Greetings,

After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

I have just received this report.

Cheers... chris@ccc

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Indonesian Badminton names new coach for men's singles

The Indonesian Badminton Association has named a former world champion as the new men's singles coach replacing Joko Supriyanto.

Hendrawan, the world champion in 2001, said Monday he is ready to take his new job at the national training camp in Cipayung, East Jakarta.

"Big challenges are facing us ahead and I have been asked to make things better than today," said Hendrawan, who was previously the coach for female shuttlers.

"I will do my best," he said.

Meanwhile, Joko said he resigned from the national training camp and refused a new job to coach female players.

"I resigned because I didn't feel comfortable with my new job to coach women's singles," Joko was quoted by the national Antara news agency as saying.

Source: Xinhua

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[quote=chris@ccc]Greetings,

After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

I have just received this report.

Cheers... chris@ccc
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Yes, the news is true.

:eek: They are replacing Joko Suprianto? Wow! Any idea where he is going to work now?

looks like a sad state of affair for INA singles.
We got an blurry outlook response from hendrawan 'i'll do my best' and another coach (joko) who see job status (me me me) more important than helping his country (with pay). How ironic that hendrawan is still so patriotic to INA when he was a second class citizen for most of his life, denied of a visa until the dying minutes (literally) so he can fly out to play for indonesia in WC and then bring back a gold for INA.

Could you explain a bit about Hendrawan being 2nd class citizen? What does that mean? Indonesia has caste system like India or something?

looks like a sad state of affair for INA singles.
We got an blurry outlook response from hendrawan 'i'll do my best' and another coach (joko) who see job status (me me me) more important than helping his country (with pay). How ironic that hendrawan is still so patriotic to INA when he was a second class citizen for most of his life, denied of a visa until the dying minutes (literally) so he can fly out to play for indonesia in WC and then bring back a gold for INA.

Could you explain a bit about Hendrawan being 2nd class citizen? What does that mean? Indonesia has caste system like India or something?

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15738&highlight=Megawati+Sukarnoputri

please refrain from dwelling further into this topic, dont want the thread get closed:D Beside, it is mostly history now, i think things are improving:)

I was only praising hendrawan, for being a women team coach that no one wanted and now men coach position as a last resort.

Greetings,

After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

I have just received this report.

Cheers... chris@ccc

====== start report ======

Indonesian Badminton names new coach for men's singles

The Indonesian Badminton Association has named a former world champion as the new men's singles coach replacing Joko Supriyanto.

Hendrawan, the world champion in 2001, said Monday he is ready to take his new job at the national training camp in Cipayung, East Jakarta.

"Big challenges are facing us ahead and I have been asked to make things better than today," said Hendrawan, who was previously the coach for female shuttlers.

"I will do my best," he said.

Meanwhile, Joko said he resigned from the national training camp and refused a new job to coach female players.

"I resigned because I didn't feel comfortable with my new job to coach women's singles," Joko was quoted by the national Antara news agency as saying.

Source: Xinhua

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thx for sharing the news, chris@ccc...sounds interesting & i wonder which players will be under him ...I'm just wondering, who will take over his spot as the Women's Singles coach??..:confused: :rolleyes:

cooler ........ dun try to spread provocation here boss ........

looks like a sad state of affair for INA singles.
We got an blurry outlook response from hendrawan 'i'll do my best' and another coach (joko) who see job status (me me me) more important than helping his country (with pay). How ironic that hendrawan is still so patriotic to INA when he was a second class citizen for most of his life, denied of a visa until the dying minutes (literally) so he can fly out to play for indonesia in WC and then bring back a gold for INA.

that's old story ......... nowadays especially after this August 2006 (new citizen bill), all Indonesian-Chinese can use their own name into his/her Indonesia passport, also all Indonesians are allowed to have dual-citizenship till 18 years old (especially who was born at overseas), and after that should choose whether still want to be Indonesian or whatever.
I talked with many Indonesian-Chinese here in Singapore who hold Permanent Resident status and asked why they still hold Indonesian Passport eventhough has lived more than 1o-years, they said coz they love Indonesia.

