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indra
10-31-2006, 03:35 AM
Having read an article in media Indonesia today on TH's statement that he will show to the world that he would defend his title made me optimistic that Taufik will come out as the champion.
Taufik said that he was healthy and not injured. His mind is set on Doha...
His recent defeats by Chinese players will not affect him at all.....He is very optimistic to win the gold....:D
I hope he will not get any back or waist injury again.
Rainofserenity
10-31-2006, 04:35 AM
I really want him to win!!! GO TAUFIK!!!!!!!!
kemana
10-31-2006, 04:35 AM
Having read an article in media Indonesia today on TH's statement that he will show to the world that he would defend his title made me optimistic that Taufik will come out as the champion.
Taufik said that he was healthy and not injured. His mind is set on Doha...
His recent defeats by Chinese players will not affect him at all.....He is very optimistic to win the gold....:D
thank you for the info ~~:)
when did he say this?
phaarix
10-31-2006, 04:42 AM
GL to him - I hope he plays just as he did during this years (yes this years) WC. I think his frame of mind was just perfect there, even with the loss to CH. If he's in that same frame of mind in Doha then I think he has just as good a chance as LD, and possibly better than LCW (who has been pretty unpredictable recently) and CJ etc. And having lost to CH twice recently I guess it's a bonus to him that he is not going :D.
Baderz_Jas
10-31-2006, 09:44 AM
I hope he will not get any back or waist injury again.
yep! :rolleyes: ;) :D want to see him play like in last year's WC (when he won :D )
ctjcad
10-31-2006, 10:56 AM
..indra, sorry i couldn't find that article online...
in the meantime, indra, babonimut, or anyone else willing to help us with the translation-thanks in advance..;) :cool: .
http://suarapembaruan.com/News/2006/10/31/index.html
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Taufik Konsentrasi ke Asian Games
[JAKARTA] Pebultangkis tunggal putra andalan Indonesia, Taufik Hidayat tidak dikirim mengikuti turnamen apapun setelah Invitasi Piala Dunia di China, karena harus konsentrasi dan fokus untuk menghadapi Asian Games (AG) Doha 2006 yang akan berlangsung 1-15 Desember mendatang. Sebenarnya, ada turnamen besar sebelum AG digelar, yakni Denmark Terbuka, turnamen berbintang lima yang digelar pekan ini.
"Dia tidak boleh bertanding lagi karena kalau terlalu banyak bertanding performanya akan cepat menurun," kata ketua Bidang Pembinaan Prestasi PB PBSI, Rudy Hartono di Jakarta, Senin (30/10).
Menurut Rudy, Taufik yang sudah berusia di atas 25 tahun, dinilai tidak mampu lagi mengikuti tiga turnamen berturut-turut. "Dia sudah tidak bisa mengikuti turnamen berturut-turut seperti itu, kecuali kalau kondisi fisiknya ditingkatkan. Dia harus memilih kejuaraan yang penting-penting saja," tambah Rudy.
Pemain paling senior itu, yang pekan lalu memberi pebulutangkis nomor satu dunia dari China, Lin Dan kemenangan WO (walk-over) pada semifinal Invitasi Piala Dunia di China, karena cedera pinggang, diharapkan tidak mengalami cedera berat.
Pemain Pelapis
"Mudah-mudahan dia tidak sakit parah supaya bisa tampil di Asian Games," katanya.
Terakhir, Taufik mengikuti tiga turnamen berturut-turut yakni Jepang dan China Terbuka serta Invitasi Piala Dunia.
Mengomentari hasil yang dicapai tunggal putra lainnya, Tommy Sugiarto di kejuaraan Bitburger Terbuka di Luksemburg, Rudy berharap Tommy akan segera menjadi pemain pelapis. Pada kejuaraan bintang dua itu, anak juara dunia 1983 Icuk Sugiarto itu mencapai babak kedua. "Kita sedang mencari pemain tunggal putra karena sektor itu yang paling paceklik sekarang ini," katanya.
Dia berharap, Tommy dan Andreas Adityawarman diproyeksikan untuk segera menjadi pelapis bahkan menjadi pemain utama tunggal putra yang selama ini praktis hanya mengandalkan Taufik, Sony Dwi Kuncoro, dan Simon Santoso. [W-11]
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cooler
10-31-2006, 11:04 AM
GL to him - I hope he plays just as he did during this years (yes this years) WC. I think his frame of mind was just perfect there, even with the loss to CH. If he's in that same frame of mind in Doha then I think he has just as good a chance as LD, and possibly better than LCW (who has been pretty unpredictable recently) and CJ etc. And having lost to CH twice recently I guess it's a bonus to him that he is not going :D.well, he dont has to worry about CH, CH won't be there as per LYB, one less potential TH killer:D This time he may has to face LD if taufik has a chance to win:p
madbad
10-31-2006, 11:49 AM
I don't think he has to worry about LD either in MS competition as LYB's fielding BCL and CJ. Taufik should make the SF at least. A very much weakened field in view of the 2 players per country quota will allow all the big names, including Taufik, to pretty much walk through to the SF.
In the team competition, if CHN and INA meet, then LD and Taufik will clash.
indra
10-31-2006, 07:44 PM
This is my translation....sorry I could not find the on-line Media Indonesia either
..indra,
Taufik to Focus on Asian Games
[JAKARTA] Taufik Hidayat will not be fielded in any tournament after the recently-concluded Invitational World CUp in China as he has to concentrate and focus on AG in Doha 2006 scheduled for 1-15 December 2006. As such, Taufik will not be participating in the 5-star Denmark Open held this week.
"It is enough for him now because forcing him to play too much will not make any good to his stamina," said Head of PBSI's Player Development Center , Rudy Hartono in Jakarta, Monday (30/10).
According to Rudy, Taufik now aged 25 will not be able to perform well if he is forced to play in three consecutive tournaments. " He no longer can do that unless his physical fitness is improved. He should play in important tournaments only ," said Rudy.
Last week TH decided to give a WO victory to LD in the WC's SF due to his waist injury. We hope that he is not seriously injured.
Second-tier players
"Hopefully. he is not seriously injured so that he can play in the AG ," he said.
Commenting on what another second-tier MS shuttler, Tommy Sugiarto, achieved in the Bitburger Open in Luxemburgh, Rudy hoped that Tommy would soon join the second-tier shuttler. In the 2* tournament the son of Icuk SUgiarto only reached the second round. " We are looking for potential MS players," katanya.
Tommy and Andreas Adityawarman are being groomed to be the second layer and are expected to replace Taufik, Sony Dwi Kuncoro, and Simon Santoso in the not so distance future. [W-11]
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kemana
10-31-2006, 07:51 PM
thank you indra for the translation :)
CLELY
10-31-2006, 11:07 PM
TH's big project in 2006 definitely AG Gold. He looked very relax as I watched in infotainment program 2 days ago. He interviewed after his participation on AG parade 'Follow the Flame' as one of AG Gold Medalist and said another mysterious statement : "Wait the next episode from me!" (hopefully good episode not WO again)
baihaki_as
11-01-2006, 12:21 AM
ok let's see can he win this
indra
11-01-2006, 03:02 AM
TH's big project in 2006 definitely AG Gold. He looked very relax as I watched in infotainment program 2 days ago. He interviewed after his participation on AG parade 'Follow the Flame' as one of AG Gold Medalist and said another mysterious statement : "Wait the next episode from me!" (hopefully good episode not WO again)
No...he will defeat LD, CJ, BAO in straight sets...:D
ctjcad
11-01-2006, 03:04 AM
This is my translation....sorry I could not find the on-line Media Indonesia either
thanks again, indra, for doing the translation for us all...;) :cool:
ctjcad
11-01-2006, 03:06 AM
No...he will defeat LD, CJ, BAO in straight sets...:D
..hehehe, i like that enthusiasm, indra...;):p :rolleyes: :D
baihaki_as
11-01-2006, 10:58 AM
i think before that lcw has beat one of them
*izzyC*
11-03-2006, 04:41 AM
I don't think he has to worry about LD either in MS competition as LYB's fielding BCL and CJ.
:confused: I thought that China is going to field LD and BCL for the MS competition. CJ is only there for the team competition.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37354
virusvoodoo
11-03-2006, 05:27 AM
No...he will defeat LD, CJ, BAO in straight sets...:D
Yeah just like you said he "will" in the previous tournaments right?
I think the word is "should" not will as we do not know what Taufik is capable nowaday due to his form and condition.
baihaki_as
11-03-2006, 05:59 AM
i think the word have much better :-)
yes i want to know who will play for ms is it Lin dan Or Chen Jin
taufik-ist
11-03-2006, 07:00 AM
Yeah just like you said he "will" in the previous tournaments right?
I think the word is "should" not will as we do not know what Taufik is capable nowaday due to his form and condition.
at least with that form and condition he could still beat LCW (JO 2006) and he didin't lose to 'eric pang' (World cup 2006)... he..he
i'm still sure that TH will qualify to THE final and will meet LIn dan
Chu Liuxiang
11-03-2006, 07:48 AM
at least with that form and condition he could still beat LCW (JO 2006) and he didin't lose to 'eric pang' (World cup 2006)... he..he
i'm still sure that TH will qualify to THE final and will meet LIn dan
Base on current world ranking, Taufik may only be seeded 5-8 seed and may meet with Lin Dan in quarterfinal.:D
Baderz_Jas
11-03-2006, 10:02 AM
Base on current world ranking, Taufik may only be seeded 5-8 seed and may meet with Lin Dan in quarterfinal.:D
true :D maybe a repeat of Hong Kong Open? :rolleyes: :D ;) just joking :D hehe :D
cooler
11-04-2006, 05:40 AM
i'm still sure that TH will qualify to THE final and will meet LIn dan
u sounded a bit errr... uncertain, lack of confidence there:p
TH go the asian game to win, right? Why just qualify but lose and waste his time, right? :D :p
cooler
11-04-2006, 05:46 AM
..hehehe, i like that enthusiasm, indra...;):p :rolleyes: :D
i doubt he's willing to 'bet' on TH.
Cheering and betting own money are 2 different things;)
Like horse racing, given LD track record, u can guess which player a real betting man would bet on;)
taufik-ist
11-04-2006, 07:01 AM
true :D maybe a repeat of Hong Kong Open? :rolleyes: :D ;) just joking :D hehe :D
that's not funny :D
he'd rather die on court than walk over :D , this asian games is very important, it's like olympic. suppose th walked Over , I bet His father in law would tell amy to divorce him :)
cao ci dan
11-04-2006, 08:57 AM
that's not funny :D
he'd rather die on court than walk over :D , this asian games is very important, it's like olympic. suppose th walked Over , I bet His father in law would tell amy to divorce him :)
:D this is funny then!:D yeah...i don't think he'll w/o again!!;) it's AG!!
