is Zhang Ning on the other side of the net afterall...

[Han]

And what happen to the Koreans, pretty dissappointed WC debut

[badMania]

The Koreans are only superior against Malaysians....but even this pair has lost to Kido/Hendra twice this year! The same goes for Mohd Tazari/Lin and Paaske/Rasmussen. So, Kido/Hendra do have the chance to go all the way to the Final.

[ctjcad]

One last thing, for those TH fans of you out there, please, no more excuses!
:) ..hehe, i hope we don't hear anymore from "1 very die-hard Taufik fan"..;):D

[madbad]

Yesss, JR/LP wiping the floor with the KOR pair 19-10. Looks like a date with the young, explosive MAS pair in the QF

[Morten]

if JR/LP are motivated they are among the top 3 inthe world imo. This is due to a lot of things. Jonas is very sharp at the net and if hes motivated he gains that extra which makes his trick shots sharper and lessens his unforced errors. Lars is more an allround player that plays the easy shots and is the stable guy where Jonas is the one who makes the surprises on the front of the court. A very dangerous cocktail :cool:

[kwun]

Yesss, JR/LP wiping the floor with the KOR pair 19-10. Looks like a date with the young, explosive MAS pair in the QF

i always support JONAS!!!!!

[madbad]

CEH/WPT were so close....yet they blew it with tons of mistakes in the last game
Well, WPT played tight 3 sets of XD and must have been knackered.

[pramilainc]

I sense a all danish MD final...

[ronk]

Relentlessly beaten to death by Du/Yu. :D
So so sad. Cuties lost to tomboys.

[badMania]

And what happen to the Koreans, pretty dissappointed WC debut

The same curse that befall on Choong/Lee earlier on...losing in a close first set and then faltered big time in the second set. Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen have won it 21-18, 21-11.

[madbad]

WE always support JONAS!!!!!

The boys win 21-18, 21-11. That was easy!

[pramilainc]

Sadly its not on TV court. That got girls girls playing with each other...

Anyone watching this game? Is JR/LP back in their 2003 form?

[madbad]

So so sad. Cuties lost to tomboys.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. good one:D

[ccskaki]

if JR/LP are motivated they are among the top 3 inthe world imo. This is due to a lot of things. Jonas is very sharp at the net and if hes motivated he gains that extra which makes his trick shots sharper and lessens his unforced errors. Lars is more an allround player that plays the easy shots and is the stable guy where Jonas is the one who makes the surprises on the front of the court. A very dangerous cocktail :cool:

Yeah but when Lars is loosing, he tends to make unforced errors in quick successions, consecutively. He's a stable guy only when he's winning.

[badMania]

:) ..hehe, i hope we don't hear anymore from "1 very die-hard Taufik fan"..;):D

Indra is nowhere to be seen :D

I am actually glad that Taufik lost today....was watching Kido/Hendra earlier on...then switched to watch Alias...before tuning back to watch Taufik again after Alias has ended :D

I am not motivated to watch him play...the same was as Taufik was not even motivated to win today. You can see the fire in Chen Hong's eyes and body language...but Taufik was just getting on with the match...not even any excitement when he won a crucial point :cool:

[rhinovinda]

oooo...very sad to hear TH and N/L lost!!!. Congrats to the winner of today.

[ye333]

Ya... JR is so D*** fast and creative in 2003. Pity JR/LP quickly faded out. Hope they can regain their form this time. That would make things interesting.


if JR/LP are motivated they are among the top 3 inthe world imo. This is due to a lot of things. Jonas is very sharp at the net and if hes motivated he gains that extra which makes his trick shots sharper and lessens his unforced errors. Lars is more an allround player that plays the easy shots and is the stable guy where Jonas is the one who makes the surprises on the front of the court. A very dangerous cocktail :cool:

[madbad]

Last game of the evening. ZN 6-3 WMC. I wonder if ZN's bored:rolleyes:

[badMania]

If the 2 sole hopes INA have play the matches of their life for the next 2 days (esp Luluk/Alvent), we could well see an all-INA Final in MD!

[ronk]

So MAS WPT/CEH lost in WD. That is good in a way because it will allow WPT to concentrate in XD. WPT/CEH have 0 change to go all the way in WD, but KKK/WPT has a chance to go all the way in XD.

[ccskaki]

but Taufik was just getting on with the match...not even any excitement when he won a crucial point :cool:

Yeah but when have you ever seen an excited Taufik on court? He has always been like that, whether he is motivated or not, he "looks" lazy/relaxed on court.

[ccskaki]

Oh my lovely lady Zhang Ning is playing. True lady.

[madbad]

ZN 11-7 WMC. WMC has won ALL her points from ZN unforced errors! ZN has won 9 of her 11 points from MC unforced errors!

