No one has posted anything about the Jiangsu Team's Vancouver visit. There will be a demonstration match between the Jiangsu Team and the best (hmmm, more like turkey shoot for the visiting team) that the Province of British Columbia has to offer. The event will be in the first week of January, 2007. Head coach, Sun Jun, will come along for the fun (ehhh, more like vacation for the entire team).

BC Badminton Federation raised the airfare for the Jiangsu Team I think. VRC had a tournament on Saturday to raise funds for the living expense of the visiting team in Vancouver.

It was a very fun tourney. Coach Ming booked the courts for the participants. So nice of him :D.

Will this include the National Players that are affiliated to Jiangsu Province (eg. Chen Jin). Or just the Province team players?

Good luck to the BC Team!!:)

I believe Xia's wife - Jin Beilei is from Jiangsu. Wonder if the couple will make the trip as well? :rolleyes:

Btw, anyone knows about the visiting roster (or the proposed ones)?

I will post more details on Sunday morning :D.

I will post more details on Sunday morning :D.

I wait with bated breath Master Pete! :D

Master Dan I will summarize the poster when I am at the club on Saturday evening :).

I wait with bated breath Master Pete! :D

I'll be around the first week of January - need to check this out!!!

Yes, Master Wolff. The clan is waiting for you and Master Dan for the Christmas bash at VRC.

I'll be around the first week of January - need to check this out!!!

Really - The Northern Wolff and the Gentle Panda may share the same court...?


Sweet.

A Bash it will be.

My apology. I was just teasing Master Dan to come out to the GWN. No, I don't think he will drop by . . . :D

Really - The Northern Wolff and the Gentle Panda may share the same court...?


Sweet.

A Bash it will be.

wow i am lost now ... XD i wanted to join that tourny but i was at VLt =(

The Jiangsu Team will arrive on Dec 27 and stay until Jan 5. They will rotate between different badminton clubs.

WOOO.... I'll be in BC till January 7th.. perfect.. I'd really like to see the demonstration matches (not be a victim :P)

wow this is turning out to be a very exciting holiday (in no particular order)
a) join forces with the Wolff Clan for the C2 tourney
b) Vancouver Canucks vs Dallas stars hockey game @ GM Place
c) possibly watch the demonstration match at VRC
d) EAT LIKE A KING!! did someone say... All You... CAN... EAT!!!??
e) visit family!

Unfortunately, this event will be postponed to February (around the 4th or 5th... for about 9 days).

There were problems in getting VISAs... so no exhibition in January.

Who is playing for BC?

Pretty much everyone on the BC Canada Winter Games team...

Well people, here's some news. CBC TV was at RichmondPro to do some taping of the match. They will air some highlights and a 5 minute feature on either Weds 14 or 21 Feb at approx 6:45 pm. It's part of the sports portion of CBC News. So keep your eyes peeled!:)

More pics later this evening

Any results from last night's match at VRC?

Both teams played their hearts out with tremendous rallies, trick shots and textbook technics.........
Here are some blurrily pics:D :crying: :D

Great to see lil badrad and badelbow playing (and VRC facility :D). Still remember how badly I got whipped last time. :o

Someone look oh so familiar in the group picture

I can say "OMG"... :eek: This applies to both the CHN players, and our BC/BFers. ;)

Thanks for the pics. Nice to see a good turnout too! :)

Jiangsu Team Visit: RichmondPro
This was my first glimpse of the “superteam” from China. Sun Jun’s team. Jiangsu Provincial team. The promise was that you would be dazzled by superb skill and athleticism.

RichmondPro’s schedule for the Jiangsu Team exhibition was from 6pm to 9pm. Driving into the parking lot, I couldn’t help noticing the CBC News (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) van parked off to the side. Wow! News coverage? For badminton? Maybe they’re lost looking for the hockey rink, was the thought going through my head.

I put money into the donation box, and walked over to courts 9 and 10 in the middle of the hall. The Canada Winter Team was warming up, and Sarah Kong was being interviewed by the CBC reporter. A little later, while she was warming up with overheads and lunging for drops, the CBC crew was following her back and forth with a large handheld TV camera. Uhmmm, you should be pointing the camera at the Jiangsu team, dude. That’s Sun Jun courtside behind you, Mr. Reporter.

That’s when the Jiangsu Team showed up on the far side of the hall and starting sparring and warming up. The Team consisted of 6 men, and 3 women players. Since I don’t know their names, I’ll make up something up to refer to them:


CurvyLady: I use this because it’s a euphemism (I Googled) for “chubby.” By the same token, you can call me “curvy” woodchuck.
GraciousSmileLady: Always ready to smile and gracious at every opportunity, like when hitting a frame shot, or making a mistake on court.
SinglesLady: Movement, physical build very suited for Women’s Single.


CurvyLady and GraciousSmileLady are clearly doubles players and partners, since their physical stature, movement and strategies are doubles-oriented.

Now for the men:


DoublesRightHanded
DoublesLeftHanded
SpringyShort
SpringyTall
SinglesShort
SinglesTall


It’s quite remarkable to see that the players’ physical build matches up to their specialty. Both DoublesRightHanded and DoublesLeftHanded are big, stocky and muscular.