Wildstone
11-04-2006, 09:39 PM
that's not funny :D
he'd rather die on court than walk over :D , this asian games is very important, it's like olympic. suppose th walked Over , I bet His father in law would tell amy to divorce him :)
I think he'll rather wo than getting beaten on court, makes him look better. Different story on the divorce thing though, hehehehe.
Felicia_txh
11-05-2006, 12:55 AM
Hope he can do wat he said!!!However,i don think he can make it!!!:confused:
indra
11-05-2006, 07:42 PM
i doubt he's willing to 'bet' on TH.
Cheering and betting own money are 2 different things;)
Like horse racing, given LD track record, u can guess which player a real betting man would bet on;)
In this AG, I still bet on TH, even TH vs LCW (1/16), CJ (QF), BAO (SF) and LD (Final) I am optimistic 1000%, TH will win...The atmosphere is different now....
bananaboy
11-05-2006, 07:52 PM
In this AG, I still bet on TH, even TH vs LCW (1/16), CJ (QF), BAO (SF) and LD (Final) I am optimistic 1000%, TH will win...The atmosphere is different now....
Didn't you post this same prediction during World Championship 06, only using different words???:confused: Oh... the atmosphere is different now, does that mean he feels more lucky because Chen Hong(whom is suppose to suffer from Taufik-phobia) won't be beating him this time since he won't be there???:D
pjswift
11-05-2006, 08:31 PM
In this AG, I still bet on TH, even TH vs LCW (1/16), CJ (QF), BAO (SF) and LD (Final) I am optimistic 1000%, TH will win...The atmosphere is different now....
It's not so much the atmosphere in the AG. With two players per country, TH only needs stamina for 2 CHN MS and he's likely to only face one. It's not like the usual IBF Open MS final which is more like a fitness competition. But I would still prefer LCW to win altho it's hard to tell how his recent accident can affect his performance. So there's no better time than the AG to beat LD. And he's got to build his stamina to last one hour of high speed play. Can he do it?
indra
11-05-2006, 09:34 PM
Didn't you post this same prediction during World Championship 06, only using different words???:confused: Oh... the atmosphere is different now, does that mean he feels more lucky because Chen Hong(whom is suppose to suffer from Taufik-phobia) won't be beating him this time since he won't be there???:D
China Team are not good in Games-Type COmpetition (AG, Olympic)....:D
On the other hand, INA has always been very strong!!!!:D
That's why the atmosphere is different!!!
LYB is VERY, VERY SMART not to field CH and replaced by CJ...because LYB knows VERY VERY well that CH's recent two victories over TH are not convincing in nature....LYB knows that TH is improving better and better from his injury...and one day TH will "swallow" all Chinese shuttlers:D and the D-Day is the AG.
phaarix
11-05-2006, 10:18 PM
Any of CJ, TH or LCW win and I'm happy :). It will take all their efforts to beat LD though!
virusvoodoo
11-06-2006, 12:13 AM
China Team are not good in Games-Type COmpetition (AG, Olympic)....:D
On the other hand, INA has always been very strong!!!!:D
That's why the atmosphere is different!!!
LYB is VERY, VERY SMART not to field CH and replaced by CJ...because LYB knows VERY VERY well that CH's recent two victories over TH are not convincing in nature....LYB knows that TH is improving better and better from his injury...and one day TH will "swallow" all Chinese shuttlers:D and the D-Day is the AG.
Well I just hope you won't dissappear for a week when he is defeated in the earlier rounds just like you did with WC'06, China Open, and World Cup.
cooler
11-06-2006, 12:44 AM
Well I just hope you won't dissappear for a week when he is defeated in the earlier rounds just like you did with WC'06, China Open, and World Cup.
the 'unconvincing win' is new one to add to the 'TH didn't try' excuse;)
phaarix
11-06-2006, 05:13 AM
the 'unconvincing win' is new one to add to the 'TH didn't try' excuse;)
Yeah, I don't think there was anything unconvincing with Chen Hong's victories. They were close sure, but a win is a win. And he's won against TH twice recently, there's nothing saying he couldn't do it again... That said, I do hope I see TH on form at Doha and no drama :).
DinkAlot
11-06-2006, 05:27 AM
His recent defeats by Chinese players will not affect him at all.....He is very optimistic to win the gold....:D
Riiiiiiiight. I'll believe it when I see it. :p
phaarix
11-06-2006, 05:35 AM
One of these days TH will win something again, and we won't hear the end of it from indra :D.
DinkAlot
11-06-2006, 05:40 AM
One of these days TH will win something again, and we won't hear the end of it from indra :D.
Unfortunately, I doubt TH will ever win a tourney again. But I hope he does.
phaarix
11-06-2006, 05:48 AM
I'm sure he'll win the odd tournament :). But he won't be anything like Lin Dan winning many consecutively!
Baderz_Jas
11-06-2006, 07:11 AM
I'm sure he'll win the odd tournament :). But he won't be anything like Lin Dan winning many consecutively!
yep, I hope he does win something even if it's small :) Lin Dan won 7 titles this year already! :eek: :D
bananaboy
11-06-2006, 10:13 AM
LYB is VERY, VERY SMART not to field CH and replaced by CJ...because LYB knows VERY VERY well that CH's recent two victories over TH are not convincing in nature....LYB knows that TH is improving better and better from his injury...and one day TH will "swallow" all Chinese shuttlers:D and the D-Day is the AG.
If we consider LYB to be very, very smart because he knows that much... then Indra you must be like a superior being to know what LYB knows... are you someone send by a higher life-form above the sky to tell us what will happen in badminton tournaments ahead of time, so we don't carry too much false hope.:p
Baderz_Jas
11-06-2006, 10:24 AM
If we consider LYB to be very, very smart because he knows that much... then Indra you must be like a superior being to know what LYB knows... are you someone send by a higher life-form above the sky to tell us what will happen in badminton tournaments ahead of time, so we don't carry too much false hope.:p
haha, lol, so funny! :D :p he might be :D :p just joking :p :D
2cents
11-06-2006, 03:54 PM
No...he will defeat LD, CJ, BAO in straight sets...:D
Taufik cannot meet CJ in Doha. For team events, Taufik is the first single while CJ is the 3rd single, will not meet each other. For individual event, CJ will not play for individuals. So Taufik will not have the chance to defeat CJ in straight sets at Doha. :cool:
So if you say too much without thinking, people will not value what you say
jamesd20
11-06-2006, 04:01 PM
For individual event, CJ will not play for individuals.
Really, Why is this? I thought CJ was picked at the expense of CH.
Baderz_Jas
11-06-2006, 04:54 PM
Really, Why is this? I thought CJ was picked at the expense of CH.
for the team matches, but each country is only allowed 2 players/pairs in each events :) so Lin Dan and BCL will be playing the individual event :)
Baderz_Jas
11-06-2006, 04:55 PM
but it's okay :D Chen Jin has lots of chances when Lin Dan, BCL, etc. :D are gone ;)
phaarix
11-06-2006, 06:58 PM
but it's okay :D Chen Jin has lots of chances when Lin Dan, BCL, etc. :D are gone ;)
That's true, but I still wish he could have played :(.
baihaki_as
11-06-2006, 07:01 PM
Taufik will win this tournament for sure, Lin Dan surely will lost before he meet taufik
indra
11-06-2006, 07:06 PM
Taufik cannot meet CJ in Doha. For team events, Taufik is the first single while CJ is the 3rd single, will not meet each other. For individual event, CJ will not play for individuals. So Taufik will not have the chance to defeat CJ in straight sets at Doha. :cool:
So if you say too much without thinking, people will not value what you say
That's OK for me if people will not value what I say....
I am only expressing what I feel and think...It is only opinions:D
DinkAlot
11-06-2006, 07:07 PM
That's OK for me if people will not value what I say....
I am only expressing what I feel and think...It is only opinions:D
Indra: I am expressing what you are feeling here:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=463857#post463857
:D :D :D
madbad
11-06-2006, 07:12 PM
To all of you making bold "predictions" for your heroes, please let's think about how you make your statements. Issuing in-your-face declarations can only lead to incendiary retorts and deterioration of the thread. I'm not the first to say this and I bet I won't be the last. So can we all either show a little subtlety or provide logical reasons to back your boast.
baihaki_as
11-06-2006, 07:29 PM
do u need a logical reason ok
Taifuk will win AG why because his father in law is the chief of KONI now, i think he wouldn't be happy if taufik fails so the preasure comes from his family now and surely it will be a different motivation for taufik himself and you know what happen if taufik in the best form
the problem that taufik face now is the scoring system he still need for adaption but i'm sure there's a different story in AG
"1%Logical99%Fanastism"
pjswift
11-06-2006, 08:03 PM
That's OK for me if people will not value what I say....
I am only expressing what I feel and think...It is only opinions:D
Agree. It's ok with me. Better than 2cents reeling off of statistics and jumping to startling conclusions without much thinking. (it seems...)
2cents
11-06-2006, 08:42 PM
Agree. It's ok with me. Better than 2cents reeling off of statistics and jumping to startling conclusions without much thinking. (it seems...)
sorry pjswift, next time, I will do a little bit more tutoring for you ;) between steps lead to my conclusions. You also got to raise your hand immediately when you got lost :D
cao ci dan
11-07-2006, 12:51 AM
Taufik will win this tournament for sure, Lin Dan surely will lost before he meet taufik
Lin Dan will win this tournament for sure, Taufik surely will lost before he meet taufik
:cool: emm...this will be much more better!!
Pete LSD
11-07-2006, 12:59 AM
Ahhhhh, this is turning into a mini Jerry Springer show :p.
cao ci dan
11-07-2006, 01:32 AM
Lin Dan will win this tournament for sure, Taufik surely will lost before he meet taufik
:cool: emm...this will be much more better!!
:o :o :o embarrassing...should be Lin Dan!!:crying: :D
taufik-ist
11-07-2006, 05:34 AM
a thread about taufik always gets longer and longer :)
he..he
phaarix
11-07-2006, 06:09 AM
That's OK for me if people will not value what I say....
I am only expressing what I feel and think...It is only opinions:D
Yeah it's cool that it's your opinion :). But sometimes you can get a little extreme you have to admit :D!
DinkAlot
11-07-2006, 06:53 AM
Ahhhhh, this is turning into a mini Jerry Springer show :p.
Have you even watch a Jerry Springer Show? This is not that bad. :p
DinkAlot
11-07-2006, 06:54 AM
a thread about taufik always gets longer and longer :)
he..he
Of course, after all, it's about Taufik. :p
2cents
11-07-2006, 07:17 AM
That's OK for me if people will not value what I say....
I am only expressing what I feel and think...It is only opinions:D
Your opinions must be based on facts :)
If you had said, TH will beat LD in straight sets in Doha, that would be okay. But what you said was "TH will beat LD, BCL, CJ, all of them in straight sets in Doha", that's against facts. :o
It's like you said "TH will beat Peter Gade in straight sets in Doha", that'll be wrong. Because it won't happen for sure.