you do not want this thread to be closed, but you yourself started by saying 2nd-class of Indonesian .........

to moderator, you have better close this thread ... thanks to cooler.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15738&highlight=Megawati+Sukarnoputri

please refrain from dwelling further into this topic, dont want the thread get closed:D Beside, it is mostly history now, i think things are improving:)
I was only praising hendrawan, for being a women team coach that no one wanted and now men coach position as a last resort.

thx for sharing the news, chris@ccc...sounds interesting & i wonder which players will be under him ...I'm just wondering, who will take over his spot as the Women's Singles coach??..:confused: :rolleyes:
another interesting thing is, based on this thread's heading, then i wonder how will Taufik's personal coach(Mulyo) feel abt Hendrawan joining the camp??..Specifically, what will Hendrawan's role be??..:rolleyes::confused:

[quote=chris@ccc]Greetings,

After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

I have just received this report.

Cheers... chris@ccc
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Yes, the news is true.

I think taufik's coach is mulyo handoyo......

so how come hendrawan will be helping taufik.......as we known taufik is "bad boy" he only want listen to his coach (mulyo)... he is like "golden boy" for national team.......even Icuk sugiarto (eks natioanl player) he had to argued.......imposible if taufik want to hendrawan as his coach.....

however, hendrawan's job is to replace joko's place as a coach.....
so I think he will be coaching for sony dwi kuncoro.....because joko had to coached him (sony) before......

[quote=chris@ccc]Greetings,

After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

I have just received this report.

Cheers... chris@ccc
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Yes, the news is true.
I think taufik's coach is mulyo handoyo......

so how come hendrawan will be helping taufik.......as we known taufik is "bad boy" he only want listen to his coach (mulyo)... he is like "golden boy" for national team.......even Icuk sugiarto (eks natioanl player) he had to argued.......imposible if taufik want to hendrawan as his coach.....

however, hendrawan's job is to replace joko's place as a coach.....
so I think he will be coaching for sony dwi kuncoro.....because joko had to coached him (sony) before......

..indra, babonimut or anyone else, please feel free to jump in and help with the translation..thanks in advance.;):):cool:
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Hendrawan Siap Tangani Tunggal Putra
Written by Antara News
Monday, 16 October 2006

Hendrawan Tertantang, Joko Jenuh, Tim inti Piala Sudirman ditentukan Juara
dunia 2001 Hendrawan mengaku siap melatih tunggal putra Pelatnas Cipayung, meski tugas tersebut dinilainya cukup berat karena ia dituntut memperbaiki prestasi.


"Ini sebuah tantangan bagi saya karena tuntutannya harus lebih baik dari sekarang," ujar Hendrawan di Jakarta, Senin.

Hendrawan yang selama ini melatih tunggal putri pelatnas, diminta untuk menangani tunggal putra sejak salah satu pelatih tunggal putra Joko Supriyanto mengundurkan diri, Sabtu (14/10) lalu.

"Saya akan coba semaksimal mungkin sampai 2008, karena sejak bersedia menangani tunggal putri pun hanya sampai 2008," kata Hendrawan yang mengaku agak berat meninggalkan para pemain tunggal putri.

"Memang sampai sekarang mereka (tunggal putri) belum mencapai prestasi yang spektakuler, namun paling tidak sudah ada peningkatan. Tetapi rencananya penanganan putri akan dilanjutkan oleh Sandiarto asisten saya, jadi tidak masalah. Tetapi semuanya masih menunggu SK (Surat Keputusan)," tambahnya.

Sementara itu saat dikonfirmasi atas penguduran dirinya, Joko Supriyanto mengatakan bahwa ia menyatakan mundur setelah ditawari untuk melatih tunggal putri.

"Saya mundur karena merasa kurang `sreg` dengan posisi baru saya, melatih tunggal putri. Jadi karena digeser kesitu saya memilih untuk istirahat dulu, sudah jenuh," jelas Joko.

