Men's team:lin dan、bao chunlai、cai yun/fu haifeng、zheng bo/guo zhengdong
MS:lin dan bao chunlai
MD:cai yun/fu haifeng zheng bo/guo zhengdong


Women's team:zhang ning、xie xingfang、zhu lin、gao ling/huang sui、yu yang/du jing
WS:zhang ning、xie xingfang
WD:gao ling/huang sui、yu yang/du jing

XD:zheng bo/gao ling 、xie zhongbo/zhang yawen


Without olympics Wd champion yang wei/zhang weiwen :mad: and China open winner chen hong

Without olympics Wd champion yang wei/zhang weiwen :mad: and China open winner chen hong
that's weird...:confused: olympic champions not good enough??

Zheng Bo?? not Zhang Jun to partner Gao ling??

yeah, Lin Dan's going! :D
why is Zheng Bo playing with Gao Ling? :eek: :confused: strange! :eek:

NOT ZHANG JIEWEN AND YANG WEI ????!!!
what a shame !! they are far better than Yu Yang and Du Jing !

NOT ZHANG JIEWEN AND YANG WEI ????!!!
what a shame !! they are far better than Yu Yang and Du Jing !
Yu Yang and Du Jing are LiYongbo's natives,They are the people of Liaoning.;)

[quote=seawell]Men's team:lin dan、bao chunlai、cai yun/fu haifeng、zheng bo/guo zhengdong------------CHEN Jin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CHINA NATIONAL TEAM FOR ASIAN GAMES :
MEN TEAM: LIN Dan , BAO Chunlai , CHEN Jin , CAI Yun/FU Haifeng , ZHENG Bo/GUO Zhendong ;
WOMEN TEAM: ZHANG Ning , XIE Xingfang , ZHU Lin , GAO Ling/HUANG Sui , YU Yang/DU Jing ;
MEN SINGLE: LIN Dan , BAO Chunlai ;
WOMAN SINGLE: ZHANG Ning , XIE Xingfang ;
MEN DOUBLE: CAI Yun/FU Haifeng , ZHENG Bo/GUO Zhendong ;
WOMEN DOUBLE: GAO Ling/HUANG Sui , YU Yang/DU Jing ;
MIXED DOUBLE:ZHENG Bo/GAO Ling , XIE Zhongbo/ZHANG Yawen ;

Chen Jin plays in team events only which means he will not have play for the single gold

Chen Jin plays in team events only which means he will not have play for the single gold

poor CJ, and CH as well... :( also Zhang Jiewen/Yang Wei... :( ;) :) :D

NOT ZHANG JIEWEN AND YANG WEI ????!!!
what a shame !! they are far better than Yu Yang and Du Jing !

well, maybe they are younger so they can get more experience... :p :D ;)

no need to panic, at the moment it seems as if china can throw a shuttle into a crowded street, pick the 2 women it hits, call them a WD pair and still pick up the gold medal!
:D

well, maybe they are younger so they can get more experience... :p :D ;)

Well actually, China still stand a good chance in securing both the gold and silver medal in WD, whether they send Zhang JW/Yang W, Du J/Yu Y, or even Wei YL/Zhang YW. China is too dominant in this field, and now with Lee Hyo Jung still recovering from her injury, China have a clear path to an all-Chinese final. Their other competitors do not even come close.

As for Chen Hong, I feel really bad for this guy. He is ALWAYS sidelined when it comes to major tournaments, e.g TC & SC.

Well actually, China still stand a good chance in securing both the gold and silver medal in WD, whether they send Zhang JW/Yang W, Du J/Yu Y, or even Wei YL/Zhang YW. China is too dominant in this field, and now with Lee Hyo Jung still recovering from her injury, China have a clear path to an all-Chinese final. Their other competitors do not even come close.

As for Chen Hong, I feel really bad for this guy. He is ALWAYS sidelined when it comes to major tournaments, e.g TC & SC.

thumbs up! :D CH is very unlucky, there's lots of competition for MS in the China Team. :)

Yu Yang and Du Jing are LiYongbo's natives,They are the people of Liaoning.;)

I agree with seawell. Li Yong Bo is an evil guy. He must get a lot of bribery from the provincial government to let his people to go into the World Cup. Who knows? I feel pity for the China Open Champion ZhangYaWen. Yang Wei and Chen Hong. Actually, Chen Hong's game is improving and raising to another standard especially psychologically. As we can see, he beat Peter Gade and Taufik and almsot beat Lin Dan in WC. Now he beat Bao in CO. I dont know why Li Yong Bo is not chosing Chen Hong. I feel pity for those Chinese players who has the potential to win and can not go. What can they do?
Li Yong Bo is the only person control the live and dead of the players. Li Dan lost in CO, ( it is unbelievable for Lin Dan to lose in the 2nd set with a big lead) perhaps Li Yong Bo asked Li Dan to lose the match to Bao beforehand so that his ranking can be higher. Chen Hong perhaps is not listening to Li Yong Bo and he got punished by not allowed to go to World Cup.

Or perhaps Chen hong has a history of crashing in team events?
Didnt he lose against Lee hyun il in sudirman cup 200x?
While Lin and Bao have proven to be successful(espicially Lin) in team events these past 2 years(TC 2004-06, SC 05). I think he made a good choice.

About the WD thing, seriously I think even Du/Yu can probably take on any other foreign pairings. Sending them to get some experience in team events is good idea.

i think LYB would feel much safer to put lin dan and bao chunlai in instead of chen hong...

Both Zhang Jiewen and Zhang Yawen are so pretty. Just wonder are they related? By the way, Zhang Yawen looks like HK actress Wu Qian Lian. She is so cute.

I agree with seawell. Li Yong Bo is an evil guy. He must get a lot of bribery from the provincial government to let his people to go into the World Cup. Who knows? I feel pity for the China Open Champion ZhangYaWen. Yang Wei and Chen Hong. Actually, Chen Hong's game is improving and raising to another standard especially psychologically. As we can see, he beat Peter Gade and Taufik and almsot beat Lin Dan in WC. Now he beat Bao in CO. I dont know why Li Yong Bo is not chosing Chen Hong. I feel pity for those Chinese players who has the potential to win and can not go. What can they do?
Li Yong Bo is the only person control the live and dead of the players. Li Dan lost in CO, ( it is unbelievable for Lin Dan to lose in the 2nd set with a big lead) perhaps Li Yong Bo asked Li Dan to lose the match to Bao beforehand so that his ranking can be higher. Chen Hong perhaps is not listening to Li Yong Bo and he got punished by not allowed to go to World Cup.haha.. ur thinking skills is very excellent..

