I saw this in the media. What do you guys think are the true reasons why TH does not like LD?

http://image2.sina.com.cn/ty/doha2006/o/2006-12-01/U370P6T12D2600426F44DT20061201183021.jpg

hmm.. no comment about this... although LD seldom smiles...

The article cuts off at "daughter of the...". Do you have the rest?

To allow us to verify the authenticity, please refer to this thread post he source and date (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12555)

If this is true, I'll have to chuckle a bit, it's like the pot calling the kettle... :p

LD is really bad, even bad boy taufik say he's bad LOL

seriously, how does not talking you other players make one bad? What if LD is lousy in english and other foreign languages and nothing to talk about? I wish detractors of LD give specifics instead of just saying he's not nice or he's arrogant. In taufik case, we got specifics, he beat up fans, he walk out on match, he has conflict (blackmail) with pbsi and coaches, gets into brawl with locals, etc

I think going public saying this or that person is not nice and without giving specifics is he himself arrogant

So according to Taufik, and some BC forum's members here... you are considered arrogant if,

1. You don't talk to others.:eek:
2. You hardly smile.:mad:
3. You are world #1 in badminton.:p

I think LD only gets prize money for winning tournaments, and earn sponsor money for being a great player... does he ever get paid for talking and smiling to others as a professional? I don't think so.:confused:

Do all of us talk and smile to everyone we know? Probably not all the time, so does that mean we all are arrogant???:rolleyes:

More importantly, I doubt that LD really likes TH's attitude either... but I guess it changes a bit now since LD knows he has a good chance of beating TH these days.

Taufik becomes more and more ridiculous. I used to respect him as a great badminton player, now my respect for him becomes less and less. Too much trashing talking. Prove yourself on the court!

Taufik becomes more and more ridiculous. I used to respect him as a great badminton player, now my respect for him becomes less and less. Too much trashing talking. Prove yourself on the court!

That's the problem, he can't do it anymore. At least not like he used to. :p

That's the problem, he can't do it anymore. At least not like he used to. :pYes, i bet TH is experiencing pressure from home crowd for his recent non-performance. Since he can't beat LD on court, he's doing it off-court. Who stressed out now?

Yes, i bet TH is experiencing pressure from home crowd for his recent non-performance. Since he can't beat LD on court, he's doing it off-court. Who stressed out now?

Oh yeah, I forgot to say, assuming this is true, to TH:

"Boo-hoo, cry me a river." :p :D :D :D

Isny Taufik great for badminton? All the controversy, attention, coverage?

And now....all I want to see is a Taufik/Lin Dan match.

Love or hate the guy, he has done a lot for badminton on and off the court

Lin headlines imposing China at badminton
(AP)
Updated: 2006-12-01 19:57

DOHA, Qatar - World No.1 Lin Dan of China and Olympic champion Taufik Hidayat headline an Asian Games men's badminton tournament that promises to rival any world championship.

Badminton powerhouses China, Indonesia, Malaysia, South Korea, Hong Kong and Thailand are all fielding strong teams in the six events starting Sunday.

Lin, who won the world title at September's world championships in Madrid, is the favorite for the men's singles title, along with countryman and Madrid silver medalist Bao Chunlai.

Defending Asian Games champion Hidayat, although currently ranked 12th in the world, could also threaten for the gold.

Malaysia's world No. 2 Lee Chong Wei will look to make up for a disappointing world championship, in which he was knocked out in the quarterfinals by Bao.

Hidayat, 25, said this might be his final Asian Games.

"I won the gold medal at Busan, and I hope to win it at these Asian Games," said Hidayat. "This will be my last Asian Games for me, I'm getting too old."

Hidayat had a celebrated run-in with Lin in Hong Kong this year, and doesn't think much of his rival.

Hidayat stomped off the court at 4-1 down in the first game of his match with Lin after disputing a line call. A week earlier the Indonesian star had been unhappy with line calls at the Korean Open.

"I don't like Lin," Hidayat said at training this week. "I know he's a good player, yes, but he's not nice to other players ... he's arrogant."

China's team has nine shuttlers ranked among the top three in the world and is looking to greatly improve its performance from the 2002 Asian Games in Busan, South Korea, where it claimed just two gold medals - in the women's singles and women's team events.

China's women's singles chances at Doha rest with Olympic gold medalist Zhang Ning and world No. 2 Xie Xingfang, while Hong Kong's Wang Chen, the 2002 bronze medalist, promises a strong challenge.

Doubles world champions Fu Haifeng and Cai Yun of China, who missed the podium at the 2004 Olympics, are considered a strong challenge to win a medal at Doha.

The women's doubles favorites are both from China - Zhang Jiewen and Yang Wei and the team of Gao Ling and Huang Sui. Zhang and Yang won the Olympic gold at Athens and dominated Grand Prix events this year.

China is favorite in both the men's and women's teams event following their wins in the Thomas and Uber Cup competitions, respectively, this year.

The badminton competition will be held at the Aspire Sports Academy. It houses an indoor athletics stadium, a 5,000-seat football stadium, Olympic-sized swimming and diving pools, and seven multipurpose sports halls, one of which will host the badminton on three courts.

The last time I checked, being nice wasn't a pre-requisite for winning championships. I guess that's why both LD and TH have won so many.

darn him!! dont like Lin have to express to the whole word?? so what if he dislike LD.... no one give a ^^^^

The last time I checked, being nice wasn't a pre-requisite for winning championships. I guess that's why both LD and TH have won so many.