Joko memperkirakan alasan ia digeser mungkin karena prestasi pemain tunggal putra yang ia latih, salah satunya Sony Dwi Kuncoro, tidak juga mengalami peningkatan.

"Sejak Sony prestasinya menurun karena cedera, bahkan tahun ini saja ia absen dari delapan turnamen besar, saya merasa menjadi `sasaran tembak`," katanya.

Usai pengunduran dirinya tersebut, Joko yang pernah membawa Taufik Hidayat menjadi juara Indonesia Terbuka dan Sony menjadi tigakali Juara Asia serta peraih medali perunggu Olimpiade Athena mengaku masih ingin beristirahat. "Belum ada rencana apa-apa," kata juara dunia 1993 itu.


Tim bayangan

Sementara itu, Ketua Sub Bidang Pelatnas PB PBSI Lius Pongoh menyampaikan pembentukan tim bayangan Piala Sudirman.

Tim bayangan yang dibentuk berdasarkan nominasi yang diumumkan Juli lalu itu terdiri atas 21 pemain diantaranya lima pemain tunggal, tiga putra (Taufik Hidayat, Sony Dwi Kuncoro, Simon Santoso), dan dua putri (Adrianti Firdasari dan Fransisca Ratnasari).

Dua pemain tunggal putri yang termasuk dalam nominasi, Pia Zebadiah dan Aprilia Yuswandari tidak termasuk dalam tim bayangan.

Sektor ganda putra juga mengalami perubahan, semula tiga pasangan yakni Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yuliano, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan dan Flandy Limpele/Sigit Budiarto masuk dalam nominasi, tetapi pada tim bayangan pasangan Flandy/Sigit digantikan Hendra AG/Joko Riyadi.

Perubahan juga terjadi pada ganda campuran yang semula menominasikan pasangan Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir dan Anggun Nugroho/Vita Marissa. Anggun/Vita akhirnya diganti oleh pasangan yang baru menjuarai Jepang Terbuka, Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa pada tim bayangan.

Seperti tunggal putra, sektor ganda putri yang semula menominasikan tiga pasangan tidak mengalami perubahan dengan pasangan Jo Novita/Greysia Polii, Lita Nurlita/Nathalia Poluakan dan Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nursugianti.

"Tim inti Piala Sudirman akan ditentukan Januari mendatang," ujar Lius.

Kejuaraan dunia beregu campuran Piala Sudirman akan digelar di Glasgow, Skotlandia pada 10-17 Juni 2007.(*)

..again indra, babonimut or anyone else, please feel free to do the translation..there's some very interesting points in the article and in a way sort of proof the presence of politics-in-play...thanks in advance..;):):cool:
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Joko Berontak
Written by Jawa Pos
Monday, 16 October 2006

Tolak Latih Tunggal Wanita, Mundur dari Cipayung
Pelatnas Cipayung bergolak. Setelah pemain ganda pria Sigit Budiarto meninggalkan kawah candradimuka bulu tangkis tanah air tersebut, kemarin giliran pelatih tunggal pria, Joko Suprianto, yang melakukan keputusan serupa.


"Saya bukan lagi pelatih Pelatnas Cipayung, saya telah berhenti," kata Joko kepada Jawa Pos kemarin.

Kenapa Joko berhenti? Pria asal Solo, Jateng, itu merasa keberadaannya di Cipayung sengaja dipinggirkan beberapa rekannya sesama pelatih dan pengurus pelatnas. Tanpa alasan yang jelas dan pembicaraan lebih dulu, dalam pertemuan di kediaman Ketua Umum PBSI, Sutiyoso, Sabtu (15/10) malam lalu, dia tiba-tiba diputuskan melatih tunggal wanita.

"Kabid Binpres (Rudy Hartono, red) tidak pernah mengajak ngomong saya dalam masalah ini. Saya tidak bisa menerima keputusan tersebut, karena itu saya memutuskan berhenti," papar Joko.

Untuk mengisi posisi yang ditinggalkan Joko, Hendrawan, yang sebelumnya melatih tunggal wanita, akan digeser ke tunggal pria. Posisi Hendrawan akan digantikan asistennya Sandiarto.