no need to panic, at the moment it seems as if china can throw a shuttle into a crowded street, pick the 2 women it hits, call them a WD pair and still pick up the gold medal!
:D

to extreme :), what if the shuttle goes to the fat china lady ? :D :p :p

China is flooding with talent. Zhu Ling is only 22 :eek: (this year she already won Indonesian Open) . Besides ZN, XXF and her, China still have Jiang Yanjiao and Wang Yi Han(both 20) :eek: , Lu Lan and Chen Li(both 19) :eek: and Wang Ling(17). Now the scarry part..Gong Zhichao(29) :rolleyes: , Dai Yun(29) :rolleyes: , Zhou Mi(27) :rolleyes: and Gong Ruina(25) :rolleyes: are all forced into retirement because of the flooding of talent..if they are playing for other country, I am sure they are all still around..like Wang Chen (HK), Yao Jie (Holland), Pi Hongyan (France) and Xu Huaiwen (Germany)......What can other countries do??? Dream........ :p :p :p

China is flooding with talent. Zhu Ling is only 22 :eek: (this year she already won Indonesian Open) . Besides ZN, XXF and her, China still have Jiang Yanjiao and Wang Yi Han(both 20) :eek: , Lu Lan and Chen Li(both 19) :eek: and Wang Ling(17). Now the scarry part..Gong Zhichao(29) :rolleyes: , Dai Yun(29) :rolleyes: , Zhou Mi(27) :rolleyes: and Gong Ruina(25) :rolleyes: are all forced into retirement because of the flooding of talent..if they are playing for other country, I am sure they are all still around..like Wang Chen (HK), Yao Jie (Holland), Pi Hongyan (France) and Xu Huaiwen (Germany)......What can other countries do??? Dream........ :p :p :pgosh.... 25 goin to retire...??? i wonder if MAS veterans CTF-LWW are china men.. wat r dey doing now[if they r china shuttlers] at there age?? should b coach ady gua.. :p

China is flooding with talent. Zhu Ling is only 22 :eek: (this year she already won Indonesian Open) . Besides ZN, XXF and her, China still have Jiang Yanjiao and Wang Yi Han(both 20) :eek: , Lu Lan and Chen Li(both 19) :eek: and Wang Ling(17). Now the scarry part..Gong Zhichao(29) :rolleyes: , Dai Yun(29) :rolleyes: , Zhou Mi(27) :rolleyes: and Gong Ruina(25) :rolleyes: are all forced into retirement because of the flooding of talent..if they are playing for other country, I am sure they are all still around..like Wang Chen (HK), Yao Jie (Holland), Pi Hongyan (France) and Xu Huaiwen (Germany)......What can other countries do??? Dream........ :p :p :p

:eek: I knew China had young players coming up but not that much :eek:
btw, Gong Ruina or Zhou Mi retired because of injury (or both :confused: ) :) :crying:

For your info..Lu Lan won this year Korean Open..Jiang Yanjiao is this year Chinese National Game champion..Gong Ruina is now working as a government officer (sports department) in her home town, Yiyang (Hunan province). She is one of the World Cup organising committee's member. She retired partly is because of her long term nagging injury. By the way, she is getting merried next year.:p I think Zhou Mi never carry any injury with her. She is a victim of Li Yongbo's policy. That's why now she is reunited with her former coach Li Mao (Li Yongbo nemesis) in Malaysia..hooray..China lose is Malaysia gain.

For your info..Lu Lan won this year Korean Open..Jiang Yanjiao is this year Chinese National Game champion..Gong Ruina is now working as a government officer (sports department) in her home town, Yiyang (Hunan province). She is one of the World Cup organising committee's member. She retired partly is because of her long term nagging injury. By the way, she is getting merried next year.:p I think Zhou Mi never carry any injury with her. She is a victim of Li Yongbo's policy. That's why now she is reunited with her former coach Li Mao (Li Yongbo nemesis) in Malaysia..hooray..China lose is Malaysia gain.hahaha..good..good..serve li yongbo right.. huhuhu.. come come zhou mi.. malaysia welcomes u... i m waiting for zhang ning to come over malaysia..haha.. dream for another decade mayb.. keke..

gong ruina retired bcoz she go to acting rite,so now she working as govermment officer,btw she married to sigit hahaha<exbf>

gong ruina retired bcoz she go to acting rite,so now she working as govermment officer,btw she married to sigit hahaha<exbf>

Oh Really???!! She is going to married to Sigit? are they going out together all this while? I have no idea abt it at all.

sigit n gong ruina broke long time already that time peter gade and camelia martin are hot couple,it so funny sigit say he want learn mandarin hahaha

sigit n gong ruina broke long time already that time peter gade and camelia martin are hot couple,it so funny sigit say he want learn mandarin hahaha

Oh ya.. I remember now. Sigit said that he wants to learn Mandarin. But did they really go out together? I thought that it was Sigit who likes Gong Rui Na.

Men's team:lin dan、bao chunlai、cai yun/fu haifeng、zheng bo/guo zhengdong
MS:lin dan bao chunlai
MD:cai yun/fu haifeng zheng bo/guo zhengdong


Women's team:zhang ning、xie xingfang、zhu lin、gao ling/huang sui、yu yang/du jing
WS:zhang ning、xie xingfang
WD:gao ling/huang sui、yu yang/du jing

XD:zheng bo/gao ling 、xie zhongbo/zhang yawen


Without olympics Wd champion yang wei/zhang weiwen :mad: and China open winner chen hong


I guess Ina team will be able to defeat China Team this time in Doha...

It is clear now...

ANy INA's Mens Double and Mixed Doubles are better than China's.
On Men's SIngle....TH is progressing very well...he is now having a break now....

TH still sees LD as his strongest opponent....who he will defeat in Doha as his last Asian Games...

Ina will grab 3 golds

Without olympics Wd champion yang wei/zhang weiwen :mad: and China open winner chen hong

i'd like to see them on court as well. but too bad. it looks like they are going down slope now!

I guess Ina team will be able to defeat China Team this time in Doha...

It is clear now...

ANy INA's Mens Double and Mixed Doubles are better than China's.
On Men's SIngle....TH is progressing very well...he is now having a break now....

TH still sees LD as his strongest opponent....who he will defeat in Doha as his last Asian Games...

Ina will grab 3 golds

but Team China's spirit is the strongest in the whole world ;) :D ;) :p ;)

why they didnt send Zhang jie wen and Yang wei???they are olympic champion worr...

