View Full Version : WC2007, what changes would you like to see?


chibe_K
09-25-2006, 03:27 PM
My wish-list are the following:

1. TV live broadcast from round 1. !!!
2. No bad calls
3. More surprises, like what England team did this year.
4. LCW vs LD in the finals
5. One country other than China in the womens finals.
6. Full-house every night at the stadium.

DinkAlot
09-25-2006, 03:34 PM
My wish-list are the following:

1. TV live broadcast from round 1. !!!
2. No bad calls
3. More surprises, like what England team did this year.
4. LCW vs LD in the finals
5. One country other than China in the womens finals.
6. Full-house every night at the stadium.

Whether or not your wish is possible:

1. Possible.
2. Not possible. :p
3. Possible but not probable.
4. Possible but not probable due to a person name "Chen Jin". :D
5. Extremely, very remotely possible but not at all probable.
6. Possible but not probable.

ctjcad
09-25-2006, 03:38 PM
My wish-list are the following:

1. TV live broadcast from round 1. !!!
2. No bad calls
3. More surprises, like what England team did this year.
4. LCW vs LD in the finals
5. One country other than China in the womens finals.
6. Full-house every night at the stadium.
..hmm, the first one might "sound off the wall", but how abt...

7. I want to see Zhou Mi plays and competes for Malaysia. And by doing so, hopefully she can reach the Final & she'll win over (most likely) a CHN player, in front of her "new" country. And in front of LiYongBo...:rolleyes: ;) :) :cool:

8. Tony and Candra compete for 1 last time together..:rolleyes::p

(btw, mods might possibly join this thread in the WC 2007 subforum)??..:confused:

DinkAlot
09-25-2006, 03:44 PM
Wish List:

1. Control the drift/wind inside the stadium

2. Fu/Cai take the MD Title, again.

3. Chen Jin takes the MS Title (one of many to come).

4. Taufik participates.

5. Full Time Radar Gun that shows the speed of every shuttle exchange and then posts the speed (after the point is over, in order of velocity and then flash) on the big screen, "Fastest Shot: 340kph!"

6. Gillian Clark.

7. Tony Gunawan and Kim Dong Moon team up. :p

madbad
09-25-2006, 03:57 PM
Wish list is most of what y'll have already mention plus:
1) extra training for match officials especially line judges prior to tournament
2) new and innovative TV angles/graphics
3) breakthrough for a Euro-born female singles player, who can win in a hostile, foreign environment (are MAS fans hostile?:) )
4) new world record for smash speed!!!:D

chikkubhai
09-25-2006, 04:47 PM
Just get good referees and lines man should have played and must be playing badminton for the last 3 years regularly... For some reason they get crappy people to judge at international games???? and lastly some good crowd man... some booin clappin or cheerin whatever theres a need to vest more interest...

george333
09-25-2006, 04:50 PM
Yeah the corwd was like dead, not literally, but it was kind of boring.

ctjcad
09-25-2006, 04:53 PM
Just get good referees and lines man should have played and must be playing badminton for the last 3 years regularly... For some reason they get crappy people to judge at international games???? and lastly some good crowd man... some booin clappin or cheerin whatever theres a need to vest more interest...
..i'm sure this will happen in next yr's WC..As witnessed in last yr's S'pore Open(Gosh, i really love that atmosphere last yr)...I'll be quite surprised if the crowds are not into the matches and there are no balloon clappers and drummers...Oh my, i can imagine it already..:rolleyes: :D :cool:

Baderz_Jas
09-25-2006, 05:26 PM
1. China take all 5 titles (LD, Fu/Cai and Zhang/Gao especially):D ~ sorry ~ :D
2. Fu breaking world record (it could be broken by someone before next year)
3. Better atmosphere created by the crowd (i'm sure it will) :D
4. More camera angles/replays ;)
5. :confused: ??? :confused: No dancing between matches on Finals Day :D

That's my wish-list for Santa :D

Qidong
09-25-2006, 06:05 PM
1. Back to the 15 pt systems. :D

2. LYB wants to dominate XD also - team up XXF/LD.

3. Ban verbal abuse including from coaches.

jgao_net
09-25-2006, 06:39 PM
[quote=Qidong]1. Back to the 15 pt systems. :D

/quote]

i want them to change it too :crying:

DinkAlot
09-25-2006, 07:53 PM
1. Back to the 15 pt systems. :D

Ohhhhhhh yes! This is the most important one.

kemana
09-25-2006, 08:33 PM
Ohhhhhhh yes! This is the most important one.
Hehe, i prefer 15 too

2cents
09-25-2006, 08:41 PM
There are basically two kinds of systems: one is the stable system, the other is the un-stable system.