So i think it'd better say "TH will beat LD and BCL in straight sets" or "TH will beat whoever he meets in Doha".
I'm just helping you, to make your opinion more convincing, nothing else. If your opinion is against facts, people will think you are joking. ;)
DinkAlot
11-07-2006, 07:21 AM
I'm just helping you, to make your opinion more convincing, nothing else. If your opinion is against facts, people will think you are joking. ;)
What? You mean Indra's not joking?! :eek: ...;) ...:p
taufik-ist
11-07-2006, 07:28 AM
Your opinions must be based on facts :)
If you had said, TH will beat LD in straight sets in Doha, that would be okay. But what you said was "TH will beat LD, BCL, CJ, all of them in straight sets in Doha", that's against facts. :o
It's like you said "TH will beat Peter Gade in straight sets in Doha", that'll be wrong. Because it won't happen for sure.
So i think it'd better say "TH will beat LD and BCL in straight sets" or "TH will beat whoever he meets in Doha".
I'm just helping you, to make your opinion more convincing, nothing else. If your opinion is against facts, people will think you are joking. ;)
at least, TH has a capability to beat LD and Ch or anyone in stright sets :) ...
Baderz_Jas
11-07-2006, 09:51 AM
at least, TH has a capability to beat LD and Ch or anyone in stright sets :) ...
I don't think so ;) :) :p but we will see when they play ;) :D
saugusli
11-07-2006, 10:00 AM
Hi ALL.
Anyway, TH easy to beat all peoples in this forum....haaa...
I don't think so ;) :) :p but we will see when they play ;) :D
Baderz_Jas
11-07-2006, 10:09 AM
Hi ALL.
Anyway, TH easy to beat all peoples in this forum....haaa...
apart form Jonas Rasmussen and Thomas Laybourn in Doubles :D lol :D ;) :p :)
DinkAlot
11-07-2006, 02:08 PM
Hi ALL.
Anyway, TH easy to beat all peoples in this forum....haaa...
No way, I'm confident I can beat TH.
Beat him in a pizza eating contest that is. :p
pjswift
11-08-2006, 01:08 AM
sorry pjswift, next time, I will do a little bit more tutoring for you ;) between steps lead to my conclusions. You also got to raise your hand immediately when you got lost :D
sorry to inadvertently dent your ego. On second thoughts,both you and Indra 's input are refreshing because there's a 'childlike' (read enthusiastic) quality to them.So do keep posting, they liven up the pages. However, don't take Indra too seriously. He's a good sport, can laugh at himself ( X factor!), is immune to jibes and the "best scenario painter" on BC. So when he says TH can take down all CHN MS in straight sets, it is improbable but not impossible. TH may just be in super duper top top form and Team CHN come down with mass food poisoning. After all, this is sports. Anything can happen.
cooler
11-08-2006, 01:33 AM
So when he says TH can take down all CHN MS in straight sets, it is improbable but not impossible. .........Anything can happen.
of course that scenario is very possible, like in the realm of TH and indra's dream;)
madbad
11-08-2006, 01:44 AM
Team CHN come down with mass food poisoning. After all, this is sports. Anything can happen.
What, like at the end of the Premiership last season. Can't remember the exact teams involved (West Ham, Tottenham Arsenal?) but 10 players of one of the teams "conveniently" came down with food poisoning. Stuff conspiracy theories are made of.:D :D
kemana
11-08-2006, 04:07 AM
.... don't take Indra too seriously. He's a good sport, can laugh at himself ( X factor!), .....
Isn't indra a girl?:eek:
taufik-ist
11-08-2006, 05:13 AM
Isn't indra a girl?:eek:
unfortunely, he is not a girl :), but he surely likes the girls :D
cesc fabrigas
11-08-2006, 11:05 AM
What, like at the end of the Premiership last season. Can't remember the exact teams involved (West Ham, Tottenham Arsenal?) but 10 players of one of the teams "conveniently" came down with food poisoning. Stuff conspiracy theories are made of.:D :D arsenal vs tottenham
bananaboy
11-08-2006, 12:23 PM
Isn't indra a girl?:eek:
I hope you didn't think about dating through the internet with Indra...:p:D:D:D:D:D Like the one commercial in Hong Kong says, you never know what the person is about, just by chatting through the internet these days...hahaha...:p
hollywood_t
11-08-2006, 03:43 PM
That's true, but I still wish he could have played :(.
Me too I'd like to see if CJs win in China Open over Taufik will continue to be the trend. That was 3 tough games. I think CJ is a nightmare player for types like Peter Gade & Taufik. People w/ a skills based energy conservation style are going to pushed to the limit.
His game is not flashy and he doesn't attack often & give many counter attack opportunities. I would term him as an aggressive counter attacker as he doesn't mess around the net but takes the shuttle early and drives it deep and wins many points transitioning off of his defence. This works for him as he ups the pace w/ a large margin of error & forces his opponent to use more energy - his defence is rock solid and his footwork is very efficient combined w/ a long reach. His attack is not great but competent when counter attacking. The skills types will always have trouble as there is no time to set up an attack and they usually aren't built to grind out points resulting in errors.
So it's like a Roslin w/ better footwork, longer reach and stronger attack. No surprise that Peter Gade has trouble w/ CJ too. How do you counter a player like that? Pure fitness and strong mental?
I think Taufik has a better chance taking on Bao as his strengths match up better w/ Bao's weaknesses. Vs. Lin Dan I don't think there will be any miracle Taufik's fitness just isn't enough. LD has improved too much thanks to the pressure from LCW over the summer. But you never know.
Derek
phaarix
11-08-2006, 04:12 PM
This is my translation....sorry I could not find the on-line Media Indonesia either
Ahh thanks for that :D.
indra
11-08-2006, 06:59 PM
Isn't indra a girl?:eek:
I am a man during the day and a woman at night :D :D
I am Joking:)
In Indonesia Indra is a unisex name.....but I am 100% a man:)
DinkAlot
11-09-2006, 05:31 AM
I am a man during the day and a woman at night :D :D
I am Joking:)
In Indonesia Indra is a unisex name.....but I am 100% a man:)
100% pro-Taufik, man. :D
Baderz_Jas
11-09-2006, 06:53 AM
I am a man during the day and a woman at night :D :D
I am Joking:)
In Indonesia Indra is a unisex name.....but I am 100% a man:)
there's a Malaysian (men :D ) playing in the Wolrd Junior Championship Men's Doubles called Indra as well ;) :) :D
sickgal
11-09-2006, 07:06 AM
No...he will defeat LD, CJ, BAO in straight sets...:D
Isn't that too soon to make a such prediction???well..but i'm amazed by the cofidence level that u hv for TH..hope TH will not disappoiont his fans!
baihaki_as
11-09-2006, 10:06 PM
or maybe defeated by straight set
phaarix
11-11-2006, 12:48 AM
As long as there are some quality matches to watch I'm not too fussed who beats who. Just hope 1 of my 3 favourites wins :).
chemile
11-12-2006, 06:58 AM
Base on current world ranking, Taufik may only be seeded 5-8 seed and may meet with Lin Dan in quarterfinal.:D
I think TH will meet LCW in quarter final, and probably meet Chen Jin in SF. TH will get opportunity for match revenge with him.
bananaboy
11-12-2006, 05:20 PM
I think TH will meet LCW in quarter final, and probably meet Chen Jin in SF. TH will get opportunity for match revenge with him.
Before you post such comment, please at least read the previous posts... Because if you have done so, you would have realized TH won't be playing Chen Jin in SF since Chen Jin won't be playing in individual event.
Henry Ford once said "Thinking is the hardest work there is"
Today Bananaboy says "Reading owns people for free:p"
KutuItem
11-16-2006, 09:23 PM
Medan, (Analisa) - Tim unggulan PB Surya Naga Jatim gagal melaju ke semifinal Kejurnas Bulutangkis 2006, setelah mengakui keunggulan PB SGS Elektrik Jabar 1-3 di babak perempatfinal, Kamis (16/11) di Gedung Serba Guna Unimed.
Pada semifinal Jumat (17/11) siang ini mulai pukul 14.00 WIB, PB SGS Elektrik ditantang PB Jaya Raya Jakarta setelah mengalahkan PB Sinema Jabar 3-0.
Semifinalis lainnya yakni PB Tangkas Jakarta berhadapan dengan PB Djarum Kudus Jateng setelah mencatat kemenangan atas PB Mutiara Jabar 3-1.
Begitupun, penampilan para pemain PB Surya Naga Jatim patut dipuji terlebih saat andalannya Sony Dwi Kuncoro mampu mengalahkan pemain nomor satu Indonesia Taufik Hidayat dua set langsung 21-13, 21-19.
Namun pada tiga nomor lainnya yakni tunggal putri, ganda putra dan ganda putri, PB Surya Naga Jatim gagal memetik kemenangan atas PB SGS Elektrik Jabar.
Tunggal putri SGS Elektrik Stevani mencatat kemenangan atas Megawati straigh set 11-21, 22-10, 21-17, ganda campuran SGS Elektrik, Flandi Limpele/Lita Nurlita menundukkan Bambang S/Yuliana Tety 21-19, 21-17 dan ganda putri SGS Elektrik, Lita Nurlita/Devi Tika vs Yunita Tety/Lelyana 21-13, 21-19.
PERINGATAN PBSI
Kemenangan Sony Dwi Kuncoro atas Taufik Hidayat membuktikan sudah saatnya PB PBSI memperhatikan pemain muda usia untuk menggantikan posisi Taufik Hidayat yang belakangan ini prestasinya menurun.
Sony Dwi Kuncoro menyatakan gembira mampu mengalahkan Taufik Hidayat di kejurnas kali ini. “Saya pernah juga mengalahkan Taufik pada PON XVI/2004 lalu di Palembang,” ujar pemuda yang baru berusia 22 tahun itu.
Menurutnya, penampilannya pada kejurnas kali ini cukup baik. Apalagi pada partai perempatfinal itu ia mendapat dukungan yang 70 persen penonton yang terus memberikan semangat motivasi kepadanya untuk tampil prima.” Saya melihat penonton di Gedung Unimed terus memberikan dorongan semangat kepada saya. Hal itu ternyata memacu saya untuk tetap bermain bagus,” ujarnya.
Mengenai persiapannya menghadapi Asian Games 2006 di Doha, ia mengaku hanya pemain peringkat ketiga di bawah Taufik Hidayat dan Simon Santoso. “Saya tidak tahu apakah di Asian Games nanti diturunkan di nomor tunggal atau beregu. Saya sadar saya hanya pemain peringkat ketiga,” ujarnya lagi.
Sementara itu, Taufik Hidayat mengakui penampilan Sony Dwi Kuncoro saat itu cukup bagus. “Inilah olahraga. Olahraga adalah permainan kadang menang dan kadang kalah. Kalau menang kita disanjung dan kalau kalah kita dikucilkan,” ujarnya.
