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sihar 02-11-2007, 07:05 AM BIG FOUR IN AE 07
MS:
1.Taufik never won AE. I think he will give his best effort to be the winner.:)
2.Lin Dan
3-4.Bao Chunlai & Peter Gade
MD:
1.Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan:)
2.Cai Yu / Fu Haifeng
3-4.Candra/Tony & Ko KK/Tan BH
WS: all chinesse semifinal. i don't care WS. This is a boring game:mad:
WD: 3 Chinesse pair + Vita Marissa/G Polii
XD:
1.Nova W/L Natsir:)
2.Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms
3-4. Zheng Bo / Gao Ling & Flandy/Vita
of course...3 titles for INDONESIAAAAAAAAAAAAA...:):):):p:p:p
:D:D:D
Syaoran_Style 02-11-2007, 08:07 AM Okay .. but it's not "predictions", it's more "which players you want to see winning the All England" ..
Baderz_Jas 02-11-2007, 10:25 AM I predict:
MS- LD or TH
WS- China
MD- No idea now :confused: Very even :p
WD- China
XD- ZB/GL :) They are a great pair!
indra 02-11-2007, 09:42 PM I predict:
MS- LD or TH
WS- China
MD- No idea now :confused: Very even :p
WD- China
XD- ZB/GL :) They are a great pair!
why do you think TH will win?
tjl_vanguard 02-11-2007, 09:47 PM BIG FOUR IN AE 07
MS:
1.Taufik never won AE. I think he will give his best effort to be the winner.:)
2.Lin Dan
3-4.Bao Chunlai & Peter Gade
MD:
1.Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan:)
2.Cai Yu / Fu Haifeng
3-4.Candra/Tony & Ko KK/Tan BH
WS: all chinesse semifinal. i don't care WS. This is a boring game:mad:
WD: 3 Chinesse pair + Vita Marissa/G Polii
XD:
1.Nova W/L Natsir:)
2.Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms
3-4. Zheng Bo / Gao Ling & Flandy/Vita
of course...3 titles for INDONESIAAAAAAAAAAAAA...:):):):p:p:p
:D:D:D
yo friend... that not a prediction.. thats who u like to win.. haha
tjl_vanguard 02-11-2007, 09:48 PM why do you think TH will win?
hey indra.. i tot ur No.1 TH fan.. y do u ask tat question now?? hahaha :D
tjl_vanguard 02-11-2007, 09:52 PM MS - TH, LD, LCW, PGC
MD - KKK/TBH, TG/CW, LYD/JJS
WS - CHN
WD - CHN (Hopefully Gao Ling & Huang Sui :))
XD - ZB/GL, GE/NR
indra 02-11-2007, 09:55 PM hey indra.. i tot ur No.1 TH fan.. y do u ask tat question now?? hahaha :D
I want to know opinions from others first....I will give my opinions on this "Special Issue" later...
It is true that TH has been concentrating and training very seriously for this year AE. His mind is set on this event. You will see the same TH as the last AG Final.:D
cooler 02-11-2007, 10:30 PM I want to know opinions from others first....I will give my opinions on this "Special Issue" later...
It is true that TH has been concentrating and training very seriously for this year AE. His mind is set on this event. You will see the same TH as the last AG Final.:D
in that case, that's just fine coz LD wont be the same LD like he was at 06 AG:p
cooler 02-11-2007, 10:32 PM BIG FOUR IN AE 07
MS:
1.Taufik never won AE. I think he will give his best effort to be the winner.:)
2.Lin Dan
3-4.Bao Chunlai & Peter Gade
MD:
1.Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan:)
2.Cai Yu / Fu Haifeng
3-4.Candra/Tony & Ko KK/Tan BH
WS: all chinesse semifinal. i don't care WS. This is a boring game:mad:
WD: 3 Chinesse pair + Vita Marissa/G Polii
XD:
1.Nova W/L Natsir:)
2.Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms
3-4. Zheng Bo / Gao Ling & Flandy/Vita
of course...3 titles for INDONESIAAAAAAAAAAAAA...:):):):p:p:p
:D:D:D that's obvious, you're from INA LOL
GunBlade008 02-11-2007, 10:58 PM I think Tony/Candra have a good chance of winning it, but I'll say that LYD/JJS will also have a slightly bigger chance of winning the AE. Taufik for AE2007, this is one of the biggest tournaments that he has not yet won yet, no better time than the present! Mixed - Zheng Bo/Gao Ling to prove that they're the most dominate mixed pairing right now.
Angelou 02-12-2007, 12:13 AM MS -
Taufik or Lin Dan and I do hope it would be a final between the two.
MD
Very hard to say now.
KKK/TBH - I think this pair has the momentum going for them right now. Plus when i saw Koo in the MO open he was in control of his emotions.
TG/CW - If Wijaya brings out the best in himself.
LJJ/HJM - If the Confidence is there. A good example of them losing confidence or concentration was in doha, but they got lucky since their opponents didn't have synergy.
LYD/JJS - If the Confidence is there. A good example of them losing confidence or concentration was in doha
WS - Too Obvious, bring back Susi and Camila ! Though it can get interesting with Zhu Lin or Jiang YianJiao (Spelling?)
WD - The Japanese and the Koreans to challenge the Chinese might ?
MXD - The Pair I don't want to see ? Robertson and Emms, their court antics p!ss me off. I have no respect this pair.
On another thought, I would like to see a pair test the mental and physical ability of zheng bo and gao ling and in particular Zheng Bo. Though to be honest I don't think I've seen any stability among the other mixed pairs, besides Laybourn and Juhl. And what about Zhang Yawen and Her Partner ? Ehh... IMO they can get far but I think they are intimidated by Gao Ling.
tjl_vanguard 02-12-2007, 02:23 AM I want to know opinions from others first....I will give my opinions on this "Special Issue" later...
It is true that TH has been concentrating and training very seriously for this year AE. His mind is set on this event. You will see the same TH as the last AG Final.:D
i think TH can make.. so far, whenever he says he is focused on something that he wants to get his hands on, he gets it....
e.g. AG '06.. after WC '06 he said he is concentrating more on AG and he wants to win.. apparently, he DID haha :D
X Ball 02-12-2007, 03:11 AM i think TH can make.. so far, whenever he says he is focused on something that he wants to get his hands on, he gets it....
e.g. AG '06.. after WC '06 he said he is concentrating more on AG and he wants to win.. apparently, he DID haha :D
I will be so bold to predict it will be a fight between LCW and TH in the final, the Chinese will lose along the way. Sorry if I spoil you ego if you were not going for them.
phaarix 02-12-2007, 04:10 AM I'd predict that if the draw allows, Lin Dan VS Taufik in the MS Final. I can't deny that I really would like TH to win it though! If not then I guess I'll be cheering on CJ or PG? Maybe LCW if he gets back on track? I'm fully expecting at least one of TH or LD to be in the final though. I will be shocked if neither are!
MD I would say KKK/TBH, followed closely by TG/CW and LYD/JJS, followed by MK/HS and FH/CY. They all seem to be relatively even at the moment so I can't really predict a winner out of them. I also like most of the pairs so I don't know who to cheer for either :D!
The rest I'm not too keen on. They don't excite me so much. But that's just me.
If there are any big upsets in WS WD or XD then I will probably get interested however. I think ZB and GL will win the XD though.
Dreamzz 02-12-2007, 04:46 AM I will be so bold to predict it will be a fight between LCW and TH in the final, the Chinese will lose along the way. Sorry if I spoil you ego if you were not going for them.
that's fairly unlikely, you're becoming as bad as indra! LCW has not shown any significant form lately, although he did win the national GP, but that's not really saying much. i would be amazed if there wasn't at least one MS from CHN in the finals. the only 2 people currently who could spoil it for them is TH and PG, but it all depends on the draw they get.
as for MD, well well, i would say the koreans won't get past the semis this time, not without home ground advantage. TG/CW, KKK/TBH, CY/FHF, MK/HS and JE/ML will be my best bets for the semis. again, because KKK/TBH will still be unseeded, the draw will be interesting.
X Ball 02-12-2007, 06:22 AM that's fairly unlikely, you're becoming as bad as indra! LCW has not shown any significant form lately, although he did win the national GP, but that's not really saying much. i would be amazed if there wasn't at least one MS from CHN in the finals. the only 2 people currently who could spoil it for them is TH and PG, but it all depends on the draw they get.