SpringyShort and SpringTall are also doubles players and partners, although they are different because physically, they resemble Lee Chong Wei, tall, skinny but very, very, very, very, very, very, very quick and fast. Did I mention they were quick and fast?

SinglesShort: what can I say, he plays singles, and he’s short, 5 foot 8 (170 cm) but covers the court well with speed.

SinglesTall: One step to anywhere. Plays very fluid, and very relaxed in all shots, even smashes. A joy to watch. If you ever want to watch grace in strokes and perfect technique, put out a request to anyone who recorded this guy in action and post up on any one of the public video hosting site, like YouTube or GoogleVideo.

Man, I wish I could hit like they do, the girls and guys of the Jiangsu Team. Effortless and graceful. But anyone can look great during warm-ups. On to the games.

After the introductions, things finally got underway by 7 pm. The format was:

Two Women’s Singles
1. Sarah Kong vs CurvyLady
2. Alice Man vs SinglesLady

Two Men’s Singles
1. Tim Ma vs SinglesTall
2. Richard Liang vs SinglesShort

One Women’s Doubles
1. Phyllis Chan & Melody Chang (unsure of last name) vs CurvyLady and GraciousSmileLady

Two Men’s Doubles
1. Alvin Lau & Toby Ng vs DoublesRightHanded & DoublesLeftHanded
2. Derrick Ng & Kyle Holoboff vs SpringyShort and SpringyTall

Two Mixed Doubles
1. Don’t know. Didn’t stay to watch.
2. Don’t know. Didn’t stay to watch.


Women’s Singles
Both the Jiangsu Team members, CurvyLady and SinglesLady were not in any trouble at all by either Alice nor Sarah. CurvyLady and SinglesLady did not experience any pressure situation at all, having possess the power, skill, fitness, strategy-mindedness of any shots that Alice or Sarah attempted.

I’m sorry to say, the difference is like night and day. If they wanted to, they could’ve chosen to close out the singles matches very easily. But I’ll say what’s on most viewers mind. The Jiangsu Team must be under orders to provide a “good exhibition” or some sorts, as they held back on plenty of opportunities. Look for my next report on the VRC exhibition for one Jiangsu player that must have missed the briefing or instructions.

The fast clears, followed by sharp drops, then the back-breaking low push or clear regiment that seems to be the staple or method adopted by the Canada team posed no threat at all. But CurvyLady and SinglesLady court coverage were excellent, not to mention their superior fitness. Whatever Sarah and Alice could do, they could do better, and in addition, incorporated deception and variety-of-shots to their game.

And if that wasn’t enough, CurvyLady and SinglesLady could smash at will. Their fitness saw to that.

Men’s Singles
Team Canada won both their singles game. Why? I would hazard a guess that both SinglesShort and SinglesTall are inexperienced or the most junior of the Jiangsu Team.

I’ll say this though. Richard Liang was pushed to his absolute limits againsts SinglesShort. Three sets. Three close sets. SinglesShort fitness is again superior (surprise, surprise) pulling out smashes whenever he wanted to. Both players were playing in rhythm, and kudos to Richang Liang for being able to neutralize SinglesShort smashes with nice blocks to the net and keeping the rally alive.

Second singles. Now this was surprising. SinglesTall had very nice strokes and techniques, but somehow lost both games to Tim Ma. Tim looked like the more experienced player in this game. Not much I can write about this game since this was played on the far court, and I was concentrating to Richard vs SinglesShort game. SinglesTall had a lot of unforced error which was quite uncharacteristic given the hype of super-team of Jiangsu Province. Sun Jun’s Team. I think there’s a lot more room for improvement for SinglesTall, and he comes across as a player-in-training.

Women’s Doubles
Melody has the power, but not the agility, so catch her out of position, and wait for the barbeque pork/meat/whatever to be served up.

Phyllis has the speed but not the power, so catch her out of position, and wait for the barbeque pork/meat/whatever to be served up.

Which is exactly what the CurvyLady and GraciousSmileLady did, with predictable results.

A rout, no fight.

Men’s Doubles
The most exciting and anticipated game of the night. DoublesLeftHanded and DoublesRightHanded vs Toby and Alvin. Boy, are the Jiangsu Team Doubles tough or what.

What stood out the most, again, was how reserved DoublesLeftHanded and DoubleRightHanded were. These guys were absolutely sticking to the “don’t embarrass the Canadian Team; don’t smash; make it a good game” briefing or something. To see players of this calibre at this fitness level and with muscles (DoublesLeftHanded) NOT SMASH or half-smash is painful, sinful or not fulfilling a duty, seems like. Anyway this is my opinion. Disclaimers at the end of this post.

At every serve that Toby or Alvin did, these guys were right there, stepping up and meeting the shuttlecock more than halfway between the service-line and the net, but all, read this, ALL their returns where soft pushes off the the side. No sharp punches downward.

Again, these guys were under no presure at all from Toby and Alvin. The reflexes of DoublesRightHanded and DoublesLeftHanded were superb. Calmly meeting and short-swinging any pushes, or smashes directed at them and pushing the shuttle down the sides.

Any high lobs directed at DoublesLeftHanded and DoublesRightHanded were half-smashed down, and one or twice a “hard” smash was performed. I think I counted like four of them in the entire two sets they played.