Menurutnya, dengan kekalahannya atas Sony di kejurnas Medan ini, sudah saatnya masyarakat Indonesia tidak lagi mengharapkan dirinya sebagai “sang juara”.
Bahkan Taufik sendiri mengakui ia tidak menargetkan untuk mempertahankan prestisenya di Asian Games 2006 Qatar.
From:http://www.bulutangkis.com/mod.php?mod=publisher&op=viewarticle&artid=1054
Translation of the bold text: Taufik admitted he is not aiming to defend his Asian Games Champion Title in Qatar
kemana
11-16-2006, 09:37 PM
Bahkan Taufik sendiri mengakui ia tidak menargetkan untuk mempertahankan prestisenya di Asian Games 2006 Qatar.
From:http://www.bulutangkis.com/mod.php?mod=publisher&op=viewarticle&artid=1054
Translation of the bold text: Taufik admitted he is not aiming to defend his Asian Games Champion Title in Qatar
really?!someone translate the article pls~~
ctjcad
11-16-2006, 09:42 PM
KutuItem, thanks for sharing that article..Now, can anyone help us in translating the article? (ie. indra, DoublesPlayer, babonimut)..thanks in advance..;):cool:
Noticed on their website, there's an article on Iie Sumirat, who is also known as the person who "discovered" Taufik..:rolleyes: ;) :) :cool:
KutuItem
11-16-2006, 09:56 PM
ehm, i'm translating it right now. It'll take a while as my english and indo are rusty.
KutuItem, thanks for sharing that article..Now, can anyone help us in translating the article? (ie. indra, DoublesPlayer, babonimut)..thanks in advance..;):cool:
Noticed on their website, there's an article on Iie Sumirat, who is also known as the person who "discovered" Taufik..:rolleyes: ;) :) :cool:
ctjcad
11-16-2006, 10:03 PM
ehm, i'm translating it right now. It'll take a while as my english and indo are rusty.
..hehe, actually i want to delegate/divide the task to other people(so you don't have to do "double duty").:p:)..but since you're translating it, okay then..thanks for doing that..;) :cool:
KutuItem
11-16-2006, 10:11 PM
I translated only half of the article which I think important. Please don't laugh at my English.
Warning to PBSI
Sony's win from Taufik Hidayat has proved that PBSI needs to start watching youngsters to subtitute Taufik, whose performance has been declining.
Sony was glad that he able to beat Taufik in this National Championship. He said, "I have also beaten him before in Palembang in 2004"
He said that his performance in the championship was fairly good. The support from 70% of audience was helping him played well. He stated, "I see audience in the stadium keep giving me support, it makes me play well".
Asked about his preparedness for Asian Games, he said that he only ranked three behind Taufik and Simon so he wasn't sure if he would play in single event or team event.
Meanwhile, Taufik admitted Sony's performance was good. "This is sport. It is a game that sometimes we win and lose. When we win, we are praised. When we lose we are isolated" said Taufik.
He hoped his lost from Sony will make Indonesians (Fans, added by me) not to always want him to be the Champion. He also added that he is not aiming to defend his Asian Games Champion title in Qatar.
Taufik's fans can cry now ... ha ha ha
ctjcad
11-16-2006, 10:17 PM
I translated only half of the article which I think important. Please don't laugh at my English.
(rest of translation snipped for brevity)..
KutuItem, thanks for doing that, your effort is much appreciated!...;) :cool: ..
BTW, hope the last sentence isn't part of the article, is it??..hehe:p:D;)
cooler
11-16-2006, 11:02 PM
He hoped his lost from Sony will make Indonesians (Fans, added by me) not to always want him to be the Champion. He also added that he is not aiming to defend his Asian Games Champion title in Qatar.
Taufik's fans can cry now ... ha ha ha
WHAT the....? i thot his reasons for losing 06 WC, HKO, KO and CO was that he is concentrating on winning the asian game. 'It come every 4 years so it has more meaning to win at doha' was taufik's escape line. Then again, this doesn't surprise me at all.
madbad
11-17-2006, 12:04 AM
WHAT the....? i thot his reasons for losing 06 WC, HKO, KO and CO was that he is concentrating on winning the asian game. 'It come every 4 years so it has more meaning to win at doha' was taufik's escape line. Then again, this doesn't surprise me at all.
running out of excuses....dum de dah de dah..... :p
cooler
11-17-2006, 01:11 AM
running out of excuses....dum de dah de dah..... :p yep,
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35708 seem like TH admitting defeat earlier and earlier going into a tournament. I still like to see him play or give his best effort.
badMania
11-17-2006, 01:31 AM
..hehe, actually i want to delegate/divide the task to other people(so you don't have to do "double duty").:p:)..but since you're translating it, okay then..thanks for doing that..;) :cool:
Thanks for the fact that u never ask me to translate the long articles :D
CLELY
11-17-2006, 01:54 AM
'TH didn't targeting to defend his prestige in Doha', Is this his signal to retire soon? Hmmm, his character is always unpredictable so we can't strongly believe what he said at Kejurnas occasion which contrary with his previous statement. Really confusing...
ctjcad
11-17-2006, 03:00 AM
WHAT the....? i thot his reasons for losing 06 WC, HKO, KO and CO was that he is concentrating on winning the asian game. 'It come every 4 years so it has more meaning to win at doha' was taufik's escape line. Then again, this doesn't surprise me at all.
'TH didn't targeting to defend his prestige in Doha', Is this his signal to retire soon? Hmmm, his character is always unpredictable so we can't strongly believe what he said at Kejurnas occasion which contrary with his previous statement. Really confusing...
...hehe, glad you guys have come into some realization that his words can't never be taken "seriously" 100%...I learned that "the uneasy way" after last yr's WC, after he said "His next goal after the 2005 WC is the 2006 AE" and look at what happened afterwards..But then again, yah, we'll never know what "mood" will Taufik have in the next 2 weeks or so..hehe:rolleyes::( :p :D ;)
ctjcad
11-17-2006, 03:04 AM
Thanks for the fact that u never ask me to translate the long articles :D
..hehehe, well, sure, you(or anyone else) can jump right in also, next time, in helping out w/the translation..Sorry, I was just noting, off the top of my head, the people who've attempted translating "longer" articles..hehe:rolleyes: :p :D ;)
phaarix
11-17-2006, 03:24 PM
I've grown used to Taufik not "aiming" to win tournaments now >_>. I don't really mind that much if he loses, I just want to see him play his best. If he does win on the other hand... what will he say considering he wasn't "aiming" to :confused:?
madbad
11-17-2006, 04:02 PM
I'm quite torn over how Taufik will fare. I was a huge fan until the HKO pull out incident. That really irked me. Now I just feel sorry for him. Hard to see such a talent struggling to perform to his (and our) accustomed level. If he does well, I'll be happy for him, just as long as his apologists don't spoil it for everyone else. If he doesn't, could this really spell the end for Taufik? Really, he's got not much else to play for and it would take total rededication to elevate himself back to those heady levels.
ctjcad
11-17-2006, 04:10 PM
Really, he's got not much else to play for and it would take total rededication to elevate himself back to those heady levels.
..i hope not much "rededication", with only the AE as his other(only) missing "prestigious" title left.:rolleyes: :p ..Just 1 more, I mean it's not like he hasn't gotten the WC, Olympics or AG title(s) yet..:p:D ;)
pjswift
11-17-2006, 10:35 PM
..i hope not much "rededication", with only the AE as his other(only) missing "prestigious" title left.:rolleyes: :p ..Just 1 more, I mean it's not like he hasn't gotten the WC, Olympics or AG title(s) yet..:p:D ;)
AE is no big deal anymore. It used to be prestigious but recent times has seen some smelly umpiring and service judging esp. when matches are between Asian and European players. That s how prestige gets eroded
taufik-ist
11-17-2006, 10:57 PM
AE is no big deal anymore. It used to be prestigious but recent times has seen some smelly umpiring and service judging esp. when matches are between Asian and European players. That s how prestige gets eroded
ya, agree with u... becos the host always tries to get the gold as many as possible by 'any means'
bic33
11-18-2006, 12:51 AM
I'm quite torn over how Taufik will fare. I was a huge fan until the HKO pull out incident. That really irked me. Now I just feel sorry for him. Hard to see such a talent struggling to perform to his (and our) accustomed level. If he does well, I'll be happy for him, just as long as his apologists don't spoil it for everyone else. If he doesn't, could this really spell the end for Taufik? Really, he's got not much else to play for and it would take total rededication to elevate himself back to those heady levels.
it's really hard to see such talent wasted... if only he'll give me his talent before he retire.lol he's only 25 and i think, given the right physical condition, he'll be able to duplicate his achievements... i'm doubting that he's making excuses... we watched JO, my coach told me that taufik didn't give up the match.. he told me that taufik was feeling something that he didn't want to use as alibi for the defeat... after hearing that TH doesn't aim to defend his AG title, i thought that maybe taufik knew that he wouldn't be in his top form (physically) for the upcoming AG... it's really weird he said that "indonesians shouldn't expect only him to win every tournament because there are other INA players as well" it gives me a hint that may be he's going to retire soon..:crying: i hope not, there are still many tournaments to win...:D
ctjcad
11-18-2006, 01:12 AM
AE is no big deal anymore. It used to be prestigious but recent times has seen some smelly umpiring and service judging esp. when matches are between Asian and European players. That s how prestige gets eroded
ya, agree with u... becos the host always tries to get the gold as many as possible by 'any means
..if that's the case, where do we draw the line, when did it begin/what yr, that AE is no longer as prestigious as the old AEs?? does that mean this yr's AE is actually not as prestigious as the previous ones?? How about last yr's?? Or in that case, how about the upcoming AE in future yrs?? And if it's not as prestigious as before, why did Taufik still mentioned about him pursuing the AE after the WC last yr??..Was his talk "full of hot air"??..:rolleyes: :confused::( :p
madbad
11-18-2006, 02:58 AM
AE is no big deal anymore. It used to be prestigious but recent times has seen some smelly umpiring and service judging esp. when matches are between Asian and European players. That s how prestige gets eroded
C'mon let's get real here. Bias umpiring and line judging are rife in the Asian tournaments too, blatantly in some cases. So the Euros get somewhat of a raw deal when they play there. Do they pull out because of that? Of course not.
The point is that there'll always be some sway in umpiring and line judging towards Asians in Asia and Euros in Europe. That hasn't stopped LD from winning this year's AE. A player should be big enough to overcome these obstacles if he is to be crowned champion. AE is still a BIG tournament, a major if you will. If Taufik, as you put, considers it not a big deal anymore because of said reason, I think it's just adding another excuse to his already growing list. Sad really, because it's others that are making them for him :)
pjswift
11-18-2006, 09:01 AM
C'mon let's get real here. Bias umpiring and line judging are rife in the Asian tournaments too, blatantly in some cases. So the Euros get somewhat of a raw deal when they play there. Do they pull out because of that? Of course not.
