differnt specs for different country codes?

[ronce]

Guys..this may sound dumb.>But I would like to know, what is the difference between MADE IN JAPAN and MADE IN USA>? :)

[Matt]

Can you be more specific?

[pedro22]

Guys..this may sound dumb.>But I would like to know, what is the difference between MADE IN JAPAN and MADE IN USA>? :)

Around 8800 kms. :D

[Matt]

Around 8800 kms. :D

0wned...................:D

[DinkAlot]

Around 8800 kms. :D

Yep, you're correct. That's the difference. :)

[storkbill]

This should go into the sticky thread "How to ask the Ultimate Equipment Question" as an example of what is not the ultimate equipment question.

[ronce]

Yeah..I mean..in terms of the quality??? which one is better? i just got MP100 made in Japan, and I saw a few made in USA..kindda confused!

[storkbill]

Yeah..I mean..in terms of the quality??? which one is better? i just got MP100 made in Japan, and I saw a few made in USA..kindda confused!

Yonex racquets which are labelled as made in the USA are fakes, so they should generally be of lower quality than the originals.

Have a look at the Yonex USA website: http://www.yonex.com/badminton/products/muscle.html which clearly states that they are made in Japan

[ronce]

Hmm... i got it.! hahaha thanks strok! hahaha... have u tried using mp 99? issit better than 100? I am using ti10(old color)...I was considering the nano9k and mp 100..but I chose the Mp instead..=P

[Matt]

Ronce,

Are you perhaps confusing it with US coded rackets by any chance and it siads Made in Japan?

[ronce]

Hey mat..i got it from ebay ..have a look http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200035961133&rd=1&rd=1 maybe tell me what u think about it! I am picking it up tomorrow.. What should I do or spot to ensure that it is authentic?

[Matt]

Well since it from Tum98 who is a reputable Ebay seller, it would be genuine.

One can spot counterfeits if you are able to reconize what the real one actually looks like first hand, through the major and minor details.

Things to inspect when looking at a racket.
- Grommets
- Paint job
- Text stlyle
- Date code
- Yonex logo
- Yonex butt-cap
- Yonex barcode sticker on teh shrink warp.
- The racket's case.

[ronce]

hehehe> yeah., Ok! I ll watch out for that! thanks for the advice MATT!

[Viper2005]

If the racket has TH code, no warranty in USA.:crying:

US code rackets has 1 year warranty, if broken, you can get a new one.
You might think about getting a US code racket.:)


hehehe> yeah., Ok! I ll watch out for that! thanks for the advice MATT!

[Matt]

Yup, no problem. It's pretty much image recognition. When I check the rackets, for people who inquire about them, I just need to look at the key picture(s) and it tells me if it is real or not within a blink of an eye.

It just becomes very clear, once you recognize what the real one looks like (without looking at it) and looking at a counterfeit one, and you should be able to tell just like that in a snap.

[LazyBuddy]

If the racket has TH code, no warranty in USA.:crying:

US code rackets has 1 year warranty, if broken, you can get a new one.
You might think about getting a US code racket.:)

I agree.

Most geniune ebayers carry Yonex rackets with Asian distribution codes (SP, TH, etc), as Yonex US does NOT permit US based dealers to do business on ebay. Never to metion, the MP100 being discontinued in US for a while, therefore, this racket is mostly the asian coded rackets.

Yes, the price tag is very much attractive but like above metioned, the warranty might be an issue. ;)

[DinkAlot]

Yes, the price tag is very much attractive but like above metioned, the warranty might be an issue. ;)

Might be? How about 100% there is an issue. To date, I do know anyone who has successfully sent in a non-U.S. coded racket and gotten a replacement from Yonex, U.S.A. :p

[ronce]

I know someone who got a replacement for his broken racquet, HOWEVER, he has to file and sent it to Yonex Singapore...Not worth the time and the shipping fees.. =)

[DinkAlot]

I know someone who got a replacement for his broken racquet, HOWEVER, he has to file and sent it to Yonex Singapore...Not worth the time and the shipping fees.. =)

That's my point, in the U.S., Yonex will not accept a non-U.S. coded racket. Of course if you have a racket coded to a specific country and you sent it back there, Yonex will accept it.

