2006 China Open: Why Lin Dan Lost?

[DoublesPlayer]

Why Lin Dan lost?

1. XXF lost, LD doesn't want to win alone :)
2. He's burnt out, playing in too many tournaments lately
3. He wanted to give BCL a chance to win
4. All Chinese Semifinals didn't excite him
5. He's tired? He almost didn't smash at all in the third set, not the full power smash
6. He wanted to show that he can do what Taufik did to him in JO final, too :)

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[badMania]

Can u guys stop starting this kinda thread?

It's boring and does not make any sense :cool:

[ronk]

Lin Dan lost because he did not win. Had Lin Dan won, he would not have lost. Therefore, the reason Lin Dan lost is simple because he did not win. So by not winning, Lin Dan lost.

[freelast]

Lin Dan is overloaded with winning. So he needs unload the burden, and get good rest.

[phaarix]

Lin Dan lost because he did not win. Had Lin Dan won, he would not have lost. Therefore, the reason Lin Dan lost is simple because he did not win. So, the reason Lin Dan lost is plain and simply because he did not win.

I completely agree and couldn't have said it better :).

[woodenRacket]

thread pop up as expected, haha

[*izzyC*]

wow, I think this is the first 'Why Lin Dan lost?' thread, no?

[woodenRacket]

Lin Dan lost because he did not win. Had Lin Dan won, he would not have lost. Therefore, the reason Lin Dan lost is simple because he did not win. So by not winning, Lin Dan lost.

excellent enough to be set up as template for all applicable players :D

[phaarix]

wow, I think this is the first 'Why Lin Dan lost?' thread, no?

Well if anything it's symbollic of Lin Dan's new and well earnt fame and reputation :p.

[DinkAlot]

Why ask why? Bud Dry. And I don't even drink. :rolleyes:

[woodenRacket]

not mean to disrespect Bao or LD, i like them all.
and no intention to find excuses for LD's lost as some Taufik fans do, but i really doubt that LD lose it intentioanlly. engine just stopped when leading 17:9 all of a sudden, and unforced errors tripled.
no harm to LD if lose in CO when china already secured the champion. but a victory to Bao means a lot: confidence, IBF points, rank.
actually i should not speak out like this to ruin a good will. if Bao grows up and china team becomes more powerful.

[rhinovinda]

Hahahaha.....finally this thread appears. Ive been waiting for this.

Lin Dan lost because nowadays there is a mentality traumatiscm of playing 3rd set for all the top guns in the new rally scoring system. 3rd set can bring darkside to the Top Gun players due to they cannot settle the 2nd set. Victims have been already Taufik and Lin Dan so far. Perhaps Chen Hong can also be inserted during WC2006 semifinal.:D

[sugar_free]

Why does everybody mind about this? Bao is the one who beat the 1st seed Lin Dan in the world junior championship 6 years ago, and now he did it again in China Open... There's nothing wrong about this...

[sickgal]

is this thread opened by TH's fans?? so that u all can have a good nite sleep..hehe

[hara^kazuko]

But there is always the question if Lin Dan was doing it intentionally...

[IndoBOLEHH]

Why Lin Dan lost?

1. XXF lost, LD doesn't want to win alone :)
2. He's burnt out, playing in too many tournaments lately
3. He wanted to give BCL a chance to win
4. All Chinese Semifinals didn't excite him
5. He's tired? He almost didn't smash at all in the third set, not the full power smash
6. He wanted to show that he can do what Taufik did to him in JO final, too :)

... because he is just a human not machine...:D:D:D
Please we better stop this kind of thread...

[Qidong]

There are 26 tournments in under the "2006 Tournments" tab. Let say there are 32 players/teams in each of the 5 categories. That means there are 31 x 5 x 26 players/teams got eleminated. So there can be 4030 "Why XYZ lost" threads. If this kind of threads continues, Kwan will need a new hard disk every year. :D

[erin_hakkinen]

Can u guys stop starting this kinda thread?

It's boring and does not make any sense :cool:

yeah. Everytime this kinda thread appear i go "oh dear..here it goes again.." :o

[sickgal]

But there is always the question if Lin Dan was doing it intentionally...

then the better asnwer would be 'ask god'...even if some1 asks LD bout this question, whatever asnwer that he gives also will be doubted by everyone..