The point is that there'll always be some sway in umpiring and line judging towards Asians in Asia and Euros in Europe. That hasn't stopped LD from winning this year's AE. A player should be big enough to overcome these obstacles if he is to be crowned champion. AE is still a BIG tournament, a major if you will. If Taufik, as you put, considers it not a big deal anymore because of said reason, I think it's just adding another excuse to his already growing list. Sad really, because it's others that are making them for him :)
I'm comparing AE now vs the old days, not vs other tournaments. AE used to be the Gold standard, isn't it? That means in the old days, the umpiring, service and line judging were of impeccable standard; that's a key reason why it's respected. Or has it always been selectively shoddy with some matches all along? Please enlighten cos I've only come into badminton about 5 years back so I have no sentiments for AE like old timers. I'm looking at AE objectively and trying to understand why ppl rave about it in spite of surprisingly questionable umpiring and service judging standards.
Baderz_Jas
11-18-2006, 09:50 AM
AE is no big deal anymore. It used to be prestigious but recent times has seen some smelly umpiring and service judging esp. when matches are between Asian and European players. That s how prestige gets eroded
I agree too! :D not fair! :) :crying:
Chu Liuxiang
11-18-2006, 12:08 PM
Taufik Hidayat to meet Nguyen Hoang Hai in the first round and to meet Korean Park Sung Hwan in the second round.
Taufik to meet Bao Chun Lai or Ronald Susilo in the last eight.
Lee Chong Wei will be ready in the semifinal to meet the winner between Taufik or Bao.
cooler
11-18-2006, 03:23 PM
I'm comparing AE now vs the old days, not vs other tournaments. AE used to be the Gold standard, isn't it? That means in the old days, the umpiring, service and line judging were of impeccable standard; that's a key reason why it's respected. Or has it always been selectively shoddy with some matches all along? Please enlighten cos I've only come into badminton about 5 years back so I have no sentiments for AE like old timers. I'm looking at AE objectively and trying to understand why ppl rave about it in spite of surprisingly questionable umpiring and service judging standards.
load of crap talk from my book, just more excuses for taufik from die hard TH fans. Are u saying AE winners of say.. from the past 5 years were undeserving? Of course there are no perfect umpiring and line judging in any badminton tournaments but AE is no worst than others. Maybe i know why TH hasn't win in AE, it's because so far none of the AE draws had worked in his favor. Let me remind u that TH won athen gold in 2004 without facing one chinese player. Hardest match was against peter gade. Boonsak and shon are not even in the top five back then nor presently.
TrueBlue
11-18-2006, 03:39 PM
...one could think you don't like taufik.
He was also world champion beating lin dan of china in the final.
cooler
11-18-2006, 03:47 PM
...one could think you don't like taufik.
He was also world champion beating lin dan of china in the final.
if u read my previous post somewhere in bf, i have documented evidence to explain LD lost to TH in 05 WC. I saw that match live streaming and had first count observation from my frens who was at anahiem too. It wasnt that TH won with skill but rather LD lost because of nervousness, just like at athen olympic. TH presence on court was enough to defeat his opponents after his olympic gold status. The 06 HKO & JO prove that LD overcame his nervousness in big tournaments, and overcame his 'ghost like' fear of TH. The table had turned, it is now TH who is scare and trying to avoid facing LD. For me, TH off court deception is wearing off. To beat TH, just like giving a public speech, u have to see your counterparts wearing nothing but underwear and dont let unjustified emotional fear to defeat u before u even begin:p
jamesd20
11-18-2006, 04:13 PM
This thread is going severely off topic, but IMO AE is Less Biased than Other Major tournaments, since the umpires are (very broadly) the same as in other tournaments, but the Linesmen/Women have less bias as they do not have many of there own country men/women to support/help during the later stages. JO, KO, CO, MO & DO will are all likely to have their own COuntry folk in the Quarter final at least. English players are Forunate to reach this stage (even in Doubles).
cooler
11-18-2006, 04:39 PM
This thread is going severely off topic, but IMO AE is Less Biased than Other Major tournaments, since the umpires are (very broadly) the same as in other tournaments, but the Linesmen/Women have less bias as they do not have many of there own country men/women to support/help during the later stages. JO, KO, CO, MO & DO will are all likely to have their own COuntry folk in the Quarter final at least. English players are Forunate to reach this stage (even in Doubles).
thanks for the reminder jamesd20.
trueblue, i dun dislike TH, i just want to separate TH's myth from facts:) I could be totally wrong about TH but he has to win at doha and next year AE to convince me:D:p
ctjcad
11-18-2006, 04:49 PM
I saw that match live streaming and had first count observation from my frens who was at anahiem too. It wasnt that TH won with skill but rather LD lost because of nervousness, just like at athen olympic.
..hehe, believe it or not, and watched it live with some other BC members..;) :D :cool: ...Actually, IMHO, LD lost to TH in last yr's WC was more because he ran out of energy(after that energy-sapper in the SF). Sure the "nervousness" factor was there, but as i was watching it live, he made an attempt in the 2nd set, but just couldn't get that 2nd wind. His facial and body demeanors & energy just weren't there..As for the 2004 Athens Olympics, yah, i would tend to agree, LD probably was "shocked" from simply having a youthful exuberance(he was what, 19 or 20 yrs old @ the time, just like Taufik was 4 yrs earlier)..;)
bic33
11-18-2006, 09:20 PM
if u read my previous post somewhere in bf, i have documented evidence to explain LD lost to TH in 05 WC. I saw that match live streaming and had first count observation from my frens who was at anahiem too. It wasnt that TH won with skill but rather LD lost because of nervousness, just like at athen olympic. TH presence on court was enough to defeat his opponents after his olympic gold status. The 06 HKO & JO prove that LD overcame his nervousness in big tournaments, and overcame his 'ghost like' fear of TH. The table had turned, it is now TH who is scare and trying to avoid facing LD. For me, TH off court deception is wearing off. To beat TH, just like giving a public speech, u have to see your counterparts wearing nothing but underwear and dont let unjustified emotional fear to defeat u before u even begin:p
cooler, it is part of the game! if you excused LD's lost because of exhaustion or nervousness, surely, TH fans will be making the same excuse as you did...injuries, not 100% condition, etc... as a player, you can't really blame exhaustio n or being not in condition.. because as a player, your job is to always be in good condition... it's part of how good a player is.. :D LD's loss to TH in 2005 was because he got intimidated by TH then.. again, it's nobody but LD's fault...
shall we now move on?? it's already done, and LD's now the #1 player...
bic33
11-18-2006, 09:31 PM
peace cooler! :D no harm intended..:)
cooler
11-18-2006, 10:53 PM
peace cooler! :D no harm intended..:)no problem.
Wonder if taufik loss of shine is affecting pbsi politics. It seem pbsi is having a shakeout. Joko bailed, now hartono. Well, good luck to TH,i hope he has a game plan instead of just showing up.
ctjcad
11-18-2006, 11:02 PM
cooler, it is part of the game! if you excused LD's lost because of exhaustion or nervousness, surely, TH fans will be making the same excuse as you did...injuries, not 100% condition, etc... as a player, you can't really blame exhaustio n or being not in condition.. because as a player, your job is to always be in good condition... it's part of how good a player is.. :D LD's loss to TH in 2005 was because he got intimidated by TH then.. again, it's nobody but LD's fault...
shall we now move on?? it's already done, and LD's now the #1 player...
..as far as i know:
1. i don't think either one of them are "intimidated" with each other..;)
2. both failures and successes (LD in '05 and TH in '06) were due most likely for either one of them lacking of being fit/in-shape/in-form and vice versa..And yes, both camps(and their die-hard fans) can give "excuse(s)" for their players, but if there's anyone to blame for it, the players can look no further than themselves.;) ..The threads and posts in both WCs are already good support for what happened and they're readily available to peruse in this BC/BF, if anyone wishes to find out..;) :cool: :)
pjswift
11-19-2006, 01:17 AM
if u read my previous post somewhere in bf, i have documented evidence to explain LD lost to TH in 05 WC. I saw that match live streaming and had first count observation from my frens who was at anahiem too. It wasnt that TH won with skill but rather LD lost because of nervousness, just like at athen olympic. TH presence on court was enough to defeat his opponents after his olympic gold status. The 06 HKO & JO prove that LD overcame his nervousness in big tournaments, and overcame his 'ghost like' fear of TH. The table had turned, it is now TH who is scare and trying to avoid facing LD. For me, TH off court deception is wearing off. To beat TH, just like giving a public speech, u have to see your counterparts wearing nothing but underwear and dont let unjustified emotional fear to defeat u before u even begin:p
I enjoy watching TH play but I wouldn't call myself a TH fan.There are some things I like about him; his guts against incompetent umpires at his own expense and his on court attitude of respect for his opponent, never rushing them if they are slow or need time to recover, any amount of shuttle change or towel breaks etc..Basically he lets his opponent have the freedom to play at their pace and in any way that best suits them. He has none of the insecurities exhibited by the LD generation of Team CHN.
I agree with you that LD suffered from TH phobia when he lost meekly to TH in WC and SO but that 's because LD perceived TH's skills to be superior in th e first place and hence lost confidence. What I saw in the SO match was TH looking majestic and LD like a little boy, right at the start. What I don't understand is why would LD, holder of many titles(as ppl always say to boast of his greatness) and having one OC nerve wrecking experience to get over with, have this paralysing fear ,even in the presence of good LD crowd support. My guess is LD's many titles are never really his; they are Team CHN's, that's why when it came to the crunch, he crumbled.
As for AE, my curiosity is why do some posts imply that AE is above the rest of the IBF Opens. I never said an AE title is worth nothing; I just see it as an Open title, not extraordinary. There's no need to perceive like sheep here. But from what I gather, it must have a great history and tradition. Since I have not been part of that history, I'm just asking for verification from old timers whether impeccable umpiring and service judging has been one of its gold standards. ( which I found being compromised in recent editions for some key matches)
cooler
11-19-2006, 01:28 AM
i have much to say but i fear i might go off topic and risk closing of this thread.
bic33
11-19-2006, 02:17 AM
no problem.
Wonder if taufik loss of shine is affecting pbsi politics. It seem pbsi is having a shakeout. Joko bailed, now hartono. Well, good luck to TH,i hope he has a game plan instead of just showing up.
don't worry... he has plans.... of just showing up...:p:p:p
cooler
11-19-2006, 03:53 AM
don't worry... he has plans.... of just showing up...:p:p:p
does those plans involve shopping and sight seeing at doha:confused: :p :cool:
me-ow
11-23-2006, 06:32 AM
Asian Games 2006, will be the last asian games for Taufik Hidayat...
on the gathering of Indonesian team, taufik said to the media
that this is the last time he will be partisipate in Asian games
but he still play for Thomas-Umer 2008....
