Koo Kien Kiet/Tan Boon Heong/Rexy Combination

[alfa-2]

yeep....publicity doesnt help to improve their rankings like in the field of actors or supermodels.............

[winnie]

might be they are preparing themselves for future? where they might enter into the field of modelling, acting, hosting, singing (can they sing?) not sure la.. but for now, it's better to kept them on the ground.. back to the tough training..dun ever think they are already very good alrdy for beating most of the world top pairs

[alfa-2]

good imagination winnie.....mayb they can consult "the rock" for that purpose......

[winnie]

good imagination winnie.....mayb they can consult "the rock" for that purpose......
haha what about consulting david beckham too cos he's a succesful sport's celebrity..maybe kkk/tbh can cond\sider having a celebrity wife? kkk's been rumoured with winnie kok (malaysian singer) but he deny it..

[azabaz_ipoh]

but beckham make millions and so does the rock. KKK and TBH are not in the millionaires' club yet now are they. so maybe until then, they should really concentrate on what they dio best and get the capital needed to breed more money. he he he he.

[JaCk™]

don't let our KKK/TBH join the millionaires club. look at Beckham. he leads a celebrity life rather than a football player's life.

[heavyn91]

yea..they shoud not join tat!!
they are very good badminton players..n should not let celebrities destroy them..

[JaCk™]

yea..they shoud not join tat!!
they are very good badminton players..n should not let celebrities destroy them..
this message should be forwarded to the mass media such as newpapers agency and television station. the way they promote KKK/TBH is too grand. i think some people here know who is KKK/TBH but do not know who's our prime minister and king.

[ixory]

this message should be forwarded to the mass media such as newpapers agency and television station. the way they promote KKK/TBH is too grand. i think some people here know who is KKK/TBH but do not know who's our prime minister and king.

I'm sorry but i laughed when i read this post.Dun worries,they also doesn't want themself to be so famous.Even they dun comfortable when people take lot of attention to them and looking at them.I think they will be alright.:D

[angelatby]

don't let our KKK/TBH join the millionaires club. look at Beckham. he leads a celebrity life rather than a football player's life.

Hahaha ! ! ! This is indeed funny ! ! ! They left with no choice, impossible they tell the King "Sorry King, we are not free to entertain you, we do not want to be celebrity" , right ! Then tell the media, please dont come to the airport, we want to keep our profile low, LOL. It doesnt work this way either. The only way to get NO attention is they lose more Competition(s) which i dont think anyone will favour this either, LOL ! :D

[alfa-2]

but beckham make millions and so does the rock. KKK and TBH are not in the millionaires' club yet now are they. so maybe until then, they should really concentrate on what they dio best and get the capital needed to breed more money. he he he he.

it is very hard for a professional badminton player to be millionaires.....even hard just to get the 1st million. Unless they managed to bag several prestigious tournaments like Olympic, TC, AE and WC.

I think that TH (I dont know about how INA rewards their sportsman) should be a millionaire by now if he is a Malaysian. I mean all those events are the ones that MAS has been wanting to win so badly for years if not decades...... TH has it all in him. INA is so lucky to have him.

[alfa-2]

Hahaha ! ! ! This is indeed funny ! ! ! They left with no choice, impossible they tell the King "Sorry King, we are not free to entertain you, we do not want to be celebrity" , right ! Then tell the media, please dont come to the airport, we want to keep our profile low, LOL. It doesnt work this way either. The only way to get NO attention is they lose more Competition(s) which i dont think anyone will favour this either, LOL ! :D

hahaha...yeah thats right.....but it would be nice though if KKK/TBH would call u guys up to skip the welcoming trip.......hahaha.

Not to worry about them, they will be fine.

[winnie]

this message should be forwarded to the mass media such as newpapers agency and television station. the way they promote KKK/TBH is too grand. i think some people here know who is KKK/TBH but do not know who's our prime minister and king.
wakakaka..hey jack..i think they know our pm la.. but i dun think they know who's the king include me:p :D :D :D hehehe

[winnie]

hahaha...yeah thats right.....but it would be nice though if KKK/TBH would call u guys up to skip the welcoming trip.......hahaha.

Not to worry about them, they will be fine.

haha we skip the welcoming bash?? but it's already a past tense leh..hehe:D

[angelatby]

hahaha...yeah thats right.....but it would be nice though if KKK/TBH would call u guys up to skip the welcoming trip.......hahaha.

Not to worry about them, they will be fine.

Hahahaha, so bad of you, yalo, hope they do not remember us, otherwise we will be blacklisted ! (but deep down, i knew they felt proud there were so many fans of them, they shy only) LOL ! :D

[sickgal]

Hahahaha, so bad of you, yalo, hope they do not remember us, otherwise we will be blacklisted ! (but deep down, i knew they felt proud there were so many fans of them, they shy only) LOL ! :D

i think so... perhaps they're touched in a way.. :):)

[winnie]

hmm will be blacklisted ar? but we din do anything over what except that car things..hahaha
some more we din disturb rexy during interview instead we wait till they finish..tat time almost 1am d..so we wait so long altho both kkk/tbh had left

[Dolly]

anyone know who is ' kwok mei jun (winnie kok)' ...many people say she is kkk girlfrieng, is that true ? winnie kok is a singer...anyone know wad is her age ?

[ants]

Winnie Kok is not KKK's gf.

[JaCk™]

perhaps best friend or good friend.. media might misinterprete their relationship.

[haifeng4ever]

perhaps best friend or good friend.. media might misinterprete their relationship.
Winnie Kok and KKK have been good friends for 3 years.

[winnie]

he had exlained that they are just frens who keep in touch using sms..
he also admitted that he had a gf but that person is not winnie kok and his gf is a non-ipoh origin gal

[kian chuan]

koo 21/tan 19. they still have some 10 years to go. hope they can wins few olympic madal, few all England, few world championship, few thomas cup, few sudirman, and many many superseries titles. Lets set lah, must be batter than korea ha tae kwon 3 all england, kim dong moon 2 olympic gold. At least ah. they are young, remember chandra /sigit first debut was 21, but malaysia younger then that, sure can be batter then them right?

[winnie]

The Star: Kien Keat-Boon Heong eye the ABC crown


KUALA LUMPUR: All-England men's doubles champions Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong will aim to win their fourth international title of the year in the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC), which will be played in Johor Baru next week.

Despite not being in the best of condition after resuming training last week, they are still seen as the favourites to win the title. The duo are now ranked ninth in the world and success in Johor Baru would push them up among the top eight in the list.

Kien Keat-Boon Heong have sealed their place on merit for the World Championships, which will be held at the Putra Stadium in Bukit Jalil from Aug 13-19.

The ABC will be the last tournament offering ranking points before the entries for the world championships are finalised. Only the top eight pairs will be seeded and Kien Keat-Boon Heong would definitely want to be one of them.
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No pressure: Koo Kien Keat (left) and Tan Boon Heong will now plot their strategy for the Asian Badminton Championships to be held in Johor Baru next week.

All the top doubles pairs from China, Indonesia and South Korea are absent from the ABC, including world number one Fu Haifeng-Cai Yun and world number three Lee Yong-dae-Jung Jae-sung.

However, Malaysia will be out in full force. Kien Keat-Boon Heong are the second seeds and their teammates in the half of the draw are Tan Bin Shen-Ong Soon Hock, Lin Woon Fui-Gan Teik Chai and Hong Chieng Hun-Chew Choon Eng.

Veterans Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah are the top seeds and defending champions.

Kien Keat said that they certainly cannot afford to take their teammates lightly.

“We train together all the while and it is never easy when you play against your teammates,” he said.

“We will try our best to produce another good run.

“We should get among the top eight in the world rankings if we can win this title.

“At the same time, we do not want to put too much pressure on ourselves.

“My condition is not that good yet because we have only started training last week. I am at 80% of what I was in Europe.”

After winning the All-England last month, Kien Keat-Boon Heong went on to take the Swiss Open title as well.

Kien Keat-Boon have gone on an amazing run since they were paired up last October for a runners-up finish in the Japan Open.
They won the first gold medal for Malaysia in Asian Games badminton in 36 years in Doha last December and the following month emerged as the champions of the first round of the inaugural Super Series – the Malaysian Open.

[angelatby]

I admire you guys'Steady persistence in finding out MORE about KKK's and even his spouse, i think that is more to his privacy already, LOL !

[JaCk™]

why not we find out more on how they train?? i know their training is very heavy. but is it as heavy as China's training where their players' legs shiver when sleep??

[azabaz_ipoh]

shiver in their sleep :eek: that is dedication! and torture. he eh ehe. pushing it to the limit huh?

[tjl_vanguard]

why not we find out more on how they train?? i know their training is very heavy. but is it as heavy as China's training where their players' legs shiver when sleep??
hahaha.... shiver even when sleeping?? man... tat S*X!! haha but one gotta sacrifice to achieve sumthing! :D

[ixory]

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Tuesday April 10, 2007

Sports Awards: The bet’s on Koo-Tan

By LIM TEIK HUAT

KUALA LUMPUR: Athletes from badminton, bowling and squash are set to take top honours at the National Sports Awards ceremony at the Juara Stadium in Bukit Kiara here tonight.
A total of nine awards will be given out in recognition of achievements last year.
And the badminton men's doubles pair of Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong and squash superstar Nicol David are the favourites to bag the 2006 Sportsman and Sportswoman Award respectively.
Kien Keat-Boon Heong won the first gold medals for Malaysia in 36 years of Asian Games badminton in Doha last December after having just forged a partnership two months earlier.
The other nominees for the Sportsman award with strong credentials are Sazali Samad (bodybuilding), Yeoh Ken Nee (diving) and Alex Liew (bowling).
For the women's category, Nicol is expected to win the award for the second consecutive year. She retained the world and British Open titles last year and also won gold at the Doha Asiad.
The other women's nominees are Esther Cheah (bowling), Siti Zalina Ahmad (lawn bowls) and Chai Fong Ying (wushu).
Esther won three gold and two silver medals at the Doha Asiad while Siti Zalina retained her title in the Commonwealth Games in Melbourne.
Fong Ying is the reigning world champion and she became the first Malaysian woman exponent to win an Asian Games gold medal in wushu last year.
The national men's and women's bowling teams are expected to take both the National Team Awards at stake.
The men's team won a silver medal in the World Championships last year and they also took gold in the Asian Championships. The women's team clinched the team gold for Malaysia in the Asian Games.
National bowling chief coach Holloway Cheah is the favourite to win the Best Male Coach Award. He holds the credentials of guiding the bowlers to win more than 20 international titles last year.

Good luck to both of them..there also live telecast tonight at 10.20 pm on RTM 1 .I think both KKK/TBH won't be there,preparing for ABC.

[winnie]

The New Strait Times: Natinal Sports Awards: Kien Keat-Boon Heong unfazed

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Boon HeongIT’S business as usual for All England champions Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong who have no intention of dwelling on their not winning the National Sportsman of The Year Award. Kien Keat-Boon Heong, who ended Malaysia’s 36-year Asian Games badminton gold drought in Doha last December, were pipped to the award by bodybuilder Sazali Abdul Samad.


Sazali, who only managed silver in the Doha, was chosen as he had won the prestigious Mr Universe crown for the second time last year.

Boon Heong said that neither Kien Keat nor himself was disappointed at not having won the award as they still have a long way to go in their brief career which started in December.

"I'm not really disappointed. In fact we were not putting too much hope on winning anyway. We are still growing and may win it in future," said Boon Heong.

"Our main focus is to keep producing results and we are not too concerned about what awards we will win next.
"There is no assurance we can win next year either as there could be athletes from other sports who may achieve better results than us.

"We just want to concentrate on our job and the rest will fall in place." Last year, the award went to Lee Chong Wei but the shuttler was not nominated by the BA of Malaysia this time, as BAM felt Kien Keat-Boon Heong stood a better chance of winning.

However, Kien Keat-Boon Heong had only competed in just two tournaments — Japan Open and the Asian Games — as a pair last year.

