AG2006 Team Events - Dec 4, 06 (Semifinal)

[DoublesPlayer]

Women's Team Semi-finalMatch WT13
SIN - JPN

The chance is 50 - 50

Women's Team Semi-finalMatch WT14
CHN - KOR

No countries can stop CHN to win Gold, it's almost no contest here, no offense to anyone, it's just a fact

Men's Team Semi-finalMatch MT13
CHN - INA

Would INA be able to deliver and give CHN a good fight, yeah maybe ... CHN has a better chance, but INA could surprise CHN. The key is probably in the first single between Lin Dan and Taufik. CHN - INA: 55 - 45

Men's Team Semi-finalMatch MT14
KOR - MAS

It's another tight match, it's 50 - 50

[Jessica]

Remember to watch the live broadcast from CCTV5 tommorow...Just hope the channel will really broadcast it...Really hope to watch it live...

[sickgal]

okay...may i know the time plz??? according to the time at DOHA! plz...thanks ya

[helloworld]

waiting for a surprise from INA, if china wins, world badminton will be tedious. :(

[z3048018]

don't know why, but i'm sensing an upset between CHN V INA 2-3. MAS should get into the final.

[z3048018]

okay...may i know the time plz??? according to the time at DOHA! plz...thanks ya

the time is 1803 in Doha

[2cents]

the rematch between INA and CHN should be exciting. Taufik, Sony, Luluk, and Alvent all get 32 hours rest, and Simon, Markis, Hendra get 28 hours rest. They also practiced more than China, more familiar with the court, While Bao CL only played 20 minutes. So all the INA players could win the 1st games because those CHN players will have not warmed up yet. But it is difficult to predict the 2nd games.

For Taufik vs Lindan, Taufik will win the 1st game, then the second one is very crucial, if Taufik wins, he of course win the match, if he loses, Lindan will not give him any chance in the 3rd game.

For Simon vs Chen Jin, Simon will win the 1st game, then the second game is very important, if Simon keeps winning, Chen Jin will packed home, if Simon loses, Chen Jin's confidence will boost up, Simon will run out of gas in the 3rd game.

For Sony vs Bao, Sony will win the 1st game, because Bao CL still needs to get used to the court. The 2nd game should belong to Bao, because he holds the all-win records against Sony, then the 3rd game is the time for Sony to make his own history. Anyway, maybe there is no need for this match.

For Markis/Hendra vs Fu/Cai, the INA will win the 1st game because Fu/Cai still enjoying the win last time. If Fu/Cai win the 2nd game, Markis/Hendra still have chance to win in the 3rd game.

For Luluk/Alvent vs Guo/Xie, Luluk/Alvent will win the 1st game, because they find their rhythm gradually, but Guo/Xie are fully energized, they will totally overpower Luluk/Alvent in the next two games.

[DoublesPlayer]

2cents, if all your predictions become reality, it seems like it would be a very tight games because all of them may be decided by the third set ... can't wait to watch the games tomorrow.

The games should start at 17:00 Doha time, which is equal to 14:00 GMT? For sure it's 9:00 AM EST.

So, CCTV5 will be broadcasting, hopefully.

And, we all can watch it on TVANTS ... for those who hasn't installed TVANTS, you can download it from here: http://tvants.en.softonic.com/ie/56473

Try it out first before the games start tomorrow ...

Have fun everyone, and watch in peace ... no fights between fans anymore ... :)

[2cents]

2cents, if all your predictions become reality, it seems like it would be a very tight games because all of them may be decided by the third set ... ...



prediction is just a prediction ;) God may like this way to help Malaysia, I am probably a Malaysian fan ;) Either INA or CHN wins the semi, it must be exhausted to meet Malaysia in the Final.

[Cheung]

This is really an interesting match. Thanks for the analysis 2cents.

Simon's previous win certanly puts a different perspective on this semifinal

I think singles is evenly matched. Chinese doubles has the advantage for Fu and Cai - Xie/Guo have the power but somehow I think they should be doing better in terms of results. They play really well in early stages but later in torunaments don't seem to continue so well. I think that match is really unpredictable.

[hcpoirot]

Prediction:

Men teams:

CHN-INA :3-1

MAS-KOR 3-2

Women team:

CHN-KOR 3-0

JAP-SIN 3-1 or maybe even 3-0.

[2cents]

.. Xie/Guo have the power but somehow I think they should be doing better in terms of results. They play really well in early stages but later in torunaments don't seem to continue so well. I think that match is really unpredictable.

You are right, Cheung, Fu/Cai sound like the undisputable best men's double in China, but inside training, they lost many time to other pairs. Xie ZB/Zheng Bo beat all other pairs easily in training, but when they play open tournaments, they can lose at any time to any one.

[hcyong]

Men's team:

CHN v INA
I expect it to be something like in the group match, tight matches but ultimately going China's way. INA must bank on both doubles (which is a good possibility) and sneaking a singles win.

MAS v KOR
Lee CW and Hafiz are expected to win. Lee YD/Jung JS are also expected to win. Shon and Wong CH (I think Kuan has no chance) 50-50. 2nd doubles also 50-50. Very close, but I expect Malaysia to squeeze past.

Women's team

CHN v KOR
Almost a foregone conclusion. CHN stronger in every department.

JPN v SIN
I also feel JPN is stronger in every department over SIN.
Mori v Li Li
Hirose v Xing
Yonekura v Jiang (even if Jiang is surprisingly reliable so far, but Kanako is another story)
SIN has split the Jiang/Li combination in the group matches to create a better second pairing. But both JPN's pairs are about equally strong. I think SIN will play Jiang/Li to try to get a point in the doubles, instead of very possibly losing both doubles if they were split again. Jiang/Li has an even chance against any Japanese pair but to get two more points is quite difficult to SIN.

Prediction for final placement:
CHN v MAS
CHN v JPN

[2cents]

Prediction:

Men teams:

CHN-INA :3-1

MAS-KOR 3-2

Women team:

CHN-KOR 3-0

JAP-SIN 3-1 or maybe even 3-0.

exactly as Cheung pointed out, Chen Jin is question mark now. He was regarded the most stable winning point in the chain, now becomes the weakest link.

I remember in many movies, Extra terrestrial aliens seem invincible, even unthinkable to beat. But once one chain of this aliens machine gets broken, the whole machine is down. China national team is a little bit like that kind of non-stoppable machine, no body can beat them, but once you find a way to beat one of them, the others stop fighting contagiously. A good example is to compare the Olympic and World Championship, in the last WC, Lin Dan, Bao CL, Chen Hong win the gold, silver and bronze, all of them are unbeatable. But in OG, after Lin Dan lost in the 1st round, BCL, and CH lost easily and quickly too.

So there is still hopes for INA and other countries to win something. The key to beat China is to find the weakest link.

[2cents]

MAS v KOR
Lee CW and Hafiz are expected to win. Lee YD/Jung JS are also expected to win. Shon and Wong CH (I think Kuan has no chance) 50-50. 2nd doubles also 50-50. Very close, but I expect Malaysia to squeeze past.


But according to your assumption, MAS has 75% to win while KOR only 25%. This is not "very close" ;)

[ctjcad]

the rematch between INA and CHN should be exciting. Taufik, Sony, Luluk, and Alvent all get 32 hours rest, and Simon, Markis, Hendra get 28 hours rest. They also practiced more than China, more familiar with the court, While Bao CL only played 20 minutes. So all the INA players could win the 1st games because those CHN players will have not warmed up yet. But it is difficult to predict the 2nd games.

For Taufik vs Lindan, Taufik will win the 1st game, then the second one is very crucial, if Taufik wins, he of course win the match, if he loses, Lindan will not give him any chance in the 3rd game.

For Simon vs Chen Jin, Simon will win the 1st game, then the second game is very important, if Simon keeps winning, Chen Jin will packed home, if Simon loses, Chen Jin's confidence will boost up, Simon will run out of gas in the 3rd game.

For Sony vs Bao, Sony will win the 1st game, because Bao CL still needs to get used to the court. The 2nd game should belong to Bao, because he holds the all-win records against Sony, then the 3rd game is the time for Sony to make his own history. Anyway, maybe there is no need for this match.

For Markis/Hendra vs Fu/Cai, the INA will win the 1st game because Fu/Cai still enjoying the win last time. If Fu/Cai win the 2nd game, Markis/Hendra still have chance to win in the 3rd game.

For Luluk/Alvent vs Guo/Xie, Luluk/Alvent will win the 1st game, because they find their rhythm gradually, but Guo/Xie are fully energized, they will totally overpower Luluk/Alvent in the next two games.
..to drink lots and lots of GINSENG..:p
They will surely need it after another marathon day...Btw, 2cents, interesting analysis there...true the INA squad is more "familiar" with the courts by playing extra, but if CHN forces rubber sets in all their matches, then hope the INA squad have enough gas in the tank..:rolleyes: :p ;)

[ctjcad]

2cents, if all your predictions become reality, it seems like it would be a very tight games because all of them may be decided by the third set ... can't wait to watch the games tomorrow.

The games should start at 17:00 Doha time, which is equal to 14:00 GMT? For sure it's 9:00 AM EST.

So, CCTVwill be broadcasting, hopefully.

And, we all can watch it on TVANTS ... for those who hasn't installed TVANTS, you can download it from here: http://tvants.en.softonic.com/ie/56473

Try it out first before the games start tomorrow ...

Have fun everyone, and watch in peace ... no fights between fans anymore ... :)
..you can go to this link:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38549

Or you guys can also download TVUPlayer to watch the matches on CCTV1 & 5. Go here to download:
http://www.download.com/TVUPlayer/3000-2194_4-10584889.html?tag=lst-0-1

For U.S.-based viewer, Doha, Qatar is +8 from EST.
Beijing time is +13 hrs from U.S. EST.
So if it's 12 pm PDT & 3 pm EST(U.S.), then it's 4 am Beijing time and 11 pm Doha time(subtract 5 hrs from Beijing time).

Good luck and enjoy!-:):cool:

[2cents]

..to drink lots and lots of GINSENG..:p
They will surely need it after another marathon day...Btw, 2cents, interesting analysis there...true the INA squad is more "familiar" with the courts by playing extra, but if CHN forces rubber sets in all their matches, then hope the INA squad have enough gas in the tank..:rolleyes: :p ;)

exactly, I agree with you. INA's the biggest problem is the 3rd game. All INA players have problem to play the 3rd game. If Taufik, Simon, Sony, and doubles cannot win in 2 games, then they have less than 50% chance to win the match.

