View Full Version : Ask Li Yong Bo WHy BCL Lost
indra
10-11-2006, 08:15 PM
It would be interesting to ask Li Yong Bo why the 2006 WC silver holder lost to TH?
Does anybody know what Li Yong Bo had to say on the loss of his No. 2 man?
I guess the fall of BCL in the first round by the incredible TH will haunt other Chinese players? Who's left, LD and CH?
The next victim will CH on the hand of the new emerging player with strong attacking power, SImon.
:D :D :D
cooler
10-11-2006, 08:18 PM
on the plus side for china, LYB saw taufik played and will adjust his game strategy for his remaining players:p
indra
10-11-2006, 08:55 PM
on the plus side for china, LYB saw taufik played and will adjust his game strategy for his remaining players:p
TH's team has evaluated and used a new strategy....the new strategy was applied to the TH vs BCL match. It worked....
ANother excellent strategy will be applied again to the Simon vs CH match....
We will hear another good news again for Ina team tonight!!! Stay tune!
LI De Quan
10-11-2006, 09:30 PM
NO ,I think you are wrong.Chen Hong will play very well today,I say. I am sure he will win the title. Although Simon is a very powerful player, Chen Hong has more experience than Simon.In the World Badminton Championships he beat GADE Peter and HIDAYAT Taufik. And all you know Simon is far behind them. By the way, It's not Incredible thing that Bao Chun Lai lost to Taufik. They are at same level now,so anyone can win the title.
Simp84
10-11-2006, 09:43 PM
NO ,I think you are wrong.Chen Hong will play very well today,I say. I am sure he will win the title. Although Simon is a very powerful player, Chen Hong has more experience than Simon.In the World Badminton Championships he beat GADE Peter and HIDAYAT Taufik. And all you know Simon is far behind them. By the way, It's not Incredible thing that Bao Chun Lai lost to Taufik. They are at same level now,so anyone can win the title.
err... Simon is not that bad u know?
Anyway we shall see
indra
10-11-2006, 09:44 PM
NO ,I think you are wrong.Chen Hong will play very well today,I say. I am sure he will win the title. Although Simon is a very powerful player, Chen Hong has more experience than Simon.In the World Badminton Championships he beat GADE Peter and HIDAYAT Taufik. And all you know Simon is far behind them. By the way, It's not Incredible thing that Bao Chun Lai lost to Taufik. They are at same level now,so anyone can win the title.
Simon will defeat CH....a matter of hours!!
xymaerts
10-11-2006, 09:47 PM
It is because, their Cheif Coach LYB did not shoult "break his leg" beside the court this time due to presure LYB had and many media will paying hight attention on LYB on this match.
If LYB shoult again, then it will be reported widely in the paper.
So, the answer to Why Bao lost is. LYB did not shoult "break hig leg" Agree?? :D:D:D
ye333
10-11-2006, 09:50 PM
LYB needs a translator if he wants to do that. :D
It is because, their Cheif Coach LYB did not shoult "break his leg" beside the court this time due to presure LYB had and many media will paying hight attention on LYB on this match.
If LYB shoult again, then it will be reported widely in the paper.
So, the answer to Why Bao lost is. LYB did not shoult "break hig leg" Agree?? :D:D:D
chris-ccc
10-11-2006, 10:00 PM
Hi ye333,
Even if LYB shouted in Mandarin "break his leg"... Taufik would not understand it anyway.:p
So yes, he needs a translator.
Cheers... chris@ccc
indra
10-11-2006, 10:24 PM
Hi ye333,
Even if LYB shouted in Mandarin "break his leg"... Taufik would not understand it anyway.:p
So yes, he needs a translator.
Cheers... chris@ccc
Li Yong Bo will never dare to do so with TH....I am very very sure if LYB does that [shouting loudly at or speaking swearwords at TH], Taufik will surely go after him and yell at him too....:D TH will ask the umpire/referree to tell LYB to leave the court:D
Anyhow, what's LYB's comment on BCL's defeat??? I really want to know this. What is the newspaper in China reporting on this?
