Dutch Open 2006: QUARTER-FINALS (10/11)

[badMania]

Team Indonesia is eyeing titles in MD, WD, and XD (with a small chance at WS).

MEN'S SINGLES

Bobby Milroy vs Lee Tsuen Tseng -- Bobby upsetted the top seed in 3 hard-fought sets yesterday (rubber set score is 22-20 :eek:). But, the Malaysian should have an edge.

Sairul Amar Ayob vs Rune Ulsing -- Sairul should take this one, considering his opponent is a qualifer!

Wu Yunyong vs Ajay Jayaram -- the Chinese will win.

Wong Choong Hann vs Dicky Palyama (MATCH OF THE ROUND) -- what a match..the recently recovered Malaysian vs the home player. I pick the Malaysian to win!

MEN'S DOUBLES
Rasmus Mangor Andersen/Peter Buur Steffensen vs Rian Sukmawan/Eng Hian -- a tough tie for Rian/Eng Hian. Still, I think they can win the tie.

Thomas Tesche/Michael Fuchs vs Tan Bin Shen/Ong Soon Hock -- easy for the Malaysian pair.

Vitalij Durkin/Alexandr Nikolaenko vs Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi (MATCH OF THE ROUND) -- another tricky tie for the INA no 3 pair. They should win and progress to the semi-final.

Robert Adcock/Robin Middleton vs Ashley Brehaut/Aji Sindoro Basuki -- this is the 3rd English opponents for the Australian pair. They should win since they beat the more experienced Ian Palethorpe/Kristian Roebuck yesterday.

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Li Wenyan vs Maria Kristin Yulianti -- a tricky tie for Maria and I hope she progresses!

Yao Jie vs Huang Chia-Chi (MATCH OF THE ROUND) -- Yao to win in front of the home crowd.

Wang Linling vs Pai Min Jie -- the Chinese to take it, after an impressive victory over Judith Meulendijks 2 days ago.

Petra Overzier vs Adriyanti Firdasari -- also a huge tie for Firda. Can she reach her first semi-final this year?

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Petya Nedeltcheva/Diana Dimova vs Laura Choinet/Elisa Chanteur

Mie Schjott-Kristensen/Christina Pedersen vs Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nur Sugianti (MATCH OF THE ROUND) -- tricky, but should be manageable for Rani/Endang.

Katrin Piotrowski/Michaela Peiffer vs Karina De Wit/Betty Krab

Marina Yakusheva/Elena Schimko vs Lim Pek Siah/Joanne Quay Swee Ling -- the second-seeded Malaysian pair should win.

MIXED DOUBLES
Wouter Claes/Nathalie Deschamps vs Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa -- it will be atrocious if Flandy/Vita do not win the title here!

Svetoslav Stoyanov/Elodie Eymard vs Kristian Roebuck/Natalie Munt (MATCH OF THE ROUND) -- the English pair should take it!

Robert Adcock/Sarah Bok vs Devin Lahardi/Yunita Tetty -- the INA pair should win it!

Robert Blair/Jenny Wallwork vs Sebastian Vincent/Julie Delaune

[nugroho]

agree.. but not sure with firda... what i found from the score board last couple of days firda is a defense player.. she doesn't attack alot.... she took the point from net and good placing.... but petra is quite tall... will firda able to defense here area and does some good crosscourt dropshot ?
if she can.. will be all indonesian final i suppose....
coz i think maria will be on her way to her second final in europe!!!

[Sandy]

agree.. but not sure with firda... what i found from the score board last couple of days firda is a defense player.. she doesn't attack alot.... she took the point from net and good placing.... but petra is quite tall... will firda able to defense here area and does some good crosscourt dropshot ?
if she can.. will be all indonesian final i suppose....
coz i think maria will be on her way to her second final in europe!!!

Firda isn't defense player, much defferent style with Fransisca. She tall and has agressive play with sharp smash & drop shot. She still couldn't manage her potentially. Look like will battle of same playing style.

Don't under estimate to Li Wen Yan, I think Maria will face tough opponent.

[nugroho]

maria surely has though way before her second final.. li wen ya is a chinesse.. every chinesse is a good player... and if she able to go semifinal.. she will face another chinese/dutch yao jie....

[leonardklh]

ya, i also think that all the malaysia pair will win!!!they are also advantage too!!!!
especially
LEE TSUEN SENG VS BOBBY MILROY
i think that lee tsuen tseng has an advantage!!he is malaysian experience player!!