Errrr...to my knowledge TH has only won two major tourneys, the WC2005 and the Olympics 2004. LD on the other hand, has won ever major except the Olympics.

Errrr...to my knowledge TH has only won two major tourneys, the WC2005 and the Olympics 2004. LD on the other hand, has won ever major except the Olympics.

Alright, let me rephrase. For "championships", replace with "titles". I meant tournaments in general, not necessarily "majors"

what! :eek: :mad: How could TH say that :crying: :D thanks for the story anyway guys :)

darn him!! dont like Lin have to express to the whole word?? so what if he dislike LD.... no one give a ^^^^

YEAH! :D anyways, lot of people dislike Lin Dan too :crying: :( :p hehe :D

Taufik: Lin Dan arrogant

OLYMPIC champion Taufik Hidayat has launched an extraordinary attack on China’s world No 1 Lin Dan, calling him arrogant and widely disliked by other players.
Taufik, the defending Asian Games champion, also announced that Doha would be his last Asiad.
“I don’t like Lin Dan,” he said here. “He’s just a good player – off the courts I don’t think he’s a good person. Many players don’t like Lin Dan. He’s arrogant and he doesn’t talk to you.
“I know he’s a good player, yes, he’s the world No 1, but he’s not nice to other players.”
Taufik has the reputation of being the bad boy of badminton, with a history of temper tantrums.
But Indonesia’s top player, fettered as a superstar at home and married to a daughter of the chairman of the nation’s sports committee, insists he is misunderstood.
“People keep asking if I’m a bad boy and I say no, I’m not,” the 25-year-old said.
“I think it’s funny – I don’t think I am.”
At the last Asian Games four years ago in Busan, he held up the showpiece team final for two hours, throwing down his racquet and walking off, upset over a line call.
Officials and teammates had to coax him back onto court, before South Korea went on to down the Indonesians.
A Taufik storm threatened again in August in South Korea, when, annoyed by line calls, he considered quitting a match.
He went one step further in Hong Kong a month later, picking up his bags in an apparent protest over the calls and walking out of his quarter-final against Lin Dan after only five points.
He was docked five world rankings as punishment, but remained unrepentant, calling on the sport’s governing body to modernise the game and install cameras to eliminate such controversies.
Taufik has been sidelined with a back injury for much of this year but is again finding his form.
“I won the gold medal at the Busan Games and I hope to win it again at these Asian Games,” said Taufik, the 2005 world champion.
“This will be the last Asian Games for me, I’m getting too old.”
Taufik defeated India’s Anup Sridhar in the first singles match in the men’s team badminton on Thursday, helping Indonesia to a 5-0 win. The men’s singles event begins on Dec 5. – AFP
-http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2006/12/2/sports/16204864&sec=sports

hmmm,I think it's bcoz LD refused to give autograph to TH's wife...haha...

hmmm,I think it's bcoz LD refused to give autograph to TH's wife...haha...

LOL! Good one! :p :D :D

Hey guys,still remember what he did during malaysian open prize ceremony?? He thinks that he's damn good..n no one can beat him..TQ Chong Wei..coz u proved him wrong! I can't accept the way he refused to wear that hat..what's wrong la..say for example China Open prize ceremony and the emperor wanted to give a lousy hat..for sure any player would accept it..to show professionalism..& also to show that they are not arrogant.
So,in conclusion.. LIN DAN is ARROGANT..FULLSTOP!

Hey guys,still remember what he did during malaysian open prize ceremony?? He thinks that he's damn good..n no one can beat him..TQ Chong Wei..coz u proved him wrong! I can't accept the way he refused to wear that hat..what's wrong la..say for example China Open prize ceremony and the emperor wanted to give a lousy hat..for sure any player would accept it..to show professionalism..& also to show that they are not arrogant.
So,in conclusion.. LIN DAN is ARROGANT..FULLSTOP!

i think guy like you explains why there are so many conflicts and wars in certain part of the world. You construe individual rights as insult. You value silly custom and tradition more so than individual freedom and rights, very sad indeed. How does not wearing a stupid hat relates to poor professionalism of the sport badminton? Which IBF rule did LD broke? I say LD showed alot of class by exercising his rights even under pressure.

When the hat was given to LD as a gift, that hat belongs to LD, he can do what he want with it. If that gift come with a condition, like u must wear it, then it is not a gift at all but a trap instead. What if your custom conflicts LD's belief? By not refusing the hat or stomping on the stupid hat, LD showed respect to your custom already. There are lots hats that i refuse to wear. U have alot to learn about the meaning of individual freedom and rights. .


For the city of calgary, we have many dignitaries come to calgary for official visits and our mayor give out white stetson hat, only 50% of receipients wear it during photo ops. We don't make any fuss if they don't wear it.

Some countries hold and protect this freedom and rights so dearly such that they are willing to spend billion of $ and sacrifice thousands of lives to send our dear ones to suppressed countries in hope they learn this basic concept. My advice to you, grow up and join the 21th century.

i think guy like you explains why there are so many conflicts and wars in certain part of the world. You construe individual rights as insult. You value silly custom and tradition more so than individual freedom and rights, very sad indeed. How does not wearing a stupid hat relates to poor professionalism of the sport badminton? Which IBF rule did LD broke? U have alot to learn about the meaning of human value and rights.

