Guys I think this time it is really worth discussing, since this is LD's first loss in team event after he became 1st single. And also LHI is not the guy ppl expect to beat LD.

It seems to me:

1. LHI successfully took the 1st game from LD AND with some energy left. Many ppl are able to beat LD in the 1st game by being very aggressive. But then they do not have enough energy left in the rest of the games. Taufik is currently the only one who has the ability to beat LD in 2 games (CH used to have this ability, but now he is kind of too old), but he failed to take the 1st game and his energy is not enough for 3 games.

2. First game lost, LD is forced to come back storming in the 2nd game. There is nothing LHI can do about this. The key is that he did not panick (compare to JJS/LYD, when Cai/Fu exploded and caught up in the 1st game, they lost their confidence). He cleverly started to fight at the end of the 2nd game, when LD was somewhat tired (LD is still human). He did very well at the end of the 2nd game and totally got back his form and confidence.

3. In the 3rd game, LD did not have enough energy to explode all the way like in the 2nd game. LHI hit the shuttle to all four corners of the court to further tire LD up. LHI showed great technique and fabulous defence during the 3rd game, moving LD all around the court, forcing LD to smash in very bad positions. Finally LD lost his confidence (for the first time since last year's WC) and made a bunch of errors.

So, I don't know how but seems LHI improved by half a level and is now among the top 3 (with LD and Taufik). LCW hasn't recovered from the WC loss and Gade is no longer the Gade 7 years, or even 3 years ago.

Finally about who can beat LD and how. CH used to be the only one who can beat LD by power attacking. Taufik used to be able to beat LD by moving him around using superb technique, especially backhand shots (you have to be able to continue dominating and manoevering LD even when you are forced to play backhand shots, PG fails here). LCW almost beated LD using defence (HK open). Now LHI joined the club and beated LD IN TEAM EVENT combining what Taufik did and what LCW did.

Congrats to number one! ( I heard some Korean ppl calling LHI "number one" during 05 WC, dont know why though).

cause he have a good performance and found LD 's weakness.

Simply because LHI did his homework well! Being able to beat LCW and then LD in a row, his form is just superb. He use to lose easily to both players this year, but im sure he studied their game hard enough during the few months. Congrats to LHI!

Good performance EARNED him this win, all hands down.

No offense, i wonder if his lost to the Veitnamese player is a fake? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Or maybe its a strategy from the coaches?

well..for me..above all things....this proves that LD is still a human too...so he is not unbeatable....:D :cool: congrats to LHI.....u've done very well:)

cause he have a good performance and found LD 's weakness.

I always supported Lee Hyun Ill from the start(before he had injuries). He has very good skills and an unbelievable amount of stamina as is left handed like me :).
I knew he had it in him to beat Lin Dan, but was surprised it came at such a good timing.
Three cheers for LYI!
I hope Lin Dan improves further(not be complacent) to maintain his dominance as it will only get tougher ahead with more money and incentives involved in the super series in 2007. If not, we shall see more players beating him soon.
I hope this will improve the quality of the games we shall see in the near future.

LHI's form has been great since WC. In fact he lost to BCL partly because of bad luck (3 dubious calls in 4 points).

Simply because LHI did his homework well! Being able to beat LCW and then LD in a row, his form is just superb. He use to lose easily to both players this year, but im sure he studied their game hard enough during the few months. Congrats to LHI!

LD will have a chance to re-match in the individual event, they may meet in the QF.

I didn't watch the game between LD and LHI, I wish I did, so that I can give my perspective ... if anyone has the video, please kindly share it ... :cool: :)

This should be two separate posts. I know LD and TH would demand it. ;)

:p :D :D

Congrats to LHI!

Congrats to Lee Hyun Il, rarely see Lin Dan get beaten in this kind of situation....

BTW, reloaded this page a few times, and everytime there's a new post... wow u guys and gals are fast!

Lee Hyun Ill really played well. I'm not suprised that He beat LCW also.

If you want to beat Lin Dan, you must win the 1st set and have enough energy for the 3rd set.
If you lose to Lin Dan in the 1st set, the probability to win the game is very very low.
This is what I found from the statistics.

This is one of the few times that i have seen LD tired in the third set... probably because of the two consecutive exhausting match with TH... even if TH won against LD, TH wouldn't stand a chance against LHI's stamina...

I don't think it's stamina. LD was very frustrated towards the end of the 3rd game. The possibility that he may no longer be a 100% reliable 1st single made him more exhausted than the game itself I guess.