I agree with seawell. Li Yong Bo is an evil guy. He must get a lot of bribery from the provincial government to let his people to go into the World Cup. Who knows? I feel pity for the China Open Champion ZhangYaWen. Yang Wei and Chen Hong. Actually, Chen Hong's game is improving and raising to another standard especially psychologically. As we can see, he beat Peter Gade and Taufik and almsot beat Lin Dan in WC. Now he beat Bao in CO. I dont know why Li Yong Bo is not chosing Chen Hong. I feel pity for those Chinese players who has the potential to win and can not go. What can they do?
Li Yong Bo is the only person control the live and dead of the players. Li Dan lost in CO, ( it is unbelievable for Lin Dan to lose in the 2nd set with a big lead) perhaps Li Yong Bo asked Li Dan to lose the match to Bao beforehand so that his ranking can be higher. Chen Hong perhaps is not listening to Li Yong Bo and he got punished by not allowed to go to World Cup.

All the above are assupmtions.

For CHN, they might have 10 different choices (players or pairs) who have the ability to take home a medal. Who you going to select, if you can only send 2? Therefore, the coach is facing a lot of pressure, as if he can't get gold + silver, there're always the ones jumping out and shouting like you, "hey, why u send xxx, instead of yyy... bad choices, since xxx lost..." The problem is, how you going to know yyy must doing much better than xxx BEFORE the event? :eek:

The selection progress is complicate, and there's no perfect solution, and always a risk involved. Some of the selections are done based on recent status, or overal ranking, some might serve the purpose to train young players. Neither one is perfect, and it's not fair to say, "see, i know that 5000 years ago..." The truth is, no one can be that sure before hand.

Plus, Du/Yu are promise young players, and WD is fairly a safer gold for CHN. Give them a chance to gain experience is a "sooner or later" progress anyway. You can argue that they are LYB's native. However, why the natives should be punished, because of the native nature??? It's not like LYB skip all the national team player, and get a no name native player from a beauty peagent something... :o

Actually, Chen Hong's game is improving and raising to another standard especially psychologically. As we can see, he beat Peter Gade and Taufik and almsot beat Lin Dan in WC. Now he beat Bao in CO. I dont know why Li Yong Bo is not chosing Chen Hong. I feel pity for those Chinese players who has the potential to win and can not go. What can they do?
Li Yong Bo is the only person control the live and dead of the players.

1. LD was in the olympics, because of his "most recent" records back then. However, he lost in the 1st round. Recent record is a good reference, but does not gurantee anything. If LYB select CH instead of Lin Dan, if CH lost early, he will be facing much more trouble than selecting LD.

2. LYB might not be popular, but he did get his job done. If he's like a corrupted dumb head as you described, I am sure he lost his job maybe 200 years ago already. Instead, he took SC, TC, UC and most of the WC back home. Yes, the players and the coaches did a lot of work, but you can't say LYB just sit in his office, and doing nothing.

Too much conspiracy theory here.

LYB send Du Jing/Yu Yang cause they are still young about 21? and for them to gain experience for this kind of events.

Usually China send lots of youngster in Asian Games so their atheltes will mature, gain experience and winning later in Olympic games. They combined old and young players. So if the old players retired before Olympic, they still had the youngster to count on.

Their strategy is of course so effective. Proof is China rank 2 in the last Olympic only under USA with a small margin of gold medal. And lots of the gold medals for China team came from youngter atheltes.

With this kind of combination, China probably can grab at least 5 medal out of 7. MD and XD is still an open event. With XD, Indonesia had the best chances to winning gold medal.

Zheng Bo/Gao Ling is good combination considering Zhang Jun started to slow down in his games. Meanwhile Zheng Bo is a good XD players.

From what I see from China team, LYB try to be fair as he can.

Example: WS. Its really a suprise when he play Jiang Yian Jiao in Uber and World Champion. Cause from her achievemnet this year in international events she didnot had any titles.

Compare with Lu Lan 1 titles and Zhu Lin who had 2 titles (not 1). Although JYJ is China National Champion, the most important things is it doesnt matter if you can win all your teammates, the most important things is you can beat other players from other countries so you can create final with your teammates.

But JYJ did not deliver it. She lost to Petra in QF WC2006 and lost to WPT in China Open R16.

Sending Zhu Lin is the best choices, cause she is the best China players right now except for ZN and XXF against other Asian WS.

Who can beat Zhu Lin if she play third singles in women team events?

I guess Ina team will be able to defeat China Team this time in Doha...

It is clear now...

ANy INA's Mens Double and Mixed Doubles are better than China's.
On Men's SIngle....TH is progressing very well...he is now having a break now....

TH still sees LD as his strongest opponent....who he will defeat in Doha as his last Asian Games...

Ina will grab 3 golds

3 Gold Medal,this is logical target! The Golds will coming from Individual disciplines : XD (Nova/Lilyana)-MD (Kindra)-MS (TH). How about CHN? On paper, 99% CHN can grab 3 gold too from their specializations Women's Team-WD-WS. As usual in Male division CHN's best chance depends on LD's effort (Team and Individual). With 3 MS shuttler in top 5 WR, it should be easy for CHN to win Men's Team gold but can't lookdown the other candidates MAS-INA plus KOR as reigning champ (all KOR top players have long preparations for this AG with their absentees after World-meet). LYB absolutely has big aim to dump bad memory 4 year ago in Busan (only 2 from 7)

3 Gold Medal,this is logical target! The Golds will coming from Individual disciplines : XD (Nova/Lilyana)-MD (Kindra)-MS (TH). How about CHN? On paper, 99% CHN can grab 3 gold too from their specializations Women's Team-WD-WS. As usual in Male division CHN's best chance depends on LD's effort (Team and Individual). With 3 MS shuttler in top 5 WR, it should be easy for CHN to win Men's Team gold but can't lookdown the other candidates MAS-INA plus KOR as reigning champ (all KOR top players have long preparations for this AG with their absentees after World-meet). LYB absolutely has big aim to dump bad memory 4 year ago in Busan (only 2 from 7)

OK..INA vs China

LD vs TH = This time TH will win
Fu/Cai vs Kid/Hen = Kid/Hen
Bao vs Sony = Bao
Luluk/Alven vs any = Luluk/ALven
CJ vs Simon = 50:50

OK..INA vs China

LD vs TH = This time TH will win
Fu/Cai vs Kid/Hen = Kid/Hen
Bao vs Sony = Bao
Luluk/Alven vs any = Luluk/ALven
CJ vs Simon = 50:50

I highly doubt it, especially with TH's recent performance. Yeah, CHN still has some weakness in MD, but Fu/Cai is no longer "sure meat" to anyone, instead, they have the ability to take anyone down.

The funny thing is, now days, INA MD is facing the same problem CHN MS used to face, as you can't lose. If any INA MD lose a point, pretty much that's it. With highly competitive CHN MD pair now, it's great pressure on INA, as their MS are clearly 1 level below their opponents.