If BCL was defeated by another player, tha's not a problem...the problem is he was defeated by TH....TH is the real threat for the Chinese Team!!!! Not LCW:D LYB knows this exactly!!! TH is the most dangerous player that can break through the great wall of China....
red00ecstrat
10-11-2006, 10:49 PM
LYB needs a translator if he wants to do that. :D
dirty words of a particular language isn't that hard to learn!:D :p
bugjan72
10-11-2006, 11:15 PM
TH is like 'dark horse' in this tournament. Even tough his current ranking in 30's (correct me if I'm wrong) but all the 'established' players were so worry if they will face TH.
I'm sure all the people who 'hate' TH really want to see him playing with his best always BUT sorry that kind of expectation can not be put on TH shoulder. He's moody player and don't expect him to be a consistent player like LD, LCW or PG. If you all can accept that every player's character is different, it should be no big complaint from everybody.
Anyway, congrats to Roslin who won over Chen Yu. It's big surprise for me, he won straight set and as if CY is a beginner but (don't get offended for M'sian supporter) most of the M'sian players will crack under pressure. Their mentality is not so strong. Track record have shown it many times but yet there's no solid plan/step in how to strenghten their mentality. It's actually big problem for M'sian players.
Another dark horse in this tournament is Candra Wijaya/Tony Gunawan. I really want to know the result of them vs KooKienKiat/Tan (M'sia) today?
LI De Quan
10-11-2006, 11:17 PM
LI Yongbo did not asked BAO Chunlai to break LEE Chong Wei's legs that time. I know LEE Chong Wei was so angry with LI Yongbo after the match that he refused all interviews with Chinese media.Are you think he had done right like this ?Is it really a Fresh thing that Bao Chunlai lost to Taufik ? You know Taufik is former Olympic champion and former world championship champion. Bao Chunlai is Korea Open's champion and also he is world championship's runner-up.So they are both high level players. this time he won, maybe next time he will lose. even if he wins Bao Chunlai this time, you can make sure that he can win CHEN Jin on the China Open ? If Taufik plays in Japan Open final with LIN Dan,I'm sure LIN Dan will beat Taufik. By the way ,In my opinion, LEE Chong Wei will never reach the level of Taufik.
tjl_vanguard
10-11-2006, 11:20 PM
Hi ye333,
Even if LYB shouted in Mandarin "break his leg"... Taufik would not understand it anyway.:p
So yes, he needs a translator.
Cheers... chris@ccc
if LYB even dare to shout a word at TH.. i think serious trouble is coming his way!!! :D
LI De Quan
10-11-2006, 11:33 PM
LI Yongbo did not asked BAO Chunlai to break LEE Chong Wei's legs that time. I know LEE Chong Wei was so angry with LI Yongbo after the match that he refused all interviews with Chinese media.Are you think he had done right like this ?Is it really a Fresh thing that Bao Chunlai lost to Taufik ? You know Taufik is former Olympic champion and former world championship champion. Bao Chunlai is Korea Open's champion and also he is world championship's runner-up.So they are both high level players. this time he won, maybe next time he will lose. even if he wins Bao Chunlai this time, you can make sure that he can win CHEN Jin on the China Open ? If Taufik plays in Japan Open final with LIN Dan,I'm sure LIN Dan will beat Taufik. By the way ,In my opinion, LEE Chong Wei will never reach the level of Taufik.
cooler
10-11-2006, 11:56 PM
LYB can use sign language, like what taufik using it on the linejudge.
breaking a leg = right fist pounding on his left palm:p
tjl_vanguard
10-12-2006, 12:10 AM
yea... perhaps the linejudge will just go blur hahaha
tjl_vanguard
10-12-2006, 12:12 AM
LI Yongbo did not asked BAO Chunlai to break LEE Chong Wei's legs that time. I know LEE Chong Wei was so angry with LI Yongbo after the match that he refused all interviews with Chinese media.Are you think he had done right like this ?Is it really a Fresh thing that Bao Chunlai lost to Taufik ? You know Taufik is former Olympic champion and former world championship champion. Bao Chunlai is Korea Open's champion and also he is world championship's runner-up.So they are both high level players. this time he won, maybe next time he will lose. even if he wins Bao Chunlai this time, you can make sure that he can win CHEN Jin on the China Open ? If Taufik plays in Japan Open final with LIN Dan,I'm sure LIN Dan will beat Taufik. By the way ,In my opinion, LEE Chong Wei will never reach the level of Taufik.
