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badMania
10-24-2006, 09:38 PM
Today is the first day of main draw and there's a couple of interesting matches. Here's the selected ones for today.

MEN'S SINGLES ROUND OF 64
Jean Michel Le-Fort vs Tommy Sugiarto
Ronald Susilo vs Vladislav Druchenko

MEN'S DOUBLES ROUND OF 32
Rian Sukmawan/Eng Hian vs Chen Long/Gao Huan
Julian Hristov/Kai Waldenberger vs Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi

WOMEN'S SINGLES ROUND OF 32
Adrianti Firdasari vs Maria Ioannou
Maria Kristin Yulianti vs Maja Tvrdy

WOMEN'S DOUBLES ROUND OF 32
Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nur Sugianti vs Sabrina Jaquet/Corinne Joerg

MIXED DOUBLES ROUND OF 32
Kristoff Hopp/Birgit Overzier vs Devin Lahardi/Yunita Tetty (MATCH OF THE DAY) -- a tough opening match for the INA pair. If they can get pass this round, they might go all the way.

Hendra A. Gunawan/Endang Nur Sugianti vs Daniel Shirley/Joanna Quay Swee Ling

badMania
10-25-2006, 03:23 AM
First positive result: Devin Lahardi/Yunita Tetty have beaten Kristof Hopp/Birgit Overzier 21-18, 23-21.

badMania
10-25-2006, 04:28 AM
Tommy Sugiarto beat Jean-Michel Le Fort 21-16, 21-18. The French player was leading 16-12 in the second set before losing the match.

In the mixed, Hendra A. Gunawan/Endang Nur Sugianti have lost to Daniel Shirley/Joanna Quay Swee Ling as expected 12-21, 18-21.

badMania
10-25-2006, 05:35 AM
Ronald Susilo has beaten Vladislav Druchenko 21-11, 21-15.

badMania
10-25-2006, 07:21 AM
Adrianti Firdasari thrashed Maria Ioannou 21-2, 21-8. She's likely to face a tough match against Xu Huaiwen tomorrow.

badMania
10-25-2006, 09:30 AM
Maria Kristin Yulianti followed her team mate's path and progressed to the next round after beating the seeded player Croat player 21-13, 21-13. She will meet Li Sen of China tomorrow.

cao ci dan
10-25-2006, 11:02 AM
thankz for the results!!

Jan_BE
10-25-2006, 11:03 AM
bitburger open is in Germany :)

badMania
10-25-2006, 11:54 AM
All the other INA pairs have progressed as well.

In the MD, Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi beat Julian Hristof/Kai Waldenberger 21-6, 21-15. They will be severely tested tomorrow in the match of the day against Hendri Kurniawan Saputra/Hendra Wijaya. Even Kido/Hendra ALWAYS have difficulty in beating the Singaporean brothers! Kido mentioned to me that playing Hendri/Hendra is indeed very tough!

Meanwhile, the Djarum pair Rian Sukmawan/Eng Hian beat Chen Long/Gao Huan 21-17, 21-9. They should not have a problem beating an unknown French pair tomorrow. I think they have a high chance of becoming champions yet again!

In the WD, Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nur Sugianti saw off the Swiss pair Sabrina Jacquet/Corinne Joerg 21-18, 21-8.

byelnats
10-26-2006, 09:30 PM
Yes! Good to hear the Indonesian teams are doing well. The XD pair of Devin/Tetty beat the German Pair (?).

Btw, BadMania, is it true that Hendra A.G/Joko are actually faster than Kido/Setiawan. Boy, they must be almost like lightning. Thank's also for all the info. I can't get any information here except for this website about Indonesian's progress.

ctjcad
10-26-2006, 09:52 PM
In the MD, Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi beat Julian Hristof/Kai Waldenberger 21-6, 21-15. They will be severely tested tomorrow in the match of the day against Hendri Kurniawan Saputra/Hendra Wijaya. Even Kido/Hendra ALWAYS have difficulty in beating the Singaporean brothers! Kido mentioned to me that playing Hendri/Hendra is indeed very tough!
..hmm (correct me if i'm wrong), but aren't the 4 of them used to be teammates(at least from Pelatnas)??..sparring and playing against each other essentially every single day.;) .if so, then they must be quite familiar with each other's playing styles and instincts(strengths & weaknesses)..;) :)

badMania
10-26-2006, 11:59 PM
..hmm (correct me if i'm wrong), but aren't the 4 of them used to be teammates(at least from Pelatnas)??..sparring and playing against each other essentially every single day.;) .if so, then they must be quite familiar with each other's playing styles and instincts(strengths & weaknesses)..;) :)

I am not sure...Hendri and Hendra could have been Pelatnas rejects :cool: Sandy probably knows this better since he's more familiar with the junior and ex-Pelatnas players.

badMania
10-27-2006, 12:02 AM
Btw, BadMania, is it true that Hendra A.G/Joko are actually faster than Kido/Setiawan. Boy, they must be almost like lightning. Thank's also for all the info. I can't get any information here except for this website about Indonesian's progress.