This is one of the few times that i have seen LD tired in the third set... probably because of the two consecutive exhausting match with TH... even if TH won against LD, TH wouldn't stand a chance against LHI's stamina...

In my opinion, LHI is a more stable player compared to LD..
"On form LHI" able to perform less unforce error compared to LD..
LHI net control is much better than LD during that match..

So conclusion is LD just made too much unforce error during that match as mentioned LYB few minutes ago during post match interview:)

you guys should now that some players have a VERY PEAK FORM..may be it is LHI's day...LD is doing well eventhough he played alot...like 2 times 3 sets against TH...sometimes..even yu are the bEST...you may have a very bad hair day and you can suddenly BLANK for no reason but remember that Korean players are known very Stubborn and China is always afraid of Korean's fighting spirit...look at recently Junior WC where they are bleeding to win matches..it is amazing !!!...I think LD, CH< CJ, BCL,PG TH, LHI and LCW are top players...depending whose mentally is ready...all are beatable at any time at any day

LD has said previously (IE two years ago) that LHI is the type of player he hates to play against.

LD Likes to control the pace of the game and alter from the slow defensive game to the attaking game to finish the rallies. LHI isa total control player and so LD cannot slow him down anymore, and when LD tries to increase the pace with a shot then LHI slows it down again.

I have not seen the game but from LD style and how hee likes to play is not conducive to playing LHI. Sure LHI has lost many times to LD but he has also had some long drawn out games with him. This time he happened to win it.

As a matter of fact, in WC2005, Lin Dan was really tired up by quarter final with LYII (2:1) and then by PG (2:1) before the final game. That's how he lost so badly to TH.

When I was watching LD play against LYII in WC2005, I could feel his frustration overLYII being so patient and well-defended.

congrats to LHI on beating LD :crying: sad and suprised :D :p 1st time LD lost in team matches when he's 1st singles :( I hope it will never happen again :D

In my opinion, LHI is a more stable player compared to LD..
"On form LHI" able to perform less unforce error compared to LD..
LHI net control is much better than LD during that match..

So conclusion is LD just made too much unforce error during that match as mentioned LYB few minutes ago during post match interview:)
congrats to LHI on the win, but i will kindly disagree with the first statement. what LD has accomplished, how he has come back from Malaysia 2006 by beating LCW 3 consecutive times, and winning WC2006 clearly shows that LD is not unstable but most likely much more stable than LHI.

please don't forget, LD is human ;)

congrats to LHI on the win, but i will kindly disagree with the first statement. what LD has accomplished, how he has come back from Malaysia 2006 by beating LCW 3 consecutive times, and winning WC2006 clearly shows that LD is not unstable but most likely much more stable than LHI.

please don't forget, LD is human ;)
oh sorry regarding that, let me clarify.. stable as in he doesn't do wild shots like LD, he isn't a risk taking player.. he does his usual basic stuff or you can say plain boring stuff :D

Congrats LHI, he played really well. He deserved the win. Keep it up.

All I have to say about the match was, thank god I don't have any heart problem or I might faint. :) .. Never expected him to beat Lin dan, now I know that LCW was beaten by an improved LHI. Congrats to LHI and to the korean team - respect.

please don't forget, LD is human ;)

Seriously. I don't see what is the big deal why LD lost to LHI. LHI is very proficient in all aspects of the game.

How about we just say LD lost because LHI played better this time?

Isn't that enough? :rolleyes:

It should be. :)

What comes up.. must go down someday. We also cannot expect Lindan to stay up forever. Even Superman have to land.

The best has yet to come as Lin Dan did make such comment later :
林丹说，“没事，等我半决赛再修理他（李铉一）。”
Tranlate to "No matter, I will fix him(Li Hyun Il) up in semi"
Now we not only have LD vs TH, also have LD vs LHL and don't forget if LCW is lucky enough to get that far then there will be LD vs LCW. What a drama!
Source article is from :
http://sports.sina.com.cn/doha2006/o/2006-12-06/08142614289.shtml

LHI just played a better game than LD who just sucked. I was very impressed by LHI's wrist smash the time I saw him play, it was really deadly and sudden and could catch anyone off guard.

Lee HI played very well today, and on the other side of coin is: Lin Dan spent a lot of time study TH and did not pay enough attention, did not do enough homework for the match against Lee HI, plus a little bad luck in the first set ending period when he had 3 game points and did not converge. Any one of these did not happen, Lin Dan would still win the match. As for how good Lee HI really is against Lin Dan, in a few days, Men single semi final could provide some hints...