As much as I would like to agree with everyone that the Chinese are hot, my selection is based on the fact that LCW did have a problem focusing with Li Mao's departure.
We have seen how he can take many points of Lin Dan and others in a row and that is no easy feat. I think he had been not playing up to his ability for some time now. It surprised me somewhat and I figure it has to do with Li Mao. With Li Mao gone, I think a certain amount of weight is taken off his shoulders as Li Mao must have been putting a bit of pressure on LCW (knowing LCW had to perform if he, Li Mao, is to get his contract signed).
I think this is not just fabrication of my part, and I think any truth to this would be proven if LCW wins the AE 07. In my mind, Li Mao, unfortunately was the 'Mickey on his back' -- too much was expected of LCW so much so he choked every time he was losing a bit. In fact, I noticed (and I am pretty sure everyone too) he was not playing his usual confident game (and he stuttered a lot).
Li Mao is a very hard man and even though he gets a lot out his players, he can be his own worse enemy. When the chips are down, he panics (probably because he needs to feel secure himself), and I think BAM panicked him when they did not renew his contract. In his panicky state, he could have passed his negativity across to his star player. It is blatantly so because I felt LCW had lost his winning form in such a short time at the end.
With the recent win in Proton Open, I think he has perked up a bit and proved that Li Mao's leaving was not going to affect his play at all, given his easy wins all the way. This attitude might be the change for him to go on back to his form which took him to No.1.
I stand to be proven wrong of course if he does nothing in the AE 07 but I am confident he is back to his best !
Alaric 02-12-2007, 08:02 AM MXD - The Pair I don't want to see ? Robertson and Emms, their court antics p!ss me off. I have no respect this pair.
What do they do that annoys you so much? :confused:
MS
I would like to see TH win, but I think LD will be too strong for him.
MD
Will be cheering for TG & CW but I think either Fu Haifeng & Cai Yun or KKK & TBH will win.
XD
Really hope that Emms & Robertson can win, but I think Gao Ling and Zheng Bo are playing too well at the moment.
WS
Zhang Ning
WD
Gao Ling & Huang Sui
But I am going along for finals days so I can find out for myself! :D
Dreamzz 02-12-2007, 08:29 AM As much as I would like to agree with everyone that the Chinese are hot, my selection is based on the fact that LCW did have a problem focusing with Li Mao's departure.
We have seen how he can take many points of Lin Dan and others in a row and that is no easy feat. I think he had been not playing up to his ability for some time now. It surprised me somewhat and I figure it has to do with Li Mao. With Li Mao gone, I think a certain amount of weight is taken off his shoulders as Li Mao must have been putting a bit of pressure on LCW (knowing LCW had to perform if he, Li Mao, is to get his contract signed).
I think this is not just fabrication of my part, and I think any truth to this would be proven if LCW wins the AE 07. In my mind, Li Mao, unfortunately was the 'Mickey on his back' -- too much was expected of LCW so much so he choked every time he was losing a bit. In fact, I noticed (and I am pretty sure everyone too) he was not playing his usual confident game (and he stuttered a lot).
Li Mao is a very hard man and even though he gets a lot out his players, he can be his own worse enemy. When the chips are down, he panics (probably because he needs to feel secure himself), and I think BAM panicked him when they did not renew his contract. In his panicky state, he could have passed his negativity across to his star player. It is blatantly so because I felt LCW had lost his winning form in such a short time at the end.
With the recent win in Proton Open, I think he has perked up a bit and proved that Li Mao's leaving was not going to affect his play at all, given his easy wins all the way. This attitude might be the change for him to go on back to his form which took him to No.1.
I stand to be proven wrong of course if he does nothing in the AE 07 but I am confident he is back to his best !
well, i hope you're right, it'll take an international success to convince me that he's up for it. only time will tell, can't wait for the AE to start ...
Dreamzz 02-12-2007, 08:29 AM What do they do that annoys you so much? :confused:
MS
I would like to see TH win, but I think LD will be too strong for him.
MD
Will be cheering for TG & CW but I think either Fu Haifeng & Cai Yun or KKK & TBH will win.
XD
Really hope that Emms & Robertson can win, but I think Gao Ling and Zheng Bo are playing too well at the moment.
WS
Zhang Ning
WD
Gao Ling & Huang Sui
But I am going along for finals days so I can find out for myself! :D
take pictures!!!
bananaboy 02-12-2007, 01:43 PM I will be so bold to predict it will be a fight between LCW and TH in the final, the Chinese will lose along the way. Sorry if I spoil you ego if you were not going for them.
The last time LCW defeated either TH, PG, BCL or LD went back to months and months ago + their previous meetings all resulted in LCW's defeat. Then all of a sudden, you can be so bold as to say LCW will defeat most of them to get to the final???:confused: This is ALL-ENGLAND, and it is not held in Malaysia any more.:p LCW has a good chance to reach the semi-finals, only because CH is retired, and LHI probably won't be playing since he left Korea national team.
Peter Gade is in the best form out of the top players right now, consider him winning 3 tournaments in a row since Cop. Masters until the recent Denmark national. He is riding on the most aggressive momentum right now.
tjl_vanguard 02-12-2007, 08:43 PM The last time LCW defeated either TH, PG, BCL or LD went back to months and months ago + their previous meetings all resulted in LCW's defeat. Then all of a sudden, you can be so bold as to say LCW will defeat most of them to get to the final???:confused: This is ALL-ENGLAND, and it is not held in Malaysia any more.:p LCW has a good chance to reach the semi-finals, only because CH is retired, and LHI probably won't be playing since he left Korea national team.
Peter Gade is in the best form out of the top players right now, consider him winning 3 tournaments in a row since Cop. Masters until the recent Denmark national. He is riding on the most aggressive momentum right now.
They turned the tables on LCW.. LCW used to win BCL and has a very good record against him but now he lost twice in a row... u never know maybe LCW can win BCL again.... its up to players themselves... u can decide who to win.. but yea can't say that LCW will win all en route to finals looking at his recent performance... he had poor runs in Korea n his own homesoil....
but looking at his performance in Nat GP, he is playing better and better and he said he full confident to take the world again.. oh well, just wait and see.. action speaks louder den a million words....
tjl_vanguard 02-12-2007, 08:45 PM well, i hope you're right, it'll take an international success to convince me that he's up for it. only time will tell, can't wait for the AE to start ...
yes... winning in own local circuit won't show anything... its the international TITLES that makes differences...
tjl_vanguard 02-12-2007, 08:54 PM As much as I would like to agree with everyone that the Chinese are hot, my selection is based on the fact that LCW did have a problem focusing with Li Mao's departure.
We have seen how he can take many points of Lin Dan and others in a row and that is no easy feat. I think he had been not playing up to his ability for some time now. It surprised me somewhat and I figure it has to do with Li Mao. With Li Mao gone, I think a certain amount of weight is taken off his shoulders as Li Mao must have been putting a bit of pressure on LCW (knowing LCW had to perform if he, Li Mao, is to get his contract signed).
I think this is not just fabrication of my part, and I think any truth to this would be proven if LCW wins the AE 07. In my mind, Li Mao, unfortunately was the 'Mickey on his back' -- too much was expected of LCW so much so he choked every time he was losing a bit. In fact, I noticed (and I am pretty sure everyone too) he was not playing his usual confident game (and he stuttered a lot).
Li Mao is a very hard man and even though he gets a lot out his players, he can be his own worse enemy. When the chips are down, he panics (probably because he needs to feel secure himself), and I think BAM panicked him when they did not renew his contract. In his panicky state, he could have passed his negativity across to his star player. It is blatantly so because I felt LCW had lost his winning form in such a short time at the end.
With the recent win in Proton Open, I think he has perked up a bit and proved that Li Mao's leaving was not going to affect his play at all, given his easy wins all the way. This attitude might be the change for him to go on back to his form which took him to No.1.
I stand to be proven wrong of course if he does nothing in the AE 07 but I am confident he is back to his best !
that's the problem with coaches... they are just trying to save their own a** from being fired.. the moment they receive offers they leave straight away cuz they dun wanna be jobless... its a good thing Li Mao leaves cuz this shows that he isn't so committed in bringing up Mas singles... if he is really committed to do that, he would have at least tell BAM n discuss with them about the contract offered by Korean BA.. apparently, BAM only get to know about it after he SIGNED the contract....
maybe LCW has already one burden off, that is trying to get his coach (Li Mao) to stay.. since LM leaving just let him be.. it doesn seems to matter anymore at this point...