That could be true...but as young pairs always have problems (and that includes Kido/Hendra) when playing against senior pairs who realise that they can slow the speed down and play with placements instead! That was also why Hendra A.G./Joko lost to Albertus Susanto Njoto/Yohan Wiratama Hadikusumo in the Phil Open Final! Hendra/Joko took the first set in double quick time...but...the HK pair found a way to neutralize them and won the match eventually :cool:

Sandy
10-27-2006, 06:37 AM
I am not sure...Hendri and Hendra could have been Pelatnas rejects :cool: Sandy probably knows this better since he's more familiar with the junior and ex-Pelatnas players.

in year 1997-98, Hendry Kurnia Saputra played for INA national junior team with his twin brother Wandry K.S. INA Jr team at this time were Arif Rasidi (now play for FRA), Endra Kurniawan, 2 twin double pair Hendry/Wandry K.S. and Deny Setiawan/Dony Prasetyo (no Alvent Yulianto in this time also Taufik didn't play in Junior). In girls are Atu Rosalina, Chung Siang, Vita Marissa, Eny Widyowati & Eny Erlangga.

in AJBC, INA won in boy's team and mixed double by Hendry K.S./Eny Erlangga (not strange that he played well in mixed). I think PBSI made big mistake in Pelatnas recruitment with a player/pair quote in every category. They wasted Chung Siang (I think she more promising than Atu, she tall & bigger and ever beat older player Judith Meulendijks in Jakarta Open) also they prefered to choose Deny/Dony to Pelatnas. They also keep recruited some older players more than 20 y.o to Pelatnas :rolleyes:

Hendry & Wandry moved to Singapore then (Ronald Soesilo already play there), Deny/Dony also played for Singapore then in few times.

Hendra Wijaya played for Singapore since very young (maybe 15 or 16 y.o), he played for Singapore in WJBC 2002 and he never played for INA.

Both Hendry Kurnia Saputra an Hendra Wijaya weren't rejected Pelatnas player.

badMania
10-27-2006, 06:47 AM
in AJBC, INA won in boy's team and mixed double by Hendry K.S./Eny Erlangga (not strange that he played well in mixed). I think PBSI made big mistake in Pelatnas recruitment with a player/pair quote in every category. They wasted Chung Siang (I think she more promising than Atu, she tall & bigger and ever beat older player Judith Meulendijks in Jakarta Open) also they prefered to choose Deny/Dony to Pelatnas. They also keep recruited some older players more than 20 y.o to Pelatnas :rolleyes:

Thanks for this valuable information. I am really impressed by your knowledge of the junior players, even from the late 1990s :eek:

I haven't even heard of some of the names here like Chung Siang :cool:

I know of Deny/Dony, who I think moved to SG later on.

Hmm...but I thought Hendri and Hendra are twin brothers? Loh always keep referring to them as the twins :cool:

Yudhi
10-27-2006, 07:00 AM
Thanks for this valuable information. I am really impressed by your knowledge of the junior players, even from the late 1990s :eek:

I haven't even heard of some of the names here like Chung Siang :cool:

I know of Deny/Dony, who I think moved to SG later on.

Hmm...but I thought Hendri and Hendra are twin brothers? Loh always keep referring to them as the twins :cool:
Hendri's twin brother is Wandri, in Yogyakarta now doing business.
Hendra is younger brother of his :):):)

Yudhi
10-27-2006, 07:07 AM
Heard from a reliable source that Hendry only recruited to pelatnas for mix, however dad wanted him to play double with Wandri. That's why they opt for Singapore instead.

Sandy
10-27-2006, 07:23 AM
in year 1997-98, Hendry Kurnia Saputra played for INA national junior team with his twin brother Wandry K.S. INA Jr team at this time were Arif Rasidi (now play for FRA), Endra Kurniawan, 2 twin double pair Hendry/Wandry K.S. and Deny Setiawan/Dony Prasetyo (no Alvent Yulianto in this time also Taufik didn't play in Junior). In girls are Atu Rosalina, Chung Siang, Vita Marissa, Eny Widyowati & Eny Erlangga.


correction, I mean Endra Ferianto

ctjcad
10-27-2006, 12:01 PM
Thanks for this valuable information. I am really impressed by your knowledge of the junior players, even from the late 1990s :eek:

I haven't even heard of some of the names here like Chung Siang :cool:

I know of Deny/Dony, who I think moved to SG later on.