Second doubles on the far court. I’m sorry to say this, but Derrick had his work cut out for him, as his partner’s shots were sub-par for a competition of that level, court coverage was poor, neither covering his section well, nor covering Derrick’s when out-of-position. Derrick was playing against three in that game. Results? Predictable.

SpringyShort and SpringyTall are amazingly quick, but lacking power compared to DoublesLeftHanded and DoublesRightHanded. These were doubles-in-training squad, whereas DoublesLeftHanded and partner were bona-fide players. I cannot stress how fast the Springy duo are. But read my upcoming VRC report of how SpringyShort completely destroyed and decimated Richard Liang the next night.

Mixed
Didn’t stay to watch, since I had seen all the Jiangsu Team members play, and unless Sun Jun was stepping up to play, I figured I’ll watch the mixed game the next night at VRC.

Disclaimer
The badminton community in Vancouver is small and familiar. I also understand that members of the Canada Winter Games Team read this forum, and that some items I wrote about reflects negatively on them. Also, parents of the Canada Team are active, contributing members of the forum who might not like some things written here, or the accuracy of my account.

So flame on.

“Dave, I’ve seen you play. You suck compared to (any member of Canada Team).”
Yes, I’m well aware of this. But I’m not playing against the Jiangsu Team anytime soon.

“What gives you the right to comment negatively on (this member of Canada Team)?”
When you play publicly, your game shows up publicly. Good or bad.

“Show me proof that the Jiangsu Team is holding back.”
Sure, let me open up your eyelids.

Well people, here's some news. CBC TV was at RichmondPro to do some taping of the match. They will air some highlights and a 5 minute feature on either Weds 14 or 21 Feb at approx 6:45 pm. It's part of the sports portion of CBC News. So keep your eyes peeled!:)

More pics later this evening

WOW!!! Madbad I use shaw cable but I forgot the channel for CBC can you tell me what channel it is?

Dave, wonderful report you have there!

Great report Dave; pretty much accurate although I thought Sarah started to show better in the second game after a nervous first. And I think Tim split his match with Springy Tall. XD dominated by the Jiangsu team on the superior strength of their ladies.

Do you mind if I copy it onto the RichmondPro thread. Thanks:)
mb

WOW!!! Madbad I use shaw cable but I forgot the channel for CBC can you tell me what channel it is?
In Richmond, it Ch 3. :)

Copy away, madbad :) ... and Tim played against SinglesTall. I must use better monikers in the future.

-dave

In Richmond, it Ch 3. :)

Thanks..it's ch 3 for vancouver too I just checked.:D

Copy away, madbad :) ... and Tim played against SinglesTall. I must use better monikers in the future.

-dave

Springy Tall... Singles Tall... what's the difference. All I know is that they're all springy, fit and quick :D Took a few more pics with the team this afternoon as they came to Ellie for a chow down.

mb

Wow! That's a great account of the Richmond Pro games, Dave.

Can't wait to see the VRC one...

Just to add my 2 cents on the ladies singles matches, I thought the Jiangsu players weren't so much fitter than Alice and Sarah as much as they were STRONGER.

I think Alice and Sarah will get much stronger as they get older, and might then be able to play more like the Jiangsu ladies.

-j

Springy Tall... Singles Tall... what's the difference. All I know is that they're all springy, fit and quick :D Took a few more pics with the team this afternoon as they came to Ellie for a chow down.

mb

Post please! :)

Also, why not post the names of the players, so know who they are?

Otherwise, we'll have "SpringyShort", etc. in our heads for all time! :D

-j

Post please! :)

Also, why not post the names of the players, so know who they are?

Otherwise, we'll have "SpringyShort", etc. in our heads for all time! :D

-j

I'm trying to get the names from Al Mawani. He's got them and said he'd email them to me later this week. In the meantime we'll have to live with names like "singlesshort" and "curvylady" :D

BTW, all the RichmondPro match pics are on the RichmondPro pics (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40591) thread. Still adding to them.

I see toby playing!!!!

...but looking at some pics, esp. post #22, there's a player from the Jiangsu team that resembles a bit like Chen Jin(sitting somewhat in the middle, a tad to the right, above a lady wearing a black jacket)...:confused:;)

...but looking at some pics, esp. post #22, there's a player from the Jiangsu team that resembles a bit like Chen Jin(sitting somewhat in the middle, a tad to the right, above a lady wearing a black jacket)...:confused:;)

it looks so CJ to me too :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

ctjcad, Wong8Egg ... that's because that's Chen Jin. Gong Wei Ji is next to him, and in the back row, Lu Lan.

Read the title (from two and a half years ago), it's the World Junior Championship.

Although Chen Jin is from Jiangsu Province (so I'm told), that's a different squad you're looking at.

-dave

ctjcad, Wong8Egg ... that's because that's Chen Jin. Gong Wei Ji is next to him, and in the back row, Lu Lan.

Read the title (from two and a half years ago), it's the World Junior Championship.

Although Chen Jin is from Jiangsu Province (so I'm told), that's a different squad you're looking at.