Kien Keat-Boon Heong, already winners of the All England and Swiss Open this year, will stand a better chance of winning the award next year if they can nail Malaysia’s first title in the World Championships to be held in Kuala Lumpur on Aug 13-19.

[winnie]

The Star: It’s no big deal, say badminton duo


JOHOR BARU: The men’s badminton doubles pair of Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong were seen as a good bet to claim the 2006 Sportsman of the Year award.

And the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) general manager, Kenny Goh, was making arrangements to fly them back to Kuala Lumpur for the National Sports Awards ceremony at Juara Stadium in Bukit Kiara last night when it was learnt that bodybuilder Sazali Samad had been named the winner.

The duo, however, did not take it as a disappointment at all. They have set their full attention on the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC), which started with the qualifying rounds at the Indoor Stadium here yesterday.

“It’s nothing (not winning the award). We are focused on the ABC and are looking forward to winning our fourth title this year,” said Boon Heong.
The duo have had a sensational run since forging a partnership to finish as the runners-up in the Japan Open last year October. They won the first gold medal in 36 years for Malaysia in Asian Games badminton in Doha last December.

This year, they won three of the four rounds of the inaugural Super Series thus far – the Malaysian Open, All-England and Swiss Open. Their success at the prestigious All-England was Malaysia’s first in 25 years in the men’s doubles event.

Said Kien Keat: “There is no such thing as disappointment for not being named the Sportsman of the Year. I did not play in last year’s ABC as I took a break after the Melbourne Commonwealth Games. So I am eager to add the Asian title to my collection.
“I may not be 100% fit for the ABC but I am fully focused on achieving the desired results. I am about 20% down on fitness following all the celebrations we had for our success in the All-England and Swiss Open. I don’t think it will affect my play much.”

[ieatjimmy]

yea when i first heard them getting a nomination i knew there's no way they're gonna win it but then like, the media's all like "THE DUO FO'SHIZZLE GONNA WIN, YO!" and so I was like, "YEAH OMG THEY COULD WIN!"

and they didn't.

and now i'm lil' dissapointed for all the excitement. haha

[winnie]

The Star: Hot-shots Koo-Tan give fans their money’s worth


JOHOR BARU: Malaysia's hottest badminton property Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong are certainly the crowd pullers for the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC) at the Indoor Stadium here.

And the duo served up treats for the fans – not once but twice yesterday.
Today, the stadium will be filled to the brim when they play for a place in the men’s doubles semi-finals.

The winners of the Malaysian Open, All-England and Swiss Open titles this year and the Doha Asian Games last December are highly favoured to add a fourth title to their collection after marching into the quarter-finals with relative ease.

They were ruthless in a 21-19, 21-10 win over Japan’s Keishi Kawaguchui-Naoki Kawamae and they gave the crowd plenty to cheer with their aggressive attacking brand of badminton, which carried too much power for Indonesians Yoga Ukikasah-Surytama Dasuki in the second round, winning 21-14, 21-11 in only 23 minutes.

In the quarter-finals today, Kien Keat-Boon Heong will play against team-mates Ong Soon Hock-Tan Bin Shen, who advanced with a 21-17, 21-18 win over Thailand’s P. Ngernsrisuk-N. Narkthong in the second round.

Defending champions and top seeds Lee Wan Wah-Choong Tan Fook are also through to the last eight.

They will play against Taiwanese Lee Sheng-mu-Fang Chieh-min for a place in the semi-finals.
Another Malaysian pair, Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif-Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari, also have a quarter-final match against a Taiwan pair – Tsai Chia-hsin-Hu Chung-hsien.

[yannie]

Tan Boon Heong, Koo Kien Keat and Wong Choong Hann
All England 2007

I was sitting almost next to them..

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[ixory]

yannie..u really a lucky girl...

[yannie]

they were watching tan bin shen / ong soon hock's match against cai yun / fu haifeng..

choong hann kept shouting: c'mon bin shen, c'mon bin shen!!!

[ixory]

Nice to hear they shouting for their team mate.Are u also shouting for them yannie,or u shouting for FHF/CY:D

[yannie]

hahahaha i kept my mouth shut.. if not.. i will be grilled by MAS team.. hahaha seriously i'm always too shy to shout in every tournament.. sighhh.. except when we shout in a group..

[ixory]

Imagine they shout for MAS player,then a cute girl(yannie) next to them shout for China pair.All the MAS player eye go to yannie....wanna grill tat gal..:D :D :D :D

[yannie]

something similar happened..

we (chinese) supporters were cheering for cai yun and fu haifeng..
elwin81 (malaysian) was cheering for tony and candra..

seriously we all wanted to grill/fry/bake/steam/bbq/boil him at that time.. and how did he dare to sit among us!!! hahahaha.. so brave!

[FU4EVA]

In all-England still okay because Malaysian supporters limited, but imagine if it is the world championship in August at Kuala Lumpur. Try shouting for the opponent team other than the Malaysian player.

Who have the guts to do so?

[Dreamzz]

In all-England still okay because Malaysian supporters limited, but imagine if it is the world championship in August at Kuala Lumpur. Try shouting for the opponent team other than the Malaysian player.

Who have the guts to do so?

ah, it's ok, we are non-violent people.
what's worse is going to liverpool during the merseyside derby and sitting with the home supporters wearing blue and cheering for everton.
then you'll know what real fear is.

[Cheung]

In all-England still okay because Malaysian supporters limited, but imagine if it is the world championship in August at Kuala Lumpur. Try shouting for the opponent team other than the Malaysian player.

Who have the guts to do so?I have shouted out in supporting M'sian in China Open against a China pair;)

[ixory]

I have shouted out in supporting M'sian in China Open against a China pair;)

U re really braved Cheung,is yannie and the gang there?if yes sure they wanna grill you/fry/bake/steam/bbq/boil you:D :D :D .But how u got tat strenght to shout for MAS among China supporter??

[Cheung]

But how u got tat strenght to shout for MAS among China supporter??Because I am powerful!!!:D:D:D;)

[Dato A]

Now is Koo Kien Keat/ Tan Boon Heong and Hafiz combination...

[george@chongwei]

Now is Koo Kien Keat/ Tan Boon Heong and Hafiz combination...
pls pls pls dont compare hafiz hashim with koo kien keat/tan boon heong!!!:(

[Dato A]

pls pls pls dont compare hafiz hashim with koo kien keat/tan boon heong!!!:(

Not the same level ah?

Both are All England Champion.:D

[winnie]

Not the same level ah?

Both are All England Champion.:D
haha then must include CJ, LYD-JJS oso d lo :p:D:D:D

[george@chongwei]

Not the same level ah?

Both are All England Champion.:D
100% not same level..:p
At least KKK/TBH had archieve the world number 1 pair in the world b4..haha..but now..:(:(

[SibugiChai]

Fuzzy can only win one game...

Not a tournament!

They never win

[george@chongwei]

Fuzzy can only win one game...

Not a tournament!

They never win
in the future, i think they will be winning many tournaments...:)

[SibugiChai]

in the future, i think they will be winning many tournaments...:)


I doubt they can because they are short handed.

[amaze]

What is the root cause of the matter ?

It is one thing to give excuses when one constantly loses when it matters, and another to really give oneself a critical analysis and accept the truth for what they are, take control, change, and charge again.

By now, many would have seriously recommended that KK/BH be split. However, owing to the fact that they have qualified for the Olympics as a pair, by hook or by crook, they'll have to stick to it through thick and thin till the games in August. So meanwhile, what happens ?

Rot till then ? Or pick yourselves up, recap on how the partnership first took the badminton world by storm, and charge again ?

Something is wrong with the partnership. Everyone knows it. But why ?

There was a marked difference when Kien Keat came on court with Choong TF for the quarter finals, and when he came on court with BH 2 days later. We can all see the relaxed attitude written all over KK's face in the earlier game.

However, during the semis, both of them were either so tense with each other or the situation, there was hardly any communication between the 2 boys; which was detrimental to the partnership, and thus spelled doom right from the word 'go'.

We could see BH trying to make communication, but KK was just trying to keep mum. Was he told not to dominate his partner during play so that BH could play better ? So did that give a negative effect instead ? That's really for the 2 of them to answer.

The explosive game that was their trademark is no longer. Those touch shots were easily read and countered by their opponents especially since they were executed by KK/BH who were totally not settled and thus not confident in their game.

To say that they can't work as a pair is an understatement, considering that they have won so many tournaments together in just over a year. They just need to sort themselves out as a pair.

2 talented and individualistic players MUST work with synergy in order to work as a team. No other way.

I wish to see positive change. I really do.

[extremenanopowe]

From my perception (am sure you have yours), Let this be a divorce lah. They cannot see eye to eye lah. Maybe some know them better would disagree.

The result will speak for itself. Let them find their own partner to prove themselves. (My thought is Rexy shd stick to KKK/CTF against china, to my surprise it works well. Good to have surprises to catch opponent off guard. Nothing to loose. I think the fear is there for not doing so. Else gets the flack).

There are some good back up players there who can partner them. Maybe can try Fuzzy and KKK and let TBH partner OSH or someone.

With the current standard of play. it is impossible for them to beat the likes of koreans and china. Unless some miracle happens (I know they do).

Ask them the straight question. Do you like to partner each other? No point playing with the thought of hating each other while playing. The body language can show while they play.

Again, this is just an opinion hor... sabar kawan.

[eaglehelang]

The result will speak for itself. Let them find their own partner to prove themselves. (My thought is Rexy shd stick to KKK/CTF against china, to my surprise it works well. Good to have surprises to catch opponent off guard. Nothing to loose. I think the fear is there for not doing so. Else gets the flack).

......

Extremepower, I think you know by now that CTF was sick, that's why it was KKK/TBH against Fu/Cai. The original plan was Fuzzy vs FU/Cai, CTF/KKK as MD2 against Guo/Xie. As stratch pair, CTF/KKK could not be fielded as MD1, ranking lower than Fuzzy. LWW was injured, cannot play with CTF as MD1.

[ants]

I know the real reason behind CTF's flu. Fielding CTF/KKK would be a gamble. If they win Rexy is smart.. if the lost Rexy would be dubbed Stupid by the fans.

[wood_22_chuck]

I know the real reason behind CTF's flu. Fielding CTF/KKK would be a gamble. If they win Rexy is smart.. if the lost Rexy would be dubbed Stupid by the fans.

Did Rexy have a final say on this, or did he ask CTF to decide?

-dave

[X Ball]

I know the real reason behind CTF's flu. Fielding CTF/KKK would be a gamble. If they win Rexy is smart.. if the lost Rexy would be dubbed Stupid by the fans.

Well they won. Is he stupid or clever?

[JayChou1]

Let's just called a pot what it is.. IT IS BLACK.

I will not hide my words. I would go all out to say TAN BOON HEONG has to improve. He is the weak link in this partner.

80% all smashes, is directed to TBH. All their opponent know the weakness and they are now exploiting it.

His defend is weak. Although he has a powerful smash. even that, most of the time it's flat and it goes over the BASELINE. POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT CONTROL.

KKK is affected by this and he is trying to do everything and this lead to more mistake. Because he try to drop even nearer to net, smash even closer to line, which lead to even more mistake.

I hope REXY and TBH is reading this.
firstly, TBH confident is down. He has to improve his confident first. How to improve confident is to work on his defends and practise until u regain that confident

secondly, repeated remind him to control his power game. Only smash with power when u are in position. Not to power smash even when u are off balance.

[george@chongwei]

yeah, tan boon heong always smash, their opponent can get the shuttle back very well..i seen a match in the recent thomas cup where KKK/TBH vs LYD/HJH where tan boon heong keep smashing untill the shuttle cannot die and at last LYD do 1 superb skills to trick the 2 malaysian pair to get a point.
juz look at FHF., whenever he smash, thier opponent are scare of them becoz he smash with power and on a right time..

[SibugiChai]

Let's just called a pot what it is.. IT IS BLACK.

I will not hide my words. I would go all out to say TAN BOON HEONG has to improve. He is the weak link in this partner.

80% all smashes, is directed to TBH. All their opponent know the weakness and they are now exploiting it.