[Malaysianfan]

ZN 11-7 WMC. WMC has won ALL her points from ZN unforced errors! ZN has won 9 of her 11 points from MC unforced errors!

I think the draft is affecting their game.

[ccskaki]

ZN 11-7 WMC. WMC has won ALL her points from ZN unforced errors! ZN has won 9 of her 11 points from MC unforced errors!

Well I don't think they (the persons doing the statistics) actually know what is an "unforced" error.

[EastDevil]

Well I know that the only country that can count their number of Chinese sportsmen/women imports by the dozen is Singapore.

NBA only had 3 Chinese players at most at one time.

Exactly my point, 3 chinese NBA players is not really importing. :D

[ccskaki]

Ok please tell me who are doing the commentating for this game on CCTV5? The one with the softer voice is clearly lacking in communication skills: monotonous tone throughout! And he rarely speaks 3 sentences in a row! The other more experienced commentator is always trying to prompt him to speak more.

[madbad]

ZN 17-11 WMC. Finally a point won on merit (smash). Stats still show all WMC 11 points won on unforced errors. Bizarre

ZN cleaned WMC's clock in the 1st game 21-13. Somebody watching the match, what's this unforced error crap that's showing up in the stats?

[ctjcad]

I wonder what Taufik excused this time after lost to Chen Hong in R16 despite:

1. He had better record against Chen Hong 7-1 before this match.
2. Chen Hong didn’t play so well with this new scoring system.

Will Taufik:

A. Again blame the line judgement treat him poorly like HK Open?
B. Tell another excuses that he didn’t train 100% to enter the WC?
C. Tell that he didn’t motivated enough cause he already won the WC title last year?
D. Or That he can’t concentrate cause IBF will give him punishment later after WC over?

Time for PBSI and Taufik to face the reality. If they and him want to become number one again in MS, train harder and less talk

Taufik should at least do better than QF in this WC after all his walkout action in HK Open QF. Not to mention his coach boasting that he can beat Lin Dan if they play in fair tournament. Looks like he and his coach. can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk.
I'm on the same boat with you, what will Taufik, his coach and PBSI will say after this??..oh wait, his coach already mentioned in some interview something like "he's afraid Taufik does not have that hunger anymore cos he won the Olympics and World Championships already"...:rolleyes:
..so, he's supposed "promised" or "talk" during this past TC/UC of how in order to prove "who's the better player between him and LinDan" won't be fulfilled after all...?!?!..after all these, would you guys now consider Taufik's comments as "for real" or just "talks"...oh well..:rolleyes: :p

[ctjcad]

Indra is nowhere to be seen :D
indra will probably be taking a week of vacation after this... ;) :)

I am not motivated to watch him play...the same was as Taufik was not even motivated to win today. You can see the fire in Chen Hong's eyes and body language...but Taufik was just getting on with the match...not even any excitement when he won a crucial point:cool:
..Taufik should've just stayed home in Indonesia...rather than "waste" PBSI's money to come here and exited quite early..:rolleyes: .no fight, no hunger, no desire..:p:rolleyes: :o

[madbad]

ZN 2-3 WMC. Ye Gods! WMC has 1 net winner and 1 clear winner

[other]

oooo....
the shuttle stood on the net :cool:

[ctjcad]

If the 2 sole hopes INA have play the matches of their life for the next 2 days (esp Luluk/Alvent), we could well see an all-INA Final in MD!
..hmm, that's a good wish, but i doubt it'll happen...If one of them can reach the Semis, that is already a pretty good achievement for them...Getting into the Final will be speechless...Winning the title will be a godsend..:rolleyes: ;) :D

[madbad]

WMC fighting hard but can't catch up 10-12 ZN

[virusvoodoo]

indra will probably be taking a week of vacation after this... ;) :)

..Taufik should've just stayed home in Indonesia...rather than "waste" PBSI's money to come here and exited quite early..:rolleyes: .no fight, no hunger, no desire..:p:rolleyes: :o

I'm partly sad that a world-class player such as lost early in the tournament but glad that this happens as it serves as a reality check for those die-hard fans of Taufik who have been too boastful about his ability.

[Viper2005]

Looks like all but one China Team made it thru to next round.
Hope we don't end up with all china players in MS semi....Bao vs Chen Jin and Chen Hong vs Lin Dan....:eek:

WS, of course Zhang Ning vs Xie Xing Fang.

WD already all China team semi.

XD, Hope Zhang/Gao or Xie/Zhang will make it to the final against Koo/Wong, they are on fire, defeating the number 1 seed.

MD....anything can happen...Fu/Cai have a very good chance.