Sejak menjadi pemain, Joko merasakan ada pergulatan kepentingan antarbeberapa kelompok di Pelatnas Cipayung. Ketika Icuk Sugiarto meninggalkan pelatnas sekitar setahun lalu untuk menjadi staf ahli Menpora, sejak saat itu Joko merasa karirnya di Cipayung hanya tinggal menunggu waktu. "Saya merasa sejak lama ditarget untuk meninggalkan Cipayung. Inilah puncaknya," aku Joko.

Sementara itu, Rudy menyatakan bahwa keputusan pemindahan Joko ke tunggal wanita dengan tujuan meningkatkan prestasi bulu tangkis tanah air. Selama ini, Joko dinilai kurang mampu melahirkan juara di tunggal pria.

"Dengan memberikan suasana baru di tunggal wanita, kami berharap Joko lebih baik. Eh, Joko malah mengundurkan diri. Kami tidak bisa menahannya karena dia mengaku jenuh," papar Rudy.

Namun, keputusan PBSI memindahkan Joko ke tunggal wanita menyisakan sedikit tanda tanya. Pada sektor yang tengah terpuruk seperti ganda wanita, seharusnya dibesut pelatih yang handal. Kalau selama ini Joko dinilai kurang sukses melahirkan juara, PBSI seharusnya memiliki pertimbangan kalau hal itu malah akan membuat tunggal wanita makin terpuruk.

Pemindahan Joko memang sedikit berbau "penggusuran". Seharusnya, PBSI berani mengambil sikap tegas memecat Joko jika memang dia dianggap tidak berprestasi. Sistem reward and punishment harus dilakukan secara transparan, agar setiap penghuni Pelatnas Cipayung memiliki tanggung jawab tinggi pada tugasnya.

Pengurus PBSI pun tidak seharusnya hanya pintar menuntut. Mereka harus lebih fokus dalam memberikan perhatian pada pelatih dan pemain pelatnas. Rudy yang paling bertanggung jawab pelatnas melahirkan juara, sangat jarang berkunjung ke pelatnas. Dalam satu bulan, belum tentu dia datang sekali ke sana. (ang)

Greetings,

After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

I have just received this report.

Cheers... chris@ccc

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Indonesian Badminton names new coach for men's singles

The Indonesian Badminton Association has named a former world champion as the new men's singles coach replacing Joko Supriyanto.

Hendrawan, the world champion in 2001, said Monday he is ready to take his new job at the national training camp in Cipayung, East Jakarta.

"Big challenges are facing us ahead and I have been asked to make things better than today," said Hendrawan, who was previously the coach for female shuttlers.

"I will do my best," he said.

Meanwhile, Joko said he resigned from the national training camp and refused a new job to coach female players.

"I resigned because I didn't feel comfortable with my new job to coach women's singles," Joko was quoted by the national Antara news agency as saying.

Source: Xinhua

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But i guess Mulyo will still be Taufik's coach ,right?

But i guess Mulyo will still be Taufik's coach ,right?

Hi kemana,

I think TH's dear friend and mentor Mulyo Handoyo would still be TH's closest personal advisor/coach.

But when TH plays in matches for Indonesia's PBSI glory, perhaps Hendrawan has more say.

But will TH listen to Hendrawan ??? :confused::confused::confused:.

Anyway, Hendrawan is to help all Indonesian Men Singles players to achieve/perform with better results.

Cheers... chris@ccc

..again indra, babonimut or anyone else, please feel free to do the translation..there's some very interesting points in the article and in a way sort of proof the presence of politics-in-play...thanks in advance..;):):cool:

As ctjcad asked...... we also hope that someone could translate Post#13 & #14 for us.

Cheers... chris@ccc

Coaches...Coaching...

You see how difficult it is to be a coach considered good by your trainees and your country!

Now even the amiable Joko, a great player during his time, is at a loss for words and has the vaguest idea what he is going to do next. But most probably he will still be involved in badminton.