[Baderz_Jas]

Prediction:

Men teams:

CHN-INA :3-1

MAS-KOR 3-2

Women team:

CHN-KOR 3-0

JAP-SIN 3-1 or maybe even 3-0.

I agree with your predictions :p the 1 for INA in the Men's Event would be CJ most likely :) :( sorry CJ fans :crying: :(

[ctjcad]

..you can go to this link:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38549

Or you guys can also download TVUPlayer to watch the matches on CCTV1 & 5. Go here to download:
http://www.download.com/TVUPlayer/3000-2194_4-10584889.html?tag=lst-0-1

For U.S.-based viewer, Doha, Qatar is +8 from EST.
Beijing time is +13 hrs from U.S. EST.
So if it's 12 pm PDT & 3 pm EST(U.S.), then it's 4 am Beijing time and 11 pm Doha time(subtract 5 hrs from Beijing time).

Good luck and enjoy!-:):cool:
...barring any last minute changes, according to CCTV broadcast time, the web-cast(s) will commence:
12/4 18:00 CCTV1 women team SF - 2 am PDT/5 am EST 12/4 (Mon.)
12/4 22:00 CCTV1 men's team SF - 6 am PDT/9 am EST 12/4 (Mon.)
12/5 21:00 CCTV5 woman's team final - 5 am PDT/8 am EST 12/5 (Tue.)
12/5 23:00 CCTV5 man's team final - 7 am PDT/10 am EST 12/5 (Tue.)
12/7 20:00 CCTV1 1/4 - 4 am PDT/7 am EST 12/7 (Thu.)
12/8 21:00 CCTV1 XD SF - 5 am PDT/8 am EST 12/8 (Fri.)
12/8 22:00 CCTV1 MS SF - 6 am PDT/9 am EST 12/8 (Fri.)
12/8 23:00 CCTV1 WS SF - 7 am PDT/10 am EST 12/8 (Fri.)
12/9 00:00 CCTV1 MD SF - 8 am PDT/11 am EST 12/8 (Fri.)
12/9 01:00 CCTV1 WD SF - 9 am PDT 12/8(Fri.) or 12 pm EST (Fri.)
12/9 02:00 CCTV5 XD final - 10 am PDT 12/8(Fri.) or 1 pm EST 12/8 (Fri.)
12/9 21:00 CCTV5 WS final - 5 am PDT/8 am EST 12/9 (Sat.)
12/9 22:00 CCTV5 MS final - 6 am PDT/9 am EST 12/9 (Sat.)
12/9 23:00 CCTV1 WD final - 7 am PDT/10 am EST 12/9 (Sat.)
12/10 00:00 CCTV1 MD final - 8 am PDT/11 am EST 12/9 (Sat.)
...get those coffees ready and get some early sleep..:p :D ;)

[phaarix]

Looks like I'll have to wait until I wake up tomorrow to see who got through lol :(.

[hcyong]

But according to your assumption, MAS has 75% to win while KOR only 25%. This is not "very close" ;)

Even though I expect Lee CW, Hafiz and Lee/Jung to win, but it's not exactly with 100% confidence. There is never 100%. The order of confidence would be:
Lee/Jung
Lee CW
Hafiz (perhaps something like 70%)

So, things are not so clear cut. Last time Malaysia played Korea, Wong CH limped out.

[2cents]

Even though I expect Lee CW, Hafiz and Lee/Jung to win, but it's not exactly with 100% confidence. There is never 100%. The order of confidence would be:
Lee/Jung
Lee CW
Hafiz (perhaps something like 70%)

So, things are not so clear cut. Last time Malaysia played Korea, Wong CH limped out.

OK, good explanation, then it would be "very close"

Even with Wong CH's limping out, MAS still won. Now Wong is healthy and Shon SM limps out. So I still believe MAS will win with cushions.

[hcyong]

OK, good explanation, then it would be "very close"

Even with Wong CH's limping out, MAS still won. Now Wong is healthy and Shon SM limps out. So I still believe MAS will win with cushions.

Well, I hope so, too (not about Shon limping out, but about MAS winning with a cushion). But the cushion is not big enough to leave me unworried.

[2cents]

Well, I hope so, too (not about Shon limping out, but about MAS winning with a cushion). But the cushion is not big enough to leave me unworried.

If 3 singles play first, then Lee YD will not have a chance to show up. I think LYD is the only guy needs to worry about. Fortunately, he will not play singles, but he cannot play two men's doubles either.

[Cheung]

exactly as Cheung pointed out, Chen Jin is question mark now. He was regarded the most stable winning point in the chain, now becomes the weakest link.

I remember in many movies, Extra terrestrial aliens seem invincible, even unthinkable to beat. But once one chain of this aliens machine gets broken, the whole machine is down. China national team is a little bit like that kind of non-stoppable machine, no body can beat them, but once you find a way to beat one of them, the others stop fighting contagiously. A good example is to compare the Olympic and World Championship, in the last WC, Lin Dan, Bao CL, Chen Hong win the gold, silver and bronze, all of them are unbeatable. But in OG, after Lin Dan lost in the 1st round, BCL, and CH lost easily and quickly too.

So there is still hopes for INA and other countries to win something. The key to beat China is to find the weakest link.That's a funny analogy but quite true! China's technical skills are really good but if you can hit a weak point, the supporting people stumble. Usually that weak point is mental so if you can upset them psychologically (e.g. a surprise defeat by one of their players), you decrease their advantage tremendously.

[LI De Quan]

men's Semifinal
chn Vs Ina :3---2
kor Vs Mas :3---2

[Dreamzz]

yup i would also have to go with :

mens --> CHN vs MAS
womens --> CHN vs JPN

ultimately, i doubt anyone can stop CHN taking both team golds.

[OneToughBirdie]

yup i would also have to go with :

mens --> CHN vs MAS
womens --> CHN vs JPN

ultimately, i doubt anyone can stop CHN taking both team golds.
Women team gold is sure thing China would win...for a long time. If LCW could defy the odds (I cannot recall LCW beating LD outside of MAS) and beat LD, the two MD win theirs, then that is a huge upset. Otherwise I am with U both golds go to China..they are just too strong and well-balanced teams.

[super__gao]

exactly as Cheung pointed out, Chen Jin is question mark now. He was regarded the most stable winning point in the chain, now becomes the weakest link.

I remember in many movies, Extra terrestrial aliens seem invincible, even unthinkable to beat. But once one chain of this aliens machine gets broken, the whole machine is down. China national team is a little bit like that kind of non-stoppable machine, no body can beat them, but once you find a way to beat one of them, the others stop fighting contagiously. A good example is to compare the Olympic and World Championship, in the last WC, Lin Dan, Bao CL, Chen Hong win the gold, silver and bronze, all of them are unbeatable. But in OG, after Lin Dan lost in the 1st round, BCL, and CH lost easily and quickly too.

So there is still hopes for INA and other countries to win something. The key to beat China is to find the weakest link.
funny how u say that.
u might want to notice that CJ plays AFTER lin dan and FHF/CY. LOL
so i don't chen jin's win or loss will affect lin dan and FHF/CY on the court.

[indra]

INA vs China:

Absolutely...INA will win ...No doubt...

Today's SF will present the "real" showdown and final between Ina and China.

Current condition on TH.

On TH
He is very confident that he can take revenge. His yesterday's loss was a warming up and TH gave him a "carrot" for LD and TH will this time give LD a "stick". We will all witness LYB and LD "cry". Very SOON:D ...Watch out!!! Stay tuned.

On Markis/Hendra
They are also very very confident that they can handle Fu/Cai....Markis/Hendra are slow starters...Yesterday's loss was because "their engine" was not hot yet...Now they are hot already.....
They are now at the highest level of confidence...:D

On SImon
Wow...as I told you earlier....something has happened to SImon recently....
CJ was defeated VERY VERY EASILY:D ....It was only 70% of SImon's real power......This young man not only will conclude the showdown , but also will be the person who prevents the dream final between LD vs TH in the individual event from happening because LD will surrender to him in the second round...Watch out :D

SO INA will defeat China 3 [THREE] - 0 [NIL]

[BooYa]

Hope to see MAS vs. KOREA in FINAL!:D

[OneToughBirdie]

INA vs China:

Absolutely...INA will win ...No doubt...

Today's SF will present the "real" showdown and final between Ina and China.

Current condition on TH.

On TH
He is very confident that he can take revenge. His yesterday's loss was a warming up and TH gave him a "carrot" for LD and TH will this time give LD a "stick". We will all witness LYB and LD "cry". Very SOON:D ...Watch out!!! Stay tuned.

On Markis/Hendra
They are also very very confident that they can handle Fu/Cai....Markis/Hendra are slow starters...Yesterday's loss was because "their engine" was not hot yet...Now they are hot already.....
They are now at the highest level of confidence...:D

On SImon
Wow...as I told you earlier....something has happened to SImon recently....
CJ was defeated VERY VERY EASILY:D ....It was only 70% of SImon's real power......This young man not only will conclude the showdown , but also will be the person who prevents the dream final between LD vs TH in the individual event from happening because LD will surrender to him in the second round...Watch out :D

SO INA will defeat China 3 [THREE] - 0 [NIL]
I miss your humour, where have U been, hahahah? I think U say these things to fire up those Team China kissers. Not an excuse for CJ, but CJ play different than he usually played and Simon played very confidently and deserve to win the game. I admire your optimism in Team INA. If Simon can repeat his feat against CJ, then I may be convinced that INA may have two future hopes in Tommy and Simon. Hey, Indra, ever think of being a salesman, you will make a hell of a convincing salesperson...hahahaha!

[cooler]

i came to this thread too late. I was gonna predict Indra to predict INA to win, with 100% certainty :D

[Wai Shing]

Haha. on Simon though, didn't he almost lose today to Sho Sasaki and he also had to go full distance to beat Poompat. Better hope he didnt peak too early lol, beating CJ in semi final is more important than beating him in the group match:D

[Jofianty]

ha..ha..ha..INA Vs CHN 3-0 for INA ...
that's a very optimistic prediction :)
by the way what's time the match start?