His defend is weak. Although he has a powerful smash. even that, most of the time it's flat and it goes over the BASELINE. POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT CONTROL.

KKK is affected by this and he is trying to do everything and this lead to more mistake. Because he try to drop even nearer to net, smash even closer to line, which lead to even more mistake.

I hope REXY and TBH is reading this.
firstly, TBH confident is down. He has to improve his confident first. How to improve confident is to work on his defends and practise until u regain that confident

secondly, repeated remind him to control his power game. Only smash with power when u are in position. Not to power smash even when u are off balance.

I hope they are not reading because they should be training!

TBH is more powerful than FHF but TBH not that accurate

[george@chongwei]

I hope they are not reading because they should be training!

TBH is more powerful than FHF but TBH not that accurate
IMO, FHF is more powerful than TBH,..
not i dont like them, its juz my opinion:)

[winnie]

I know the real reason behind CTF's flu. Fielding CTF/KKK would be a gamble. If they win Rexy is smart.. if the lost Rexy would be dubbed Stupid by the fans.
seems like u r hinting something.. mind to make it clearer?

[george@chongwei]

yeah, seems that ants have something fishy about CTF`s flu..can u make it clearer, ants?

[SibugiChai]

CTF has caught the deadly bird flu?

[winnie]

CTF has caught the deadly bird flu?
choiiii touch wood!

[Dato A]

CTF has caught the deadly bird flu?

Ask ZJ, sure she know.:D:D

[Silencer]

Let’s not kill the golden goose!

20 Mar 2007
Review by K.M. Boopathy (news@nst.com.my)

KOOKienKeat-Tan Boon Heong, after their Swiss Open win in Basel on Sunday, have firmly established themselves as the most lethal doubles pair on the planet.

And it’s high time too as Malaysia has been starved of world success in badminton for way too long.

However, they could easily self-destruct from overzealous celebrations and the rewards that some are clamouring for following their back-to-back victories in the All England and Swiss Open. This is something the young Kien Keat-Boon Heong must be very guarded against on their return home tonight.

A grand welcome at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) is said to be in place and, as usual, there will be those wanting to jump on the bandwagon and organise more functions to associate themselves with the champions.

Kien Keat, 22, and Boon Heong, 20, thoroughly deserve all the credit as winning four titles in six tournaments is no easy task by any stretch of the imagination, but they must not let it get to their heads. Getting conceited is a sure way of losing a grip on reality.

This, they must not do. Of late, badminton fans have witnessed the gradual slipping away of Hafiz Hashim and, more recently, Lee Chong Wei. This must not happen to Kien Keat-Boon Heong.

Hafiz, following his 2003 All England triumph, became an overnight hero at home and on his return from Birmingham, was greeted by many VIPs, while Kelantan Mentri Besar Datuk Nik Aziz greeted him when he returned to his home town of Kota Baru.

Hafiz received monetary rewards, and also a brand new car.

All that adulation and rewards, it is suspected, took Hafiz to dizzy heights from which he did not quite recover. And now, just 25, the age when some champions are just peaking and others maintaining their grip on things, Hafiz has been struggling to get anywhere close to his 2003 form. Chong Wei also showed rapid progress last year and became the World No 1 for a month and the attention he got not only saw him lose his focus completely but his normal resilience also took a blow.

Now, in Kien Keat-Boon Heong, Malaysia have an outstanding pair capable of winning much more but gold in the Beijing Olympics must take precedence above all else. National doubles coach Rexy Mainaky, who discovered and nurtured the pair, is very cautious about the duo’s new-found fame which he believes could destroy them if Kien Keat-Boon Heong are not handled properly.

"The celebrations are going to be grand but I will do my best to protect them. We need to make an effort to reduce the celebrations and start preparing for other competitions fast," said Rexy in a telephone interview from Basel.

"I must also make sure they remain level-headed which means I need to educate them on how to handle the fame. So far, I have no complaints but their efforts should continue."

Reward for winning the All England and Swiss Open titles, which have fetched Kien Keat-Boon Heong a total of US$28,400 (RM99,400), should not be the issue.

The BA of Malaysia (BAM) already has its incentive scheme where Kien Keat-Boon Heong will receive an additional 25 per cent of their prize money and the presidential bonus of RM10,000 for each title.

This will fetch them an impressive (about) RM240,000 in total for their efforts from the four super series tournaments — Malaysia, Korea and Swiss Opens and the All England — they competed in this year. Showering them with more rewards is not a good idea.

Kien Keat-Boon Heong have just started their career and if they go on playing the way they have been doing, they will have the world at their feet and more rewards will follow.

But for now, Rexy must not let the sweet smell of success get to the heads of two players who are yet so young.

Its too good to be true... this newspaper jinx them!!!

[extremenanopowe]

Oh.... this i didn't know. No wonder. naughty CTF. Just kidding.:D

Still, My view is split the KKK/TBH pair for the sake of the game lah. No point aledy. Its a divorce. There are so many young players to partner them to rebuild the confidence.

Let them choose the partner themselves and there should he less excuses. Just have to build up on the strategy since the basics are already there. Am sure Rexy can make it happen to make them win again. Bole Bisa Bole!!!:D
It is a new beginning....


Extremepower, I think you know by now that CTF was sick, that's why it was KKK/TBH against Fu/Cai. The original plan was Fuzzy vs FU/Cai, CTF/KKK as MD2 against Guo/Xie. As stratch pair, CTF/KKK could not be fielded as MD1, ranking lower than Fuzzy. LWW was injured, cannot play with CTF as MD1.

[limsy]

rexy blame ctf in nanyang press...rexy said if he was ctf...he will play for the country...the country go first...hmm

[stsunny]

rexy blame ctf in nanyang press...rexy said if he was ctf...he will play for the country...the country go first...hmm

yup...i ever read this in newspaper also...

dont know how and what to comment about this issue...:confused:

haih...:(

Really hope that KKK/TBH can perform like in previous....

achieve better results in next badminton open....

[ants]

But CTF does really have a flu.

[limsy]

But CTF does really have a flu.

even small girl like julia can play 2 match with flu...win 1 lost 1...all in 3 set...so...ctf cant make it???...or he dont want make it???:confused:

[SibugiChai]

But CTF does really have a flu.

Remember Micheal Jordan?

He had a bad flu and cant pratice for 2days but he score 45points.

Is in the MIND & HEART!:crying:

UNCLEs simply doesnt has the guts, will and patriotism!

[charmlene]

maybe uncle was having serious flu?

[SibugiChai]

maybe uncle was having serious flu?

Jordan cant pratice for 2days and collase after the game...

Is all in the mind...

UNCLEs is 31, MJ was 33....

UNCLES just dont have the WILL!

[koo_fan]

But CTF does really have a flu.
I guess when we are at ctf's shoes,then we'll find out what happen.
But,we all know he is a good malaysian all this while.
why he must changed now,when we need him most?it doesnt look sensible he DONT want to play.Just nonsensical.

[charmlene]

oh..he DIDNT WANT to play?..weird..haha..

[olympic]

Jordan cant pratice for 2days and collase after the game...

Is all in the mind...

UNCLEs is 31, MJ was 33....

UNCLES just dont have the WILL!

CTF caught with flu,end up he was not able to partner KKK.KKK-TBH "forced" to be the 1st doubles pair and their defeat caused M'sia beaten by China 2-3.Well,seems like CTF was the culprit for the defeat?I believe CTF himself know better than anybody else whether he is fit enough to play.I'm sure he wouldn't want to fall sick as well.Might as well let the fitter team mates take up the challenge.Don't forget,TC is a prestigous team event,i'm sure not even a single player want to sit on the cold bench.As simple as that,failure or success everyone in the team have to share the burden..

[SibugiChai]

CTF caught with flu,end up he was not able to partner KKK.KKK-TBH "forced" to be the 1st doubles pair and their defeat caused M'sia beaten by China 2-3.Well,seems like CTF was the culprit for the defeat?I believe CTF himself know better than anybody else whether he is fit enough to play.I'm sure he wouldn't want to fall sick as well.Might as well let the fitter team mates take up the challenge.Don't forget,TC is a prestigous team event,i'm sure not even a single player want to sit on the cold bench.As simple as that,failure or success everyone in the team have to share the burden..

He dared not to play!

A different between a winner and a loser.

CTF always lose in critical moments. So he use the flu as an excuse to skip the final.

Suk Chun! :cool:

[charmlene]

wa sibugichai..why la so angry at him..haha..

[SibugiChai]

wa sibugichai..why la so angry at him..haha..

I have met them in person & met them in local tourny

Dont like them very much! :cool:

[eaglehelang]

I have met them in person & met them in local tourny

Dont like them very much! :cool:

off-topic : Ohhh, that's why. LWW is ok mah? Nowadays, LWW always cool, do his very best. Other than his old injuries coming back to haunt him, he shows he can do it at uncle age, with surgery to boot.

Uncles still got some tricks up their sleeves ;)

[Dato A]

He dared not to play!

A different between a winner and a loser.

CTF always lose in critical moments. So he use the flu as an excuse to skip the final.

Suk Chun! :cool:

How SURE are u about it?

Dont compare a basketball player with a badminton player.

[koo_fan]

I have met them in person & met them in local tourny

Dont like them very much! :cool:
Personally huh?
And im with charmlene..why so angry?
Give them a break.They are not really themselves in a tournament.They are Choong Tan Fook and Lee Wan Wah not the 'Uncles Pair'.

[limsy]

well
there are thread for tbh and kkk personally
and 2 thread for uphill and downhill
so
to prevent open another thread for them
i searched,and i decide to post here

throughout year 2009
koo/tan won 2 ss titles+2 ss runner up,2 gp gold titles,1 wc bronze,2 silver from sea games
and they finish the year with world ranking number 1

2009(all international matches)
win 48
lost 14
7 of the lost is against the others top 4,one lost against boe/morgensen

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as world number 1,if someone say they cannot lost to lower ranked pair is ridiculous,because thats mean u must be unbeatable;):rolleyes:
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as for next year
i expect
atleast 2 more ss titles from them
final of cwg
atleast semis of wc,thomas cup and asian games

[jasonmarc]

well
there are thread for tbh and kkk personally
and 2 thread for uphill and downhill
so
to prevent open another thread for them
i searched,and i decide to post here

throughout year 2009
koo/tan won 2 ss titles+2 ss runner up,2 gp gold titles,1 wc bronze,2 silver from sea games
and they finish the year with world ranking number 1

2009(all international matches)
win 48
lost 14
7 of the lost is against the others top 4,one lost against boe/morgensen

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as world number 1,if someone say they cannot lost to lower ranked pair is ridiculous,because thats mean u must be unbeatable;):rolleyes:
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as for next year
i expect
atleast 2 more ss titles from them
final of cwg
atleast semis of wc,thomas cup and asian games

2009 for them was way better than 2008:D, but still not good compared to 2007........:(

Overall results still bad,...still no major title, SEA Games title, SSMF title....
Only one SO SS title can be proud of:p, DO SS title was just so-so( no top 3 pair involved), ...........

Out of their 48 wins, only not more than 4 were over those top 3 pairs.....cmiiw....( top 3...Lyd/Jjs, MK/HS, Cy/Fhf ) :(

Out of their 14 losts, more than 40% were to those lower rank pairs.......
from here we can see that they are trully beatable by lower rank pairs...hehehe)..Just hope they managed to lower this losts %( to lower ranks pairs) by half in 2010.....:o...

Again, I am not demanding them to be undefeatable here...OK?

[limsy]

2009 for them was way better than 2008:D, but still not good compared to 2007........:(

erm.how old is lyd in 2007?
so u are proud of their 4 ss titles just because lyd doesnt good enough in 2007?:rolleyes:is there any pair rated as top 4 pair in 2007?:eek:

Overall results still bad,...still no major title, SEA Games title, SSMF title....
Only one SO SS title can be proud of:p, DO SS title was just so-so( no top 3 pair involved), ...........

sea games title and ssmf title is major?:eek::rolleyes:
dont get laugh by the rest of bc

Out of their 48 wins, only not more than 4 were over those top 3 pairs.....cmiiw....( top 3...Lyd/Jjs, MK/HS, Cy/Fhf ) :(

Out of their 14 losts, more than 40% were to those lower rank pairs.......
from here we can see that they are trully beatable by lower rank pairs...hehehe)..Just hope they managed to lower this losts %( to lower ranks pairs) by half in 2010.....:o...