I think what TH needs most is a specialist who can teach him how to strengthen his mental qualities, not particularly another top badminton player to teach him how to improve his playing skills.

Pray tell me, which player now can beat Taufik when he is in his right frame of mind?

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Hendrawan is ready to handle men's singles.
Written by Antara News
Translated by babonimut
Monday, 16 October 2006

Hendrawan challenged, Joko worn out, Sudirman Cup Key Team members formed

2001 World Champion Hendrawan said he was ready to coach men's singles at Indonesian centralised national Training Centre, Cipayung, even though the assignment was not easy as he was tasked to improve the performance in the Indonesian men's singles sector.

"This is a challenge for me as the main target is to be better than today," said hendrawan in Jakarta on Monday.

Hendrawan who was so far coaching Indonesian national ladies' singles, was asked to handle men's singles sector since one of the men's singles coaches, Joko Supriyanto resigned on last Saturday (14/10).

"I shall try my very best possibly till 2008, because previously I committed handling ladies' singles only till 2008," uttered Hendrawan who felt sad leaving the ladies' singles sector.

"Even though they (ladies' singles) have not reached satisfactory performance, they have already shown some promising improvement. My assistant, Sandiarto, will be taking over the ladies' singles sector, so there shouldn't be any problem. However, everything will be decided upon the official confirmation letter." He added.

Meantime, when queried over his resignation, Joko Supriyanto commented that he resigned after being offered to coach ladies' singles.

"I resigned because I don't feel comfortable with my new position, coaching ladies' singles. So, because of that I decided to unwind first, I felt worn out," explained Joko.

Joko guessed the reason of his reposition was mainly due to the current performance of his charges, one of them was Sony Dwi Kuncoro, did not show significant improvement.

"Since Sony's performance dropped due to injury and having to skip eight major tournaments, I feel being 'targetted'," Said Joko.

After his resignation, Joko who once brought up Taufik Hidayat to be Indonesia Open winner and Sony to be three-time Asian champion and Athens Olympic Bronze medallist, admitted he wanted to take a break. "No plan yet," said the 1993 world champion.

Shadow Team

Meanwhile, Indonesian Badminton Association's Chief of sub sector of National Training Centre, Lius Pongoh announced the formation of Sudirman Cup shadow team.

The team formation was based on the nomination announced on last July comprised of 21 players: five singles, 3 mens's singles (Taufik Hidayat, Sony Dwi Kuncoro, Simon Santoso), and 2 ladies' singles (Adrianti Firdasari dan Fransisca Ratnasari).

Two ladies' singles who were nominated, Pia Zebadiah dan Aprilia Yuswandari, were not included in the shadow team.

Mens' doubles sector also underwent changes. Three pairs, Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yuliano, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan and Flandy Limpele/Sigit Budiarto, were initially nominated, but Flandy/Sigit were replaced by Hendra AG/Joko Riyadi in the shadow team.

Changes also occurred in the mixed doubles sector which initially nominated Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir and Anggun Nugroho/Vita Marissa. Anggun/Vita were eventually replaced in the shadow team by the newly formed pair of Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa who had recently won Japan open.

Just like mens' singles, ladies' doubles sector initially nominated three pairs, Jo Novita/Greysia Polii, Lita Nurlita/Nathalia Poluakan and Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nursugianti, did not exerience any change.

"The Sudirman Cup key team would be determined in January," said Lius.

The Sudirman Cup mixed team events championship will be held at Glasgow, Scotland, on 10-17 June 2007.(babonimut)

Coaches...Coaching...

You see how difficult it is to be a coach considered good by your trainees and your country!

Now even the amiable Joko, a great player during his time, is at a loss for words and has the vaguest idea what he is going to do next. But most probably he will still be involved in badminton.

I think what TH needs most is a specialist who can teach him how to strengthen his mental qualities, not particularly another top badminton player to teach him how to improve his playing skills.