Hmm...but I thought Hendri and Hendra are twin brothers? Loh always keep referring to them as the twins :cool:
..yes, thank you Sandy for sharing all those informations....wow, you must've been a very close follower of PBSI/Pelatnas during that time period...Explains also why Taufik had some sort of an inclination to bolt to S'pore in the early part of this decade(as he saw other players also chose to go there)...:rolleyes:
Also from your report, it's too bad PBSI/Pelatnas weren't able to recruit or keep all those players..But perhaps, at that time, there weren't any needs to recruit those players (as they still had Rexy/Ricky and then of course Tony, Halim, Candra, Sigit and others on their way up)...:rolleyes: :p ;) :cool:

ctjcad
10-27-2006, 12:04 PM
Hendri's twin brother is Wandri, in Yogyakarta now doing business.
Hendra is younger brother of his
Heard from a reliable source that Hendry only recruited to pelatnas for mix, however dad wanted him to play double with Wandri. That's why they opt for Singapore instead.
..thank you also Yudhi for the information....So from your first post, does that mean Hendra *and* Hendri are indeed, in real life, brothers/siblings??..:confused: :rolleyes: ;)

badMania
10-27-2006, 12:10 PM
..thank you also Yudhi for the information....So from your first post, does that mean Hendra *and* Hendri are indeed, in real life, brothers/siblings??..:confused: :rolleyes: ;)

Hendra is Hendri's younger brother. The same goes for Shinta Mulya Sari (their younger sister). I have also met their father (Pak Sugeng) and their youngest brother (just primary school) while watching the Singapore Satelitte 2006.

ctjcad
10-27-2006, 01:23 PM
Hendra is Hendri's younger brother. The same goes for Shinta Mulya Sari (their younger sister). I have also met their father (Pak Sugeng) and their youngest brother (just primary school) while watching the Singapore Satelitte 2006.
ok, i see, i see...it's too bad that all the siblings are not playing together for the same country/national team, but i guess that's just the way it is...:p...
btw, anyone know, what are the age differences between the 3 older boys, Shinta and the youngest boy??..
wow, the whole family, at least the kids(5 of them), are all into badminton...haha..:D and i wonder if their youngest brother also plays baddie or not??..:rolleyes: :p :D :cool:

Yudhi
10-27-2006, 08:24 PM
Hendri and Wandri were born in 81, Hendra 85, Shinta 87(not too sure)...
They have another 3-4 siblings in indonesia :):):)

badMania
10-27-2006, 09:58 PM
Hendri and Wandri were born in 81, Hendra 85, Shinta 87(not too sure)...
They have another 3-4 siblings in indonesia :):):)

It's a one big happy family :D

And YES, the youngest brother is recruited to play badminton for a secondary school. I believe it's Montford, which is pretty famous for badmintion.

Sandy
10-27-2006, 10:35 PM
..yes, thank you Sandy for sharing all those informations....wow, you must've been a very close follower of PBSI/Pelatnas during that time period...Explains also why Taufik had some sort of an inclination to bolt to S'pore in the early part of this decade(as he saw other players also chose to go there)...:rolleyes:
Also from your report, it's too bad PBSI/Pelatnas weren't able to recruit or keep all those players..But perhaps, at that time, there weren't any needs to recruit those players (as they still had Rexy/Ricky and then of course Tony, Halim, Candra, Sigit and others on their way up)...:rolleyes: :p ;) :cool:

no need to close Pelatnas, I just interested to watch some badminton tournament that held in Jakarta, especially to watch upcoming players.

I didn't concern to some Taufik's case (exception case with Wynne Prakusya, as Wynne's fan I was so angry to him he. he.). As I knew it was happened after PBSI (before Chairul Tanjung's era, maybe Subagyo HS) decided reshufle coach in Pelatnas Mulyo Handoyo, Agus Dwi Santoso, Liang Chu Sia were out Mulyo moved to Singapore then, that why Taufik want to move there too. In Chairul's era, PBSI lobying to SIN Badminton Association and Mulyo. Finally Mulyo & Taufik back to Pelatnas.

About recruitment, I'm agree for MD players but not for WS. The standard of MD was high at that time, much good players in there. Deny/Dony were eliminated then, much better players for next generation (Markis, Hendra AP, Alvent, Hendra Setiawan, Joko Riyadi etc). But I wasn't agree with strict quote in every category and they also gave same number for age 19+ :eek: . They should decide depend on player's quality and the projection in future.
If no enough quality players, PBSI should keep blank, no addition player. Otherwise 2 players who has almost same level, they should recruited 2 instead of 1.

Sandy
10-27-2006, 10:46 PM
I haven't even heard of some of the names here like Chung Siang :cool:


If you meet Judith Meulendijks, you can ask her. They ever training together in Tangkas when Junior.

