I had a nanospeed 9000 Type S, but I just recently broke it. Now I have to decide wheather or not to get another 9000 Type S or try the 9000 Type X

Is the difference in stiffness really noticable? is the type X more tiring? anything else I should know?

I pretty much have the same dilemma.. trying to figure out whether I want an X or S. From what I've heard about the X though, is that it is indeed hard to use because its so stiff. My friend who works at a badminton club used it and said it was hard to generate speed for a smash.. and he's an attack type player. So I'm not really sure.. maybe he's just weak? lol. I guess it's totally up to your confidence in your abilities. Anyone want to elaborate?

My advice would be to any player stringing below 30lbs on their current racket, dont even for a second consider getting type-X.. Its way to stiff..

On the other-hand.. If you are strining +30lbs and feel the racket flexes to much.. then the type X would be a good model to try...

I can't see the point of getting an ultra stiff racket and stringing it "loosely" as many grabe B players do???

Anyone else (except cooldob :D ) who feels x-stiff and loose strings are good match?!?!

My 2 cents..

/Twobeer

so it really is that hard to use?? oh well. But does having it as a 2U or 3U matter much? like, does one have more control and one have more power?

Or try 30/33 lbs on a CAB 22! :D Satisfaction Guaranteed :D

Since CD is COG less, extra stiff racquet with very loose string acts like the blue pill.

My advice would be to any player stringing below 30lbs on their current racket, dont even for a second consider getting type-X.. Its way to stiff..

On the other-hand.. If you are strining +30lbs and feel the racket flexes to much.. then the type X would be a good model to try...

I can't see the point of getting an ultra stiff racket and stringing it "loosely" as many grabe B players do???

Anyone else (except cooldob :D ) who feels x-stiff and loose strings are good match?!?!

My 2 cents..

/Twobeer

so it really is that hard to use?? oh well. But does having it as a 2U or 3U matter much? like, does one have more control and one have more power?

I wouldn't say its "hard to use". stringing it 16x18 would probably make it very "newbie-friendly".. but the question really is... Why buy a really expensive ultra-stiff racket if you don't need it??? Its just simply a waste of good money.. but I guess most people feel the psychological power of having the same racket as the top-pros (however they tend to ignore or just forget the string-factor ;-) ), and somehow think that will magically make them hit better and more consistent shots...

If your last name is Cai or Fu...on the other hand... :D

/Twobeer

Or try 30/33 lbs on a CAB 22! :D Satisfaction Guaranteed :D

Since CD is COG less, extra stiff racquet with very loose string acts like the blue pill.

yeah :), I Like the Blue pill analogy :D

/T

My advice would be to any player stringing below 30lbs on their current racket, dont even for a second consider getting type-X.. Its way to stiff..

On the other-hand.. If you are strining +30lbs and feel the racket flexes to much.. then the type X would be a good model to try...

I can't see the point of getting an ultra stiff racket and stringing it "loosely" as many grabe B players do???

My 2 cents..

/Twobeer
I know you guys define below 30lbs as lossely...But yes I play with a stiff (woven 11...might be "very stiff") racket at 24lbs....and I love it. For higher tensions my netplay/dropshots suffer a lot, the lower contacttime kills my soft shots...
if badminton was a clear/smash-a-rama, and I never had to hit a backhandclear, I think I could go a lot higher...
So yes extra stiff + 'loose strings' does match...(unless you mean below 22...)

Though generally (I assume) you mean to make a point that the X isn't for most people. And especially without demoing it first don't buy it! (unless you belogn to the 3% of people that string X-stiff racket +30lbs)

I had a conversation with a professional player (female) who actually played in the ubercup, she had a dmeo X and S with her to see if see wants to change (from her at800def).
she absolutly didn't liek the X. it wasn't comfortable, and didn't hit well...she kinda liked the S...but she didn't switch over in the end.

moral of the story: there're no guarantees you'll like a racket (saying: "I'm advanced I can ahndle the X" or something..)

Type X is extra stiff, the feel when you hit the shuttle will be much harder than stiff rackets, also some people do not feel comfortable with the rackets feel.

Even loose strings won't work with NS8k. So the same would be true for NS9kX. Although the flippy floppy rubber metal on NS9k may help a little.