WONG CHOONG HANN VS DICKY PALYAMA (MATCH OF THE ROUND)
i think that wong choong hann has an advantage but dicky palyama is a good player!!but not as good as wong choong hann!! but wong choong hann out for so long!! can he beat dicky palyama again?i think this will be rouble set

SAIRUL AMAR AYOB VS Rune Ulsing
sairul amar ayob will win!!and rune ulsing is very lousy!! the match is advantage to sairul amar ayOB

THOMAS TESCHE-MICHAEL FUCHS vs TAN BIN SHEN -ONG SOON HOCK-- easy for the Malaysian pair.should be no problem to enter the semi final

MARINA YAKUSHEVA-ELENA SCHIMIKO VS LIM PEK SIAH-JOANNA QUAY SWEE LING
i think malaysia should be no problem!!!easy job!!!

Conclusion: i hope all malaysian will enter the semi and final!!!if can get the dutch open title!!the most confident people will get the dutch open title is wong choong hann and all the malaysian team!!!all da best in the badminton!!!malaysia has a future!!all the best in asian games!!!! We malaysians are always support malaysia badminton!!one thing!!just must have fighting spirit!!if china can!!malaysia sure can!!!!MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!!!

[badMania]

Aww....we finally have a Malaysian supporter here! We definitely need more of u guys here!!

It's nice to see a few "Malaysia Boleh" cheers here :D

[Baderz_Jas]

don't know most of the players but WCH will win the MS! :D BOLEH :D

[cao ci dan]

Is Hafiz there??....when will WCH play??YES!!WCH BOLEH!!haha...<this is the 1st time i use this word>

[badMania]

don't know most of the players but WCH will win the MS! :D BOLEH :D

I thought u are a Chinese fan ? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Baderz_Jas]

Is Hafiz there??....when will WCH play??YES!!WCH BOLEH!!haha...<this is the 1st time i use this word>

haha :D haha :D or Boleh? :rolleyes: :D lol :D

[Baderz_Jas]

WCH's match is ment to start at 3:00 pm
the link for the schedule is http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=11917&day=92933 :) :D haha :D

[cao ci dan]

WCH's match is ment to start at 3:00 pm
the link for the schedule is http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=11917&day=92933 :) :D haha :D
:D thankz for the link!!WCH sure BOLEH!!:D lol...support the Malaysians when there's no Chinese and English!!:p

[pauline]

yea,WCH,Sairul and LTS boleh!If they win as predicted,it will be 3 M'sia 1 Chn in MS semi-finals:eek:
TBS/OSH also boleh!!

[nugroho]

wch lost his 1st set.....

[badMania]

Devin Lahardi/Yunita Tetty have progressed to the semi-finals after an easy 21-16, 21-9 victory over Robert Adcock/Sarah Bok. They will face a tough tie tomorrow against the more experienced Robert Blair/Jenny Wallwork. I hope it's gonna be an All-Indonesian Final on Sunday.

[nugroho]

dicky progress to semi ... beat WCh in 3 close sets

[Felix.]

Flandy/Vita cruised through the semifinal. 21-11 21-9. Clearly one level above the rest of the fields.
Too bad both of them can't compete in AG.

[nugroho]

flandy/vita has also progress to semi... in 2 easy sets...

[demolidor]

Dicky Palyama - Wong Choong Hann = 21-17 16-21 22-20 :cool:

Had a feeling this would be the time to get it done :) .

[Felix.]

Maria Kristin match is next.
I hope she wins the title and shove it to Hendrawan's ass.

[badMania]

Yawn...an easy victory indeed for Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa as they crushed the German pair 21-11, 21-9. Up next is Maria Kristin against Li Wenyan...a tricky tie for Maria.

[Felix.]

Maria had early lead 3-1. Keep it up.

[Felix.]

And she's down 3-6 now.

[Felix.]

Maria 6-11.
Too much errors by Maria and her opponent seemed not to give any free points.

[Felix.]

Maria tried to fight back to 11-14.
Her opponent started to break down a little. C'mon Maria!

[badMania]

Smash winners: 6 vs 1 in favor of the Chinese player as she leads 17-11 :eek:

[Felix.]

WenYan took 3 points in a row
11-17.

[Felix.]