[ctjcad]

INA vs China:

Absolutely...INA will win ...No doubt...

Today's SF will present the "real" showdown and final between Ina and China.

SO INA will defeat China 3 [THREE] - 0 [NIL]
..reminds me of the song "I'm A Believer" by the Monkees..;):)
...indra, glad you're back again..:cool: .Hope the long weekend served you well and you're refresh..hehe;):p :D ;)
If Taufik and co. read this, i'm sure they'll want you to come over to Doha right now and cheer them on(they'll really need it)..;)
Hope you'll get yourself comfortable tonight when da "real" showdown begins..;) :cool:

[event]

I think that, at the very least, indra is right in that if Indonesia wins at all, 3-0 is the most likely score. In the case of those first three matchups, the Indonesian side has shown that it is at least possible for those Chinese players to be beaten. Markis and Hendra have beaten Fu/Cai within the last two months and Simon has beaten Chen Jin within the last two days! Taufik over Lin Dan? Well, I guess it has at least happened within the last two years. It's been so long since I've seen Alven/Luluk win but on paper, Xie/Guo are far from unbeatable.

It is more with such claims as
Absolutely......No doubt that indra invites derision.

[jgao_net]

does anyone know when it starts?

[OneToughBirdie]

I think that, at the very least, indra is right in that if Indonesia wins at all, 3-0 is the most likely score. In the case of those first three matchups, the Indonesian side has shown that it is at least possible for those Chinese players to be beaten. Markis and Hendra have beaten Fu/Cai within the last two months and Simon has beaten Chen Jin within the last two days! Taufik over Lin Dan? Well, I guess it has at least happened within the last two years. It's been so long since I've seen Alven/Luluk win but on paper, Xie/Guo are far from unbeatable.

It is more with such claims as that indra invites derision.
As much as TH attracts the most dialoque in BC, Indra attracts an equal amount of airtime. See, Indra, food for thought for you, if you get paid everytime your name is mentioned on BC, say a buck 49 cents per posting, you will be as rich at TH. BC will miss TH and Indra if both of you retire and BC, oops typo error, I mean the game will never be the same...hahahaha!

[storkbill]

LIVE at 2pm on Channel 5..... here's the startlist: http://www.doha-2006.com/gis/Sports/BD/IGBDStartListTM.aspx?rscid=BDW03-BDTNC0-NC01-0

Can support Team Spore and also see the Jap ladies in action.... :D :p :D


thanks for the update because i scanned todays newspaper and it didn't give this listing.... getting it recorded....

Match of the day for me will be - Li YuJia/Jiang YanMei (W/R 11) vs Ogura/Shiota (W/R 15).... :D

The other matches might be a bit too one-sided.... Li Li does not seem to be at her peak judging by the match vs Thailand... she seemed to be lacking power (compared to how hard the equally small sized Eriko and Kaori can hit).

[CLELY]

INA vs China:

Absolutely...INA will win ...No doubt...

Today's SF will present the "real" showdown and final between Ina and China.

SO INA will defeat China 3 [THREE] - 0 [NIL]

Again, indra's trademark to create fantastic prediction (as usual).

Men's Team (05.00pm local time -- 09.00pm Jkt time / 10.00pm MAS time)
- CHN vs INA, really hard to decide who will entering last round. But whoever will win I guess end-score is 3-2 with key-factor is still depend on duel between INA's badboy vs CHN's superDan to open winning-road of their teams. Tim Merah Putih, siap tempur!

- KOR vs MAS, huge chance for MAS to attend final show tomorrow because at least MAS have got one benefit here (can avoid one of 2 bdm giants INA plus CHN in last 4). What a pity if MAS fail to beat KOR this time, end-score 3-2 or 3-1 to MAS boleh!

Women's Team -- CHN is all the best to win GOLD, no need to predict!

[Wong8Egg]

On TH
He is very confident that he can take revenge. His yesterday's loss was a warming up and TH gave him a "carrot" for LD and TH will this time give LD a "stick". We will all witness LYB and LD "cry". Very SOON:D ...Watch out!!! Stay tuned.


On CJ
He is very confident that he can take revenge. His yesterday's loss was a warming up and CJ gave him a "carrot" for Simon and CJ will this time give Simon a "stick". We will all witness Simon and TH "cry". Very SOON:D ...Watch out!!! Stay tuned.





:p Just kidding

[kaylee]

oh shoots. li li could have made the most magnificent comeback! too bad k. mori was lucky today. :(

[OneToughBirdie]

China women and men teams' single players are just too strong. For them to lose even 1 singles' match would be considered upset and that is called RESPECT. The only holes are in MD, WS and WD would need a miracle to beat China, and we would need to call Moses or Jesus for help to create that miracle. As for CJ setback, I am still convinced he will dominate the game after LD, TH and LCW retire, the future star of China. Therefore, we need more Simons to show up, from any countries regardless, to make this game exciting, darn the game will be called regional games dominated by Chinese players in finals after finals after...., and I would say the 'fun' and 'excitement' created by TH and Indra in BC would be more exciting than any all-china finals at that time...hahaha!

[storkbill]

Kaori Mori won in 21-19, 21-11.... guess singapore playing for pride after this... best they can do is 2-3....

[rwchen]

The worst may befall CHN if both TH and Hendra/Kido outsmart LD and Cai/Fu while CJ crumbles as third single.Of course, the 1st match is crucial. I remembered back in 1992, it was Rashid Sidek beating Zhao Jian Hua in the opening tie in the semi-final that led to the collapse of the great wall. This time, I can see that INA strength has grown much compared to the Thomas Cup in last May. They had convincing win over Thailand yesterday as compared to their marginal win in Thomas Cup. Simon Santoso also shows that he is a more reliable second singles than Sony Dwi Kuncoro. Nevertheless, I am hoping for a MAS vs CHN showdown in the final.

[kaylee]

Kaori Mori won in 21-19, 21-11.... guess singapore playing for pride after this... best they can do is 2-3....

which is rather impossible...

oh well, let's just enjoy the match between Jiang/Li and Kumiko/Reiko. :o

[OneToughBirdie]

The worst may befall CHN if both TH and Hendra/Kido outsmart LD and Cai/Fu while CJ crumbles as third single.Of course, the 1st match is crucial. I remembered back in 1992, it was Rashid Sidek beating Zhao Jian Hua in the opening tie in the semi-final that led to the collapse of the great wall. This time, I can see that INA strength has grown much compared to the Thomas Cup in last May. They had convincing win over Thailand yesterday as compared to their marginal win in Thomas Cup. Simon Santoso also shows that he is a more reliable second singles than Sony Dwi Kuncoro. Nevertheless, I am hoping for a MAS vs CHN showdown in the final.
INA vrs China is always exciting between 2 badminton superpowers. Upset can happen, of course. TH can beat LD if the game does not go 3-set, the way LD plays the 3rd set seems as though LD has reserve to play a second match right away. INA doubles could win too.....the way I see is China has the thingie in the bag, it is for them to lose, China is just too strong but I would like to see an upset....the satelite phone call and email I sent to Moses, I have not gotten a reply yet...meanwhile we can wait for a miracle http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[kaylee]

reiko looks nice with her fringe :D

so sad sg lost first game 21-23 after such a fight..:crying:
and sg is now wasting points in the 2nd set. wth are they doing?!
big lead at first then losing all the points unnecessarily. omg.

[Clecwm]

Wow. Kumiko/Reiko alr won a set from Jiang/Li. They were really agressive. awesome match too.

[event]

...barring any last minute changes, according to CCTV broadcast time, the web-cast(s) will commence:
12/4 18:00 CCTV1 women team SF - 2 am PDT/5 am EST 12/4 (Mon.)
12/4 22:00 CCTV1 men's team SF - 6 am PDT/9 am EST 12/4 (Mon.)
12/5 21:00 CCTV5 woman's team final - 5 am PDT/8 am EST 12/5 (Tue.)
12/5 23:00 CCTV5 man's team final - 7 am PDT/10 am EST 12/5 (Tue.)
12/7 20:00 CCTV1 1/4 - 4 am PDT/7 am EST 12/7 (Thu.)
12/8 21:00 CCTV1 XD SF - 5 am PDT/8 am EST 12/8 (Fri.)
12/8 22:00 CCTV1 MS SF - 6 am PDT/9 am EST 12/8 (Fri.)
12/8 23:00 CCTV1 WS SF - 7 am PDT/10 am EST 12/8 (Fri.)
12/9 00:00 CCTV1 MD SF - 8 am PDT/11 am EST 12/8 (Fri.)
12/9 01:00 CCTV1 WD SF - 9 am PDT 12/8(Fri.) or 12 pm EST (Fri.)
12/9 02:00 CCTV5 XD final - 10 am PDT 12/8(Fri.) or 1 pm EST 12/8 (Fri.)
12/9 21:00 CCTV5 WS final - 5 am PDT/8 am EST 12/9 (Sat.)
12/9 22:00 CCTV5 MS final - 6 am PDT/9 am EST 12/9 (Sat.)
12/9 23:00 CCTV1 WD final - 7 am PDT/10 am EST 12/9 (Sat.)
12/10 00:00 CCTV1 MD final - 8 am PDT/11 am EST 12/9 (Sat.)
...get those coffees ready and get some early sleep..I know this was posted elsewhere but I don't see any Asian Games badminton coverage listed for today on CCTV1 (http://www.cctv.com/tvguide/tvguide/11/01/20061204/1.shtml) or CCTV5 (http://www.cctv.com/tvguide/tvguide/11/01/20061204/5.shtml). On 5, at least it does say it will cover the Asian Games, though without mentioning badminton specifically and it doesn't have any specific sports or times listed for after 6PM, but CCTV1 doesn't have any sports listed at all for any of those dates. Not that I can see, at any rate. It remains to be seen, I guess.

On the other hand, Guangdong Sports (http://www.gdtv.com.cn/newpage/sports/ttdb.asp) does have the badminton team semi-finals listed explicitly for this evening at 19:05 and 23:35 for the women's and men's respectively. Maybe they are both going to show the same thing and GDTV just has done a better job on their online schedule. I don't know what would explain the CCTV1 schedule discrepancy, though. As usual, GDTV's coverage schedule suggests they will be an hour late getting to the competition as the time in China will be 18:00 when the women's SF starts and 22:00 when the men's SF starts. Last week, it actually seemed to make sense to tune in early. I guess the best idea is to just tune in when the tournament is actually starting and hope it is covered. We'll all, no doubt, be switching among CCTV1, CCTV5 and GDTV until someone tells us they saw a shuttle flying on one or the other.