LHI did a fantastic job and he really deserved the win. Anyway, team China still won both men's and women's team event.

:D

Well i believe i was the first person to vote for LHI in WC2006 Poll :cool:
My reason was i noticed he was performing better lately and expected the trend to continue. True enough, he was the only Non China player to make it to the WC2006 semis (He beat CJ in the quaters).

Well my horse seems to be doing well this Asian Games. Better late than never i suppose. :p

On a technical aspect, i noticed LHI is being extra aggresive at the net. Those extremely risky tight net spins / tumbles seem to be paying off for LHI so far.

Cheers TBBMBB(N)

Given all credits to LHI first.

Then LYI won because he beat LD in reaching 21 points first in 2 sets...LD lost because LYI beat LD in reaching 21 points first in 2 sets... that should answer the question.

All LD responsed was that he will win against LHI in the semi-finals, I just hope they both can make it that far for another encounter.:p According to Indra's usual prediction, Simon will come out from that quarter and face Taufik in the finals.:eek::p:p Therefore, no rematch for LD and LHI...LOL.

Ya...i watch the report in the sina web...But seem like not many people like LD...After the news,some peoples keep commenting him and say he is arrogant...They also hate LYB...

Ya...i watch the report in the sina web...But seem like not many people like LD...After the news,some peoples keep commenting him and say he is arrogant...They also hate LYB...
I understand what you mean, but...

People hate winners... bottom line. Jealousy, envy, and all the other things are ugly.

How is LD arrogant for saying he wants to "beat or fix up" LHI next time when they meet??? Compare to Taufik saying he just gave the Indian 1st singles player a "training lesson"???:rolleyes: LD's choice of words??? He ain't an university language facuility graduate, you know...

I can understand why people hate LYB for he is beating the crap out of all the other "badminton" countries... and people accuse him for fixing matches, but like "if other countries players can eliminate the Chinese early, how is LYB suppose to fix any match which does not involve 2 Chinese players standing across from the court??? You can't blame LYB for continuously producing ALL-CHINA semi's and ALL-CHINA finals... it's the other players' faults for losing." If they don't like it from happening, try beating them in the game with a racket, not by using mouth or the keyboard.:p

Ah....finally LD is beaten.....I've been waitin for this for awhile....
LHI just played better yesterday....LD was makin mistake after mistake at the end of the game....sending shuttles out of court and making net errors...
LHI bt LCW in 41 min and needed just 5 minutes more to finish up LD

Given all credits to LHI first.

Then LYI won because he beat LD in reaching 21 points first in 2 sets...LD lost because LYI beat LD in reaching 21 points first in 2 sets... that should answer the question.

All LD responsed was that he will win against LHI in the semi-finals, I just hope they both can make it that far for another encounter.:p According to Indra's usual prediction, Simon will come out from that quarter and face Taufik in the finals.:eek::p:p Therefore, no rematch for LD and LHI...LOL.

Don't day-dream please....:D LD vs LHI will never happen:D :D

How come....? the Simon factor is the reason....China's secret is at his hand already...

Not only Lin Dan, Fu / Cai will also meet the same fate...Markis/Hendra 'the undertaker' are preparing and arranging their [Fu/Cai] "funerals"...:D

Congrats ! LHI! you played well this time.:)


Lee HI played very well today, and on the other side of coin is: Lin Dan spent a lot of time study TH and did not pay enough attention, did not do enough homework for the match against Lee HI, plus a little bad luck in the first set ending period when he had 3 game points and did not converge. Any one of these did not happen, Lin Dan would still win the match. As for how good Lee HI really is against Lin Dan, in a few days, Men single semi final could provide some hints...

good points. :) maybe deep in his mind LD never regards LHI as one of his major opponents. he pays too much attention to TH and overlooks LHI. that's why he lost 5 points randomly when he is leading 20:17, and a little bad luck indeed.

"People hate winners... bottom line. Jealousy, envy, and all the other things are ugly."

You are wrong, buddy. Most people don't hate winners if they are humble and graceful like Candra Wijiya, Tony Gunawan, and Kim Dong Moon. I don't know if Lin Dan is intentionally showing his arrogance but he does display it (through his gestures and body language) more often than most top players. And it becomes uglier if he does not win, which is usually not the case as he is a dominant player at the moment.


"How is LD arrogant for saying he wants to "beat or fix up" LHI next time when they meet??? Compare to Taufik saying he just gave the Indian 1st singles player a "training lesson"???:rolleyes: LD's choice of words??? He ain't an university language facuility graduate, you know...