Smash winners: 6 vs 1 in favor of the Chinese player as she leads 17-11 :eek:
Maria's strength has always been her net play. No?
Maria decided to fight back 13-17.
And another error. 13-18

[Felix.]

Two more points from Maria.
15-18.
And another error. 15-19

[Felix.]

16-19
16-20
GP Wenyan

[Felix.]

Li Wenyan took the first set 21-16

[badMania]

Hmm....Maria has lost the first set 16-21. Can she level the scores?

[Felix.]

Maria had a lousy start 1-3.
Net winner to make it 2-3.

[Felix.]

2-4
2-5
2-6
3-6
3-7

[nugroho]

i think maria going to loose this one....
:(

[badMania]

The Indonesian women singles players seem to have a mental block when playing against a Chinese player (esp the younger ones) :cool:

[Felix.]

3-8
4-8
4-9
4-10
5-10
5-11

Maria is outclassed seeing from the stats from the second set.

[Felix.]

Maria is staging a small comeback, winning four points a row.
9-11
Fight Maria!

[Felix.]

Maria levelled the match
11-11
She's playing much better now after the interval break.

[badMania]

Hmmm...6 points in a row make it 11-11 :eek:

[badMania]

Maria seems to play better at the net, with 14 net winners vs 11 for the Chinese.

[Felix.]

Maria lead 13-12 now!

[badMania]

Maria surges ahead for the first time in the match 13-12.

[Felix.]

Wenyan took back the lead after an error by Maria
16-15

[badMania]

Li vs Maria
13-14
14-14
14-15
15-15
16-15
17-15 (dangerous point)

[Felix.]

16-18. Fight Maria.

[Felix.]

17-19.
Crucial point now.

[Felix.]

3 GPs for Wenyan.

[Felix.]

Maria saved 2 MPs.
Another one to go.
Maria lost 16-21 19-21.

[Felix.]

A pity since Maria was playing really well as of late. Ah well.

[badMania]

Li vs Maria
18-15
18-16
19-16
19-17
20-17
20-18
20-19
21-19

The Chinese player Li Wenyan has won in straight sets 21-17, 21-19. Nevertheless, nice to see the never-die spirit in Maria. She kept her cool even till the end!

[badMania]

Up next is another tough tie between the Djarum pair Rian Sukmawan/Eng Hian and Rasmus Mangor Andersen/Peter Buur Steffensen.

[2cents]

wow, these is no hope for INA women. Even their best one lost to a Chinese who trained herself without any sponsorships.

[2cents]

there are hundreds of players in China better than Li Wenyan, INA may need to import Chinese players to stay in women's competition, sigh

[2cents]

Tsuen Seng LEE seems in good shape. He is also the best at Denmark Open among all the players here playing the Dutch open. So he's been in good shape for a while. He may take the title this time, just cannot find anyone better :eek: :D :eek:

[badMania]

Rian Sukmawan/Eng Hian are in fiery form as they completely dominate the game, winning in straight sets 21-14, 21-12. At one stage, they got 12 consecutive points in a row, from leading 15-14 in the first set to winning the first set and leading 6-0 in the second set :eek: They will probably face Tan Bin Shen/Ong Soon Hock tomorrow...definitely a tough match for them!

[Felix.]

wow, these is no hope for INA women. Even their best one lost to a Chinese who trained herself without any sponsorships.

Ever heard of off-day? :rolleyes:
Maria is playing her third week in a row.

[zqloy]

Aww....we finally have a Malaysian supporter here! We definitely need more of u guys here!!

It's nice to see a few "Malaysia Boleh" cheers here :D

Haha why? Because we Malaysians r the always the noisiest? :p:p:p

[2cents]

hey, badMania or other experts out there, I got a question for you, is Maria Kristin YULIANTI an ethnic Chinese also? Is Adriyanti FIRDASARI an ethnic Chinese? like Mia?

Look at the dutch open draw, especially the women singles, there are also all Chinese, except Petra OVERZIER

[2cents]

Ever heard of off-day? :rolleyes:
Maria is playing her third week in a row.

haha, Le wenyan is also busy week after week. Nowadays, everybody's busy :cool:

[hcpoirot]

Maria Kristin, Firdasari and Mia. Only Firdasari is from China ethnic if I am not wrong.

[extremenanopowe]

Malaysia boleh, indonesia bisa and the rest ok oso.:D
enjoy the games!:D

[2cents]

Maria Kristin, Firdasari and Mia. Only Firdasari is from China ethnic if I am not wrong.