[byelnats]

The first match is definitely the most crucial one here. TH and LD are both symbols of power for their respective countries. Whoever won here will give his country a psychological advantage as well. It will be interesting to watch this game. I will say this is the most important match for TH. His and Indonesia's pride is on the line. I pray to God TH won't give anymore crappy excuse e.g. I am concentrating on the individual event, bla bla bla.

In my opinion, Indonesia has to win the first three matches to reach the final. Luluk/Alvent are simply VERY unreliable at the moment. Sony has a very small chance of beating Bao Chunlai. Simon certainly has bigger chance to beat CJ than Sony defeating Bao.

In any case...GO INDONESIA!!!

[indra]

The worst may befall CHN if both TH and Hendra/Kido outsmart LD and Cai/Fu while CJ crumbles as third single.Of course, the 1st match is crucial. I remembered back in 1992, it was Rashid Sidek beating Zhao Jian Hua in the opening tie in the semi-final that led to the collapse of the great wall. This time, I can see that INA strength has grown much compared to the Thomas Cup in last May. They had convincing win over Thailand yesterday as compared to their marginal win in Thomas Cup. Simon Santoso also shows that he is a more reliable second singles than Sony Dwi Kuncoro. Nevertheless, I am hoping for a MAS vs CHN showdown in the final.

Oh...yes...the fall of China's Team [Mens] is imminent, it is a matter of hours, then after that we will all together read the headline news that surprises the badminton community, except me:D .

I have never seen this highest level of confidence on the part of the Indonesian players before. Very good to know this...regarding the yesterday's defeat, all players did not take it seriously, they took it as a warming up / practice...nothing to worry:D :D

The moment has come...this is the right time for INA team to show the world who is actually the "mecca" of Badminton. Tonight's "survival of the fittest" will be a "must-see and much awaited clash of Badminton civilization"...:)

[ctjcad]

The first match is definitely the most crucial one here. TH and LD are both symbols of power for their respective countries. Whoever won here will give his country a psychological advantage as well. It will be interesting to watch this game. I will say this is the most important match for TH. His and Indonesia's pride is on the line. I pray to God TH won't give anymore crappy excuse e.g. I am concentrating on the individual event, bla bla bla.
LD who has to win or TH who is basically in a "no-win-no-lose" situation??..:rolleyes:;)
..hmm, i'll say if Taufik is able to somehow escape against LD in the Semis:rolleyes: , i think it will help him mentally & confidence wise when they meet again(barring any upsets against both) later on in the Individual Men's Single competition...But then i don't know how will Taufik manage to up his energy after going thru 2 matches yesterday, while LD was resting...
Hopefully we won't see one of those sets like he did in the Japan Open vs. LD(threw away the game in the 3rd set)..:rolleyes: :o :p

Soooooo much pressure..:p;):cool:

[zqloy]

OK, good explanation, then it would be "very close"

Even with Wong CH's limping out, MAS still won. Now Wong is healthy and Shon SM limps out. So I still believe MAS will win with cushions.

But remember in TC our team is still banking on the veteran pairs but now, gambling 2 young and less experience pair so the game might still go either way. Well, all the best to Malaysian team! ;)

[junky]

Will astro showing the semi final match between MAS vs Korea??and when is it??issit tonite??or tml??

[phaarix]

....It was only 70% of SImon's real power......

Hehe, sounds like Dragon Ball Z :p. "You fool, I'm not even at 100% power!".

[ctjcad]

Oh...yes...the fall of China's Team [Mens] is imminent, it is a matter of hours, then after that we will all together read the headline news that surprises the badminton community, except me:D .

I have never seen this highest level of confidence on the part of the Indonesian players before. Very good to know this...regarding the yesterday's defeat, all players did not take it seriously, they took it as a warming up / practice...nothing to worry:D :D

The moment has come...this is the right time for INA team to show the world who is actually the "mecca" of Badminton. Tonight's "survival of the fittest" will be a "must-see and much awaited clash of Badminton civilization"...:)
...indra, after reading your prediction above, i think it's time we give you a new nickname;) :
"Indra, the PBSI prophet"....;) :cool:

[ssuly]

CHN VS INA!! I hope TH, a former badminton prodigy will not even hesitate to maintain his pride (an honorable lost will be more than enough) in the face of LD, the current badminton prodigy. If this condition holds, a great match is awaiting for all of us........:D:D:D

[sickgal]

i seriously salute indra's enthusiasm!! hahahaha.... but still i'll go for china's victory!!! JIA You!!

[sickgal]

CCTV5 has web live telecasst right??? im anticipating for that!! and now it should have start what!! but so far... not yet..

[sickgal]

what is CCTV5 n CCTV1 broadcasting..one is doing summary of the events took place today .. .another is still airing commercial ads...... wahh... i wanna watch badminton!!

[**KZ**]

now astro got rpt of the earlier JPN vz SIN semi

[sickgal]

okie.. ZN won the 1st game!! gam ba te!! but still i cannot watch live via net!! whats goin on??

[mmooww]

when's man team gonna start?

[sickgal]

can anyone tell me that are u guys manage to watch the SF live via net!!??? why no one posting messages here... aikz....

[event]

According to the Doha site, China vs. Korea should have started 45 minutes ago. As I mentioned in an earlier post (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=477198&postcount=52), according to the CCTV5 schedule, they aren't showing any badminton today, according to the CCTV1 schedule, they aren't showing any Asian Games ever, and according to the GDTV website, they are starting their coverage 1h late for the women's semi-final and 95 minutes late for the men's team semi-final. So the fact that there is no badminton on yet does not surprise me. And no, I don't have any explanation for the discrepancy between what woodenRacket posted here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=475155&postcount=1), and what I found on the schedules today.

[sickgal]

huh???what?? means no live at all?? not even for men's SF later??? ????

[sickgal]

so why are 2cents n some other ppl said told us to download tvants or tvu to watcht the live telecast??? aiks... so sad!!!

[taufik-ist]

may INDRA'S FORCE be with INA's TEAM

indonesia vs china: 3:2 or 1:3

[event]

so why are 2cents n some other ppl said told us to download tvants or tvu to watcht the live telecast??? aiks... so sad!!!Well, it doesn't hurt to remain hopeful. GDTV's schedule does say that they will start broadcasting the women in 5 minutes. Of course, that will be just in time to watch one lightning fast match when Xie Xingfang dismisses unknown Lee Hyun-jin 21-5, 21-7 or so to send Korea packing. A couple of minutes ago I saw a brief shot of a badminton court and some statistics on GDTV but I can't understand what the anchors are saying. Stay tuned.

[sickgal]

what is GDTV??? another live telecast via net?? if yes.. where do we download it?

[LI De Quan]

WOW!JUN Jae Youn will play against ZHU Lin.Anyone know how JUN Jae Youn is now?

[event]

what is GDTV??? another live telecast via net?? if yes.. where do we download it?GDTV is Guangdong Sports, a Chinese TV station that often shows badminton with more commercials than CCTV-5 does. It is harder to find on PPStream because its name only shows up in Chinese characters on channel lists. The link is this (http://www.ppstream.com/proinfo/RAROMB2J37U2VR7IY5A5OVNVJX43ENOL.html) if you're using PPStream or this (tvants://www.tvants.com/tvants/?k=568530459051240c) if you're using TVAnts.

[event]

WOW!JUN Jae Youn will play against ZHU Lin.Anyone know how JUN Jae Youn is now?No, she won't. Xie will finish the tie in about 6 minutes, I reckon. Korea never had a chance.

[event]

China won. Guangdong Sports didn't show any of it live. They still have gymnastics on. They might choose differently when the men are playing. Did anyone look at CCTV? I shut it down a while ago because they didn't look like they were going to show any badminton.

[Syaoran_Style]

CCTV-5 is showing gymnastic ... I waste my time waiting for badminton =/
Anyway ! Tomorow Japan vs China !
an a 3-0 for China LoL
Well, Kaori Mori seems to be in a really good shape and could take one point from zhang ning. Eriko hirose used to beat some chinese player .. she may also create an upset tomorow ... =)
Let's see !

[sickgal]

event i dun understand chinese words.. which link to click when i come to that website?? haha..thanks ya.

[sickgal]

why are they not broadcasting badminton!!! aiksss

[event]

event i dun understand chinese words.. which link to click when i come to that website?? haha..thanks ya.I can't understand Chinese either. Fortunately, in Guangdong, they use the same icon for "play"http://www.ppstream.com/images/playico.gif as the rest of the world does so when you click on the PPStream link (http://www.ppstream.com/proinfo/RAROMB2J37U2VR7IY5A5OVNVJX43ENOL.html), you should get a little icon in the middle of the page that looks like a PLAY button on a VCR, etc. Click on that.
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[fukusami16]

Hi everybody,,Is astro broadcasting live for the MAS vs Korea semifinal ?....

[CaesarZ]

China won. Guangdong Sports didn't show any of it live. They still have gymnastics on. They might choose differently when the men are playing. Did anyone look at CCTV? I shut it down a while ago because they didn't look like they were going to show any badminton.

I think I need to clarify things here. On the GDTV schedule site, they state that they will broadcast gymnastics LIVE from 19.05 and the women badminton semis will be shown after the gymnastics.

The mens badminton semis however will be broadcast LIVE at 22.35, followed by non-live events of weightlifting, basketball and swimming.

[event]

Thanks so much for the clarification.

I am still afraid that we won't see much of the men's semi-final live, though, as GDTV's coverage is set to start 95 minutes after the tie starts.

[CaesarZ]

Thanks so much for the clarification.

I am still afraid that we won't see much of the men's semi-final live, though, as GDTV's coverage is set to start 95 minutes after the tie starts.

It will start 35mins after the tie starts. Tie starts at 1700 doha time which is 2200 china time.

[NgauNgau]

I don't know where to ask this, but anyone here knows when will the Men's team Final Match starts tomorrow? Malaysia Time?

[DoublesPlayer]

8 PM Malaysia time

I don't know where to ask this, but anyone here knows when will the Men's team Final Match starts tomorrow? Malaysia Time?