When the hat was given to LD as a gift, that hat belongs to LD, he can do what he want with it. If that gift come with a condition, like u must wear it, then it is not a gift at all but a trap instead. What if your custom conflicts LD's belief? By not refusing the hat or stomping on the stupid hat, LD showed respect to your custom already. There are lots hats that i refuse to wear.

For the city of calgary, we have many dignitaries come to calgary for official visits and our mayor give out white stetson hat, only 50% of receipients wear it during photo ops. We don't make any fuss if they don't wear it.

My advice to you, grow up and join the 21th century.

Dude, how can u cover like that for him? For that guy has purely show disrespect, ok it may not nessasary intentionally to the country's custom, but he definitely disrespected the organizers and audience! U might laugh at guys like Indra as the blind taufik fan, well, u r no different than him as "the blind LD fan".

Taufik doesnt like LinDan because LinDan is arrogant, maybe Taufik's mindset towards other players are as friends, as you can see him hugging peter gade after matches, thats why he doesnt like LinDan's attitude towards other players

Dude, how can u cover like that for him? For that guy has purely show disrespect, ok it may not nessasary intentionally to the country's custom, but he definitely disrespected the organizers and audience! U might laugh at guys like Indra as the blind taufik fan, well, u r no different than him as "the blind LD fan".

well, about the hat thing it isnt that serious but LinDan kicked his racket and then left without shaking hands with LeeChongWei after losing the malaysia open final shows LinDan's poor attitude,
why i say the hat thing is not serious is because, the hat is a sort of a gift, or a token, although what i feel is that LinDan should at the least wear it until the ceremony ends, maybe he's worried it will mess his hair

Lin Dan and Taufik can discuss the issue in about 40 minutes.

Lin Dan and Taufik can discuss the issue in about 40 minutes.


yeah.... actions speak louder than words!

well, may all enjoy their match

may the better player win although i know both players will want to kick each others ass this time round at DOHAA HEHEHE..

gotta say one thing, "Man, its tough to be world no 1" :p

well, about the hat thing it isnt that serious but LinDan kicked his racket and then left without shaking hands with LeeChongWei after losing the malaysia open final shows LinDan's poor attitude,
why i say the hat thing is not serious is because, the hat is a sort of a gift, or a token, although what i feel is that LinDan should at the least wear it until the ceremony ends, maybe he's worried it will mess his hair

let see who is blind. Your example show how ignorant and false information causes many false conclusion. I watch the 2006 MO MS final 3rd game too.

1. you came around the hat thing after my long explanation.
2. the no shake hand: if u watch the sequence of events right after LCW reached 23-21, LCW knelt down and falls backward in celebrative pose. LCW was on the floor for 16 seconds. If u watched closely, LD approached the net at around the 12th seconds (to shake lcw hands )after LD shakes hands with officials but turned away because he knew LCW isn't getting up. LCW was then helped up by two malaysian team members. LCW then walks about waving to the audience, then shakes hand with umpire and line judge. How can LD shakes LCW's hands when LCW is too busy celebrating? Dont be so blind. Understand the incident first because making accusation.

3. Throwing racket: you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for dirt of LD. For every racket thrown by LD, TH had thrown his rackets multiple of times, often more than slamming it to the floor and breaking the rackets. Oh yea, don't forget all the 'bad' things TH had done listed in my post #6.:rolleyes: Of all the bad things u ignored on TH, u manage to list one tossing racket incident by LD. U are really desperate for LD dirt are you?

yeah.... actions speak louder than words!

well, may all enjoy their match

may the better player win although i know both players will want to kick each others ass this time round at DOHAA HEHEHE..

gotta say one thing, "Man, its tough to be world no 1" :p
no kidding, when ur on top, everybody want to bring u down.

Errrr...to my knowledge TH has only won two major tourneys, the WC2005 and the Olympics 2004. LD on the other hand, has won ever major except the Olympics.
dink! TH has won every major tourney except the AE open... lin dan still has to win the olympics... if TH wins the AE next year, he will complete it before LD...:p the amazing race..lol

Taufik doesnt like LinDan because LinDan is arrogant, maybe Taufik's mindset towards other players are as friends, as you can see him hugging peter gade after matches, thats why he doesnt like LinDan's attitude towards other players

i only see taufik hug gade ang LCW after a tough match.. but i don't see him even happy when he beat LD or having been beaten by LD...

i think TH just don't like LD's serious personality..:p

i only see taufik hug gade ang LCW after a tough match.. but i don't see him even happy when he beat LD or having been beaten by LD...

i think TH just don't like LD's serious personality..:p
maybe LD just don't like hugging guys:rolleyes:
U can't really fault a guy for that.

haha... and you mean PG and LCW liked to be hugged?.. kidding..

maybe LD just don't like hugging guys:rolleyes:
U can't really fault a guy for that. lindan only like hug xxf :D :D :D

lindan only like hug xxf :D :D :D
LOL, me too :D J/K but LD would make me hugs TH:eek:

darn him!! dont like Lin have to express to the whole word?? so what if he dislike LD.... no one give a ^^^^
I know exactly why TH make those statement publicly. He did it for a reason.

Lin Dan and Taufik can discuss the issue in about 40 minutes.no badminton on streaming telecast:(

desperate man in desperate time resorting to desperate measure.
TH make those public accusation now, to rattle LD nerves. It's a dirty trick but this is his last best chance to win, nothing to lose by sinking to new low now. He knows LD weakest skill is his mental strength and TH wants an early edge on LD, working on LD mental side off court first.