IMO, i dun think u shud have jumped to conclusion saying LCW cant reach TH's level.... in badminton, anything might happen.... take for example, Chen yu just lost to Roslin.. at first, no one ever thought that CHEN Yu will lose to Roslin rite???? so, i yrs to come, maybe LD gets stronger n LCW gets weaker. but it might vice versa..... :)
woodenRacket
10-12-2006, 12:55 AM
It would be interesting to ask Li Yong Bo why the 2006 WC silver holder lost to TH?
Does anybody know what Li Yong Bo had to say on the loss of his No. 2 man?
I guess the fall of BCL in the first round by the incredible TH will haunt other Chinese players? Who's left, LD and CH?
The next victim will CH on the hand of the new emerging player with strong attacking power, SImon.
:D :D :D
This looks so ridiculous. It is a game; someone wins and someone loses. No one can say that he/she is invincible. TH wins this time, because he plays better than BCL. Credit to TH.
Do you want others to ask whenver TH lost:
It would be interesting to ask INA coach why the 2005 WC gold holder, 2004 Olympic gold holer lost to numerous players?
CLELY
10-12-2006, 12:56 AM
I think LYB is not surprising at all with BCL's failure because his 'golden-boy' is still on the track. Keep this question until Sunday finale if TH can beat the newly-crowned WChamp LD,very sure LYB will gonna be speechless! BCL is 2nd tier of CHN's MS squad and TH's target man in this tourney is LD not BCL. With all TH's fame and achievements so far, we should be double-shock if TH must lost again (fortunately not happened) although his WR 'just' 34. TH had done well yesterday, a very good beginning for him but he must face long-journey to get the title. 2 big name possible are waiting him -- LCW on SF spot and his arch-rival at last round. Without CJ participation and BCL ousted plus uncertainty CH, I guess LYB's only hope depends on LD. Hopefully Simon can make breakthrough action today!
xymaerts
10-12-2006, 01:04 AM
By the way ,In my opinion, LEE Chong Wei will never reach the level of Taufik.
No, that is you own opinion. In many ocation Taufik do said that he impress with LCW especially in the thomos cup and not the others in Malaysia team. He do mentioned also that Simo and others Indonesai MS they need to reach to world class level like what LCW is now. Because most of the player are in the same years with LCW when they fist started to play in internaltional circuit. From what i see, TH is very impress and i cannot said admire him. But at least TH do put LCW in his own "list". Do u think that TH will simply put anybody in his "list"??
kobe77sg
10-12-2006, 01:09 AM
Go Taufik Go Taufik Go Taufik Go Win Japan Open 2006
LI De Quan
10-12-2006, 01:09 AM
IMO, i dun think u shud have jumped to conclusion saying LCW cant reach TH's level.... in badminton, anything might happen.... take for example, Chen yu just lost to Roslin.. at first, no one ever thought that CHEN Yu will lose to Roslin rite???? so, i yrs to come, maybe LD gets stronger n LCW gets weaker. but it might vice versa..... :)Roslin is the runner-up of the Korea Open. He has beat LEE Chong Wei, Chen Yu and SHON Seung Mo. This shows that he is indeed very strong,sometimes.Chen Yu lost to him, it's just proved that Chen Yu is not in-form, and Roslin are in-form now.
Malaysianfan
10-12-2006, 01:38 AM
Hey, why everyone seems to look down on Lee Chong Wei? This is what i don't understand. Morten Frost, Park Joo Bong and Indra Gunawan have praised LCW and seen him as a badminton rising star now. But then, some current chinese players like XXZ and ZJW said that LCW's ability is not that great.
Somemore, it will be difficult for Taufik and LCW as they just played badminton together for fun when Taufik came to Malaysia last few weeks for the world chinese badminton championship. It was reported in the news that Taufik went to look for LCW immediately shortly after he arrived. Well, they seem to have a good relationship.
xymaerts
10-12-2006, 01:54 AM
It was reported in the news that Taufik went to look for LCW immediately shortly after he arrived. Well, they seem to have a good relationship.
Well, i start to change my words from Taufik impress to he admire LCW..