Although I dislike of Lin Dan's attitudes at times, I don't think there is anything wrong with saying those words this time. He is just restoring his confidence and maybe stir up a little frustration and anger in LHI for the rematch if they both go through. It's the same as if you tell your friend that you will beat him in a car race to induce him to his maximum performance.

Also remember, these are the words coming from another person, in this case the media/reporter so don't solely believe it as they are from the original author.

Don't day-dream please....:D LD vs LHI will never happen:D :D

How come....? the Simon factor is the reason....China's secret is at his hand already...

Not only Lin Dan, Fu / Cai will also meet the same fate...Markis/Hendra 'the undertaker' are preparing and arranging their [Fu/Cai] "funerals"...:D

i really admire your optimism and bold predictions :D

and i really hope i could be as optimistic as you in other aspects in life :(

could you please kindly share with us how to be not affected by the cruel facts? i just wish we all be happy all the time :D

You are wrong, buddy. Most people don't hate winners if they are humble and graceful like Candra Wijiya, Tony Gunawan, and Kim Dong Moon. I don't know if Lin Dan is intentionally showing his arrogance but he does display it (through his gestures and body language) more often than most top players. And it becomes uglier if he does not win, which is usually not the case as he is a dominant player at the moment.
LOL... I meant most People hate winners, not all...:p

However, in today's sports world, you don't always find winners that are humble and graceful anymore... and even if they are humble and graceful, somehow they don't receive as much rewards financially for some reason(except Roger.F and Tiger woods)... look at Tony Gunawan whom has accomplished more than almost all players in badminton history... he had to move to a foreign country, find a job to support his family after huge success in badminton. Then you look at the arrogant Taufik, whom only won the so-called "big titles" and he is far better off than Tony. Gunawan financially.

However, I have to say that Tony.G has his reward in a different way in that I would go as far to say all badminton fans who know badminton well, do have alot of respect in Tony for being one the best, and humble player in history.:D

Tony for being one the best, and humble player in history.:D

100% agree!!!!!

Don't day-dream please....:D LD vs LHI will never happen:D :D

How come....? the Simon factor is the reason....China's secret is at his hand already...

Not only Lin Dan, Fu / Cai will also meet the same fate...Markis/Hendra 'the undertaker' are preparing and arranging their [Fu/Cai] "funerals"...:D

Oh my goodness, it's Indra telling me not to day-dream... I feel so guilty now...:(

How about a bet, Indra??? If Simon beats LD in this AG, I change my login name from "bananaboy" to "eat.banana":p... if Simon loses to LD in this AG, you change your login name from "Indra" to "Idiot":p... If they don't get to play against each other, then we won't have the bet... but I lose if the final is Simon vs Taufik to give you an advantage.... how does that sound???:p:D:D:D

100% agree!!!!!
First time, we agree on one thing... I am so happy...:D:D:D I guess that makes it official that Tony.G is one of the best in badminton history now.

LOL... I meant most People hate winners, not all...:p



No, I still think most people don't hate winners unless they are too blinded by patriotism and fanaticsm for their own players/countries (such as our own Indra) and of course if they are not graceful and humble.

For instance I favor some players (Peter Gade, Chen Hong, & our 2004-2005 Taufik) over others but I am still happy if, say, Wong Choong Hann beats Peter Gade.

Although I favor some players over others I am still happy if, say, Wong Choong Hann beats Peter Gade.

NOOOO... Peter Gade can not lose to anyone beside me!!! LOL...:p:D:D:D

No, I still think most people don't hate winners unless they are too blinded by patriotism and fanaticsm for their own players/countries (such as our own Indra) and of course if they are not graceful and humble.

For instance I favor some players (Peter Gade, Chen Hong, & our 2004-2005 Taufik) over others but I am still happy if, say, Wong Choong Hann beats Peter Gade.

I never hate winners....The truth about me is I ALWAYS Support Ina players/team.

I never hate winners....The truth about me is I ALWAYS Support Ina players/team.

Gee, really? I would have never thought that. ;) :p

Gee, really? I would have never thought that. ;) :p

(Laughing my ass off)

Oh Dink!

The things that i know about the final clash between Ld and LHI....