LCW has also shown some signs of "revival" in recent GP Finals... he seems to have get his game back.. more confident, more steady.... just hope he can cope with the pressure (as he knows that the other singles players still not up to challenge in international arena)....
Mas really bring up more singles players... and SOON... running out of time...:eek:
utopia_imminent 02-12-2007, 09:19 PM malaysian players are good. but, they have probs when playing out of malaysia. they need the help of the crowd to boost their confidence.
CLELY 02-12-2007, 09:56 PM Still 3 weeks again (the drawing will be out next week,is it true??) but many predictions here...
MS : TH -->based on his ambition and hard efforts/exercises to win his elusive title. The biggest rival of course CHN Four - LD/CJ/BCL/CY.
WS : the Chinese
MD : KKK/TBH
WD : hmm, no need to predict
XD : Chinese new-combination or the host pair.
ronnie14 02-12-2007, 11:25 PM honestly i think taufik will win as he said dat he has not yet win the AE n is aiming for it ths year..so hands up for taufik ! n to Lee chong wei..hope to see him atleast in the semis..
tjl_vanguard 02-12-2007, 11:46 PM Still 3 weeks again (the drawing will be out next week,is it true??) but many predictions here...
MS : TH -->based on his ambition and hard efforts/exercises to win his elusive title. The biggest rival of course CHN Four - LD/CJ/BCL/CY.
WS : the Chinese
MD : KKK/TBH
WD : hmm, no need to predict
XD : Chinese new-combination or the host pair.
I TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT!!!!! TH will win and winner will TH be.. haha same goes to KKK/TBH!!!!!
hydrocyanic 02-13-2007, 12:05 AM this kind of thread always ends up with conversation about "my country is better"...
if we look at the originate countries(malay, indo, chn) the posters are from, 80% of the times we will see the nation's player in the winner's list
its a little boring, dudes...
as for ppl saying all chinese finals in ws is boring, isn't ththe problem lays mainly on the countries who does not have the talent/focus/resource/you name it to create a first-class woman single player?
its not chinese's fault on winning, but its the others' fault on losing, you guys are saying as if winners are losers, and thats bad attitude
same goes with ppl saying china's domination (in blah) is not healthy...
what should the dominating country do? send their troops around the world or stop training?
oh wait, if at somepoint TH or LCW or KKK/? are winning, you guys will be happy and never mention the phrase "domination is not healthy"
ok, i am ready to get flamed now :p
X Ball 02-13-2007, 12:36 AM this kind of thread always ends up with conversation about "my country is better"...
if we look at the originate countries(malay, indo, chn) the posters are from, 80% of the times we will see the nation's player in the winner's list
its a little boring, dudes...
as for ppl saying all chinese finals in ws is boring, isn't ththe problem lays mainly on the countries who does not have the talent/focus/resource/you name it to create a first-class woman single player?
its not chinese's fault on winning, but its the others' fault on losing, you guys are saying as if winners are losers, and thats bad attitude
same goes with ppl saying china's domination (in blah) is not healthy...
what should the dominating country do? send their troops around the world or stop training?
oh wait, if at somepoint TH or LCW or KKK/? are winning, you guys will be happy and never mention the phrase "domination is not healthy"
Ok, i am ready to get flamed now :p
Freedom of speech always come with a bias or slant -- so expect that.:)
Is it boring ? May not be if presented with a good rationale.
Armotec500 02-13-2007, 12:45 AM For MS, I predict Hafiz Hashim will win the title :eek: ;)
He is improving a lots, Hafiz Hashim for sure will create the greatest upset to win his 2nd AE MS Title this year :p:D
p/s - please don't flame me, i just try to boost Hafiz confidence by supporting him this year...wake up HAfizzz!!! :cool::p
pramilainc 02-13-2007, 02:44 AM My predictions: Winner / Runners up,
MS: PG / LD
WS: Not China / China
MD: JE/MLH / TG/CW
WD: China / China
MX: GE/NR / GL/ZB
Disclaimer: I base this on absolutely nothing...
pramilainc 02-13-2007, 02:48 AM For MS, I predict Hafiz Hashim will win the title :eek: ;)
...
p/s - please don't flame me, i just try to boost Hafiz confidence by supporting him this year...wake up HAfizzz!!! :cool::p
- No, ppl will pity you instead :p
pramilainc 02-13-2007, 02:56 AM that's the problem with coaches... they are just trying to save their own a** from being fired.. the moment they receive offers they leave straight away cuz they dun wanna be jobless... its a good thing Li Mao leaves cuz this shows that he isn't so committed in bringing up Mas singles... if he is really committed to do that, he would have at least tell BAM n discuss with them about the contract offered by Korean BA.. apparently, BAM only get to know about it after he SIGNED the contract....
...
May be Li Mao is frustrated that all his effort in Malaysia is not paying dividends, LCW has been on steady decline since WC, and there aren't many upcoming prospects to speak of. Maybe he thought he'd rather spend his effort else where...
Badminton coaches need job satisfaction too...
taufik-ist 02-13-2007, 05:36 AM My predictions: Winner / Runners up,
MS: PG / LD
WS: Not China / China
MD: JE/MLH / TG/CW
WD: China / China
MX: GE/NR / GL/ZB
Disclaimer: I base this on absolutely nothing...
th is still in your black list :)
di he 'hurt' you so much :p
Tommy Susanto 02-13-2007, 09:14 AM malaysian players are good. but, they have probs when playing out of malaysia. they need the help of the crowd to boost their confidence.
I suppose crowd support can help your Kendrick Lee in Singapore?:D:D
Dreamzz 02-13-2007, 09:25 AM I suppose crowd support can help your Kendrick Lee in Singapore?:D:D
hahahaha, nailed!
:p :p
pramilainc 02-13-2007, 09:58 AM th is still in your black list :)
di he 'hurt' you so much :p
It has nothing to do with black list now, just that I think on current form LD and PG are better than TH.
I also think LD on better form than PG, but I wanna see PG win some major titles...
Dreamzz 02-13-2007, 10:27 AM It has nothing to do with black list now, just that I think on current form LD and PG are better than TH.
I also think LD on better form than PG, but I wanna see PG win some major titles...
well, he did win the first ever super series, so that's pretty major.
i think he'll have a strong showing in the AE, he managed to get some rest before the danish nationals (which he won, unsurprisingly) so i have pretty high hopes for him in birmingham.
Morten 02-13-2007, 05:03 PM LD will be the major favourite in each tournament no matter what. learn to face it and put that patroism back in disguise :) . Contenders will be based on current form Bao and PG as biggest contenders and then the rest of the top 10. But none can match LD when it comes to consistency and thats what some of his rivals lacks. Bao and Gade is getting close but not close enough in my opinion. TH well he can play wonderfully, but again even if he plays 100% people like LD, PG, BAO actually holds a better record head to head and might give him a hard challenge. For LCW to perform well depends a lot on the first rounds since he relies heavily on his confidence and still needs to mature mentally.
I don't think Malaysia will win any title in All England as the departure of Li Mao plus the delay announcement of continuity contract for coaches are yet to finalize create lots of uncertainty for players and coaches. I don't even know how's the coaching program going for LCW, WCH, ... Furthermore, LCW doesn't have quality sparring sessions compare to China with Bao, Lin Dan, Chen Jin, Chen Yu.
Come to think of it again, I do think Malaysia will win the MD title this year by sending so many good teams, is all about the probability :D
Joyous 02-13-2007, 06:55 PM I agree with Morten. Consistency comes with discipline & that's why LD collected 7 titles last yr. LD may not match TH, PG or LCW for that matter in certain departments because there is no perfect player. However, I believe he uses his mental faculty i.e. rely on his strength & exploit the weaknesses of others.
Men's single is so competitive - to win 7 titles in a yr is not an easy feat. When the curtain eventually comes down for LD, I will remember him better than the Chinese player who won the Olympic gold medal some yrs ago - --- Xinpeng (can't remember his name).
Armotec500 02-13-2007, 07:26 PM - No, ppl will pity you instead :p
Hahaha sure, i know my prediction is not realistic based on Hafiz's record so far but i will support Hafiz anyway :D
LD, LCW, PG, TH, BCL,CJ etc already have a lot of fans, so maybe what Hafiz need now is one die-hard fan to boost his confidence :rolleyes:
tjl_vanguard 02-13-2007, 08:27 PM May be Li Mao is frustrated that all his effort in Malaysia is not paying dividends, LCW has been on steady decline since WC, and there aren't many upcoming prospects to speak of. Maybe he thought he'd rather spend his effort else where...