Unless INA finishes off CHN in 4 games, say TH and 2 MD all win, INA will likely to lose. Which nation has a strong enough MS #3 to face CJ? Mostly, no. :cool:

OK..INA vs China

LD vs TH = This time TH will win
Fu/Cai vs Kid/Hen = Kid/Hen
Bao vs Sony = Bao
Luluk/Alven vs any = Luluk/ALven
CJ vs Simon = 50:50

6 months ago... Thomas cup semi-finals...

CHN 3:0 INDO.

come on... give us some excuses now...:p:p:p:eek::confused:

OK..INA vs China

LD vs TH = This time TH will win
Fu/Cai vs Kid/Hen = Kid/Hen
Bao vs Sony = Bao
Luluk/Alven vs any = Luluk/ALven
CJ vs Simon = 50:50

LD vs TH = LD will win easily! :D TH not in form :D
FHF/CY vs Kido/Setiawan = INA pair have good record over FHF/CY :crying: :( BCL vs Sony = BCL more likely to win :D
Who will Luluk/Alven play? :confused: :D
CJ vs Simon = Simon has no chance :o :D :p

6 months ago... Thomas cup semi-finals...

CHN 3:0 INDO.

come on... give us some excuses now...:p:p:p:eek::confused:

As Alaric says (in a different thread), 'Form is temporary, class is permanent'; outcome can change pretty fast in badminton.
Take Fu/Cai: within a month of winning the WC title (with some luck), they lost to three different MDs, twice outclassed in 25 mins or less.
Indications are INA can only get better while CHN can only get worse, so my bet is on INA. MAS can be written off in the AG.

OK..INA vs China

LD vs TH = This time TH will win
Fu/Cai vs Kid/Hen = Kid/Hen
Bao vs Sony = Bao
Luluk/Alven vs any = Luluk/ALven
CJ vs Simon = 50:50

In your mind if INA meet CHN in final, INA will win Gold with score 3-2??I hope so. Based on latest WR, I guess 2nd MS should be Simon (22) vs CJ (3) and 3rd MS Sony (38) vs BCL (5). Advantage side for INA is MD area and CHN is 2nd plus 3rdMS but unpredictable result in 1stMS, seems TH and LD are the trump card of their teams.

As Alaric says (in a different thread), 'Form is temporary, class is permanent'; outcome can change pretty fast in badminton.
Take Fu/Cai: within a month of winning the WC title (with some luck), they lost to three different MDs, twice outclassed in 25 mins or less.
Indications are INA can only get better while CHN can only get worse, so my bet is on INA. MAS can be written off in the AG.

You are pretty much contridict against urself in "outcome can change pretty fast" vs. "INA can only get better while CHN can only get worse". To me, MD result (maybe with a bit exception for Tony/Candra) is the most unpredicatable one in recent events. Yeah, Fu/Cai struggled a bit after WC, which MD pair (besides Tony/Candra) can even close to be a consistent title claimer? :rolleyes:

I agree INA still have an edge on the 2 MD matches, but that edge is far slimmer than CHN's edge on 2 MS (#2 and #3). Therefore, the 2 INA MD facing the pressure of "must win", otherwise, they are pretty much no chance to break the great wall in team event. :rolleyes:

i think INA will lose the mens team, it's more likely malaysia to be worthy opponent for the china

i think INA will lose the mens team, it's more likely malaysia to be worthy opponent for the chinayaya..good good... but indo is still a stronge challenge..

it's really unbelievable how fast kido/setiawan has surpassed yulianto/hadiyanto... last year, they were just a bunch of kids..and now they have just beaten lundgaard/eriksen and cai/fu without much challenge.. unbelievable?...

kido/setiawan, i think, will win against any chinese MD...
come to think of it, if only INA has the gunawan/ wijaya tandem... it would be a sure gold...haha

natsir/ widianto pair has always had better games against their chinese counterparts...

The only remaining question is whether Taufik will be in his best condition... both physically and mentally... I hope this time he wouldn't get busted by LD... BCL will not be a problem against TH, TH has recently won two consecutive meetings with BCL... IO and JO...

I just remembered, TH has a 'neutral' record against LD... 7-7 most of those wins was before the 21-point system...lol

kido/setiawan, i think, will win against any chinese MD...
come to think of it, if only INA has the gunawan/ wijaya tandem... it would be a sure gold...haha

natsir/ widianto pair has always had better games against their chinese counterparts...


INA has a realistic chance of winning 2 golds (MD and XD). Forget the MS and men's team. It will take a miracle to win golds in those 2 events!

I hope Nova/Butet (and to a certain extent Kido/Hendra) don't screw up! They tend to do so when the pressure is high (like the WC).

i think there'll be a suprise from sony DK, he always give the best if it comes for the country.

and surely from Taufik too, remember his father in law is the chief of KONI now, i think he wouldn't be happy if taufik fails so the preasure comes from his family now and surely it will be a different motivation for taufik himself and you know what happen if taufik in the best form

differently i doubt markis/hendra will win this match, but the different comes from alven/luluk eventhough their last perfomance very bad, it comes that this event maybe will be the last judgement for them so maybe you can hope that there'll be a suprise from them.

Indonesia full of big suprise if it comes to the name of country except for taufik (maybe he just want to make his Father in law happy but that's the way i like him)

Really funny thats everybody count off Mas.

My prediction in team events final?

China will meet Mas. Why?

With WCH again playing, he will play as third singles. WCH already play countless of team event and had good mental. The only way to beat him is if you had higher skill and speed .

He will not play poorly form nerve when the score line is 2-2. Like KBH did or Simon Santoso. I still remember when he trash Simonthird singles in Sea Games team event last year when the score 2-2.

From all other teams third MS, only Chen Jin had the best chance to beat him. Otherwise, if the situation got 2-2, Mas will surely win. But before that, if Malaysia send WCH to Asian Games?

And the MOST important thing playing team events is MENTALITY. Skill is number 2.

INdonesia men team already at disadvantaged cause :

1. For both of their MD, they simply cannot lost and had always to win 2 points here. IT will be a big burden for the MD pairs specially Luluk whose his team effort are really poor.

2. For the MS, Taufik had the most pressure cause when playing Mas or China, he also cannot lost. Cause if he lost, Indonesia practically already lost for team events. So far after 2 Thomas Cup (2004 & 2006) and Sudirman Cup (2005), Taufik did not play very well if got pressured HAD TO WIN in team event.