HAhahaha, serve Lin Dan right!!!!
I bet all Malaysians could not 4get wat lin dan has done to our country during Malaysia Open. He was angry bcuz he lost to chong wei n refuse to accept the survenir. Plus, he threw the mock cheque on the floor n tossed his racquet to the ceiling, nearly hit a light!!!!
How can such player gain respects from other players!!!!
Lin Dan is bull ****!!!!

i think guy like you explains why there are so many conflicts and wars in certain part of the world. You construe individual rights as insult. You value silly custom and tradition more so than individual freedom and rights, very sad indeed. How does not wearing a stupid hat relates to poor professionalism of the sport badminton? Which IBF rule did LD broke? I say LD showed alot of class by exercising his rights even under pressure.

When the hat was given to LD as a gift, that hat belongs to LD, he can do what he want with it. If that gift come with a condition, like u must wear it, then it is not a gift at all but a trap instead. What if your custom conflicts LD's belief? By not refusing the hat or stomping on the stupid hat, LD showed respect to your custom already. There are lots hats that i refuse to wear. U have alot to learn about the meaning of individual freedom and rights. .

For the city of calgary, we have many dignitaries come to calgary for official visits and our mayor give out white stetson hat, only 50% of receipients wear it during photo ops. We don't make any fuss if they don't wear it.

Some countries hold and protect this freedom and rights so dearly such that they are willing to spend billion of $ and sacrifice thousands of lives to send our dear ones to suppressed countries in hope they learn this basic concept. My advice to you, grow up and join the 21th century.
Bull ****!!! Lin Dan doesnt respect our culture!!! That insulting us!!!
After that scene every player gave a "thumbs up" sign after recieveing the hat, i think Lin Dan shud be very ashame at that time, cuz it's very insulting. Serve him right!!!! He deserves it.....

Taufik doesnt like LinDan because LinDan is arrogant, maybe Taufik's mindset towards other players are as friends, as you can see him hugging peter gade after matches, thats why he doesnt like LinDan's attitude towards other players

Naw, TH doesn't like LD because LD beat TH more times than anyone, especially recently. :p

If LD would continue to lose to TH, I'm sure LD would be TH's best friend. :D

surprising that TH's stamina is still holding

19-16 LD, finally TH stamina is waning

20-16.............. Ld

WOOHOO
21-16. for LD

way to go LD, XXF will be very happy indeed.

congratulate to TH for playing badminton for all 3 sets.

must be great match to watch but no streaming :(

If it is confined to a one-to-one dislike of each other it is fair and square. But to say that other players don't like LD is actually very telling. Taufik is not matured enough, he also feels insecure, and has an inferiority complex-by not being able to stand up to LD alone and having to get reinforcement from "other players".

I guess TH will dislike LD even more now... :p

LD was in control and wrote the script on the whole 3 sets.

Nvm, I still like taufik .....

Nvm, I still like taufik .....
hmmm, TH lost, it's Nvm. If LD lost, LD is arrogant.

LD was in control and wrote the script on the whole 3 sets.

the counterpart of indra??? lol
anyway, where's indra?! :p

...some countries..spend billions of $ and sacrifice ..lives to protect this ..freedom.. Sorry, Cooler, don't be naive, US is fighting to protect the oil reserves in Iraq, not freedom.. If US were concerned about freedom, they would have gone to East Timor... alas ..there's no oil worth fighting for...

...some countries..spend billions of $ and sacrifice ..lives to protect this ..freedom.. Sorry, Cooler, don't be naive, US is fighting to protect the oil reserves in Iraq, not freedom.. If US were concerned about freedom, they would have gone to East Timor... alas ..there's no oil worth fighting for...

LOL, i SPECIFICALLY didnt name the countries involved, on purpose. LOL.
Obviously, u didnt caught on which countries i was referring to.

Hint: if u look on the left, under Cooler.

hmmm, TH lost, it's Nvm. If LD lost, LD is arrogant.

Lin Dan is always arrogant.........
nvr like him....... \
honestly, i already hated him whn i 1st saw him playing...
maybe his looks makes ppl hate him

LOL, i SPECIFICALLY didnt name the countries involved, on purpose. LOL.
Obviously, u didnt caught on which countries i was referring to.

Hint: if u look on the left, under Cooler.

Didn't know Canada spend billions$ and sacrificed so many lives....sorry..you guys are not getting recognition for this, quite unfair, isn't it?

this is badminton central, dont talk about oil and all that la pls.

this is badminton central, dont talk about oil and all that la pls.
Our friend preached about rights and freedom so need to come in and give another perspective. It's ok if you don't understand and you are just happy to not want to know much beyond Spore.

stilll.... now TH can really keep his mouth shut! who cares he dislike LD...

good lord...what si this turning out to?
1) TH did was eh always does: draw attention
2) TH lost, LD won...what's there to argue?
3) for god's sake, it's 6 months ago, and it was a hat, that's all...

Though I can't say I would've done the same thing as LD at the MO, but he was bummed, and he still apologised afterwards

good lord...what si this turning out to?
1) TH did was eh always does: draw attention
2) TH lost, LD won...what's there to argue?
3) for god's sake, it's 6 months ago, and it was a hat, that's all...

