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nugroho
10-16-2006, 07:41 AM
good luck indonesia, since tony gunawan said he will focus on badminton in couple of years foward.

it was the statement given by tony gunawan after winning final in JO 06. He said, he will talk to his boss about that, but if he ned to choose, he will choose badminton. I hope it will be tony whom go back to indoneisa and rejoining PBSI. PBSI has try to contact him and ask him to go back to indonesia and give him some extra fasilities.

when it's come to happenend next year... indonesia can work a wonder on MD and try to get back thomas cup and might be sudirman cup aswell.

soo....
i hope it can be done as soon as possible....
huraaa!!!!

hara^kazuko
10-16-2006, 07:56 AM
Is it true that he is coming back to Indonesia? Great news indeed

nugroho
10-16-2006, 08:02 AM
source from www.internationalbadminton.org (http://www.internationalbadminton.org)
it was not confirm wether he will g back to indo or chandra will go to US but tony decided to play badminton for couples more years

Mr. HafizDK
10-16-2006, 09:19 AM
Well, Tony is actually playing in Denmark...
He is a part of the best team in Denmark, in this Badminton League. As you know, Roslin is also playing in this league with Lee thuen Seng and the best europeans, but it was a big surprise, that Tony came to Denmark...

nugroho
10-16-2006, 04:01 PM
Well, Tony is actually playing in Denmark...
He is a part of the best team in Denmark, in this Badminton League. As you know, Roslin is also playing in this league with Lee thuen Seng and the best europeans, but it was a big surprise, that Tony came to Denmark...
really?
how do you know that?

ctjcad
10-16-2006, 04:30 PM
really?
how do you know that?
..sorry to cut in, but if you want to know, please see this thread for more infos/news:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35259

Bobatea
10-16-2006, 06:54 PM
I wonder what Tony and Candra will do? I believe Tony is still planning on living in the States and that Candra is probably still planning on living in Indonesia, but they do need to practice together from time to time. I believe Candra said that they don't really need to practice together since they know each other so well, but they need to keep up their physical stamina. They'll probably continue with Tony representing the US and Candra representing Indonesia. Regardless, next year will be amazing in the Men's Doubles event because of the "return" of the legendary pair, and them ending up practicing together will only make the ultimate pair even stronger:cool: . They've already won the Indonesia, Korea, and Japan Open without pracitice. I feel sorry for all the other pairs now :o .

Mr. HafizDK
10-17-2006, 01:16 AM
really?
how do you know that?

Well, I'm from Denmark... And they show the league every round - last time with Tony playing with someone called Rasmus Mangor against Paaske/Mathias Boe - and he lost.

Sorry for the off topic!

Viper2005
10-17-2006, 01:43 AM
Maybe Tony has set a new trend the other countries will follow. Mix and match players from other countries.
Maybe Rasmussen/Bach is a winning combination????
or Sudket/Lee (Thai/Korean) pair can win?????

I wonder what Tony and Candra will do? I believe Tony is still planning on living in the States and that Candra is probably still planning on living in Indonesia, but they do need to practice together from time to time. I believe Candra said that they don't really need to practice together since they know each other so well, but they need to keep up their physical stamina. They'll probably continue with Tony representing the US and Candra representing Indonesia. Regardless, next year will be amazing in the Men's Doubles event because of the "return" of the legendary pair, and them ending up practicing together will only make the ultimate pair even stronger:cool: . They've already won the Indonesia, Korea, and Japan Open without pracitice. I feel sorry for all the other pairs now :o .

weeyet
10-17-2006, 04:28 AM
omg, they won it without pracitce??

weeyet
10-17-2006, 04:30 AM
Is Lee Tsuen Seng also playing in danish league??

Mr. HafizDK
10-17-2006, 07:00 AM
Is Lee Tsuen Seng also playing in danish league??

Yep, he is playing for the same club as Jonassen, M. Boe and Paaske - and Donna Kellog...
Zhang Wei played here for some years ago, and the other Hidayat is playing here also. There are some chinese girls also, but they are not that famous like Robertson/Emms, Hallam and all the danes.

Bobatea
10-17-2006, 10:27 AM
omg, they won it without pracitce??

Yeah, Tony and Candra really didn't practice at all (if there was any) before each tournament. Amazing isn't it :D ? They consider each other brothers so I guess it's understandable :rolleyes: .

Georgina
10-17-2006, 10:32 AM
Maybe Tony has set a new trend the other countries will follow. Mix and match players from other countries.
or Sudket/Lee (Thai/Korean) pair can win?????

SUDKET!!
:D
Although Tony and Chandra are representing different countries but they used to be under the same team!On top of that,they do not have any communication problems because they speak the same language and they know each other well.
Imagine Lee n Sudket....
:confused:

ye333
10-17-2006, 10:55 AM
So Tony finally realized that the level of MD is indeed lower now... :D Will Rexy consider playing again? He can pair up with CCM and create some major upset to current top MDs, and help KKK/TBH is major events getting rid of some opponents. :D

good luck indonesia, since tony gunawan said he will focus on badminton in couple of years foward.

it was the statement given by tony gunawan after winning final in JO 06. He said, he will talk to his boss about that, but if he ned to choose, he will choose badminton. I hope it will be tony whom go back to indoneisa and rejoining PBSI. PBSI has try to contact him and ask him to go back to indonesia and give him some extra fasilities.

when it's come to happenend next year... indonesia can work a wonder on MD and try to get back thomas cup and might be sudirman cup aswell.

soo....
i hope it can be done as soon as possible....
huraaa!!!!

taufik-ist
10-17-2006, 10:38 PM
tony will be back to indonesia soon :)

Inky2000
10-17-2006, 11:24 PM
Is a double combination representing two different countries eligible for World Championships??????