[sshuang90]

Lin Dan lost because he did not win. Had Lin Dan won, he would not have lost. Therefore, the reason Lin Dan lost is simple because he did not win. So by not winning, Lin Dan lost.
Logically, not winning equals a loss, which is the result not a reason.

[ctjcad]

...left now for us to wonder/see is to see if this thread has the same "stamina" to go as far as its other twin-thread, the "Why Taufik Lost?" thread...hehehe:rolleyes: :p ;) :) :D

[DoublesPlayer]

In my opinion from looking at how Lin Dan played in semi against Bao, that was not the usual Lin Dan's game, he never lost so many points so easily like in the second set, and he never just gave up the game like in the third set. It's probably not intentional that he gave up the game, but he did not want to win for sure.

[DoublesPlayer]

I should change the title to

Why Lin Dan Did Not Want to Win???

I wouldn't mind watching all Chinese finals, or all Chinese semifinals, but not like this one, this match between Lin Dan and Bao Chun Lai WAS BORING :eek: :mad: :rolleyes: :p ;)

It was so much different compared to Zhang Ning vs. Xie Xin Fang match in 2006 Japan Open final, you could see that they both wanted to win, they played serious match, it's entertaining, and it's appreciated by us, the public.

[ants]

LinDans lost is a disguise. :)

[DoublesPlayer]

Watch this 3rd set between Lin Dan and Bao Chun Lai

http://www.sendspace.com/file/djppcw

If anyone can tell me that this is not a disguise, I would really appreciate it.

I'm a fan of Lin Dan, even though I'm not from China. The very first time I saw the way he plays, I was very impressed, he's super fast, deceptive, and strong. To me, he is equal to Yang Yang and Zhao Zian Hua.

[Beemer]

So anyone has the result of the game? I'm kind of late in the game. :)

[cooler]

- coz LD is a generous man. He can spare a few titles for his countrymen:D
-TH wasn't there, beating fellow countrymen doesn't taste as sweet anymore:p
- dun wanna risk wear and tear or injury going into asian games. TH said he want to win this one, LD wanna makes sure that doesn't happen:D So LD is saving his ammos :)

[DoublesPlayer]

All rational points, Lin Dan just won 2 titles in WC and JO, he’s bored of winning and needs more challenge. I can’t believe that they will be playing at the World Cup next week, what a weird events schedule. When can they practice and rest? I feel bad for them ...


- coz LD is a generous man. He can spare a few titles for his countrymen:D
-TH wasn't there, beating fellow countrymen doesn't taste as sweet anymore:p
- dun wanna risk wear and tear or injury going into asian games. TH said he want to win this one, LD wanna makes sure that doesn't happen:D So LD is saving his ammos :)

[DoublesPlayer]

http://www.gzba.org/china_open2006/china_open.asp

Or, look under CO Semi thread


So anyone has the result of the game? I'm kind of late in the game. :)

[cooler]

All rational points, Lin Dan just won 2 titles in WC and JO, he’s bored of winning and needs more challenge. I can’t believe that they will be playing at the World Cup next week, what a weird events schedule. When can they practice and rest? I feel bad for them ...
Prolly the biggest reasons of all is:

XXF is out of CO open early, LD want to spend some quality time with her outside of badminton training schedule.

[Baderz_Jas]

...left now for us to wonder/see is to see if this thread has the same "stamina" to go as far as its other twin-thread, the "Why Taufik Lost?" thread...hehehe:rolleyes: :p ;) :) :D

I don't think so because that's not that much reasons :p ;) :D

[Baderz_Jas]

I don't think so because that's not that much reasons :p ;) :D

and no arguing :D :p yeah, we shoud stop these threads ;) :)

[cooler]

and no arguing :D :p yeah, we shoud stop these threads ;) :)it's no worst than the guess who threads:D

[rlaurel_7]

Ive seen to much its getting old

first was Why LCW lost
Then Why Taufik Lost
Etc.

boring, useless, pointless

STOP!!

[rlaurel_7]

Im sure if you listen to the commentator the girl with the strong accent she seems to know alot and i hear her voice in many tourneys. she should answer your question " Why Lin Dan lost". or watch the match again...

[Bbn]

Strange why all these silly "lost" threads are posted by Ina supporters,

why Msia Ah Qs dont post why WMC, LCW & Hafiz lost?

We are slowly losing ground to our brother Ina, Malaysia Boleh!