From my most recent experience gained from a fake racket, I realised that for a light racket to work, it has to be flexible. The lighter it is, the more flexible it must be. This is why NS9kS is a more playable racket than the type X for most people. Conversely, if you must get a very stiff racket, try getting a heavier one.

For the moment, a very light and flexible fake Ti-10 has become my most powerful racket. I was smashing so hard with it last week that I hurt my arm joint as a result, and have been COG-less for the whole week.

I would suggest go for the type S or go for the 2U type X.

Wow, blue pill does work wonder on you :eek:! And you took 2X the amount. Shhiiiiiishhhhh . . .

For the moment, a very light and flexible fake Ti-10 has become my most powerful racket. I was smashing so hard with it last week that I hurt my arm joint as a result, and have been COG-less for the whole week.

Here is my understanding on flex and string tension.

When you swing, energy has to store somewhere in the racket. It can be the string or the raceket(shaft). So, if you have a stiff or xtra stiff shaft. You don't need high tension on the string. If you put high tension then you need to swing fast on every stroke. No matter it is a clear, defensive.. or smash, even the drop shot. All the Pro can do that because that is their full time job. On the other hand, if you has a normal or regular(medium) flex shaf, then you can put high tension on the string. High tension make your net play and drop more controlable. When you do the smash, it is easy to flex the shaft. It is powerful enough for most players. Anyway, this is just my personal preference. Feel free to disagree or agree about it. The bottom line is enjoy your game.

Even loose strings won't work with NS8k. So the same would be true for NS9kX. really now...why?

The lighter it is, the more flexible it must be. really now, why?

This is why NS9kS is a more playable racket than the type X for most people.
no, it's because they can't handle the stiffness, nothing to do with weighting...if you gave the same person a 2U X and S the same thing happens..and yes I've tested with flexibility and weight...

I would suggest go for the type S. I definatly agree:o

Ehh, isn't it Mr. COG less?

really now...why?

really now, why?


no, it's because they can't handle the stiffness, nothing to do with weighting...if you gave the same person a 2U X and S the same thing happens..and yes I've tested with flexibility and weight...

I definatly agree:o

For the moment, a very light and flexible fake Ti-10 has become my most powerful racket. I was smashing so hard with it last week that I hurt my arm joint as a result, and have been COG-less for the whole week.

Oh come now, enough with the exaggerations.

If you smashed so hard with your fake Ti-10, your arm joints should not be hurting. Instead, the shuttle should be collapsing and the opponents should be taking chest shots or barely able to put their frame on the shuttle from your smashes.

Those are so hard smashes. At least in the U.S.

If your arm joints are hurting, that's just a sign of either playing too much or poor technique. I bet it's the latter. :p

P.S. I know what you are referring to, the fake Ti-10 being your most powerful racket. Just yesterday, ironically, a friend played his best and hit his best with a fake Ti10 he borrowed. :) With his NS9000-S, he could not generate any power nor consistency. With the fake Ti10, he was a fully level better in consistency and power. We're all stumped by this as is he. :D

Oh come now, enough with the exaggerations.

If you smashed so hard with your fake Ti-10, your arm joints should not be hurting. Instead, the shuttle should be collapsing and the opponents should be taking chest shots or barely able to put their frame on the shuttle from your smashes.

Those are so hard smashes. At least in the U.S.

If your arm joints are hurting, that's just a sign of either playing too much or poor technique. I bet it's the latter. :p

P.S. I know what you are referring to, the fake Ti-10 being your most powerful racket. Just yesterday, ironically, a friend played his best and hit his best with a fake Ti10 he borrowed. :) With his NS9000-S, he could not generate any power nor consistency. With the fake Ti10, he was a fully level better in consistency and power. We're all stumped by this as is he. :D

Yes, I was playing precisely 1 level up and beat the people above me. That's why it was so powerful, and I could tell it was.

I use the same technique with my other rackets and they never gave me a joint pain that lasted so long. It's a case of harder action producing a harder reaction. Unfortunately, neither the ultra low tension string nor the high shaft flex, nor the thick grip protected me from the racket recoil.

Ehh, isn't it Mr. COG less?

No it isn't. But it is definitely Mr Less MOI.