Pray tell me, which player now can beat Taufik when he is in his right frame of mind?
thx for your input, Loh...Hmm, but i thought that's why Taufik requested to PBSI to have Mulyo come back and be his coach again??..Didn't he win the Olympic Gold and WC with Mulyo as his coach/mentor/specialist??..Isn't that enough and what Taufik needs??..Or he's now "bored" with Mulyo and the way he coaches??..:confused: :rolleyes: ;)

thx for your input, Loh...Hmm, but i thought that's why Taufik requested to PBSI to have Mulyo come back and be his coach again??..Didn't he win the Olympic Gold and WC with Mulyo as his coach/mentor/specialist??..Isn't that enough and what Taufik needs??..Or he's now "bored" with Mulyo and the way he coaches??..:confused: :rolleyes: ;)

With due respect to Mulyo, he's no mental strength coach. Not professionally trained in sports psychology, there is a limit to what Mulyo can do.

As I've said TH needs help from a real professional specialist and he must be prepared to accept such a specialist as being able to assist him just as he is prepared to accept Mulyo. If TH thinks nobody else can help him except Mulyo, I'm afraid he will not progress very far from where he is now. :rolleyes:

With due respect to Mulyo, he's no mental strength coach. Not professionally trained in sports psychology, there is a limit to what Mulyo can do.

As I've said TH needs help from a real professional specialist and he must be prepared to accept such a specialist as being able to assist him just as he is prepared to accept Mulyo. If TH thinks nobody else can help him except Mulyo, I'm afraid he will not progress very far from where he is now. :rolleyes:
I think Mulyo is doing a great job! TH did reach final in JO.. which is still impressive.. Without him TH wouldn't have won in Athens and WC05..
Lets just wait and see what happen and hope for the best for PBSI... I need indo back into action or else badminton is just meaningless to watch... like PingPong I would say...

With due respect to Mulyo, he's no mental strength coach. Not professionally trained in sports psychology, there is a limit to what Mulyo can do.

As I've said TH needs help from a real professional specialist and he must be prepared to accept such a specialist as being able to assist him just as he is prepared to accept Mulyo. If TH thinks nobody else can help him except Mulyo, I'm afraid he will not progress very far from where he is now. :rolleyes:
hmm, so, do you think any other "real professional specialist" can *really* help Taufik??..Personally, i think it boils down to Taufik himself...Like Simp84 said above, if Taufik can win the OG and WC(with or withouth "luck") with Mulyo, why can't he do the same/continue his success now??..Is Mulyo's approach "outdated" or "useless" now??..Is Mulyo maybe not "pushing" Taufik anymore to maximize his potentials; instead defended Taufik by saying "he's won the OG and WC already, no need for TH to have any motivation to pursue or be burden with keep winning again etc2"..:confused: :rolleyes: ;)

BTW, babonimut, thanks for the translation.:).mind doing the other one also??..thx-;):cool:

A coach can only do so much. They have their limitation. Once you are a PRO. You are already equipped with whatever knowledge and skills to play on court. It all boils down to the player. But we also have to admit that we cannot win all the time. Definately there are players who are playing better than us that day.

Joko Rebelled
Written by Jawa Pos
Monday 16 October 2006
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Joko refused to handle Women's singles and resigned from Cipayung.


Cipayung National Training Centre heated up. After Men's doubles player Sigit Budiarto had resigned from that #1 National Badminton training centre, yesterday Men's singles coach Joko Suprianto did the same decision.

"I'm no longer Cipayung's coach, I have quitted", Joko said to Jawa Pos yesterday.

Why Joko quit? The man from Solo, Central Java, felt that his existence in Cipayung is marginalized by some of his fellow coaches and training centre officials. In a meeting at PBSI General Chief (Sutiyoso) office, without any clear reason and discussion before, Joko was suddenly being concluded to coach women's singles.

"The Head of Training and Achievements Sector (Rudy Hartono), never talked to me about this problem. I couldn't accept such decision, because of that, I chose to quit" Joko said.

To fill the empty position left by Joko, Hendrawan who previously mentored women's singles, will be switched to Men's Singles. Hendrawan's previous position will be replaced by his assistant, Sandiarto.