chickenpoodle
10-18-2006, 01:26 AM
no, if candra and gunawan wasn't eligible to participate in WC2006, as either for USA nor INA, why would a mix be allowed?

hcyong
10-18-2006, 04:59 AM
Yes, a mixed nationality doubles pair is allowed in the WC, but it would count as half for each country's participation. Thus, if Indonesia has 3 spots and Tony/Chandra are allowed to participate, then Indonesia can only field two more pairs (making up a total 2.5 spots).

ctjcad
10-18-2006, 12:13 PM
Yes, a mixed nationality doubles pair is allowed in the WC, but it would count as half for each country's participation. Thus, if Indonesia has 3 spots and Tony/Chandra are allowed to participate, then Indonesia can only field two more pairs (making up a total 2.5 spots).
ah, if that's so, then i can see a light at the end of the tunnel for Tony/Candra to compete in the WC next yr..Perhaps this yr they didn't qualify because they didn't have enough IBF/BWF points??..I mean if Dean Schoppe and Matt Fogerty(from the U.S.) can compete in the WC this yr, then, why can Tony/Candra??..:confused: :rolleyes: :p ;) :D :cool:
Another interesting thing is, since Candra is no longer in Pelatnas, is he still able to play and represent INA for the WC?? I thought the player must be somewhat part of the national team?? Can anyone explain this process or qualification??:)

Anyways, PBSI shouldn't a problem having 2.5 pairs ready for next yr's WC(the others should be Markis/Hendra and most like Alven/Luluk again, or maybe another pair)..:confused:

ricksakti
10-18-2006, 08:09 PM
No problemo for Pelatnas. Pelatnas also is a unpredictable of unstable organisation. What they want is only to win nothing more. If Chandra can contribute a gold, they will allow him to play regardless whom is his partner.

dropper
10-19-2006, 02:04 AM
Another interesting thing is, since Candra is no longer in Pelatnas, is he still able to play and represent INA for the WC?? I thought the player must be somewhat part of the national team?? Can anyone explain this process or qualification??:)

Anyways, PBSI shouldn't a problem having 2.5 pairs ready for next yr's WC(the others should be Markis/Hendra and most like Alven/Luluk again, or maybe another pair)..:confused:

Qualifying for Worlds is bit of a complex and confusing process; and IBF so far had not followed it completely either. The process is in the IBF Statutes which is in the IBF website. Off the top of my head it goes like this (pardon me if there is an error in this):

Total of sixty four pairs are selected based on the World Ranking of a pre defined date and the criteria identified. If any of the invited players decline their invitations then following the same process next eligible pairs are invited until 64 spots are filled or all the pairs in the world ranking list (entries) are exhausted.

(1) First, the top 8 pairs according to the World Ranking are considered. These eight pairs will be invited, except each country is allowed only 4 pairs.

2)After that, from world rank 9 to 24 are considered, and invitations are made to these pairs, but not to exceed 3 pairs from any one particular country. If there were three pairs in the top 8 then no further invitations will be made to the pairs from that country unless one of those pairs declines the IBF invitation, and they are eligible at step 5 if they get invited in step (5).

3)Then, the remaining spots upto 64 will be filled by considering pairs ranked from 25 to 150; except, now the number of pairs from each country can not exceed a total of 2. So if there were 2 pairs from one country were in the steps (1) or (2), no additional pairs from that country will be invited. [:eek: not a very good criteria; because the 2 pairs invited from a country may decline the invitations received, but the pairs below those 2 pairs from that country may not get an invitation if they are not lucky enough to survive until the step (5) of this process, although other pairs below them in the World Ranking list could be invited in the step (3) or in step (4) of this process]

4) If the 64 spots are not filled following the above 3 steps, then all the pairs from 25 all the way down to the last ranked pair is considered to fill the remaining spots, except now a maximum of 3 pairs can be invited from each country. So if you were a third pair from a country that did not receive an invitation during step (3), this pair is elegible to get an invitation in this step. (:confused: very confusing!!! )

5) This process should continue until all the eligible world ranked teams are exhausted (i.e., all the world ranked pairs have either declined or accepted the IBF invitations to take part in the Worlds) or the 64 spots are filled with accepted invitations. This is one of the steps the IBF had not been fulfilling, because as we all could see there were empty spots in the draw as "BYEs" while there were many athletes remaining with a world ranking who may have wanted to participate and who were eligible to get invited based on the IBF Statutes, but did not get an invitation because of the IBF's failure to provide a selection mechanism to comply with the statutes. The IBF used a three phase mechanism which had been a miserable failure in its compliance to the statutes to pick 64 pairs/players according to the player selection criteria to the Worlds that are in the IBF statutes.:eek: :confused: :eek:

By the way I agree with the postings which indicated, that the current process allows players from different countries to play as a pair but each country loses 1/2 a spot because of that.

dropper
10-19-2006, 02:21 AM
When a country loses 1/2 a spot for their entries to the Worlds, for all practical purposes that is a full spot, because it is highly unlikely that the same country will have another player playing with a player from a different country and that pair is invited to the Worlds by the IBF.

ctjcad
10-19-2006, 12:34 PM
By the way I agree with the postings which indicated, that the current process allows players from different countries to play as a pair but each country loses 1/2 a spot because of that.
dropper, appreciate for giving your explanation of the IBF/BWF WC Qualification process for rest of us not familiar with it..:cool:.
Yah, agree, hope for next yr's QC, BWF can allow Tony/Candra to play eventhough they represent different countries..Sorry for snipping rest of article for brevity, as i only scanned thru them to read. I will read them again to somehow digest it..hehe..But from what you wrote it's quite a complicated process indeed!:rolleyes: :eek: :p :D ;) ).