Badminton coaches need job satisfaction too...
haha i might refer that as unprofessional....
i mean like if ur really sincere and honest in ur job, wadever happens, u will still try to bring LCW back to where he was or push him further....
apparently its like the Captain abandoning his sinking ship...
X Ball 02-13-2007, 11:00 PM haha i might refer that as unprofessional....
i mean like if ur really sincere and honest in ur job, wadever happens, u will still try to bring LCW back to where he was or push him further....
apparently its like the Captain abandoning his sinking ship...
I think it is more of a case of Li Mao expressing his own rights - that is if BAM cannot get their act together in time, he is not going to hang around and be seen like he has no other option to go for.
By taking the Korean job, he is actually telling BAM how to act next time --- and that is not to take people for granted and to get their act together early, particularly when you are employing a professional like Li Mao.
My advice to BAM/NSC is not do this again as it is not right. Even if you were going to be late, you must tell the guy what your thoughts are -- i.e. whether it includes re-hiring them. And you must convince the guy to stay. Obviously, this did not happen and Li Mao was not going to hang around to find out and potentially miss out on a possible job with Korea. I am pretty sure Malaysia would have represented a better choice than Korea for him.
tjl_vanguard 02-13-2007, 11:33 PM I think it is more of a case of Li Mao expressing his own rights - that is if BAM cannot get their act together in time, he is not going to hang around and be seen like he has no other option to go for.
By taking the Korean job, he is actually telling BAM how to act next time --- and that is not to take people for granted and to get their act together early, particularly when you are employing a professional like Li Mao.
My advice to BAM/NSC is not do this again as it is not right. Even if you were going to be late, you must tell the guy what your thoughts are -- i.e. whether it includes re-hiring them. And you must convince the guy to stay. Obviously, this did not happen and Li Mao was not going to hang around to find out and potentially miss out on a possible job with Korea. I am pretty sure Malaysia would have represented a better choice than Korea for him.
In this case, BAM n NSC is directly responsible to his departure.. they must realize that Li Mao is not the type of coach who is unwanted by ppl.. EGO.. thats wad i can say about NSC... not only badminton.. happens to other sports as well...
tjl_vanguard 02-13-2007, 11:34 PM Hahaha sure, i know my prediction is not realistic based on Hafiz's record so far but i will support Hafiz anyway :D
LD, LCW, PG, TH, BCL,CJ etc already have a lot of fans, so maybe what Hafiz need now is one die-hard fan to boost his confidence :rolleyes:
which i think there probably won't be any hahahaah
taufik-ist 02-13-2007, 11:47 PM Hahaha sure, i know my prediction is not realistic based on Hafiz's record so far but i will support Hafiz anyway :D
LD, LCW, PG, TH, BCL,CJ etc already have a lot of fans, so maybe what Hafiz need now is one die-hard fan to boost his confidence :rolleyes:
ya.. someone like INDRA :D :D :p
Armotec500 02-14-2007, 12:52 AM which i think there probably won't be any hahahaah
Hahahaha :D
it seems that i'm the only supporter for Hafiz now :p
Anyway, realistically if we based on current performance, LD/PG/CJ have a big chance to win the ms title :)
Armotec500 02-14-2007, 12:58 AM ya.. someone like INDRA :D :D :p
Agreed, one fanatic fan like INDRA will help Hafiz playing better in the coming tournaments ;) :p
That's why TH managed to win most ms title in major tournaments despite being inconsistent :D
Krisna 02-14-2007, 03:25 AM this kind of thread always ends up with conversation about "my country is better"...
if we look at the originate countries(malay, indo, chn) the posters are from, 80% of the times we will see the nation's player in the winner's list
its a little boring, dudes...
ok, i am ready to get flamed now :p
My country is good but not necessarily dominant and surely not better than before... :p
Ok, with that out of the way, I predict:
MS: Taufik Hidayat! :D
WS: Xie Xinfang
MD: an English Pair [this is a bold prediction :cool: ]
WD: Gao Ling - Huang Sui [this is a low risk prediction :o ]
XD: Lili Natsir - Nova Widianto [they are more relaxed, they will do well]
MaLiq 02-14-2007, 11:16 AM Hahahaha :D
it seems that i'm the only supporter for Hafiz now :p
Anyway, realistically if we based on current performance, LD/PG/CJ have a big chance to win the ms title :)
armotec500..im with U!!haha....cuz im a supporter of hafiz too....:D :D :D
we may b one of the few who supports him but heck, he's still 1 of my fav players..:D (dun ask why..haha)..:p ..come on hafiz!!!pls dun diasappoint us!!!haha..
for other events-
MS : TH
MD : KKK/TBH
WS : anybody from CHN..hmm..mayb XXF
WD : my fav GL/HS
XD : KKK/WPT?..haha..at least reach the s-finals pls...the winner i think is the unstoppable GL/ZB
twinshk 02-14-2007, 11:45 AM So who is more hard-core Taufik's fans ? You or Indra :D ? Or the same ? :p
ya.. someone like INDRA :D :D :p
tjl_vanguard 02-14-2007, 06:17 PM Hahahaha :D
it seems that i'm the only supporter for Hafiz now :p
Anyway, realistically if we based on current performance, LD/PG/CJ have a big chance to win the ms title :)
haha now ur talking sense hahaha....
tjl_vanguard 02-14-2007, 06:20 PM My country is good but not necessarily dominant and surely not better than before... :p
Ok, with that out of the way, I predict:
MS: Taufik Hidayat! :D
WS: Xie Xinfang
MD: an English Pair [this is a bold prediction :cool: ]
WD: Gao Ling - Huang Sui [this is a low risk prediction :o ]
XD: Lili Natsir - Nova Widianto [they are more relaxed, they will do well]
yes it is haha :D:D:D:eek:
chemile 02-14-2007, 06:52 PM For MS, I predict Hafiz Hashim will win the title :eek: ;)
He is improving a lots, Hafiz Hashim for sure will create the greatest upset to win his 2nd AE MS Title this year :p:D
p/s - please don't flame me, i just try to boost Hafiz confidence by supporting him this year...wake up HAfizzz!!! :cool::p
LOL, again. This is not prediction, this is the player you who want to be a winner!
Armotec500 02-14-2007, 08:28 PM LOL, again. This is not prediction, this is the player you who want to be a winner!
Cool down man, i know it is not a prediction, i just want to make this thread more entertaining :p, sorry if some of you feel :mad:...
tjl_vanguard 02-14-2007, 08:31 PM LOL, again. This is not prediction, this is the player you who want to be a winner!
hmm... freedom of speech?? haha :D
tjl_vanguard 02-14-2007, 08:44 PM Cool down man, i know it is not a prediction, i just want to make this thread more entertaining :p, sorry if some of you feel :mad:...