Ever since he was still an active player, Joko felt that there was a conflict of interest among some elites in Cipayung. When Icuk Sugiarto left the training centre some years ago to become a professional staff for National Sport Ministry, since that day, Joko had sensed his career in Cipayung would only need to wait for time to come.

"I had sensed it since long ago that I was targetted to quit Cipayung. This is the peak of that matter." Joko admitted.

Meanwhile, Rudy states that the decision regarding Joko's mutation to women's singles is purposedly to help raising the national badminton's achievements. All this time, Joko was marked incapable of producing champions in Men's Singles sector.

"By giving him a new atmosphere at women's singles, we hoped the better from Joko. But he just resigned instead. We couldn't force him because he had admitted that he was tired." Rudy explained.

However, PBSI decision regarding Joko's mutation to women's singles left a few questions. Currently in fallen sector like Women's Doubles, actually a competent coach should be hired. If Joko was marked less successful to produce champions all this time, actually PBSI should consider that such decision would only make Women's Doubles slumped even more.

Joko's mutation indeed seems a bit like "sweeping away". In fact, PBSI should dare to take a strict action to fire him if indeed he was assumed to have no achievements (as a coach). Reward system and punishment must be done transparently, so that every Cipayung inhabitants will have a big responsibility over their task.

Even PBSI officials shouldn't only be smart when complaining. They should be more focused in giving attention to coaches and players at training centre. Rudy who has the biggest responsibility to produce a champion, very rarely visits the training centre. In one month, it is not certain whether he would have a visit there.

Joko Rebelled
Written by Jawa Pos
Monday 16 October 2006
(translated by flikflak)
flikflak, thanks for doing the translation..;)

No worries. :o

The words in bold showed how people are really really unproffesional and nothing good comes from it.

Greetings,

Yes, we thank babonimut and flikflak for the translations.

It doesn't look like Cipayung is a happy place at the moment.

And in the China Open 2006, just hours ago;
Simon Santosa(ranked 22) narrowly lost his match to Lu Qi Cheng (CHN) 21-14, 19-21, 18-21, although
Taufik Hidayat had an easier win over Chan Io Chong (MAC, ranked 165) 21-15, 21-10.

Cheers... chris@ccc

Coaches...Coaching...

You see how difficult it is to be a coach considered good by your trainees and your country!

Now even the amiable Joko, a great player during his time, is at a loss for words and has the vaguest idea what he is going to do next. But most probably he will still be involved in badminton.

I think what TH needs most is a specialist who can teach him how to strengthen his mental qualities, not particularly another top badminton player to teach him how to improve his playing skills.

Pray tell me, which player now can beat Taufik when he is in his right frame of mind?

Umm... When he's in the right frame of mind, I only see LCW and LD as potential challenges...

i juz read frm kompas.com,tt hendrawan will b coaching taufik n simon.it was annouce by sutiyoso.Then how about mulyo will he still b coaching taufik.


http://www.kompas.com/ver1/Olahraga/0610/18/093724.htm

come on INA we are waiting to watch the best frm u guys like last time again.... hope either INA or MAS win the next TC.. win CHINA!!!

Change coach doesnt mean anything.... Rotten Cipayung...

don't know if mods want to move this thread to the Professional Players sub-forum??..:confused:

just in case any translation required, pls feel free to pm me. i'd be more than happy to try to help as much as i could. cheers...

just in case any translation required, pls feel free to pm me. i'd be more than happy to try to help as much as i could. cheers...
..we think you need to visit BC/BF more; not just on special request(translation).;).as it could be on first come first serve basis and we want to keep it open to anyone(that understands Indonesian, of course)..hehe;) :rolleyes: :) :D

just in case any translation required, pls feel free to pm me. i'd be more than happy to try to help as much as i could. cheers...