-dave
Yep, you beat me to it...as always, Mr. Swift :D

chen jin is not here but still, i think there is a big player at the fourth row, the third girl from the left, if i am not wrong she is Wang Lin:eek:

Jiangsu Team Visit: Vancouver Racquets Club

Wednesday night, it was Vancouver Racquets Club (VRC)’s turn to host the Jiangsu Team. VRC is one of of the few establised clubs to have facilities specifically built for badminton. Not a multi-purpose gym nor converted warehouse.

For those not familiar with VRC’s layout, it’s six courts side-by-side, stretching from the entrance to the far end, numbered one through six. There’s a glassed-off viewing area on the second floor above court one, and the exhibition matches took place at the two far court, court five and court six.

Why am I explaining this? Well, everything was structured so that only people that donated five dollars and up would be allowed courtside access, and the free-loaders would have the viewing area on the second floor, four courts away.

Like RichmondPro, the format of the games stayed the same:


Two Women’s Singles
Two Men’s Singles
One Women’s Doubles
Two Men’s Doubles
Two Mixed Dobles


For the BC (British Columbia) Team, the lineup remained the same as in RichmondPro, except:

Men’s Doubles 2: Chris Lee & Kyle Holoboff (Chris replaced Derrick Ng)

Can’t say for Mixed Doubles because I missed these games the previous night.

The Jiangsu Team did a mix-and-match and separated their doubles pair, and inter-mingled their Singles player into the mix. Here:

Men’s Single 1: SinglesShort (same)
Men’s Single 2: SpringyShort (changed)
Men’s Doubles 1: DoublesRightHanded and SpringyTall (changed)
Men’s Doubles 2: DoublesLeftHanded and SinglesTall (changed)
Women’s Single 1: CurvyLady (same)
Women’s Single 2: GraciousSmileLady (changed)
Women’s Double: CurvyLady and SinglesLady (changed)
Mixed Double 1: SpringyShort and SinglesLady
Mixed Double 2: DoublesLeftHanded and GraciousSmileLady


Pre-Game
So now, the players have had a few days to famliarize themselves with each other, BC Team and Jiangsu Team, and in the warm-ups, the BC Team guys were sparring with the Jiangsu Team girls, smiling and joking around. Wonder why the BC Team girls weren’t fraternizing with the Jiangsu Team guys in the same fashion?

But that’s a lesson in sociology.


Women’s Singles
Alice Man and Sarah Kong, I think lost both games to CurvyLady and GraciousSmileLady, no surprises. Same gameplay, outcome as previous night at RichmondPro.


Men’s Singles
In most badminton tournaments, exhibitions, I would guess that the majority of spectators are waiting for the Men’s Doubles as the most exciting and thrilling spectacle. Let me tell you, all the drama this night was in the Men’s Singles 1. But first:

Mens Singles 2: Tim Ma vs SinglesShort. Report? Who cares, as most people there were watching …

Men’s Singles 1: Richard Liang vs SpringyShort. Let me set this up correctly so you’ll understand the environment.

All the other BC Team players and Jiangsu Team players are at the courts early, stretching, sparring, warming up. Richard Liang was in his street clothes and didn’t really get an opportunity to warm up adequately. Another way of looking at it is that he didn’t bother getting there early enough to prepare. Whatever.

So while the VRC director, coaches, representatives, were giving short speeches and everyone else was sitting quietly and politely, there’s Richard on the court at full stretch, left leg first, then right leg, then this, then that.

Now this is my personal opinion and observation. Richard Liang has a peculiar attitude and demeanor on court, during games. Bored look, lackadaisical stance, checks out to see if the “crowd” or whoever, witnessed a shot or winner that he’d just executed. I think show-boating is the word I’m looking for. Again this is my OPINION. Yes he can out-smash me, and give me a big, fat, twenty-one zero without even trying. I think, attention-seeker is another phrase I hear being tossed around.

Nothing wrong with that, as a lot of sports figures get a thrill out of attention-seeking, Roddick or Nadal comes to mind, in championship tennis.

Okay, now it’s set up.

Mens Singles 1 on court six, right next to where I’m sitting. SpringyShort has a bravado attitude, puts down his drink in a cup right where the BC Team is sitting courtside. His side of the court. Then he steps on the court and decides he wants to start. Lawrence, the umpire tells him Richard Liang needs to warm-up a bit, and to have a couple of warm-up rallies.

SpringyShort shrugs his shoulders and (I imagine) says, “fine, whatever.”

Then Richard puts up some easy lobs, or clears to limber up. SpringyShort has other ideas. After a couple of return lobs, proceeds to sharp drop it to the front corners, then low-push to the back, forcing Richard into game-time movement.

I don’t think Richard appreciated that, and decides maybe it’s a one-off thing. Except SpringyShort started doing it over and over and over again. I imagine Richard must have got a little frustrated with that because he ended the warm-up and started to test the tube of shuttles to be used for the game.

Apparently SpringyShort has other ideas again, as he caught almost all the shuttles in mid-air and tossed them to the umpires chair. Some of them he just hit to the chair. By this time Richard’s glaring at SpringShort with a sort of “WTF are you doing?” kind of look.

I’m loving it.

Everyone sitting around me were murmuring and pointing.

I’m still loving it. SpringyShort had a little aloofness about the whole thing and walks around with PLENTY of arrogance. Wait, that’s negative. With plenty of self-confidence in himself, like he could win this game no problem.