Chung Siang from Bali and trained in Tangkas. She has made domination in U-15 event and had tough rivalry with Atu Rosalina when junior. PBSI recruited Atu and one 21 y.o player at that time. The talent scouter should be independent person not prefer to choose the players from his club or province.

badMania
10-27-2006, 10:46 PM
I didn't concern to some Taufik's case (exception case with Wynne Prakusya, as Wynne's fan I was so angry to him he. he.). As I knew it was happened after PBSI (before Chairul Tanjung's era, maybe Subagyo HS) decided reshufle coach in Pelatnas

Off topic:
Ahh...I didn't know you are Wynne's fan :D
Too bad she has decided to retire from professional tennis. Seems like the Asian Games gold tradition long held by the Indonesian women's tennis team will not continue this year....unless Angie, Sandy (the tennis player..hehe), and Romana perform!

badMania
10-27-2006, 10:47 PM
If you meet Judith Meulendijks, you can ask her. They ever training together in Tangkas when Junior.

Chung Siang from Bali and trained in Tangkas. She has made domination in U-15 event and had tough rivalry with Atu Rosalina when junior. PBSI recruited Atu and one 21 y.o player at that time. The talent scouter should be independent person not prefer to choose the players from his club or province.

Thanks...if she's from Tangkas...then she has high chance of being in Pelatnas?

Sandy
10-27-2006, 10:56 PM
Thanks...if she's from Tangkas...then she has high chance of being in Pelatnas?

who is chief of talent scouter in that time ?
I hoped she was selected for next year or next time but she was disappeared then, then another Tangkas player was in Mona Santoso.

ctjcad
10-28-2006, 01:01 AM
no need to close Pelatnas, I just interested to watch some badminton tournament that held in Jakarta, especially to watch upcoming players.

I didn't concern to some Taufik's case (exception case with Wynne Prakusya, as Wynne's fan I was so angry to him he. he.). As I knew it was happened after PBSI (before Chairul Tanjung's era, maybe Subagyo HS) decided reshufle coach in Pelatnas Mulyo Handoyo, Agus Dwi Santoso, Liang Chu Sia were out Mulyo moved to Singapore then, that why Taufik want to move there too. In Chairul's era, PBSI lobying to SIN Badminton Association and Mulyo. Finally Mulyo & Taufik back to Pelatnas.

About recruitment, I'm agree for MD players but not for WS. The standard of MD was high at that time, much good players in there. Deny/Dony were eliminated then, much better players for next generation (Markis, Hendra AP, Alvent, Hendra Setiawan, Joko Riyadi etc). But I wasn't agree with strict quote in every category and they also gave same number for age 19+ :eek: . They should decide depend on player's quality and the projection in future.
If no enough quality players, PBSI should keep blank, no addition player. Otherwise 2 players who has almost same level, they should recruited 2 instead of 1.
Sandy, thanks much for your input and shedding a bit more light to that Pelatnas time period..;) :cool:

ctjcad
10-28-2006, 01:04 AM
who is chief of talent scouter in that time ?
I hoped she was selected for next year or next time but she was disappeared then, then another Tangkas player was in Mona Santoso.
...wow, so that's how the story goes...and isn't it funny, you guys know what, Mona Santoso is currently playing and coaching near "my backyard", as she is now in L.A...hehehe;):rolleyes: see this link for more infos:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37220
...Maybe i can ask her who the chief talent evaluator was before she got in to Pelatnas..Or perhaps even our friend, DinkAlot, can surely attest and confirm that..;):p :D

Sandy
10-28-2006, 01:32 AM
...wow, so that's how the story goes...and isn't it funny, you guys know what, Mona Santoso is currently playing and coaching near "my backyard", as she is now in L.A...hehehe;):rolleyes: see this link for more infos:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37220
...Maybe i can ask her who the chief talent evaluator was before she got in to Pelatnas..Or perhaps even our friend, DinkAlot, can surely attest and confirm that..;):p :D

ok, also ask her where is Chung Siang now or after left from Tangkas. :cool:
I think she knew it since came from same club, I am courious about it. :D

ctjcad
10-28-2006, 02:36 AM
ok, also ask her where is Chung Siang now or after left from Tangkas. :cool:
I think she knew it since came from same club, I am courious about it. :D
..ok, got it, Sandy....Dan, you got that also?? maybe you can reach and ask her quicker than me, since you're also training with her..hehe;):) :D :cool:

yannie
02-13-2007, 09:48 AM
Yup, Hendri and Hendra are brothers in real life. Shinta told me they are 9 siblings and all playing badminton.

Shinta was born 14-06-88. She said a lot of people don't know that they are from the same family, cuz they have different surnames.