The stable system is such a system, when there is a fluctuation, the system will return back to its original state, such as a ball inside a bowl.

The unstable system will be further away from its original state if there is a fluctuation, such as a ball in the top of the hill. The instability will have a increasing growth rate, so that the unstable system cannot controlled.

The old 15pt system is unstable, one is the points for serving, the other is the winner to serve. Imaging if one guy is extremely good at serving, but cannot return any serve. He still can win easily and very quickly if he serves first. He can also lose badly and very quickly if the other player serves first. So the final results will be largely depend on the initial state. If players are good at returning serves better than serving. Then the match will be lasting forever. So in a word, both the playing time and playing results are not controllable, and unfair to each players.

The current 21 point system is a stable system for playing time, because it lets every play count. But it is still unstable for the results because the winner serves forever. As in the 15 pt system, it is typical that one player can win 10 points continuously.

So I suggest in 21 pt system, one player serves 5 times, then switches to the other. After 20:20, one can serve only 1 or 2 times. That will prevent instability grow without limit.

But some people like instability, because it is more unpredictable, then you can use 15 pt system or create your own even more unstable systems.

hcyong
09-25-2006, 11:29 PM
There are basically two kinds of systems: one is the stable system, the other is the un-stable system.

The stable system is such a system, when there is a fluctuation, the system will return back to its original state, such as a ball inside a bowl.

The unstable system will be further away from its original state if there is a fluctuation, such as a ball in the top of the hill. The instability will have a increasing growth rate, so that the unstable system cannot controlled.

The old 15pt system is unstable, one is the points for serving, the other is the winner to serve. Imaging if one guy is extremely good at serving, but cannot return any serve. He still can win easily and very quickly if he serves first. He can also lose badly and very quickly if the other player serves first. So the final results will be largely depend on the initial state. If players are good at returning serves better than serving. Then the match will be lasting forever. So in a word, both the playing time and playing results are not controllable, and unfair to each players.

The current 21 point system is a stable system for playing time, because it lets every play count. But it is still unstable for the results because the winner serves forever. As in the 15 pt system, it is typical that one player can win 10 points continuously.

So I suggest in 21 pt system, one player serves 5 times, then switches to the other. After 20:20, one can serve only 1 or 2 times. That will prevent instability grow without limit.

But some people like instability, because it is more unpredictable, then you can use 15 pt system or create your own even more unstable systems.

Unlike tennis or to a lesser extend table-tennis, in badminton, there is no such thing as serving or receiving well. There is some disadvantage to serving in the doubles game, but it reflects volleyball much more than tennis. So no, I disagree with the serve-5-times idea. I think both the old and new systems are stable in badminton.

doublewings
09-25-2006, 11:48 PM
Cancel it and change it back to once every two years.

Simp84
09-26-2006, 12:41 AM
hire better translators!
I get goosebumps everytime I hear a lousy translator... LOL:D

X Ball
09-26-2006, 12:49 AM
Restrict the no. of players from each team to 2 players instead of the current 3. Too many games to play kill the drive of the players. LCW and PG have to face too many tough Chinese players (who get up into the last 32 and 16 easily) along the way.

red00ecstrat
09-26-2006, 02:23 AM
change it back to once every two years and back to the old scoring system too!

cao ci dan
09-26-2006, 02:28 AM
1. Back to the 15 pt systems. :D

2. LYB wants to dominate XD also - team up XXF/LD.

3. Ban verbal abuse including from coaches.
:D :D hey..i like this one!!!:rolleyes: mmm...what about WMC/LCW??:)

Baderz_Jas
09-26-2006, 07:26 AM
:D :D hey..i like this one!!!:)

I like that too!!! :D :D :D Then they can MS, WS and XD and become world's best badminton couple ever! :D :D :D

Shiryu
09-26-2006, 08:46 AM
I like that too!!! :D :D :D Then they can MS, WS and XD and become world's best badminton couple ever! :D :D :D

Neh.. XXF said herself in her blog that Lin Dan can't play doubles at all.
so I won't hold my breath on this one.:cool:

Y.TOBA
09-26-2006, 09:41 AM
1. TV live broadcast from round 1. !!!

i would like this

event
09-26-2006, 10:01 AM
1. China take all 5 titles
3. Better atmosphere created by the crowd (i'm sure it will)These two sound mutually exclusive. Who knows? Maybe Malaysian fans will derive some enjoyment out of the 5 all-Chinese finals we will be unlucky enough to have to bear if the present trend continues. If No. 1 doesn't happen, I think we can count on Malaysian fans to be really into the tournament.