actually i would really love to see hafiz wins cuz its about time he show something back to us as alot of "OUR" money have been invested directly or indirectly.... he can do it just tat he seems to be too inconsistent which is really frustrating for us to see.... but again seeing his performance recently, i think its quite irrelevant to say he'll come out champion...:)
Armotec500 02-14-2007, 09:29 PM actually i would really love to see hafiz wins cuz its about time he show something back to us as alot of "OUR" money have been invested directly or indirectly.... he can do it just tat he seems to be too inconsistent which is really frustrating for us to see.... but again seeing his performance recently, i think its quite irrelevant to say he'll come out champion...:)
Yeah sure, if based on his performance recently, i agree that it is quite impossible for Hafiz to win AE MS title this year but the same thing goes to LCW, eventhough he managed to be world no. 1 last time, he never win any major title yet and his performance currently also not good enough...Anyway, i am very glad if LCW can win AE this year :cool:
ixory 02-14-2007, 09:35 PM actually i would really love to see hafiz wins cuz its about time he show something back to us as alot of "OUR" money have been invested directly or indirectly.... he can do it just tat he seems to be too inconsistent which is really frustrating for us to see.... but again seeing his performance recently, i think its quite irrelevant to say he'll come out champion...:)
Agree with you, but nothing is impossible in badminton. Yoyo king could be AE king hehe.I predict in MS, Lin Dan could win the title.Seem, other player hard to beat him,except taufik had a same strenght as AG 2006.:D :D :D
Armotec500 02-14-2007, 09:56 PM Agree with you, but nothing is impossible in badminton. Yoyo king could be AE king hehe.I predict in MS, Lin Dan could win the title.Seem, other player hard to beat him,except taufik had a same strenght as AG 2006.:D :D :D
Agreed.Yoyo king could be AE 2007 MS Champion :D:D:D
Yeah, i think Lin Dan will almost likely to win the title unless TH/CJ/PG managed to play extremely good during the entire tournament :p
tjl_vanguard 02-14-2007, 10:31 PM Agreed.Yoyo king could be AE 2007 MS Champion :D:D:D
Yeah, i think Lin Dan will almost likely to win the title unless TH/CJ/PG managed to play extremely good during the entire tournament :p
still its hard to say.. LD beat TH in R32 MO '07 but lost to PSH in R16 which PSH after that lost to KJ in R8 in which KJ never beaten LD before... hmmm
funny :D
Armotec500 02-15-2007, 12:45 AM still its hard to say.. LD beat TH in R32 MO '07 but lost to PSH in R16 which PSH after that lost to KJ in R8 in which KJ never beaten LD before... hmmm
funny :D
Yes, funny thing could happen just like that...LD has higher chance to win if we consider the fact that he rarely failed to deliver :rolleyes:
Of course any player can still win the title if 'funny' thing start to happen to those STAR players :p
taufik-ist 02-15-2007, 01:59 AM thre will be surprising results,
unseeded players will be the champion:
MS: TH
MD: TBH/KKK
:)..he he
tjl_vanguard 02-15-2007, 02:05 AM Yes, funny thing could happen just like that...LD has higher chance to win if we consider the fact that he rarely failed to deliver :rolleyes:
Of course any player can still win the title if 'funny' thing start to happen to those STAR players :p
so, its better not to put too much hope on any players although how bright the chance u may think for them to win cuz if they don, u'll be so disappointed till u dunno who r u.. hahah stupid rite?? haha :D:D:D:D
Armotec500 02-15-2007, 02:05 AM thre will be surprising results,
unseeded players will be the champion:
MS: TH
MD: TBH/KKK
:)..he he
Hehehe i tend to agree with you :D...TH said that his focus now is AE 2007, maybe he really mean it :p
KKK/TBH absolutely one of a few favourite doubles to win AE 2007 title for sure ;)
tjl_vanguard 02-15-2007, 02:07 AM thre will be surprising results,
unseeded players will be the champion:
MS: TH
MD: TBH/KKK
:)..he he
i would just love to see that happen :)
tjl_vanguard 02-15-2007, 02:10 AM Hehehe i tend to agree with you :D...TH said that his focus now is AE 2007, maybe he really mean it :p
KKK/TBH absolutely one of a few favourite doubles to win AE 2007 title for sure ;)
i said that before din i?? im gonna sue u for stealing my words... :D
Armotec500 02-15-2007, 02:11 AM so, its better not to put too much hope on any players although how bright the chance u may think for them to win cuz if they don, u'll be so disappointed till u dunno who r u.. hahah stupid rite?? haha :D:D:D:D
Exactly, that's why i put my prediction on YoYo King Hafiz, at least i'll not dissapointed if he failed to deliver hehehe :D:D
If i put my hope on LCW and if he failed, i'm afraid i'll be really frustrated :p:p
Armotec500 02-15-2007, 02:13 AM i said that before din i?? im gonna sue u for stealing my words... :D
You already said that :eek::eek::eek:
Please, noooo, don't sue me :crying::crying::crying:
taufik-ist 02-15-2007, 02:14 AM Exactly, that's why i put my prediction on YoYo King Hafiz, at least i'll not dissapointed if he failed to deliver hehehe :D:D
If i put my hope on LCW and if he failed, i'm afraid i'll be really frustrated :p:p
nothing to lose to support Hafidz :D :p
Armotec500 02-15-2007, 02:16 AM nothing to lose to support Hafidz :D :p
Yes, exactly :D:D;)
jasonmarc 02-15-2007, 02:23 AM nothing to lose to support Hafidz :D :p
Yes, Every things to gain but nothings to lose.....if he compete in All England "Yo-Yo"championship......as he is so call "YO-YO King:D :D :D
soleha 02-15-2007, 02:36 AM thre will be surprising results,
unseeded players will be the champion:
MS: TH
MD: TBH/KKK
:)..he he
really hope this happen....:D :p :D but, the ms should be lcw...:D :D
Armotec500 02-15-2007, 02:56 AM really hope this happen....:D :p :D but, the ms should be lcw...:D :D
No, should be Hafiz :p:D:D
ixory 02-15-2007, 04:08 AM No, should be Hafiz :p:D:D
For men single i still predict TH and LD,Men Double is gonna be either KKK/TBH,TG/CW and JJS/LYD for me they are the dangerous pair right now,for WS i prefer Zhu Lin .If Hafiz win this AE,i'll stop call him YOYO King,but it failed next tournament,i will call him YOYO king,and so on..so on..bcoz i'm also a yoyo fan.:D :D :D :D :D :D .
Jessica 02-15-2007, 06:27 AM Well, i really lose faith in hafiz because whenever there are a competition,i hope to see he perform well and play with his real skill but he dissapointed us again and again.Actually,i am no doubt with his talent but he lose focus easily.Every time i saw he play, he can be either good in the beginning but i just do not know why he can't continue with it.However,i hope i can at least regain some faith in him this year, hope to see the hafiz who win in the All England last time.
coops241180 02-15-2007, 07:00 AM hmmm.. lets see..
MS - not a clue.. would guess either LD, PGC, TH or LCW while they are the top 4 i don't have a clue about form any more - not really been keeping up.
MD - ummm really not a clue - wouldn't be surprised to see CY / FH win, would be nice to see Clarke and Blair win tho...
WD - CHina
WS - China
XD - wide open as usual. ZB & GL are doing well, NR & GE are there usual inconsistent selves. Clarke and Kellog beat them in the nationals.. just so they've got to be up there too.. bound to be a pair from Indo and Malay as well..
fin..
Dimplex 02-15-2007, 07:47 AM goooooooo kkk & tbh!!!!!!!!! i believe in youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
the same goes for all the other malaysians...i will always support them in spite of the flack they recieve from the critics
indra 02-15-2007, 10:42 PM AE draws near. Taufik has made his promise to win the title. He has set his mind and focus in winning the championship. He will repeat what he did in the past. He has been training and preparing this event very seriously. He has been focusing on his physical fitness. He is ready and very confident at the moment. He is on the right track and creating new "tricks" and "illusions" to deceive his opponents, only to be shown and demonstrated in the final....
This year AE must be very interesting, perhaps will be the most competitive...
Li Yong Bo's statement in the paper a few days ago saying that Europe is the friendliest place for Chinese shuttlers will not become reality this time...especially for MS.
soleha 02-15-2007, 10:59 PM No, should be Hafiz :p:D:D
I think its better if both of them in the final....:D :p :D
I mean, all the Malaysian would not worry b'coz the champion surely from our country...:D :p :D :D
daniel2323 02-16-2007, 02:28 AM Hi all,, im newMember..nice 2 be ur friend here..
iM vote for taufik..and really want to see his backhand so badly :)
Krisna 02-18-2007, 10:51 AM Hi all,, im newMember..nice 2 be ur friend here..
iM vote for taufik..and really want to see his backhand so badly :)
Taufik does have a beautiful backhand... If you visit the Badminton Central forum discussion on professional players, they have a thread dedicated to Taufik's backhand... and they have recordings of his backhand's highlights. Wonderful stuff! :eek:
He can make Chen Hong and Peter Gade run all over the place in haste... and then finish the point with fantastic backhand shots... Not only smashes... but backhand drives and surprise backhand lobs too... Taufik's sense of timing and placement is just fantastic... :D
Warning, daniel2323, there are A LOT of Lee Chong Wei and Lin Dan die-hard-fans in Badminton Central. Heated debates and die-hard fanaticism in support of the respective star-of-choice are common... :)
I like Taufik, myself... His style is so beautiful. Never boring. The best Indonesian player ever! I think 2007 will be his All England year... :)
cesc fabrigas 02-18-2007, 11:06 AM i think taufik will win this years ae :D:D and doubles will go to the korean pairs
emmsfan 02-18-2007, 09:35 PM My predictions:
ms: Lin Dan, Chen Jin or Taufik
md: Fu-Cai aren't really that good, so I'll put my money on Jung-Lee, Eriksen-Lundgaard and Kido-Setiawan,though I won't mind if CCM-HTH make a breakthrough, unlikely, but I'm still hoping...........
ws: Definitely China, but hope Mew Choo can do well.
wd: Don't need to discuss
xd: Emms-Robertson, Laybourn-Juhl, KKK-WPT(hoping)
btw, Lee Hyun-Il left the national badminton team??:eek:
azabaz_ipoh 02-18-2007, 10:21 PM i have two section for this. the player i think will win and the player i want to win.