Again, I am not demanding them to be undefeatable here...OK?
again,i think koo/tan should made them wr 100 in the world,so they wont lost to LOWER　ＲＡＮＫ PAIR anymore:)
ohoh,by half lar,so,koo/tan can only lost 3 times to lower rank pair next year.
means if koo/tan participate in 10 tournament,they should win 7 of them?
ok,i get what u mean;)

[Dato A]

The pair is WR No. 1 now. They should, in theoretically, the best pair currently.

Winning SEA GAMES silver-medal ( 2 pieces ) is not an easy task for them. So, we can consider that the achievement is great.

Dont push them. Give them chances and time. They will prove to us one day.

[jasonmarc]

again,i think koo/tan should made them wr 100 in the world,so they wont lost to LOWER　ＲＡＮＫ PAIR anymore:)
ohoh,by half lar,so,koo/tan can only lost 3 times to lower rank pair next year.
means if koo/tan participate in 10 tournament,they should win 7 of them?
ok,i get what u mean;)

Hahaha,....U always like to choose what to understand and what not to....and u get it wrong again....but its still up to you...:D:D

If they think its ok to keep losing to lower rank pairs....then they better rank 100+..........:D:D:D

[limsy]

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2010/1/4/sports/5406535&sec=sports

“In view of the preparations for these four major events, we will cut down their participation in Super Series tournaments,” said Rosman.
“Koo-Tan attended 10 of the 12 Super Series events last year and it had an effect on their physical condition towards the end of the season.
“The elite pairs will probably be looking at not more than eight Super Series tournaments this year. We will go for quality instead of quantity as they also have to focus on the preparations for the more important meets.


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good news to me
hope mak/tan,chan/lim can play atleast 2 ss outside malaysia in 2010:)

[limsy]

as for next year
i expect
atleast 2 more ss titles from them
final of cwg
atleast semis of wc,thomas cup and asian games

yup
they done the 50% from what i have expect;)

[undeadshot]

yup
they done the 50% from what i have expect;)

MO 2010...
I dare say they will win more than 2...but I can't really speculate too early :D

[george@chongwei]

this combination really works during mas open 2010..

the most recent;)

[jasonmarc]

this combination really works during mas open 2010..

the most recent;)

Not yet George, not yet....:D

thats only for MO 2010 with not have to face other top 3 pairs.....

We will see if its really works in AE 2010, with all other top 3 pairs join in the competition.........;)

[eaglehelang]

thats only for MO 2010 with not have to face other top 3 pairs.....

We will see if its really works in AE 2010, with all other top 3 pairs join in the competition.........;)

AE, if all top 3 join also(remember LYD injured arm), not same half of the draw. Depends who're in same half ;)

[undeadshot]

Hmmm, KKK/TBH has a good record against MK/HS, but MK/HS has better record in 2009. They have 4-5 record against CY/FHF according to limsy, so I do think they stand a fair chance, even if they have to push past both pairs. MB/CM and LP/JR should not be a major problem, except that they might get pushed to 3 sets.

[limsy]

Hmmm, KKK/TBH has a good record against MK/HS, but MK/HS has better record in 2009. They have 4-5 record against CY/FHF according to limsy, so I do think they stand a fair chance, even if they have to push past both pairs. MB/CM and LP/JR should not be a major problem, except that they might get pushed to 3 sets.

koo/tan against fu hai feng/cai yun
beat
all england 2007 final 21-15,21-18(39 min)
swiss open 2007 quater 21-16,11-21,21-13(51 min)
swiss open 2009 semis 23-21,18-21,21-14(56 min)
asian games 2006 quater 21-9, 21-19
lost
indonesia open 2007 semis 21-17,12-21,10-21(45 min)
sudirman cup 2007 9-21,14-21(32 min)
thomas cup semis 2008 16-21,17-21(39 min)
sudirman cup 2009 21-19,15-21,21-23 (66 min)
indonesia open 2009 semis 21-18,11-21,15-21(50 min)

in tournament,they have a 4-2 advantage
they lost 3 times to fu/cai in cup competition(sc,tc:))

[george@chongwei]

Not yet George, not yet....:D

thats only for MO 2010 with not have to face other top 3 pairs.....

We will see if its really works in AE 2010, with all other top 3 pairs join in the competition.........;)
I meant the latest about this combination. (That's what this thread is all about;)) Furthermore, 1 of the 'Dominant' pair is there but then crash out in the 1st round because of the injury to LYD as reported. That's why they don't have a chance to play against KKK/TBH.:p

Relax and enjoy your chinese new year 1st before thinking about all england:D

Conclusion is: this combination works very well during the MAS Open. As reported in Thestar also, that victory in stadium putra meant so much to our md coach, Rexy Mainaky :)

[jasonmarc]

I meant the latest about this combination. (That's what this thread is all about;)) Furthermore, 1 of the 'Dominant' pair is there but then crash out in the 1st round because of the injury to LYD as reported. That's why they don't have a chance to play against KKK/TBH.:p

Relax and enjoy your chinese new year 1st before thinking about all england:D

Conclusion is: this combination works very well during the MAS Open. As reported in Thestar also, that victory in stadium putra meant so much to our md coach, Rexy Mainaky :)

Yes, indeed....another AE title will make rexy's even firmer as MD head coach in MAS........:D:D

Dont u think so ? George...

[eaglehelang]

Yes, indeed....another AE title will make rexy's even firmer as MD head coach in MAS........:D:D
..

Meanwhile, do study the trends, not just KKK/TBH & their main opponents but also the younger pairs. This year looks interesting, cos I think the normal trends not being followed, it'll keep changing, then only exciting.:p:p

[george@chongwei]

Yes, indeed....another AE title will make rexy's even firmer as MD head coach in MAS........:D:D

Dont u think so ? George...
yes, another AE title from Koo/tan will not just make rexy's place as mas md coach firmer, their combination will be even more solid..solid than metal:D

[limsy]

yes, another AE title from Koo/tan will not just make rexy's place as mas md coach firmer, their combination will be even more solid..solid than metal:D

arent they called as diamond pair in chinese press?:confused:
of course solid than metal;)

[ywh83]

Another AE title become dato lor :)

[ye333]

It has become a torture to watch them play... They are not even 25 yet and played like 30+ uncles. Never bother to move their feet. KKK even constantly finds chances to sit for a while.

And seems to me KKK has gained much weight since AG2006?

KKK is done. TBH is still curable. It would be nice if TBH can pair up with masters like Tony Gunawan for a while -- it would be a shame if such a talent got wasted. :cool:

[Athelete1234]

I notice that too....KOR pair always plays 100%, as fast as possible, same with CHN. Koo/Tan just kind of walk around and chill out...defend too much, too many trick shots. Tan got too tired smashing in CHN open 2009, but LYD was still smashing til the end....and this was after 2.5 hours of badminton. It's disappointing to see them so lazy.

[george@chongwei]

I notice that too....KOR pair always plays 100%, as fast as possible, same with CHN. Koo/Tan just kind of walk around and chill out...defend too much, too many trick shots. Tan got too tired smashing in CHN open 2009, but LYD was still smashing til the end....and this was after 2.5 hours of badminton. It's disappointing to see them so lazy.
Yup. As i said before already , consistency and determination is 1 of the issue here.

Just look at the koreans style of play.. full of determination and well discplined. fighting HARD for every shot no matter what. I'm not saying koo/tan is not like that though. But if u watch these 2 pairs play, u will noticed the difference;)

[limsy]

It has become a torture to watch them play... They are not even 25 yet and played like 30+ uncles. Never bother to move their feet. KKK even constantly finds chances to sit for a while.

And seems to me KKK has gained much weight since AG2006?

KKK is done. TBH is still curable. It would be nice if TBH can pair up with masters like Tony Gunawan for a while -- it would be a shame if such a talent got wasted. :cool:

:eek:
is that a red alert for them?;):p


I notice that too....KOR pair always plays 100%, as fast as possible, same with CHN. Koo/Tan just kind of walk around and chill out...defend too much, too many trick shots. Tan got too tired smashing in CHN open 2009, but LYD was still smashing til the end....and this was after 2.5 hours of badminton. It's disappointing to see them so lazy.

lol
that was an old issue
koo/tan playing the 3rd final of 4 back to back super series
while lyd playing the 2nd if i am correct:)
anyway,smash hard does give u title
then u will be absence for a couple of month as u overwork ur arm;)

[jasonmarc]

It has become a torture to watch them play... They are not even 25 yet and played like 30+ uncles. Never bother to move their feet. KKK even constantly finds chances to sit for a while.

And seems to me KKK has gained much weight since AG2006?

KKK is done. TBH is still curable. It would be nice if TBH can pair up with masters like Tony Gunawan for a while -- it would be a shame if such a talent got wasted. :cool:


I notice that too....KOR pair always plays 100%, as fast as possible, same with CHN. Koo/Tan just kind of walk around and chill out...defend too much, too many trick shots. Tan got too tired smashing in CHN open 2009, but LYD was still smashing til the end....and this was after 2.5 hours of badminton. It's disappointing to see them so lazy.


Yup. As i said before already , consistency and determination is 1 of the issue here.

Just look at the koreans style of play.. full of determination and well discplined. fighting HARD for every shot no matter what. I'm not saying koo/tan is not like that though. But if u watch these 2 pairs play, u will noticed the difference;)

Spot on....! :cool:

Attitude in a match is the main point here......sadly, kkk is having a wrong one,....but there's a slight improvement in this department lately....hope they keep improving.....;)

[SibugiChai]

Spot on....! :cool:

Attitude in a match is the main point here......sadly, kkk is having a wrong one,....but there's a slight improvement in this department lately....hope they keep improving.....;)

i thought the national coaches just praised KKK attitude and recommended our junior to follow his style... :confused:

Learn to be LCLY as KKK!

[visor]

Joining this late... but aside from improving their mental attitude , each player has at least one thing to improve upon.

For KKK, he has to avoid those useless between-his-legs and behind-his-back shots that he so frequently tries to do unsuccesfully when he is smashed at. Instead, he should use his backhand to defend. Rexy should penalize him every time he does that, so that he won't do that unless he really really is out of position for his backhand.

For TBH, he simply has to improve his smash returns. He is the weak link here, and the other top ranked MD players like to exploit this when playing against them.

[limsy]

i thought the national coaches just praised KKK attitude and recommended our junior to follow his style... :confused:

Learn to be LCLY as KKK!

hmm
u must know the different of a junior level comment and professional level comment;)

[kaifah]

do anyone know what the tension KKK and TBH use for their racket???

[limsy]

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/iwdns/Article/index_html:eek:

[quik_silver]

the link doesnt work

[limsy]

the link doesnt work

sorry
here
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/iwdns/Article/index_html

[limsy]

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/68REXO-2/Article/index_html

[undeadshot]

Rexy is certainly putting a lot of trust on them. I hope KKK plays seriously. If the two of them are seriously and as commited as the other top 4, I think they have a rather fair chance at the title.

"We have discussed strategies when playing against potential rivals and even Tan Kim Her gave his input on how to handle the Korean pair." - Rexy

Good to see those two working together. Rexy is very optimistic in that article.

[visor]

I sure hope Rexy has corrected KKK's bad habit of not using his backhand for defence, like trying to hit shots behind his back or between his legs instead of using his backhand, and also going into a crouch forehand defence position instead of using backhand. If he doesn't try these low probabiltiy shots, then he's rocking!

And as a pair, if they avoid lifting to their opponents like in the past that they end up mostly defending, then they will do well.

[george@chongwei]

Yes, it would be interesting match to watch imo.
Since TKH already gave some input on how to handle the koreans, it would be interesting to know the outcome of the match though.

[jasonmarc]

Rexy is certainly putting a lot of trust on them. I hope KKK plays seriously. If the two of them are seriously and as commited as the other top 4, I think they have a rather fair chance at the title.