Really funny thats everybody count off Mas.
My prediction in team events final?
China will meet Mas. Why?
With WCH again playing, he will play as third singles. WCH already play countless of team event and had good mental. The only way to beat him is if you had higher skill and speed .
He will not play poorly form nerve when the score line is 2-2. Like KBH did or Simon Santoso. I still remember when he trash Simonthird singles in Sea Games team event last year when the score 2-2.
From all other teams third MS, only Chen Jin had the best chance to beat him. Otherwise, if the situation got 2-2, Mas will surely win. But before that, if Malaysia send WCH to Asian Games?
i predicted the same as you too: Chn vs Mas in final...:)
:( but i don't think the Mas team will send WCH...so will be KBH again!!meeting CJ....:o he.....sorry!no chance at all!!...as for Cai/Fu....:cool: i don't think they will lose again!!;) ....conclusion:China team win!!:D

Personally I think Malaysia looks quite strong for the Asian Games. Lee Chong Wei is very solid as 1st singles, Wong Choong Han very experienced and steady as 3rd men's singles. Hafiz may be a bit unpredictable. But Rexy has a great number of men's doubles combinations that he can call upon to be effective as well. There's a really cool interview with Rexy on www.badmintonsite.com, and he talked about Christian Hidanata's choice of having all the Indonesian men's doubles players play with different partners during practice so that there were many combinations when it came to team events. I suspect he is doing a similar style with the Malaysian men's doubles now. Look out for Malaysia's men in the team event!
Gregory

i think LYB would feel much safer to put lin dan and bao chunlai in instead of chen hong...

he can be a little bit inconsistent sometimes :D :o :D

he can be a little bit inconsistent sometimes :D :o :D

;) :D time for the youngster, just like 4 years ago when him and XXZ went :)

i agree with u blessing..terence's thinking skill is not bad... perhaps get an A for that subject in A'levels..haha...mm..CH is not selected is it because of the ranking position??apparently.. he's behind these 3 players.. am i right??correct me if im wrong ya..

CH is not selected is it because of the ranking position??apparently.. he's behind these 3 players.. am i right??correct me if im wrong ya..

:) I think it's because he went last time and LYB wants to give CJ a chance as well :) ;) :) but you could be right too :)

mm...each country can only send 3 representatives in a single event is it?? i think CJ has improved a lot this year.. no doubt CH performance is gettin better though.. but as u said..perhaps LYB wants CJ to hv more exposure.. CH been once..now it's CJ's turn..hehe

no as i know LYB is a fair enough for his player it's because cj rank better than ch

some ppl here just could not help to think that LYB is in fact bias.. i have no issues on that.. it's his decision which player should represent the country though..not us..

some ppl here just could not help to think that LYB is in fact bias.. i have no issues on that.. it's his decision which player should represent the country though..not us..

thumbs up! :D and it's also the Chinese Badminton Associaiton's choice :D hehe :D

true true... why care who represent the country..so long as they bring victory..that's what count the most!! hehe..

Coaching CHN baddy team, is like coaching NBA all star team. No matter which player you put on the roster, there are always complains from the fans who are rooted for the "not on" stars. Since there's no way a decision can make everyone in the world happy, someone has to make the final call somehow. :cool:

The problem of having too many good players to choose from is a good problem to have for team China, while other countries including Badminton giants Ina and Mal still have shortage of good players for their 2nd and 3rd drafts for their teams.

Coaching CHN baddy team, is like coaching NBA all star team. No matter which player you put on the roster, there are always complains from the fans who are rooted for the "not on" stars. Since there's no way a decision can make everyone in the world happy, someone has to make the final call somehow. :cool:

Yeah, very true. Not every player can play, and not every fan can be happy. I wouldn't like to be in his position :p.

Yeah, very true. Not every player can play, and not every fan can be happy. I wouldn't like to be in his position :p.

Exactly, can you imagine how much guts LYB must have in order to send LD to any tourney??? Every time LD wins a tournament, LYB probably receives 100+ e-mail complaining to him about "why LD always win??? It's getting boring.. blah, blah, blah":p:p

Exactly, can you imagine how much guts LYB must have in order to send LD to any tourney??? Every time LD wins a tournament, LYB probably receives 100+ e-mail complaining to him about "why LD always win??? It's getting boring.. blah, blah, blah":p:p

The downfall of the Great Wall of China will begin in AG....:D

The downfall of the Great Wall of China will begin in AG....:D
Either that, OR you will be hiding for another two weeks after AG.:eek:

And why would you quote my post when yours had nothing to do with mine???

Either that, OR you will be hiding for another two weeks after AG.:eek:

And why would you quote my post when yours had nothing to do with mine???

I never hide....only a break due to other committments.

About quote, yes it was irrelevant..sorry for that:D

I never hide....only a break due to other committments.

About quote, yes it was irrelevant..sorry for that:D

Maybe hibernation is a better word than hiding since winter is here.:p:D:D

Maybe hibernation is a better word than hiding since winter is here.:p:D:D

haha :D lol :D ;) :)

YU Yang will not play in DOHA because of injury.
YANG Wei/ZHANG Jiewen will play in DOHA instead.

YU Yang will not play in DOHA because of injury.
YANG Wei/ZHANG Jiewen will play in DOHA instead.

okay, thanks for the update :) where are you getting this from? :confused: :)

oh my goodness..it's getting hillarious here... haha...

China's badminton coach delighted with new schedule
(Xinhua)
Updated: 2006-11-28 13:56

Chinese badminton team's head coach Li Yongbo looked delighted as he knew on Monday the competition at the Doha Asian Games had been rescheduled.

Chinese badminton team head coach Li Yongbo walks out of Doha International Airport,Qator November 26,2006.Chinese badminton team and gymnastics team have arrived in Doha for the 15th Asian Games starting from December 1.[Xinhua]


The Chinese team arrived at Doha International Airport at 7 a.m. Monday. Several hours later, Li was told by the umpire that the team semifinals and finals would not be played in the same day, but in two days.

"I'm very happy to know that. It's good news," said Li, who had blasted at the former schedule as a "big joke".

The previous schedule had put the team semifinals and finals on Dec. 5. Li had said bluntly that it was "the most unreasonable schedule" he had ever seen.

"Badminton competition demands physical strength," said the head coach. "For Chinese players, two matches a day is too hard to stand, let alone playing the singles and doubles events the next day."

To Li's delight, the team semifinals will take place on Dec. 4 and finals on Dec. 5. He believed his 16-member contingent would fine-tune in two days.

China is the biggest winner at the 2004 Athens Olympics and 2005 Madrid World Championships as the dream team collected three and four golds respectively.

The traditional powerhouse, however, took only two out of seven golds at the Busan Asian Games in 2002. Four years around, Chinese shuttlers will vie for at least three titles, said Li

The traditional powerhouse, however, took only two out of seven golds at the Busan Asian Games in 2002. Four years around, Chinese shuttlers will vie for at least three titles, said Li

Women Team GOLD
WOmen SIngle GOLD
WOMENS DOUBLE GOLD

Even Li Yong Bo is not SURE if Men's Team, MS, and MD can get gold:D

Women Team GOLD
WOmen SIngle GOLD
WOMENS DOUBLE GOLD

Even Li Yong Bo is not SURE if Men's Team, MS, and MD can get gold:D
At least LYB has confident for at least 3.