I’m telling Growler (brother) sitting next to me, that SpringyShort is playing psychological mind-games with Richard Liang, and I couldn’t wait for the game to start. Now either Richard’s going to smoke this guy off the court, or SpringyShort was going to do this the whole night, so you can imagine my anticipation. I hoped my analysis was correct.

I wasn’t disappointed. Richard serves long and deep. SpringyShort steps almost two feet behind the back line, jumps up and power-smashes the shuttle so hard, I thought the goose from which the shuttle-feathers was plucked, actually bounced-up in the goose-graveyard somewhere in China.

Richard Liang had no answer to SpringyShort, as SpringyShort moved around the court at super-human speed.

Any sharp pushes attempted by Richard, SpringShort’s footwork and speed got him behind the shot quick enough to be smashed. And any strategy Richard put out to get SpringyShort to cover the diagonal, SpringyShort had the quickness to either smash down from the back, or get the shuttle above the net at the front.

SpringyShort even feigned a yawn!

I’M LOVING IT!!!

At various time when he was going to pull away, the Jiangsu instructions must have activated in his brain, and he would wait for Richard to pull up even in the score before continuing on the massacre.

At this point I’m actually feeling sorry for Richard, as this is NOT the sort of exhibition attention-seekers are looking for.

I mentioned again to Growler that it’s just SpringyShort’s initial energy burst that he can do this, and after six points or so, he’ll settle down to a regular single’s game rhythm, slow, methodical, very few smashes.

Or so I thought. At some point when SpringShort had something like fifteen points, and Richard was trailing, Richard somehow was gaining point by point, and I told Growler, “SEE!”

SpringyShort looked a little mellow now, and called time-out and took a sip from his cup and motioned “I’m tired” or something to the BC Team sitting on his side of the court.

Remember the goose-graveyard? Well now the goose had a second wake-up call, as SpringyShort re-energized and smoked Richard for rest of the set.

I felt really sad at the end of the match, like when a good movie ends, because that was the match of the NIGHT!


Women’s Double
SinglesLady and CurvyLady made short work, defeating Melody and Phyllis handily. Same gameplay, strategy as in the RichmondPro exhibition.


Men’s Double
Men’s Double 1: Toby Ng and Alvin Lau versus DoublesRightHanded and SpringyTall. Again SpringyTall is a double-player-in-training, and made unforced errors and bad judgement shots that gave away cheap points.

Toby and Alvin split a set between the Jiangsu Team players. I personally would’ve like the same team (DoublesLeftHanded and DoublesRightHanded) to have played this game.

Same strategy, gameplay as the previous night, but with more errors on SpringyTall. DoublesRightHanded is a joy to watch because he’s the rock on that doubles team.

DoublesLeftHanded is the rock on the other team.

Chris Lee and Kyle Holoboff versus DoublesLeftHanded and SinglesTall. Same deal as RichmondPro, only substitute Derrick Ng for Chris Lee. Poor Chris. And the fellow sitting next to me commented that the Jiangsu Team hardly broke sweat.

Mixed Double
Pair 1: Derrick Ng and Charmain versus DoublesLeftHanded and GracefulSmileLady
Pair 2: Toby Ng and Crystal versus SpringyShort and SinglesLady

How to analyse this? Okay the positives. Derrick and Charmain work well together and cover loose spot and out-of-position situation by rotating seamlessly.

I think madbad said it best, that these matches are won on the strengths of the lady players.

The BC Team lady players are not on par with the Jiangsu Team Lady players. What is severely lacking on the BC Team side is their inability to get themselves out of trouble when taken out of position. More definitively, the lady players absolutely have to be able to receive smashes from the likes of Toby or Alvin. Never mind if on the run, but if feet are planted, must have the ability block or hit a good quality return to retain or regain the front-back formation.

Both ladies did not have this ability, with predictable results.

Badrad’s going to kill me next time I see him. Wait, the whole badrad clan is going to kill me. Not to mention the badelbow clan.

Same disclaimer apply.

ctjcad, Wong8Egg ... that's because that's Chen Jin. Gong Wei Ji is next to him, and in the back row, Lu Lan.

Read the title (from two and a half years ago), it's the World Junior Championship.

Although Chen Jin is from Jiangsu Province (so I'm told), that's a different squad you're looking at.

-dave
..gotcha-thx for confirming that:cool: ...yah, no wonder he looks so familiar in that pic-time flies doesn't it...the title of the post mentions it, but i was rather "skeptical" plus i didn't know CJ was part of that team & visited Vancouver...:o :p :D ;)
*Btw, wood_22_chuck, after watching the current batch of players perform, of course not @ 100%;), from all those players, who do you think has the potential, within say 1-2 yrs time frame, to be on the CHN's main squad..:confused:

ctjcad, Wong8Egg ... that's because that's Chen Jin. Gong Wei Ji is next to him, and in the back row, Lu Lan.

Read the title (from two and a half years ago), it's the World Junior Championship.

Although Chen Jin is from Jiangsu Province (so I'm told), that's a different squad you're looking at.