"We have discussed strategies when playing against potential rivals and even Tan Kim Her gave his input on how to handle the Korean pair." - Rexy

Good to see those two working together. Rexy is very optimistic in that article.

Good efforts from the coaches !

But, dont just focus on Korean pairs only,...those lower rank pairs and uncles pairs also looks dangerous to them......:D:D:D and dont forget MK/HS....

[undeadshot]

Good efforts from the coaches !

But, dont just focus on Korean pairs only,...those lower rank pairs and uncles pairs also looks dangerous to them......:D:D:D and dont forget MK/HS....

Their main rivals should be Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan, Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae and Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng. For the rest of the pairs, KKK/TBH will only lose if they are in mediocre form or are simply not playing seriously. I think most of the times they lost against weaker opponents are when KKK is playing fancy while TBH is not smashing. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm not sure :p But yes, there are several pairs out there who might be a threat. Among them is Marthias Boe/Cartsen Morgensen

[george@chongwei]

Good efforts from the coaches !

But, dont just focus on Korean pairs only,...those lower rank pairs and uncles pairs also looks dangerous to them......:D:D:D and dont forget MK/HS....
Hey, not forgetting those china and korea junior too;)
they are quite dangerous though imo.

[olympic]

Hey, not forgetting those china and korea junior too;)
they are quite dangerous though imo.

Among the juniors Cai Biao-Zhang Nan is the pair to be watched out...this pair have been improved tremendously...they have given KKK-TBH a very hard time during MO.

[george@chongwei]

Among the juniors Cai Biao-Zhang Nan is the pair to be watched out...this pair have been improved tremendously...they have given KKK-TBH a very hard time during MO.
Agree.. i watched them play in several tourneys already and found that they are improving day by day and are beginning climb up to the top of World badminton. Great job from Zhang Jun;)

[ivanow]

they even won the german open , win againts taiwan harry potter...

[olympic]

Agree.. i watched them play in several tourneys already and found that they are improving day by day and are beginning climb up to the top of World badminton. Great job from Zhang Jun;)

Yup.They would be the rising star to take over from Cai Yun-Fu Haifeng after the latter's retirement.China is having a slight edge (in terms of junior pair) in mens' doubles department.At the moment we don't see any outstanding junior pair from MAS,DEN,INA & KOR.

[danielwong]

Yup.They would be the rising star to take over from Cai Yun-Fu Haifeng after the latter's retirement.China is having a slight edge (in terms of junior pair) in mens' doubles department.At the moment we don't see any outstanding junior pair from MAS,DEN,INA & KOR.


if you read detailed analysis here:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81975&page=4
you will know that how wrong your statement are....
and you should rejoice as MAS MD future is good...:D:D

[limsy]

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2010/3/10/sports/5822923&sec=sports

“Some of them are here to impress their coaches and to win tickets for the Thomas Cup Finals ... so they will not be holding back their punches,” Kien Keat said after sweating it out at the National Indoor Arena here yesterday.

“There could be some new faces at second doubles and this could make it quite intriguing.
“Some may be playing for the first time in the team event and it will be interesting to see how they will cope with the pressure.”

[SibugiChai]

Cai Biao-Zhang Nan seems to have great confidence in their game compare to juniors from MAS & INA...

[olympic]

Cai Biao-Zhang Nan seems to have great confidence in their game compare to juniors from MAS & INA...

Totally agree...they may be "raw" in terms of experience wise but they have "THE GUTS" which I personally think most of our MAS juniors lack of.

[Athelete1234]

Well...they lost first round to JR and LP... straight sets too. KKK even lost XD as well. Wonder what happened?

[Thom_bad]

LOL
It seems to be critiquing-time for bolleh fans...
By the way, surprising loss for Kkk/tbh...

[cooler]

Well...they lost first round to JR and LP... straight sets too. KKK even lost XD as well. Wonder what happened?


LOL
It seems to be critiquing-time for bolleh fans...
By the way, surprising loss for Kkk/tbh...
#1 seed lost to the uncle danes in 27 mins, 13-21 11-21.
WCH is out too.

[Athelete1234]

#1 seed lost to the uncle danes in 27 mins, 13-21 11-21.
WCH is out too.
Same with their top WD.

[jasonmarc]

Good efforts from the coaches !

But, dont just focus on Korean pairs only,...those lower rank pairs and uncles pairs also looks dangerous to them......:D:D:D and dont forget MK/HS....

LOL......just exactly like what i said before..........they lost tamely to Danes Uncles again....:D:D:D ....inconsistence...??? or they are off trend...??? or injury...???

[jasonmarc]

Cai Biao-Zhang Nan seems to have great confidence in their game compare to juniors from MAS & INA...

YES.........they are in the front now...:p:p

[OneToughBirdie]

Pemuda predicted KKK/TBH will be KO from AE10and he is correct:) I heard that Pemuda is banned from BC:(...I read his past posts and found nothing offensive, just that Pemuda expressed his views which I believe this forum encourage and promote, now what feathers did he ruffles that caused him to be banned:rolleyes: Would moderator cares to explain? We, or rather I, miss his postings, as Pemuda, despite his young age, is articulate and really intelligent. Not everyone agree with his view, come to think about it, heck, I couldn't even agree with my wife all the time...maybe 90% of the time..:D:p

[huangkwokhau]

Pemuda predicted KKK/TBH will be KO from AE10and he is correct:) I heard that Pemuda is banned from BC:(...I read his past posts and found nothing offensive, just that Pemuda expressed his views which I believe this forum encourage and promote, now what feathers did he ruffles that caused him to be banned:rolleyes: Would moderator cares to explain? We, or rather I, miss his postings, as Pemuda, despite his young age, is articulate and really intelligent. Not everyone agree with his view, come to think about it, heck, I couldn't even agree with my wife all the time...maybe 90% of the time..:D:p
Hm..and what made you marry her at the first place as you could not agree 90% most of the time????:D:D:D

[OneToughBirdie]

Hm..and what made you marry her at the first place as you could not agree 90% most of the time????:D:D:D

The wise man once said, a person knows only 50% of the woman/man that he/she marries, the 50% he/she find out later:D:p Hopefully, the other 50% is not that bad:D:p

[OneToughBirdie]

Hm..and what made you marry her at the first place as you could not agree 90% most of the time????:D:D:D

Oops, I see you point, I meant 90% agree most of the time, 10% disagree:D:p

[OneToughBirdie]

Pemuda predicted KKK/TBH will be KO from AE10and he is correct:) I heard that Pemuda is banned from BC:(...I read his past posts and found nothing offensive, just that Pemuda expressed his views which I believe this forum encourage and promote, now what feathers did he ruffles that caused him to be banned:rolleyes: Would moderator cares to explain? We, or rather I, miss his postings, as Pemuda, despite his young age, is articulate and really intelligent. Not everyone agree with his view, come to think about it, heck, I couldn't even agree with my wife all the time...maybe 90% of the time..:D:p

Whenever I open up BC, whether in Canada or in Malaysia or anywhere I can access internet, I look forward to reading Pemuda's post. Personally, I don't think Pemuda should be banned and that is my view. What does other BCers think?

[danielwong]

YES.........they are in the front now...:p:p


why must we Kan Cheong...:confused::confused::confused:
relax.....take a deep breath and don't kan cheong :D:D:D

[danielwong]

Whenever I open up BC, whether in Canada or in Malaysia or anywhere I can access internet, I look forward to reading Pemuda's post. Personally, I don't think Pemuda should be banned and that is my view. What does other BCers think?


support 100%....:D:D:D
i know some might not like me after my statement...
but what Pemuda said is purely for the better and future of
Malaysia badminton and never intended against any Msian shuttlers
i mean personal against them....also i know he won't attack Bcers personally
maybe the word he use is sometime a bit harsh lar...but if we open our heart, listen and think what he said...I can find what he said is quite true...
just that what he said is like, the glass is half full.....he will tell us, the glass is half empty..the other way round....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[BadFever]

Whenever I open up BC, whether in Canada or in Malaysia or anywhere I can access internet, I look forward to reading Pemuda's post. Personally, I don't think Pemuda should be banned and that is my view. What does other BCers think?
What? :confused: Pemuda got banned, again. This time for how long?
I guess if you are correct most of the time (but against the majority) is not always a good thing. :p

[eaglehelang]

Whenever I open up BC, whether in Canada or in Malaysia or anywhere I can access internet, I look forward to reading Pemuda's post. Personally, I don't think Pemuda should be banned and that is my view. What does other BCers think?

The offending posts has long been deleted, you didnt have chance to read them, that's why you did not know.;) And errrr, some of Pemuda comments was not based on actual happenings or facts, many errors in basic info on players, esp Juniors & back up.
Not to mention attacking members who thought differently from him or try to present correct info, Msian or non Msian. If one talks that way to other people in real life, land in hospital already, I have seen people get trashed for less :p

If one predicts failure all the time, sure it will hit some of the time.
And uncle, I also predicted KKK/TBH will not win AE this year ;)

[eaglehelang]

i mean personal against them....also i know he won't attack Bcers personally
maybe the word he use is sometime a bit harsh lar...but if we open our heart, listen and think what he said...I can find what he said is quite true...
just that what he said is like, the glass is half full.....he will tell us, the glass is half empty..the other way round....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

You did not read how last time he comment on wilfred & Ants,etc. So had to tone down.
Haha, for the latest ones, you obviously did not read the comment on Yew Hong Kheng, after I pointed out that Yew is male, not female.

[bananakid]

Whenever I open up BC, whether in Canada or in Malaysia or anywhere I can access internet, I look forward to reading Pemuda's post. Personally, I don't think Pemuda should be banned and that is my view. What does other BCers think?

Pemuda would not have be banned if he was to post the exact same materials on other forums.

Some moderators in this forum are bias and favored the bolehians so badly, that a particular bolehian(you know who you are) once called another forum member a "bi*ch", and he was not banned while pemuda was banned once again.:rolleyes:

[cooler]

LOL......just exactly like what i said before..........they lost tamely to Danes Uncles again....:D:D:D ....inconsistence...??? or they are off trend...??? or injury...???if lost due to injury, the staronline would had published that:D I chalk their lost to hangover from over celebrating the last MAS Open title win;)

[george@chongwei]

#1 seed lost to the uncle danes in 27 mins, 13-21 11-21.
WCH is out too.
but lcw is still there.. hanging in the balance.. 50-50 right now:p

[george@chongwei]

Pemuda predicted KKK/TBH will be KO from AE10and he is correct:) I heard that Pemuda is banned from BC:(...I read his past posts and found nothing offensive, just that Pemuda expressed his views which I believe this forum encourage and promote, now what feathers did he ruffles that caused him to be banned:rolleyes: Would moderator cares to explain? We, or rather I, miss his postings, as Pemuda, despite his young age, is articulate and really intelligent. Not everyone agree with his view, come to think about it, heck, I couldn't even agree with my wife all the time...maybe 90% of the time..:D:p
but he predicted LCW won't win the ae too this time. let's see whether he's correct. nothing offensive u meant? yes, he's right to expressed his views and thoughts in the forum.. everybody can agree or disagree with that but then NO personal attack.. ;)

[george@chongwei]

why must we Kan Cheong...:confused::confused::confused:
relax.....take a deep breath and don't kan cheong :D:D:D
yes, swiss open is next.. they 'should' be able to defend their title there:p:)

[george@chongwei]

Ok, enough about pemuda and all.. Get back to koo/tan.

Do you guys think they will win the swiss open next week?:D:D

[danielwong]

yes, swiss open is next.. they 'should' be able to defend their title there:p:)


Ok, enough about pemuda and all.. Get back to koo/tan.

Do you guys think they will win the swiss open next week?:D:D


yes, even cannot defend Swiss Open also never mind
dont kan cheong as well...
based on trend and analysis, our day will come...:p:p:p

[SibugiChai]

If one predicts failure all the time, sure it will hit some of the time.
And uncle, I also predicted KKK/TBH will not win AE this year ;)

I agree with this...

further more, its easier to predict failure than success...

For example if 4player have equal chances to win than each player has 25% to success.