[hydrocyanic]

Prolly the biggest reasons of all is:

XXF is out of CO open early, LD want to spend some quality time with her outside of badminton training schedule.
most sounded reason out of all those "why ____ lost?" thread

or, it is because XXF has been tiring LD out before the match, lol

if i am LD, i would

would you? :)

[erin_hakkinen]

it's no worst than the guess who threads:D

At least the guess who threads are kinda fun :p

[cooler]

most sounded reason out of all those "why ____ lost?" thread

or, it is because XXF has been tiring LD out before the match, lol

if i am LD, i would

would you? :)
;) xxf is exhausted after JO;)

BCL was done after first round at JO, BCL is very energized coming into the china open.

[cooler]

At least the guess who threads are kinda fun :pfun is a relative state of mind:D

[ssuly]

because he is just a human not machine...:D:D:D
Please we better stop this kind of thread...
I agree. This loss just proves that even a great player like lin dan is still a human (he is for sure :)) who has ups and downs. From the quality of his play after a big lead in the second set, he might be at his "worst", physically and mentally. He made many unforced errors, and then, seems giving up instead of continue fighting.

I realise that for some of Lin's fans just like TH's fans, it's kinda hard to accept that their heros are humans. That's why lame excuses are always made to make their heros become like God. Well, one solution to make these fans feel better but still reasonable would be by seeing their heros as great humans with great technique or a lot of winnings (DOESN'T MEAN they CAN'T LOSE). ;)

[JasonMichael]

The only reason I see why Lindan Lost was Bao Chun Lai was the better player in the end... When there was no more fire power in Lin Dan's game(This was due to Lindan's legs were wearing out faster than his upper body).
He could not do much else. Bao Chun Lai Matched him in all the other areas.
Way to go Bao!!!

[vellin]

The only reason I see why Lindan Lost was Bao Chun Lai was the better player in the end... When there was no more fire power in Lin Dan's game(This was due to Lindan's legs were wearing out faster than his upper body).
He could not do much else. Bao Chun Lai Matched him in all the other areas.
Way to go Bao!!!

yeah.. i agree with you.. Bao had tried his best on that matches. That's why he won.. You guyz should stop this thread..

[hydrocyanic]

if BCL can be more aggressive, i think he can be much more deadly, its sad to see when he can smash, he chose to drop instead, it happen so often that i believe everyone can expect a drop most of the time.

but then, he might need to work on his stamina to be able to go all out for 3rounds...

[Baderz_Jas]

if BCL can be more aggressive, i think he can be much more deadly, its sad to see when he can smash, he chose to drop instead, it happen so often that i believe everyone can expect a drop most of the time.

but then, he might need to work on his stamina to be able to go all out for 3rounds...

agree but I have to say that BCL has been more aggressive then before...;)
keep going Bao! :D

[Monster]

Why LD lost?

My speculation: Remember one of the pics posted with his arm sprayed with some stuff? He had some injury, so less aggressive.

Speculations from others I know also range from ....

1. TH chatted with LD on msn and agreed to both conserve energy and get into the finals in Doha. Start merchandising LD badges, caps, t-shirts soon. Let fans feel depressed for a while and give them a big surge of thrill when LD wins in his pre-determined victory at the Asian games so that LD/TH's joint-venture merchandise shops will have increase in market value.

2. LD had an aggressive night with XXF in their room before the match.

3. BCL wanna get into Finals to clear his gambling debts, so ask compatriot to give way

4. LD was offered a singing career by EMI, Taipei following comments from fans that he is the next Jay Chou

[weeyet]

seriously my mental feels a lil bit tired of tournaments when the chinese players always dominate.

[cooler]

chen hong is often under estimated. Stroke wise, CH is better than LD, IMO. CH has very good records against LD and TH, so beating BCL is not that hard nor a fluke.