-dave
i also recognize Jiang Yanjiao, Wang Lin. wow. imagine if Chen Jin has gotten on court.

they should've done a SpringyShort vs. Chen Jin, or Chen Jin vs. Gong Weijie match!

btw, awesome report wood_22_chuck!!

:D Geat report, Wood_22_Chuck.

:( I missed them on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Great report again Dave.

Re. Singles 1, I'm of the belief you have to have that killer attitude (self-confidence as you call it) to be the best. Lin Dan and Taufik carry themselves that way. So, are we witnessing the emergence of another star player from the Chinese badminton factory? Very rare do we see such demonstrative types.

Also, I wonder if Richard Liang inadvertantly (sp?) jolted his opponent into action with his lacadaisical and uninterested air. Perhaps he thought Richard was trying to show him up. In either case, it sounded like the you got to see the real goods this guy possesses. As you rightly pointed out in the RichmondPro report, these guys weren't really trying.

Who do I think, within 1 to 2 years time frame? None. These guys have passed the optimum age for development.

-dave



..gotcha-thx for confirming that:cool: ...yah, no wonder he looks so familiar in that pic-time flies doesn't it...the title of the post mentions it, but i was rather "skeptical" plus i didn't know CJ was part of that team & visited Vancouver...:o :p :D ;)
*Btw, wood_22_chuck, after watching the current batch of players perform, of course not @ 100%;), from all those players, who do you think has the potential, within say 1-2 yrs time frame, to be on the CHN's main squad..:confused:

Great report again, Dave! Wish I was there but other things got in the way.

You should be a reporter dave!!!

So Dave when do you want me to put in that order for a bullet proof vest? :D

wood_22_chuck...:D :D

Fantastic and entertaining writeup...:D :D :D

Was at the RmdPro game, yeah...I think both side are not going all out. But, different class anyway. In the singles between R Liang & Singleshort..the chinese player was a bit miffed, bad line calls and umpire losing track of score. Yeah, the Singlestall play was so fluid...Doubles, you call it. Would have love to see them go all out...
One thing that stand out, the chinese players have the kind of confidence in their skills, that no shots are non-returnable/retriveable. Even if the shuttle is like just on the floor, as long as they can slip the racquet in-between, just a flick of the wrist the shuttle is saved. And also, so many times their racquet is there before the shuttles, the option of shots to return....:eek:


Too bad didn't get a chance to chat with you.

ctjcad, Wong8Egg ... that's because that's Chen Jin.

Here's a better visual. :)

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2545/jiangsuwq0.jpg

wood_22_chuck...:D :D

Fantastic and entertaining writeup...:D :D :D

Was at the RmdPro game, yeah...I think both side are not going all out. But, different class anyway. In the singles between R Liang & Singleshort..the chinese player was a bit miffed, bad line calls and umpire losing track of score. Yeah, the Singlestall play was so fluid...Doubles, you call it. Would have love to see them go all out...
One thing that stand out, the chinese players have the kind of confidence in their skills, that no shots are non-returnable/retriveable. Even if the shuttle is like just on the floor, as long as they can slip the racquet in-between, just a flick of the wrist the shuttle is saved. And also, so many times their racquet is there before the shuttles, the option of shots to return....:eek:

Too bad didn't get a chance to chat with you.

You were there? How come I didn't see you? I agree that the CHN team were trolling in 2nd gear most of the time but as wood_22_chuck said, they were probably under instructions to make a match of it. See you Sunday?

This is late, but again, very funnee write-up wood_22_chuck! :D

Couple of nit-picky things, tho... Sarah and Alice actually split their matches with the ladies from Jiangsu. And you mixed up the listing for singles; should have been:

Men's Singles 1: SpringyShort vs. Richard Liang
Men's Singles 2: SinglesShort vs. Tim Ma

Then it all makes sense... ;)

Did anyone catch the 1st and last exhibition matches? Would be good if reports could be posted for those, too. I'm especially interested in how the very first one went, before both teams had seen the other play.

Madbad alluded to the BC team not doing as well at Douglas College in another post? Details?

Dave and I went to play at VRC last night, with a couple of guys that we'd made an appointment with. Guess what? The whole Jiangsu team showed up, too! Seems a certain group had arranged to play some friendly games with them, including Sun Jun! Should have brought the camera, but then we didn't know they were going to be there. :crying:

-j

I see toby playing!!!!

Toby and Alvin will also be carrying the BC flag into the openning ceremonies of the Canada winter games at the end of this month.....please goto Clearone thread.....A big Boost for Badminton..... thread for detail news release.....they were also on Fairchild evening News that night.......

I was informed of this pay-to-play scheme. Unfortunately, other priorities got the better of me and couldn't attend :D.

Dave and I went to play at VRC last night, with a couple of guys that we'd made an appointment with. Guess what? The whole Jiangsu team showed up, too! Seems a certain group had arranged to play some friendly games with them, including Sun Jun! Should have brought the camera, but then we didn't know they were going to be there. :crying:

-j

How did Timeless and Speed78 swung a seat at the group picture? And wood_22_chuck, great write-up on both sets. Yeah, both the Badrad and Badelbow famillies will tie you to the net and take turns bouncing shuttles off your head :D :D

Shopping list:
Bulletproof vest from Nephrus - check.
Bouncing shuttles of my head. Hmm. Add on shock helmet.