[event]

It will start 35mins after the tie starts. Tie starts at 1700 doha time which is 2200 china time.I stand corrected. I keep confusing myself when I translate the times into Korean time in my head. You are absolutely right. Hey, at this rate, if Taufik vs. Lin Dan goes to three games again, we might be lucky enough to catch the tail end of it or even the whole third game.

[Jessica]

I think if the cctv5 or any other channel broadcst the men team...They will only broadcast china vs ind...Anyone know which channel will broadcast the semis between mas and korea???

[vsdelfin]

Isn't the CHN-INA match supposed to have started 9 minutes ago? Any updates?

[DoublesPlayer]

Nope, it just started now ...

GDTV is showing long commercials ...


Isn't the CHN-INA match supposed to have started 9 minutes ago? Any updates?

[sickgal]

event i found it..but when i click it the next thing is 'the page cannot be found' arrgg.hhh..so frustrated...

[tino4]

4-3 for th..................
5-4 for th
6-4 th
6-6

[Jessica]

Why there are no any channel showing????

[sickgal]

lcw is losing by 2 points... 7-9... LD is losing by one.. 5-6

[sickgal]

LCW n LD!! JIa YOU!! beat your opponent!!

[Jessica]

Are anyone watching live broadcast anywhere???Please share it???

[sickgal]

btw..... why put CJ against Simon again?? why not make BCL the 2nd single?? aikz..

[_MyST_Spring]

where to watch??

[sickgal]

jessica... no... at least as far aas im concerned.. CCTV1 n CCTV5 not showin badminton..

[tino4]

11-9 for th.....

[event]

event i found it..but when i click it the next thing is 'the page cannot be found' arrgg.hhh..so frustrated...Try TVAnts then. My PPStream keeps stalling to buffer anyway. The picture quality is good, though. TVAnts is smooth but the picture is not good.

[tino4]

13-10for th
i have a good feeling on taufik...

[woodenRacket]

damn it, CCTV fooled again....
GDTV scheduled from 2235, 20 minutes later

[sickgal]

LCW N LD>>. GAm BA TE!!!

[tino4]

14 - 10 for th
cmon taufik....

[magical_phoenix]

Go China!!! Go Lin Dan!!! Jia you!!!!!

[ssuly]

aaaaarrrrghhhhh! cctv5 is showing sniping!!!!!!!!nooooooooooo:crying::crying::crying :

[_MyST_Spring]

both cctv1 and 5 not showing anything...

[nugroho]

any badminton live ????heeelllppppp

[woodenRacket]

btw..... why put CJ against Simon again?? why not make BCL the 2nd single?? aikz..

coz CJ ranked higher than BCL, CJ must perform before BCL

[sickgal]

event tvants not showin badminton also...

[**KZ**]

maybe rtm 1 will show at 11....for m'sians

[sickgal]

and so LCW lost the 1st game!!! bite my fingers!!!

[**KZ**]

just tune in to the live scoring for now

[Jessica]

Lee Hynn ll took down the first set by 21-19 while LD is leading taufil with 17-16

[**KZ**]

o this is not good....I saw LCW playing against sato last week and he looks shaky.....o this is really not good.....LHI is fired up

[event]

event tvants not showin badminton also...That's right. Guangdong Sports says they will start showing badminton from 22:35. Just wait another 12 minutes.

[nugroho]

are they showing it?

[DoublesPlayer]

LD - TH: 20 - 20, tight match, I wish I can watch it live

[DoublesPlayer]

LD - TH: 20 - 20, tight match, I wish I can watch it live

[sickgal]

hooorraaayyy!! LD took the 1st game!!! hope LCW wins the 2nd game!!

[sickgal]

hooorraaayyy!! LD took the 1st game!!! hope LCW wins the 2nd game!!

[**KZ**]

LHI leading 6-4....c'mon LCW can't lose.....if he loses then M'sia is finished

[Racquet4ever]

sorry to interrupt..im new here..just wanna teel u,if RTM show the badminton matches,you can watch it live via www.syoktv.net..no need to download anthin,just click on the website,besides the website is in english...:)

[woodenRacket]

LD took it 22:20

[2cents]

wow, Lin dan sneaked into 2nd game, Lee HI squeezed in also

[**KZ**]

LHI leading 7-6....c'mon LCW can't lose.....if he loses then M'sia is finished

[DoublesPlayer]

LD - TH: 20 - 20, tight match, I wish I can watch it live
LD - TH: 21 - 20

[DoublesPlayer]

LD - TH: 20 - 20, tight match, I wish I can watch it live
LD - TH: 21 - 20
LD - TH: 22 - 20, LD won the first set

[**KZ**]

LHI leading 7-6....c'mon LCW can't lose.....if he loses then M'sia is finished

[Racquet4ever]

i'm sorry,there's 'no' there..actuallt there is no 'no'..the actual one is www.syoktv.net

[DoublesPlayer]

LD - TH: 20 - 20, tight match, I wish I can watch it live
LD - TH: 21 - 20
LD - TH: 22 - 20, LD won the first set

Come on GDTV, start showing badminton ...

[sickgal]

what happen to m'sian team?? i dun think they can make it through to final! aikzzz

[chemile]

TH lost :(( The opportunity to reach final for Indonesia will be gone

[_MyST_Spring]

lindan 2:1 won...

[chemile]

MH/HS won first set 21-14. Come on, INA... You can do it!!!

[chemile]

MH/HS won first set 21-14. Come on, INA... You can do it!!!

[sickgal]

m'sia team....are they planning to give away to korea with 3 matches????

[sickgal]

hafiz's momentum is really like a yo-yo!!!no hope le...sob sob...

[Baderz_Jas]

Lin Dan won :D :p again! :D I'm suprised FHF/CY lost today :crying: otherwise it would be alot more easy for China :D just joking :D :p

[2cents]

TH lost :(( The opportunity to reach final for Indonesia will be gone

Don't be so sad, Indonesia could win two doubles

[Baderz_Jas]

XZB/GZD are leading the 3rd set 19-16 :eek: :eek: jia you :D

[Baderz_Jas]

match point la :D jia you :p

[blckknght]

the live score doesn't actually seem to report scores, just how many games are won. example: XIE Zhongbo/GUO Zhendong vs Alven Yulianto/Luluk Hadiyanto is tied at 1 game each, but there is no score... it could be 0-0 or 20-20 in the third game right now

[Baderz_Jas]

yes! :D China wins :D XZB/GZD won 6-21, 21-6, 21-16 :p

[kaylee]

china vs korea tmr seems interesting :D

[kaylee]

the live score doesn't actually seem to report scores, just how many games are won. example: XIE Zhongbo/GUO Zhendong vs Alven Yulianto/Luluk Hadiyanto is tied at 1 game each, but there is no score... it could be 0-0 or 20-20 in the third game right now

you have to go here: http://www.doha-2006.com/gis/Sports/BD/IGBDMatchResultsTM.aspx?rscid=BDM03-BDTNC0-NC01-0

[Baderz_Jas]

china vs korea tmr seems interesting :D

yeah! LD vs LHI :D JIA YOU ;) :rolleyes:

[liying_0505]

Although MAS team lost, i still wanna hormat them for putting a good fight, especially Lin Woon Fui & Fairuz. HORMAT!!!!

[chehsi]

I was browsing around in that 4 Astro Channels but no sight of the MAS vs KOR match... till I switched to TV1 ..and it was Hafiz who was playing (shucks! should have switched channel earlier).

Since the commentator is from TV1, I find it funny.. cuz' at one point when Sung Hwan was scratching his head.. the commentator said 'oh.. garu kepala pulak.. yang tidak gatal'.. (oh.. scratching his head now.. tho not itchy).. and lots of other stuff he mentioned like .. when you're watching such a match, make sure you got no cups and saucers in front of you or you'll kill them. and that such a match is not for the faint hearted.

It was indeed... very kan cheong... but.. I feel geram at the same time. Cuz' Hafiz was like so slumber. And to my horror, the commentator mentioned that Chong Wei and Fairuz/Woon Fui already lost..

After a relief sigh... comes KKK & TBH... and I was kinda upset with them. They made a lot of silly mistakes. I still think that they're not that ready yet to be partners in such big tournament. They can't communicate well.. they tend to go after the shuttle together... and lost.... :(

[badMania]

Yet again, Luluk/Alvent lost to Guo/Xie, although the third set was quite close at the end. Those who predicted that INA had a huge advantage in the second doubles have ignored the fact that Luluk/Alvent have NEVER beaten Guo/Xie since the HK Open last year. They also lost to Guo/Xu.

Kido/Hendra have proven that they have what it takes to beat Fu/Cai regularly. It's now 2-2 between these 2 pairs in the past 4 encounters...3 of which ended in rubber-sets. They are scheduled to meet again in the semi-finals of the individual event...so..I hope they can beat the Chinese pair again.

As for Taufik, he doesn't have the stamina to last 3 games as we have seen in so many matches lately. He could have taken the first set after leading 16-12...yet...he lost in deuce.

Similarly for Simon, he was leading 18-16 in the first set...but ended up losing 5 straight points to CJ.

It could well have been 3-0 to INA, but, as I predicted, China eventually beat INA 3-1. I am not too disappointed...given that it was expected...and I am more upbeat abt Kido/Hendra's victory.

[jermaine]

INA vs China:

Absolutely...INA will win ...No doubt...

Today's SF will present the "real" showdown and final between Ina and China.

Current condition on TH.

On TH
He is very confident that he can take revenge. His yesterday's loss was a warming up and TH gave him a "carrot" for LD and TH will this time give LD a "stick". We will all witness LYB and LD "cry". Very SOON:D ...Watch out!!! Stay tuned.

On Markis/Hendra
They are also very very confident that they can handle Fu/Cai....Markis/Hendra are slow starters...Yesterday's loss was because "their engine" was not hot yet...Now they are hot already.....
They are now at the highest level of confidence...:D

On SImon
Wow...as I told you earlier....something has happened to SImon recently....
CJ was defeated VERY VERY EASILY:D ....It was only 70% of SImon's real power......This young man not only will conclude the showdown , but also will be the person who prevents the dream final between LD vs TH in the individual event from happening because LD will surrender to him in the second round...Watch out :D

SO INA will defeat China 3 [THREE] - 0 [NIL]


dream on..............
no players can match lin dan's consistency and i think lin dan looked as if he is playing a warm up match because he didnt really smash much..
on the other hand, taufik looked as if he is really gonna cry when lin dan started drifting away from the pts.