[cooler]

I realise that for some of Lin's fans just like TH's fans, it's kinda hard to accept that their heros are humans. That's why lame excuses are always made to make their heros become like God. Well, one solution to make these fans feel better but still reasonable would be by seeing their heros as great humans with great technique or a lot of winnings (DOESN'T MEAN they CAN'T LOSE). ;)
dun worry, i dont think Lindan fans gonna lose sleeps over this. LD is still young, fast and uninjured. LD fans aren't worry at all:p

[cao ci dan]

dun worry, i dont think Lindan fans gonna lose sleeps over this. LD is still young, fast and uninjured. LD fans aren't worry at all:p
BINGO!!:D we are already looking forward to the Asean Games!!:D

[Wong8Egg]

what is the big deal of LD being beaten but the WC runner up and one of the top player in the world? It is not like LD had lost to me, then it would be a big matter! :cool:

[woodenRacket]

what is the big deal of LD being beaten but the WC runner up and one of the top player in the world? It is not like LD had lost to me, then it would be a big matter! :cool:

LD got beaten by anyone is not a big deal. but that he himself give up is a little bit weird. never happend bf.

[hydrocyanic]

agree but I have to say that BCL has been more aggressive then before...;)
keep going Bao! :D

its true, but i'd like him to move faster and hit faster, he seems to be very relaxing or something

good luck bao!

[woodenRacket]

In my opinion from looking at how Lin Dan played in semi against Bao, that was not the usual Lin Dan's game, he never lost so many points so easily like in the second set, and he never just gave up the game like in the third set. It's probably not intentional that he gave up the game, but he did not want to win for sure.

you said it. :)

after 17:9 in second set, i was wondering if the one playing against BCL was LD or not. that is totally not his style. only he himself knows what's in his mind.

he surely loses some times; but not like that.

[Baderz_Jas]

BINGO!!:D we are already looking forward to the Asian Games!!:D

yep! :D he has still got at least 2 years for him! :D jia you LD! ;) :D

[yy_ling]

Why Lin Dan lost?

1. XXF lost, LD doesn't want to win alone :)
2. He's burnt out, playing in too many tournaments lately
3. He wanted to give BCL a chance to win
4. All Chinese Semifinals didn't excite him
5. He's tired? He almost didn't smash at all in the third set, not the full power smash
6. He wanted to show that he can do what Taufik did to him in JO final, too :)

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stop starting threads about who win or lose, these kind of threads start to make fans quarrel abit you know

and anyway your reasons are nonsense

[xt6666]

Of course the reasons are nonsense, it's just ironic!

[Rainofserenity]

People win and loses.. -_-.. stop making thread like why and why they lost... it's just ridiculous... why don't people make thread about why BCL won? O_o

[xt6666]

I think the only reason why THIS thread was opend are all the WHY TAUFIK LOST threads...

[hydrocyanic]

I think the only reason why THIS thread was opend are all the WHY TAUFIK LOST threads...
i think the two cases are different

for LD losing to BCL, i believe most of us see it as indifferent, and to reflect the thread of why TH loses(but different in intention)

if you look at the reasons(or excuses) we give to why LD loss, they are funny rather than serious

do you see a reason why lcw or TH's losses due to their gf/wife demanding too much(shopping, time, or whatever you do at night, sleep or not) :P

i would further saying that LD fans are less likely to immortalize LD than the TH/LCW's fans

have fun :)

[xt6666]

Yes, it was only FUN to open that thread, there should be only funny and ironic reasons why LD lost, while all the TH treads are serious...

But because of my bad english, I can't really tell you what I mean...
So I will not post in this thread anymore.

[ggsam]

Why Lin Dan lost?

6. He wanted to show that he can do what Taufik did to him in JO final, too :)

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Hahaha.. YES he was infected by Taufik!!

[X Ball]

Lin Dan lost because he had enough of winning. Can u imagine winning all the time and people hating you for that.

I guess he is telling everyone he can be humane sometime.

[black_knight006]

Lin Dan lost because he did not win. Had Lin Dan won, he would not have lost. Therefore, the reason Lin Dan lost is simple because he did not win. So by not winning, Lin Dan lost.

That is the STUPIDEST thing I have ever heard. What a waste of time to even write it. :mad:

[DinkAlot]

That is the STUPIDEST thing I have ever heard. What a waste of time to even write it. :mad:

Wow, did Black Knight wake up on the wrong side of the bed? :rolleyes: :confused:

:p ...:D :D :D

[Torres]

Why does everybody mind about this? Bao is the one who beat the 1st seed Lin Dan in the world junior championship 6 years ago, and now he did it again in China Open... There's nothing wrong about this...

LD is only a human, not a machine. He also can lose to others. It is not an upset.

[Torres]

is this thread opened by TH's fans?? so that u all can have a good nite sleep..hehe

Absolutely right.