LHI played aggressively in the first game against Ld...He has a superb defence compared to Ld..He seldom do smashes in the first game,,he is just controlling the pace of the game,,using his experience to study Ld game...In the second game..from what i see...he tried to study Ld game slowly...The he launched quite alot of attack in the third game by controlling the pace....Alot of net plays ans baseline smashes....Lindan was absolutely confused over what was LHI thinking.....From my perception,thats the main points LHI sent LD off...:)..Frankly-I was damn happy when i saw Ld facial expression when he lost the match-No offence..!

not a big deal if LD loses. he is still human not superman. he also gets tired physically and mentally. when he roars after the service foul call, i know he is gonna lose.
anyway, he is still a good player, best of 2006.

i didn't make comment on this match until now after i watched it. LD coulda wrap up LHI in 2 games. A bad line call against LD at 14-12 was the moment that LHI overtake the game momentum. Imo, the shuttle landed on the line.
Also, LD had to bandage up his racket index finger at least twice (camera shots showed twice). If i have a nick on my finger, i couldn't play 100%.

Not to take away LHI credit of hard work, LHI definitely did his homework for this asian game. He is diving better than i have seen him dive before. LHI is almost like LCW but has more stamina. LCW tends to end up with an unforced error after a long rally where as LHI can sustain a long rally until LD pops an unforced error. Maybe this is the reason why LD has a harder time playing against LHI.

Indra, the thing I like about you the most is your unconditional support for TH and the rest of the Indonesian squad - regardless of whether they win or lose, or whether they display good conduct or unsportsmanlike behavior in court, etc.

There's only a handful of fans like you. A lot of the rest of us are just 'fair weather' fans.

The best has yet to come as Lin Dan did make such comment later :
林丹说，“没事，等我半决赛再修理他（李铉一）。”
Tranlate to "No matter, I will fix him(Li Hyun Il) up in semi"
Now we not only have LD vs TH, also have LD vs LHL and don't forget if LCW is lucky enough to get that far then there will be LD vs LCW. What a drama!
Source article is from :
http://sports.sina.com.cn/doha2006/o/2006-12-06/08142614289.shtml

I hope he will be able to do that :p lol :D FIX HIM! :D haha :p

The best has yet to come as Lin Dan did make such comment later :
林丹说，“没事，等我半决赛再修理他（李铉一）。”
Tranlate to "No matter, I will fix him(Li Hyun Il) up in semi"
Now we not only have LD vs TH, also have LD vs LHL and don't forget if LCW is lucky enough to get that far then there will be LD vs LCW. What a drama!
Source article is from :
http://sports.sina.com.cn/doha2006/o/2006-12-06/08142614289.shtml

Hehe, yeah so true :p. All the exciting matches are "Lin Dan vs [Insert LCW/TH/LHI Here]" :D.

Hehe, yeah so true :p. All the exciting matches are "Lin Dan vs [Insert LCW/TH/LHI Here]" :D.

Sooner, LD vs CJ another good match! :p hehe :D

I think there is nothing wrong for him to say that Markis/Hendra can beat Cai/Fu... Anyway their recent head to head is 2:2 or something like that.

It will be hard for Simon to beat LD or LHI though.

i really admire your optimism and bold predictions :D

and i really hope i could be as optimistic as you in other aspects in life :(

could you please kindly share with us how to be not affected by the cruel facts? i just wish we all be happy all the time :D

Well, I think you cannot do simple math in badminton games. LHI is a very steady and mind-strong player. Remember how he scored 5 or 6 points in a row and almost catched up BCL in WC after 3 dubious calls in 4 consecutive points (that's the biggest blow I have seen any player received from line calls)! So even if LD got that point, it doesn't mean he will reach game point at 20:15 instead of 20:17. Maybe LD would feel safe at 19:15 and lost 19:21. You never know.

My opinion is that, since LD managed to get a comfortable lead 20:17 after 14:14, the effect of the bad call is really kind of negligible.

i didn't make comment on this match until now after i watched it. LD coulda wrap up LHI in 2 games. A bad line call against LD at 14-12 was the moment that LHI overtake the game momentum. Imo, the shuttle landed on the line.
Also, LD had to bandage up his racket index finger at least twice (camera shots showed twice). If i have a nick on my finger, i couldn't play 100%.

Not to take away LHI credit of hard work, LHI definitely did his homework for this asian game. He is diving better than i have seen him dive before. LHI is almost like LCW but has more stamina. LCW tends to end up with an unforced error after a long rally where as LHI can sustain a long rally until LD pops an unforced error. Maybe this is the reason why LD has a harder time playing against LHI.

