Broken 9K

[Tweak]

Gah... I just broke my NS9k yesterday during badminton: (sorry for the blurry pics, cell phone camera + slightly unsteady hand)

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Strung at 23 lbs a month ago I think with BG80, but I noticed a small crack near the place where it broke. I let my friends inspect it, and they said it was just the paint chipping. After that though, I had a few racket clashes, so I'm not sure what might've caused the break. I was shanking the shuttle a lot yesterday, and I guess the last one was too much for the racket to handle.

Do I have any hopes of reclaiming it on warranty or am I SOL? Thanks for your input xD

[killersmash]

-.-" so many ns 9k broken .. i think they will discontinue making ns 9k like they did armourtec 800 ( also not durable )

[foo.tw]

The shop I string my rackets hasn't recieved any broken NS9000 yet. IMO, the top area of NS9000 is very durable. My NS9000s have numerous paint chips but the graphit is still in perfect shape.( I use 26.5 lbs)

[Matt]

Jesus! that looks bad!

[DinkAlot]

-.-" so many ns 9k broken .. i think they will discontinue making ns 9k like they did armourtec 800 ( also not durable )

Disagree. I've strung quite a few 9000s up to 30x33lbs. and none of them have broken, even after some major clashing. So IMHO, the 9000 is very durable.

The 9000s I have seen broke, the string was suspect. I'm not saying it's always the stringer but in general, that's where a good start, especially a break like this. :eek: ...:p

[BrunoLi]

I broke one of mine 9k just after 3 months usage. (cracked in 1 and 8 o'clock)
I broke 2 of my 8k also. (crashed with partner's rackets)
I broke my AT-800 OF just in 1 week, crashed with my partner'r racket(but his racket was no damage)

[DinkAlot]

The shop I string my rackets hasn't recieved any broken NS9000 yet. IMO, the top area of NS9000 is very durable. My NS9000s have numerous paint chips but the graphit is still in perfect shape.( I use 26.5 lbs)

Agree and I believe you string at a good shop. :)

[Matt]

It's a possible case of the NS9K rebellion! they break if they do not like the user who is wielding it :p

[docruben7]

Disagree with you guys Nano9k type x is less durable than other yonex racquet. Mine suffered a chip off paint after a soft clash with a muscle power few months ago then a few weeks ago while doing some warm up hittings my racquet just broke. I am not a type of player who hit my racquet in the floor when i am mad nor do i throw my racquets in disgust. Yonex really need to come up with better material for their next high end racquets.

[twobeer]

Personally I've seen many NS800s,7000s and 9000s break down. And in proportion with the many old MP99s,MP100, AT700s etc lots of players here have. I feel that the breakage ratio of NS are far higher than the other models..

Maybe its just smart business, making them little more fragile sells more = increases profits (and also saves on how much "expensive" material has to be put into each unit)..

Maybe we could set-up a database where people report racket-model, brand, usage hours and lifetime & cause of death.. to compare different models/brands etc.

Kinda like http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/

:D

/Twobeer

[DinkAlot]

Personally I've seen many NS800s,7000s and 9000s break down.

The NS7000 and 8000 are far less durable than the 9000s.

[Jinky]

but for now there are more cases about NS9000 that broke down...

[CoolDoo6]

Gah... I just broke my NS9k yesterday during badminton

This could be a blessing in disguise. Now you have more reasons to buy the latest and the greatest AT900.

[Stealthboy]

You know all this has done is blunt my enthusiam for the NS9000, I was going to buy the X version. But now I'm thinking is it worth spending £120 0r $236 (US) on something that is going to break without giving me good value.

[azn_123]

Mann that's really bad compared to my cracked ns9k.

[Tweak]

It might be the stringer's fault, but I wasn't actually there to watch him string it. There aren't many stringing places where I live (like 4 professional places?), so it's hard to boycott the one I'm going to currently.


This could be a blessing in disguise. Now you have more reasons to buy the latest and the greatest AT900.

Haha, that's a possibility. Right now though, I'm sending it back to Tad's (where I bought it) to see if I can get a replacement from Yonex.