Though I can't say I would've done the same thing as LD at the MO, but he was bummed, and he still apologised afterwards

Apologised? Hmm....did he? :rolleyes:

Apologised? Hmm....did he? :rolleyes:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34064&highlight=LD+MO

in short: yes he did

:p :D and stop talking like Yoda;)

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34064&highlight=LD+MO

in short: yes he did

:p :D and stop talking like Yoda;)

Haha Yoda talks like that? Im no Starwar's fan.... :D
Well, apologise accepted. Its not our intention keep picking at LD like that, some some LD fans who give silly excuses for that just pure ridiculous... :o

Haha Yoda talks like that? Im no Starwar's fan.... :D
Well, apologise accepted. Its not our intention keep picking at LD like that, some some LD fans who give silly excuses for that just pure ridiculous... :o
nahh, you don't talk like yoda that much.. I read "apologise? did he?" as "apologise he did"? wich sounds like yoda...my bad..

though thread liek this, and the LD-regrets-thread I posted all have a tendancy to last longer than they should..this thread should've long died after page 2:rolleyes:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34064&highlight=LD+MO

in short: yes he did

:p :D and stop talking like Yoda;)

actually he can use it both ways "did he" or "he did" both same and correct:)
well.....found out that many ppl dislike LD here.....actually I myself also dislike him for some reason but I don't hate him

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34064&highlight=LD+MO

in short: yes he did

:p :D and stop talking like Yoda;)

Just saw the thread for the first time...must have been away. LD regretted not taking the match and apologised to his Fans but he did NOT apologise to the Organisers. That's clear, so let's move on.

Just saw the thread for the first time...must have been away. LD regretted not taking the match and apologised to his Fans but he did NOT apologise to the Organisers. That's clear, so let's move on.
since I can't read the original message i'll just quote the translation from page 1

"Lindan say he blame himself for not taking the opportunity to win. He regrets that he didnt control his emotion. HE'S REGRETFUL AND HE'LL NEVER BEHAVE LIKE THAT AGAIN.

Then the friend said, he's been watching LD going though downturns. It's not easy for a 23 years old. He thanks the fans for being there to support and encourage him which he feel touched by it. Hope he can do better next time."

he apologises in general, no towards his fans...btu we're really nitpicking now..

since I can't read the original message i'll just quote the translation from page 1

"Lindan say he blame himself for not taking the opportunity to win. He regrets that he didnt control his emotion. HE'S REGRETFUL AND HE'LL NEVER BEHAVE LIKE THAT AGAIN.

Then the friend said, he's been watching LD going though downturns. It's not easy for a 23 years old. He thanks the fans for being there to support and encourage him which he feel touched by it. Hope he can do better next time."

he apologises in general, no towards his fans...btu we're really nitpicking now..

it's ok. To each his own, so let's move on.

sports people are not celebrities though they receive much media attention, they might not know how to respond to the media

read this article today in the New Straits Times today.... and i've just lost all respect for Taufik...

Heck, do we REALLY know that Lin Dan is arrogant? according to what i've observed and read all this while, Taufik is the arrogant one... hah... Lin Dan even can entertain to take a pic with a guy i know, but not Taufik... Hah...

Phah! How ironic!

From what we can see, Taufik is actually the arrogant one, shooting his mouth like a machine gun. Talk talk talk...

So according to him Lin Dan doesn't talk to other players? Then why didn't Taufik use Mandarin to talk to Chinese players? Because he doesn't know Mandarin? So he expects Lin Dan to know english?

I don't know the actual truth. But I remember the story where Lin Dan took the effort to entertain a kid fan in England, stopped for photograph in the middle of his morning jogging session (people usually choose not to stop while jogging, especially professional athletes), and gave the boy his t-shirt and racquet. And that's how Lin Dan treated a complete stranger boy.

To me, it seems a little far fetched that Lin Dan doesn't talk to other players (except Taufik). I can imagine this:

"Taufik think to himself in his monkey brain: Hmm... Lin Dan doesn't talk to me, so that means he doesn't talk to other players. "

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34064&highlight=LD+MO

in short: yes he did

:p :D and stop talking like Yoda;)

Hey, Master Yoda taught NGP everything he knows. :p

let see who is blind. Your example show how ignorant and false information causes many false conclusion. I watch the 2006 MO MS final 3rd game too.

1. you came around the hat thing after my long explanation.
2. the no shake hand: if u watch the sequence of events right after LCW reached 23-21, LCW knelt down and falls backward in celebrative pose. LCW was on the floor for 16 seconds. If u watched closely, LD approached the net at around the 12th seconds (to shake lcw hands )after LD shakes hands with officials but turned away because he knew LCW isn't getting up. LCW was then helped up by two malaysian team members. LCW then walks about waving to the audience, then shakes hand with umpire and line judge. How can LD shakes LCW's hands when LCW is too busy celebrating? Dont be so blind. Understand the incident first because making accusation.

3. Throwing racket: you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for dirt of LD. For every racket thrown by LD, TH had thrown his rackets multiple of times, often more than slamming it to the floor and breaking the rackets. Oh yea, don't forget all the 'bad' things TH had done listed in my post #6.:rolleyes: Of all the bad things u ignored on TH, u manage to list one tossing racket incident by LD. U are really desperate for LD dirt are you?

i havent watched alot of matches so from what i've seen so far is LinDan's bad behavior, maybe you can upload some of the matches with taufik's bad behavior too

people are being harsh towards taufik, me thinks. the guy doesn't like lin dan and i doubt lin dan likes taufik either. media has a way to blow things out of propotions. i doubt taufik exactly said all those, he was most prolly misquoted. english is not his native language. even if he did, i do not see anything wrong. both he and lin dan do have that arrogant personality.

so yeah, it's like pot calling the kettle black.

