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HowlingFish
10-07-2006, 05:03 PM
While I play singles in badminton, I always have a some sort of energy drink with me.
before I used to use gatorade (sports drink)and it replenish me throughout the game but recently i tried RELOAD, this energy drink and I found out it gave me more of a boost than gatorade but i lose it faster than gatorade.

So when I was playing my friend (who beat me everytime i play against him.) I finally beat him! and by the end of the day he was all pooped up and I was hyper. (next week ima try beer;) )

Later i found out RELOAD (an energy drink) has a whole lotta sugar and caffine in it... no wonder why i was so bouncy
so im wondering...

Im wondering what do you drink?
Energy Drink?
Sports Drink?
Water?
BEER?:)

Dreamzz
10-07-2006, 05:20 PM
mainly water for me, sometimes an isotonic drink, but mainly water ... :p

Viper2005
10-07-2006, 05:38 PM
Monster Energy drink all the way......you can get the 12 pack at Costco for around $14.00.

I get super hyper when I drink one just before playing.

cooler
10-07-2006, 07:21 PM
While I play singles in badminton, I always have a some sort of energy drink with me.
before I used to use gatorade (sports drink)and it replenish me throughout the game but recently i tried RELOAD, this energy drink and I found out it gave me more of a boost than gatorade but i lose it faster than gatorade.

So when I was playing my friend (who beat me everytime i play against him.) I finally beat him! and by the end of the day he was all pooped up and I was hyper. (next week ima try beer;) )

Later i found out RELOAD (an energy drink) has a whole lotta sugar and caffine in it... no wonder why i was so bouncy
so im wondering...

Im wondering what do you drink?
Energy Drink?
Sports Drink?
Water?
BEER?:)
lol, i think the chemicals are still in your system when u created your user account:p

fruit drinks for me, if none, plain water will do.
After games, we go for cold beer:)

stumblingfeet
10-07-2006, 10:40 PM
Caffeine is ergogenic because it increases both alertness and the use of fats in aerobic exercise. That's why very high doses of it is considered illegal in many sports organizations. However, there's often a big crash after some time, and its diuretic effects can be tough on the body during extended competitions.

Now, beer makes for some very interesting games. It'll make you want to hit on your mixed doubles partner, and you'll also develop a new, "deceptive" footwork technique.

DinkAlot
10-08-2006, 08:21 AM
I drink "mugicha" instead of water. It's roasted barley tea in Japanese.

If I need energy boost drink, I just drink Gatorade or Powerade which also prevent cramping.

Joanne
10-08-2006, 09:23 AM
I drink only plain water. I feel guilty drinking an isotonic drink after all the hard work I put into badminton(in terms of the fat percentage I lost =P).

Cramps are a rare occurence nowadays for me.. so I really don't need isotonic drinks anymore.

jas1121
10-08-2006, 09:53 AM
I drink only plain water. I feel guilty drinking an isotonic drink after all the hard work I put into badminton(in terms of the fat percentage I lost =P).

Cramps are a rare occurence nowadays for me.. so I really don't need isotonic drinks anymore.

i thought isotonic drink are to give you more enerygy, therefore enhance your performance.

Joanne
10-08-2006, 10:00 AM
i thought isotonic drink are to give you more enerygy, therefore enhance your performance.

Supposedly the minerals or something like that prevent cramps too. Well, that's what I heard anyway.

And I don't need anymore energy. I've sufficient energy. Lol! After training today I cycled everywhere at topspeed, uphill, downhill etc. Energy is one thing I do not lack. ;)

modious
10-08-2006, 10:03 AM
Normally I'll buy Gatorade in powder form (as it is cheaper) and mix it with water to drink in between games. Sometimes I take Milo or Ovaltine as well.

I also use Endurox Accelerade and/or R4 once in a while though they're rather costly. http://www.enduroxr4.com/

HowlingFish
10-08-2006, 01:36 PM
StumblingFeet your absolutely right... im in pain

Mikie
10-09-2006, 06:18 AM
mineral water + bananas
sometimes - green tea

chris-ccc
10-09-2006, 06:36 AM
Supposedly the minerals or something like that prevent cramps too. Well, that's what I heard anyway.


Hi Joanne,

Magnesium relaxes your muscles.

You will be less likely to get cramps if you consume energy drinks that contain magnesium.

Cheers... chris@ccc

Joanne
10-09-2006, 09:57 AM
Hi Joanne,

Magnesium relaxes your muscles.

You will be less likely to get cramps if you consume energy drinks that contain magnesium.