[chickenpoodle]

Do I have any hopes of reclaiming it on warranty or am I SOL? Thanks for your input xD
i doubt it. an entire month after it was strung did it break? theres little chance its stringer fault, otherwise it would of broke already.
the clashes must of just damaged it, and the shank finished it off.
many frame breaks occur this way. and clashes do occur usually on the upper part of the frame anyhow.

Jesus! that looks bad!

Mann that's really bad compared to my cracked ns9k.
hah, you guys make it sound like the racquet exploded or something.
its just a clean break, like any other clean break... its just that he didn't cut the strings so its starting to collapse on itself.

on a side note... now that its an oval rather than iso, it might perform better than before! ;)

[Matt]

I ment it looks bad because of those ridged sharp edges.

We should see how worse SirDinksAlot compares to ROFL!

[azn_123]

I ment it looks bad because of those ridged sharp edges.

We should see how worse SirDinksAlot compares to ROFL!

LOL I WOULD AGREE HAHAHA!!!:D

[killersmash]

because of this thread i had a nightmare that my ns 9k also broke -.-" i woke up close to tears !

[charzord]

I find that the breakages of 9000 are:





Proportional to How Many are Out There!

Thats right guys. there is no doubt that 7000 and 8000 are weaker than 9000. but the fact of the matter is, more 9000 are breaking due to the amount of 9000 in the hands of badminton players today. In my club, there are about 6 players using the 9000 as primary, and about 25 other unique rackets. It is only logica to say that the high amount of breakages is due to the high amount of rackets!

[twobeer]

Thats right guys. there is no doubt that 7000 and 8000 are weaker than 9000. but the fact of the matter is, more 9000 are breaking due to the amount of 9000 in the hands of badminton players today. In my club, there are about 6 players using the 9000 as primary, and about 25 other unique rackets. It is only logica to say that the high amount of breakages is due to the high amount of rackets!

Well, If you have, lets say 3 breakages among these 6 and 2 among the 25 "other"..i would be a tad worried..But a bigger sample would be needed for statistical relevant data..

/Twobeer

[foo.tw]

In my experience with my rackets, NS9000-X isn't the most durable one. But it is one of the durable rackets I have played.

[charzord]

Well, If you have, lets say 3 breakages among these 6 and 2 among the 25 "other"..i would be a tad worried..But a bigger sample would be needed for statistical relevant data..

/Twobeer

Its not suppose to be statistical. First of all, all the 6 rackets are healthy and smashing. So the assumption that 3 breaks is wrong in the first place. I'm positive that the breakage rate for 9000's is way less than 50%.

But as a general analysis, would you not agree that 9000's are the primary weapon of choice nowadays? I'm sure many would say so.

[azn_123]

Maybe just maybe yonex could have racquets that have a diamond structure->it's the strongest--but I don't know if it performances good or bad. Hmm..:D

[CoolDoo6]

But as a general analysis, would you not agree that 9000's are the primary weapon of choice nowadays?

Not where I am it isn't. Of the 100-150 different players I came across in the past 6 months, only 4 used the ns9k. 2 were beginners. 1 was probably using a fake. The remaining one was an old guy who thought the racket could help him. But it propably didn't cos his club was wipped 9-0 by my club in a league match.

I can't see Ns9k or the rest of the NS range being much of a weapon, and few people choose them.

[azn_123]

I personally really like the ns9k. It suits me well.

[twobeer]

Its not suppose to be statistical. First of all, all the 6 rackets are healthy and smashing. So the assumption that 3 breaks is wrong in the first place. I'm positive that the breakage rate for 9000's is way less than 50%.

But as a general analysis, would you not agree that 9000's are the primary weapon of choice nowadays? I'm sure many would say so.

50% breakage is pretty much imop :rolleyes:

I'm not sure what you mean by NS9000 being the "weapon of choice"??...