That's the whole point. :p

[Viper2005]

Conclusion?

If you are in Japan, get JP code rackets.
If you are in USA, get US code rackets.:)

Yonex will happily replace your broken rackets.

[ronce]

yeah.. I'll confirm it with the seller first! thanks guyz

[Matt]

That's my point, in the U.S., Yonex will not accept a non-U.S. coded racket. Of course if you have a racket coded to a specific country and you sent it back there, Yonex will accept it.

That's the whole point. :p

Yes the above is correct. This does not factor in at least two exceptions.

#1 - Yonex Japan shipped incorrect coded country rackets. Instead of sending it back to Japan (losing money in the process), Yonex will sell them. The rackets in question are then recorded, therefore the warrenty will stand.

#2 - Sort of intentional shipping of racket stock from a different country coded racket to divert overstock.

It may not happen as often in the US, but in Canada it happens once a while. Once again, rackets are recorded, warrenty stands.

[DinkAlot]

yeah.. I'll confirm it with the seller first! thanks guyz

If you are buying from Tum98 or equivalent on eBay, you will be buying mostly TH or SP coded rackets.

You are not going to get a U.S. coded racket for anywhere near TH or SP coded racket prices.

Ronny, save up all your questions, type them and print them out. When I meet you, I can answer them. And or do a search first. :)

If neither a search nor I can answer your question, then post your question(s) here. :)

[eggroll]

I don't know of any Japan made rackets that even if they have the distribution code of CA, US, or whatever country that come strung. The racket in question on E Bay here comes strung so if it is authentic it is most likely used not new. To clarify the rackets that say made in Japan on the racket only come as frames!

[LazyBuddy]

I don't know of any Japan made rackets that even if they have the distribution code of CA, US, or whatever country that come strung. The racket in question on E Bay here comes strung so if it is authentic it is most likely used not new. To clarify the rackets that say made in Japan on the racket only come as frames!

It's unstrung from Yonex JP to Yonex XXX head quarter or distributor. But if an anthorized dealer/re-seller decide to string the racket with the idea to bring in more customer/profit, I don't see why it's not happening.

Therefore, simply by looking at whether a racket is strung or not, to determine the condition of a racket is not accurate. :cool:

[eggroll]

It's unstrung from Yonex JP to Yonex XXX head quarter or distributor. But if an anthorized dealer/re-seller decide to string the racket with the idea to bring in more customer/profit, I don't see why it's not happening.

Therefore, simply by looking at whether a racket is strung or not, to determine the condition of a racket is not accurate. :cool:

The racket has buy it now price of $118. No auction. It comes strung. What is the normal retail of an MP 100 in the USA? Besides LB I said I would be suspicious of this racket because of the stated new condition and the fact it in most cases is a frame only racket. Take all of this into account and again it's buyer beware. How many posts here are dealing with people getting swindled on E Bay? I'm not saying this particular seller has done this but this racket needs to be questioned to some degree.

[atsx1]

I'm wondering if anyone has noticed differences in Yonex racquets which are the same model, but have different country codes. I bought a racquet off of ebay seller tum98. It is a Nanospeed 9000 Type S with a TH country code. A friend of mine bought the same racquet (country code is CD - canadian) from a local pro shop. The 2 racquets feel similar in the way they hit, but the CD racquet feels heavier and stiffer. Is it possible that Yonex racquets with different country codes have different specs (e.g. different weight/balance and stiffness)?

I like the way both racquets play. This is just to satisfy my curiousity. Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[AMRaider]

It's been my experience that JP coded rackets tend to be at the heavier end of the weight ranges. I have never weighed a TH code racket though. If you can get a hold of a good digital scale weigh them both and see :) .

[manduki]

i thought it was all just rumors.

I was under the impression country code only dictates retail price.

[Matt]

They should be all the same. Possibly, different batch?

Can you list the weight and grip sizes of both fo the rackets?