To predict failure successfully - 75%

To predict WIN successfully -25%

[visor]

Rexy, Koo, & Tan are going to have a nice cozy chat with BAM to look forward to when they return to MAS. Losing in 27 mins in the first round?! I'd like to hear their excuses.

[SibugiChai]

Rexy, Koo, & Tan are going to have a nice cozy chat with BAM to look forward to when they return to MAS. Losing in 27 mins in the first round?! I'd like to hear their excuses.

Favourites Koo-Tan crash out in first round

FAVOURITES Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong crashed out in the first round of the All-England badminton championships at the National Indoor Arena here yesterday.


However, Gan Teik Chai-Tan Bin Shen and Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah surprised everyone by making it to the second round.


Top seeds and world number one Kien Keat-Boon Heong were sent packing 13-21, 11-21 by former world champions Jonas Rasmussen-Lars Paaske in just 27 minutes.


And the 2007 All-England champions walked out of court dejectedly.


National doubles chief coach Rexy Mainaky said the defeat proved that the unseeded Danish veterans had no respect for nor fear of the Malaysians.
http://thestar.com.my/archives/2010/3/11/sports/s_pg61wongmc.jpg Early exit: Malaysia’s Wong Mew Choo returning a shot to China’s Jiang Yanjiao during their first-round match at the All-England. Mew Choo lost 18-21, 9-21. — AFP


“Our pair were the favourites and had a better record against the Danes. But today, I give credit to the Danes for relying on their experience,” said Rexy.

“They showed utter disrespect for the Malaysians. They were fearless and went for broke from the start. They had a chance and fought all the way to win. This is what I want the Malaysians to learn.

“It is disappointing that Koo and Tan have lost in the first round. It, however, should not destroy their confidence. I hope they will learn from this and come out stronger.”

Kien Keat and Boon Heong were shell-shocked by their defeat.
“I just do not know how to describe this defeat. We were well-prepared but it was the Danes who put us under pressure from the start,” said Kien Keat.

“They kept pushing us in all departments and it really broke down our resolve. Boon Heong said the Danes held the upper hand in service.

“It was so difficult to anticipate their shots. I played badly too. They were more aggressive from the start and it rattled us,” he said.


While Kien Keat-Boon Heong were left to lick their wounds, independent players – Teik Chai-Bin Shen – saved the day when they exacted revenge on Hong Kong’s Yohan Hadikusumo Wiratama-Wong Wai Hong with a sensational 21-19, 21-19 win.
Said Teik Chai: “We lost to them at the German Open last week and it feels good to get the better of them here. Hopefully, we can keep our momentum going here.”
They will take on China’s Chai Biao-Zhang Nan for a place in the quarter-finals today.
Veterans and two-time All-England runners-up Tan Fook-Wan Wah played superbly to beat Taiwan’s Chen Hung-ling-Lin Yu-lang 21-16, 26-24 to set up a match with South Korean youngsters Cho Gun-woo-Kwon Yi-goo in the second round.

[SibugiChai]

support 100%....:D:D:D
i know some might not like me after my statement...
but what Pemuda said is purely for the better and future of
Malaysia badminton and never intended against any Msian shuttlers
i mean personal against them....also i know he won't attack Bcers personally
maybe the word he use is sometime a bit harsh lar...but if we open our heart, listen and think what he said...I can find what he said is quite true...
just that what he said is like, the glass is half full.....he will tell us, the glass is half empty..the other way round....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I dunno if what PEMUDA post was really what he meant but I am sure PEMUDA just wanna get some "DEBATE" inside BC....

[eaglehelang]

but he predicted LCW won't win the ae too this time. let's see whether he's correct. . ;)

Everybody seems very kan cheong abt LCW this AE, no need so kan cheong one.
In predicting KKK/TBH I forgot to add the factor you told in msn. But then, you also change2, make me confused.:D

[danielwong]

Everybody seems very kan cheong abt LCW this AE, no need so kan cheong one.
In predicting KKK/TBH I forgot to add the factor you told in msn. But then, you also change2, make me confused.:D


sometimes what you heard might be true ;);)
esp. in msn....;););)

[eaglehelang]

I agree with this...

further more, its easier to predict failure than success...

For example if 4player have equal chances to win than each player has 25% to success.


Sorry ya, eagle must be getting old, what you mean by the underlined sentence

[eaglehelang]

sometimes what you heard might be true ;);)
esp. in msn....;););)
Must check 1st with a few other sources, cannot just take at face value.;);)

Anyway, KKK/TBH trend will keep changing this year, along with the changes in doubles dept, harder to predict

[danielwong]

Must check 1st with a few other sources, cannot just take at face value.;);)


hahahhaa.....dont kan cheong ok...
really sad now :crying::crying::crying:
so many Yo-YO

[eaglehelang]

hahahhaa.....dont kan cheong ok...
really sad now :crying::crying::crying:
so many Yo-YO
Huh? :confused::confused: I not kan cheong leh. You telling yourself not to kan cheong is it?
I dunno how you observe the tournaments but by now should be able to see how things will go.

In Swiss, If Rexy go with KKK/TBH, different scenario. If Rexy dont go like last year, then different scenario.:p

[limsy]

lol
relax relax
why u guys have so big reaction?
the bog boss not yet voice out
where is the testimonia from prof.j?:crying:
when will prof.p back?:crying:
i would like to read the 'brilliant' opinion from them:D

[SibugiChai]

Sorry ya, eagle must be getting old, what you mean by the underlined sentence

I mean, it is easier to predict failure than success...

Like buying TOTO,

[george@chongwei]

Rexy, Koo, & Tan are going to have a nice cozy chat with BAM to look forward to when they return to MAS. Losing in 27 mins in the first round?! I'd like to hear their excuses.
Yes, next up... NSC awaiting the report from BAM:p
as always...:rolleyes:

[george@chongwei]

Everybody seems very kan cheong abt LCW this AE, no need so kan cheong one.
In predicting KKK/TBH I forgot to add the factor you told in msn. But then, you also change2, make me confused.:D

haha..as i told u already. 'that factor' exist everywhere and everytime.. we just need to be smart enough to know.:)

[visor]

haha..as i told u already. 'that factor' exist everywhere and everytime.. we just need to be smart enough to know.:)
What "factor", do please tell...

Also another thought: Rex, KKK, TBH's only redemption left is if Jonas Rasmussen and Lars Paaske end up winning this AE...

[OneToughBirdie]

but he predicted LCW won't win the ae too this time. let's see whether he's correct. nothing offensive u meant? yes, he's right to expressed his views and thoughts in the forum.. everybody can agree or disagree with that but then NO personal attack.. ;)

Anyone can predict Dato will win AE10 but when $$$ is involved that is whole different situation. I just got back from KL, while most people highly regard Dato as a great player (me included) but not one single person I talked baddy to would bet on Dato to win if the bet is even up against LD. LD has to give points or take a discount (like 80%) on win for people to bet on Dato, even then it is too risky. So Pemuda is not the only one who predict Dato will not win. Me too. The funny thing (I was ROFLOL) Eric the Pertama Complex baddy store owner said, after the OLY08 experience, LCW is like facing a 'ghost' when he see LD on the opposite side. I know Eric is reading this and laughing too.:D

[eaglehelang]

haha..as i told u already. 'that factor' exist everywhere and everytime.. we just need to be smart enough to know.:)
I considered a different factor, end up same conclusion, haha:p

[ctjcad]

Ok, enough about pemuda and all.. Get back to koo/tan.

Do you guys think they will win the swiss open next week?:D:D
..will they win the Swiss Open SS next week??:confused:..George, everyone is targeting the AE, not the Swiss Open SS:p..who really cares about who wins the Swiss Open SS, next week..:p

Rexy, Koo, & Tan are going to have a nice cozy chat with BAM to look forward to when they return to MAS. Losing in 27 mins in the first round?! I'd like to hear their excuses.
..imo, this is just the beginning and probably won't affect them much (KKK & TBH already won & have the AE title secured in their pocket). What will affect them the most, imo, is the upcoming Thomas Cup performance/result.

As for our dear Pemuda 2nd disappearance, whatever he posted which triggered some members to report/complain to the mods, only the involved parties would know (yes, you know who you are). IMO, the case should've and could've been resolved through PM between Pemuda and the other party; and simple deletion of posts and maybe a warning. And no one would be banned.

[OneToughBirdie]

..As for our dear Pemuda 2nd disappearance, whatever he posted which triggered some members to report/complain to the mods, only the involved parties would know (yes, you know who you are). IMO, the case should've and could've been resolved through PM between Pemuda and the other party; and simple deletion of posts and maybe a warning. And no one would be banned.

Completely agree with you. Really, what did Pemuda really posted that was so sensitive to warrant banned? I am 100% sure Pemuda wants MAS to win, but the truth hurts, of course, Pemuda calling a spade a spade and many times, he said we agree to disagree. Don't we all silently want everyone to agree with us all the time, akin to kissing our butts. I really wonder what offensive posts Pemuda made that triggered the ban. That young man is just too smart to make stupid post openly in the forum, knowing the Mods hold the power card. I just hope this ban is temporary, and Pemuda WOULD come back. If there is a poll on whose posts that is most watched, I bet on Pemuda. It is sad and I sure hope it is not Politics 101.

[limsy]

well
uncle otb
there is no isa in bc;)
and to me,the mod is right;)
of course u will say so because it is not directed to u and u didnt manage to read it.
if he is clever enough
he wont get banned for i dont know how many time already lol

[george@chongwei]

..will they win the Swiss Open SS next week??:confused:..George, everyone is targeting the AE, not the Swiss Open SS:p..who really cares about who wins the Swiss Open SS, next week..:p

..
because after ae is swiss open ma.. they already crash out in the 1st round of ae yesterday..so what's next for them? the swiss open la.:p They are defending the title though:D:D..agree with you, who cares about the swiss open..:rolleyes: the major ae open is what people cares, and sadly yesterday koo/tan crash out..:o:rolleyes:

[limsy]

because after ae is swiss open ma.. they already crash out in the 1st round of ae yesterday..so what's next for them? the swiss open la.:p They are defending the title though:D:D..agree with you, who cares about the swiss open..:rolleyes: the major ae open is what people cares, and sadly yesterday koo/tan crash out..:o:rolleyes:

lol
if no one care
why organise it?
just held 2 tournament
ae,wc every year
enough lah:rolleyes:

[george@chongwei]

lol
if no one care
why organise it?
just held 2 tournament
ae,wc every year
enough lah:rolleyes:
Let me ask u.. all england and swiss open.. which one is more 'MAJOR' and the most caught people's attention?

[jasonmarc]

because after ae is swiss open ma.. they already crash out in the 1st round of ae yesterday..so what's next for them? the swiss open la.:p They are defending the title though:D:D..agree with you, who cares about the swiss open..:rolleyes: the major ae open is what people cares, and sadly yesterday koo/tan crash out..:o:rolleyes:

Dont need to sad lah, George.....as we already knew whats going to happened,...........the were overly focus on the KOR pairs,..they, included coaches were over confident to play pairs other than the KOR.......This happened so many times already. :D:D

[visor]

Let me ask u.. all england and swiss open.. which one is more 'MAJOR' and the most caught people's attention?
No kidding, especially since this is the centennial special edition of the AE.

[jasonmarc]

Let me ask u.. all england and swiss open.. which one is more 'MAJOR' and the most caught people's attention?

Maybe in MAS, no one dare to mention about 'Major' anymore....cause we are just good enough for non-major..........:(:( so have to erase the 'Major' lah !:D:D

[limsy]

Let me ask u.. all england and swiss open.. which one is more 'MAJOR' and the most caught people's attention?

so?
the statement should be people care about swiss open,but people are more caring about all england
and not 'who cares about swiss open?:rolleyes:

oh oh
the prof.p testimonial is out!
where is ants?
faster call kenny goh hire him then we can win pratically everything on this earth as he know what is going wrong:mad:
bam is stupid to let prof.p and prof.j wondering in bc and not bam:mad::crying:

[jasonmarc]

Relax, dont need to be so :mad:........hahahha, Relax lah.........:D:D

We are just bunch of observant here,....we see somethings is wrong just merely from players performances, those inside politics, and plans are for those specialist in BAM to figure out, we can only gives our oppinions......dont get too emotional !