Currently neither Gade,Lin-Dan, Taufik, Jonassen, WCH, Chen Yu, Chen Hong, Hashim etc use it.. Lee Chong Wei used it and switched back from it , maybe he uses it to and from?? But It can hardly be called the "weapon of choice" in men singles today...

Its always the case you will see lots of people (especially at club-level) start using the latest "thing" (you will probably se a great number of those guys playing with an AT900 before summer :D ).. But Its really more interesting to see how many will be using it in a few years....

/Twobeer

[charzord]

By weapon of choice I mean it is the racket that is flying off shelves these days and into recreational players hands. First of all, pro's do not buy their rackets. If they break, they merely get a new one, Durability isn't an issue, and most of us common citizens won't even know that they broke it.

But it is in the clubs that we pay in where we see broken rackets. And guess what, because ns9000 are the most common nowadays, we see it broken the most. It really is proportional. You also have to look at the demographics of people that use 9000. Newbies tend to break their rackjets faster, as do people who string high tension on 9000's (which I find alot of people do).

The overarching factor in the high "appearances" of ns9000 breakages is still because of the amount of 9000's there are in the market. Forget about pro's, statistics and even how many players will use it in the near future. It is the present that 9000 is used the most, and thus, broken the most.

On the other hand, my 9000 has about 14 paint chips and is still ripping up the court :D

[azn_123]

By weapon of choice I mean it is the racket that is flying off shelves these days and into recreational players hands. First of all, pro's do not buy their rackets. If they break, they merely get a new one, Durability isn't an issue, and most of us common citizens won't even know that they broke it.

But it is in the clubs that we pay in where we see broken rackets. And guess what, because ns9000 are the most common nowadays, we see it broken the most. It really is proportional. You also have to look at the demographics of people that use 9000. Newbies tend to break their rackjets faster, as do people who string high tension on 9000's (which I find alot of people do).

The overarching factor in the high "appearances" of ns9000 breakages is still because of the amount of 9000's there are in the market. Forget about pro's, statistics and even how many players will use it in the near future. It is the present that 9000 is used the most, and thus, broken the most.

On the other hand, my 9000 has about 14 paint chips and is still ripping up the court :D

Nice!!--make sure you take good care of your ns9k!:D

[twobeer]

By weapon of choice I mean it is the racket that is flying off shelves these days and into recreational players hands. First of all, pro's do not buy their rackets. If they break, they merely get a new one, Durability isn't an issue, and most of us common citizens won't even know that they broke it.

But it is in the clubs that we pay in where we see broken rackets. And guess what, because ns9000 are the most common nowadays, we see it broken the most. It really is proportional. You also have to look at the demographics of people that use 9000. Newbies tend to break their rackjets faster, as do people who string high tension on 9000's (which I find alot of people do).

The overarching factor in the high "appearances" of ns9000 breakages is still because of the amount of 9000's there are in the market. Forget about pro's, statistics and even how many players will use it in the near future. It is the present that 9000 is used the most, and thus, broken the most.

On the other hand, my 9000 has about 14 paint chips and is still ripping up the court :D

Just be happy that you like your racket, and that it doesnt breaK :D .. I think many people (especially recreational players) just buy the "latest" Yonex.. thinking they wont go wrong.. Thats what a good brand-name does :D .. These are usually the same type of players that comes home from vacation showing me their New NS10000 they bought in Thailand or China.. Swearing its a Genueine and New Yonex :D :D :D

/Twobeer

[foo.tw]

50% breakage is pretty much imop :rolleyes:

I'm not sure what you mean by NS9000 being the "weapon of choice"??...

Currently neither Gade,Lin-Dan, Taufik, Jonassen, WCH, Chen Yu, Chen Hong, Hashim etc use it.. Lee Chong Wei used it and switched back from it , maybe he uses it to and from?? But It can hardly be called the "weapon of choice" in men singles today...

Its always the case you will see lots of people (especially at club-level) start using the latest "thing" (you will probably se a great number of those guys playing with an AT900 before summer :D ).. But Its really more interesting to see how many will be using it in a few years....