[badMania]

SO INA will defeat China 3 [THREE] - 0 [NIL]

Dude...u are still living in dreamland.....:cool:

[edwin]

Great victory by Xie Zhongbo/Guo Zhendong.

My question, what is a stronger doubles team? Xie Zhongbo/Guo Zhendong or XIE Zhongbo/Zheng Bo? I don't understand why LYB selects XIE Zhongbo/GUO Zhendong to play 2nd doubles (which is a very role with very high pressure) for a team event but not ask the same doubles combination to play in the individual event. Anyone knows the reason behind it?

Any words on when AG is over, who will Zheng Bo and Xie Zhongbo's regular doubles partner be?

[2cents]

yes! :D China wins :D XZB/GZD won 6-21, 21-6, 21-16 :p

Yeah, this is exactly what I predicted, Luluk/Yulianto would win 1st set easily because more familiar with the court, but Guo/Xie would execute afterwards



For Luluk/Alvent vs Guo/Xie, Luluk/Alvent will win the 1st game, because they find their rhythm gradually, but Guo/Xie are fully energized, they will totally overpower Luluk/Alvent in the next two games.




...
Lindan will not give him any chance in the 3rd game.

Got this one correct too



...
Simon will run out of gas in the 3rd game.

Exactly as I predicted :D :D :D



Sony vs Bao CL
...
Anyway, maybe there is no need for this match.

Got this right again



For Markis/Hendra vs Fu/Cai, the INA will win the 1st game because Fu/Cai still enjoying the win last time. If Fu/Cai win the 2nd game, Markis/Hendra still have chance to win in the 3rd game.

What a prediction! I have to kowtow to myself

[2cents]

Great victory by Xie Zhongbo/Guo Zhendong.

My question, what is a stronger doubles team? Xie Zhongbo/Guo Zhendong or XIE Zhongbo/Zheng Bo? I don't understand why LYB selects XIE Zhongbo/GUO Zhendong to play 2nd doubles (which is a very role with very high pressure) for a team event but not ask the same doubles combination to play in the individual event. Anyone knows the reason behind it?

Any words on when AG is over, who will Zheng Bo and Xie Zhongbo's regular doubles partner be?

Well, let me confide the secret, inside CHN national team, Xie Zhongbo/Zheng Bo were once the best before the WC training. But they don't have any IBF points. Then Guo struggles hard to stay in the national team and got approved, Zheng Bo and Xie ZB are both strong players, so the current decision is to let Xie ZB concentrate on Mixed double, and Zheng Bo/Guo play the men's double. Xie ZB will play with Zhang Jun as a spare double while both main tasks are mixed double.

[**KZ**]

well....nvr really seen the LCW and 1st doubles....but it's very disappointing....LWF/fairuz had a chance to close it out in the 2nd when they were leading 20-18....instead they let the opponents grab 4 points in a row...
as for hafiz....1st game was total domination....2nd game as always....he tried to play the fancy shots and lost it....3rd game he picked up paced late in the game and won ....
KKK/TBH.....gosh....TBH was making most of the mistakes....KKK made some mistakes while trying to play fancy shots....teamwork wasn't very good....they also had a chance to play the rubber but they blew it...they wasted lots of big leads and always let their opponents come back....
disappointed....hope better things will happen in the individuals

[Han]

I think Astro is gong to broadcast the delay version of SF Team event on the 5th starting from 2pm Malaysia Time.
I am really dissapointed with team Malaysia especially in this Asian Games, lots of last minutes changes on MDs and turned out backfired on us. Malaysia has a good draw but still unable to capitlize it. If we don't win any medal in Individual event then ... (don't know what to say anymore)




I was browsing around in that 4 Astro Channels but no sight of the MAS vs KOR match... till I switched to TV1 ..and it was Hafiz who was playing (shucks! should have switched channel earlier).

Since the commentator is from TV1, I find it funny.. cuz' at one point when Sung Hwan was scratching his head.. the commentator said 'oh.. garu kepala pulak.. yang tidak gatal'.. (oh.. scratching his head now.. tho not itchy).. and lots of other stuff he mentioned like .. when you're watching such a match, make sure you got no cups and saucers in front of you or you'll kill them. and that such a match is not for the faint hearted.

It was indeed... very kan cheong... but.. I feel geram at the same time. Cuz' Hafiz was like so slumber. And to my horror, the commentator mentioned that Chong Wei and Fairuz/Woon Fui already lost..

After a relief sigh... comes KKK & TBH... and I was kinda upset with them. They made a lot of silly mistakes. I still think that they're not that ready yet to be partners in such big tournament. They can't communicate well.. they tend to go after the shuttle together... and lost.... :(

[Baderz_Jas]

Yeah, this is exactly what I predicted, Luluk/Yulianto would win 1st set easily because more familiar with the court, but Guo/Xie would execute afterwards




Got this one correct too


Exactly as I predicted :D :D :D


Got this right again


What a prediction! I have to kowtow to myself

well done :D I will kowtow to you too :D lol :D :p

[Baderz_Jas]

dream on..............
no players can match lin dan's consistency and i think lin dan looked as if he is playing a warm up match because he didnt really smash much..
on the other hand, taufik looked as if he is really gonna cry when lin dan started drifting away from the pts.

he was gonna cry :eek: like this :crying: :D just joking :p must see this match :p just joking again :o :)

[hcpoirot]

So quiet here today. SF team matcehes involving Malaysia , China and Indonesia usually draws a lot of BC members. But not today, only 9 pages or so. :)

Tomorrow probably will be more quiet?

[Han]

well....nvr really seen the LCW and 1st doubles....but it's very disappointing....LWF/fairuz had a chance to close it out in the 2nd when they were leading 20-18....instead they let the opponents grab 4 points in a row...
as for hafiz....1st game was total domination....2nd game as always....he tried to play the fancy shots and lost it....3rd game he picked up paced late in the game and won ....
KKK/TBH.....gosh....TBH was making most of the mistakes....KKK made some mistakes while trying to play fancy shots....teamwork wasn't very good....they also had a chance to play the rubber but they blew it...they wasted lots of big leads and always let their opponents come back....
disappointed....hope better things will happen in the individuals

LWF/Fairuz is still a young pair, I think they will make big impact in Malaysia future badminton. I am not so sure about KKK/TBH as both are very unstable and inconsistent, I think putting one of them with Chan Chong Ming makes sense until they are more mature. KKK/CCM would have better chance to win in Asian Games and what a screw up to split them and put in a scratch pair. Anyway, we can only hope for the best and continue to support our fellow Malaysians.
As for why Lee Chong Wei lost, who knows? Pressure too much being world #1 and lost in WC is understandable and now still lost being world #2 and supposedly less pressure as BAM has lower its medal target ... Lets hope LCW do well in Individual event and hope Mew Choo can deliver us the surprise.

[2cents]

So quiet here today. SF team matcehes involving Malaysia , China and Indonesia usually draws a lot of BC members. But not today, only 9 pages or so. :)

Tomorrow probably will be more quiet?

just opposite. It was so crowded here that the server had to crash :rolleyes:

[Baderz_Jas]

just opposite. It was so crowded here that the server had to crash :rolleyes:

then it says the site is not working (something like that :o ) :p

[2cents]

then it says the site is not working (something like that :o ) :p

right, the server was down for quite a long time. I just bought a dedicated server, maybe I can host a similar forum for you guys to use when it's down here... or we can include this server into our web farm

[hcpoirot]

Malaysia coaches probably be wiser if they change KKK/CCM pair into KKK/TBH after ASian Games over.

[hcpoirot]

LCW after playing really well first half year of 2006 and started to slipping down then. It very hard to continue playing well at each tournament specially in team event.

Reaching lots of QF or SF its not bad at all but its not as good as his previous results winning titles or at least runner up.

[DoublesPlayer]

Yep, the BC server was down for a while, that's why my posts showed up funny ...

INA had a chance to upset CHN, but probably the stamina was their biggest problem right now. I'm not sure if they can come back and do better in the individual events.

I'm surprised that MAS lost quite easily to KOR, I thought they should have won ... Rexy must be upset that both of the MD pairs lost ...

CHN will win Gold tomorrow for sure, it could be a sweep 3 - 0.

[Baderz_Jas]

LCW after playing really well first half year of 2006 and started to slipping down then. It very hard to continue playing well at each tournament specially in team event.

Reaching lots of QF or SF its not bad at all but its not as good as his previous results winning titles or at least runner up.

I agree but he did reach the final in HK Open which was in August :p hehe :D

[ctjcad]

right, the server was down for quite a long time. I just bought a dedicated server, maybe I can host a similar forum for you guys to use when it's down here... or we can include this server into our web farm
...i know kwun has been facing this "struggle" for the last yr or so..i think even with a "beefed" up server, i'm afraid it will still lag.. i myself decided to just logged in BC/BF right after the INA vs CHN tie, as i knew the BC/BF server will be so slow..and it turned out to be true..:p

Anyways, abt the idea above, it sounds interesting..although i'm not sure how will the logistics be played out or if kwun is interested in venturing that idea..:rolleyes: ;)

[ctjcad]

just some comments & queries from me:

-..well, after browsing thru this thread, all i can say is HOPEFULLY whatever tv broadcast contract BWF and another co. signed a few months ago will TRULY come to fruition next yr..Reading this thread, nearly 1/2 of the posts consist of basically people asking for live-web cast...The demand is there, literally wordwide, but it's just disappointing if we can't capture it..:p :(

- ..I wonder if there will be a 3rd place match for both Mens' and Women's..:confused:

- ..Well, i hate to say it, but i believe it's pretty much over for the MD pair of Luluk/Alvent..They've provided the INA squad of some terrific yrs, but i think it's time to call it a career(as a pair)...:p :(

- ..The Men's event Final will feature the defending champ vs. the current powerhouse...what more can one ask for??..:cool:

- ..I know the competition is not over, but I wonder where will the next Asian Games be held?? Will it be in M'sia next time??..:confused:

[DoublesPlayer]

ctjcad,

I'm trying to answer your questions:
- There will be no 3rd place match, at least it's not on the schedule.
- Agree, Luluk is done, he's the problem, Alvent will play with other player, don't know who.
- Next Asian Games will be in Guangzhou, CHN.


just some comments & queries from me:

-..well, after browsing thru this thread, all i can say is HOPEFULLY whatever tv broadcast contract BWF and another co. signed a few months ago will TRULY come to fruition next yr..Reading this thread, nearly 1/2 of the posts consist of basically people asking for live-web cast...The demand is there, literally wordwide, but it's just disappointing if we can't capture it..:p :(

- ..I wonder if there will be a 3rd place match for both Mens' and Women's..:confused:

- ..Well, i hate to say it, but i believe it's pretty much over for the MD pair of Luluk/Alvent..They've provided the INA squad of some terrific yrs, but i think it's time to call it a career(as a pair)...:p :(

- ..The Men's event Final will feature the defending champ vs. the current powerhouse...what more can one ask for??..:cool:

- ..I know the competition is not over, but I wonder where will the next Asian Games be held?? Will it be in M'sia next time??..:confused:

[bzhang1108]

First of all, No offense to any Malaysian fans. But I really think Malaysian players are mentally too weak. I reached this conclusion after seeing the malaysian team's performance in the numerous tournaments in the past couple of years. They always failed to deliver at big times. Technicalwise, I think Malaysian players are at least as good (if not better than) as China/Korean players. They just lack the mental toughness to fight to death at the critical stage of the match. Chinese and Korean player are really good at this. Badminton (actually all the sports events) at the level these players compete is not just about technique, phisical fitness. It is more about strong mind and determination to fight to death while keeping calm and focused. I wonder if this has something to do with the culture. In chinese culture, people are taught that they should make whatever sacrifice, endure any hardship to realize their life goals. For the players, the life goal is to be the winners in all matches. Korean has a similar culture as China. Korean players are actually famous for their fighting spirits in all sports events. I do not know anything about Malaysian culture, but what I have witnessed so far really makes me think the highest priorty for Malaysian badminton team is to help its players to be mentally tough...

[ctjcad]

DoublesPlayer, thanks for replying to my queries..:cool:

ctjcad,

I'm trying to answer your questions:
- There will be no 3rd place match, at least it's not on the schedule.
- Agree, Luluk is done, he's the problem, Alvent will play with other player, don't know who.
..should've seen it coming few months ago.:( :p ..anyways, me think PBSI has been generous...and now maybe it's time for Luluk to come to the states and join the rest of the Pelatnas fraternity(ie. Angie, Mona, Tony, Halim, Chandra)..hehe:p :D ;):cool:

- Next Asian Games will be in Guangzhou, CHN.
..i shudder..:p .but the next AG will be held in 2009 instead of 2008, correct?? since there will already be the reg. Olympics in the same yr..wow, back-to-back yrs for an Olympic-style event in CHN..;)

[DoublesPlayer]

I thought the next AG will be in 2010? I may be wrong.

Yeah, poor Luluk, I watched the doubles game in the group qualification, Luluk was just too nervous and made all the mistakes, Alvent was so upset at him. I'm not sure why he could drop that badly suddently.


DoublesPlayer, thanks for replying to my queries..:cool:

..should've seen it coming few months ago.:( :p ..anyways, me think PBSI has been generous...and now maybe it's time for Luluk to come to the states and join the rest of the Pelatnas fraternity(ie. Angie, Mona, Tony, Halim, Chandra)..hehe:p :D ;):cool:

..i shudder..:p .but the next AG will be held in 2009 instead of 2008, correct?? since there will already be the reg. Olympics in the same yr..wow, back-to-back yrs for an Olympic-style event in CHN..;)

[Han]

First of all, No offense to any Malaysian fans. But I really think Malaysian players are mentally too weak. I reached this conclusion after seeing the malaysian team's performance in the numerous tournaments in the past couple of years. They always failed to deliver at big times. Technicalwise, I think Malaysian players are at least as good (if not better than) as China/Korean players. They just lack the mental toughness to fight to death at the critical stage of the match. Chinese and Korean player are really good at this. Badminton (actually all the sports events) at the level these players compete is not just about technique, phisical fitness. It is more about strong mind and determination to fight to death while keeping calm and focused. I wonder if this has something to do with the culture. In chinese culture, people are taught that they should make whatever sacrifice, endure any hardship to realize their life goals. For the players, the life goal is to be the winners in all matches. Korean has a similar culture as China. Korean players are actually famous for their fighting spirits in all sports events. I do not know anything about Malaysian culture, but what I have witnessed so far really makes me think the highest priorty for Malaysian badminton team is to help its players to be mentally tough...

You're right about the mental toughness of Malaysian players which is not as strong as Chinese and Korea. That's only part of the problems. The main problem is still accountability, most of the time players/coaches are not held accountable if fail to deliver. Yes, there's pressure and hot debate when things fail but the same players/coaches still around after that setting new goals which hardly achieve. You think Li Yungbo will still be around if Team China perform as poor as Malaysia during the past few years or the same players still be playing? No way!
Having say that, Malaysia doesn't have that big pool of talents compare to China so we can't just "axe" here and there and ended up no player left :-)
Solution? None, so the Malaysian tradition continues, good enough to be in class A but not good enough to win(still not bad if you think the glass is half full):D

[derict]

You're right about the mental toughness of Malaysian players which is not as strong as Chinese and Korea. That's only part of the problems. The main problem is still accountability, most of the time players/coaches are not held accountable if fail to deliver. Yes, there's pressure and hot debate when things fail but the same players/coaches still around after that setting new goals which hardly achieve. You think Li Yungbo will still be around if Team China perform as poor as Malaysia during the past few years or the same players still be playing? No way!
Having say that, Malaysia doesn't have that big pool of talents compare to China so we can't just "axe" here and there and ended up no player left :-)
Solution? None, so the Malaysian tradition continues, good enough to be in class A but not good enough to win(still not bad if you think the glass is half full):D

I believe this is really partly due to the culture, I can feel it as I am a malaysian too.

[Jessica]

Yup...you all are right.....the mental of mas players are really weak compared to the other countries players especially korea..We can see from yesterday matches cleary, korea and mas skills are equally but the different is with the mental toughest...A player with good skills but weak mental is not counted a excellent player..So,Mas team have to think of some solution to solve this problem..If not,don't blame me to say Mas would never have a chance to take gold medal..

[twdc08]

omg...bronze again....very disappointed with team malaysia`s performance yesterday...especially tazari/lin were holding 2 match points in second set,nevertheless they lost to korean 20-22....

[cooler]

UPDATED: 10:52, December 05, 2006
China, S. Korea set badminton team final clash at Doha Asiad

Powerhouses China and South Korea won over Indonesia and Malaysia respectively on Monday to set a final clash in the badminton men's team event at the Doha Asian Games.

Spearheaded by world No. 1 Lin Dan, the Chinese shuttlers smashed the Indonesian peers again just as they did in the group stage.

Although Lin trailed 12-16 in the opening set, the 23-year-old world champion fought back by collecting six points in a row.

After winning the first set 22-20, Lin encountered an extremely active Taufik and quickly lost the second game 21-13.

In the rubber set, Lin, nicknamed "Super Dan" taking advantage of his rival's lack of strength, knocked off the Athens Olympic champion 21-12.

"My opponent and I are both in form," said Lin after winning the heart-stirring duel. "I won because I trained hard for the Asian Games and I was relaxed during the fight."

Cai Yun and Fu Haifeng, doubles event winner at this year's Madrid World Championships, lost to Markis Kido and Hendra Setiawan 14-21, 21-18, 16-21.

Afterwards, Asian Games rookie Chen Jin took a sweet revenge by beating Simon Santoso 21-19, 16-21, 21-14 in the third game. The 20-year-old Chen lost to Santoso 14-21, 8-21 on Saturday.

Chen disputed with the umpire for controversial line calls several times and received a yellow card. "I felt that the umpire was a little biased against me.

In the fourth game, Xie Zhongbo and Guo Zhendong sealed the win for China by beating Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto Chandra 6-21, 21-6 and 21-16.

South Korea blew off mighty Malaysia 3-1, only Athens Olympic silver medallist Park Sung Hwan losing to Hashim Muhammad Hafiz 12- 21, 21-11, 17-21.

In the women's part, China swept South Korea, defending champion China trampled South Korea 3-0 through efforts of top two singles Zhang Ning, Xie Xingfang and world No.1 doubles pair Gao Ling and Huang Sui.

Athens Olympic champion Zhang Ning showed no sign of age in front of 21-year-old Lee Yun Hwa, 10 years younger than Zhang. Zhang knocked off Lee 21-14 and 21-7 in 19 minutes.

Li Yongbo, the Chinese badminton team's head coach, thought the unbeatable Chinese women's lineup had not face any challenges at the Asian Games.

"The South Korean shuttlers looked tired today as they had to play two matches yesterday to take the last semifinal berth. Besides, they might thought that it was impossible to defeat their Chinese peers, so they weren't aggressive at all."

In Monday's first semifinal, Japan, unexpectedly edging South Korea in the group stage, finished off Singapore 3-0.

The clash between Japan and China is going to be held on Tuesday." Japan is stronger than South Korea," said Li Yongbo.


Source: Xinhua

[cooler]

UPDATED: 10:52, December 05, 2006
China, S. Korea set badminton team final clash at Doha Asiad

Powerhouses China and South Korea won over Indonesia and Malaysia respectively on Monday to set a final clash in the badminton men's team event at the Doha Asian Games.

Spearheaded by world No. 1 Lin Dan, the Chinese shuttlers smashed the Indonesian peers again just as they did in the group stage.

Although Lin trailed 12-16 in the opening set, the 23-year-old world champion fought back by collecting six points in a row.

After winning the first set 22-20, Lin encountered an extremely active Taufik and quickly lost the second game 21-13.

In the rubber set, Lin, nicknamed "Super Dan" taking advantage of his rival's lack of strength, knocked off the Athens Olympic champion 21-12.

"My opponent and I are both in form," said Lin after winning the heart-stirring duel. "I won because I trained hard for the Asian Games and I was relaxed during the fight."

Cai Yun and Fu Haifeng, doubles event winner at this year's Madrid World Championships, lost to Markis Kido and Hendra Setiawan 14-21, 21-18, 16-21.