[SibugiChai]

We all are chatting here because we are not good enough to be players, not well connected to be official and not rich enough to be sponsor...

SO keep on RANTING...

[george@chongwei]

so?
the statement should be people care about swiss open,but people are more caring about all england
and not 'who cares about swiss open?:rolleyes:

oh oh
the prof.p testimonial is out!
where is ants?
faster call kenny goh hire him then we can win pratically everything on this earth as he know what is going wrong:mad:
bam is stupid to let prof.p and prof.j wondering in bc and not bam:mad::crying:
ok la then.

so between all england and swiss open.

which one people MORE care?:D

[limsy]

ok la then.

so between all england and swiss open.

which one people MORE care?:D

hmm
read my post again and u can found it in the 1st sentence my old uncle:p

[OneToughBirdie]

We all are chatting here because we are not good enough to be players, not well connected to be official and not rich enough to be sponsor...

SO keep on RANTING...

No, no, you are wrong...we are here because talk is cheap and we have nothing better to do...as for myself, I am done with the dating scene, currently still on vacation time and now waiting for the download to complete so I chat. For you people who are singles with no life, no fun and no date:crying:, that is a little bit sad sitting behind a computer punching away....hahaha!!! Just a joke.....for fun:p

[limsy]

No, no, you are wrong...we are here because talk is cheap and we have nothing better to do...as for myself, I am done with the dating scene, currently still on vacation time and now waiting for the download to complete so I chat. For you people who are singles with no life, no fun and no date:crying:, that is a little bit sad sitting behind a computer punching away....hahaha!!! Just a joke.....for fun:p

all i can say is the joke isnt funny:p
u should polish ur humor skill:p
and u dont know how busy sibugichai and me is:p

[OneToughBirdie]

all i can say is the joke isnt funny:p
u should polish ur humor skill:p
and u dont know how busy sibugichai and me is:p

Sorry Limsy, my apology...I know you are busy doing school and posting vigorously, that is quite a feat. As for Sibugichai, you are right that I do not know his busy lifestyle..no harm intended.:D:p

[george@chongwei]

hmm
read my post again and u can found it in the 1st sentence my old uncle:p
That's why la... People out there will think the all england are more important/interested than the swiss open.. thats why i imply the sentence.. 'who cares':rolleyes: no need over sensitive la..limsy boy:p

[ctjcad]

so?
the statement should be people care about swiss open,but people are more caring about all england
and not 'who cares about swiss open?:rolleyes:
...
..if we take out the "SS" title from both the All England Open and Swiss Open, i wonder how many regular baddy fans care to follow or be interested in the Swiss Open?? and in the All England?..:confused:;)

[badMania]

Completely agree with you. Really, what did Pemuda really posted that was so sensitive to warrant banned? I am 100% sure Pemuda wants MAS to win, but the truth hurts, of course, Pemuda calling a spade a spade and many times, he said we agree to disagree. Don't we all silently want everyone to agree with us all the time, akin to kissing our butts. I really wonder what offensive posts Pemuda made that triggered the ban. That young man is just too smart to make stupid post openly in the forum, knowing the Mods hold the power card. I just hope this ban is temporary, and Pemuda WOULD come back. If there is a poll on whose posts that is most watched, I bet on Pemuda. It is sad and I sure hope it is not Politics 101.

Mostly OT here:
The most sensitive posts should have been deleted and I am sure the victim wouldn't want it to be discussed again here.

It's true that we don't have to agree with each other most of the time. Unfortunately, it has been proven times and times again that his posts often carried insulting and derogatory remarks especially to those who disagree with his opinion; sometimes the players too. For example: the insulting remark on one of MAS's junior player got him a temporary ban end of last year :rolleyes: I would definitely feel insulted too if I was the junior player mentioned in the post :cool: What makes thing worse is that Pemuda got the fact wrong in the first place and yet he still openly posted insulting remarks about the junior player without getting his fact right :o

While most of his rants about MAS players are spot on, these has been repeated times & times again in many threads. My question is: what's exactly new in most of Pemuda's posts??? LCW is not a major-trophy player....etc..we already know about these given the facts :rolleyes:

And for the record: I am not a Malaysian, nor am I a fan of Lee Chong Wei or Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong or any other Malaysian players. But I really feel sorry for those who had been at the receiving ends of Pemuda's posts.

[Dato A]

No big deal KKK/TBH fail to win the AE title this year. Instead, they've won it before.

They have lots of SS / GP / LOCAL TOURNEY to go in this year. Who cares about Major or Minor? As long as they can win some of it, thats enough.

[jasonmarc]

No big deal KKK/TBH fail to win the AE title this year. Instead, they've won it before.

They have lots of SS / GP / LOCAL TOURNEY to go in this year. Who cares about Major or Minor? As long as they can win some of it, thats enough.

Yes, and never mind with the inconsistency........or we shd say they are probable still tired after MO, just 1.5 month of rest is too short for them....hahahaha:D:D

[danielwong]

Yes, and never mind with the inconsistency........or we shd say they are probable still tired after MO, just 1.5 month of rest is too short for them....hahahaha:D:D


they already explained that the Danes played better than them in every department...or outclass them....just the best pair on that day won
even Rexy acknowledge it...so why cant you guys spare them the rod?:crying::crying::crying:

[SibugiChai]

they already explained that the Danes played better than them in every department...or outclass them....just the best pair on that day won
even Rexy acknowledge it...so why cant you guys spare them the rod?:crying::crying::crying:

The Danes are not a bad pair, in fact they are ex-world champion...

[visor]

The Danes are not a bad pair, in fact they are ex-world champion...
Yes, but these young MAS boys are also ex-AE champion!
And to lose in 27 minutes in straight games with such embarassing scores...:eek:

[limsy]

lol
every match will have a winner+a losser
so what a big deal?
did u all see korea fans crying/ranting in this forum when psh get trashed by bcl?:rolleyes:
mentality different;)

[danielwong]

lol
every match will have a winner+a losser
so what a big deal?
did u all see korea fans crying/ranting in this forum when psh get trashed by bcl?:rolleyes:
mentality different;)

coz PSH have no AE, or SS titles ler...
thats the difference...and also not WR1
so no big deal
unless the loser is LYD....;););)

[koowakchai]

No.1 in the world
Malaysia boleh

Top seed for All England
Malaysia boleh

Lose in 1st Round
Malaysia boleh :D:D

Apa lagi Malaysia boleh...
LCW boleh menang All England

[visor]

^^^
Good one.
That should satisfy the Bolehians...:D

[jasonmarc]

coz PSH have no AE, or SS titles ler...
thats the difference...and also not WR1
so no big deal
unless the loser is LYD....;););)

Plus...BCL is an outstanding player, no shame lost to him,....:)

[jasonmarc]

Yes, but these young MAS boys are also ex-AE champion!
And to lose in 27 minutes in straight games with such embarrassing scores...:eek:

Totally agreed,

Totally embarrassment for not played like WR1.........no quality at all...what they actually do in training , just focusing on Korean style of play ? :confused::confused::confused:

[visor]

Totally agreed,

Totally embarrassment for not played like WR1.........no quality at all...what they actually do in training , just focusing on Korean style of play ? :confused::confused::confused:
Yah, the last time they met I believe was May 2009 at the Sudirman Cup 2009. The youngsters won 2 straight sets in 34 minutes flat. Wow, what a difference a year makes...

[george@chongwei]

Congratulations:D

LOL

COngrats:).

Today at the Yonex All England Ben Yoneyama, President of Yonex, announced to the world's media that the 421km per hour speed achieved by Malaysian Tan Boon Heong has been officially entered into the Guinness Book of World Records as the fastest smash in history.

http://www.badzine.info/images/stories/News_beg09/tan%20boon%20heong_smash.jpg

http://www.badzine.info/index.php/ne...d-records.html (http://www.badzine.info/index.php/news/international/2378-badminton-in-guinness-book-of-world-records.html)

[george@chongwei]

Training stint in Bath University for shuttlers before world meet

THE national badminton players are expected to attend two weeks of centralised training at the University of Bath before heading off to mount their challenges in the world championships in Paris from Aug 23-29.
This arrangement was made possible in an agreement between the Malaysian government and the university in bath on Tuesday.
The National Sports Institute (NSI) director general, Datuk Dr Ramlan Aziz, said yesterday that he signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with the university on behalf of the Malaysian government.
The gathering was also attended by Deputy Youth and Sports Minister Datuk Razali Ibrahim and National Sports Council (NSC) director general Datuk Zolkples Embong while the representatives from the other party included the university’s vice chancellor Glynis Breakwell, the Bath University Sports Training Village’s director of sports Kevin Edge and former English badminton star Steve Baddeley.
“Badminton will be the first sport to enjoy this successful arrangement that we have made with this university,” said Ramlan after watching world No. 1 Lee Chong Wei in action at the All-England in Birmingham with the other Malaysian delegates.
“The badminton team will get two weeks to acclimatise at the university before flying off to Paris for the world meet.”
Ramlan added that Malaysia would also make similar arrangements for the elite and back-up shuttlers prior to a major tournament in Europe.
The university will also be a forward base for training prior to the 2012 London Olympics and the 2014 Commonwealth Games in Scotland.


http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2010/3/12/sports/5850271&sec=sports

[danielwong]

Congratulations:D

LOL

COngrats:).

Today at the Yonex All England Ben Yoneyama, President of Yonex, announced to the world's media that the 421km per hour speed achieved by Malaysian Tan Boon Heong has been officially entered into the Guinness Book of World Records as the fastest smash in history.

http://www.badzine.info/images/stories/News_beg09/tan%20boon%20heong_smash.jpg

http://www.badzine.info/index.php/ne...d-records.html (http://www.badzine.info/index.php/ne...d-records.html)

wow!!! money and Fame???
should put into Malaysia Boleh News
but come when TBH lost in 1st RD of AE
not good taste at all...

[elvinteh]

wow!!! money and Fame???
should put into Malaysia Boleh News
but come when TBH lost in 1st RD of AE
not good taste at all...

GTC/TBS and CTF/LWW also advance to the 3rd round in AE.
TBH/KKK knock out in the 1st RD. :confused::confused:

[eaglehelang]

Yes, and never mind with the inconsistency........or we shd say they are probable still tired after MO, just 1.5 month of rest is too short for them....hahahaha:D:D

Haha, tsk tsk, you still didnt study the trends in depth, after all my explanation :p:p. Dont kan cheong again during Swiss Open ya.:D

[jasonmarc]

Haha, tsk tsk, you still didnt study the trends in depth, after all my explanation :p:p. Dont kan cheong again during Swiss Open ya.:D

Helang, i am not kan cheong, I even said in other thread that they need to be careful with the uncle pair,.....just dissatisfied with their extra poor performance.......:(

So is your trend telling you they are ready to defend their title in Swiss Open.....:p

They really shd adjust their trend to win some major.....:cool:

[jasonmarc]

wow!!! money and Fame???
should put into Malaysia Boleh News
but come when TBH lost in 1st RD of AE
not good taste at all...