Well, I think you cannot do simple math in badminton games. LHI is a very steady and mind-strong player. Remember how he scored 5 or 6 points in a row and almost catched up BCL in WC after 3 dubious calls in 4 consecutive points (that's the biggest blow I have seen any player received from line calls)! So even if LD got that point, it doesn't mean he will reach game point at 20:15 instead of 20:17. Maybe LD would feel safe at 19:15 and lost 19:21. You never know.

My opinion is that, since LD managed to get a comfortable lead 20:17 after 14:14, the effect of the bad call is really kind of negligible.

Yeah you are right.

Bad line calls are inevitable where human linejudges are concerned. For a mentally-tough player, especially one such as Lin Dan, it probably wouldn't and shouldn't affect him that much unless it is the few last points as in Peter Gade's controversial case at the China Master this year or Bao Chunlai's awful incident during the final of the Indonesian Open this year, or when there are several of these as in Lee Hyun-Il's horrible experience at this year's World Championships.

I say no more excuses unless it is very obvious such as many bad line calls or withdraw due to real injuries and not because of a line call (*ahem Taufik*) during play. If we start giving excuses for our favorite players {LD, PG, CH, LCW, LHI, etc...} for the littlest things we're not any better than Indra and a few other hardcore TH supporters.

A bad line call against TH on the third set while TH played LD also happened, but nobody talked about it. LD smash or drive was out by probably 7 to 10 cm, TH coaches were laughing about the call. TH was just calm, didn't complain to the Referee.

A bad line call against TH on the third set while TH played LD also happened, but nobody talked about it. LD smash or drive was out by probably 7 to 10 cm, TH coaches were laughing about the call. TH was just calm, didn't complain to the Referee.

of course he won't complain now, all eyes on taufik behavior after his IBF disciplinary sentencing. Beside, he knows he cant beat LD anyway so why make another big scene out of it? Bad calls favor TH now, because it 'contributed' to his lost.

of course he won't complain now, all eyes on taufik behavior after his IBF disciplinary sentencing. Beside, he knows he cant beat LD anyway so why make another big scene out of it? Bad calls favor TH now, because it 'contributed' to his lost.

:D I don't think there is anything Taufik can do to impress you at all, now... that he has a horrible image in your mind...:p Maybe he needs to work harder and starts winning, that's about the only thing he can do to gain your respect ever again...:p:p

Taufik must have worked very hard this past month. He is getting better and better. I am impressed by this.

:D I don't think there is anything Taufik can do to impress you at all, now... that he has a horrible image in your mind...:p Maybe he needs to work harder and starts winning, that's about the only thing he can do to gain your respect ever again...:p:p

oh sorry regarding that, let me clarify.. stable as in he doesn't do wild shots like LD, he isn't a risk taking player.. he does his usual basic stuff or you can say plain boring stuff :D
i think you mean consistent? but i get the point :D

i think you mean consistent? but i get the point :D

"A very good all round player, covers the court well but is not so flashy! Actually, he is a little boring."

-Michael Kjeldsen Michael Kjeldsen

http://www.badmintonsite.com/Tours/InsidetheTourCat.aspx?id=19

oh sorry regarding that, let me clarify.. stable as in he doesn't do wild shots like LD, he isn't a risk taking player.. he does his usual basic stuff or you can say plain boring stuff :DMaybe it does show that a defensively style player can win under the NSS.;)

Maybe it does show that a defensively style player can win under the NSS.;)

Hi cooler,

Yes, I remember what you said in POST#417 of this thread = http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33198

It's not really about attacking is better or not but rather applying your advantages and exploit opponents weakness. If one can attack all day long, go ahead but in real life attacking cost energy and u can't continuously use this mode of play, of course, if u have tons of energy left, attack to your heart content.
Yes, LD has got tired by the time he played LHI this time. And this time, LHI exploited LD's weakness.

We hope that LD will recover well enough to perform in the Individual Event.

Cheers... chris@ccc

Hi cooler,

Yes, I remember what you said in POST#417 of this thread = http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33198


Yes, LD has got tired by the time he played LHI this time. And this time, LHI exploited LD's weakness.

We hope that LD will recover well enough to perform in the Individual Event.

Cheers... chris@ccc

:eek: I had forgot about that post and that was a long thread:eek:

I think u hit the nail on the head. LD knows he can beat LHI or he won't say 'I'll fix him' next time they meet. In the 2nd set, LD dominated LHI but had expended his reserve to do that. If one look at LD smashes, a lot of outs were 'very' out by LD standard. Signs of tireness.

Let the men's single event decide who is right.

Sooner, LD vs CJ another good match! :p hehe :D

Yep I'm waiting for that one too :D!