Afterwards, Asian Games rookie Chen Jin took a sweet revenge by beating Simon Santoso 21-19, 16-21, 21-14 in the third game. The 20-year-old Chen lost to Santoso 14-21, 8-21 on Saturday.

Chen disputed with the umpire for controversial line calls several times and received a yellow card. "I felt that the umpire was a little biased against me.

In the fourth game, Xie Zhongbo and Guo Zhendong sealed the win for China by beating Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto Chandra 6-21, 21-6 and 21-16.

South Korea blew off mighty Malaysia 3-1, only Athens Olympic silver medallist Park Sung Hwan losing to Hashim Muhammad Hafiz 12- 21, 21-11, 17-21.

In the women's part, China swept South Korea, defending champion China trampled South Korea 3-0 through efforts of top two singles Zhang Ning, Xie Xingfang and world No.1 doubles pair Gao Ling and Huang Sui.

Athens Olympic champion Zhang Ning showed no sign of age in front of 21-year-old Lee Yun Hwa, 10 years younger than Zhang. Zhang knocked off Lee 21-14 and 21-7 in 19 minutes.

Li Yongbo, the Chinese badminton team's head coach, thought the unbeatable Chinese women's lineup had not face any challenges at the Asian Games.

"The South Korean shuttlers looked tired today as they had to play two matches yesterday to take the last semifinal berth. Besides, they might thought that it was impossible to defeat their Chinese peers, so they weren't aggressive at all."

In Monday's first semifinal, Japan, unexpectedly edging South Korea in the group stage, finished off Singapore 3-0.

The clash between Japan and China is going to be held on Tuesday." Japan is stronger than South Korea," said Li Yongbo.


Source: Xinhua

[kenny7_2006]

am i seeing double? hehe... nice review of yesterday's action....

[Joel_y]

UPDATED: 10:52, December 05, 2006
...
South Korea blew off mighty Malaysia 3-1, only Athens Olympic silver medallist Park Sung Hwan losing to Hashim Muhammad Hafiz 12- 21, 21-11, 17-21.
...
Source: Xinhua

XinHua reporters rarely made mistakes like this... :o

[cooler]

XinHua reporters rarely made mistakes like this... :o
yah, and mistake like below too. LD beat TH 21-16 on the 3rd set.

In the rubber set, Lin, nicknamed "Super Dan" taking advantage of his rival's lack of strength, knocked off the Athens Olympic champion 21-12.

[bananaboy]

yah, and mistake like below too. LD beat TH 21-16 on the 3rd set.

In the rubber set, Lin, nicknamed "Super Dan" taking advantage of his rival's lack of strength, knocked off the Athens Olympic champion 21-12.

It showed 21-12 for Lin Dan in the 3rd game in the offical Doha website.

[NgauNgau]

8 PM Malaysia time

Thank you, that means Astro will broadcast it live at 8pm today right? I don't what's going on with the Astro guide, it's stated that the Men's Team Semi-Finals will start today at 2pm live!!!

[Han]

Thank you, that means Astro will broadcast it live at 8pm today right? I don't what's going on with the Astro guide, it's stated that the Men's Team Semi-Finals will start today at 2pm live!!!

I think it's a delay version, not LIVE.

[barbara]

Another disappoinment show from Malaysia...hmmm:(

[NgauNgau]

I think it's a delay version, not LIVE.

I know, that's why I don't know what's going on with Astro...

[Han]

I know, that's why I don't know what's going on with Astro...

Appearently the time slot of SF was taken by other sports event. I was told RTM1 was showing LIVE between MAS vs KOR , didn't matter, we lost anyway. I think we will do well in Individual event as players know someone will have to take the blame if they fail miserably again. If my memory serve me right, this is the most talented Malaysia team ever assembled with LCW, Hafiz and WCH plus two supposedly very dangerous MDs ... What went wrong again? Always a mystery to me.

[abedeng]

It does seem to me that LCW, Taufik and LHI are not actually at their best, so the MS title looks to go Chinese way again. LCW lost against LHI, who wasn't really inspiring himself, losing to Nguyen of Vietnam a few days ago. Taufik cannot stay in 3rd game against LD.

I liked the way the Viets and Indians played though, really inspiring though let down by experience.

As for MD, it is still open season, the Chinese, Indonesians and Koreans have equal opportunity, with Malaysia slightly behind (due to using experimental pairs). Well, I suppose we had to rebuild somewhere ....

Does that answer your question, Han?

[nugroho]

TH was at his best.. his perform was really good.. it's just lin dan who played better yesterday... taufik stamina was also good during the match yesterday... you guys should try to watch it.. it's worth to watch that match, well actualy overall the semis between INA and CHN in all of the match was exciting. from MS1, MD1, MS2, MD2. all of them are very entertaining.....

[ctjcad]

TH was at his best.. his perform was really good.. it's just lin dan who played better yesterday... taufik stamina was also good during the match yesterday... you guys should try to watch it.. it's worth to watch that match, well actualy overall the semis between INA and CHN in all of the match was exciting. from MS1, MD1, MS2, MD2. all of them are very entertaining.....
..indra must've gotten some pretty good heart pounding exercise last night..:p probably sitting at the edge of his sofa the whole 4 matches..:rolleyes: ;)
first, taufik lost in a 3 sets thriller...sad..
then, markis/hendra won in another 3 setters...happy..
and then, simon lost in another 3 setters...sad..
and finally, after hoping for a comeback, alvent/luluk just tore indra's hope down the drain, losing in another 3 setters...:p ;)

[bananaboy]

..indra must've gotten some pretty good heart pounding exercise last night..:p probably sitting at the edge of his sofa the whole 4 matches..:rolleyes: ;)
first, taufik lost in a 3 sets thriller...sad..
then, markis/hendra won in another 3 setters...happy..
and then, simon lost in another 3 setters...sad..
and finally, after hoping for a comeback, alvent/luluk just tore indra's hope down the drain, losing in another 3 setters...:p ;)
Don't worry, expect Indra to recurrect in a few days to give us some more exciting predictions. Somehow, I can feel a prediction of Simon vs Taufik in the MS final coming soon...:D

This guy is more consistent than all the Malaysian fans add together... when was the last time you saw a post by any Malaysian fans that has a prediction of Hafiz vs LCW in a MS final??? I used to think Malaysia has the most die-hard badminton fans until the appearance of Indra.

[**KZ**]

Thank you, that means Astro will broadcast it live at 8pm today right? I don't what's going on with the Astro guide, it's stated that the Men's Team Semi-Finals will start today at 2pm live!!!

the doha website caused it....I saw the website few days ago and they listed the semis on tuesday....so maybe astro got it all planned out until they changed the time again few days ago

[ctjcad]

Don't worry, expect Indra to recurrect in a few days to give us some more exciting predictions. Somehow, I can feel a prediction of Simon vs Taufik in the MS final coming soon...:D
..hmm, i think what indra meant to predict the other day was an INA sweep in the *Individual competition*..not the *Team event* competition..
I think he got a bit excited, got "clouded" by his excitement and predicted the wrong event..:rolleyes: :p ;)

[bananaboy]

..hmm, i think what indra meant to predict the other day was an INA sweep in the *Individual competition*..not the *Team event* competition..
I think he got a bit excited, got "clouded" by his excitement and predicted the wrong event..:rolleyes: :p ;)

You mean he expects the Indo's women players to beat the likes of ZN and XXF and take the individual golds this year, too??? If that happens, I am changing my login name from "bananaboy" to "eat.banana".:p:p:p

[ctjcad]

You mean he expects the Indo's women players to beat the likes of ZN and XXF and take the individual golds this year, too??? If that happens, I am changing my login name from "bananaboy" to "eat.banana".:p:p:p
...he'll probably predict Taufik will win the MS event, even if Taufik is hobbling on 1 leg..:p ;)

[bananaboy]

...he'll probably predict Taufik will win the MS event, even if Taufik is hobbling on 1 leg..:p ;)
If LD is playing while hobbling on one leg... I would bet all my fortune in any underground gambling place that "He will LOSE!!!":p:p:p unless he's playing against me... I am afraid Lin Dan could still save my continuous smashes with his diving saves!!! wait, he doesn't do them anymore.

[Jessica]

When come to single event,it is hard to predict...Everyone has equally chances but the edge is with Lin Dan...In this moment, i think everyone has to admit that LD is really upon every player no matter taufik, LCW LHl or PG.......I think if taufik really wanna win,prove us with his action...As you all see cleary,he lose two time to LD in the men team...Although i am not doubting his talent and skills but i would still betting LD to win....He is still unbeatable this moment...Hopefully LCW can do something because he is the only one i see can fight with LD but with his yesterday easily lose to LHl,i really hope he can perform well in the single event..So ,let wait and see..

[bananaboy]

Hopefully LCW can do something because he is the only one i see can fight with LD but with his yesterday easily lose to LHl,i really hope he can perform well in the single event..So ,let wait and see..

I hope you mean the only one outside of the China national team... Chen Hong gave Lin Dan more problems than LCW has ever done so before, or anyone for that matter. Just look at the facial expression when Lin Dan had to play Chen Hong...not as confident as usual for sure.

But if you are just looking at this Asian game, then you may be right... as Bao is not as good as LD from my perspective, but many may argue. As Taufik, LHI, Hafiz does not stand a very good chance against Lin Dan... wait...why did I even mention Hafiz..hahaha... he stands no chance against Lin Dan...

[woodenRacket]

if LD does not collapse himself, the medal is his.

[CLELY]

Tim Merah Putih have given their bests, CHN won yesterday but all 4 matches must finished in rubber game and tight-score. Bronze is still better than zero according INA's unfavourable drawing!

Different story about MAS's flop performance when defeated 3-1 by KOR. MAS's lost-signal appeared after LCW fail to overcame Hyun-Il. KOR traditionally is always having strong MD but weak in MS and MAS didn't use it effectively to grab 3 points from MS. Mental toughness, that's MAS problem esp.LCW as road-opener!

[woodenRacket]

a gold medal for LD:
player of the year

and another medal for our Indra:
the most consistent fan of the year
:D :D

[Baderz_Jas]

a gold medal for LD:
player of the year

and another medal for our Indra:
the most consistent fan of the year
:D :D

:D consistent fan of TH and INA :D