Cheers... chris@ccc

There, I knew it was some Sciencey thing. =P Thanks, it'll be useful for popping people's eyeballs out. :eek: JOANNE knows that??!

chris-ccc
10-09-2006, 10:57 AM
There, I knew it was some Sciencey thing. =P Thanks


Hi Joanne,

But you will be surprised how many Energy Drinks contain magnesium, perhaps 2% ? :):):)

Cheers... chris@ccc

Joanne
10-09-2006, 11:11 AM
Hi Joanne,

But you will be surprised how many Energy Drinks contain magnesium, perhaps 2% ? :):):)

Cheers... chris@ccc

Oh.. oops. Oh well. I'll go back to my old line about refraining from drinking energy drinks then. :o

chris-ccc
10-09-2006, 11:29 AM
Hi Joanne,

All Nutrition Information should be on the Label of the Energy Drink.

You should take care to have a look.

All Energy Drinks are not the same.

Cheers... chris@ccc

Double_Player
10-09-2006, 06:25 PM
beer sounds good to me :D. I ussually take water during club night. on tournaments I took a gatorade and a banana after each game.

taneepak
10-10-2006, 02:47 AM
You can make your own energy drink to suit your own requirements. They are better, cheaper, fresher, and have no preservatives. All you need are table salt, low sodium salt (for the pottasium), sugar, orange concentrate, baking soda, and water. Energy comes from the sugar and electrolytes from the others. Other more solid (less soluble carbs. like bananas) energy sources are not very suitable for badminton because they release energy too slowly. Or you can replace sugar with glucose powder, which cost maybe 20 times more-an unnecessary luxury.
For the average badminton player I suggest the following :

Ingredients to make 2 litres of own sports drink :

1. Table salt, 1/4 teaspoon
2. Low sodium salt, 1/4 teaspoon
3. Sugar, 4 tablespoon
4. Orange concentrate, 90 ml
5. Baking soda, 1/2 teaspoon
6. Tap Water (filtered if possible) to fill 2 litres of your own sports drink.

Remember, filtered water should be consumed within a few days, even if kept in the fridge. The reason is that filtered water has no chlorine and does not keep long.
I have yet to find a commercial sports drink that is comparable.

morewood
10-10-2006, 04:31 AM
Water, anything containing alcohol or caffeine tends to not rehydrate you. If you want the caffeine buz take a couple of pro plus.

tbone
10-10-2006, 08:29 PM
You can make your own energy drink to suit your own requirements. They are better, cheaper, fresher, and have no preservatives. All you need are table salt, low sodium salt (for the pottasium), sugar, orange concentrate, baking soda, and water. Energy comes from the sugar and electrolytes from the others. Other more solid (less soluble carbs. like bananas) energy sources are not very suitable for badminton because they release energy too slowly. Or you can replace sugar with glucose powder, which cost maybe 20 times more-an unnecessary luxury.
For the average badminton player I suggest the following :

Ingredients to make 2 litres of own sports drink :

1. Table salt, 1/4 teaspoon
2. Low sodium salt, 1/4 teaspoon
3. Sugar, 4 tablespoon
4. Orange concentrate, 90 ml
5. Baking soda, 1/2 teaspoon
6. Tap Water (filtered if possible) to fill 2 litres of your own sports drink.

Remember, filtered water should be consumed within a few days, even if kept in the fridge. The reason is that filtered water has no chlorine and does not keep long.
I have yet to find a commercial sports drink that is comparable.

What is baking soda for? Electrolytes?

DarrenHart
10-10-2006, 09:40 PM
As far as i am aware its probably better to go with the glucose rather than a sucrose solution as the glucose is a monomer and thus is absorbed quicker as there are no bonds to break (Table sugar (sucrose) is a glucose and fructose molecule bonded together). Most sports drinks are designed to supply carbs whilst still ensuring that gastric emptying occurs as normal. The higher the sugar conc, the lower this rate and thus less hydration occurs but more energy replacement as more carbs are getting into the system.

These drinks are normally designed to offer the same gastric emptying rates as water wilst still supplying energy and minerals lost via sweat and other processes.

taneepak
10-11-2006, 01:33 AM
What is baking soda for? Electrolytes?

In sports drinks, it is very important that they contain electrolytes and lactic acid buffers. Sodium and pottasium are the two major electrolytes, the former works outside your cells and the latter inside. Baking soda is the only sports drink ingredient that has both electrolytes and lactic acid buffer, sodium and bicarbonate, respectively. The bicarbonate delays the buildup of lactate, so that you can still run around your opponent who is probably exhausted.

evylgrynn
10-11-2006, 10:28 AM
I usually drink just water, maybe a little gatorade or powerade during intense training sessions. and eat bananas or dried apricots to avoid cramping
But if you go to some of the tournaments in northern alberta (where I'm from) you'd swear they're using beer as an energy drink. Most of the time you can smell the alcohol on you opponent from across the court, that's how you know they're local...