One thing I'd like to see is no local line judges for matches involving Malaysian teams. Seeing all the whining this year by Taufik, Bao, and Sairul not to mention all we've seen in the past, I think it would help defuse accusations of bias. This is especially important since the Worlds have only been held in a nation with a strong badminton team once in the last 15 years and that was 7 years ago.

z3048018
09-26-2006, 10:08 AM
agree with most people:

1. bring back the WC from every year to 2 years; and

2. 15 point system please. the rally system is tense and causes (some) upsets, but the 15 points is more exciting for me.

3. have a universal channel dedicated to badminton regardless of where you live :rolleyes: (yeah, right!! wishful thinking:D )

Malaysianfan
09-26-2006, 10:11 AM
These two sound mutually exclusive. Who knows? Maybe Malaysian fans will derive some enjoyment out of the 5 all-Chinese finals we will be unlucky enough to have to bear if the present trend continues. If No. 1 doesn't happen, I think we can count on Malaysian fans to be really into the tournament.

One thing I'd like to see is no local line judges for matches involving Malaysian teams. Seeing all the whining this year by Taufik, Bao, and Sairul not to mention all we've seen in the past, I think it would help defuse accusations of bias. This is especially important since the Worlds have only been held in a nation with a strong badminton team once in the last 15 years and that was 7 years ago.

Don't worry. Even the line judges of Malaysia Open are not from Malaysia.

Cheung
09-26-2006, 10:21 AM
1. more noise by audience
2. better line judging
3. less trash talking by coaches
4. more emotions by players
5. better mental strength by players
6. more of it on TV

arice_MAS
09-26-2006, 10:25 AM
1.malaysia win most of the title

2.i want XD~LD/XXF + LCW/WMC (final)

3.back to 15 points system

4.refree n linemans be fair or just change it to video system

5.LYB not use his same n bad tactic again...so boring lar

6.same with everyone TV broadcast live from round one until final

Qidong
09-26-2006, 12:39 PM
1. ESPN (in US) broadcasts all the matches live.
2. Wild cards - set up a website to let the fans in the world pick from a list of players who don't qualify for the tournment.

Baderz_Jas
09-26-2006, 03:38 PM
Neh.. XXF said herself in her blog that Lin Dan can't play doubles at all.
so I won't hold my breath on this one.:cool:

Really? :( Doesn't matter :D They will defend their WC in KL and be the first badminton couple to win WC twice in a row :D :p

event
09-26-2006, 05:42 PM
Don't worry. Even the line judges of Malaysia Open are not from Malaysia.This is interesting. Where are they from, then? Is there an official policy about it?

chikkubhai
09-26-2006, 06:46 PM
Just get good referees and lines man should have played and must be playing badminton for the last 3 years regularly... For some reason they get crappy people to judge at international games???? and lastly some good crowd man... some booin clappin or cheerin whatever theres a need to vest more interest...

Uh oh the amazingly surprising wind or breeze effecton the 4-5 gm feather shuttle ... I thnk the event coordinators think it adds up as a special effect or what???:o

indra
09-26-2006, 07:59 PM
My wish-list are the following:

1. TV live broadcast from round 1. !!!
2. No bad calls
3. More surprises, like what England team did this year.
4. LCW vs LD in the finals
5. One country other than China in the womens finals.
6. Full-house every night at the stadium.

1. 15-point system
2. Instant video system
3. No Bye
4. When it reaches the semi final, a semi round robbin system shall apply...so the champion is really the real champion...
5. No volunteer especially linespeople, umpire, referee --> they MUST be treated professionally, which means they must get fees.

maa2003
09-27-2006, 04:20 AM
1. Back to the 15 pt systems. :D


1. That's the most important thing .......... (back to 15 points system)
2. European player can win MS and WS
3. Every double pair can choose their own partner and not necessary from same country.
4. No "Bye", so BWF should use their Wildcard as much as possible.

hara^kazuko
09-27-2006, 07:14 AM
Definitely not like what we had experienced before that.... 21 point scoring system would be okay with me if IBF had agreed on the electronic device thingy..

Malaysianfan
09-27-2006, 11:11 AM
This is interesting. Where are they from, then? Is there an official policy about it?

If i am not mistaken they are from Thailand.