MS - Player i think will win = taufik hidayat
- Player i want to win = malaysian (either LCW or Hafiz, maybe even
surprise win Wong Choong Hann)
MD - Player i think will win = very tight race because all are on the same
same level and so this is the best group and most interesting match
that i would like to watch, but i think Tony-candra might be the best
bet
- Player i want to win = Koo Kien Keat and Tan Boon Heong (is it any
wonder?) :D
WS - Player i think will win = one of the chinese players
- Player i want to win = any underdog will do malaysian or otherwise
WD - the only match i have no interest in because the domination is too
obvious and thus what is the fun in that. so no prediction from me. no use i think.
XD - Player i think will win = the chinese top pair
- Player i want to win = the ones that struggles the most to get to the
final. yeah, underdogs but i guess it is not obvious cause any one could
win it.
that's it. may the ones i predict or the ones i want to win get the prize. good luck to all players. rock on!!!
kenny7_2006 02-19-2007, 01:37 AM My predictions...
MS - Lee Chong Wei
MD - Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong
the rest is obvious...
daniel2323 02-19-2007, 03:53 AM [quote=Krisna]
Warning, daniel2323, there are A LOT of Lee Chong Wei and Lin Dan die-hard-fans in Badminton Central. Heated debates and die-hard fanaticism in support of the respective star-of-choice are common... :)
Thx krisna for ur notice.. yeah I hv been read all many things here in this BC and so exited with all of controvercy esp. with th, ld,pg or lcw die hard fans.. so far Im just read, read and read it but now I think is good for me to join..
Taufik!! yeah I know it, in technically he hv it all perfectly,n I hv know good/bad taufik personality, don’t know why??I just think badminton is more colourfull by him (like what u said, fantastic &never boring!!) and of course not to forget his lovely encounter ld give it alive too..:D they bring-out drama in badminton life..we enjoy it right?? I will not oppose ld,pg,or lcw to be the best yup theyre great in this moderndays n I loved them2.. Im not surprise if ld win bcus I know his good, no matter whos the winner, whatever the result good/bad 4taufik I just want 2support him... and high respect for the other player who plays good.
Simply for taufik..??mmm..I think, I place no one above him.. !!is it okay?? :confused: :)
Krisna 02-19-2007, 04:40 AM Thx krisna for ur notice.. yeah I hv been read all many things here in this BC and so exited with all of controvercy esp. with th, ld,pg or lcw die hard fans.. so far Im just read, read and read it but now I think is good for me to join..
I think, I place no one above him.. !!is it okay?? :confused: :)
We are all entitled to our own opinion... :)
I just hope one of the Indonesian TV stations or Star Sports or ESPN will cover this year's All England... Any encounter between Taufik vs. Lin Dan/Chen Jin/LCW are great to watch...:D Last year, they showed Lili Natsir-Nova vs. Emms-Robertson on TV. Too bad our XD pair got trounced...:p Low TV ratings after that... Thus... I am now afraid that nobody wants to cover All England... :crying:
soleha 02-19-2007, 07:35 AM We are all entitled to our own opinion... :)
I just hope one of the Indonesian TV stations or Star Sports or ESPN will cover this year's All England... Any encounter between Taufik vs. Lin Dan/Chen Jin/LCW are great to watch...:D Last year, they showed Lili Natsir-Nova vs. Emms-Robertson on TV. Too bad our XD pair got trounced...:p Low TV ratings after that... Thus... I am now afraid that nobody wants to cover All England... :crying:
I hope so.. But I dont Think So..:crying: :crying: Coz usually they cover only the final match:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
Armotec500 02-19-2007, 10:27 PM Well, i really lose faith in hafiz because whenever there are a competition,i hope to see he perform well and play with his real skill but he dissapointed us again and again.Actually,i am no doubt with his talent but he lose focus easily.Every time i saw he play, he can be either good in the beginning but i just do not know why he can't continue with it.However,i hope i can at least regain some faith in him this year, hope to see the hafiz who win in the All England last time.
But i never lose faith in Hafiz :D:D:D
Come on Bro Hafiz, no guts no glory :p;)
pjswift 02-20-2007, 12:55 AM But i never lose faith in Hafiz :D:D:D
Come on Bro Hafiz, no guts no glory :p;)
It's good to know that you never lose faith in Hafiz. But don't deride LCW, ok? LCW is at least one class above Hafiz in play but he is just having some problem with form. Only LCW can sort out his own problems but I believe he is getting out of the woods now that the coach issue has been resolved.
However ,like you, I have faith in Hafiz. He has been trying very hard to perform. The fact that he reached SF in KO 07 (after crashing out 1st round in MO07 ) is proof. That's real progress and should be noted.
MAS has so much talent. What sink them is their management. Those guys just can't think CLEARLY.That's why they say MAS stands for : Mana Ada System; Mana Ada Strategi; Mana Ada Semangat. Take your pick.
Armotec500 02-20-2007, 02:45 AM It's good to know that you never lose faith in Hafiz. But don't deride LCW, ok? LCW is at least one class above Hafiz in play but he is just having some problem with form. Only LCW can sort out his own problems but I believe he is getting out of the woods now that the coach issue has been resolved.
However ,like you, I have faith in Hafiz. He has been trying very hard to perform. The fact that he reached SF in KO 07 (after crashing out 1st round in MO07 ) is proof. That's real progress and should be noted.
MAS has so much talent. What sink them is their management. Those guys just can't think CLEARLY.That's why they say MAS stands for : Mana Ada System; Mana Ada Strategi; Mana Ada Semangat. Take your pick.
Eventhough i am Hafiz supporter, i also hope LCW can do better this year...i admit that LCW currently one class above Hafiz and i really want Hafiz to improve himself at least to the same level with LCW ;)
Agreed, Hafiz has been trying very hard to perform and i have no doubt that he will reach his true capability soon...IMO, he is Yoyo King with a lot of potentials...
If Hafiz can win at least 2 or 3 SS Tournaments this year, i will be very happy...but if any MAS player (including LCW) can win any SS Tournament this year, i will be more happy :cool:
Jessica 02-20-2007, 02:51 AM Ya...me too...I shouldn't lose faith easily with our players...I believe that no matter LCW or hafiz, they have a lot of potential but maybe just because they can't let go certain pressure and due to this their performance are poor.Well, this is a new year for them and i really hope that they can forget all the bad things in the past and do well in the coming tournaments for themselves and also Malaysia.
Armotec500 02-20-2007, 03:21 AM Ya...me too...I shouldn't lose faith easily with our players...I believe that no matter LCW or hafiz, they have a lot of potential but maybe just because they can't let go certain pressure and due to this their performance are poor.Well, this is a new year for them and i really hope that they can forget all the bad things in the past and do well in the coming tournaments for themselves and also Malaysia.
Yeah, agree with you, we shouldn't lose faith easily to our players...
I have confidence that 2007 will bring more luck to Hafiz,LCW and other MAS players especially KKK/TBH :p:cool:
At the same time, i also would like to see badminton become one of the most popular sports in the world starting this year onward :)
Jessica 02-20-2007, 04:00 AM Yeah...May badminton rule this world...