/Twobeer

Are you suggesting us to play against Lin-Dan, etc ?
I think 99.99% of us can't even reach the standard of Top-End women single.
What top female players use is a better reference for us.
Rackets used in different games also have different consideration.
AT700 Used in MS the most ?
So, how about MD, WS , WD , XD ? Aren't these players humans ?
I don't think using Pro MS as a quideline is justified.

[foo.tw]

I don't really know why some people would think it's not as durable while Dinkalot thinks it is.

[azn_123]

Try going to tad's--I just went today MY NS9K GOT REPLACED!!! I'M SO HAPPY!!

[Matt]

Try going to tad's--I just went today MY NS9K GOT REPLACED!!! I'M SO HAPPY!!

Nice! Good thing they take care of their customers!

[DinkAlot]

I don't really know why some people would think it's not as durable while Dinkalot thinks it is.


I string, test and experience lots of rackets, a variety of brands. After do this for a while, I start to figure out what rackets are stronger, what are weaker.

From my experience, the 9000 is definitely one of the strongest rackets currently made; especially for a Yonex.

[charzord]

Are you suggesting us to play against Lin-Dan, etc ?
I think 99.99% of us can't even reach the standard of Top-End women single.
What top female players use is a better reference for us.
Rackets used in different games also have different consideration.
AT700 Used in MS the most ?
So, how about MD, WS , WD , XD ? Aren't these players humans ?
I don't think using Pro MS as a quideline is justified.

Chill dude.....twobeer was giving an example.

[SmashHappy]

Chill dude.....twobeer was giving an example.


this is what happens when badminton takes over people's lives lolz :rolleyes:

[twobeer]

this is what happens when badminton takes over people's lives lolz :rolleyes:

hehe, would be nice if everyone was so emotionally attached to our beloved game :D :D

/T

[harmono]

I broke one of mine 9k just after 3 months usage. (cracked in 1 and 8 o'clock)
I broke 2 of my 8k also. (crashed with partner's rackets)
I broke my AT-800 OF just in 1 week, crashed with my partner'r racket(but his racket was no damage)

Depending on your job, I think you need to start playing doubles with a cheaper racket.

[azn_123]

Depending on your job, I think you need to start playing doubles with a cheaper racket.

Uhh that doesn't help-cheap racquets=cheap quality=more breakages.

[Matt]

Uhh that doesn't help-cheap racquets=cheap quality=more breakages.

Not if it's aluminum! =P

[sifuyono]

I string, test and experience lots of rackets, a variety of brands. After do this for a while, I start to figure out what rackets are stronger, what are weaker.

From my experience, the 9000 is definitely one of the strongest rackets currently made; especially for a Yonex.
Agree...
Mine already clash so many time, still okay.
Except there's a lot of paint chips everywhere

[azn_123]

Agree...
Mine already clash so many time, still okay.
Except there's a lot of paint chips everywhere

LOL mine has no paint chips=brand new-care to take a pic of your ns9k=chipped one?

[chickenpoodle]

Depending on your job, I think you need to start playing doubles with a cheaper racket.
cheaper racquets? why? i think he just has to stop clashing racquets... :rolleyes:

[BUnstable]

I think there is a major factor that might be the reason for the many broken Nanospeed 9000. It is maybe due to the fact that the stringing pattern for the NS9K series is different than the other Yonex model.

If you go on their website and look at the stringing instructions, you'll see that the only high end racquet that uses a different stringing pattern is the Nanospeed 9000.

An experience person may be the cause as they are used to stringing so they don't really need to check out how to string racquets. They'll use the most common way to do it.

It'll somehow impress me if the person didn't do his research before to check out how to string the type of racquet.

[daversatile]

Personally from my experience with my love for NS9000X, it is highly durable.
This being said due to a few clashes I had at full swing impact and it took quote a beating before it finally gave in when I was partnering someone whom had steep and fast smashes.

Overall, I would still go back to the NS9000X eventhough it gave way.

I've moved down the ladder as I got a bargain for a NS8K and it just wasn't the same at all for attacking players. Don't even want to go to my back up AT800P.