Hi babonimut,

Thanks... and could you please translate this 18-Oct-2006 Report for us? :):):)

Cheers... chris@ccc

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Sutiyoso: Saatnya Taufik Berubah

JAKARTA, RABU - Menyusul kegagalan pemain tunggal putra Indonesia, Taufik Hidayat, dalam turnamen Jepang Terbuka, Ketua Umum PB PBSI Sutiyoso menyatakan saatnya pemain andalan Indonesia itu berubah.

Dalam sebuah acara yang berlangsung di Jakarta, Selasa malam, Sutiyoso menyatakan perubahan itu harus dilakukan melalui pembenahan kemampuan fisik yang memang selama ini selalu menjadi masalah utama Taufik Hidayat. "Saya tahu persis titik lemahnya dia itu ada di fisik. Kenapa? Karena kalau main hingga tiga set tidak pernah menang. Dia harus segera sadar kelemahan itu," katanya.

Dalam partai final Jepang Terbuka yang berlangsung Minggu (15/10), Taufik Hidayat kembali menyerah dari andalan China, Lin Dan, dalam pertarungan tiga set 16-21 21-16 21-3.

Skor pada set ketiga dimana Taufik tertinggal jauh juga menjadi perhatian Sutiyoso. "Taufik sebenarnya unggul teknik, namun kalau sudah terkait fisik kan susah. Terbukti dari set penentuan dia tertinggal sedemikian jauh," ungkap Sutiyoso.

Sementara tentang pembenahan untuk sektor tunggal putra, PB PBSI telah melakukan pergantian pelatih yang menangani sejumlah pemain. "Untuk pelatih, Joko Supriyanto akan saya geser dan diganti oleh Hendrawan dan akan saya suruh melatih Simon dan Taufik, karena dua pemain itu belum ada kemajuan," tutur Sutiyoso.

Sumber: Antara
Penulis: Ima

====== end report ======

Sutiyoso: It's time for Taufik to change

Jakarta, Wednesday - Following Indonesian men's single failure, Taufik Hidayat, in Japan Open, Chief of Indonesian Badminton Association Sutiyoso stated that it was time for the top Indonesian player to change.

In a function held at Jakarta on Tuesday evening, Sutiyoso said the change had to be realised through the improvement in stamina which has always been the main problem for Taufik Hidayat. "I know very well his main weakness point is his stamina. Why? Because if the game stretches to 3 sets he never won. He must fully realise his weakness," said Sutiyoso.

In the final of Japan open on Sunday (15/10), Taufik Hidayat fell to Lin Dan, the top seeded player of China in 3 sets 16-21 21-16 21-3.

The third set's score line where Taufik was left way far behind has also been the focus of Sutiyoso's concern. "Taufik is actually stronger technically, but when it comes stamina he falters. This is evident from the deciding game where he was left so far behind," Sutiyoso revealed.

In he mean time, Indonesian Badminton Association has restructured coaches who handled several players to improve the men's singles sector. "For coach, I will replace Joko Supriyanto with Hendrawan and I shall instruct Hendrawan to train Simon and Taufik, because those two players have not shown significant improvement," uttered Sutiyoso.

Source: Antara
Writer: Ima
Translated by babonimut

Sutiyoso: It's time for Taufik to change
Source: Antara
Writer: Ima
Translated by babonimut
babonimut, thx for doing the translation(rest of translation snipped for brevity)...you should visit this forum as well, in case there's a need for doing translation(s)..;):rolleyes: :) :D :cool:

BTW, thx chris@ccc for bringing the article(all the way from another thread) into this thread so babonimut could translate for us...;)

babonimut, thx for doing the translation(rest of translation snipped for brevity)...you should visit this forum as well, in case there's a need for doing translation(s)..;):rolleyes: :) :D :cool:

BTW, thx chris@ccc for bringing the article(all the way from another thread) into this thread so babonimut could translate for us...;)


Hi ctjcad,

No, the article was from Post#30 of this thread posted by taufik 4eva. It's from kompas.com
Link = http://www.kompas.com/ver1/Olahraga/0610/18/093724.htm

We want to thank babonimut again for the translations. :):):)

Cheers... chris@ccc

no problem, dudes.. any time.. :)