Baderz_Jas
09-27-2006, 05:29 PM
3. No Bye

But if you don't have byes then there's no point of having seeds! ;)

DinkAlot
09-27-2006, 06:03 PM
But if you don't have byes then there's no point of having seeds! ;)

Sure there is still a point. If you don't have seeds and you just do a random draw, the top players could play each other in the 1st round. :p

indra
09-27-2006, 10:41 PM
Sure there is still a point. If you don't have seeds and you just do a random draw, the top players could play each other in the 1st round. :p

No Bye...No seeding...Better ...it will be a WILD fighting

DinkAlot
09-28-2006, 03:09 AM
No Bye...No seeding...Better ...it will be a WILD fighting

Disagree, then you could possibly have a Final where the top player plays a significantly lessor player and blow him out. Seedings are designed to match the best players to play in the Finals for the best game.

asphyxiate
09-28-2006, 10:58 AM
1. ESPN (in US) broadcasts all the matches live.


:eek: :eek: Are you kidding? Absolutely zero matches are broadcast in Canada. I only see matches that I download from this site. I ought to get satellite + ESPN :p.

Anyway, I'd like to see it back to once every two years as well, and they should get shot spot like tennis and then get rid of the line judges :p, but I know that would require massive amounts of money and time, but oh well, my wishful thinking.

quik_silver
09-28-2006, 12:00 PM
#1 Hoping to see LCW claims the title
#2 Fu/Cai defends their title
#3 15 point system
#4 Replay System (for hard line calls)

quik_silver
09-28-2006, 12:03 PM
5. No volunteer especially linespeople, umpire, referee --> they MUST be treated professionally, which means they must get fees.

What?!!? The linesmen/women, umpire, referee are volunteers!?!? That's not right... :eek:

event
09-28-2006, 06:15 PM
What?!!? The linesmen/women, umpire, referee are volunteers!?!? That's not right... :eek:Umpires and referees are professional, as far as I know. They are certified and trained and paid, not necessarily in that order. Line judges are volunteers at open tournaments and they get a little training session the day before the tournament starts. I only assume it is the same at the worlds.

Felicia_txh
09-30-2006, 03:08 AM
I hope lee chong wei wil in the final two.........

purpledoi
11-04-2006, 05:47 AM
1~Better commentors! At least those who can pronounce the players names properly. This year, Xie Xing Fang became Shay Shay Fang. A bit Hilarious..
2~The choice to watch it from either sides of the court
3~"TV" Courts to be abolished and broadcast ALL courts.
4~Proper Line Cameras and Unbias Net judges, Line judges, Judges and all.
5~Lots of people from different countries in the crowds. Then you wouldn't have to sit down and hear the crowd supporting one side only!!!

vivian kon
11-04-2006, 06:30 AM
:confused: can choong wei beat bao chun lai again!??

vivian kon
11-04-2006, 06:32 AM
lww n tcf getting worst this few months.. oh well.. old liaw.. havta retire! wondering wil they continue badminton next year?! :(

vivian kon
11-04-2006, 06:35 AM
jonassen ever be in rank 2??!! wow..
peter gade's daughter very cute! wil she join badminton lyk her dad??!!!

mmooww
12-25-2006, 10:38 PM
i m hoping a diff changes! hee... hope malaysia juniors will be playing..

MINN_EROSS
12-27-2006, 09:40 AM
Umpires and referees are professional, as far as I know. They are certified and trained and paid, not necessarily in that order. Line judges are volunteers at open tournaments and they get a little training session the day before the tournament starts. I only assume it is the same at the worlds.

yes..they are!! it is not like just putting someone like volunteers to be the ref n umpires! even in my university, we have to invite the pro umpire (outsiders) to be the umpires n line judge! wht more at the world stage!!

kevinwzy
12-31-2006, 11:12 PM
BACK TO 15 POINT ...man...havent get use to 21 points game....~~

kevinwzy
12-31-2006, 11:14 PM
lol..im playing for high school...we judge on our own...

cheeyf
01-28-2007, 10:12 AM
1~Better commentors! At least those who can pronounce the players names properly. This year, Xie Xing Fang became Shay Shay Fang. A bit Hilarious..
2~The choice to watch it from either sides of the court
3~"TV" Courts to be abolished and broadcast ALL courts.
4~Proper Line Cameras and Unbias Net judges, Line judges, Judges and all.
5~Lots of people from different countries in the crowds. Then you wouldn't have to sit down and hear the crowd supporting one side only!!!

i totally agree with u on no3
broadcast all courts fr round 1 till final
video 4 line calls
LCW 2 win
n MAS to enter finals in all events
haha
so china x dominate

hcyong
01-29-2007, 08:58 AM
Less VIP seats. They piss me off ...

z3048018
02-01-2007, 09:18 AM
have something like tennis where players can challenge line calls. each player/team start off with 2 challenges. if they challenge a line call and proved wrong, deduct 1 challenge, if correct, add 1 challenge.
info can be found here (http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/scores/challenge/index.html#details)