Jessica
10-12-2006, 02:01 AM
Nobody looking down on LCW...He is a very good player...It seems that taufik really has good relationship with him...
**KZ**
10-12-2006, 02:10 AM
Hey, why everyone seems to look down on Lee Chong Wei? This is what i don't understand. Morten Frost, Park Joo Bong and Indra Gunawan have praised LCW and seen him as a badminton rising star now. But then, some current chinese players like XXZ and ZJW said that LCW's ability is not that great.
XXZ said LCW's ability not that good? Well...after he said that he was beaten 15-12, 15-0 by LCW in some final
Malaysianfan
10-12-2006, 02:14 AM
XXZ said LCW's ability not that good? Well...after he said that he was beaten 15-12, 15-0 by LCW in some final
Nope, he said that after the All England Final this year. He was beaten by LCW 15-12, 15-0 before the All England final.
xymaerts
10-12-2006, 02:14 AM
XXZ said LCW's ability not that good? Well...after he said that he was beaten 15-12, 15-0 by LCW in some final
Ya..ya.. the big mouth XXZ. Let me recall what tourament is that..when he eat a duck.hmn..cannot recall lah.. any1 can?
Nobody looking down on LCW...He is a very good player...It seems that taufik really has good relationship with him...
I think this is a good strategy. Malaysia and Indonesia gang up to face the Great Wall. Won't that shock LYB? LYB has BCL and CH to wear out LCW and TH, so LCW and TH must put their heads together to confuse LYB! :D With Hafiz, Roslin, Simon and Sony joining in, the Chinese Wall will surely collapse. ;)
I think LYB will now resort to using both his hands and his mouth to try to destabilize LCW and TH. But he can also use CJ and CY in this chess game. :rolleyes:
indra
10-12-2006, 03:11 AM
I think this is a good strategy. Malaysia and Indonesia gang up to face the Great Wall. Won't that shock LYB? LYB has BCL and CH to wear out LCW and TH, so LCW and TH must put their heads together to confuse LYB! :D With Hafiz, Roslin, Simon and Sony joining in, the Chinese Wall will surely collapse. ;)
I think LYB will now resort to using both his hands and his mouth to try to destabilize LCW and TH. But he can also use CJ and CY in this chess game. :rolleyes:
ACtually I don't care whether TH will win the tournament or not, what I really care is " defeating top Chinese players [especially LD and BCL].":D
If TH loses, that's OK as long as he is not defeated by LD and BCL....:D
jasonmarc
10-12-2006, 03:33 AM
It is because, their Cheif Coach LYB did not shoult "break his leg" beside the court this time due to presure LYB had and many media will paying hight attention on LYB on this match.
If LYB shoult again, then it will be reported widely in the paper.
So, the answer to Why Bao lost is. LYB did not shoult "break hig leg" Agree?? :D:D:D
Yes i am pretty sure he shoulted, the only different this time is TH didnt understand mandarin....... this strategy only applicable to those who can understand mandarin.....:D :D :D
chris-ccc
10-12-2006, 03:34 AM
Malaysia and Indonesia gang up to face the Great Wall. Won't that shock LYB? LYB has BCL and CH to wear out LCW and TH, so LCW and TH must put their heads together to confuse LYB! :D
Hi Loh,
Unfortunately, good friends, TH and LCW got to play each other before one of them play LD or CH.
Perhaps, PG could do the job for TH and LCW.
Cheers... chris@ccc
He can only beat Lindan in the Finals.
DennisW
10-12-2006, 03:37 AM
This Japan open is becoming more and more interesting. The champian remains unkown. Many possibilities.
Player at level like TH, BCL, can beat anyone or be beaten by anyone. Mental pressure is influential..
Wildstone
10-12-2006, 03:41 AM
Ya..ya.. the big mouth XXZ. Let me recall what tourament is that..when he eat a duck.hmn..cannot recall lah.. any1 can?