On the INA side, how many gold PBSI can vouch for??
Taufik promise 'I'll try my best'.
Mathematically, it can be ZERO.

Remember that AG is like the Olympic and WC, china can't field ALL their best players like in an Open. Taufik only has to worry about 2 chinese players. Ranking wise, TH don't have to deal with 3 other HIGHER (better) ranking chinese players.

1 50906 LIN Dan CHN 40530 4363 9 1 10 44893
2 50152 LEE Chong Wei MAS 34440 4023 9 1 10 38463
3 6926 GADE Peter DEN 31800 3829 9 1 10 35629
4 9689 CHEN Hong CHN 34530 0 10 0 10 34530
5 51592 CHEN Jin CHN 31530 2929 9 1 10 34459
6 51274 BAO Chunlai CHN 29820 3425 9 1 10 33245
7 11704 LEE Hyun II KOR 28320 3389 9 1 10 31709
8 4762 JONASSEN Kenneth DEN 27060 3108 9 1 10 30168
9 50931 CHEN Yu CHN 28590 0 10 0 10 28590
10 12370 HASHIM Muhd Hafiz B MAS 23610 3034 9 1 10 26644
11 11959 PONSANA Boonsak THA 24360 2180 9 1 10 26540
12 10337 HIDAYAT Taufik INA 18690 3203 6 1 7 21893

It's like going into a gang fight but the rule disallow 60% of the opponent's weapon or members to participate :rolleyes: I do say this is TH best opportunity to make his mark where the chinese MS players is and can't be at full participation. OG is 2 years away, next AG is 4 years away, TH need to save his strength to work on his land :p

[quote=cooler]At least LYB has confident for at least 3.

On the INA side, how many gold PBSI can vouch for?? 4 GOLDS
Taufik promise 'I'll try my best'. => IT IS VERY CLEAR, GOLD is WHAT HE WANTS

Mathematically, it can be ZERO.==> No...4 GOLDS

lol, Lee YB promised 3 golds while indra promised 4 golds, so that made up 7 golds in total. Too sad for Malaysia and Korea, there is no gold left for them ;)

China was excluded by Asian Games from the beginning. When China first joined the AG in 1974, it claimed 6 golds out of 7 in badminton. At that time, China was a mystery to everyone. After that, China continued grabbing more than half of the golds in badminton. But recently, they failed continuously, while they became dominant in AG as a whole (all events). They even didn't win any gold in badminton in Japan last time. Why? actually it is the reason that nowadays, China is too strong in sports. In early 70s and 80s, China needed the golds to beat Japan because that time Japan was the most powerful country in Asia sports. After mid 80s, China can win more than double, triple golds than Japan, so there is no need for badminton to win. Usually under Chinese system, the head coach has task to win some number of golds to keep his job, especially for WC and OG, but for AG, there is no such task at all. Even Li YB said, there is no task for him and badminton team to shot a target. The ping-pong(table tennis) team of China even sends their 2nd tier players to the AG. That's the reason, don't expect China win big at AG. Even themselves claimed AG just a warm-up exercise for OG.

China was excluded by Asian Games from the beginning. When China first joined the AG in 1974, it claimed 6 golds out of 7 in badminton. At that time, China was a mystery to everyone. After that, China continued grabbing more than half of the golds in badminton. But recently, they failed continuously, while they became dominant in AG as a whole (all events). They even didn't win any gold in badminton in Japan last time. Why? actually it is the reason that nowadays, China is too strong in sports. In early 70s and 80s, China needed the golds to beat Japan because that time Japan was the most powerful country in Asia sports. After mid 80s, China can win more than double, triple golds than Japan, so there is no need for badminton to win. Usually under Chinese system, the head coach has task to win some number of golds to keep his job, especially for WC and OG, but for AG, there is no such task at all. Even Li YB said, there is no task for him and badminton team to shot a target. The ping-pong(table tennis) team of China even sends their 2nd tier players to the AG. That's the reason, don't expect China win big at AG. Even themselves claimed AG just a warm-up exercise for OG.

for china men team, this DOHA AG is very important and they want to win , the failed totally in the last AG 2002 and 1998

The same gold medal is much much valuable for Indonesia than China. Last AG in Korea, both China and Indonesia won 2 golds. While China, as a whole won 150 golds. So China badminton turned total number of golds from 148 to 150, just 1% increase. While Indonesia as a whole won only 4 golds. So Indonesia badminton's 2 golds made total number of golds doubled, that's a 100% increase (from 2 golds to 4 golds).

So if badminton in Indonesia takes 50% total pride of their sports, while badminton in China only 1%. Now the question is whether Indonesia's 50% can beat China's 1% this time in AG?

for china men team, this DOHA AG is very important and they want to win , the failed totally in the last AG 2002 and 1998

I think both China men's team and women's team failed continuously in AG. They didn't won any gold in Japan last time. Women team recovered a little bit in Korea while men's team failed even further.

Some politics got involved also last time. Actually politics got involved every time. Last time in Korea, Lin Dan was world number 1, while Bao was also in better form than Xia XZ and Chen Hong. But Xia and Chen got the chances to play. So they played without confidence and bigger pressure to prove they deserved to play. It's like Bao CL this time. It should be Chen Hong to play, if not Chen Hong, Chen Jin also ranked ahead of Bao. It is just politics that Bao got the chance. So he must fail because even himself cannot justify himself.

Anyway, AG champion is not that valuable for the Chinese players either. Zhou Mi got the last time AG champion, but she cannot get anything back from this champion. While WC champion Gong RN was given a job because she's the world champion. So in China, WC is much valuable than AG. There are too many Asian champions in China.

2cents, i agree. If LYB is really serious, he would pick chen hong this time. Chen hong has been on a roll lately, 2nd only to LD but told to sit out the AG.

I don't think Team China take AG lightly in badminton event, just look at the players China is sending! In US, we call that the DREAM TEAM. Chen Hong was excluded may due to some political reason but is Chen Hong any better than Lin Dan/Bao/Chen Jin? I don't think so. I think Li Yongbo really want to win big this time as AG is the only major event not under his belt in terms of winning aside from Olympic and World Championship.
If Malaysia win any gold then I agree the Chinese doesn't take AG seriously :D

The same gold medal is much much valuable for Indonesia than China. Last AG in Korea, both China and Indonesia won 2 golds. While China, as a whole won 150 golds. So China badminton turned total number of golds from 148 to 150, just 1% increase. While Indonesia as a whole won only 4 golds. So Indonesia badminton's 2 golds made total number of golds doubled, that's a 100% increase (from 2 golds to 4 golds).