[cooler]

I'm wondering if anyone has noticed differences in Yonex racquets which are the same model, but have different country codes. I bought a racquet off of ebay seller tum98. It is a Nanospeed 9000 Type S with a TH country code. A friend of mine bought the same racquet (country code is CD - canadian) from a local pro shop. The 2 racquets feel similar in the way they hit, but the CD racquet feels heavier and stiffer. Is it possible that Yonex racquets with different country codes have different specs (e.g. different weight/balance and stiffness)?

I like the way both racquets play. This is just to satisfy my curiousity. Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Post the U's and G's of the 2 NS7k here, then we can talk.
Same type of overgrip?

[llpjlau]

I saw Nanospeeds JP that were more expensive than SP. why is that so? do they focus more technology or something into JPs?

[Matt]

Cooler, oh, his racket changed to NS7K? Wow, I thought it was 9K he he hhe!

llpjlau - the answer to this is different country = different economy = different price! This type of question has been responded before in the past so I assume you read this up before hand.

[TonyWdq]

That's my point, in the U.S., Yonex will not accept a non-U.S. coded racket. Of course if you have a racket coded to a specific country and you sent it back there, Yonex will accept it.

That's the whole point. :p

other than warranty is there any other benefits of having a locally coded racket?

i mean, getting a defective racket is quite rare, breaking a good one under a year is not normal (on average?)

i'm thinking of getting one from china during my trip to beijing in March (from bbesport)

CH and SP coded rackets there has exceptionally low prices compared to JP but i'm just worried about the quality... they still have to make money off rackets no matter where they are selling, perhaps this could be achieved by cutting quality?

[kwun]

it has been an eternal myth that Yonex rackets of different country code have different quality.

the driving factor of which are a few:

1) retail price - this is not entirely accurate and consistent, sure, US code rackets are higher priced than SP code racket. but that doesn't always equate varying code. the margin of a US retail is much higher than a retailer from say, Hong Kong. having known some distributor prices of each, i know that most HK dealers are happy to make US$20 on a racket including stringing labor, while in the US some retailers are making US$50 on the racket alone. if you try to put in the cost of stringing, that's a nearly US$40 in margin for an average racket. that will eat away a lot of the "cost" right away

2) some ppl claim that JP racket feels more solid, yet a lot of ppl say otherwise, this is really up to the person interpretation as there has not been any extensive comparative study of different code.

3) Yonex denies such a difference in quality, which is understandable because even if there is such difference, they won't acknowledge it. imagine the outrage from users if they found out that someone from some other country get shipped the "better" product.

in the end, it boils down to the consumer, if you happen to believe that there is a different and that little bit of margin can gain you advantage, or if you prefer to have a better warranty program of a US racket. or if you think that price is everything and prefer the cheaper retail price of a SP. it is really up to you!

[TonyWdq]

well said, thank you

my decision is to buy the CH coded

money is a constantly flowing thing, over thinking wastes more time and money than what is saved on a single deal

[ryim_]

the only difference i see about JP racquets are the soft cloth cases... =)

[atsx1]

You guys are very quick with your responses. Thanks.

My racquet is a 3U, G5 (serial number is 6149031 - 090562TH).
My friends racquet is a 3U, G4 (not sure of the serial number).

[Matt]

It's most likely the handle size which would provide a different feeling of the racket.

[DinkAlot]

in the end, it boils down to the consumer, if you happen to believe that there is a different and that little bit of margin can gain you advantage, or if you prefer to have a better warranty program of a US racket. or if you think that price is everything and prefer the cheaper retail price of a SP. it is really up to you!

Well said, Sir! :)

[Pete LSD]

Kwun,

Sound like you just had it ;) and released this pented up frustration with a well written reply.

Newbie,

Please do a search on this JP Vs. CH Vs. SP Vs. Th Vs. . . . etc. code. Lots have been said about this issue already. There is no need to write up several pages of the same issue.

[atsx1]

I think the G5 grip size, compared to the G4 grip size, is the difference. I put a couple of overgrips on my G5 racquet and if feels closer, but not quite the same, as my friends G4 racquet.

Thank you all for all your input.