PlayaFromMalaya 02-20-2007, 07:47 AM Ma' Predictions
MS QF
Lin Dan vs Taufik Hidayat 45%-55%
Peter Gade vs Bao Chunlai 65%-35%
Chen Yu vs Lee Chong Wei 60%-40%
Kenneth Jonassen vs Chen Jin 30%-70%
MD QuarterFinals
Cai Yun/Fu HaiFeng vs Hwang Ji Man/Lee Jae Jin 60%-40%
Lee Yong Dae/Jung Jae Sung vs Tony Gunawan/Chandra Wijaya 90%-10%
Makis Kido/Hendra Setiawan vs Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong 30%-70%
Anthony Clark/Robert Blair vs Jens Eriksen/Martin Lungaard Hansen 45%-55%
MS SemiFinals
Taufik Hidayat vs Peter Gade 60%-40%
Chen Yu vs Chen Jin 50%-50%
MD SemiFinals
Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng vs Lee Yong Dae/Jung Jae Sung 40%-60%
Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong vs Jens Eriksen/Martin Lungaard Hansen 55%-45%
MS Finals
Taufik Hidayat vs Chen Jin 99%-1%
MD Finals
Lee Yong Dae/Jung Jae Sung vs Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong 40%-60%
**KZ** 02-20-2007, 08:19 AM I disagree with some of playafrommalaya's prediction......well from what i have been seeing lately....Chen Yu vs LCW is 50-50......and KJ vs CJ 30-70?
should be 50-50 too.....and MD....there could be a meeting between CY/FHF and TBS/OSH......so it could go either way.....well....KKK/TBH has a bug chance to win the title this time no doubt bout tat
volcom 02-20-2007, 08:33 AM Mens's Singles:
Lin Dan, Peter Gade, Bao Chunlai, chen Jin or Lee Chong Wei
WD: CHN
WS: CHN
Others no idea.
haifeng4ever 02-20-2007, 08:55 AM MS Finals
Taufik Hidayat vs Chen Jin 99%-1%
Poor Chen Jin, he only stand 1% chance towards TH? This prediction is a little bit too "cruel" for CJ. He beat TH before in China Open. :(
PlayaFromMalaya 02-20-2007, 07:18 PM MS Finals
Taufik Hidayat vs Chen Jin 99%-1%
Poor Chen Jin, he only stand 1% chance towards TH? This prediction is a little bit too "cruel" for CJ. He beat TH before in China Open. :(
yep..if taufik reaches the finals,he will win the title for sure,since this is the only title missing from his "purse".:D Btw..im no taufik fan..
pramilainc 02-20-2007, 07:46 PM I think it's a bit ridiculous to predict QF outcome even before the qualifiers have started. If we have learnt one thing from previous SS tournaments, it is that upsets seems more likely to happen than before,
I wouldn't be surprised if half the line up dun even make it to the QF.
Jessica 02-20-2007, 08:01 PM Ya... i agree fully with you...From what i have learnt from the previous super series, i dare not to predict anything before the matches started because i started to realize that anything may happen and it is not predictable...So, we can just wait and see..All the best to the players.
pjswift 02-20-2007, 08:37 PM I think it's a bit ridiculous to predict QF outcome even before the qualifiers have started. If we have learnt one thing from previous SS tournaments, it is that upsets seems more likely to happen than before,
I wouldn't be surprised if half the line up dun even make it to the QF.
Nothing wrong with predictions.Predictions indicate perceptions of player status among fans. Eg. the player that's being elevated the most so far this year is CJ.The question is whether he has improved dramatically or whether his opponents' form have dropped dramatically.If it's mainly his opponents' problem, then CJ is overrated.
Another lesson learnt is that with the NSS, it's costly to underestimate your opponent. LD paid for writing off PSH who clearly had done his homework (Of course the unexpected, hostile MAS crowd catalysed his downfall.)Also ,with the new draw format, LD has to start working from 1st round where in the old, he effectively had to work for only three matches; now it's five.
With obvious exceptions, most predictions are based on logic. The first two SS suggest about 50% of the outcome will be illogical.
2cents 02-20-2007, 08:52 PM I think it's a bit ridiculous to predict QF outcome even before the qualifiers have started. If we have learnt one thing from previous SS tournaments, it is that upsets seems more likely to happen than before,
I wouldn't be surprised if half the line up dun even make it to the QF.
Ya... i agree fully with you...From what i have learnt from the previous super series, i dare not to predict anything before the matches started because i started to realize that anything may happen and it is not predictable...So, we can just wait and see..All the best to the players.
You are wrong!
In fact, the past taught us that it was Lin Dan who made it so predictable ! :D As long as Lin Dan was in, he would be the last winner. He grabbed most of titles he played for. It was, at least, so predictable.
2cents 02-20-2007, 09:05 PM ...,with the new draw format, LD has to start working from 1st round where in the old, he effectively had to work for only three matches; now it's five. .
Wrong. Lin Dan used to beat 6 in a row to win the title, now only need 5 wins.
I think you could mean 3 strong competitors before, but that's not true either. By limiting only 26 players in the main draw, it only becomes less competitive. Look at the all England draws, Wong CH, Simon, Qiu YB, Tommy, Poompat, Kuan BH, and 2 others are fighting for 1 spot in the main draw. It only makes the top 32 players much easier. Otherwise, according to your theory, who benefit the new draw format? The players ranked under 32?
I think Taufik should be the one benefit the most. He always has problems to play 6 matches in a row, reality check, he even not win 6 matches in a row to claim a title outside Indonesia. His stamina could not support him to play 6 matches.
It is purely zero-sum game. If you think Lin Dan suffering from the new system, then players like Wong CH, Simon, ..., have to play 8 matches in a row, 3 matches in a day benefit from the new system :rolleyes:
It will be hard for Taufik and LinDan to win this time around. But Taufik wanted to win this AE badly. He will be going to England early to prepare for the event.
2cents 02-20-2007, 10:39 PM You are right, ants. This time, at all England, both Lin Dan and Taufik get tough draws this time. This is just the accidents and coincidence, Not because the new system. Most main draw players get more chances than the 64 entries draw.
indra 02-21-2007, 12:02 AM [quote=PlayaFromMalaya]Ma' Predictions
MS QF
Lin Dan vs Taufik Hidayat 45%-55% (it should be 20:80)
MS SemiFinals
Taufik Hidayat vs Peter Gade 60%-40% It should 70:30)
MS Finals
Taufik Hidayat vs Chen Jin 99%-1% (it should be 90 :10)
Wow....good draw for TH:D
Ok.. Indra have his % for Taufik..
How bout Lindan vs Taufik for others?
Lindan vs PeterGade
Or Lindan vs LCW
or Taufik vs LCW in Finals?
cooler 02-21-2007, 12:40 AM [quote=PlayaFromMalaya]Ma' Predictions
MS QF
Lin Dan vs Taufik Hidayat 45%-55% (it should be 20:80)
Wow....good draw for TH:D
coz u would look better to be 6% (51-45%) wrong than what your heart really feel which will be 31% (51-20%) wrong, right?:p
Coincidently, Taufik Hidayat and Zhang Ning, Olympic Champions, have never won the AE.
Could it be a coincidence that they will both win this year? :rolleyes:
Maybe for TH, but for ZN, it may be more difficult as age has caught up with her and she has not been in good form towards the latter part of last year.
And in WS, China has the most entries - 6 in all to prevent others from taking the title.
ZN has slowed down abit. But never underestimate this woman. She is still dangerous.
OneToughBirdie 02-21-2007, 11:47 AM Coincidently, Taufik Hidayat and Zhang Ning, Olympic Champions, have never won the AE.
Could it be a coincidence that they will both win this year? :rolleyes:
Maybe for TH, but for ZN, it may be more difficult as age has caught up with her and she has not been in good form towards the latter part of last year.
And in WS, China has the most entries - 6 in all to prevent others from taking the title.
Winning AE07 would complete ZN's career. With 6 WS in 07AE, the chances of all-CHN SF line-up is favourable, and that would enable LYB to fix game so that ZN would win the elusive AE to close out her career.
2cents 02-21-2007, 11:55 AM Winning AE07 would complete ZN's career. With 6 WS in 07AE, the chances of all-CHN SF line-up is favourable, and that would enable LYB to fix game so that ZN would win the elusive AE to close out her career.
Well, no matter how many Chinese there in the draw, but there is none CHN player in the 3rd quarter. So it will be impossible to have an all CHN SF lineup.
Actually, there are even 3 CHN players in the 4th quarter where Zhang Ning is in, but none CHN in the 3rd quarter.