Swiss Open 2006
nwy5633
10-12-2006, 03:58 AM
I think this is a good strategy. Malaysia and Indonesia gang up to face the Great Wall. Won't that shock LYB? LYB has BCL and CH to wear out LCW and TH, so LCW and TH must put their heads together to confuse LYB! :D With Hafiz, Roslin, Simon and Sony joining in, the Chinese Wall will surely collapse. ;)
I think LYB will now resort to using both his hands and his mouth to try to destabilize LCW and TH. But he can also use CJ and CY in this chess game. :rolleyes:
wow:eek:
it smells like world war 3...
the war between china & all others country badminton player...:D
but its interesting if tat happen...
then we won't need tat MVP cup between europe & asia...
it will change to china vs the world...:rolleyes:
tat will surely be more exciting than europe vs asia...
haha:p
virusvoodoo
10-12-2006, 04:05 AM
Hey, why everyone seems to look down on Lee Chong Wei? This is what i don't understand. Morten Frost, Park Joo Bong and Indra Gunawan have praised LCW and seen him as a badminton rising star now. But then, some current chinese players like XXZ and ZJW said that LCW's ability is not that great.
Somemore, it will be difficult for Taufik and LCW as they just played badminton together for fun when Taufik came to Malaysia last few weeks for the world chinese badminton championship. It was reported in the news that Taufik went to look for LCW immediately shortly after he arrived. Well, they seem to have a good relationship.
Who is "ZJW", Zhang JieWen - Chinese women doubles player? If you mean Zhao Jian Hua then it should be ZJH!
jasonmarc
10-12-2006, 04:06 AM
It would be interesting to ask Li Yong Bo why the 2006 WC silver holder lost to TH?
Does anybody know what Li Yong Bo had to say on the loss of his No. 2 man?
I guess the fall of BCL in the first round by the incredible TH will haunt other Chinese players? Who's left, LD and CH?
The next victim will CH on the hand of the new emerging player with strong attacking power, SImon.
:D :D :D
O-Oh, Simon lost to CH........ what the......:crying: :crying: :crying:
weeyet
10-12-2006, 04:27 AM
why does everybody seem so surprised BCL lost to Taufik?
Taufik wasn't on form since his injury. If he gets back to his normal game, what's so surprising?
Ai Mei
10-12-2006, 05:01 AM
hix hix hix so sad to heard that news
bao2 lost from taufik
c'mon bao...........jia you in the china Open
don't lose anymore....be the no.1
jia you bao.............jia you bao.................
OMG Simon lost.............hix why did he lose??? Oh no..............
Malaysianfan
10-12-2006, 05:46 AM
Who is "ZJW", Zhang JieWen - Chinese women doubles player? If you mean Zhao Jian Hua then it should be ZJH!
It is ZJW ( I said before ''current chinese players''). I read in her blog. It was said that though LCW has good skills and smart plays but his overall ability is not strong.
zqloy
10-12-2006, 06:09 AM
Hey, why everyone seems to look down on Lee Chong Wei? This is what i don't understand. Morten Frost, Park Joo Bong and Indra Gunawan have praised LCW and seen him as a badminton rising star now. But then, some current chinese players like XXZ and ZJW said that LCW's ability is not that great.
Somemore, it will be difficult for Taufik and LCW as they just played badminton together for fun when Taufik came to Malaysia last few weeks for the world chinese badminton championship. It was reported in the news that Taufik went to look for LCW immediately shortly after he arrived. Well, they seem to have a good relationship.
LCW is currently considered the most dangerous opponent of the chinese players together with Taufik. And somemore LCW is not at his peak yet, im sure he will bacome even dangerous as time comes. I dont think any of the chinese dared to look down on him, maybe just some fans with pure ignorance does that :rolleyes:
zqloy
10-12-2006, 06:11 AM
It is ZJW ( I said before ''current chinese players''). I read in her blog. It was said that though LCW has good skills and smart plays but his overall ability is not strong.
Yeah i read that too. She said she had "saw" LCW played once b4.... maybe i suspect maybe 1 or 2 yrs ago? :p
pauline
10-12-2006, 07:33 AM
XXZ said LCW's ability not that good? Well...after he said that he was beaten 15-12, 15-0 by LCW in some final
yea,I saw that article on China Press. XXZ said it's difficult for Chong Wei to be able to compete with other top players in the world.