Oh yeah, I forgot to say, assuming this is true, to TH:

"Boo-hoo, cry me a river." :p :D :D :D


lol Let's decidate "Cry Me A River - Justin Timberlake" to TH. :cool: :cool:

the counterpart of indra??? lol
anyway, where's indra?! :p
he's prolly still sleeping, dreaming of the minimum 4 golds:D

i havent watched alot of matches so from what i've seen so far is LinDan's bad behavior, maybe you can upload some of the matches with taufik's bad behavior too
I thot you're a TH fan. Shouldn't you know all this more so than me?
TH bad behavior? too numerous to listed. Go search for them in BF. Many were illustrated already.

cooler!!! exactly! haha... but as usual... some TH's fans are blindfolded with what their favourite bad attitude....so either they do not know much or ignored to the fact!! wakakka

TH is the greatest thing since sliced bread. :D

Well.. I think from TH has become one of the greatest players in Indo to the one of the greatest trash talker in the game.

Lin Dan is always arrogant.........
nvr like him....... \
honestly, i already hated him whn i 1st saw him playing...
maybe his looks makes ppl hate him

I hope you are one handsome/pretty little fellow...:rolleyes:

he's prolly still sleeping, dreaming of the minimum 4 golds:D
Indra will be back about 2 weeks before the All-England next year.:D:D:D:p To give us some more predictions... kinda like TH vs Simon in the finals, and this time TH will win his first All-England title and complete his collection.

I like to say thanks to the mods for not closing this thread. We all have our differences but I've enjoyed the rubbings with other fans, for or against TH or LD. I say you all behaved as best as one could be under many heated moments.

Girlfriend Xingfang leaps to defence of Super Dan

DOHA: Badminton world champion Xie Xingfang leapt to the defence of her boyfriend Lin Dan (pic) yesterday after he was accused of being arrogant and widely disliked, calling his accuser Taufik Hidayat “cold”.
The 25-year-old was replying to an extraordinary personal attack on world No.1 Lin, known as “Super Dan”, by Indonesia's Olympic champion Taufik.
Taufik, who has a reputation as the 'bad boy' of badminton, on Friday slammed Lin as arrogant and said he was widely disliked by other players.
Xie had an equally hard-hitting response.
“If we're talking about arrogance and cold personality then I definitely think that Taufik is worse than Lin Dan,” said Xie.
Xie also blasted Taufik's temperament which has seen him walk off court before, as in Hong Kong in September when he picked up his bags and stormed out of his quarter-final against Lin after only five points.
“Lin Dan wouldn't just give up a match like Taufik. That is rude to the spectators and rude to fans,” said Xie
Xie, whose love tryst with Lin has led to comparisons with football glamour couple Victoria and David Beckham had been stung into action by Taufik's astonishing tirade.
“I don't like Lin,” said Taufik, who is the defending Asian Games champion.
“He's just a good player – off the courts I don't think he's a good person. Many players don't like Lin Dan. He's arrogant and he doesn't talk to you.
“I know he's a good player, yes, he's the world No.1, but he's not nice to other players,” added Taufik, who is playing his last Asian Games.
Lin later downed Taufik 2-1 as China went on to win the clash 3-1 in the men's team competition in front of a noisy Indonesian crowd.
After the match, Lin cooled on his previous outburst, saying he was too busy concentrating on his game to worry about his opponent.
“Everybody has a different personality,” he said of Taufik. “Outside of the court doesn't really concern me, and I don't want to be distracted by things like that.”
Xie was also in feisty form over why she was nicknamed “Beauty”.
“If you play well, people will think you are pretty. If you don't play well, people don't think that,” she said.
Xie was speaking after leading China to a 5-0 cleansweep over Indonesia in their group team match at the Asian Games.
Xie beat her opponent Adriyanti Firdasari 21-13, 21-13 and indicated she still had plenty in reserve.
“I haven't woken up yet. I am still half asleep.” – AFP

the counterpart of indra??? lol
anyway, where's indra?!
he's prolly still sleeping, dreaming of the minimum 4 golds:D
...he's off for the weekend & will be back on Monday/Tuesday next week, just like his Taufik...he's saving up for another round of "Taufik-hype-it-up-talk machine"..hehe:rolleyes: :D :p ;)

I think LD and TH have different types of bad behaviors. TH is self-centered but is in fact quite nice to fellow players. As far as I know (according to media coverage -- so may not be true), PG, WCH and LCW are all friends of TH. On the other hand, LD is also self-centered, although he is good and responsible as a player, he seems to be arrogant to fellow (non-Chinese) players. I think there were news about PG and LCW do not like LD.

So seems there is nothing wrong in TH's comments.

I thot you're a TH fan. Shouldn't you know all this more so than me?
TH bad behavior? too numerous to listed. Go search for them in BF. Many were illustrated already.

Girlfriend Xingfang leaps to defence of Super Dan

DOHA: – AFPLin later downed Taufik 2-1 as China went on to win the clash 3-1 in the men's team competition in front of a noisy Indonesian crowd.
After the match, Lin cooled on his previous outburst, saying he was too busy concentrating on his game to worry about his opponent.
“Everybody has a different personality,” he said of Taufik. “Outside of the court doesn't really concern me, and I don't want to be distracted by things like that.”