I'm sure Mia is an ethnic Chinese even though she looks more like a native Indonesian.

Then only Maria Kristin left unchecked.

[2cents]

I remember that Indonesia government used to request Chinese have some special sign on their names, right? How to distinguish Chinese from native Indonesian from their names? Thanks a lot in advance.

[badMania]

Mia Audina is a Chinese-Indonesian.

The others are not. Firda is a Muslim.

[2cents]

Mia Audina is a Chinese-Indonesian.

The others are not. Firda is a Muslim.

That explains why Indonesia women's downhill trends. Where are the new generation of Chinese-Indonesian? INA really needs Susi, Mia... Chinese-Indonesians to join the national team.

[badMania]

We are getting out of topic here :cool:

Anyway, there's a number of upcoming junior players like Sylvinna Kurniawan (whom I believe is a Chinese-Indonesian). Sandy is probably the person to ask since he's more familiar with the juniors.

[hcpoirot]

If I had to pick who won the MS title?

It will be probably Dicky or Wu Yun Yong.

[nugroho]

is yao jie going to ....????

[badMania]

Huang Chia-Chi is a tough nut to crack :cool:
Maria was quite lucky to have beaten her last week.

[hcpoirot]

@2cents, out of topic again :D

Mia is not from Chinese etnic. From what I can remember the top Chinese etnic Indonesia WS were:

Ivana Lie, Imelda, Verawaty Fajrin, Susi Susanti and Sarwendah.

After them there awere some promising players but never as good as the above.

[badMania]

Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nur Sugianti continue their bid to gain their first title as they beat the Danish pair in 2 straight sets 21-17, 21-11. They should meet the top seed Petya Nedeltcheva/Diana Dimova tomorrow.

[2cents]

sorry out of topic again

I knew we were talking about live scores, I am just more interested in digging out the deep reason behind those scores, and finding the pattern of them.

Sorry again, I stop here

[Felix.]

We are getting out of topic here :cool:

Anyway, there's a number of upcoming junior players like Sylvinna Kurniawan (whom I believe is a Chinese-Indonesian). Sandy is probably the person to ask since he's more familiar with the juniors.
Sylvinna is prolly one of the most promosing junior that i've seen so far. Much better than Pia and yes she's Chinese.

Rani/Endang won their match in straight sets 21-17, 21-11.

[badMania]

@2cents, out of topic again :D

Mia is not from Chinese etnic. From what I can remember the top Chinese etnic Indonesia WS were:

Ivana Lie, Imelda, Verawaty Fajrin, Susi Susanti and Sarwendah.

After them there awere some promising players but never as good as the above.

Err...unfortunately, u are wrong! Mia's Chinese name is Zhang Haili. Susi's Chinese name is Wang Lianxiang.

[badMania]

Sylvinna is prolly one of the most promosing junior that i've seen so far. Much better than Pia and yes she's Chinese.


Sandy has also mentioned some good stuffs about Sylvinna Kurniawan. Where did you see her play? As I mentioned in the Singapore Satellite thread, I watched a young Chinese-Indonesian player (Melicia Kurniawan) being trained by the ex-Pelatnas coach Liang Chiu Hsia, and probably representing Tangkas. She still looked pretty raw and probably lack the match experience.

I also saw Djarum's boss in Singapore, Pak Victor Hartono.

Here's a small excerpt from Bola on his comments regarding the upcoming Kejurnas in Medan (National Championships).


Semua tahu PB Djarum adalah klub bulutangkis terbesar di Tanah Air. Seperti mata air yang tak pernah kering, klub yang didukung perusahaan rokok ini terus melahirkan pemain bintang. Namun, di kancah Kejurnas Bulutangkis 2006 di Medan, mereka tidak berani sesumbar.

“Kami terus terang tidak berani sesumbar optimistis bakal juara. Paling-paling berusaha yang terbaik saja,” sebut CEO PT Djarum Kudus, Victor R. Hartono. Mengapa bos Djarum ini tidak berani berkoar pada perhelatan di GOR Unimed, Medan, 14-18 November, karena menurutnya kekuatan klub-klub di Tanah Air sekarang demikian merata. Djarum, Tangkas Bogasari Jakarta, Jayaraya Jakarta, Suryanaga Surabaya, atau SGS Bandung memiliki kemampuan setara.