Bye Taufik...
Baderz_Jas
11-23-2006, 07:00 AM
really :) how old is he now? 26? :confused: thanks for the news btw :D :p
lorus_blue
11-23-2006, 07:19 AM
did he gave any reason why?
ctjcad
11-23-2006, 02:38 PM
really :) how old is he now? 26? :confused: thanks for the news btw :D :p
...for his b-day, you can go here :
http://www.taufik-hidayat.com/id_profil.htm
Btw, for those TH fans, i think that's a new TH website..:p ;)
Darth Andrianus
11-23-2006, 04:13 PM
If it is true that TH is retiring after Beijing 2008, automatically this will be his last Asian Games. I wonder why he wants to quit so soon? Most importantly, what is he going to do after his career is over? Hmmm...
indra
11-23-2006, 10:10 PM
I found an article in Bola Nov 24, 2006...on Taufik
This is just the summary:
" My target in AG Doha remains unchanged. GOLD" said Taufik Hidayat at Cipayung, Tuesday 21 Nov 2006.
He considers that AG is more prestigious than WC as AG is held every 4 years. Wiining gold in AG is his main agenda in year 2006.
:D :D :D :D
ctjcad
11-23-2006, 10:15 PM
I found an article in Bola Nov 24, 2006...on Taufik
This is just the summary:
" My target in AG Doha remains unchanged. GOLD" said Taufik Hidayat at Cipayung, Tuesday 21 Nov 2006.
He considers that AG is more prestigious than WC as AG is held every 4 years. Wiining gold in AG is his main agenda in year 2006.
:D :D :D :D
....what else is new, Taufik is "farting" again to the media, is he??...:rolleyes: :p ;) :D :)
cooler
11-23-2006, 10:20 PM
ya, i was gonna respond to this thread but decided, why bother. Beside, why start a new thread, it's same topic as 'taufik in doha' thread. A new thread for every TH's fart? :p
hahahalol
11-23-2006, 10:38 PM
whats this AG tournament?...whats does AG satnds for??
edit: nvm!!
CLELY
11-23-2006, 11:14 PM
I found an article in Bola Nov 24, 2006...on Taufik
This is just the summary:
" My target in AG Doha remains unchanged. GOLD" said Taufik Hidayat at Cipayung, Tuesday 21 Nov 2006.
He considers that AG is more prestigious than WC as AG is held every 4 years. Wiining gold in AG is his main agenda in year 2006.
But PBSI didn't target him to grab GOLD, is it a soft-strategy or what? Next 4 years, he almost impossible to compete in Guangzhou. So, Doha AG is the last multi-sport event for TH to create glorious because some info said doubtedly he want to fight in Beijing OG/08.
Meanwhile, CHN as world bdm superpower set the bombastic target for DOHA AG. Quoted from KOMPAS 24/11/06 -- LYB said self-confidence of CHN shuttlers give him optimistic feeling to make clean sweep 7 Golds in Doha. We have one goal, get more golds compare with dissapointed results 4 years ago.--
With TH's himself determine to claim Individual Gold, can he bury LYB's obsession to book perfect-mark (7 Golds) in Qatari capital?? Ooo sounds will be hot duel again between TH and LD!
indra
11-23-2006, 11:57 PM
But PBSI didn't target him to grab GOLD, is it a soft-strategy or what? Next 4 years, he almost impossible to compete in Guangzhou. So, Doha AG is the last multi-sport event for TH to create glorious because some info said doubtedly he want to fight in Beijing OG/08.
Meanwhile, CHN as world bdm superpower set the bombastic target for DOHA AG. Quoted from KOMPAS 24/11/06 -- LYB said self-confidence of CHN shuttlers give him optimistic feeling to make clean sweep 7 Golds in Doha. We have one goal, get more golds compare with dissapointed results 4 years ago.--
With TH's himself determine to claim Individual Gold, can he bury LYB's obsession to book perfect-mark (7 Golds) in Qatari capital?? Ooo sounds will be hot duel again between TH and LD!
Taufik and Ina team will "bury" LYB's dream:D
OneToughBirdie
11-24-2006, 12:25 AM
ya, i was gonna respond to this thread but decided, why bother. Beside, why start a new thread, it's same topic as 'taufik in doha' thread. A new thread for every TH's fart? :p
TH add color and excitement to badminton, along with LCW and PG provide challenge to Team China. With no potential stars in the horizon coming up from Indonesia, Korea, Malaysia and Denmark, 4 yrs from now, MS would be like WS, boring and all China finals in most events, I bet dollar to donut CJ will win most opens and be king of badminton. Therefore, Cooler, reading your previous thread, you do not have to bash TH too much and kiss LD and the rest of Team China too much, when TH and LCW retire, we will miss them. Match fixing by LYB to cash in his bonus just spoil the game. The game is exciting with LCW, TH and PG battling Team China, and that is what fans in us would like to watch. The day will come when badminton tournaments would no longer be fun. Unless Tommy Sugiarto (so far he is thefuture from Indonesia unless I miss out somebody) can be somebody or some miracle players come along from elsewhere, China will dominate just like WS. China already has CJ and more coming up to pick from 1.3 billion people, and who is there from the rest of the world to take on CJ? I still say I am lucky to see Ms in WC05, WC06 is disappointing to a fan, WC07 I hope is better as I plan to attend in my home country.
eskey
11-24-2006, 01:26 AM
....what else is new, Taufik is "farting" again to the media, is he??...:rolleyes: :p ;) :D :)
That is indeed Taufik. He makes people confused with what he said....don't know which one to believe, what he said in Bola is quite contracdited with what he said after athletes meeting with President.
below are the some quotes from the article (indopos and www.bulutangkis.com (http://www.bulutangkis.com)). Basically the President said to him "don't forget to bring back Gold", but after that meeting, Taufik said to media that he can't promise, "I want Gold but I don't set target"
SBY menumpukan harapan medali emas kepada pebulutangkis Taufik Hidayat. Harapan itu disampaikan saat para atlet bersalaman dengan SBY dan pejabat lainnya. Tiba giliran Taufik bersalaman, SBY langsung menyapa. Jangan lupa bawa emas, ya, kata SBY.
Taufik sendiri usai acara mengatakan tidak berani berjanji. Kalau saya sih ingin emas. Tapi, saya tidak berani pasang target. Kalau saya bilang emas nanti nggak tahunya pulang tidak bawa apa-apa, kata menantu Agum Gumelar itu..
Taufik hanya berani memastikan kalau persiapannya sudah cukup baik. Jauh lebih baik dari persiapan menjelang Invitasi Piala Dunia 2006 di Tiongkok sebulan lalu. Doakan saja. Teman-teman yang lain juga berusaha, katanya.
DinkAlot
11-24-2006, 02:04 AM
....what else is new, Taufik is "farting" again to the media, is he??...:rolleyes: :p ;) :D :)
:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
By going to Doha early to prepare himself for "Gold" Medal, he is indeed serious. A recent chat with him over the phone , he wanted GOLD as like what he say before to him AG is more precious than WC Gold.
IMO Taufik love the challenge and the limelight. I did wish him all the best.. but of course i would also want LCW to have a good result there also. :)
cooler
11-24-2006, 02:37 AM
TH add color and excitement to badminton, along with LCW and PG provide challenge to Team China. With no potential stars in the horizon coming up from Indonesia, Korea, Malaysia and Denmark, 4 yrs from now, MS would be like WS, boring and all China finals in most events, I bet dollar to donut CJ will win most opens and be king of badminton. Therefore, Cooler, reading your previous thread, you do not have to bash TH too much and kiss LD and the rest of Team China too much, when TH and LCW retire, we will miss them. Match fixing by LYB to cash in his bonus just spoil the game. The game is exciting with LCW, TH and PG battling Team China, and that is what fans in us would like to watch. The day will come when badminton tournaments would no longer be fun. Unless Tommy Sugiarto (so far he is thefuture from Indonesia unless I miss out somebody) can be somebody or some miracle players come along from elsewhere, China will dominate just like WS. China already has CJ and more coming up to pick from 1.3 billion people, and who is there from the rest of the world to take on CJ? I still say I am lucky to see Ms in WC05, WC06 is disappointing to a fan, WC07 I hope is better as I plan to attend in my home country.yes, i do agree that taufik always wear the most colorful yonex shirts LOL
bic33
11-24-2006, 03:28 AM
damn.. imagine badminton in the 21st century without taufik.. i mean, there'll be no spice at all! no controversy, no excitement, backhand smashes and of course, walk-outs! lol kidding
if time could be turned back, the future would have been the brightest for the 19-year-old kid back then....
Baderz_Jas
11-24-2006, 06:07 AM
...for his b-day, you can go here :
http://www.taufik-hidayat.com/id_profil.htm
Btw, for those TH fans, i think that's a new TH website..:p ;)
thanks, that means he's only 25 :eek: :D
Simp84
11-24-2006, 06:39 AM
By going to Doha early to prepare himself for "Gold" Medal, he is indeed serious. A recent chat with him over the phone , he wanted GOLD as like what he say before to him AG is more precious than WC Gold.
IMO Taufik love the challenge and the limelight. I did wish him all the best.. but of course i would also want LCW to have a good result there also. :)
nice.. lets hope he can grab gold:)
Simp84
11-24-2006, 06:39 AM
TH add color and excitement to badminton, along with LCW and PG provide challenge to Team China. With no potential stars in the horizon coming up from Indonesia, Korea, Malaysia and Denmark, 4 yrs from now, MS would be like WS, boring and all China finals in most events, I bet dollar to donut CJ will win most opens and be king of badminton. Therefore, Cooler, reading your previous thread, you do not have to bash TH too much and kiss LD and the rest of Team China too much, when TH and LCW retire, we will miss them. Match fixing by LYB to cash in his bonus just spoil the game. The game is exciting with LCW, TH and PG battling Team China, and that is what fans in us would like to watch. The day will come when badminton tournaments would no longer be fun. Unless Tommy Sugiarto (so far he is thefuture from Indonesia unless I miss out somebody) can be somebody or some miracle players come along from elsewhere, China will dominate just like WS. China already has CJ and more coming up to pick from 1.3 billion people, and who is there from the rest of the world to take on CJ? I still say I am lucky to see Ms in WC05, WC06 is disappointing to a fan, WC07 I hope is better as I plan to attend in my home country. well said... and I agree!
whatsoever
11-24-2006, 07:02 AM
damn.. imagine badminton in the 21st century without taufik.. i mean, there'll be no spice at all! no controversy, no excitement, backhand smashes and of course, walk-outs! lol kidding
if time could be turned back, the future would have been the brightest for the 19-year-old kid back then....
Agreeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taufik makes more gossips than Dian Sastrowardoyo (Indonesia's most popular actress playing in "Ada Apa Dengan Cinta") does.:) :)
DinkAlot
11-24-2006, 07:08 AM
Taufik's target is gold? Mine too, at the end of the rainbow. :p
whatsoever
11-24-2006, 07:13 AM
seems like everybody already misses him. He he. wait until taufik shows his 'bad' attitude again (or bad performance), by that time evrybody will start cursing him again. So funny. That's why we 'love' Taufik, rite?
DinkAlot
11-24-2006, 07:21 AM
seems like everybody already misses him.
I don't miss his attitude at all. But I do miss his style of play.
tommy_bun
11-24-2006, 07:26 AM
what is he going to do after his career is over? Hmmm...[/quote]
he doesnt have to do anything,his father in law is very rich.
MARRY A RICH GIRL
whatsoever
11-24-2006, 07:32 AM
I don't miss his attitude at all. But I do miss his style of play.
Yeah rite. Wait until ten years from now.:D
DinkAlot
11-24-2006, 07:35 AM
Yeah rite. Wait until ten years from now.:D
Don't hold your breath, by then Jason (Baderz_Jas) will be # 1. :D :D :D
Baderz_Jas
11-24-2006, 09:52 AM
I don't miss his attitude at all. But I do miss his style of play.
same! lol :D hehe :D
Baderz_Jas
11-24-2006, 09:53 AM
Don't hold your breath, by then Jason (Baderz_Jas) will be # 1. :D :D :D
aaa! :D I really hope so AAAA!!!! World No.1 aaaa :crying: :D I'll make it :D hehe :D
Baderz_Jas
11-24-2006, 09:57 AM
Taufik's target is gold? Mine too, at the end of the rainbow. :p
lol :D hehe :D if Taufik did say that, I hope this time he will not give up :mad: :D lol :D
DoublesPlayer
11-24-2006, 10:26 AM
Fisik Ganda Putra Bulutangkis Belum Memuaskan
Laporan Wartawan Kompas Adi Prinantyo
JAKARTA, KOMPAS - Meski tinggal sepekan lagi bertolak ke Doha, Qatar, untuk tampil di Asian Games 2006, namun kondisi fisik pemain ganda putra bulutangkis kita, belum memuaskan. Bahkan, ada kemungkinan pemain tunggal putra-putri, ganda putri dan ganda campuran, keadaan fisiknya juga kurang bagus.
Hal ini dijelaskan Pelatih fisik tim bulutangkis Indonesia, Tahir Djide, di sela-sela latihan di Pusat Bulutangkis Indonesia, Cipayung, Jakarta Timur, Selasa (21/11) sore. "Saya menilai, buruknya kondisi fisik terkait penyelengaraan Kejurnas Bulutangkis di Medan, belum lama ini. Tapi sudahlah, yang penting sekarang bagaimana mengatasinya," kata Tahir.
Karena keterbatasan waktu, Guru Besar FPOK Universitas Pendidikan Indonesia (UPI) Bandung itu, akhirnya hanya memberi porsi latihan fisik yang bisa menunjang kemampuan teknik, khususnya dalam penguatan otot tungkai.
Shyen
11-24-2006, 10:29 AM
Last Asian Games.....:( :crying: Goodbye Taufik!!
:) Ina team need to search for new Taufik by now!
Shyen
11-24-2006, 10:43 AM
Taufik for gold..........good for him!!
but still prefer LD vs LCW in final!!!
DoublesPlayer
11-24-2006, 10:46 AM
Badminton Men’s Doubles Physical Condition Unsatisfying
Kompas Journalist Reporter Adi Prinantyo
JAKARTA, KOMPAS – Even in a week prior to departure to Doha, Qatar, to participate in the 2006 Asian Games, the physical condition of our badminton men’s doubles, unsatisfying. And, there is a possibility that the men’s and women’s singles, women’s doubles and mixed doubles, their physical form is also bad.
This is stated by the Indonesian team physical coach, Tahir Djide, in the middle of the practice at Indonesian Badminton Training Center, Cipayung, East Jakarta, on Tuesday afternoon (11/21).
“I think, the bad physical condition is caused by their participation in the National Badminton Championship in Medan, recently. Nevertheless, the most important thing now is how to find the workaround,” said Tahir.
Due to the limited time, the Professor FPOK Universitas Pendidikan Indonesia (UPI) Bandung, only facilitates the physical training that helps the technical skills, especially in strengthening the legs muscles.
ctjcad
11-24-2006, 12:12 PM
But PBSI didn't target him to grab GOLD, is it a soft-strategy or what? Next 4 years, he almost impossible to compete in Guangzhou. So, Doha AG is the last multi-sport event for TH to create glorious because some info said doubtedly he want to fight in Beijing OG/08.
Meanwhile, CHN as world bdm superpower set the bombastic target for DOHA AG. Quoted from KOMPAS 24/11/06 -- LYB said self-confidence of CHN shuttlers give him optimistic feeling to make clean sweep 7 Golds in Doha. We have one goal, get more golds compare with dissapointed results 4 years ago.--
With TH's himself determine to claim Individual Gold, can he bury LYB's obsession to book perfect-mark (7 Golds) in Qatari capital?? Ooo sounds will be hot duel again between TH and LD!
...will they be lucky to get "Lucky no. 7"??...Personally, it is extremely very2 difficult to win, let alone, sweep all 7 events(or any events in any reg. tournaments for that matter)..:p ;) .
I myself think they will not win 'em all(looking realistically, their "weak events" are MD and XD), but with how things have been going this past yr for the CHN team, who knows, maybe that dream will come true..:rolleyes: :p :) ;)
Syaoran_Style
11-24-2006, 12:31 PM
Taufik is targeting GOLD ?? really ?!
ohh i didn't know it ! LOL
All players target GOLD ... not only taufik ! =)
jamesd20
11-24-2006, 12:51 PM
All players target GOLD ... not only taufik ! =)
Exactly. I am Targetting it now myself!!:D
I think Taufik has more chance though:)
sickgal
11-24-2006, 02:17 PM
the INA should not have wait for TH to bid farewell only starts searching for young n talented ppl to replace TH though...
DinkAlot
11-24-2006, 09:03 PM
aaa! :D I really hope so AAAA!!!! World No.1 aaaa :crying: :D I'll make it :D hehe :D
Don't forget to give me your AT7000 and shirt (XXXL please) when you win. I'll be saying "Jason jia you!" "Jason jia you!" "Jason jia you!"
Gillian Clark will be saying "Oh my, what's that panda doing cheering for Jason?" :p
kemana
11-24-2006, 10:26 PM
I found an article in Bola Nov 24, 2006...on Taufik
This is just the summary:
" My target in AG Doha remains unchanged. GOLD" said Taufik Hidayat at Cipayung, Tuesday 21 Nov 2006.
He considers that AG is more prestigious than WC as AG is held every 4 years. Wiining gold in AG is his main agenda in year 2006.
:D :D :D :D
i am very happy aoubt this news:)
taufik-ist
11-25-2006, 04:31 AM
[QUOTE=kemana]i am very happy aoubt this news:)[/QUOTE
yes... taufik is back on the track... winning the gold medal :)
sickgal
11-25-2006, 05:45 AM
too soon to say perhaps... every player sure dreams of gold medal...what else..
Baderz_Jas
11-25-2006, 07:50 AM
Don't forget to give me your AT7000 and shirt (XXXL please) when you win. I'll be saying "Jason jia you!" "Jason jia you!" "Jason jia you!"
Gillian Clark will be saying "Oh my, what's that panda doing cheering for Jason?" :p
haha :D I don't think I'll be a size XXXL :D I just too small! :D hehe :D Gilian Clark will be saying 'Oh my, now panda likes badminton too?! :D heehe :D lol :D
sorry for being off-topic :D lala :p
DinkAlot
11-25-2006, 07:57 AM
haha :D I don't think I'll be a size XXXL :D I just too small! :D hehe :D Gilian Clark will be saying 'Oh my, now panda likes badminton too?! :D heehe :D lol :D
sorry for being off-topic :D lala :p
OK, then be sure to make a shirt for me that XXXL. :D
Baderz_Jas
11-25-2006, 07:59 AM
OK, then be sure to make a shirt for me that XXXL. :D
no problem! hehe :D lol :D
bananaboy
11-25-2006, 11:14 AM
too soon to say perhaps... every player sure dreams of gold medal...what else..
Mostly every player dreams for a gold metal... except maybe Hafiz whom mentioned that he would be satisfied for a bronze.....:eek::p
Taufik needs to learn that action speaks louder than words... last time, his big speech about world championship final against Lin Dan, just completely back-fired on him when he lost in the rounds of 16... :rolleyes: well maybe since the Asian Games has less top players, he should get to the semi and meet either LCW or Bao, then we get to hear the famous quote after he loses... "insert name, he was playing very well... people in Indo should not expect me to win every tournament for the country.":rolleyes:
taufik-ist
11-25-2006, 09:34 PM
Mostly every player dreams for a gold metal... except maybe Hafiz whom mentioned that he would be satisfied for a bronze.....:eek::p
Taufik needs to learn that action speaks louder than words... last time, his big speech about world championship final against Lin Dan, just completely back-fired on him when he lost in the rounds of 16... :rolleyes: well maybe since the Asian Games has less top players, he should get to the semi and meet either LCW or Bao, then we get to hear the famous quote after he loses... "insert name, he was playing very well... people in Indo should not expect me to win every tournament for the country.":rolleyes:
hey man,
most top players in the world come from asia :p :D , and most of them are competiting in ASIAN GAMES DOHA
for the 'enlightenment' :)
top players who are competiting in ASIAN GAMES:
Ms:
Lindan, Bao, Chen JIn, Taufik H, Lcw, Hafidz, LHI, Boonsak
just missing 2 or 1 non asian top players : Peter Gade or KJ
MD:
Cai/fu, Markis/hendra,alven/luluk,korea MD, Mas Md
just missing 1or 2 non asia top players : erricsen/lungrad or blair/nathan
XD:
Nova/natsir,zzw/xzb, korea XD, Thai XD, Mas XD
just missing 2 non asian top players: nathan/gail or denmark XD
WS:
all china top players :), WMC
just missing 2 or 3 (not exactly) non asian top players :) : yao jie, pio yan, xiu wen
WD:
all china top players, mas pair
just missing 1 or 2 non asian top players: denmark or england pairs
2cents
11-25-2006, 09:54 PM
hey man,
most top players in the world come from asia :p :D , and most of them are competiting in ASIAN GAMES DOHA
for the 'enlightenment' :)
top players who are competiting in ASIAN GAMES:
Ms:
Lindan, Bao, Chen JIn, Taufik H, Lcw, Hafidz, LHI, Boonsak
just missing 2 or 1 non asian top players : Peter Gade or KJ
Chen Jin will not compete in the individual events. So not only PG or KJ just missed. 3 out of top 5 ranked players who will NOT play at AG are:
Peter Gade, Chen Hong, Chen Jin
Top 10 players who will not play:
Peter Gade, Chen Hong, Chen Jin, Kenneth Jonassen, Chen Yu
taufik-ist
11-25-2006, 10:19 PM
Chen Jin will not compete in the individual events. So not only PG or KJ just missed. 3 out of top 5 ranked players who will NOT play at AG are:
Peter Gade, Chen Hong, Chen Jin
Top 10 players who will not play:
Peter Gade, Chen Hong, Chen Jin, Kenneth Jonassen, Chen Yu
they miss becos of limited quota
sickgal
11-26-2006, 11:57 AM
still.. it means that in the MS.. less well known players will be taking part..so i do agree with bananaboy said...hihi
Syaoran_Style
11-26-2006, 01:41 PM
hey man,
most top players in the world come from asia :p :D , and most of them are competiting in ASIAN GAMES DOHA
for the 'enlightenment' :)
top players who are competiting in ASIAN GAMES:
Ms:
Lindan, Bao, Chen JIn, Taufik H, Lcw, Hafidz, LHI, Boonsak
just missing 2 or 1 non asian top players : Peter Gade or KJ
MD:
Cai/fu, Markis/hendra,alven/luluk,korea MD, Mas Md
just missing 1or 2 non asia top players : erricsen/lungrad or blair/nathan
XD:
Nova/natsir,zzw/xzb, korea XD, Thai XD, Mas XD
just missing 2 non asian top players: nathan/gail or denmark XD
WS:
all china top players :), WMC
just missing 2 or 3 (not exactly) non asian top players :) : yao jie, pio yan, xiu wen
WD:
all china top players, mas pair
just missing 1 or 2 non asian top players: denmark or england pairs
Please .. it's PI HONGYAN & XU HUAIWEN :crying: :crying: :(
indra
11-27-2006, 02:26 AM
Badminton bad boy Hidayat to defend Asian Games title
http://www.brunet.bn/news/bb/thu/23pic67.jpg
http://www.brunet.bn/news/bb/thu/23pic69.jpg
Taufik Hidayat ... promises plenty of surprises.