I like to say thanks to the mods for not closing this thread. We all have our differences but I've enjoyed the rubbings with other fans, for or against TH or LD. I say you all behaved as best as one could be under many heated moments.

lol, hmm wonder what other players think of each other

I think LD and TH have different types of bad behaviors. TH is self-centered but is in fact quite nice to fellow players. As far as I know (according to media coverage -- so may not be true), PG, WCH and LCW are all friends of TH. On the other hand, LD is also self-centered, although he is good and responsible as a player, he seems to be arrogant to fellow (non-Chinese) players. I think there were news about PG and LCW do not like LD.

So seems there is nothing wrong in TH's comments.

I think there are HUGE misunderstanding between Chinese players and players from other English speaking countries. The problem here is NOT personality, but LANGUAGEs, they cannot communicate each other. I read that Kenneth once said, that Chinese players seemed dumb to him, because when he spoke to them, they never response. I also read from Chen Yu that Kenneth was unfriendly, because when he (Chen Yu) approached Kenneth and told him a joke in English, but Kenneth looks stern and even not gave him an eye contact. I think the reason here could be either Chen Yu's English is so poor, or there is huge culture difference for them to understand each other.

Same thing happened between Korean players and other countries, Because Chinese players, Korean players are not good in English. While Indian players, Indonesia players, Malaysian players, and Danes are all good at English. Second reason is that India, Indonesia, Malaysia were ruled by western counties, while China is always an independent country, and Korea was controlled by Japan for a while, so people in Mas, Ind, Ina can understand western culture, but Chn, Kor cannot.

So if you insist this is personality, then it is the whole nation's personality. Look at all the international events, there are always bigger barrier between Chinese and western people than the barrier between MAS, INA, IND and western.

I think LD and TH have different types of bad behaviors. TH is self-centered but is in fact quite nice to fellow players. As far as I know (according to media coverage -- so may not be true), PG, WCH and LCW are all friends of TH. On the other hand, LD is also self-centered, although he is good and responsible as a player, he seems to be arrogant to fellow (non-Chinese) players. I think there were news about PG and LCW do not like LD.

So seems there is nothing wrong in TH's comments.

Agree. But there's no need to depend on media info (or misinfo). Just observe their body language on court. If there were a survey among players , I wouldn't be surprised if TH came out tops as most popular and LD least because most (maybe all? ) of TH.'s tantrums were directed at umpires,at his own expense, and his on court attitude towards his opponents have always been first class. Never need to use non-badminton tactics like BCL conning a simple umpire or LD trying to tweak shuttles in WC....In fact KJ showed contempt for LD after HKO. That's probably the worst treatment one can get from a fellow player.
But does it matter? LD has XXF,the most important friend and that is enough.

this is a sport. it doesn't matter if anybody likes u. and sportsmanship? lin dan has good sportsmanship, he just screwed up once, and then he apologised for it. he shouldn't take what taufik said seriously, it's a load of crap. mental toughness is just as big of a factor as physical skill in all sports.

take a look at hockey for example...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=P--XvUrPrlk

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xjYa-gPOFBQ

this is a sport. it doesn't matter if anybody likes u. and sportsmanship? lin dan has good sportsmanship, he just screwed up once, and then he apologised for it. he shouldn't take what taufik said seriously, it's a load of crap. mental toughness is just as big of a factor as physical skill in all sports.

take a look at hockey for example...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=P--XvUrPrlk

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xjYa-gPOFBQ

I agree with you totally :D :p thanks for the links :eek: :)

Agree. But there's no need to depend on media info (or misinfo). Just observe their body language on court. If there were a survey among players , I wouldn't be surprised if TH came out tops as most popular and LD least because most (maybe all? ) of TH.'s tantrums were directed at umpires,at his own expense, and his on court attitude towards his opponents have always been first class. Never need to use non-badminton tactics like BCL conning a simple umpire or LD trying to tweak shuttles in WC....In fact KJ showed contempt for LD after HKO. That's probably the worst treatment one can get from a fellow player.
But does it matter? LD has XXF,the most important friend and that is enough.

This **** is really ****ing weak. Are you trying to say all the umpires are blind to the fouls of the badminton players? How come no one but you can see it? Have you been taking your medication lately? You are just a ****ed up moron who cannot stand the Chinese player's success.

TH doesn't have to resort to non-badminton tactics to win games? Gee, I wonder who was the one that "convinced" the linesman in Indo-open a few years ago to change the ruling of rally against Bao in TH's favor?

TH and Indonesian badminton players have traditionally been sour losers. TH may be a good badminton player, but he's really a sorry ass human being. TH shows no respect to the umpire and the audience by throwing ****ing childish tantrum wherever the **** he goes and walking out of matches that he knows that he cannot win. He doesn't have the respect for the sport or the people watching it. If IBF had any backbone, TH would've been kicked out a long time ago.

pjswift, I know you are just a pathetic loser trying to bash the Chinese players. If you are a singaporian, you better tell your national team to stop stealing the Chinese provicincal players and find your own talents ... oh wait, you country doesn't have any. :rolleyes:

This **** is really ****ing weak. Are you trying to say all the umpires are blind to the fouls of the badminton players? How come no one but you can see it? Have you been taking your medication lately? You are just a ****ed up moron who cannot stand the Chinese player's success.

TH doesn't have to resort to non-badminton tactics to win games? Gee, I wonder who was the one that "convinced" the linesman in Indo-open a few years ago to change the ruling of rally against Bao in TH's favor?