[**KZ**]

tan bin shen and ong soon hock seems to be strugglign a little.....it's been awhile since we've seen them reaching a quarter final....
good thing is guaranteed m'sian representative in finals as lee tsuen seng faces sairul tommorow....i think if all goes well lee tsuen seng will win his 2nd dutch open........m'sia boleh

[**KZ**]

tan bin shen/ong soon hock won it 21-11 21-14.....tough match tommorow but i really hope they can make their first finals in a long time

[Sandy]

We are getting out of topic here :cool:

Anyway, there's a number of upcoming junior players like Sylvinna Kurniawan (whom I believe is a Chinese-Indonesian). Sandy is probably the person to ask since he's more familiar with the juniors.

yes Sylvinna is Chinese Indonesian

Maria, Firda & Fransisca aren't Chinese ethnic also Sarwendah (some people wrong think about her).
Some girl's players from this ethnic already out from Pelatnas because of injury : Wiwis Meyliana, Rosaria Pungkasari from Djarum.

[Sandy]

Sandy has also mentioned some good stuffs about Sylvinna Kurniawan. Where did you see her play? As I mentioned in the Singapore Satellite thread, I watched a young Chinese-Indonesian player (Melicia Kurniawan) being trained by the ex-Pelatnas coach Liang Chiu Hsia, and probably representing Tangkas. She still looked pretty raw and probably lack the match experience.

I also saw Djarum's boss in Singapore, Pak Victor Hartono.

Here's a small excerpt from Bola on his comments regarding the upcoming Kejurnas in Medan (National Championships).



Talking about Djarum club.
Currently Djarum placed the most player but not the top player. This is effect of 90s Djarum cut the budget of Badminton club because any Trading Regulation by BPPC in "Orde Baru" era.
Looking the some results in end of 90s and early 2000s, Djarum wasn't as dominate as last 3 years. In that time Tangkas was better than other clubs.

[2cents]

Mia Audina is a Chinese-Indonesian.

The others are not. Firda is a Muslim.

Chinese is an ethnic group, Indonesia is another. But Muslin is a religion. People can always change their religion anytime with or without reasons. While people cannot chance their ethnic group, cannot change their race.

There are lots of Muslim in China itself. So there must more Chinese Muslim in Indonesia, because Indo is a Muslim country. And also most people may deny they are Chinese even though they are ethnic Chinese.

So, Firda could be a Chinese-Indonesian, and Muslim as well.

[nugroho]

firdasari remain the only indonesian in the last quarter WS won in 3 sets 16-21, 21-14, 21-14. make an upset again after the other 3 quarter finalist have been beaten by the their oppennent...

first quarter was won by chinesse wich upsetting the up comeback indonesian WS maria kristin yulianti .21-16, 21-19

the second quarter provided the top 10 player lost Yao jie by australian player in rubber sets 21-23,21-17,21-14

third quarter dislayed min jie pai beaten by wang linling from china in 3 sets 21-13,16-21,21-19

[nugroho]

hendra/joko have booked their semifinal by beating unseeded rusian pair in the last match this evening in 3 sets. they leading quite easily in the last sets, won by 21-12 after 2 close encounter in 2 preveous sets 21-18,19-21.

has been a good day for indonesia today, by only lost one player in quarterfinal round.

[Syaoran_Style]

I'm so happy !! the french pair Stoyanov/Eymard are in semi final ! =)
Great achievement for france ! ^^

[Baderz_Jas]

Dicky Palyama - Wong Choong Hann = 21-17 16-21 22-20 :cool:

Had a feeling this would be the time to get it done :) .

oh, unlucky WCH :( ;) :) he's still not in the form he was in :D :p

[yannie]

I'm so happy !! the french pair Stoyanov/Eymard are in semi final ! =)
Great achievement for france ! ^^

But tomorrow the French pair will be grilled by Flandy and Marissa *ha... right Tarek? :p

[taufik-ist]

Chinese is an ethnic group, Indonesia is another. But Muslin is a religion. People can always change their religion anytime with or without reasons. While people cannot chance their ethnic group, cannot change their race.

There are lots of Muslim in China itself. So there must more Chinese Muslim in Indonesia, because Indo is a Muslim country. And also most people may deny they are Chinese even though they are ethnic Chinese.

So, Firda could be a Chinese-Indonesian, and Muslim as well.

you are wrong, man

firda is from 'aceh etnic'
just becos her face is typical chinese .. you also gues she's a chinese :p