HONG KONG (AFP) - The bad boy of badminton, Taufik Hidayat, has made a timely return to form and promises plenty of surprises in his quest to defend gold at the Asian Games in Doha.
For much of the year, the Olympic champion has been sidelined with a back injury that saw him slide down the world rankings.
The 25-year-old Indonesian crashed out of the world championships in Madrid in the third round, losing to China's Chen Hong in three sets.
But Hidayat proved he still has plenty of fire in his belly, rocketing to form at the Tokyo Open last month, downing some of the world's best shuttlers to set up a final showdown against world No.1 Lin Dan.
After clinching the first set, and battling hard in the second, it was, however, downhill from there. Hidayat suffered a meltdown in the crucial third losing 3-21 in a collapse that left fans and Lin puzzled.
"I couldn't cope with his speed in the first game but Taufik seemed to give up when I took the lead in the third," Lin said.
Known for his unpredictable playing style, Hidayat, the 2005 world champion, also has a history of temper tantrums.
At the last Asian Games four years ago in Busan, he held up the showpiece team final for two hours, throwing down his racket and walking off, upset over a line call.
Officials and teammates had to coax him back onto court, before South Korea went on to down the Indonesians.
"It took a big effort to persuade Taufik to resume the match," a team manager said later.
A Hidayat storm threatened in August in South Korea, when, again annoyed by line calls, he considered quitting a match.
He went one step further in Hong Kong a month later, picking up his bags in an apparent protest over the calls and walking out of his quarterfinal against Lin after only five points.
Docked five world rankings as punishment, the six-time Indonesian Open champion was unrepentant weeks later, calling on the sport's governing body to modernise the game and install cameras to eliminate such controversies.
"I don't want what happened at the Hong Kong Open to happen again," he said.
Yet despite the angry antics and injury layoff, Hidayat, fettered as a superstar in Indonesia and married to a daughter of the chairman of the nation's sports committee, remains one of badminton's greats.
And the experienced star, currently ranked 17 and the only male shuttler ever to win gold at the Olympics and world championships, stands a good chance in Doha where at least 12 of the top 20 players will do battle.
His main challenges are a cavalcade of Chinese including rival and current world champion Lin whose ability to play in any style and speed makes him favourite to steal the gold crown.
World silver medallist Bao Chunlai also stands in his way, although Hidayat won their last encounter in Tokyo.
However, other leading Chinese players, such as world number four Chen Jin, have been benched for Doha.
In a bold strategy, China has opted for younger shuttlers to fill its squad as the communist country attempts to clean sweep the seven medals on offer.
Head coach Li Yongbo said he was confident his young charges, who are being groomed for the Beijing Olympics in 2008, can add to the two gold China won four years ago.
"It was a big headache for us when we were choosing the squad, but our goal is to win more gold than at the last Asian Games," Li said. World number two, Malaysia's Lee Chong Wei, competing in his first Asian Games after missing Busan and Bangkok with a recurring knee injury, also threatens.
Baderz_Jas
11-27-2006, 02:49 AM
Badminton bad boy Hidayat to defend Asian Games title
http://www.brunet.bn/news/bb/thu/23pic67.jpg
http://www.brunet.bn/news/bb/thu/23pic69.jpg
Taufik Hidayat ... promises plenty of surprises.
HONG KONG (AFP) - The bad boy of badminton, Taufik Hidayat, has made a timely return to form and promises plenty of surprises in his quest to defend gold at the Asian Games in Doha.
For much of the year, the Olympic champion has been sidelined with a back injury that saw him slide down the world rankings.
The 25-year-old Indonesian crashed out of the world championships in Madrid in the third round, losing to China's Chen Hong in three sets.
But Hidayat proved he still has plenty of fire in his belly, rocketing to form at the Tokyo Open last month, downing some of the world's best shuttlers to set up a final showdown against world No.1 Lin Dan.
After clinching the first set, and battling hard in the second, it was, however, downhill from there. Hidayat suffered a meltdown in the crucial third losing 3-21 in a collapse that left fans and Lin puzzled.
"I couldn't cope with his speed in the first game but Taufik seemed to give up when I took the lead in the third," Lin said.
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thanks for that indra ;) :D I watched the dvd of the final in Japan Open, in the 3rd set (I think about 15-3 or something to Lin Dan :confused: ) TH was not moving at all AND when Lin Dan served the match point, TH slammed the shuttle into the net on purpose :mad: :mad: :mad: :crying: Bad Boy Taufik :D hehe, joking :D
cooler
11-27-2006, 02:53 AM
u should give the author the credit http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=118949&version=1&template_id=49&parent_id=29
saw that few days ago. Nothing new so I didn't post it.
I hope his promised surprise doesn't include early walk out, match cancellation or early fade out:p
sickgal
11-27-2006, 08:47 AM
cooler: let's keep our fingers cross!! haha
cao ci dan
11-27-2006, 09:38 PM
Badminton bad boy Hidayat to defend Asian Games title
http://www.brunet.bn/news/bb/thu/23pic69.jpg
Taufik Hidayat ... promises plenty of surprises.
HONG KONG (AFP) - The bad boy of badminton, Taufik Hidayat, has made a timely return to form and promises plenty of surprises in his quest to defend gold at the Asian Games in Doha.
:D not easy Taufik!!!another bad boy will be there!!:p
http://www.runsky.com/images/2006-11/26/fromjabbar706855-0.jpg
DinkAlot
11-27-2006, 09:48 PM
:D not easy Taufik!!!another bad boy will be there!!:p
http://www.runsky.com/images/2006-11/26/fromjabbar706855-0.jpg
You mean Bao Chun Lai will be there? :p
phaarix
11-27-2006, 11:35 PM
u should give the author the credit http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=118949&version=1&template_id=49&parent_id=29
saw that few days ago. Nothing new so I didn't post it.
I hope his promised surprise doesn't include early walk out, match cancellation or early fade out:p
I don't think that would be a "surprise" though :p.
Hope he does well in Doha and surprises us by not doing anything silly!
indra
11-28-2006, 12:05 AM
:D not easy Taufik!!!another bad boy will be there!!:p
http://www.runsky.com/images/2006-11/26/fromjabbar706855-0.jpg
Looking at LD's photo, he does not look confident enough to face TH:D .
ctjcad
11-28-2006, 01:13 AM
..and found this link/pic of Taufik(posted none other by our own cooler)..hehe:rolleyes:;):p:)
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7343 (post #2)
Btw, what a difference 4 yrs make..I noticed in 2002, there were so few posts on the AG..
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7266
Compare to this yr's, wow, so many threads and posts!:eek: :rolleyes: :D ;) :cool:
ctjcad
11-28-2006, 01:16 AM
Looking at LD's photo, he does not look confident enough to face TH:D .
...looks can be deceiving..:rolleyes: :) :D ;)
cooler
11-28-2006, 01:58 AM
..and found this link/pic of Taufik(posted none other by our own cooler)..hehe:rolleyes:;):p:)
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7343 (post #2)
Btw, what a difference 4 yrs make..I noticed in 2002, there were so few posts on the AG..
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7266
Compare to this yr's, wow, so many threads and posts!:eek: :rolleyes: :D ;) :cool:
:eek: From the press conference on the HK Open walkout ruling, http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38469 the spokemen said the sentence was light because it was taufik first offense.....Such a glaring mistake they have made or overlooked.
Baderz_Jas
11-28-2006, 09:57 AM
...looks can be deceiving..:rolleyes: :) :D ;)
yep yep :D hehe:) :rolleyes:
Baderz_Jas
11-28-2006, 09:58 AM
You mean Bao Chun Lai will be there? :p
both are bad boys! :D lol :D
cooler
11-28-2006, 11:16 AM
...looks can be deceiving..:rolleyes: :) :D ;)maybe LD has better deception, it fooled indra already:cool: :p
bananaboy
11-28-2006, 12:14 PM
maybe LD has better deception, it fooled indra already:cool: :p
Lin Dan has never been known as much of a deceptive player... so it only proves that it doesn't take much to fool Indra.:p:D
hydrocyanic
11-29-2006, 01:30 AM
You mean Bao Chun Lai will be there? :p
from look, i think BCL is the last person to be called bad boy in badminton... :P
DinkAlot
11-29-2006, 02:15 AM
from look, i think BCL is the last person to be called bad boy in badminton... :P
That's my point, I was being facetious. :p
hydrocyanic
11-29-2006, 02:25 AM
That's my point, I was being facetious. :p
i know, just stating an obvious fact :D
Baderz_Jas
11-29-2006, 06:54 AM
Btw, what a difference 4 yrs make..I noticed in 2002, there were so few posts on the AG..
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7266
Compare to this yr's, wow, so many threads and posts!:eek: :rolleyes: :D ;) :cool:
lol :D compare the members in 2002 and now 2006 NOV. 29th :D hehe :p
BC has grown alot :D
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