TH and Indonesian badminton players have traditionally been sour losers. TH may be a good badminton player, but he's really a sorry ass human being. TH shows no respect to the umpire and the audience by throwing ****ing childish tantrum wherever the **** he goes and walking out of matches that he knows that he cannot win. He doesn't have the respect for the sport or the people watching it. If IBF had any backbone, TH would've been kicked out a long time ago.

pjswift, I know you are just a pathetic loser trying to bash the Chinese players. If you are a singaporian, you better tell your national team to stop stealing the Chinese provicincal players and find your own talents ... oh wait, you country doesn't have any. :rolleyes:

Singapore has Kendrick Lee... and they are very proud to have him even though he has yet crack into the elite group.

newplayer,
if I where you I'd edit my post while I still can...that wasn't needed.

(putting aside the fact I completly agree with you on the taufik-part)

tell that to the singaporean table tennis team.......i think 90 or 80 % of'em are chinese

newplayer,
if I where you I'd edit my post while I still can...that wasn't needed.

(putting aside the fact I completly agree with you on the taufik-part)

Honestly, I don't give a **** if I get banned. What's happened here is that a troll who calls himself pjswift has been coming here for the sole purpose of bashing the Chinese team, and the mod hasn't done anything about it and nobody else seems to care. I've been reading these threads and hoping someone would say something to stop this moron, but I've only seen other people cheering him on. Now if I got banned because I gave him a taste of his own medicine, then this would not be a forum that I want to be a member of.

Hi ccskaki,

Actually, you are a Arrogant one. You talk this forum about someone, It means you are arrogant.

And player talk to player with different country must use english.

All China Player can't speak english... Only Mandarin... It is real...

Some Of indonesia Player can speak english....Taufik said: Lin Dan Orragant because his action...Nothing to do the langguange....

Don't bring to this forum the fanatisme...OK..... So Better You check your Own country Singapore..... Now All Singapore players from Import (Indonesia and China)... and never win the compatations...always loss...so If you are from singapore ok... Don't praud...

Taufik think to himself in his monkey brain..... This statement is stupid comment. It means: This people (ccskaki) is stupid....HHHAAAaaa..

Later on... Be Carefull to talk to this forum....OK... Remember that..

Phah! How ironic!

From what we can see, Taufik is actually the arrogant one, shooting his mouth like a machine gun. Talk talk talk...

So according to him Lin Dan doesn't talk to other players? Then why didn't Taufik use Mandarin to talk to Chinese players? Because he doesn't know Mandarin? So he expects Lin Dan to know english?

I don't know the actual truth. But I remember the story where Lin Dan took the effort to entertain a kid fan in England, stopped for photograph in the middle of his morning jogging session (people usually choose not to stop while jogging, especially professional athletes), and gave the boy his t-shirt and racquet. And that's how Lin Dan treated a complete stranger boy.

To me, it seems a little far fetched that Lin Dan doesn't talk to other players (except Taufik). I can imagine this:

"Taufik think to himself in his monkey brain: Hmm... Lin Dan doesn't talk to me, so that means he doesn't talk to other players. "

This **** is really ****ing weak. Are you trying to say all the umpires are blind to the fouls of the badminton players? How come no one but you can see it? Have you been taking your medication lately? You are just a ****ed up moron who cannot stand the Chinese player's success.

TH doesn't have to resort to non-badminton tactics to win games? Gee, I wonder who was the one that "convinced" the linesman in Indo-open a few years ago to change the ruling of rally against Bao in TH's favor?

TH and Indonesian badminton players have traditionally been sour losers. TH may be a good badminton player, but he's really a sorry ass human being. TH shows no respect to the umpire and the audience by throwing ****ing childish tantrum wherever the **** he goes and walking out of matches that he knows that he cannot win. He doesn't have the respect for the sport or the people watching it. If IBF had any backbone, TH would've been kicked out a long time ago.

pjswift, I know you are just a pathetic loser trying to bash the Chinese players. If you are a singaporian, you better tell your national team to stop stealing the Chinese provicincal players and find your own talents ... oh wait, you country doesn't have any. :rolleyes:

Excuse me? Who's the childish one here? I don't see how you can swear your head off and then accuse TH of having "childish tantrums". Sure he may have the odd tantrum, but having one yourself isn't going to back up your point. You also accuse pjswift of "bashing the Chinese team" when here you are bashing both TH and him. Accept that people's opinions may differ to yours and please don't bring such aggression into this forum.

Excuse me? Who's the childish one here? I don't see how you can swear your head off and then accuse TH of having "childish tantrums".


I don't know which planet you come from, but on earth, all adults swear when they get pissed off, no matter who they are and what kind of social status they have. So, don't give me that "you swore therefore you are childish" rubbish -- there is no logic in it.


Sure he may have the odd tantrum, but having one yourself isn't going to back up your point. You also accuse pjswift of "bashing the Chinese team" when here you are bashing both TH and him.

Did I really bash TH and the Indonesian team? Did I say anything that was untrue? Did I fabricate any rubbish that didn't happen for the sole purpose of bashing TH? I called pjswift out for bashing the Chinese team because he purposefulyl fabricated lies for the sole purpose of bashing the Chinese team, if you cannot see that, you are blind.


Accept that people's opinions may differ to yours and please don't bring such aggression into this forum.

Too late, don't start any trouble if you cannot handle any. Don't pretend to be on some moral high ground, why are you trying to criticise my truthful outbust while giving pjswift a free pass to fabricate lies to bash the Chinese team? I sense some hypocrisy here.