-dave

PAY-to-play?? Ah! That explains the complicated-looking rotation scheme we saw one of them carrying around; we knew it was to make sure everyone there got a chance to play with the players. I guess now it makes sense.

I was informed of this pay-to-play scheme. Unfortunately, other priorities got the better of me and couldn't attend :D.

How did Timeless and Speed78 swung a seat at the group picture? And wood_22_chuck, great write-up on both sets. Yeah, both the Badrad and Badelbow famillies will tie you to the net and take turns bouncing shuttles off your head :D :D

I don't think Dave would have anything to fear from the Badelbow clan; Toby and Derrick played very well, and Dave said as much in his article... unless I missed something when I read it?

Here's a better visual. :)

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2545/jiangsuwq0.jpg

waitt... so who are the 3 from left to right??

..i notice another gal who looks familiar, with a short crop haircut, head turning and smiling, sitting on the 2nd row, just behind the lady wearing a white jacket...;) :cool:

We just finished dinner with the Jiangsu Team.

Here is a pre-dinner picture of a couple of BC Team members.

Here is another one.

Ahhhh .... for the last pic:

Front Row (left to right):

CurvyLady
GraciousSmileLady
VRC Player - Julie
SinglesLady
SpringyShort


BACK ROW (left to right):

SpringyTall
SinglesTall
SinglesShort
DoublesLeftHanded
DoublesRightHanded


Notice their physical build to their badminton specialty (doubles/singles).

-dave

Sun Jun liked my reports so much (hee-hee-hee), he wanted a picture with me (on his right) and Growler (on his left). My skill level has improved being in Sun Jun's aura.

-dave

My skill level has improved being in Sun Jun's aura.

-dave

So you and Growler are ready to wipe the floor with Richard and I in a revenge encounter:D :D

So you and Growler are ready to wipe the floor with Richard and I in a revenge encounter:D :D

We're friendly players; we don't play for revenge... ;)

As you can see, being in the presence of Sun Jun has enhanced our calm demeanor! :D

-j

Toby and Alvin will also be carrying the BC flag into the openning ceremonies of the Canada winter games at the end of this month.....please goto Clearone thread.....A big Boost for Badminton..... thread for detail news release.....they were also on Fairchild evening News that night.......

AHHH I didn't know about it or I would have watched the Fairchild evening news.:( Do you think they'll show the news again?

We just finished dinner with the Jiangsu Team.
..ahem, if my memory serves me well from looking @ another picture a while back, Pete_LSD, is that you standing on the left @ very back row, wearing a grey sweater??..if that's not you, then pardon me..:confused: :rolleyes: ;)

ctjcad: From asking around, it seems that young talents are picked from the provincial team definitely before they reach 15 years old, to train in the National Squad. The remaining team compete at the national (inter-province) level inside the country, i.e. these guys.

Pete LSD suffers from the curse of photographers, in this case. The photographer's never in the picture, cause he's (she's) the one holding the camera!

-dave

ctjcad: From asking around, it seems that young talents are picked from the provincial team definitely before they reach 15 years old, to train in the National Squad. The remaining team compete at the national (inter-province) level inside the country, i.e. these guys.

Pete LSD suffers from the curse of photographers, in this case. The photographer's never in the picture, cause he's (she's) the one holding the camera!

-dave
..i see, i see:cool: ..But how come the Jiangsu team that came 2+ yrs ago had some junior players playing(ie. CJ, WL)??..:confused:

That wasn't the Jiangsu Provincial Team. They were the National Junior Squad(s).

I was busy taking photographs . . .

..i see, i see:cool: ..But how come the Jiangsu team that came 2+ yrs ago had some junior players playing(ie. CJ, WL)??..:confused:

..i see, i see:cool: ..But how come the Jiangsu team that came 2+ yrs ago had some junior players playing(ie. CJ, WL)??..:confused:

You mean the players that came 2 years ago for the World Junior tournament?

Wow, looks like a EWS - Early Warning System the next time I have chance to play against you guys... :eek::)


Sun Jun liked my reports so much (hee-hee-hee), he wanted a picture with me (on his right) and Growler (on his left). My skill level has improved being in Sun Jun's aura.

-dave

That wasn't the Jiangsu Provincial Team. They were the National Junior Squad(s).

I was busy taking photographs . . .
...oops, okay:o :p ...thanks for clearing that up...;) :cool:

[quote=wood_22_chuck]Jiangsu Team Visit: Vancouver Racquets Club

All the other BC Team players and Jiangsu Team players are at the courts early, stretching, sparring, warming up. Richard Liang was in his street clothes and didn’t really get an opportunity to warm up adequately. Another way of looking at it is that he didn’t bother getting there early enough to prepare. Whatever.

So while the VRC director, coaches, representatives, were giving short speeches and everyone else was sitting quietly and politely, there’s Richard on the court at full stretch, left leg first, then right leg, then this, then that.

Now this is my personal opinion and observation. Richard Liang has a peculiar attitude and demeanor on court, during games. Bored look, lackadaisical stance, checks out to see if the “crowd” or whoever, witnessed a shot or winner that he’d just executed. I think show-boating is the word I’m looking for. Again this is my OPINION. Yes he can out-smash me, and give me a big, fat, twenty-one zero without even trying. I think, attention-seeker is another phrase I hear being tossed around.