So if badminton in Indonesia takes 50% total pride of their sports, while badminton in China only 1%. Now the question is whether Indonesia's 50% can beat China's 1% this time in AG?

Sorry, you have made little mistake here -- INA only got 1 GOLD from Bdm in Busan AG/02 (through Individual MS --> TH) ; CHN 2 Golds and KOR 4 Golds. It's very true badminton is the urgent sport to lift-up INA at international world-sport stage because not many sport division that INA can talk too much in world-scope. Different side for CHN of course, CHN's sport-level is Olympic arena not AG contest.

Just wondering me, if CHN never assuming AG is one of important event to show-off their force so why LYB still sent top-list shuttlers like LD-CJ-CY/FHF-ZN-XXF,etc. and not sent CHong/CYu-LuLan-and another youngsters with eagerly to get some competing-experience???

AG GOLD esp.for bdm basically is also prestigious one because bdm powerhouse still concentrate in ASIA so far. Probably bdm in AG just like mini WChamp or OG minus DEN/ENG. But without them it's not giving big effect too much for competition itself, example : Olympic Gold Medalist (from Barcelona to Athens) is almost all coming from ASIA countries. DEN's Poul Erik Hoyer-Larsen is the only one shuttler outside ASIA who win GOLD in Atlanta 1996. ASIA have booked 18 GOLDS of 19 until Athens/04.

I don't think Team China take AG lightly in badminton event, just look at the players China is sending! In US, we call that the DREAM TEAM. Chen Hong was excluded may due to some political reason but is Chen Hong any better than Lin Dan/Bao/Chen Jin? I don't think so. I think Li Yongbo really want to win big this time as AG is the only major event not under his belt in terms of winning aside from Olympic and World Championship.
If Malaysia win any gold then I agree the Chinese doesn't take AG seriously :D

i have stated Chen hong is 2nd to LD base on recent record. I think CH is better suited for this AG than BCL. Chen hong had beaten TH in the recent world cup. Chen hong beat BCL to win 06 china open. BCL has poor record against TH.

As LYB had stated, AG is important in the sense that it will give the young bloods more tournament experience in preparation of 2008 OG. LYB will do anything to maximize the chance to maximize medals in 2008 OG. Yes, it's nice to beat last AG record but this time around, not at the expense of OG success.

Women Team GOLD
WOmen SIngle GOLD
WOMENS DOUBLE GOLD

Even Li Yong Bo is not SURE if Men's Team, MS, and MD can get gold:D

Men's Team for China too :D

Sorry, you have made little mistake here -- INA only got 1 GOLD from Bdm in Busan AG/02 (through Individual MS --> TH) ; CHN 2 Golds and KOR 4 Golds. ...

but if you read this article from Indonesia:

Despite poor show, badminton remains Indonesia's backbone
Primastuti Handayani, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta
Its shine is dimming but badminton remains the biggest hope for the country to extend its Asian Games gold medal winning streak.

Even with a modest target of four gold medals, national shuttlers are tipped to contribute two golds in the men's and mixed doubles.
Such a target, however, maybe too ambitious in view of the shuttlers' poor showing in recent tournaments.
Doubles coordinator Christian Hadinata said that although national mixed doubles of Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa managed to win the Japan Open, beating compatriots Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir, the result was incomparable to the shuttlers' failure in the World Badminton Championships in Madrid in September where defending champions Taufik Hidayat and Nova/Lilyana had been expected to reclaim their titles.
"We really hope for a good result at the Asian Games as a year-end gift," he said. "The Asian Games is like a mini world championships with Asia's best shuttlers from China, South Korea and Malaysia and dark horses from Thailand and Singapore gather to prove who is the best in the continent.
"Winning golds at the Asian Games is like proving that we still exist on the world stage."
Indonesia is waiting for the Asian Badminton Confederation's response over its protest on the men's team drawing. The drawing divided the nine participating countries into three polls, unlike the usual two, and Indonesia is put in Group A along with powerhouse China and India. South Korea and Malaysia are top seeded in Group B and C, respectively.
Winners in each group will automatically earn semifinal slots while runners-up will have to fight for the remaining berth.
"We know that all four countries of Indonesia, China, South Korea and Malaysia have an equal chance in the men's team to reach the final," Christian said. "Such a policy should help boost our shuttlers performance to get into the last four."
Indonesia lost the men's team gold to South Korea in Busan Asiad four years ago but won in the men's singles and men's doubles, which were two of the country's four golds.

but if you read this article from Indonesia:

Despite poor show, badminton remains Indonesia's backbone
Primastuti Handayani, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta
Its shine is dimming but badminton remains the biggest hope for the country to extend its Asian Games gold medal winning streak.

Indonesia lost the men's team gold to South Korea in Busan Asiad four years ago but won in the men's singles and men's doubles, which were two of the country's four golds.

Hmmm, there must be some 'human error' about above Jakarta Post's article. You may check past tournament results on ABC's web : www.badmintonasia.org which 100% is very true. Individual MD Gold won by KOR's pair Lee Dong Soo/Yoo Young Sung and INA's got Bronze through Halim Heryanto/Trikus Haryanto.

'Posh and Becks' of badminton look for Asian glory

Agence France-Presse

Doha, November 29, 2006

The 'Posh and Becks' of badminton Lin Dan and fiancee Xie Xinfang will be looking to make up for China's disappointment at the last Asian Games by inspiring the team to a cleansweep in Doha.
Both have had a great year, winning their respective singles world titles in Madrid, and Asian Games glory would prove the proverbial icing on the wedding cake.

China underperformed in the last Games in Busan taking away just two titles when they were aiming for a cleansweep and coach Li Yongbo is well aware that while the fortunes of rivals Malaysia and Indonesia have dipped there is no fiercer battle than that of winning Asian bragging rights in badminton.

"We have improved a lot in the past few years to the extent that we are now the strongest," said Li, who like any good manager looking for a get out claimed a reason for their failure in Busan was down to the refereeing.

"However our record at the Asian Games is not so good and we are looking to improve on it."

While some back in China are merely hoping for a small improvement on last time out Li is demanding more.

"We won two titles last time now we want at least three but in fact I want more like four or five," commented Li, whose team took five of the six world titles on show in Madrid.

While Li is demanding an enormous effort from his team, the managers of the other major rivals for the gold in the team competitions are playing hopes down.

"We have high expectations but it could be quite difficult to achieve them because China and Korea are around and most of their players are at the same level," said Malaysia's Misbun Bin Sedek, coach of Hashim Muhammad Hafiz.