I'm so dissapointed....my favourite player commented such thing about LCW!:crying:
xbro88
10-12-2006, 07:36 AM
Yes i am pretty sure he shoulted, the only different this time is TH didnt understand mandarin....... this strategy only applicable to those who can understand mandarin.....:D :D :D
nxt time he will be using middle finger... :D
extremenanopowe
10-12-2006, 07:37 AM
well, looks like potential LCW to play with a chinese again. Lets see if LYB will do the same as in WC. Any cameras around?
rgds
zqloy
10-12-2006, 07:39 AM
yea,I saw that article on China Press. XXZ said it's difficult for Chong Wei to be able to compete with other top players in the world.
I'm so dissapointed....my favourite player commented such thing about LCW!:crying:
Dun cry, maybe the press is just making things up :cool:
If sayin such things even after beaten 15-0 by LCW, then he is definitely making himself a joke!
pauline
10-12-2006, 08:08 AM
Dun cry, maybe the press is just making things up :cool:
If sayin such things even after beaten 15-0 by LCW, then he is definitely making himself a joke!
perhaps...the media could have added to his words.
weeyet
10-12-2006, 08:11 AM
Dun cry, maybe the press is just making things up :cool:
If sayin such things even after beaten 15-0 by LCW, then he is definitely making himself a joke!
maybe XXZ got his points, he should have explained it..
But i don't think a 0-15 thrash by LCW means that XXZ couldn't comment, because XXZ was not at his prime. But, XXZ is qualified to make a comment because he's won something, he has won All England and World Champion. Today I believe LCW can thrash ZJH and YY 15-0 as well. Bear in mind that, LCW has achieved nothing yet compared to XXZ.
zqloy
10-12-2006, 08:24 AM
maybe XXZ got his points, he should have explained it..
But i don't think a 0-15 thrash by LCW means that XXZ couldn't comment, because XXZ was not at his prime. But, XXZ is qualified to make a comment because he's won something, he has won All England and World Champion. Today I believe LCW can thrash ZJH and YY 15-0 as well. Bear in mind that, LCW has achieved nothing yet compared to XXZ.
True. But he should not commented like LCW would not NEVER be a top class player, yes LCW might not yet a top class player then but he definitely IS now. And XXZ was NOT totally off form that time, he had beaten PG b4 went into finals and its an embarrassment as an former world champion to be beaten 15-0! For my opinion, that comment just sounded like sour grapes :rolleyes:
weeyet
10-12-2006, 08:50 AM
True. But he should not commented like LCW would not NEVER be a top class player, yes LCW might not yet a top class player then but he definitely IS now. And XXZ was NOT totally off form that time, he had beaten PG b4 went into finals and its an embarrassment as an former world champion to be beaten 15-0! For my opinion, that comment just sounded like sour grapes :rolleyes:
What comment did XXZ make actually?? :D
Wong8Egg
10-12-2006, 09:58 AM
Dun cry, maybe the press is just making things up :cool:
If sayin such things even after beaten 15-0 by LCW, then he is definitely making himself a joke!
when was the comment made?
LazyBuddy
10-12-2006, 10:08 AM
True. But he should not commented like LCW would not NEVER be a top class player, yes LCW might not yet a top class player then but he definitely IS now. And XXZ was NOT totally off form that time, he had beaten PG b4 went into finals and its an embarrassment as an former world champion to be beaten 15-0! For my opinion, that comment just sounded like sour grapes :rolleyes:
Ok, ok...
After reading this thread for a while, I think the angry fans from both sides (INA vs CHN) start to drag more and more victims into the match. LCW, XXZ, etc have nothing to do with TH vs. BCL (or with LYB), but somehow, their names being metioned, and worst, put it down to the ground, just because xxx said this, or yyy said that.
Please, all the pros deserve well respect, be the fact they were/are/will be great or not. They put in effort, bring entertainment for us, and we just finger point them like this???
1. Don't trust the media words 100%. Many times, they mis-understand the words, and even make up a story.
2. Even if an athlete might offense ur hero, no need to shout it back. Overall, everyone has his/her own point of view, maybe valid or maybe not. No need to take it very personally.
3. It's not fair to compare 2 generations of players, when their prime are clearly not overlaping. The young guns should not laugh the oldiest as they can't keep up the pace any more. The old crafties, no need to always being metioned in the "golden glory", and how much they can trash the young ones when they were too young to be even remembered.
Can we put aside all the pointless finger pointing issues? Overall, we love the sport, and we should respect it. :cool:
ye333
10-12-2006, 10:16 AM
Don't mean to start all such argument again but I find your "LCW can thrash ZJH and YY 15-0" claim ridiculous. LCW cannot even thrash players like Joachim Persson or Shoji Sato 15-0. I suggest you watch a great game just uploaded by (the great) Modious, in which a very out-of-form Dong Jiong easily manipulated a young, fast and powerful XXZ all around the court simply by hitting the shuttle to all four corners, with a little deception.
maybe XXZ got his points, he should have explained it..
But i don't think a 0-15 thrash by LCW means that XXZ couldn't comment, because XXZ was not at his prime. But, XXZ is qualified to make a comment because he's won something, he has won All England and World Champion. Today I believe LCW can thrash ZJH and YY 15-0 as well. Bear in mind that, LCW has achieved nothing yet compared to XXZ.
ye333
10-12-2006, 10:19 AM
Definitely after the 0-15 loss. :)
Anyway, it seems to me that Chinese players are all brain-washed by LYB, including thoughtful ones like XXZ (sad). They really think everything LYB says are the truth and the only truth. In the ZJW case, I think she noticed that LCW is fast but not strong/powerful compared to Chinese MSs, and then concluded that of course (according to the current Chinese standard of "good players") LCW cannot reach the highest level.
when was the comment made?
Baderz_Jas
10-12-2006, 10:22 AM
Maybe TH just prepared better than the WC07 :D
TH is a great player when he gets motivated... ;) :)
ye333
10-12-2006, 10:29 AM
When he's motivated, he trains harder and gets better stamina, and is more concentrated and calm on court, I think that's all... and that's all he needs to beat others nowadays...
I think he indeed has never loved badminton and never wanted to fully realize his talent.
Maybe TH just prepared better than the WC07 :D
TH is a great player when he gets motivated... ;) :)
Baderz_Jas
10-12-2006, 10:31 AM
When he's motivated, he trains harder and gets better stamina, and is more concentrated and calm on court, I think that's all... and that's all he needs to beat others nowadays...
Yeah, I agree! :D
saugusli
10-12-2006, 10:33 AM
Yes.. I am agree with you. When taufik get motivated and nothing problems with him (injury, family problem, etc), he will be the great player and nobody can beat him.
His Forehand Smash speed = 298Km/hour and Backhand smash speed = 260Km/hour... So alot of player scare with him... He is completed player..
Now, Taufik, LCW, Peter Gade can beat the chinese player. The rest imposible.. I hope Taufik, LCW and Peter can gets motivated for Japan and China championship. So the championship can be like to see.
Maybe TH just prepared better than the WC07 :D
TH is a great player when he gets motivated... ;) :)
ye333
10-12-2006, 10:38 AM
You forgot LHI, "number one" of Korea who just beated CJ. :D
Also in this WC Taufik has smashed >300km forehand I think.
Yes.. I am agree with you. When taufik get motivated and nothing problems with him (injury, family problem, etc), he will be the great player and nobody can beat him.
His Forehand Smash speed = 298Km/hour and Backhand smash speed = 260Km/hour... So alot of player scare with him... He is completed player..
Now, Taufik, LCW, Peter Gade can beat the chinese player. The rest imposible.. I hope Taufik, LCW and Peter can gets motivated for Japan and China championship. So the championship can be like to see.
weeyet
10-12-2006, 01:15 PM
Don't mean to start all such argument again but I find your "LCW can thrash ZJH and YY 15-0" claim ridiculous. LCW cannot even thrash players like Joachim Persson or Shoji Sato 15-0.
I mean if LCW plays ZJH or YY in 2006, I won't be surprised if LCW win it 15-0
mazinkaiser
10-12-2006, 01:53 PM
I mean if LCW plays ZJH or YY in 2006, I won't be surprised if LCW win it 15-0
weeyet, I agree with ye333. your comparison of players from different generations is very rediculous. How about this, I say in 50 years, my unborn grandchild can whip LCW 15-0. That's how rediculous your comparison sounds.
Ethan
10-12-2006, 01:58 PM
I thought that this thread was supposed to tell me why BCL lost but I think I have clicked the wrong thread. Keep to the topic friends !!
ye333
10-12-2006, 02:12 PM
You should know this thread is not really about the reason why BCL lost from its title. :D
And if you ask me, I say it's perfectly normal that BCL lost. Because Taufik is a better player. It seems to me Taufik changed (became mature maybe) around 2002-03. Before that he was around the same level as BCL but after that he is higher.
I thought that this thread was supposed to tell me why BCL lost but I think I have clicked the wrong thread. Keep to the topic friends !!
ye333
10-12-2006, 02:13 PM
I bet most of the times it would be 21:0. :D
I mean if LCW plays ZJH or YY in 2006, I won't be surprised if LCW win it 15-0
weeyet
10-12-2006, 03:10 PM
weeyet, I agree with ye333. your comparison of players from different generations is very rediculous. How about this, I say in 50 years, my unborn grandchild can whip LCW 15-0. That's how rediculous your comparison sounds.
oh my god, you didnt get me. I suggest you to read through thoroughly all the posts before you post.. :rolleyes:
Why I said that? Because someone said that XXZ shouldn't comment on LCW, because he got beaten by LCW 0-15.
Then, I replied, XXZ got beaten by 0-15 is because he was not at his prime. If that logic stands, ZJH and YY shouldn't comment on LCW, because if they play LCW NOW, they will be thrashed 0-15 as well.
But, that logic doesn't stand. That's my point.
ye333
10-12-2006, 05:06 PM
Man actually I didn't get you... :D But you are pushing it too far. Xia was not in his prime when he got beaten 0:15 this year, but he is not far from his prime either, it's just 2 and half years from his WC gold, and he didn't retire after WC or anything, he was still training regularly and among top 5 in China when he got the 0:15.
oh my god, you didnt get me. I suggest you to read through thoroughly all the posts before you post.. :rolleyes:
Why I said that? Because someone said that XXZ shouldn't comment on LCW, because he got beaten by LCW 0-15.
Then, I replied, XXZ got beaten by 0-15 is because he was not at his prime. If that logic stands, ZJH and YY shouldn't comment on LCW, because if they play LCW NOW, they will be thrashed 0-15 as well.
But, that logic doesn't stand. That's my point.
Qidong
10-12-2006, 05:46 PM
In that case, I guess the only person who can comment on LCW is Lin Dan. :confused: Not even Li Mao because I bet LCW can beat Li Mao 21-0 even without sweating.
jiayou
10-12-2006, 05:50 PM
in sport sometime you can win or sometime you can also lose.
any sportman never been losing ?
zqloy
10-12-2006, 07:56 PM
Don't mean to start all such argument again but I find your "LCW can thrash ZJH and YY 15-0" claim ridiculous. LCW cannot even thrash players like Joachim Persson or Shoji Sato 15-0. I suggest you watch a great game just uploaded by (the great) Modious, in which a very out-of-form Dong Jiong easily manipulated a young, fast and powerful XXZ all around the court simply by hitting the shuttle to all four corners, with a little deception.
A little correction for u here. LCW DID trashed Shoji Sato 15-0 before, i think its in Sudirman Cup last year. :cool:
aquaboi
10-13-2006, 11:35 AM
dont ask lyb...ask bcl...lyb advises, bcl executes...anyway, i hate lyb...
Chu Liuxiang
10-13-2006, 11:57 AM
A little correction for u here. LCW DID trashed Shoji Sato 15-0 before, i think its in Sudirman Cup last year. :cool:
Not only Shoji Sato and XXZ, I remember that even Taufik Hidayat was trashed 0-15 by LCW in Malaysian Open 2005.:D
chris-ccc
10-14-2006, 09:10 AM
Unfortunately, good friends, TH and LCW got to play each other before one of them play LD or CH.
Perhaps, PG could do the job for TH and LCW.
Greetings,
So...... PG couldn't do the job.
Will there be this question after tomorrow, Sunday 15-Oct-2006, "Ask Li Yong Bo Why LD Lost" :cool::);)
Cheers... chris@ccc
sickgal
10-14-2006, 11:26 AM
i seriously pray that tmr there is no such topic!!
cross my fingers..
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