ViningWolff
10-11-2006, 11:03 AM
evylgrynn's energy drink is Amaretto....

You have to be careful of dose loading electrolytes to give you a quick boost during a match - it's like a sugar high... works great for a while, then you crash.

I was given advice to taek sports drink and cut 50/50 with water. It tastes pretty lame, but I've found that I get less dry mouth.

chris-ccc
10-11-2006, 11:42 AM
evylgrynn's energy drink is Amaretto....

You have to be careful of dose loading electrolytes to give you a quick boost during a match - it's like a sugar high... works great for a while, then you crash.

I was given advice to taek sports drink and cut 50/50 with water. It tastes pretty lame, but I've found that I get less dry mouth.
Hi ViningWolff,

Amaretto is a little bitter, isn't it ??? :)

But when evylgrynn mentioned about taking dried apricots... yes, Amaretto is made from apricot stones.

Cheers... chris@ccc

evylgrynn
10-11-2006, 02:00 PM
evylgrynn's energy drink is Amaretto....

You have to be careful of dose loading electrolytes to give you a quick boost during a match - it's like a sugar high... works great for a while, then you crash.

I was given advice to taek sports drink and cut 50/50 with water. It tastes pretty lame, but I've found that I get less dry mouth.


I never mix Amaretto with badminton, the consequences would be disastrous! Especially during mixed doubles play, I don't think I'd live to see the next day.
Unfortunately I have had beer sneak into my water bottle from time to time during tournaments, I never could figure out how that happens.
Amaretto is made from apricots???? maybe I should stay away from apricots too then....

ViningWolff
10-11-2006, 05:09 PM
I will use Evylgrynn as a lab rat and we shall develop a badminton shooter - dunno what we'll call it.

Uh, no the intention is NOT to make it taste like goose feathers or glue. ( given that I don't drink and am a chemical engineer, there is a possiblility a few first attempts might taste like the cork base)

cooler
10-11-2006, 05:15 PM
how much these names:

smash punch
dinker shot

jorel000
10-20-2006, 12:47 AM
Gatorade? i prefer water but if i wanted to replenish myself i'll add 2 pinches of salt and 2 pinches of sugar to 1 bottle of water.

Niall
04-01-2007, 09:25 AM
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asphyxiate
04-01-2007, 07:59 PM
Wouldn't beer slow you down?? Its a depressant...

Eric Lin
04-01-2007, 09:17 PM
Water and a protein/energy bar for me.

SystemicAnomaly
04-03-2007, 05:47 AM
As far as i am aware its probably better to go with the glucose rather than a sucrose solution as the glucose is a monomer and thus is absorbed quicker as there are no bonds to break (Table sugar (sucrose) is a glucose and fructose molecule bonded together)...

Don't thing that glucose is the way to go. White grape juice, which is very high in glucose, ain't a good idea either. The problem with glucose, becuz it is absorbed so quickly, can result in a blood sugar spike when ingested in sufficient amounts. This blood sugar (also glucose) spike will probably cause a release of insulin which will likely leave you with a blood sugar level lower than it was before ingesting the glucose.

A combination of high glycemic sugars and low glycemic sugars is probably a better idea so that an insulin release is minimal. (Note that glycemic load is more important than glycemic index). Combining glucose with sucrose & fructose is one way to go.

Another posibility is to include some sugar alcohols as sweeteners to provide a source of calories that have very little, if any, effect on blood sugar levels (hence no insulin release). Sugar alcohols include Xylitol, Erythritol, and Glycerol (glycerine). Another plus with these sweeteners is that they do not promote tooth decay and, in fact, are beneficial to dental health.

DarrenHart
04-03-2007, 06:04 PM
Don't thing that glucose is the way to go. White grape juice, which is very high in glucose, ain't a good idea either. The problem with glucose, becuz it is absorbed so quickly, can result in a blood sugar spike when ingested in sufficient amounts. This blood sugar (also glucose) spike will probably cause a release of insulin which will likely leave you with a blood sugar level lower than it was before ingesting the glucose.

A combination of high glycemic sugars and low glycemic sugars is probably a better idea so that an insulin release is minimal. (Note that glycemic load is more important than glycemic index). Combining glucose with sucrose & fructose is one way to go.

Another posibility is to include some sugar alcohols as sweeteners to provide a source of calories that have very little, if any, effect on blood sugar levels (hence no insulin release). Sugar alcohols include Xylitol, Erythritol, and Glycerol (glycerine). Another plus with these sweeteners is that they do not promote tooth decay and, in fact, are beneficial to dental health.