Nothing wrong with that, as a lot of sports figures get a thrill out of attention-seeking, Roddick or Nadal comes to mind, in championship tennis.




nah i dont think hes an attention seeker man hes like that to everyone, its just him, hes pretty nice when he is tho

I've uploaded clips of the match between the Jiangsu players and Alvin Lau/Toby Ng on YouTube. I had to split the file into 2 parts because YouTube requires the files to be 100MB/10 mins. max.

For the first set, no problem.

For the second set, I had to edit the clip to remove a lot of in-between-points stuff e.g. walking around, picking up the shuttle, setting, etc. so I could make it fit. That makes for less "flow" when viewing; sorry!

Links to the 2 files:

Set 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIVZ1c84fOY
Set 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uaDsqJ9MGA

-j

I've uploaded clips of the match between the Jiangsu players and Alvin Lau/Toby Ng on YouTube. I had to split the file into 2 parts because YouTube requires the files to be 100MB/10 mins. max.


Still eagerly waiting for it to process:)

Thank you so much for this!! I'm definitely going to share it with all my CWG folk, heh.

I've uploaded clips of the match between the Jiangsu players and Alvin Lau/Toby Ng on YouTube. I had to split the file into 2 parts because YouTube requires the files to be 100MB/10 mins. max.

For the first set, no problem.

For the second set, I had to edit the clip to remove a lot of in-between-points stuff e.g. walking around, picking up the shuttle, setting, etc. so I could make it fit. That makes for less "flow" when viewing; sorry!

Links to the 2 files:

Set 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIVZ1c84fOY
Set 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uaDsqJ9MGA

-j

The links don't work!!Can you fix them?

The links don't work!!Can you fix them?

Doesn't* sorry I did a typo

I really want to watch it but your url just doesn't work..

The first part is fine. The second part is still loading up.

-dave

Hmm...

There seem to be problems viewing the clips? :D

OK, try these:

Set 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIVZ1c84fOY
Set 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uaDsqJ9MGA

Hope they work this time!

Tried viewing from my brother's (wood_22_chuck) place, and the first set worked fine, but the second set didn't load.

Anyway, let me know if there's still a problem with these links.

-j

Thanks very much!! They work now!!

Mixed Double
Pair 1: Derrick Ng and Charmain versus DoublesLeftHanded and GracefulSmileLady
Pair 2: Toby Ng and Crystal versus SpringyShort and SinglesLady

How to analyse this? Okay the positives. Derrick and Charmain work well together and cover loose spot and out-of-position situation by rotating seamlessly.

I think madbad said it best, that these matches are won on the strengths of the lady players.

The BC Team lady players are not on par with the Jiangsu Team Lady players. What is severely lacking on the BC Team side is their inability to get themselves out of trouble when taken out of position. More definitively, the lady players absolutely have to be able to receive smashes from the likes of Toby or Alvin. Never mind if on the run, but if feet are planted, must have the ability block or hit a good quality return to retain or regain the front-back formation.

Both ladies did not have this ability, with predictable results.

Badrad’s going to kill me next time I see him. Wait, the whole badrad clan is going to kill me. Not to mention the badelbow clan.

Same disclaimer apply.[/quote]

The Bad Clans' team won one game!!:D

I've uploaded clips of the match between the Jiangsu players and Alvin Lau/Toby Ng on YouTube. I had to split the file into 2 parts because YouTube requires the files to be 100MB/10 mins. max.

-j
Thank you very much. Do you happen to have the Men Single? The one that told by Dave? (Richard vs SpringyShort). I am very interested to watch how the SpringyShort did his power smash. It doesn't have to be the whole match, only the first few will do.

Do you happen to have the Men Single?

No I don't, sorry... :(

After watching the matches at RPro the night before, our intention was to catch only the men's doubles on tape (since we happen to play doubles, too, we wanted something for our own game). We didn't really thing we were going to be witness to anything special, particularly after Richard and Tim beat the Jiangsu singles players at RPro.

By the time we realized just what we were seeing, we were both totally caught up in the game, and didn't think to pull out the camcorder.

Our loss...:crying:

Also, sorry we couldn't fit in the entire court in the clip; we just have an entry-level camcorder we got for badminton, so we didn't splurge on something with a lot of features. Anyway, hope the clips of the doubles were OK for those of you that viewed it.

-j

Also, sorry we couldn't fit in the entire court in the clip;

-j
:( Alas, I was hoping to watch their (the Jiangsu players) smashes on the side of the camera.

:( Alas, I was hoping to watch their (the Jiangsu players) smashes on the side of the camera.

"Alas"? Hmm...

Well, verily I am sorry I could not accomodate thy request! :D

I'll post a snippet (when I have some {ha ha} time) of the last part of the 2nd men's doubles for that night (you can kinda see it in the background of the 1st doubles match) between Chris Lee/Kyle Holoboff and another Jiangsu pair.

Alas, that clip is just minutes long... :p

-j

Thanks :D.

- T.

As promised, a short clip of the 2nd men's double's match between Chris Lee/Kyle Holoboff and the Jiangsu team:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_yDAoU05ao

Enjoy!

-j