Exactly, totally meaningless.........:o:o

[eaglehelang]

Helang, i am not kan cheong, I even said in other thread that they need to be careful with the uncle pair,.....just dissatisfied with their extra poor performance.......:(

So is your trend telling you they are ready to defend their title in Swiss Open.....:p

They really shd adjust their trend to win some major.....:cool:

Ya lah, that means you didnt study the trend right up to day before main draw start. :p:D
I also told you, this year one of the factor is TKH coming in (and the politics surrounding it). Got factor affecting them, WPT/CEH, and whole doubles dept ;)

[pBmMalaysia]

the danes has a long and good history in badminton and probably the only western country that still holds it. i am as surprise as the majority accept some who predicted their winning! good predictions but it's sad for a lot of us!

so kicking out kkk/tbh in the 1st round is by no means other than their sheer determinations which made them fearless (as rexy puts it) as they are older and considered less fitter.

however, the mas pair admitted defeat very well and they know where they failed....as tbh said 'the danes held the upper hand in service' and i wonder whether this can be interpreted as 'playing without much pressure'? or they just got their adrenalin flowing first.

now i wonder how rexy is going to alter his report card...

ot:
and the very least, as for pemuda's case, just let it be and respect the mod's decision and i have nothing much to say accept to remind us all don't go jumping ponds when you are a fish...:)

[limsy]

coz PSH have no AE, or SS titles ler...
thats the difference...and also not WR1
so no big deal
unless the loser is LYD....;););)

what the?:confused:
i am the big fans of lyd and i didnt ranting and crying or blame anything in bc after they lost in mo 2010 1st round;)

[george@chongwei]

what the?:confused:
i am the big fans of lyd and i didnt ranting and crying or blame anything in bc after they lost in mo 2010 1st round;)
i thought u are not a badminton fan?:D

[OneToughBirdie]

what the?:confused:
i am the big fans of lyd and i didnt ranting and crying or blame anything in bc after they lost in mo 2010 1st round;)

KOR people are not vocal like bolehians, win/lose baddy is no big deal so they don't rant, who give a hoot?:D:p You did not rant, cry:crying::crying::crying: or blame in BC, how do we know you did not cry:eek:in your pillow at home lah? Woohoo!!:D:p

[jasonmarc]

FromBerita Harian 13/03/2010

http://www.bharian.com.my/bharian/articles/BeregunegaracetusresahBAM/Article

[limsy]

KOR people are not vocal like bolehians, win/lose baddy is no big deal so they don't rant, who give a hoot?:D:p You did not rant, cry:crying::crying::crying: or blame in BC, how do we know you did not cry:eek:in your pillow at home lah? Woohoo!!:D:p

huh?
my 1st reaction is telling george that we will win 2 title in mo after lyd lost:D

[Dato A]

Yes, and never mind with the inconsistency........or we shd say they are probable still tired after MO, just 1.5 month of rest is too short for them....hahahaha:D:D

They cannot put same excuse everytime. After a well-prepared, they lost in just 27 minutes. And still Rexy said no big deal.:confused:


Yes, but these young MAS boys are also ex-AE champion!
And to lose in 27 minutes in straight games with such embarassing scores...:eek:

Correct. It is simply EMBARASSING. You can see the thing.


lol
every match will have a winner+a losser
so what a big deal?
did u all see korea fans crying/ranting in this forum when psh get trashed by bcl?:rolleyes:
mentality different;)

But you cant see EMBARASSMENT.

[pBmMalaysia]

They cannot put same excuse everytime. After a well-prepared, they lost in just 27 minutes. And still Rexy said no big deal.:confused:


i guess to say between 'no big deal!' and 'god, what the f... are you 2 doing?", i would definitely choose the first one! for obvious reason!

now, one can wonder how the report card's gonna be....:D

[jasonmarc]

Some one hinted,....they might have a good performance in coming Swiss Opwen.....Lets wait and see.........if not, then wait for the next one....probable ABC.....till end of the year...??? hahahaha

[limsy]

lol
if lp/jr lost in 2nd round
i think the critic will be more harsh:D
just like how the lost 21-9 in quater of ae last year to mb/cm:D

[visor]

i guess to say between 'no big deal!' and 'god, what the f... are you 2 doing?", i would definitely choose the first one! for obvious reason!
Yah, especially when a reporter is interviewing him with a mike in one hand and frantically writing quotations in the other!:D

Man, what I would give to be a fly on the wall right after that game when Rexy has the "talk" with KKK and TBH.:eek:

[pBmMalaysia]

if just the great danes can win the ae10 once again .....it will change rexy's report card:

".....................but they lost to the eventual winner."

in any tournament the first round is always the most difficult, this is understandable. for the danes or even tago, they play like nothing to loose just pure determinations..whereas any top seed player no matter how they try to play their best there is always pressure...

so i should say rexy, keep up the good work and we look forward to you and the mas team is swiss open!:D:)

[eaglehelang]

Some one hinted,....they might have a good performance in coming Swiss Opwen.....Lets wait and see.........if not, then wait for the next one....probable ABC.....till end of the year...??? hahahaha

That's another member, haha. If you see the trend, you would know. :p
I give them 50-50 chance of defending the Swiss title.
After May if Rexy goes off or TKH is made chief, it could be good or bad, there will be more changes to the trend, for whole doubles dept

The top 4 are out this AE, maybe no 5 will win it. If they do, next time we need to refer as top 5, not top 4 anymore.

[george@chongwei]

KOR people are not vocal like bolehians, win/lose baddy is no big deal so they don't rant, who give a hoot?:D:p You did not rant, cry:crying::crying::crying: or blame in BC, how do we know you did not cry:eek:in your pillow at home lah? Woohoo!!:D:p
so what can u consider yourself as? canadian? jia you-ians, or onetoughbirdian?:p:D woohoo! let's celebrate later on tonight.

[visor]

So, there ya go... Rexy and TBH/KKK don't need to feel dejected anymore by being ousted by JR/LP in the first round, because.... JR/LP has taken the AE MD title!!!:eek::eek::D:D

So, Rexy's job is still safe ... for now...

[ctjcad]

So, there ya go... Rexy and TBH/KKK don't need to feel dejected anymore by being ousted by JR/LP in the first round, because.... JR/LP has taken the AE MD title!!!:eek::eek::D:D

So, Rexy's job is still safe ... for now...
..it's happened to Ah Koo & Ah Tan & Rexy before..
KKK & TBH were bundled out in the 1st round of the 2008 AE by a JPN pair who went all the way to the Semis (before losing to the eventual champions)..

[badMania]

..it's happened to Ah Koo & Ah Tan & Rexy before..
KKK & TBH were bundled out in the 1st round of the 2008 AE by a JPN pair who went all the way to the Semis (before losing to the eventual champions)..

They lost to the eventual winner in the Beijing Olympics too ;)

[BadFever]

You PAWer's should PAW on whoever that beat Ah Koo & Ah Tan to be the eventual winner for the tournament. Quite high percentage though. :p

[pBmMalaysia]

rexy may be able to come up with a good report card as the danes took the trophy but he will be wondering ' how the heck these 2 veterans can put up such a display and won ':)

[undeadshot]

KKK/TBH's result can make us predict who will win, hehe but how about Japan Open first round? :p (2009)

[Dato A]

So, there ya go... Rexy and TBH/KKK don't need to feel dejected anymore by being ousted by JR/LP in the first round, because.... JR/LP has taken the AE MD title!!!:eek::eek::D:D

So, Rexy's job is still safe ... for now...

They are still safe even if JR/LP being eliminated after KKK/TBH's match. Because they are still the best pair that BAM have at the moment.

They just have to find other excuses next time when they fail to win. Assure that the excuses given is not repeated, then they are safe, including their coach Rexy.

[limsy]

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/71muruswiss-2/Article/index_html

Kien Keat-Boon Heong reach Swiss Open final for third time
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2010/3/21/sports/5906018&sec=sports

will they win their 8th ss?:)

[cooler]

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/71muruswiss-2/Article/index_html

Kien Keat-Boon Heong reach Swiss Open final for third time
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2010/3/21/sports/5906018&sec=sports

will they win their 8th ss?:)



malaysia lost... ricky in deep **** again

nope hehehe.

it seem their win over boe/moe was likely because boe/moe was tired after AE. Now can't beat some KOR younsters.

[eaglehelang]

Haha, sure Jasonmarc will ask, answer is : yup, they went according to the trend I predicted. Rexy went with them to Swiss ;)
It affects the whole doubles dept. Could be for a couple of months, or until end of 2010(if Rexy leaves June/July), depending how the politics goes

[amilia21]

They 2 hit the shuttlecock all half court to give chance for the Koreans to smash..and they both also put the shuttlecock hit to allow the Koreans to smash even more...Like that how to win??lolz..

[pBmMalaysia]

indeed, half courts for young koreans to smash as they need extra practice for coming tc!

[cooler]

indeed, half courts for young koreans to smash as they need extra practice for coming tc!so, they are so confident like LD, and like to donate? did rexy ask them to donate?

[pauline]

Can't believe they lost 2 easy sets to the young koreans. There goes all the criticism and Rexy issue and whatnot.
No eyes see. >.<

[ctjcad]

So, back to back failures for them at the twin European tourneys.

Prof. J and Asst. Prof L, are you guys ready to rumble one more time?:confused::p

[cooler]

Can't believe they lost 2 easy sets to the young koreans. There goes all the criticism and Rexy issue and whatnot.
No eyes see. >.<
u forgot the ears too:D

[cooler]

So, back to back failures for them at the twin European tourneys.

Prof. J and Asst. Prof L, are you guys ready to rumble one more time?:confused::p
who's prof. J???

[skchen]

Can't believe they lost 2 easy sets to the young koreans. There goes all the criticism and Rexy issue and whatnot.
No eyes see. >.<

__________________________________________________ _________________

KKK/TBH just did not have the ummph to play against the unseeded junior Korean pair who deserved their win of 21-18 21-16 in the 2010 SO MD final.
They played nonchalantly in the first game letting the Korean chalk up points
after points and the game was over in quick time.
KKK/TBH played their usual explosive game initially in the second game chalking up a
13-6 lead but it was downhill after that.
That should not be for the number 1 pair in the world. :crying::crying::crying:


__________________________________________________ __________________

[pBmMalaysia]

so, they are so confident like LD, and like to donate? did rexy ask them to donate?

rexy was there and why kkk/tbh still couldn't overcome that? obviously these 2 got the pressure up to their neck and they were just surviving.... even bc member amelia21 noticed that..

i wonder how rexy's gonna respond to this :D:D

[cooler]

rexy was there and why kkk/tbh still couldn't overcome that? obviously these 2 got the pressure up to their neck and they were just surviving.... even bc member amelia21 noticed that..

i wonder how rexy's gonna respond to this :D:Di suggest u postpone your pursuit on 'how to beat lin dan' secrets and pass on your 'how to win' secrets to rexy or kkk/tbh themselves:p

[pBmMalaysia]

i suggest u postpone your pursuit on 'how to beat lin dan' secrets and pass on your 'how to win' secrets to rexy or kkk/tbh themselves:p

aha! you are tricky or plain innocent? ;)
i think rexy is capable of handling that and should be working hard with tkh. give them some time as i am sure they need it:D

[koaylt]

__________________________________________________ _________________

KKK/TBH just did not have the ummph to play against the unseeded junior Korean pair who deserved their win of 21-18 21-16 in the 2010 SO MD final.
They played nonchalantly in the first game letting the Korean chalk up points
after points and the game was over in quick time.
KKK/TBH played their usual explosive game initially in the second game chalking up a
13-6 lead but it was downhill after that.
That should not be for the number 1 pair in the world. :crying::crying::crying:
__________________________________________________ __________________

Nonchalant is the word. How can a coach or the players themselves allow this type of attitude to exist in the game? When you have no commitment, the opponents take advantage. They become fearless and you fearful. The lackadaisical attitude must have been ingrained even in training. That's why it creeps into their competitive games all too often.

Kudos for the Koreans who played with total commitment. This is the Korean secret that the world can learn from this....

[jasonmarc]

Nonchalant is the word. How can a coach or the players themselves allow this type of attitude to exist in the game? When you have no commitment, the opponents take advantage. They become fearless and you fearful. The lackadaisical attitude must have been ingrained even in training. That's why it creeps into their competitive games all too often.

Kudos for the Koreans who played with total commitment. This is the Korean secret that the world can learn from this....

Yes, nonchalant is a very bad attitude in their match..........a very un-professional one..! :rolleyes:...:cool:

[olympic]

Really dissappointed after watching that match.Just a day after they eliminated the more fancied Danes,KKK-TBH eventually lost to the Korean back-up pair.I wonder KKK-TBH were unprepared for that match or just "looked-down" the unseeded Koreans??As always attitude and mind-set are the biggest obstacles for KKK-TBH.In other words,they themselves are the biggest enemies of themselves!
Anyway,kudos to the young Koreans.