[ctjcad]

He already said earlier this week his goal was to win the Asian Games gold, so there's your excuse
..nah, don't believe his "talks"...hehe, if i was Taufik, i would've made the excuse of winning the All-England next yr as his goal...Asian Games is getting close already and he's already won it before....AE is a "safer" bet...hehe:p ;)

[ctjcad]

We all knew that if CH managed to drag TH into the 3rd set, a degree of parity would set in. And in the end, TH's lack of stamina was his undoing. This is the beest CH has played under the 21 point system. Mind you he could face problems against faster players.
...as mentioned here also http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36327&page=23 (post #398)..:p ;)

[hcpoirot]

Thats always PBSI problem. Sending their best hope players who can save their face in crucial times even when Taufik do a walkout in HK open.

They better send Simon and Sonny. Specially for Simon to gain experience and confidence.

Last year, we grab 2 and half title here. But this year?

We only had 2 QF in MD. IT will be very good if one of those MD march to final and will be pretty amazing if one of them grab the title considering the competition.

[ctjcad]

Could be a draft problem too?
I bet CH is totally exhausted; you're right might not have much left for tomorrow
hmm, no, i don't think so...this was their 3rd match already and they should know the court condition...it was a "fitness" test for both players..;)

[ctjcad]

two reigning world champions fell today. both are from indonesia. this is a sad day for Indonesia badminton. i had pretty high hopes for Nova/Lilyana. :(
..kwun, luck was on their side last yr...not this yr though..;)..It's ok, the only thing they fail was to defend their title/repeat as champions ...they can try again next time...

[ctjcad]

Wow JR/LP are back! They are leading now against LYD/JJS with 21-18,13-7. Could there be another fall seeded pair?

I think so. :)

go JR/LP!!!!!!!!

i am entertaining the possibility of 2 Danish WC this year. MD and MS...

Anyone watching this game? Is JR/LP back in their 2003 form?
..hmm, if i'm not mistaken, i've made a "semi-prediction" in the "Who's going to win the MD title" thread, that JR/LP(or a European pair) could win it again.:D Actually they were my favorites. JR/LP have done it before and now added by playing in their "own backyard"...;) :rolleyes: :cool:

[ctjcad]

I am disappointed with Nova/Butet's loss...but not so for Taufik as I don't have much expectation in him.

However, Kido/Hendra have given some hopes for INA. Let's hope they continue to do so in the next 3 matches. They should be the favorite in tomorrow's match against Anthony Clark/Robert Blair, esp after the English was pushed to rubber-sets today. From semi-final onwards, it will have to depend on mental attitude and some kinda luck (like today :D)
..IMO, from now on, it's all mental and mind...Again, personally, i still have my doubts on them, since they are still young and this is their first time ever playing in WC...but we shall wait and see...;)
Nova/Lilyana and Taufik losing weren't really a surprise to me. Repeating as champions is very2 hard...
The surprise so far, at least for me, is the progress of Luluk/Alvent. And they've done it quietly, almost un-noticeable...:rolleyes: ;) :)

[ctjcad]

Ya... JR is so D*** fast and creative in 2003. Pity JR/LP quickly faded out. Hope they can regain their form this time. That would make things interesting.
Hmm, speaking of JR/LP, i don't know much abt MD history, but if JR/LP were to win the title this yr, will that make them the OLDEST ever MD pair to grab the title??..anyone knows??..:confused: :rolleyes:

[ctjcad]

& after meeting with IBF, what's next for him?...
..sure he didn't caused anymore walk-over or incidents, but IMO, after all this, he should've just stayed home in Indo...The worst part of this is, in 2 days time, IBF will meet with him and who knows what they will do to him. As announced before, IBF will meet for another "meeting" and decide on some sort of "ban" action against Taufik. I don't know if the fact that the decision was coming, affected Taufik's play today, but he sure didn't have the "fire" within him; which ironically he mentioned he "felt good" the previous day.
So, imagine, for Taufik to travel half-way across the globe, only to be shown the exit sign in the R16 and later will be meeting with the IBF brass for a disciplinary actions. Boy, that doesn't look very enjoyable at all.:p

As far as him promising earlier that the Asian Games will be his goal for this yr etc2, hmm, i still have my doubts. He's won it before and if he'll indeed gets some kind of a "ban" from IBF, how will that affect his mindset to prepare for the AG??..:rolleyes:

For now, if he gets the supposed "ban", i think the best thing for Taufik to do is to go back home and just forget abt badminton for a while. Yes, even forget abt the Asian Games. If i were him, and if the "ban" is handed down & won't be too severe, i will only try and focus on the All-England next yr. If it's too "severe", he can appeal to play next yr in AE. If he's able to play in it and win, then i think he should just call it a career...And let PBSI bring up & invest more in the new younger players to the forefront..

[ye333]

I am not sure about this... but I am sure if E/L grab the title they would be the oldest champion. :D

Hmm, speaking of JR/LP, i don't know much abt MD history, but if JR/LP were to win the title this yr, will that make them the OLDEST ever MD pair to grab the title??..anyone knows??..:confused: :rolleyes: