hello

i have a distinct problem in that i'm desperate to make it as a pro badminton player. i know i have the mental toughness and the desire to train and train to become the best i'm currently 17 at the moment but the problem i have is that i can only afford to have a 1 hour coaching session once a week. although i play club night/matchs on wednesday's and thursday's and is fairly competitive i know that at my current rate i will never become the player which i so badly desire to be. i know in my mind that i want at least coaching 3 times a week in 3 hour blocks working on various components of my game yet i know i cannot afford this.

so in essance my question to you is there any aspects of my game that i can work on by myself to improve my game so i can utilise my coaching time on the most important aspects of my game

although i only picked up the game 3 & 1/2 years ago from not being able to hit a shuttle i'm in the regional squad (hawkes bay) but in my mind this is not good enough i want to be playing for queen and country and any advice would be greatly appreciated

your faithfully

oliver

Yo im the same man i cannot afford full time coaching training.. so i compensate what i do is look for a good player or my rival and ask to hit you do not need coaching advice all the time. just keep practicing technique clearing , smashing , drop, net play.. etc. i make a routine so my strokes are sharp. keep training Example Lin Dans only rest day is sunday but even though his training is so hard sometimes he still comes and practices footwork by himpself shadow play and all.. yo make do what you have

Hope you can improve man

hello

i have a distinct problem in that i'm desperate to make it as a pro badminton player. i know i have the mental toughness and the desire to train and train to become the best i'm currently 17 at the moment but the problem i have is that i can only afford to have a 1 hour coaching session once a week. although i play club night/matchs on wednesday's and thursday's and is fairly competitive i know that at my current rate i will never become the player which i so badly desire to be. i know in my mind that i want at least coaching 3 times a week in 3 hour blocks working on various components of my game yet i know i cannot afford this.

so in essance my question to you is there any aspects of my game that i can work on by myself to improve my game so i can utilise my coaching time on the most important aspects of my game

although i only picked up the game 3 & 1/2 years ago from not being able to hit a shuttle i'm in the regional squad (hawkes bay) but in my mind this is not good enough i want to be playing for queen and country and any advice would be greatly appreciated

your faithfully

oliver

One thing I would like to point out is I do hope you don't have the same temperament as some of the senior figures in the "Black Cocks' squad. Other than that, if you know what you want and you aim towards it, no matter what obstacles come in your way you should be able to tackle it. I wish you every success mate but seriously, if you want to improve, practice every day. Make it a ritual, practice till you start vomitting.

i can assure you i am one of the most dedicated players at my club and always have a desire to train and train to improve. to become an international is my ultimate desire i really do want it more than everything. but i know as a player that it was not long ago that i could not even hit a shuttle so in my opinion of myself i know that if pitted against alot weaker players i dont turn into a snobby player with the attitude of they are too rubbish to even share the court with me no i try to also give them a very good game and an enjoyable evening

as i said before to become an international is the ultimate dream but i just cant afford to train often and long enough to become the player that i want to be in my own mind.

You could take some courses to train as a coach yourself. This way you could volunteer to help more experienced coaches for free. It'll expose you to more ideas and it won't cost you anything, it's possible you might even make a very small amount of money doing it!

i can assure you i am one of the most dedicated players at my club and always have a desire to train and train to improve. to become an international is my ultimate desire i really do want it more than everything. but i know as a player that it was not long ago that i could not even hit a shuttle so in my opinion of myself i know that if pitted against alot weaker players i dont turn into a snobby player with the attitude of they are too rubbish to even share the court with me no i try to also give them a very good game and an enjoyable evening

as i said before to become an international is the ultimate dream but i just cant afford to train often and long enough to become the player that i want to be in my own mind.

I am not only talking about dedication and desire and all that self commitment stuff. But rather on other aspects of character.

Hey Oliver,

Have you registered for the Waikato Summer Camp? I think it will bring good value if you haven't already experienced such camps.

P.S. Just out of curiosity - Are you Oliver Pike or Oliver Leydon-Davies or none of the above? :rolleyes:

1. Try to enrol into one of the ITCs (International Training Centre) run by BWF (formerly IBF) through your NZ Badminton Association. You will then get the first-hand benefit of how you should train to achieve your goals. Write directly to BWF if your local assn can't or won't help.

2. Obtain as many DVDs on badminton coaching (even by the Chinese) and top-class matches, like the recent Hong Kong and Japan Opens and World Championships. Main purpose is to see for yourself how top flight badminton is played. Pay particular attention to stroke making and footwork. See for yourself how Lin Dan covers the court, how Taufik does his trademark backhand smash, how Chen Hong whips his overhead smash, etc.

3. Improve on your fitness, stamina, speed, strength, agility, etc, by devising a workout plan on your own with specialist/expert help. This is to enable you to make full use of your spare time and out-of-court inactivity. As someone has suggested you could also practise footwork and shadow play on your own.

4. During your limited precious hours on court, be more purposeful and don't just fool around. Play one against two or more to test your own ability and fitness (speed and reaction time). Once you are able to beat a certain level of players easily, take on the higher level chaps. Play for something, like drinks, shuttlecocks, etc, if it means just to be able to get them to play against you.

5. Take care of your own health to avoid injuries. Make sure you have sufficient liquids, good diet and adequate rest.

5. Listen to motivational tapes whenever you can.

Good Luck! :)

if you are 17 (like me) and you wanna play internatioanlly you really have a catching up race to do...most pro's started when they were 3-8 years old and played/trained a lot, 15 hours of court-time is no exception.

I'm not saying it is too late, anythign is possible, I ahven't seen you play, btu you sound devoted, so keep the spirit up!

but, personally, I think it's much better to just wan't to play as much as you can, and want to get the very best out of yourself, wether you will be #1 or number #100000000 worldwide...as long as you feel you've done all you can, and enjoyed the way there..

that's what keeps me smiling when I'm up 5:45 on monday and friday, and cycle 25mins to do 1,5h of drills before school...;):p

if you are 17 (like me) and you wanna play internatioanlly you really have a catching up race to do...most pro's started when they were 3-8 years old and played/trained a lot, 15 hours of court-time is no exception.

I'm not saying it is too late, anythign is possible, I ahven't seen you play, btu you sound devoted, so keep the spirit up!

but, personally, I think it's much better to just wan't to play as much as you can, and want to get the very best out of yourself, wether you will be #1 or number #100000000 worldwide...as long as you feel you've done all you can, and enjoyed the way there..

that's what keeps me smiling when I'm up 5:45 on monday and friday, and cycle 25mins to do 1,5h of drills before school...;):p

Keep it up, Jerby! :)

All battles are won first in the mind. When the mind thinks, the body responds, what you need is a huge amount of patience and diligence and great will power to achieve great things.

You are so lucky that at your young age of 17 you already have the taste of the game. Keep on practicing off-court and on- court and you can also learn a lot from 'actively' watching videos of pros playing ( others watch 'passively" -they just admired the pros as they play, you should be watching 'actively' or objectively, hinting for the 'brainy' aspect of the game)

I have also the same desire as yours despite am turning 30. Cheers!

hi all thank you for all your suggestions.

rlaurel_7: good suggestion about practising with other players which i was already doing but your quite right in that i should just do drills thanks for the suggestion though

crooscourt: very good suggestion about training to be a coach one that i have not thought about so it is deffinantly on my list of things to do cheers

maz: i had not heard of the waikato summer camp so thanks for bringing it to my attention yes it would be perfect but according to the description im too old and the 3 day course is rather expensive when you add up hotel, food, drink and travel so thats crossed off for now but again i'm really glad you brought it to my attention

loh: great ideas there and i will be trying to implement all of them into the daily routine of life along with trying to obtain some badders vids thanks a bunch your post was really helpful

jerby: i can assure you that i know i'm well behind yet i'm confident with alot of hard work i can achieve it and yes i suppose in the long run it wouldn't ruin my life if i wasn't #1 but i just have this dessire this almost indescrible feeling of wanting to be number 1, almost a feeling of i'm rubbish until i achieve that level i know it sounds odd to many that how i can describe it

syndrome b: although in your situation youb may think i'm lucky for the age i'm at but if you luck more into it many pro's first pick up a racket at age 6/7 so i got some time to catch up on. my advice to you syndrome is to remember that their are veteran internationals yes i know 30 is not a vet but just dont ever give up hope that you can represent your country

again thanks to all that have replied and anyone else feel free to give other suggestions cheers

ive got the same problem here man, thanks a lot for starting this thread, its quite an appropriate one :). well i don't think ill make it to international teams, but im aiming for regional ones right now. i think im progressing pretty good considering that i only started playing at the beginning of this year. i started way too late.
lol i cant even afford the one hour of coaching:o, cos i dont want to ask parents the money for it. i play atleast three days a week, 2hrs each day.
also, im on a comeback from a wrist stress injury so i need to get my touch back and all that. but usually i watch lots of videos and do lots of running. i also keep moving my wrist around all the time, helps quite a lot.
but as some people in this thread have already said so, we have to make the best out of what we have. if you are really that serious about it, you'll think of something, don't worry.
good luck, keep us posted about your progress :)

ive got the same problem here man, thanks a lot for starting this thread, its quite an appropriate one :). well i don't think ill make it to international teams, but im aiming for regional ones right now. i think im progressing pretty good considering that i only started playing at the beginning of this year. i started way too late.
lol i cant even afford the one hour of coaching:o, cos i dont want to ask parents the money for it. i play atleast three days a week, 2hrs each day.
also, im on a comeback from a wrist stress injury so i need to get my touch back and all that. but usually i watch lots of videos and do lots of running. i also keep moving my wrist around all the time, helps quite a lot.
but as some people in this thread have already said so, we have to make the best out of what we have. if you are really that serious about it, you'll think of something, don't worry.
good luck, keep us posted about your progress :)

There's nothing wrong if you want to inflate your goal, lets say you want to be a part of an international team. Thats a good benchmark for self motivation. Just remember, in any kinds of sports, enjoy wiining and losing, dont use your victory to hurt someone but to create YOU. when you lose, try to improve and anaylse what went wrong. keep on practicing my friend :)

Oliver,

I know how you feel. I just recently picked up the game a little more than a year ago. And im at the moment 16. So, Im in my senior year of high school. My Coach, Phu Khuu of Bintang Badminton Academy, inspired me so much by telling me anything is possible if you just put your mind into it. SO i did! I gave him my trust and my future.

IN California there is a test called the California Proficiency Examination. It lets you graduate from high school early so im basically skipping my senior year so i can take a year off to go on with Full on Training to catch up to my fellow competitors throughout the U.S.

I practice about 8 hours a day. And spend about 3 hours of it Conditioning. Im glad my coach is willing to train me and i hope you find a great coach like mine to take you alll the way. [ not that a coach is neccessary ]

Im currently taking college courses slowly so that im still in school and yet still enough time to practice. I want to become Professional as well. So i understand how you feel. I Hope in the future to one day meet you on the court as well.

Good luck in all your training and One Day we will meet on the court ^__^:D:D:D:D

Let us Prove that hardwork and determination is all that anyone needs =]

--Ryan

ive got the same problem here man, thanks a lot for starting this thread, its quite an appropriate one :). well i don't think ill make it to international teams, but im aiming for regional ones right now. i think im progressing pretty good considering that i only started playing at the beginning of this year. i started way too late.
lol i cant even afford the one hour of coaching:o, cos i dont want to ask parents the money for it. i play atleast three days a week, 2hrs each day.
also, im on a comeback from a wrist stress injury so i need to get my touch back and all that. but usually i watch lots of videos and do lots of running. i also keep moving my wrist around all the time, helps quite a lot.
but as some people in this thread have already said so, we have to make the best out of what we have. if you are really that serious about it, you'll think of something, don't worry.
good luck, keep us posted about your progress :)

Cool ... i hav a kinda same prb like u too.. but the only diff is i started to play when i was young and my game started to develop when i was 13 and 14. but i stopped playing since then bcoz my dad wanted me to concentrate on my studies than my game.. too bad... but i did play with my frens casually instead of attending those long hours of practise.. but still my dad.. haha.. asked not to play too much badminton.. till i played less than b4 even though with my frens. i came to nz early feb this year (03.02.06). since i was still new here .. i then found out an ver interesting club to join which is Indonesia Badminton Club of New Zealand (IBNZ). this club is resgistered under North Harbour Association. this is also a prvate club as it only hav limited number of members. I've learnt a lot and improve quite alot since i joined this club and also restored qat i've learnt b4... :) since im going back to Malaysia in the end of november, im gonna look for a coach to improve my game during the summer holidays in m'sia.

Anyway Nikchan... which part of AUckland are u from..?

i happen to know a guy that self trained and beat the country top single .. he used to train very very hard for his physical condition ... running everyday up hills and down hills for 5km for stamina building ... and play badminton all day long whenever there is time ... by the age in his 20's he is very well known and eventually beat Misbun Sidek ... if u know who is misbun ... although later on misbun beat him back the next time round ... this guy is my hero... period !!! he is my father ... a self trained "natural athlete" ... althou tat time there were an invitation for him to join the national squad .. he did not grab it as there were no sponsor were available and all expense is paid urself (imagine that !) no BAM or any academy known that time it was in the late 70's - early 80's ... so instead he choose career instead of sport and not sport as a career .... i know how he trained and there were NO COACH at all ! he is very very very fit in term of physical and mental strengh... he went on to represent state in soccer n hockey thou hehehe
the moral of the story for me is always believe in urself, learn to correct ur own mistake and by all means TRAIN HARD u know ur limit and u know how to go further with it !

No doubt that self training can really bring great results, but add coaching to that, that can make much diferrence. In any kind of sports you need someone who can stand behind you and observe objectively how you play, the coach may not be a better player but he can see what you can't see, coach can better motivate us and help us imrove our strategy. Since badminton is a high impact sports, coaching is very crucial. As I said, they maybe not better players but their experiences are invaluable. Even if we perceive great atheletes to be a "natural atheletes" , still the fact remains that they too TRAIN VERY VERY HARD and are always being supervised under the guidance of a coach. Actually self-training really comes after coaching, thats inevitable. I have been lucky to have a coach free of charge. We would always discuss techniques and mental agility a lot and do drills for less than an hour, and apply it in actual games.He would then strongly encouraged me to do regular routine of OFF-COURT conditioning. So thats the point where you are being self-trained. My coach is a crafty veteran and if i could only post his picture, you might laugh at his appearance ( he always seemed like playing for basketball than badminton because of what he wears)

in simple terms i agree to ... its not what u want but how bad u want it ....

heya dimitri, i live in new lynn. ive given badminton a break for about 2 months now, had a wrist stress injury, so taking rest. also my school exams are on from this monday so studying...

we have an indian association here, and they got a state player from india. they are starting a club in the beginning of december, and the guy is gonna give free coaching to seniors and juniors alike... thank god for this opportunity. hope ill make the best of it, im only just realising the full advantages of coaching..

my brother recently made it into the Auckland U-14 development squad, and recieves bloody cheap coaching every friday from national team players. i go sometimes and watch him... wishing all the time that i was in his place... well my time's gonna come.

looking forward to sharing more stuff with you guys. dimitri, i cant say ive ever heard of ur club.. i play for lynndale club. where are you in auckland, and where is ur club?

hi nickchan ... im staying in north shore..and the obviously the clubs i joined r in north shore. we play in north harbour badminton court as tht's the only badminton court in north shore. th court is istuated in forest hill.

Oliver,

I know how you feel. I just recently picked up the game a little more than a year ago. And im at the moment 16. So, Im in my senior year of high school. My Coach, Phu Khuu of Bintang Badminton Academy, inspired me so much by telling me anything is possible if you just put your mind into it. SO i did! I gave him my trust and my future.

Let us Prove that hardwork and determination is all that anyone needs =]

--Ryan

Ryan, I like the last sentence so much!!! Anything can happen if you're willing to do so, no doubt!!! Ryan, I think I've seen you on court before, :cool: it's great that you can train 8 hours a day:rolleyes: I love to do that but I just don't get enough time:p . (approximately I am training 4+ hrs a day, 7 days/week at UnitedBadmintonClub for little bit less than a year now) My coach Zhou Lei has encouraged/supported me a lot, besides physical/technical training, she constantly shared/me the road to her proessional career; what amount of hard works spent to achieve her world champion title; given me tons of great experiences that I couldn't seek for elsewhere! I also have the same goal with you that is to become a professional one day and the champion in U.S. I guess from now on I have to increase my hours on training otherwise next time when I meet you on court, I may lose badly:D :D

Let's all work hard and achieve our goals together!!

Heng

nothing is impossible in this world. I read Eddy Choong's article and it says: if you want to be a school champion, you have to spend 1 hour x 3 session per week to train.
To be a state champion, it takes 5 hours x 4 session per week. To be a national champion, it takes 6 hours x 5 session per week. and to be world champion, you have to spend even more time for the training.

yes this is all very well and good and i'm well aware that if i spend X amount of hours on court then i stand a good chance of being a top player some day

but of course this comes at cost of around $40 NZ dollars an hour now if people are saying that i should be on court for 5 hours 5times a week then that works out to be $200 NZ dollars a day and $1000 NZ dollars a week so thats $52,000 a year and with the average wage being $25,000 NZ dollars and me being a poor student oddly i cant afford to become a pro the easiest way so that was why I started this thread to find out if anyone had some loop holes to becoming a Pro player

P.S i would appreciate if people didn't HI-JACK my thread thank you

yes this is all very well and good and i'm well aware that if i spend X amount of hours on court then i stand a good chance of being a top player some day

but of course this comes at cost of around $40 NZ dollars an hour now if people are saying that i should be on court for 5 hours 5times a week then that works out to be $200 NZ dollars a day and $1000 NZ dollars a week so thats $52,000 a year and with the average wage being $25,000 NZ dollars and me being a poor student oddly i cant afford to become a pro the easiest way so that was why I started this thread to find out if anyone had some loop holes to becoming a Pro player

P.S i would appreciate if people didn't HI-JACK my thread thank you

There is no easy route to becoming a pro player. It may amount to lots of dollars and lots of pain to endure during practice, but nevertheless self fulfilling. You have to invest money, time and patience if you want to achive your goals. But remember, you've got to get fit to play badminton rather than play it to get fit. Lack of money is not a reason not to pursue your dreams, its a matter of how creative you are in finding ways. If I were you, try to do OFFCOURT conditioning , to include, biking, running or jogging or marathon or any activities that can help improve your stamina and legwork. , Then if you already have a decent raquet, pick up at least 3 shuutle and do some walling for 15 to 30 min every other day, this exercise will improve your wrist power and eye coordination. Then do some aerobics at the comfort of your home, lets say 1 hr a week to improve agility. then insert light weight training or preventive strength training to avoid injuries, you dont need to lift too much pounds but you will have to increase repetitions per sessions, for example, i do calf raising 3 sets of 20 with a weights around my waist, so i can improve my jump smash.
You can create your own workout routine, design them like a game, do them religiusly, and take note, these are just examples of offcourt conditioning. You can also regulary watch videos of pros playing, take some video instructions, watch local competitions. etc
You can also do your footwork exercises or shadow drills at the comfort of your own home or garden.
There are so many posibilities even if you are poor. Dont make being poor as an excuse..If you reaaly want to afford coaching fees, then try saving money little by little on a daily basis. Doing offcourt conditioning can reaaly bring great results. All you have to realize is that you have to embrace POSSIBILITY THINKING.
Hope to see you guys on court!

it gave me great pleasure to read your post for at the moment i am already doing alot of off court activities like i am running daily i do alot of biking (simply because i enjoy it) and i do heaps of footwork drills (NZ has alot of open fields) and i even bought myself a badders net so i could practise returning simple shots like blocks

i think the only thing i'm not doing is watching pros on video and doing wieghts but i can assure you i am if i dare say so myself in excellane physical shape but what i am lacking is time ON court if only i can get this sorted i will well on my way to achieving my dream

for the on court situation i have asked around so see if anything is happening over the summer (yes its summer in the southern hemisphere) and i have got myself involved in some summer clubs and i have also implemented a suggestion on hear of doing my coaching badges so for the next seaon (around March) i will be helping out some juniors which will improve my basic shots

but as many true badders players know you never want to leave court which is why i kept this thread open just incase anyone has any further ideas

it gave me great pleasure to read your post for at the moment i am already doing alot of off court activities like i am running daily i do alot of biking (simply because i enjoy it) and i do heaps of footwork drills (NZ has alot of open fields) and i even bought myself a badders net so i could practise returning simple shots like blocks

i think the only thing i'm not doing is watching pros on video and doing wieghts but i can assure you i am if i dare say so myself in excellane physical shape but what i am lacking is time ON court if only i can get this sorted i will well on my way to achieving my dream

for the on court situation i have asked around so see if anything is happening over the summer (yes its summer in the southern hemisphere) and i have got myself involved in some summer clubs and i have also implemented a suggestion on hear of doing my coaching badges so for the next seaon (around March) i will be helping out some juniors which will improve my basic shots

but as many true badders players know you never want to leave court which is why i kept this thread open just incase anyone has any further ideas

You should get hold of some Chinese dvds or vcds on the techniques and fundamentals of badminton. They teach you the way and techniques the Chinese national players play. Although you may not understand Mandarin you will get the big picture.
For example they explain the 3 ways of imparting power unto your strokes and 6 ways of using the wrist snap. Also explained are the complete footwork, the 3 variations of going foreward towards the net, 2 variations of covering low or flat shots on your sides, 2 variations of taking the shuttle high on your sides, 2 to 3 variations of footwork playing the around-your-head stroke, 3-4 variations of covering the extreme back forehand corner for low and high shots, and 2-3 variations of taking a backhand stroke. Also covered is how to handle and smash down a flick serve in doubles when standing near the front service line. Then they explain in great detail all the strokes, from how to serve, how to receive a serve, etc covering 7 hours. Also covered are the basic strategies/tactics (1 hour), physical training, injuries, and prevention of injuries (2 hours+).
With these knowledge your coaching sessions with your coach will become more productive.

When i do jumpsmash, i think of myself as Peter Gade or Lin Dan or sometimes Lee Chong Wei, when playing doubles, i imagine Tony Gumawan as my partner..by wathcing videos, u can absorb how they think and play esp during winning moment..You dont just admire them on tv but you are being inspired deep within, giving the idea that that your dream is definitely achievable..Taneepak is right! watching fundamentals lessons in dvd esp from chinese players like Zhao can be tagged along with your sessions.

I too wanna be a good badminton player. i still have no badminton coach by i want a coach to train me. i'm still not good even when smashing. i can't make it a drop-shot. and i can't control wheather my hit should not be too high so that the opppnent will not be able to smash. maybe u can help le with this..

I'm Zhi Wei, 17 this year...currently a player representing school !!! I got a dream of becoming a national player just like all of u here, but my dreams are always objected by my parents !!! they go against me, ask me to focus more on studies, but somehow my studies are not that good either, so i would want to give a try on my luck !!!

Currently i train once a week, 2 hrs, In schools i play around 4 hrs, and dis year, i managed to achieve Doubles Champion in school...started playing badminton at the age of 14...

Can i still make it??? Can i?? I been doing all these physical exercise, shadows footwork and shuttle drills against the wall everyday, but currently due to some MAJOR EXAMs, i was unable to resume my normal training sessions...until December...is it possible for me to stil catch up???

Btw, Dimitri, How long will u be in Malaysia, if got chance i would like to have a match with u and gain some advice and experience from u...

it's all about politics if you want to go pro...you gotta know people...gotta have connections...gotta have the dough....it's really tough in fact, for a regular person to make the jump....now it's not utterly impossible...it's more improbable...for someone to get all the money through sponsors, through working or anymeans....to count all the travel costs and tournament costs....coaching costs, court costs...food, living arrangements...and even when you do make it...the lifestyle is probably something you wouldn't expect...to earn less than you spend...to have little to no recognition beyond your own city etc...it's a tough life, even though you aspire to be it...maybe deep down, you're just looking to have recognition or fame, and that too comes with connections...there are only a handful of people that ever get to live this lifestyle...and it's hard for someone to say it, maybe even depressing, but sometimes it's time to face reality and see how utterly impossible it is...now i'm not saying give up...hell, i'm not giving up and i'm still training with bad knees a wrecked wrist and limited resources and going to university at the same time...but there comes a time when you have to realize how hard it actually is, even in a non-traditional badminton country...you'll be suprised at how many other people in your region/country that strive for the same...but good luck! and i hope you make it!

you didnt answer the question of are you either oliver pike or oli leyton-davies, cos if you are either of them, i have played you at either JB or CP haha

Erm...im malaysian???
Haha XD
well....nice to meet u guys...i know it will be living hard to be a national player...u sacrifice everything...everything, including time !!!
Well..at times sacrifices must be made to achieve something in life...thats why this world is so unfair...

I want to be a pro too.
I admit that I am a stupid and naive 16 year old. Aiming for crazy goals. I only started training the beginning of this year. I am a dreamer. I think I am crazy.
but just like anyone here, including ZhiWei, my msn friend, we hold on to this ambition. For me, everytime I considered giving up, a hunch told me to carry on. But hopefully with out burning passion we will make it.

well.. inever give up enev though my dad stopped (banned) me from badminton. But since i came to nz..hoho..i took this chance to develop my game..even though im not really a pro player..thanl god coz my coach gave me chances to play in some small open tourny here in nz..well he did gave me a chance to join quite a big 1.. the nz open, which was also my 1st international tourny i've ever join before. He said just enjoy the game, gain some experince, and learn from other players from overseas. I was supposed to play under nz..but im not a citizen here..so i ended up putting on a malaysian shirt. I'm happy enough to be in the last 32 as i got BYE in the 1st round.so basicly i was beaten in the 1st round by 1 talented jap player...with all my hardwork and by not giving up until my dad "gives up" coz he couldnt stop me anymore, i ended up like so......

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z270/dimitri87/DSC03886.jpg


so guys.. girls.. don give up..it doesnt matter when did u started to play..it's all about hardwork and conffidence :)

P/S : Im not really a good player(and also not an official m'sia player)..as u can u know from above..i was not allowed to play under nz..tht's good enough for so long i can enjoy and experience the feel of play in some tourny where some of my frens cheering for me and watch by some other audience.

well.. inever give up enev though my dad stopped (banned) me from badminton. But since i came to nz..hoho..i took this chance to develop my game..even though im not really a pro player..thanl god coz my coach gave me chances to play in some small open tourny here in nz..well he did gave me a chance to join quite a big 1.. the nz open, which was also my 1st international tourny i've ever join before. He said just enjoy the game, gain some experince, and learn from other players from overseas. I was supposed to play under nz..but im not a citizen here..so i ended up putting on a malaysian shirt. I'm happy enough to be in the last 32 as i got BYE in the 1st round.so basicly i was beaten in the 1st round by 1 talented jap player...with all my hardwork and by not giving up until my dad "gives up" coz he couldnt stop me anymore, i ended up like so......

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z270/dimitri87/DSC03886.jpg


so guys.. girls.. don give up..it doesnt matter when did u started to play..it's all about hardwork and conffidence :)

P/S : Im not really a good player(and also not an official m'sia player)..as u can u know from above..i was not allowed to play under nz..tht's good enough for so long i can enjoy and experience the feel of play in some tourny where some of my frens cheering for me and watch by some other audience.
hey, you took part in the NZ oPen is it?? in the draw i cant found your name.... here is the draw (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=14813&draw=11)

Hmm...its quite sensible...yy_ling, i guess its not time to give up eventhough we are so old...the thing we need now is really the hard work and effort to catch up with the pro's !!!
The days are still long...so we must try hard !!!
Thx to u Dimitri, btw u coming back to Malaysia for further studies or extra training??

hey, you took part in the NZ oPen is it?? in the draw i cant found your name.... here is the draw (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=14813&draw=11)

hehe..tht was bcoz im not registered in IBF (same as the jap guy who beat me..who was gonna play for nz but he has gone back to jp).. :) My coach did something to put me into the tourny (or should i say..somthing naughty?) :p

Hmm...its quite sensible...yy_ling, i guess its not time to give up eventhough we are so old...the thing we need now is really the hard work and effort to catch up with the pro's !!!
The days are still long...so we must try hard !!!
Thx to u Dimitri, btw u coming back to Malaysia for further studies or extra training??

erm..holidays maybe..? hehe..need to wait for the reply from uni..i'm looking forward to train in klrc if possible..hehe..:)

LOL...dimitri, i hope we will meet someday, but with my skills, i think i'm a trash to u, but i will give my best !!!
Hope i can learn some tips and skills from u too...or maybe some strategies and tactics on court...

LOL...dimitri, i hope we will meet someday, but with my skills, i think i'm a trash to u, but i will give my best !!!
Hope i can learn some tips and skills from u too...or maybe some strategies and tactics on court...

Haha..dont put too much expectation on me man..~ and also don call urelf a trash too..every1 has their weaknesses includding me..we can share our ideas together at the same time. Whcih part of selangor are u from ?

PEtaling Jaya....u know where???
Then more detailed in Damansara Jaya...hope u can share with me dude...
ok...gtg signing off from here, btw before u go, do u have msn??

yup yup ....
i know where is pj.. i'll send u a private msg

PEtaling Jaya....u know where???
Then more detailed in Damansara Jaya...hope u can share with me dude...
ok...gtg signing off from here, btw before u go, do u have msn??


Sad zhiwei I cannot go and spar with you guys. But Im at a pathetic level, at least to me I think my level is trash.

I guess im trash too...we are super lousy dudes !!!
Haha...and this thread is pro players thread...=P

well.. inever give up enev though my dad stopped (banned) me from badminton. But since i came to nz..hoho..i took this chance to develop my game..even though im not really a pro player..thanl god coz my coach gave me chances to play in some small open tourny here in nz..well he did gave me a chance to join quite a big 1.. the nz open, which was also my 1st international tourny i've ever join before. He said just enjoy the game, gain some experince, and learn from other players from overseas. I was supposed to play under nz..but im not a citizen here..so i ended up putting on a malaysian shirt. I'm happy enough to be in the last 32 as i got BYE in the 1st round.so basicly i was beaten in the 1st round by 1 talented jap player...with all my hardwork and by not giving up until my dad "gives up" coz he couldnt stop me anymore, i ended up like so......

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z270/dimitri87/DSC03886.jpg


so guys.. girls.. don give up..it doesnt matter when did u started to play..it's all about hardwork and conffidence :)

P/S : Im not really a good player(and also not an official m'sia player)..as u can u know from above..i was not allowed to play under nz..tht's good enough for so long i can enjoy and experience the feel of play in some tourny where some of my frens cheering for me and watch by some other audience.

nice jersey though, was the letters made by yonex or you did it?

nice jersey though, was the letters made by yonex or you did it?

I did not do it..my coach sort it out for me as he knows some yonex agent in nz (most important thing tht it's FOC :p) and i wouldnt spend money here in nz to buy any badminton things..so i also wouldnt buy a YY shirt which costs a lot of $$$ than in m'sia..and the print job which also costs quite a lot (not sure how much) and everything here is damn expensive for me.. :)

I guess im trash too...we are super lousy dudes !!!
Haha...and this thread is pro players thread...=P

im a lousy dude too :p

LOL...how much malaysia normally sell those yonex shirts??
And u plan to train at KLRC???
Do they offer training?? But majority or most of the KLRC's are all NZ players...

im not so sure man..i got a yonex shirt from malaysia for like rm40 ..? and the other 1 was from a stock cleareance sale which was only rm25 :p here in nz the cheapest yonex shirts which are the old and not really nice ones cost at east $45nzd (rm135) and the nice and new ones would cost from $55nzd to $65nzd (rm175-rm205)..u can get the same thing here in malaysia with a much more lower praice..e. my shb 98 rm350 in m'sia and in nz it cost rm600.. hohoho..see the difference?

Im not sure wheter klrc offers training or not..I need to ask either Sairul or Ismail about it..Ismail can help me out abt it. erm..not most of them are nz players.. they also have Andrew Smith and Nicholase Kidd from England.. Aji Basoki Sindoro who plays for aussie. AS far as i know there are 2 Nz players in klrc (John Moody and Rachel Hindley) The rest are malaysian. Andrew Smith trains in klrc.

LOl...andrew smith still train in KLRC??? I tot he's representing england...lol
can do such things??? Nvr knew...
btw, thats really a bigdiff...oh btw dimitri, ur SHB98 is very light right?? Speaking of ShB99LTD, i dunno whats the diff between these 2???
Can u tell me briefly bout it???
Oh u can try training at NUsa?? Misbun Sidek's training centre, but he's always not there cuz he have to train chong wei and hafiz..

yea..those non malaysian players in KLRC are still playing for their own country..they only train in KLRC... i never really tried to put on shb-99ltd before.i just tried it on but not on court ..according to the shop owner here in nz, if u have fatty sole, it's better for u to go for shb99 coz the base of the shoes is thicker..if u dont then go for shb98..

and yes.. shb 98 is very light..i have another pair of mizuno wave angle R1...which is lighter than shb98..but it's not as comfortable as shb98 coz it doesnt hav the power cushion thingy in it

I did thought about to rain in Nusa..but the thing is i don knw any1 there..so im afraid i couldnt socialise with them as im kinda quiet person

LOL...oh icic...hmm how bout Setia???
LOL...im currently using the SHB 99without power cushion(limited)...and ok la...but my coach say the one with power cushion is very comfortable...and i see many wearing SHB98...dunno why, due to its lightweight i guess...:D

hey dimitri u tot of training in nusa is that the misbun sidek club or something??? i'll be gng m'sia for training in jan 2008 i'll b either gng to the misbun sidek club or the kaleb badminton ast in sabah i am going there alone also:crying:

Hmmm i'll b gng there alone to train will feel abit strange:( & i'll b lonely there:(

which sabah club is it..?

i think is the kaleb badminton ast or something in kotakinabalu or something recommended by jug8man...

WAnna meet up???
Dim will meet me up...XInguy, u can give us a call...den we can arrange...