Joyous 02-21-2007, 08:36 PM I note with interest as well as disappointment the bold statements made by some BC members regarding fixing of matches by LYB. I am not a fan of LYB, neither am I anti-LYB. But I really find it strange that in almost every big tournaments, some of the BC members/fans can actually accuse him of fixing matches. And as proven many times, they were wrong at the outcome of the results. What next....any apologies...or respite for LYB???
azabaz_ipoh 02-21-2007, 09:26 PM MAS has so much talent. What sink them is their management. Those guys just can't think CLEARLY.That's why they say MAS stands for : Mana Ada System; Mana Ada Strategi; Mana Ada Semangat. Take your pick.
aye, sadly i fully agree with you. it is hard enough to find good players in malaysia. in fact the next generation, other than KKK and TBH, looks not up to par yet with the pros. i really dont want to agree but i have seen bad management of sports in malaysia. where politics plays a way too big role. we need to change the mindset of sports management in order to change the current stagnant trend in malaysia be it badminton or any other sport. badminton is one of malaysia better sport in terms of performance. please lets make people stop calling us Mana Ada Sistem, Mana Ada Strategi and Mana Ada Semangat. we could really use a revamp on all those, system strategy and spirit. in the end though, i still want one of those struggling malaysian to win AE. go malaysia! he he he
Yojimbo 02-23-2007, 11:06 AM I really want to see a LCW vs LD match.Really miss them playing against one another :D But...lets see how it goes.I wish I could go to Birmingham and watch the AE:crying:
Bombat 02-23-2007, 11:47 AM I never get bored to watch Taufik vs Lindan rematch..because it alwasy be a very intense match for me..And this tourney is on Taufik's list and he must be try his best to win and Lindan also never gives his rival to win easily..:crying::crying:can wait to see them..I don't know the match draw yet, do they will meet in final according the drawing or they will meet again in early round?
Yojimbo 02-23-2007, 12:09 PM I think Lin Dan and Taufik can meet in the QF.I really want Hafiz to make it through but it will be hard for him to beat Taufik.Btw, you can have a look at the AE draw here:http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40919&page=2
Baderz_Jas 02-26-2007, 03:06 AM why do you think TH will win?
I also picked him because if he really wants the AE Title, I think he can get it ;) :)
yannie 03-03-2007, 10:38 AM Singaporean players went Birmingham early this morning at 1 am.
sumbadder 03-03-2007, 02:09 PM personally, I think:
MS: LD/TH
WS: ZN/XXF
MD: FHF&CY/LYD&JJS
WD: ZJW&YW/HS&GL toss up. edge to gao and huang but I always root for yang wei and zhang jw to win. It's clear they can beat HS and GL but they always f-up somehwere along the way and throw the game.
XD: ZB&GL/GE&NR
I'd like to see XZB and ZYW finally win something since they're consistent QF & SF contenders; now they're seeded 2 and in the half opposite ZB and GL so they don't have to worry about getting knocked out by them. Prolly not gonna happen though....Other than that, results are probably gonna be pretty consistent with other tournaments, meaning lots of red in the end. And I agree that ZN has not been in very good form these last months. Either XXf is that much better now, or ZN is feeling her age.
black_knight006 03-03-2007, 03:32 PM I predict:
MS- LD or TH
WS- China
MD- No idea now :confused: Very even :p
WD- China
XD- ZB/GL :) They are a great pair!
Well I very closely agree with you...
MS - TH if he shows up:p , if not Lin Dan:mad: or Chen Jin:)
WS - XXF or other Chinese component:p
MD - Very even, possibly the Koreans:cool:
WD - China:rolleyes:
XD - N. Widianto/L. Natsir OR ZB/GL...sorry to say that I think my English faves of Robertson/Emms are a little past their time now. I don't think they will be winning many Super Sevens from now on.:(
Footwork 03-04-2007, 11:16 AM MS- Lin Dan or Taufik (if he's actually playing....)
WS- XXF. Although I watched Xu Huaiwen at the England vs Germany the other week and she looked strong.
MD- Really close at the moment, I'd probably give the edge to China
WD- No surprises, China
XD- ZB/GL....I'm really hoping that Robertson/Emms get to the final but I'm not sure if they'll beat the Chinese, and no-one has yet.... I'd like to see some Europeans in with a chance, Donna Kellogg and Anthony Clark seem to be playing well at the moment.
I'll be there screaming England on all the way!
Her bad days are still better than many players' good day. I don't think our Mew Choo can beat her on the above condition?
ZN has slowed down abit. But never underestimate this woman. She is still dangerous.
Simple, once you're a thief then you always a thief, that's how people perceive, true or not is different issue :D
I note with interest as well as disappointment the bold statements made by some BC members regarding fixing of matches by LYB. I am not a fan of LYB, neither am I anti-LYB. But I really find it strange that in almost every big tournaments, some of the BC members/fans can actually accuse him of fixing matches. And as proven many times, they were wrong at the outcome of the results. What next....any apologies...or respite for LYB???
I agree to certain extend that politics in Malaysia has some impact on badminton progress but that's normal to all countries. Badminton China also is very political so is PBSI but still you find champions producing by these nations ... I think the key is the talent, Malaysia just don't have enough even though we're so passionate in this sports. Winning can cure so many things ...
aye, sadly i fully agree with you. it is hard enough to find good players in malaysia. in fact the next generation, other than KKK and TBH, looks not up to par yet with the pros. i really dont want to agree but i have seen bad management of sports in malaysia. where politics plays a way too big role. we need to change the mindset of sports management in order to change the current stagnant trend in malaysia be it badminton or any other sport. badminton is one of malaysia better sport in terms of performance. please lets make people stop calling us Mana Ada Sistem, Mana Ada Strategi and Mana Ada Semangat. we could really use a revamp on all those, system strategy and spirit. in the end though, i still want one of those struggling malaysian to win AE. go malaysia! he he he
2cents 03-04-2007, 12:13 PM Why so many people bet on Taufik? He's never won all England, in fact, he has NEVER won any tournament in Europe!
I think Gade has a much bigger chance, great form and almost home court advantage. and Lin Dan is almost invincible for years...
Why so many people bet on Taufik? He's never won all England, in fact, he has NEVER won any tournament in Europe!
I think Gade has a much bigger chance, great form and almost home court advantage. and Lin Dan is almost invincible for years...
Hey, don't forget about Lee Chong Wei, there are "Malaysia Boleh" everywhere :D
2cents 03-04-2007, 12:24 PM Hey, don't forget about Lee Chong Wei, there are "Malaysia Boleh" everywhere :D
I am thinking about him all the time. Look my predictions:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=521260&postcount=2
pjswift 03-07-2007, 03:05 AM Simple, once you're a thief then you always a thief, that's how people perceive, true or not is different issue :D
Succinctly put!
TKG2609 03-07-2007, 04:33 AM i will support lindan ... but maybe lindan or peter gade will win this tournament ....
twobeer 03-07-2007, 05:18 PM i will support lindan ... but maybe lindan or peter gade will win this tournament ....
Probably not Gade :crying:
/Twobeer
haifeng4ever 03-07-2007, 05:56 PM Probably not Gade :crying:
/Twobeer
Can't believe PG lost in the first round.:eek: :eek: :eek:
super__gao 03-07-2007, 06:06 PM for MS semifinals i predict...
LD vs BCL
CJ vs LCW
or
LD vs BCL
CJ vs CY
OneToughBirdie 03-07-2007, 06:58 PM for MS semifinals i predict...
LD vs BCL
CJ vs LCW
or
LD vs BCL
CJ vs CY
Your prediction may come true, given CHN domination and with PG out, an all CHN SF is a possibility and that is sad for the sport to grow. In the oldies, we have Hendrawan, Frost, PG, Alan Budi, Ong Ewe Hock, Foo Kok Keong, etc to counter the CHN team...now aside from PG, LCW and TH, and with LHI retired, there is no new talents out there and CHN would dominate. Aside from those who cheer/worship team CHN and LD to win all the time, who really want to see all-CHN finals all the time..if it is free to watch, no problem, to pay to watch live with all other costs incurred, I don't think so...Does anyone really look forward to all CHN WS finalists everytime, just check out the young chicks from CHN e.g. WL, ZL, JYJ, LL, etc. and many more waiting in the wings, winning everything, is there any excitement.
Syaoran_Style 03-07-2007, 08:09 PM Why so many people bet on Taufik? He's never won all England, in fact, he has NEVER won any tournament in Europe!
I think Gade has a much bigger chance, great form and almost home court advantage. and Lin Dan is almost invincible for years...
Well .. I won't say NEVER .. don't forget he won the most biggest, prestigious tournament = the Olympics Games in Athens .. and Greece appears to be in Europe :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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