"Lin Dan is one step above."

Lin and Xie should be hot favourites for their respective titles.

Lin, 23, was a member of the bronze medal team four years ago but since then his career has reached dizzy heights.

The world title apart, he also turned in a phenomenal performance in the All England Open this year when he took the trophy despite injuring his knee during the tournament.

Aside from that the soldier - who when relaxing enjoys buying clothes for Xie - is a real showman on court, showing untypical emotion for a Chinese sports star by ripping his shirt off at the end of a match and throwing it to the spectators.

Gunning for him, though, will be former world number one Lee Chong Wei of Malaysia, who was disappointing at the world championships and is keen to redeem himself.

"I lost in the last eight to Bao Chunlai. I was the world number one at the time and maybe I felt the pressure and that is not good for me.

"Now I am the second seed I feel no pressure," he added.

One man bidding to show he is not on the wane is Olympic and Asian Games champion Taufik Hidayat, who is at a lowly 12th in the world - however hopes are not high.

"We hope Taufik can get a medal," said Indonesia team manager Lius Pongoh.

"We're counting on him doing well but it is difficult to say whether he can challenge for the title."

Lin's fiancee Xie is a little more sober on court but the two-time world champion - whose nickname is 'Beauty' - knows that her major challenge to add the Asia title to her cabinet rests on beating her compatriot, Olympic champion Zhang Ning.

Xie - who enjoys singing and shopping in her spare time - is distinctly modest about her chances.

"I still think Zhang Ning is the best player on the planet," said the 25-year-old. "She is much more consistent than I am and that is something I have to learn."
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hahaha, posh and becks, at least this 'posh' can play the sport:p

'Posh and Becks' of badminton look for Asian glory

Agence France-Presse

Doha, November 29, 2006

The 'Posh and Becks' of badminton Lin Dan and fiancee Xie Xinfang will be looking to make up for China's disappointment at the last Asian Games by inspiring the team to a cleansweep in Doha.
Both have had a great year, winning their respective singles world titles in Madrid, and Asian Games glory would prove the proverbial icing on the wedding cake.

China underperformed in the last Games in Busan taking away just two titles when they were aiming for a cleansweep and coach Li Yongbo is well aware that while the fortunes of rivals Malaysia and Indonesia have dipped there is no fiercer battle than that of winning Asian bragging rights in badminton.

"We have improved a lot in the past few years to the extent that we are now the strongest," said Li, who like any good manager looking for a get out claimed a reason for their failure in Busan was down to the refereeing.

"However our record at the Asian Games is not so good and we are looking to improve on it."

While some back in China are merely hoping for a small improvement on last time out Li is demanding more.

"We won two titles last time now we want at least three but in fact I want more like four or five," commented Li, whose team took five of the six world titles on show in Madrid.

While Li is demanding an enormous effort from his team, the managers of the other major rivals for the gold in the team competitions are playing hopes down.

"We have high expectations but it could be quite difficult to achieve them because China and Korea are around and most of their players are at the same level," said Malaysia's Misbun Bin Sedek, coach of Hashim Muhammad Hafiz.

"Lin Dan is one step above."

Lin and Xie should be hot favourites for their respective titles.

Lin, 23, was a member of the bronze medal team four years ago but since then his career has reached dizzy heights.

The world title apart, he also turned in a phenomenal performance in the All England Open this year when he took the trophy despite injuring his knee during the tournament.

Aside from that the soldier - who when relaxing enjoys buying clothes for Xie - is a real showman on court, showing untypical emotion for a Chinese sports star by ripping his shirt off at the end of a match and throwing it to the spectators.

Gunning for him, though, will be former world number one Lee Chong Wei of Malaysia, who was disappointing at the world championships and is keen to redeem himself.

"I lost in the last eight to Bao Chunlai. I was the world number one at the time and maybe I felt the pressure and that is not good for me.

"Now I am the second seed I feel no pressure," he added.

One man bidding to show he is not on the wane is Olympic and Asian Games champion Taufik Hidayat, who is at a lowly 12th in the world - however hopes are not high.

"We hope Taufik can get a medal," said Indonesia team manager Lius Pongoh.

"We're counting on him doing well but it is difficult to say whether he can challenge for the title."

Lin's fiancee Xie is a little more sober on court but the two-time world champion - whose nickname is 'Beauty' - knows that her major challenge to add the Asia title to her cabinet rests on beating her compatriot, Olympic champion Zhang Ning.

Xie - who enjoys singing and shopping in her spare time - is distinctly modest about her chances.

"I still think Zhang Ning is the best player on the planet," said the 25-year-old. "She is much more consistent than I am and that is something I hope to learn."
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hahaha, posh and becks, at least this 'posh' can play the sport:p

thanks for that cooler! are Lin Dan and XXF going to get marry soon :eek: how long was I away from BC :D hehe :)

'Posh and Becks' of badminton look for Asian glory
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hahaha, posh and becks, at least this 'posh' can play the sport:p

:D haha :D lol :D :p

from The Star--Friday Dec 15, 2006



http://www.thestar.com.my/archives/2006/12/15/sports/85ding.jpg CHINA will investigate allegations of beating and harassment within their national cue sports team that have embarrassed the country and infuriated Asian Games team officials.
Last week, 19-year-old Zhou Mengmeng lost the women’s eight-ball pool semi-final and withdrew from the bronze medal playoff, later telling journalists she had quit because her male teammate Tian Pengfei (pic) had beaten and harassed her.
Mengmeng returned to China on Wednesday with some team members and a phalanx of sport officials, the Beijing News reported yesterday but Pengfei was not on the same plane.
“We will be thoroughly investigating this matter,” Cui Zhiqiang, China cue sports chief, told the Beijing News.
“Once the Asian Games are over, we will be collectively discussing this matter, and if there are any punishments, the sport administration will advise through official channels.”
China cue sports deputy director Wang Liwei said that Pengfei had hit Mengmeng but played down the incident and said there had been no sexual harassment, state media reported this week.
“Zhou was spending more time wandering around the sports hall chatting with foreign players than preparing for her matches,” Liwei was quoted as saying in the China Daily on Tuesday.
He added that Pengfei had tried to persuade her to prepare for the upcoming competition and the two had scuffled.
“Zhou was by no means beaten black and blue as she claims,” Liwei said. “For example, Zhou’s nails were not broken by Tian, but were the result of Zhou hitting Tian.” – Reuters



this is an important issue.. do this happen to china badminton team..? if i wasn't wrong.. an athlete in athletics from china also been canned by her coach.. i've forgotten her name ady~ use this kind of way to punish athlete.. i think this is not d best way to pressuring them