If you think that a game of badminton can only last about 30-40 minutes you probably want a short spike of energy, low GI/GL foods release energy with a minimal spike in insulin response but that is generally the glucose in them is broken down/released slowly. In badminton the depletion of the creatine phosphate pool is probably one of the biggest impairments to performance and you need a ready supply of glucose to recharge that. For longer runs and less anerobic based sports i would agree that longer lasting energy supplies would probably be better, for badminton you probably need that short sharp spike of energy. During training maybe go with a longer lasting source, for matches high energy supplies may be best.

Be careful with those sugar alcohols... Too much and they are basically laxatives.... Badminton woul be bad if you needed toilets breaks all the time !

DarrenHart
04-03-2007, 06:39 PM
Also the medics can correct me if i am wrong, but i seem to remember that once exercise has started insulin secretion is greatly reduced and thus High GI/GL carbs dont have a large effect on blood sugar levels.

toddster
04-03-2007, 07:07 PM
beer sounds good to me :D. I ussually take water during club night. on tournaments I took a gatorade and a banana after each game.

I think beer is a good idea after the tournament at the party where there are women there. I think I perform better when I have beer in my system, however, my friends say that my social performance decreases exponentially with the more beer I intake as long as the time factor is decreased.

Toddster

SystemicAnomaly
04-04-2007, 04:56 AM
If you think that a game of badminton can only last about 30-40 minutes you probably want a short spike of energy, low GI/GL foods release energy with a minimal spike in insulin response but that is generally the glucose in them is broken down/released slowly. In badminton the depletion of the creatine phosphate pool is probably one of the biggest impairments to performance and you need a ready supply of glucose to recharge that. For longer runs and less anerobic based sports i would agree that longer lasting energy supplies would probably be better, for badminton you probably need that short sharp spike of energy. During training maybe go with a longer lasting source, for matches high energy supplies may be best.

Be careful with those sugar alcohols... Too much and they are basically laxatives.... Badminton woul be bad if you needed toilets breaks all the time !

Most sugar alcohols have a fairly mild laxative effect. In moderate amounts they should not present much of a prob at all. However when ingesting large amounts, like eating too much fruit (which contains sugar alcohols in addition to various sugars), the effect may be noticable.

Found out recently that Xylitol, which is excellent for dental health, can cause a noticable amt of intestinal gas if ingested in sufficient quantities. For this reason some ppl have switched to Erythritol which appears to have many of the dental health benefits of xylitol w/o the gassy-ness.

Am also looking into Glycerol (glycerine) which is used by some endurance athletes to counteract dehydration by "glycerol loading" before an event. However glycerol should never be consumed undiluted, as unhydrated glycerol will draw water (away) from tissues (where it is often needed).

DarrenHart
04-04-2007, 06:22 AM
I have read something about glycerol also, apparently useful for marathon runners etc in high temp/humidity races as it allows them to hold extra water in their system.

With the extra water also comes extra weight though and it can cause mild intestinal discomfort so the benefits way not outweigh the problems.

All very interesting though.

kris1503dara
06-17-2007, 12:43 PM
While I play singles in badminton, I always have a some sort of energy drink with me.
before I used to use gatorade (sports drink)and it replenish me throughout the game but recently i tried RELOAD, this energy drink and I found out it gave me more of a boost than gatorade but i lose it faster than gatorade.

So when I was playing my friend (who beat me everytime i play against him.) I finally beat him! and by the end of the day he was all pooped up and I was hyper. (next week ima try beer;) )

Later i found out RELOAD (an energy drink) has a whole lotta sugar and caffine in it... no wonder why i was so bouncy
so im wondering...

Im wondering what do you drink?
Energy Drink?
Sports Drink?
Water?
BEER?:)

I find that I get cramped quite quickly if I drink anything other than water during play, and usually very little. After badminton though, beer is ALWAYS the desired choice. Rickard's Red or Stella

Qu3sT10nMaRk
06-17-2007, 03:59 PM
i drink water or if i have money on me gatorade ... none of that ... powerade and "homeade" stuff for me... i wonder does being drunk make u play better...

P.S how does powerade taste like compared to gatorade ... ?

twobeer
06-17-2007, 04:41 PM
Despite my member-name.. I must admit its mostly water for me... Sometimes during long workout or many matches, i have some isotonic sports drinks.. and often a "gainer" (carbs+protein drink) after training..

/Twobeer

chapree
06-19-2007, 01:34 AM
Water for me.
Cheaper in longer run :D